 Today we're gonna talk about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard and the court case they've got going on. Maybe you've heard of it Greg won't tell us about the videos you found. Yeah So this is video from two to three days of testimony by Johnny Depp You'll see direct and you'll see some cross and you'll be able to tell the difference fairly easily We'll also see some clips where we cut away to Amber Heard when he's talking and we'll see somewhere They're listening to videos and that kind of thing just buckle up And how did you respond to miss heard? I just told her those are not my intentions you know and at a certain point You don't know what to do. I mean it's The person is telling you she's telling you you don't trust me. You don't trust me. You don't trust me and I Can't speak about legal documents. I can't speak legally's I can't explain to her these things all I could do was Try to calm her down and say that I was not out to Screw her over or or put her in a position that was was uncomfortable Restock normal things to do it did not work. No it escalated and escalated and turned into Madness Mark what do you got? Yeah, okay? So look there's been a lot of talk about the whole speed the drool that he's got where he looks So let me just kind of run through where these behaviors I think come from and why they're the baseline for him and why we've seen this kind of behavior Throughout his career so we get a sense of the baseline. Okay. I think they're in his accent We've got John Lennon there one of his heroes clearly It's down. It's deep and then you've got Hunter S. Thompson as well this look down to the side this search For the right word and also the madness and chaos that comes with that So you got a kind of a warrior poet of John Lennon there You've got the madness and the chaos of Hunter S. Thompson who go and watch him speak always looking down to the sides Always carefully choosing his words and then you've got Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones again Kind of the spiritual father of Johnny Depp again, you'll see him looking down Searching for the right words searching for the poetry and that kind of low key to call for school Absolutely rock and roll Mentality I think these are the three characters that we've got here Showing up for Johnny Depp. We'll see some others as we go along which are you know other kind of entities that he's performed and Played but just like any other human being on the planet Johnny Depp is made up of Of the stars in his life He's made up of the people that he's looked to and gone. That's a behavior I should copy that would be a great way to be whether it's choosing lyrical words and being poetic Whether it's choosing madness and chaos or whether it's choosing the search for the right Words the search for the poetry and the rock and roll lifestyle that goes along with that We'll also along with that you've got that animated face Which is clearly his experience with Tim Burton which is and then Disney, you know full of Animation in the face and not so much until later on in his storytelling. We see the animation in the in the hands That's all I'm going to show you on on that Scott. What do you think? All right Well, I think this is what we're seeing is a hardcore introvert who's communicating the best way he can and It's from coming from from always being locked down and being quiet especially from when he was a kid I don't know a whole lot about him when there's a child but I know he had a rough time it was one of those situations that that sort of made him an introvert and He's trying as hard as he can to communicate. So that's why he speaks slowly He's always done that from what I've seen because he's making sure what he's get is Structure for his senses are correct before delivers So he's an embarrassed or nobody puts him on the spot and those kind of things So when he's being put in a position where it's in court somewhere. It's really important every word you say He's really watching what he says in his structure of the senses. I think he's wide open I don't think he's hiding anything at this point and But at the same time and Greg and I've talked about this as well I think he's speaking almost through a persona or a character at this point because we're there are a couple of spots Where we see the real Johnny Depp in here, but I don't think this is really him I think like you're talking about Mark where he's using these all these influences are coming through I think those are heightened to make this persona that we as the people who go to his movies and our fans and so We expect to see of him and expect him to see him and hear him act that way. So I think He's working his way through this through a persona As far as that goes Greg, what do you got? Yeah, if you were to just say the word Depp everybody on earth Unless they have never been around some kind of media would know who he is and he's a singularity Everybody knows who he is can't hide anywhere and he has a product that he sells and that product is a very well crafted product Whether it's intentional or something that's happened over these decades mark I'll add one to your to your icons Marlon Brando this Talking Marlon Brando. Yeah, and then enunciating. It's a beautiful example of him and you can see it I sent Scott a link and said look you can't miss this But even if he's got a carefully crafted personas, so what that's what we all do We all have an image that we portray to other people and that image may or may not be exactly how we think inside I will tell you that I watched him enough to see baseline and I watched nine hours of this So just to give you an idea but watching him for baseline. He is he does the searching for change move He's a down accessing guy when he's thinking and when he's thinking he may stutter and stammer go No, but he won't stutter stammer and then make hard eye contact and then make the gesture Whatever it is either no or yes as he's talking to you So pretty easy to follow. He has that long slow draw and I think like you said it's from there I also want to say one thing guys We all have opinions about this based on all of our experiences and that's what we're telling you We're not reading the guy's mind. We're not trying to in the beginning of this. He starts with a lip compression Let's talk for just a second about what he's talking about here. He's starting off by saying he missed his He starting off by talking about he was trying to calm his wife down because her his lawyers had asked her to sign Post-nup and he was trying to explain to her. It wasn't personal and that kind of thing But he couldn't does his body language say that yeah overall it does you see he does this whole thing where he says I did what I could he starts with a lip compression. He does some emotional accessing that down right He his shoulders rise in helplessness His inner brow tips rise in sorrow his head shakes. No that all looks good It all says the same thing everything's in unison Without tried but I can't and those are pretty much the kind of things We would do when we're faced with that kind of situation where we can't do anything about it And then you see his face where he's talking about did it work? No, that's disbelief. It didn't work So we see all of that. Does that mean that he is being honest? I think he's being honest It looks like it from here, but he's a hell of an actor to chase. What do you got? I Agree with you guys a lot of what we're seeing here is What Jim Rohn is famous for saying you're the cumulative average of the people that you either idolize or spend time with and Right here when he says at a certain point, you don't know what to do He's he goes from talking about himself to using the word you which is an IU shift We'll talk a little bit more about the future But he's socializing this issue and I think it's unconscious behavior it's not a conscious thing and we want to do this when we want people to identify with an experience and And socializing by itself is never really deceptive per se But it can be part of a bigger cluster, which I'm not seeing any other things here to look for in a cluster There's a micro facial expression of contempt I think at that when he says the idea of screwing her over and I think there is a little bit of contempt right there I think he feels contemptuous about doing that And then the second time something escalated he raises his chin like this And this is what we do to challenge or show somebody that we're not afraid. It's just this escalated So I think he's present in the moment or in that memory and he's he's reliving that and you see his body Narrating the story for us, which we're gonna see a whole lot of here coming up But everything's truthful here And as you watch these depositions and any deposition keep in mind There's a difference between being coaster prepared for questioning and being deceptive about facts and memory So being coached or prepared does not mean that you're lying And how did you respond to miss her? I just told her those are not my intentions you know and at a certain point You don't know what to do. I mean it's a The person is telling you she's telling you you don't trust me. You don't trust me. You don't trust me and I Can't speak About legal documents. I can't speak legally's I can't explain to her these things. All I could do was Try to calm her down and say that I was not out to Screw her over or or put her in a position that was was uncomfortable Restock There's normal things to do It did not work. No, it escalated and escalated and turned into Madness care and I was I was a mess. I was a wreck. I was Shaking and I just didn't understand why All this was happening. So I Went behind the bar. I Grabbed a bottle of vodka that was there and a shot glass and Sat at the bar. She was nowhere around and I poured myself two or three stiff shots of of the vodka first taste of alcohol that had in a long time and Then she came down To the bar and found me there And of course started screaming. Oh, you're drinking again and the monster and all that Says she reached she she she walked up to me and reached and grabbed the the bottle of vodka and Then just kind of stood back and then hurled it at me and and it it It just went Right past my head and smashed behind me Hi, Greg. What do you got? Yeah, so I'm gonna start off by talking about him doing a little bit of emotional accessing looking down right and somebody's gonna say Well, there's a monitor there. Yeah, there is but he's not looking at that monitor if you look at his eyes You can see he's internal. He's not looking at the monitor. I had this the other day So I said well, there's a monitor there. Yeah, but he's not looking at it He's looking down right and he's thinking he's doing emotional eye accessing and then he goes to this thing I was talking about where he does a head shake his brow illustration at nowhere around as he's doing internal conversation As he gets upset and more he draws his lips back a little bit It's a little tough to tell with facial hair But you see him draws lips back as if he's needing some kind of reinforcement there And then he goes to his baseline of counting change or searching for change He's looking down left down right down left down right and then when he said she came down He makes solid eye contact with his brow up and that confirming nod. We're seeing his baseline here So if his baseline is here Highly likely and I'm not talking about his baseline for just everyday conversation I'm talking about interviews everywhere you see him. If you go watch 10 interviews That's what you'll see as a baseline. He does show some residual emotion or Acting whatever you want to call it out the action that she said with disgust and you're the monster You'll regret using that word monster at a later point in these interviews or in these questioning but he shows then some Prohension and when he talks about the bottle smashing behind him as his lips narrow and is And his nostrils flare, but through this whole thing. He's got a low blink rate and low respiration Good indicator. He's not feeling a whole lot of stress here chase. What do you got? Yeah, right at that right at that exact moment. He's quoting her Saying you're drinking again. He shows disgust on his face like what he was seeing through her So his narration doesn't only go to him. He's narrating what was on her face And when he's talking about this monster, Greg, I think I agree with you His eyes are closed with this head shaking movement And I think it's something he actually doesn't want to recall and he doesn't want to bring this topic up but I think he's trying to lay it all out and We'll talk more about this little pattern and what this behavioral pattern actually means in a minute But this monster is a familiar theme to both him and her apparently. I think it likely revolves around this drinking Or drugs and I think it also suggests there's a strong dissociative capacity for depth a lot of actors, especially the A-list actors have a dissociative capacity to play these roles especially some of these ones that are really hard to do and This dissociative capacity doesn't leave their body when they walk off set in Hollywood It's a right when he says she walked up to me grab the bottle He goes back to edit a couple of details right there But this is truthful in adding relevance and recollection because this movement And uncertainty about her approach was relevant to him. He wasn't sure what was going to go on And He shows body narration in here the same way he showed us discussed on his face And when he said his right past my head smashed behind me He orients himself spatially before recalling the movement of the bottle This is a perfect example of truth telling according to me anyway A story would have had would have details that depth didn't witness it smashed on the wall behind me He didn't say the wall. He just said it smashed behind me There's little things like that that helped us to understand and comprehend or really see in here He's recalling the bottle smashing behind him not the third person view that most people would default to like a movie camera or something like that And if you watch his deposition from way back It's the exact same hand gesture the exact same hand gesture that bottle flying pests. It's all I got mark. What do you got? Yeah, so I would agree. So, uh, Greg he's he's not looking down at the monitor there if he was you would see micro movements with his eyes as he tracks stuff He's not in my view. I agree with you. He's looking into the vision Uh of the feeling that he had when I say vision I mean that in that he is in that emotional world He's and and you'll see him time and time again First of all get into the emotion and then he'll start describing it and choosing the right words Because like many many good actors out there He wants to get hold of the feeling first of all Before he starts creating the words and the and the poetry around it. So totally agree there Uh, yeah chase absolutely agree. Um discussed On a drink again, which is I think he's acting out what misheard was experiencing or projecting to him Yeah disdain On the monster. I I agree the monster is is the word that they both use For my guess is the addiction or the pain behind the addiction or the hunger For the for the alcohol or the drugs that comes with that Abyss that that Johnny is trying to fill with with alcohol or drugs at certain times What's interesting for me is he plays to the jury good actor Plays the hot spot of the scene to the jury those stiff drinks and turns to the jury Doesn't shy away from that doesn't shade because he knows that's the thing that the audience are going to be interested in And also if he displays That if he's open with that then they're more likely to feel like he's being open with everything If he's open with the antisocial stuff Then they're more likely to see him as being honest and truthful I think that's a fair fair bet and that's an actor's bet as well If you are open to the audience about what is the worst stuff They will join you on that journey if you hide away the worst stuff They just go why do we buy a ticket for this? This is rubbish. You know, this is just like watching my aunt or my uncle You know, it's just boring So now what's interesting though I think is he holds back on that throw like he literally stops it It doesn't follow through and he doesn't follow through with the emotion that that my guess is he could play Which amber heard would have my guess is he does that because he knows when to hold back Because if he goes for one of his swing for the fences barnstorming character performances of the anger of throwing a vodka bottle It's going to be a massive spectacle. It's going to be a Johnny Depp character performance Rather than what we're getting here, which is the Johnny Depp Um, uh, kind of react to the circumstance in a subtle and gentle Filmic way rather than the the disney animation way and I'll talk more later on about his swing for the fences performances And that style of acting and the style that you're seeing from him right now Scott, what do you got on this one? All right, I agree with you completely. That's that's that's a great almost summing up the whole thing Really when you think about it, but compared to his entire testimony up to this point This is his most use of illustrators. He uses them more than up to this point We see some other places where he gets a bit a bit more animated as well Then as he looks straight ahead, he's recalling what happened in that step by step step structure Like I was talking about earlier everything has to be he has to be sure everything is where it should be As he's telling the story because every word is important The head checking I agree with the Greg that's he's trying to get that scene out of his head. I think Um, so that's why we see that quick little head shake. It's part of his inner dialogue going on in that scene He's he doesn't agree with that. So he's trying to get nothing. He doesn't agree with it But it was tough on him. So I think he's trying to get rid of it. It's it's fairly graphic And he doesn't have a problem staying calm or getting excited getting all angry even though He's talking about something where he was really mad. He got really mad after it Because he's falling back on that persona I think that's almost a comfort zone for him to jump back in and go forward when you train People in to when you train witnesses or you train someone going to going to go into a deposition Quite often you'll say What you want to do is you want to be you and you want to look as honest as you possibly can however To be able to follow back on that you're almost a different person telling this So see yourself almost in a third person as you're telling this story as you're telling these things So they don't get to your when they start attacking you it doesn't come at you you can Um reply from that Persona I usually say character But that persona that you have there that's what I I think we're seeing there. Are we good? Yeah, I would add one last thing all four of us have a persona here This is not a hundred percent of who we are guys. This is I think you pointed out all time We were living people before we got on this channel So there's a lot more to us than what you see here same thing with this guy And uh, I was um, I was a mess. I was a wreck. I was Shaking and I just didn't understand why all this was happening so I went behind the bar I grabbed a bottle of vodka that was there and a shot glass And sat at the bar. She was nowhere around and I poured myself two or three stiff shots of of the vodka first taste of alcohol that had in a long time and um Then she came down To the bar and found me there And of course started screaming. Oh, you're drinking again. Yeah the monster and all that So she reached she she she walked up to me and reached and grabbed the The bottle of vodka And then just uh kind of stood back and then Hurled it at me And and it it uh It just went Right past my head and smashed behind me so I stood up And I walked behind the bar And there was a larger bottle of vodka the kind with the handle, you know On it I grabbed that and I went and I sat in my seat again I opened the bottle and I poured myself a shot and drank it Miss Herd was flinging insults uh left right and center and She then grabbed that bottle and uh And threw that at me um And the way that the The way that the bar was situated And where Miss Herd was So if if If if I could show you so if The bar the bottles If this was the bar and I'm sitting here like this, she would grab the bottle and she would go There she went there And so I Was leaning like this in the chair Looking at her first bottle went Then got the other bottle shot Takes the second bottle which was the larger one I'm in this position again and my my hand is on the edge of the The bar like like that and leaning over the fingers like that and uh She threw the large bottle And it Made contact And shattered Uh Everywhere I honestly didn't I didn't feel the pain At first at all. I felt no pain whatsoever What I felt was um I felt heat I felt heat and I felt Um as if something were dripping down my hand, you know um and then I looked down and realized that the The tip of my finger had been severed and uh I was looking directly at My bones. All right, chase. What do you got? There's a couple things here when he says I stood up There's an eyebrow flash socializing innocence. So he's socializing innocence here And he's saying misheard was flinging these insults. There's this Hand motion using his left hand there. It's a great narration there And I think amber's also in that direction from him in the courtroom and then there's Eye closure right when he says that and I think this is the sincerity of the impact and he's trying not to absorb the insults in his memory Then he looks the opposite direction away from her His eyes drop down into this emotional recall position This kind of down here when we move our eyes down there, we're most likely to be feeling some kind of emotion We're processing it But he's comfortable using his body narration So he's showing us the story with his body So when you see this and someone's using lots of this body narration or illustration when they talk watch for it to stop Or become absent and that's a key point in the conversation. Either it's a great one Or it might be a red flag But he's using the the same gesture Uh that we've seen in the vodka bottle thing But in amber, especially there's an increase in blink rate breathing into her chest instead of her abdomen, which indicates some stress There's an emotionless cold analysis of his movement just kind of like a head tilt Like a like a terminator would would survey somebody maybe But dep is using more telling than showing which is uncharacteristic of him And this is when we use words like realized noticed saw during storytelling It's not indicative of deception on its own, but it can indicate that he's now recalling the event in third person So it called these are called phrases of realization and discernment if you ever want to look this up But it's not ever necessary in storytelling unless the pov has not been established So he shifted a pov here is what we're really seeing here And finally, here's a pattern that is maybe Gonna shock you as we start moving forward right when he says i'm looking at my bone He starts smiling And a lot of us are saying well, you know, some people smile when they're nervous or smile during the climax of a story But you're gonna see some other times that he smiles and i want to show you the pattern of that As it starts getting a little bit closer to it scott. What do you got? All right, I agree with you completely and I think that uh, yeah, some of those Some of those I didn't think about But these are the illustrators we're seeing a little bit more They're they're they're not illustrators or more of of demonstrative gestures. Like you were saying chase. What's the term you always use? Narration Yeah I had gesture narration or something like that because of body narration, right? Okay, all right. Anyway, so I call them demonstrative gestures same thing I guess so the lip licking and the lip biting those are his adapters because this is getting a little bit hairy for him And his eyes are darting around thinking again about the structure of the descriptions He's given getting ready to to deliver so he's he's preparing those Now when we look at amber, she's showing no grief muscle She doesn't have any movement in her chin boss Her eyes are a little bit narrowed but but not a whole lot, you know, not going on But if you look at it looks like she's been crying So her eyes look a little bit puffy. I don't know if she has or not. Is this what it looks like to me But if you'll notice one eyebrow is a little shorter than the other is a little bit lower down the other one And that isn't that's no expression going on there. That's her normal That's the way she normally looks quite often even mine are your ears probably aren't even your nostrils probably aren't even Your eyes probably aren't even that's with most people So when you see something like that people think oh, she's thinking whatever the whole time. No, that's that's fairly normal um, because most everything on your face isn't Even kind of equal size and you're right chase her breathing Is a little bit high as is her clustered blink rate Because she speeds up a little bit and she slows down stops Then she'll get one or two then start going fast again almost a flutter But we see some flutter clusters here in just a little while Mark what do you got? Yeah, I love the idea of flinging insults and the action like you were saying chase that goes with that because flinging It's aggressive and careless at the same time. So it frames heard as both aggressive and careless around that It's also quite a primal idea flinging stuff and and we'll get this idea of kind of uh, primal bodily secretions and and being left and put in all kinds of places It's very kind of the idea of flinging something. It's very antisocial and this antisocial behavior will will You know rank up over time build up over time. We get a little stroke of the eyelid here Which I would say is self soothing After he says shattered everywhere and we get that piece of body narration there Of course, he's a great, you know, shall we say mime? He's very good at placing things accurately and setting the scene Physically and visually for any audience. Well, of course any really good modern actor Has to be able to do that because on a modern film set Most everything in the film you don't have around you anymore. It's green screen. There's green everywhere The props aren't there. They're going to be animated in there later on So the ability of an actor to be able to pretend and act that something is there And hit that mark again and again and again and again That's why they're often very very valuable actors Not only can they get the story out and the emotion and the barnstorming performance But they can hit more than their mark. They can create other things in the space. So great example of that Now let's let's talk about this flinging that we're going to see later on and this idea of him being able to What is this battle going on really about the idea of drinking and the territory of drinking and we will see this over time of of, you know The alcohol is bad, but he goes to get another drink that is territorial aggressive aggressive She then picks up a bottle throws it at him. That's Territorially aggressive and we'll see that whole thing build over time. So what I wanted what interests me about this is What is the power going on here? That's the question that I start to ask What is the power going on here? What is the power that's one person wants that the other isn't giving? I don't have kind of answers to that but clearly there's a gap that the alcohol is filling there and that gap Amberhead does not want filled by the alcohol. She wants control of that gap Maybe she thinks she should be filling that gap. It's a possibility. That's all speculation Scott, what do you got on this one? I already went. Are you already? I called on you here. Greg. What do you got? Yeah, all the same stuff with maybe a couple of minor differences One of the things I'd point out is good actors are not acting at every moment What I mean by that mark you can address it even more Is the person doesn't have to think about how does my face move at this time? They take on a persona and they change the way they move Collectively and so I think we see some of that in his public persona that is well rehearsed I'm not saying that that's acting. I'm just saying that well rehearsed persona has the same cadence consistently He does that searching for change baseline that down left down right Internalizing conversation a lot of introverts do that I run to them and into them in business all the time Or they'll look down and look right and look down. It's just a way that some people do I also always say the organism does what made the organism successful He's a great storyteller. He storytells with his body jack sparrow all that stuff He storytells with his body so he knows how to storytell now that could be a true story or made up story. It doesn't matter Let's chase. I had the left hand negative stuff all over again as well Here's an interesting one last time we covered roundsburg and we said He had this mantra and when he edited and he got in a bind he was saying Steering wheel dash those kinds of things he edits and says bottle second thrown without affecting the integrity of the story which makes you think the story is probably true It's easy for him to jump through the story easily easily and to get those details I agree do mark. That's a self soothing move as he's thinking about where this goes But he goes back to his baseline and he starts to do that running through and looking and telling And when he hits that Looking at the bone. He freezes There's a freeze in his movement all together And his face kind of elongates and his vowel about bone elongates when he says it But his blink rate is normal his breathing is normal. You can see Concerned in his brow when he says he felt something And then one of the things chase and I think this is related to what you're talking about with point of view Of the story changing If today I got my finger cut off all the bs that led up to it would be dramatic and all that but suddenly Oh, that doesn't matter. It's this finger. It's just this finger that matters We would expect a person who made it up to say and then she went on and on and on But no he goes I almost went into an emotional breakdown and and and it all becomes about him That's congruent a couple of things about amber herd Way back when I started doing body language a thousand years ago We talked about color and about the impact of color on human eyes and that kind of thing One of the things that used to be a maxim is if a woman wants to appear to be innocent in front of a court Where yellow interesting choice of colors She does have a little bit of a chin thing going but it's not vibration of the chin boss god I agree with you. There's no movement there. It's just kind of pursed her lips are narrow in disapproval And her or her mouth is narrow and that right eye I was going to point out the same thing one of her eyes is more broad than the other But it's not a change. It's consistent when you see changes when you care And then rarely for me, but I did count blink rate In 21 seconds. She blinked 14 times and she breathed seven times That's pretty rapid. So something's up in her head And then she's got that rigid poised neck like she's posing for a one of these cheap Photo studios where they make you turn your head and sit a certain way. That's all I got behind me So I stood up And I walked behind the bar And there was a larger bottle of vodka the kind with the handle, you know On it I grabbed that and I went and I sat in my seat again I opened the bottle and I poured myself a shot and drank it Mr. It was flinging insults left right and center and She then grabbed that bottle And uh And threw that at me um and the way that the The way that the bar was situated And where mr. Was so if if If if I could show you so if This is the bar the bottles If this was the bar and I'm sitting here like this, she would grab the bottle and she would go There she went there and so I Was leaning like this in the chair Looking at her first bottle went Then got the other bottle shot Takes the second bottle, which was the larger one I'm in this position again and my my Hand is on the edge of the The bar like like that in leaning over the fingers like that and uh She threw the large bottle and it made contact And shattered Uh Everywhere I honestly didn't I didn't feel the pain At first at all. I felt no pain whatsoever What I felt was um I felt heat I felt heat and I felt um as if something were dripping down my hand, you know um and then I looked down and Realized that the the the tip of my finger had been severed and I was looking directly at My bones Now and uh the the The meaty portion of your the inside of your finger the um And it was blood was just uh pouring out And at that point I I I I think that I went into some sort of I don't know what a nervous breakdown feels like But that's probably the closest that I've ever been I didn't Nothing made sense And I knew in my mind and in my heart This is this is not life This is not life No one should have to go through this All right, I'll go first on this one. Um, what was this is This is the rich person's version of cops. It's just not happening in a Um, a trailer park. I mean, this is one of those Knocked there's somebody gets drunk and starts throwing bottles. How many times you've seen that on there? You know, they come dragging him out. So I don't know why nobody called the cops But uh, that that's what this is exactly like um This is an emotional situation As we're as we know, but he's got a pretty low blink rate for that And so is his breathing his reading rate's fairly low too for such an emotional situation Um, we're not seeing anything that says From that standpoint that something was up here. It's something is firing off all of his Emotions here. So maybe he's that controlled. I don't know, but I don't think he's acting. I think he's really living this so he's staying calm keeping his wits about him and That's an again him keeping his head together so he can structure his words the way they should be Now let's talk about amber for a second. We're seeing the same thing we did last time pretty much But I think she's acting and we're gonna see that a lot in a few minutes Because when certain things he says those eyebrows pop up like she's shocked almost and and like it bothers her I don't think it does somebody would do something like that Listening back to the story is not going to shock her and I believe him That's that's why I feel okay about saying that and outside of a couple of those eyebrow twitches nothing um There aren't any micro expressions that I'm seeing that really mean anything you see a couple of little twitches But nothing that that actually you can I don't think you can lock up to anything specific Her her breathing rate is about the same breathing the same way or blink rates are the same She's having those little a couple of little clusters here and there Uh, she's concerned, but she's not concerned. I don't think about him I think she's concerned about herself if that is concerned. It's hard to tell with her eyebrows like that Chase, what do you got? Yes, brilliant man. I fully agree with that He shifts again back to the u pronoun. He goes from i to u But only during the socializing of the injury to help people visualize and understand what this happened to you and if you're a nerd You can look this up. It's called a shift of referential index to to technicify that but amber goes into internal dialogue when Dep pauses to think about what to say the moment Dep pauses she goes into internal dialogue My opinion This is either empathy or calculated prediction You can probably guess which one I'll leave it up to you. Let me know in the comments what you think or what your intuition says But when he's saying nothing made sense and I knew in my mind and heart and all this Expressions are timed perfectly. They appear on the face just as he starts speaking or just before he starts speaking So he's processing the emotion as he's getting the sentence ready to go, which is truthful And when he's saying this this is not life part the smiling I think is nervous It's matched with the pacifying behavior with his hand which is made to calm us down or soothe us or Regain a feeling of control of the situation There's adapters on his legs where he's rubbing his hands onto his thighs there And this is matched with confirmation glances around the room He's looking around the room for some kind of approval as he's saying this is not life This is not what life is supposed to be. I think this is a truthful statement Greg what do you got? Yeah, all I hear when he's talking I just said this to you guys on the break. This is marlon brando and apocalypse now Oh, I mean though his speech pattern he has marlon brando in his head here I mean Given this guy is one of the most talented in my opinion Again, this is all my opinion, but this one specifically. I think he's one of the most talented actors of my lifetime So just because he can turn into anyone But I do hear marlon brando here that speech pattern any storytelling He's going through the right bullets right details not saying that's a lie by any means I'm saying his story delivery is good and powerful I also noticed that he gets to this kind of blank thing and when he gets to at the point He pauses more than is normal And I think we'll find out a more later about there's a whole lot that happened after this point But that probably was a break point for him. And so it's hard for him to get his head around it He's but all of his messaging all of his messaging to your point his eye his blank rate his Brow his hands everything is congruent. It doesn't like a bad kung fu movie It looks like he's saying exactly what he's saying he edits as he speaks he stops and his hands stop It's interesting to watch all of this movement and to see all of this play out in that way I think as you watch him you can't help but realize that something Horrible has happened there chase to your point with her when she goes that internal dialogue I think the internal dialogue is uh-oh what is coming up next Whatever you want to say whether it's empathy or she's trying to figure out whatever it is There's something right in there between them There's a whole lot of baggage here and I'll just be as sarcastic as I know how to do and say I think what I see in her is love and sympathy And hoping he feels better Mark, what do you got? Yeah, so I think let's talk about herd first of all. I think we get a bit of both I think we do get some empathy and we get calculation Look Johnny Depp is compelling and I'll come to a moment why he's compelling and how he's I would agree Greg Probably the greatest character actor of his generation, but he's not doing the character acting Right now and I'll come to that in a moment. But what happens with her? Well, he's he's such a compelling and um empathetic Storyteller here that her head starts tilting to one side as she gets drawn into the feeling then she realizes hang on I'm meant to be cold and calculating here and the head straightens He continues his compelling Storytelling and the head goes again to the side He is hypnotic in in this particular style of being Johnny Depp now What's this laughter about I I believe this particular release of tension is around The absurdity of the unfairness of the situation We see the same laugh when he's performing in in Life's too short rickety of aces show go and see that where he's in life's too short He's railing at His annoyance of being made fun of at the at the golden globes as well as his the other stars This is Johnny Depp being Johnny Depp in the imaginary Circumstance of railing at at rickety of ace if he really was offended So to your point earlier on chase. It's it's an ordered psychosis. It's a managed psychosis It's really Johnny Depp But he's pretending really well that it's a whole different set of circumstances So it becomes very very real for him now in this managed psychosis What is the aggression that we see from him? We see territorial aggression He flicks his cigarette in rickety of ace's glass of water So he takes territory of an important resource And then when he gets really angry and can't stand it anymore and starts to cry a little bit He stands up. He walks away He kicks a waste paper basket And then he walks out a little bit more and he turns over a bowl of fruit And that is as aggressive as Johnny Depp gets when he feels the absurdity of the unfairness What we don't see in that performance is he being aggressive towards the perpetrator being violent towards the perpetrator He is territorial aggressive for sure But he's violent at other objects. He's violent at other avatars And that I would say is Johnny Depp being really Johnny Depp in this circumstance where he feels violated now If if you were being Johnny Depp doing his character acting as he would say He would be getting a big stick and swinging it because that's what he calls his character acting He just gets the biggest idea he possibly can and he swings for the fences and what he's looking for after, you know, um Cut is for there to be silence on the set that people cannot believe what he's done. He's created utter chaos utter bizarreness of performance That's not what we're getting in the courtroom. This isn't a bizarre performance by any this isn't his character acting This is Johnny Depp being Johnny Depp in this situation. Yes, he's made up of all kinds of personas Just like I am just like people just like chases just like greg just like scott You could go. Oh, you know chase is a bit like this person Oh, greg's a bit like this person and this person and you'd probably be right I'm a bit like a whole bunch of people that I aspired to be and who were who held resource over me And I thought well if I'm like them I might be successful as well. He's just the same But it's really him now And The the the meaty portion of your the inside of your finger the And it was blood was just pouring out And at that point I I think that I went into some sort of I don't know what a nervous breakdown feels like But that's probably the closest that I've ever been I didn't Nothing made sense And I knew in my mind and in my heart This is this is not life This is not life No one should have to go through this and uh She entered the bedroom while I was laying on my side of the bed reading and She was still rattling off all the Wrongs I'd done to her in that particular day and and how unreliable I am and What a you know, what a Horrible person I was um, and I and I didn't not I did not engage Verbally nothing. I sat there or laid there reading my book and when that And she didn't get a jump out of me or a jolt out of me She got out of bed She walked around the bed. She came to my side And again, you know, you've got uh, you've got a person who is uh Uh Throwing multiple Shots at your At your face at your head at your neck at your at anything she could hit so I I got up out of bed And I grabbed her by the shoulders And I sat her down on the bed And I said I'm leaving. Please don't get off the bed. Please don't follow me Please don't try and stop me I'm leaving and she got up Off the bed And she squared off at me in the doorway of our bedroom And I said, what do you what do you want to do hit me again? Would you like to hit me again? And I said go ahead Hit me I just said did that is that what you wanted? Would you like another? Bam There's the second one And I said good now you're done Grabbed her by the shoulders Walked her to the bed sat her down and said Don't follow me. Leave me alone. I'm out. I'm gone I went I grabbed a few things And I got out immediately and I went to My other house on sweet sir All right, Greg, what do you got? Yeah, this is among my favorites. This is after he missed her birthday because he had some financial trouble He found out he's almost he had lost a lot of money and leave it at that And he was an hour and a half late to go to her birthday party And so it turned into chaos and then he's got a long story before it gives to this But his baseline is pretty normal when he says no good could come of this He does the rattling around in the floor and then eye contact There's an interesting thing here that makes me think volatility is part of their life You just said it in the break, but he says I sat her Down that sat is awfully labored. I wasn't sure in the beginning He wasn't wasn't about to say I pushed her down on the bed But there's an if you want to know the difference Listen through this whole clip. He says I sat her on the bed twice Listen to the first one and then listen to the second one It's a pause like he's almost ready to say I pushed her on the bed, but he doesn't He says sat that makes me think that they've got a history of volatility. I would say this Restraint is probably not a smart idea with anybody you're involved with It probably can equate to domestic and some some just some jurisdictions Your mileage may vary as they say, but after he says that he does a throat clear Which is not usual for him He does the throat clear after he said sat her on the bed Then he goes to hard internal conversation go compare that to the second Then he does his brows up to punctuate when he's talking He's got his forehead already up and he can raise a brow or two of this forehead up That is incredible muscle control. I mean, I don't see it in anybody I say all the time if you ever want to see some fantastic muscle control Go watch him character act and willy wonka one of those he can move more in love with him And more more emotions over his face than any person I've ever seen. No, Scott. That's you I swear I've never heard you talk and every podcast you've been on every time his name comes up You talk about how great actor and I agree with he's great. He's an awesome actor But man, you just get all emotional up in there. Oh, yeah, I'm all emotional about it. That's for sure Anyway, that's about as emotional as I get about about some actor for sure So anyway, his brows up go up and he does that punctuation and then he's overtly demonstrative She's sitting there and she almost looks like she's gonna cry you look Her face is getting narrower and narrower and sagging deeper and deeper And I think regardless of what kind of crazy volatility you got in a relationship You got feelings for that person somehow whether they're love hate a mixture of love and hate And a lot of times in those kind of environments where you get to physically volatile relationships It's a chemistry experiment and like I've said many many times One or the other probably is not a saint living with a brawler There's probably a little bit escalation on both sides. It's never okay to get to physical violence on either side But that pushing buttons probably is an art form when you're Up against each other all the time and already irritate that a lot of each other mark. What do you got? Yeah, so uh heard right from the start blink rate is up on the lead up to the story of The violence so I would say You know, we don't know why the blink rate is up because it could be that Um, she's worried. She's anxious about this story being told or she's reliving the story Or something else you can think of all kinds of reasons why anxiety May well go up on this lead up But this is important because then we get johnny's story about the blows that she put towards him And uh on the second blow where he says There's the second one She's now focused, but we get what I would suggest is a slow blink from her I would say that is a set acceptance and agreement that that event happened So if there was any question in anybody's mind whether She struck him or not. I would suggest that's a good piece of evidence Lots clearly happen I don't know what happened save time or whatever Yeah, you go you go and get your stuff. I'll I'll finish this and then who are we going to next who's been scott's last, right? I'll call on you and hopefully you'll be back. I'm gonna be sure. Okay. You better get to the right. I'll talk for you Okay, I'll be back for you mark. Oh, okay. Okay, great. Uh, so where was I on this? Uh, yeah, look if there was any doubt in anybody's mind whether it is true that she Stuck him or not. I would lay good money that she did because of that slow blink of of recognition It's a it's and it's baselined well because we saw the the blinks of anxiety or stress beforehand We saw her focused and not blinking at all before all of that great baseline around that Chase, what do you think? Yeah, when he says so I get up out of bed. I'm gonna start kind of in the middle of this He quickly flashes to emotional eye movement just before talking about the decision to get up and leave truthful And it's unconscious behavior When he says I grabbed her by the shoulders and body narration there So he's showing us just like he does when he's telling other things that are truthful But right when he's telling her not to follow and then he's leaving I think he's truthful about his tint and emotions. No glabella movement here. This is important If he's sitting her down and lecturing her Even if he recalled himself yelling or being really mean or angry you would see this little the eyebrows come down the glabella of this muscle right here squeeze in a little bit No downward movement of eyebrows and this can Often show a person recalling being angry or domineering in situations where they're pretending to be kind and peaceful And this is helpful for police officers or anybody in conflict resolution when they're talking to people And maybe domestic violence case or something like that And then he says, you know, she squared off at me. Then there's another chin thrust And I think this is a truthful recollection of the reaction to being physically challenged Which is what we do. We expose our arteries to people when we want to show that we're not fearful And then the hitting he's still using body narration And if he was coached to do this the attorney I think would make sure that he spoke the words so that they appear on the transcript of court records Instead of just this little narration with his face and showing where it got hit Attorney would have coached him to say it to where it was in the transcript Amber shakes her head during this during this discussion about the punching But she only shakes it very slightly at the second punch. So I think there is something to that Might have still happened, but there's still something there Maybe she recalls a different occurrence or maybe she have hidden differently here with an ashtray instead of a fist or something like that I don't know But at the final when he's saying don't follow me There's genuine digital extension into what we call a stop gesture And this is what this little flat hand movement is what we do when we're trying to talk somebody out of something If it's down at your side and your pocket and your purse Your hand will still stretch out if you're trying to get someone to stop something Linguistically your our hands naturally want to go out like this. So that's what the stop gesture is and that's all I got Scott, what do you have? All right. Sorry about that. Not only not always my camera keep turning off. There's a wasp in here I've been watching him and he's getting closer. He's he's making a plan. I know he's planning on doing My menu and my menu and coming after you. Oh my god And top it all off. I've got Nashville hot chicken tenders up here Beautiful Frozen to keep that cool. You know, how do we do something cool? Okay All right. Sorry. I missed that chase. I would I would love to have heard that All right. So this is where it gets interesting from a facial expressions a point of view But before that again, this is just trailer park stuff, man. This is just this is just cops roll up on on a For a domestic that's what this is You know, I don't I don't understand why they're not involved Why didn't somebody call the cops? She should have done that or he should have done that something in this case He should have done that but he didn't do it this but again This is where it gets interesting from a from the perspective of facial expressions And like Greg was talking about his entire forehead gets involved here And and these things keep flowing in and out these move these Movements and and I don't I don't understand how he does it either. It is fascinating I'm not in love with him like Greg is but it is fascinating But up to this point here, that's the most we've seen in this group of videos But we're going to see it some more in a different way when we get when we get down the line a little bit And the thing about her at this point, I think what we're seeing her she's acting She's pretty much the same as she was a little bit more head movement And I don't know what you you guys were talking about before this But one thing I thought was interesting about all these videos we've seen so far has anybody seen anybody swallow? No, no, I haven't either. I don't know what's up with that. I mean nobody's swallowing in this thing So that's I'll end it there and Because I can't focus with his wasps flying around in here You need one of those electrified tennis racket things. Oh, yeah I advocate the killing of wasps Anyway, you're gonna get in trouble for that mark and you're in so much trouble. The wasps shouldn't be killed Now we want to kill him. I'll catch him and put him outside wasps are very very helpful creatures. Yes, they are She entered the bedroom while I was laying on my side of the bed reading and She was still rattling off all the wrongs I'd done to her in that particular day and How unreliable I am and What a you know, what a Horrible person I was And I and I didn't not I did not engage Verbally nothing. I sat there or laid there reading my book and when that She didn't get a jump out of me or a jolt out of me She got out of bed She walked around the bed. She came to my side And again, you know, you've got you've got a person who is Throwing multiple shots at your At your face at your head at your neck at your at anything she could hit So I I got up out of bed And I grabbed her by the shoulders And I sat her down on the bed And I said I'm leaving Please don't get off the bed. Please don't follow me Please don't try and stop me I'm leaving and she got up Off the bed And she Squared off at me in the doorway of our bedroom And I said, what do you what do you want to do hit me again? Would you like to hit me again? And I said go ahead Hit me I just said did that is that what you wanted? Would you like another? BAM There's the second one And I said good now you're done grabbed her by the shoulders Walked her to the bed sat her down and said Don't follow me. Leave me alone I'm out. I'm gone I went I grabbed a few things And I got out immediately and I went to My other house on Sweetser Had you ever been accused of physically abusing a woman before this point? No How would you describe the impact of these allegations at the time they were made and Arnold if you could please take this down I've I've Felt ill. I felt sick I mean I've sick in a sense that but I There was no truth in it There was no truth in it whatsoever And the fact that it was coming down on me so hard Um and so quickly And how it it it gained momentum around the world Um and then you notice people Looking at you differently And then you notice Calls Stop coming from agents and producers and Um that sort of thing this was this was a This was a before this was before in fact the Me too movement had uh Had Come around This was a while before that so I I couldn't have expected the me too movement to happen but Um once that happened Then it it just went into skyrocket mode so you're Shattered with uh You know you you're running between Drops of lava You're trying to run between raindrops that are That that that kill you Um and destroy you all right. Greg. What do you got? Yeah, I'll be quick on this one a couple of things When he's asked did you ever assault have you ever assaulted when his blink right goes through the roof? Does that mean he has Not necessarily it simply means fight or flight It means that and it's the first time we've seen his blink rate increase in this entire thing He's being asked a hard question a question. There's accusatory not simply saying tell me your story And then after that and after that and after that it's asking him a pointed question His blink rate does increase and he says no twice and then he breaks to internal voice If you ever want to know what a thousand yard stare is That's what he's doing it when he hits internal voice when he goes to an internal conversation He's not sitting there dwelling his eyes just go out of focus. He's internal all together He's thinking through how to say this And then he goes with a single eyebrow to drive It was everything a single eyebrow in the middle of all that forehead stuff And we're going to see that single eyebrow rise More than one time as a real strong emphasis for him when he hits something And then when he says this was you see his points of his Brows on the inside rise up. We equate that with sorrow overall the body language is congruent with the message He's delivering and then he does some evocative storytelling. It was like lava Now that's you know, that's actor talking. That's a guy who's larger than life talking I wouldn't say it was like a lot. I'd say it was like a storm Something like that because I don't talk the same way Scott. What do you got? All right, this is a really really important Time for him because this is what the whole thing is based on him losing money because of the article she had put in whatever the news thing was so he's got a lot of full eye contact going on here and He's shown a lot of focus and attention Because he's trying to explain perfectly as clearly as he can for that jury to hear why Um, they're there this is the reason they're there So that's really important to him from from their perspective of structure and making it stick Now another thing like you guys are talking about how charismatic he is and and all that How much Greg loves him is he those long pauses in there when someone is speaking And they wait between words Then you're just waiting for him to talk so everybody just kind of leans in and starts listening real hard So I believe that's part of what he's doing here as well making sure he gets every point across And the question on on everyone's mind here is did you hit her? You know did he really do this that he really hit her and we're not seeing as many as We're not seeing as many pauses as we saw before because he's trying to get through that story and make sure everything gets laid out So people understand it He's sitting each point and every one of these points that he's hit that he's prepared for that's where we see that I And uh forehead engagement happen again We see those getting coming into play there. His diction is really clear Everything's really clean here. His voice tone is clean and clear his diction spot on and he's not talking too fast But he's talking a little bit faster his voice tone is a little bit higher Because he's he's energy level is up to talk about this and to get this point across Uh, and we see more in his brow at this point. I think that we have uh So far so mark, what do you got? Yeah, uh, so good answer I think to that that question no No And the second no isn't an emphatic no It's more like the real answer The first one is the answer that he knows he needs to give and the second one I believe because it's what we would call pathetic It kind of goes down in in its in its kind of energy at the end. That's more Johnny debt really giving the answer that no this didn't happen. So good answer there He takes time again to look for the feelings and look for his thoughts again Go and look at huntress thompson one of his heroes go and look at keith richards one of his heroes And you will take both of them poets You know people who pick the exact words to use to have the maximum impact He they both do this looking down to locate and take time to find the right word and then bring it out And so of course you get this kind of let's say byronic Poetry coming out of of fire skyrockets Volcanoes being showered by by raindrops of molten lava. I mean, it's just Extraordinary stuff and and no surprise that Johnny Depp has played those hellraisers the Earl of Rochester in In the Libertine, which was written by an old friend of mine, Stephen Jeffries. Sadly, sadly gone. Love you Steve And you know the mad bad dangerous to know Extraordinary characters who are fiery. He's he's linked with all those things. So we get those kind of fire metaphors Coming coming in there Um Yeah, heard Well, she's breathing in the rhythm of his speech She's utterly hypnotized by this who wouldn't be because it's completely poetic and it's it's performed You know quite brilliantly So even she is Enraptured by this and and she's meant to be against him So it's very difficult not to be pulled into his influence and persuasion here But all the same. I think his first dancer had a lot of credibility had a lot of truth to it Chase, what do you think on this one? Yeah, I agree with all you guys. I'll just cover a couple things here When he's saying the world's coming down on me so hard, you'll see a smile Right right when he's talking about that And I've actually seen a few expert experts call this deceptive on online But this is literally what he's done every time that he's mentioned being injured Every single smile is a social injury or a physical injury every time I think throughout the entire nine hours. I don't know if I saw any Any exceptions to that But he's describing in some kind of injury and there's a smile with that and We'll cover more on this in a second, but He's saying it's gained momentum around the world. There's another smile Communicating and discovering an injury and then he talks about Being hurt emotionally and he shifts back into the you pronoun to help you identify with it As he's done every time he's described receiving the injury or realizing the injury and then finally Another shift right at the end here from I am discussing my life into you So it's easier for people to get and see themselves inside of that story And I think finally here when he says I felt ill I felt sick There's eye closure where he's avoiding the the feeling of it and there's emotional accessing his eyes go down into the emotional area And I think this is mostly truthful here Had you ever been accused of physically abusing a woman before this point? No How would you describe the impact of these allegations at the time they were made and Arnold if you could please take this down I've I've I've felt ill I felt sick I mean I've sick in a sense that but I There was no truth in it There was no truth in it whatsoever And the fact that it was coming down on me so hard Um and so quickly And how it it it gained momentum around the world Um and then you notice people looking at you differently and then you notice Calls Stop coming from Agents and producers and Um that sort of thing this was this was a This was a before this was before in fact the Me too movement had uh Had uh Come around This was a while before that so I I couldn't have expected the me too movement to happen, but Um once that happened Then it it just went into skyrocket mode so you're You're showered with uh You know you you're running between drops of lava You're trying to run between raindrops that are That that that kill you Um and destroy you if it's in dangle mode Mr. Depp have you ever physically assaulted misheard? Never Have you ever sexually assaulted misheard? Never certainly not What have you lost as a result of misheard making these allegations against you? Nothing less than everything Nothing less than everything Chase what do you got? Right at the have you ever sexually assaulted misheard? There's a smile And that smile is going to creep a whole lot of people out my opinion is that this smile that we're seeing here Is being asked a ridiculous question That's something that he couldn't even fathom. That's like me asking greg if he kidnapped a giraffe last week He'd be like no Possible So I think he finds it laughable ridiculous As a second option I think this may invoke the memory of their physical relationship not the fighting one the other one Which he may be smiling about Then he prefer performs this kind of long mental search moving around takes all the time he needs Like every I wish every opponent I've ever spoken to Would do this And you can't it's hard to get people to do it But this is kind of the file clerk running around and pulling files from the eyes moving around The little file clerk is running around to get what it needs Twice in there It's hard into emotional accessing processing the emotional tone of the answer to the question So I want to talk about him repeating this phrase right at the very end People repeat repeat phrases like this for a few reasons. They're told to do it They have this one phrase as a key message and they want to really hammer that into the audience They truly feel the weight of the phrase and that's what I think we're seeing here I don't think it was coached. I don't think it was some key thing He had on a post-it note on in the weeks leading up to this on his fridge And he offers it the second time with an upward tone An upward tone as if that's all I can think of that's the only way I could say it I don't think he planned on saying it twice He says it again because it's the truth to him and the upward tone It's just kind of an apology for having nothing else or no other way to say it Mark, what do you got? Yeah, I agree the never never the first never Very firm very assertive got no problem with that Second never. Yes. There is this glint of delight now people out there might go Oh, as Jupiter's delight that one. It's nothing like Jupiter has nothing to do with that whatsoever That looks completely different go back to our other videos where you'll be able to see Jupiter's delight in a whole bunch of people It's it's only on one side of the face. This is full delight. There is a glint in his eye I would go I'm gonna go With your second option there chase. I think it was if it was the first option We might even get a laugh from him of the absurdity I think and and maybe you're gonna disagree with me further down the line I would love that because I'm always open to to new ideas and what somebody else thinks because it makes all of us Better thinkers, but I would expect a laugh from him if it were the absurdity of the question I think it's him envisaging the idea of sexual and and his you know former partner there heard Poetic answer at the end nothing less than everything. That's a piece of poetry Of course, it is very immense in its scope But he's going for big money and so I think it does a couple of jobs it fulfills the poetic part of him And you know it fulfills the part of him that's looking for I don't know 50 million or something like that Which is probably not a lot compared to Actually what he's lost You know in potential potential damages If it turns out that That it goes in his favor here. That's a cheap deal 50 million. I would think Scott. What do you got on this one? All right, let's pay attention to that head shake. No when he says never That's that's fairly I mean even at a gut level you can tell that That's that that I would believe that's true even from a gut level level and Both of them are strong and he also says certainly not he doesn't say absolutely not Now that there's a thing that says because you use the word absolutely It means you're you're not being honest for being deceptive But we sure see the word or hear the word absolutely quite often when someone's being deceptive Um, so I don't know what the validity of that is there, but still Sorry, the hot chicken just fell off my camera so I don't see any Yeah, I don't see any deceptive cues in this at all And uh when he's asked uh there when he says I've uh Asked when he says I've lost uh nothing less than everything I think he might be right if he didn't get a gig soon So because I think he's kind of headed for the money problems and again, uh, this is really important Part of his case and he's trying to to get this spot on And I'm gonna kill that little thing with my shit with my candle Maybe the last we ever see of him. Yeah He prays go we're going to anaphylactic shock. Exactly. Exactly taxes knack There you got it now. We'll be uh, we'll be on trial now Now we're now we're getting cancelled. Yeah, send him to wasp heaven with my candle Thank you. Wow This was bought to you by kindle probably the best You'll ever need Wow, are you finishing? Are you guys close? I'm finished there. I think I pretty much I I only have a few things. Um, his blink rate goes up in the beginning Of course when he's asked a hard question again, did you assault? I think and and chase you can change my mind as we get further in I think every time we see that nervous smile. It's not just a nervous smile It's laughing at the absurdity of self and where this thing has gotten to I think human beings love the Love to see people fall from great heights. It's why this stuff is all so interesting I mean, there's millions of of stories You know, dad was a knick wrist thing We got flies too close to the sun falls all that stuff is deeper than our psyches The other thing we're going to watch with this is guaranteed the comments are going to be Just like this some people are on his side On her side and we're scumbags one way or the other it'll be interesting to see which way this time And who's paying us because you know We obviously can't We could obviously use the money Soros waiting for that Soros check So we're waiting. So bring us some money. Come on George The most interesting of all the body language in this entire thing and chase I agree with you seeing his eyes dart and look around he goes to places He hasn't gone up in his up in his visual memory and all those places he's rolling around But look at his forehead It's smooth as he's telling you the story about everything that's happened to him and how devastating it's been It looks like lifeless forehead compared to everything else he's had in here Lots of movement his forehead otherwise it goes flat and then he goes nothing short of everything Nothing short of everything He's falling from great heights And quite literally mark like you said a bread that he's worth 400 million or whatever the number is But 50 million dollars could be a drop in the bucket compared to two movies. Who knows so big deal. I'll leave it at that If it's in dangle mode Mr. Depp, have you ever physically assaulted mishard? Never Have you ever sexually assaulted mishard? Never certainly not What have you lost as a result of mishard making these allegations against you? Nothing less than everything nothing less than everything