 this is Houston we are go for launch ladies and gentlemen welcome to tonight's entertainment there we go getting up there that's better that should be better hopefully so can you hear us on there why it's none of the things up there showing up or actually I did this reverse didn't I you did but you can't change it now cuz we'll lose everything just for a little bit no don't do it leave it I can do it no you can't man oh man Adam man what's going on I didn't see you over there live in the dream I'm here party on dude so they said the volume is low is it still though that's the question yes it's they're saying shouldn't be saying louder please and then another one said loud and clear doing good well I made an adjustment there guys tell me whether or not it's yeah well I made it adjustment made it better it should be really good right now it's good now okay cuz there's a little bit of a delay there you got to remember I'm seeing oh we got someone said hello from the Arctic I'm seeing some new names in here old handy Luke I've not seen before my friend Pepsi's here we got brandy here Brandon I've seen him in here before biker he's new Dave Samuel oh Samuel says I think the only reason we're here is for Laura I wouldn't doubt it and that's okay I'm gonna use her just like you're using her using me to get see her so I'm okay with that Jeff the maintenance man hey how's it going yeah there's some some new folks in here and we got some of the usuals so I like this well that's cool you guys got to check out the new video I apologize a little bit behind on that I had a quarter of the way as you notice there on the screen COVID-1 COVID-2 there's a reason for that so I wasn't at work last week because I had the COVID and so I didn't really record anything last week so I dug and dug until I could find something to make a video on and basically that's what I came up with I had multiple different ones and none of them are gonna be easy because they all were kind of sketchy messing things and I didn't like do the ending or I got started on it and thought it wasn't worth recording and and these were out of the forbidden no-no zones so I had to make something work and that's what happened in last night I didn't start saving in the beginning and it crashed and I had nothing to back up to so this is what you got it was just a little bit low a little bit later in a day but I think it's been working pretty good on Sundays and Wednesdays or Sundays and Thursdays seems to be working out pretty good so yeah we're both positive or was technically I'm released to go back to work tomorrow my first sign was like the day day or two before Thanksgiving I had a little bit of a temperature and it went away like it happened at 4 in the morning and went away by the time we got up and I didn't go to work then on Friday and was off Thursday naturally and I didn't have nothing other than this little cough it was more no more than that and had no fevers other than that one time and I called and talked to everybody at work said hey what do you want me to do and they said well if you feel fine and you ain't got no other symptoms move on okay fine so on Monday they had I said you know just to be safe I said I don't want to go into customers houses I don't mind going on the roof going to you know commercial where I'm away from people so the girl filling in brought me into the shop where we have a lot of older folks and I stayed in the shop all day didn't notice any problems I had my smell and taste and everything else but I was working on a propane boiler and I bled it and I could see the ripple effect of the propane gas but I couldn't smell it and I'm like oh so I said hey over there can you smell this and she goes you mean that strong gas smell I'm like yeah I'm like that's not good I said I need to get out of here so went and got tested the next day and sure enough and then she was told to go get tested and she had it but she got checked out you know a little bit later in her workplace goes on the day they were tested and then go 10 days after so the state actually goes 10 days from your first symptom which might be why everything's spreading who knows so well it's 10 to 14 days if you have symptoms it's 14 days in your way past that yeah so I'm trying not to spread the the holiday cheer so not too much anyhow so yeah how was it if you could describe it because I know a lot of people want to know which I'm a little nervous coming on here because I didn't want to catch up for you guys I'm worried about you know the resident computer virus and all but yeah you know I think everyone wants to know like how bad I know it's different for everyone but how that's just it is you would think I would be on my on it already on a ventilator like fighting for life at this point but she got sick on Sunday I've not had any symptoms like say the week or two ago but like right right after Thanksgiving she actually got sick on Sunday and then I didn't start getting the stuff going on till like a day or two later so I'm fairly healthy but I am 45 so I mean you know that's not old to some but it is to others so I pretty much you know to keep my weight down and stuff I watched what I eat so I'm in good health and and all that so for me luckily I didn't have any major issues I mean this cough thing is still kind of here but it's a dry cough now my nose did get like all my stuff was symptoms are all like weird not a backwards you know usually you think it all come at once the smell stuff you know that didn't happen way back last week or I would have been like no I ain't going in there and contaminating people and that didn't happen at first now granted I eat some boring foods a lot of my you know nutrition bars stuff like that and you know I know what it tastes like and it's not that exciting I eat a lot of apples so I know the squishy taste you know it's part of it's visually in your mind you just don't notice it but as soon as LP gas didn't show up it's like wait a minute I know that that plane is day and that was what triggered me to point where it was like oh no and then I then the taste started getting a little bit worse after that so it it kind of came along at the end of the day and then I got it back now so that was probably a day or two ago it came back so it's kind of it was a day or two or three some people say it's really weird I didn't really notice it too big of a deal but I mean it's not like you know kind of like plug your nose and then you can't taste there smell it but it wasn't it I had some taste it just it was weird but otherwise I had a stuffy nose on the one night I took some gel caps that then I was at night will whatever one of the night time sniffly sneezing so you can rest type medicines for congestion sure and I was able to sleep pretty good through the evening and you know wasn't no major issues so far as I know you know the plug nose that came a few days later that kind of sucked but that was only one day that it was like that had a little bit of a you know on the outside ribs on the outward backside of the back and a little bit of a pain there but I thought maybe it's because I slouching in the couch make you know working on the computer and stuff but basically that was about it so I mean I didn't have no stupid crazy you know paralyzing features or problems or anything like that yeah Jeff the maintenance man said yeah if you can't smell the mercaptan in LP that is bad yeah and you know I work on a lot of propane so it's not you know it's pretty evident to me and now her she didn't have the smell or taste issues but she did test positive yeah I thought like as of last week you were saying she was sick before you correct that's why I figured she gave it to me and she was sick last year when when they say that they actually came around because they're actually saying right now that they're testing blood that was donated back in November and December at the blood banks and it's showing antibodies which takes sometimes a month or two to show up so this COVID crap has actually been around way before December and January it would have been in the middle of summer last year so it's been here a lot longer than what we think and that was when you know remember when Chris came back from that show he was kind of sick and weird and then she had some weird sickness I you know I barely remember it but she she had some weird stuff going on I think this is probably her second round of it I bet what's weird is I was sick it was like two Sundays ago now and I I left the livestream Sunday and went to bed early and then that I went to work Monday and felt horrible the whole day came home and went to bed early and by Tuesday I felt better and by Wednesday I was completely back to normal so that's why I don't think I had it then because it as quickly as it came on it went away so who knows she gave it to me that's all there is to me no so I don't know we've got it and we're supposedly good for maybe a couple months before we get it again but then again who knows if that's just a lie so that it'll give you get you to take the antivirus so who knows a while weaver said it hit him hard he had a fever for four days horrible body aches and how old are you weaver yeah he had it yeah he had it bad because it's weird cuz I've seen people that are old and I've seen people that are young have total opposite things to where it's not just old folks it's getting you know it can be crazy young people too I think he might be in his 40s I just read an article about the town there is a somebody that was 30 years old no pre-existing conditions died of COVID he's weaver's 57 oh he looks good he's he's a good 57 yeah I said he stayed haven't seen him where have you seen him at Facebook I thought I actually we did a hangout with him didn't I don't think that was I'm mixing him up residential basics no weaver maintenance did we have him on there and maybe it was Adam because I only people I ever had on here was rookie and Dave and Ryan and I think that's about it so yeah I think so well so Pepsi he made the comment he said that is unusual to have someone die with no pre-existing symptoms or it's actually a lot of people that you would think like me that would be really super sick on a ventilator lately like as it's now like the COVID that we're seeing now they're doing fine and there's like young 20 30 something men that are 100% healthy you know can even be athletes and do everything book be really healthy and then they're the ones on ventilator and then they end up passing from it so it's really interesting that it's it's real hit-and-miss and it's nothing is consistent with this that's what's so so crazy about it and so scary and like we neither one of us know where whoever had it first yeah I mean did it come from touching doorknobs or did it come from a customer yeah you just don't know because there was a crapload of people got sick at church like well now that you have it you probably don't really care as much but as of before like I find myself looking at you know all the time basically like you go to a gas pump they're like well you know if you're at a gas pump you can get it from the gas pump well it's like you're at the gas pump then you open your door then you touch your hand sanitizer and then you you're at you you grab you're on a truck so you grab your steam will get into the truck so it's like well you can have your hand sanitizer but you also contaminated all these other surfaces so it's like it's so difficult and I've been like smacking it on and then I'll wipe it around the steering wheel and touch some of the things that I touched but they said the biggest thing is your phone is a lot of it but I know I've wondered about it also just because I'm not sure where it came from so and you know they say it can't come back again so I don't know yeah but you know like we said last week her grandpa was 80 some years old and he has it and he's fine has it too and she's fine and she's in her 80s it just it don't make sense very weird yeah well I've I've known a couple people to you know I'm not like friends friends with Susie Dunn but her mom died of COVID and a guy at the Supply House the manager at the Supply House I deal with every day his grandpa just died of COVID so it's starting to and more and more people that I know have it or have had it so I know originally it was like well I don't really know anyone with it so I think I'm good but now it's like well this person has it this person has it you know I mean one of our friends from church there his brother in law basically was mentally retarded and was in one of those assisted living homes whatever and he got it he was only in his 30s and not great he was a little overweight but he ended up dying from it so I mean it's just so selective on who it gets and everything else it's really odd and then me personally when they which I don't know if I should bring it up on here you know the whole vaccine thing yeah I don't know like if I want to take it right off the get-go to be honest with you I mean my purse me personally I don't know if I'd want to do it I kind of want to other have other people be the getting pigs in it I don't that's kind of I'm kind of glad that I got this now because you have like you know in a bodies for like three months is what they're estimating that it's just a guess at this point so what I'm thinking is even though I'm a health care worker I would have first dibs but I'm you know gonna see what they recommend because I'm half scared to take it because this is what's interesting so any vaccine you get regardless of what it is it has a VIS so a vaccine information sheet and it has all of the contraindications what it's you know any type of like usual side effect where there's just like localized secure arm hurts like things like that it really goes over everything for every vaccine they don't even have one yet for the COVID vaccine so that kind of scares me and I can't even get the flu vaccine because it actually gives me anaphylaxis where my airway actually closes so I'm somewhat afraid to get the vaccine because I don't know if it's gonna cause me anaphylaxis so I think I'm just gonna kind of wait and let everybody else get it like you said and then I'll be good for three months and then I can get it after that point as long as you know other people aren't killing over dead left or right from getting it and I'm curious to see you know some of those antibodies or the antidote whatever they basically have to be kept at like crazy super low temperatures like negative what 30 degrees or colder negative 80 or something crazy is that what it converts to because I mean everything's gonna be in Celsius so you know well that's a case and it's still liquid you know how long is it good as it's going into the syringe and into your body you know and how cold is that gonna be going into your body and then you also supposedly it's a boarded fetus tissue in there too from a male also in there I don't know if it's true or not but from what they broke down in the scientific science nomenclature that supposedly it's got that kind of crap in there so not real keen on that either so they've got to come up with some sort of synthetic thing to do it so I don't know scares me what Rich says he's not doing it this morning the news they were saying that you can get a stimulus check for getting it they're gonna try to buy you they're gonna try to buy you that's what they're gonna try to do yep yep I mean if it's a thousand bucks come on yeah they'll get a lot of people to do it oh yeah absolutely I mean that's how they got anyhow yeah so whoa babe turn off your notifications there geez yeah they're saying you're a little quiet there well yeah it's because you got to have me below everybody else it's awful love of Pete his volume level has nothing to do with your volume level that Pepsi that was Rick's computer because he always has it cranked up because he's deaf whatever there's just so many different things on the notifications I and let me see if I can go into my mixer here and close that I just said that for to do to do where's that although they did say I did hear I don't know if it's true or not that they're throwing back and forth the idea of not allowing people to fly on airlines if they don't get the the vaccine correct I did hear that as well yeah that's what they're gonna do they're gonna force you into it certain countries are not gonna allow you in you have a vaccine if you're traveling well I guess Joe from up north is gonna have to get it if he's gonna cross the border if he ever gets his passport right he's not gonna get his passport let's be honest you guys should take Rick in his place smuggle Rick in you just gotta grow a beard you could pass off as Joe it won't freaking grow man she yelled at me last time I started getting a little something going on you could see it in the freaking video it's so spotty and stuff I just trim finally because it's no shave November is over and I was getting yelled at daily from my wife so JD I would estimate they're gonna probably it's gonna probably be I know we've done some scientific coolers at one of the labs that we work at and it was like three different refrigerants in one and you literally weigh it in by pressure as much as we don't like to talk about using pressures for stuff you literally add so many pounds of pressure at this degree temperature and then add so much more pounds of pressure of this other type of refrigerant and you literally mix three different kinds of refrigerant and I don't know if it's a cascade system or not but from what I've heard it may have been I think it did have two compressors so one compressors made to cool the condenser on the other compressor so that they can really run ultra low and it just crazy oh here's some good comments so here's a good one so Hunter King said Rick you can't tell me you wouldn't get the vaccine if they gave you a new set of field piece gauges no I don't know yet man I want to make sure this crap crap's done I mean I'm glad you know if you're like at high risk what do you got to lose because if there's a good chance you're gonna die then you know roll the dice and try it out but now that I've already done it what's the big rush here I don't want to I don't know I want to be certain I read on Facebook Susie done posted that she was in the hospital for something I don't know if it was her because her dad was also in the hospital with COVID or side effects of COVID or what not but she saw somebody that got the that was on the trial phase you know the whatever with the COVID vaccination I don't know if it's the Pfizer one or the other one but they said she posted that she saw the person in the hospital and her organs were shutting down and they just because she did have it or didn't have it well here's the thing is COVID it was the vaccine oh and there's gonna be casualties so there's two Moderna and Pfizer have the emergency use and they've went through all phase three trials and they're as of right now good good to go but if you go to the FDA and look and see how many other people have where they're at trial wise for their vaccines I mean there's like 10 to 15 different companies that they're all staggered summer in their phase three testing is which is when they start testing on humans they're all over like some are still in that phase two but after the phase three they do their you know human testing and then they have all the data that's when they can then go the FDA and request that emergency use and the FDA still has to approve or deny them so I'd be curious to see if it's either Moderna or Pfizer's mRNA vaccine or if it's one of those other ones that's still in the middle of that like third wave of testing the funny thing is which really drives me nuts is you know the all you hear on the news every single day is basically like oh our numbers are up we're all going to die where your masks don't go out everyone needs to take this seriously and you keep hearing that their Pfizer filed for their emergency review and they filed for what like a month ago or over a month ago and the United States government can't get off their damn ass to get together to meet it's like we set the date for five or six weeks out from the time they filed it's like if it's such a big deal meet do this shit you know I heard the United Kingdom has already like approved it and they're starting to take the vaccine the Pfizer vaccine but I don't know I don't understand it because it's like some of them work day and night you know every notice Congress tends to you know the Senate stuff sometimes does crap at two o'clock in the morning it's like wait a minute why is that why ain't you working normal hours and then all sudden then they take months off at a time so well here's the thing masks I feel like and I can say this because I work in health care the only mask that's going to work is the N95 your cloth mask your regular surgical mask those don't work I mean I wear a mask pretty much religiously and I still got it somehow so Rick still got it somehow and he's always wearing a mask so I'm only wearing it because I have to and mine ain't surgical anyways what doesn't matter surgical mask because you those aren't and 95s well the N95 I even wonder I mean we're talking microscopic type stuff going I would think if it would get through it okay let's move along yep so Arctic Mike he said you had a nice video on three-way valves so he enjoyed that let's see what else we already talked about what type of refrigeration yeah I'm seeing lots of new names here tonight this is awesome well Rick I know scariness that was a three-way valve falling on the ground okay JD's watching a lot of Netflix and Hulu yep have you ever had to replace a Navian three-way valve on a combi unit you know they make it what's it what's an combi the boiler and tankless water heater in one they're using a reversing valve in it not a reverse I'm saying a three-way valve okay not a reversing valve a three-way valve oh gotcha no we sell them and that's actually what I was starting up there at the shop Navian I they're better than what they were the first ones I worked on by far but I don't know I just don't I don't know the Navian stuff's okay it's works good I just I don't know I haven't start to like it yet but no have not it's it sucks but I wouldn't doubt it probably all in there with a bunch of things to melt JD was asking what kind of temperature probe you were using in your fluke thermometer that was a Cooper Atkins I tried it by Cooper Atkins just because they always seem to be really super accurate I buy them on eBay I look for them there and then I'll search around almost everything I've gotten is almost like brand new in from eBay I mean this touch probes and stuff I don't use that thing hardly ever and the only reason why I was using it because I could get down in those tight spots and you know in there's pretty fast response but they're not my favorite thing in the world I'd rather have the clamp if I can use it and Pepsi's got a really good question for you too so have you guys ever received a service call where the utility service power has one or more dead legs of power I've had problems with neutrals neutrals is the biggest problem and that'll cause an imbalance on the transformer you'll have like a hundred and ninety some volts on one leg and then maybe 70 volts on the other and that's bad news because stuff gets blown up so yeah more neutrals tore loose than anything I've had it on where one one leg is down and then you start getting weird readings and weird things happening if you have like electric heat because it kind of leads through it's like a weird I don't know weird set up yeah somebody was wanting approval on HVAC over time how long do you think it takes before they start to phase out natural gas guys I don't think it's going to Mario Raphael Santagio Jr. also wants approval on joining HVAC overtime crew sorry it's cool I just have there's no way to freakin get it to stop because if I do it's going to lose you off the off the sign I've got the system turned down now Adam Weaver said he likes working on the Navian water heater great tech support easy to troll shoot so and if you do it a lot it's fine I mean I haven't gotten stumped by it yet now I did before on the first gen I had a lot of issues with it the flow switch and what irritated me the most was I just couldn't get no good information on anything in there far as like how things worked with the ratings and how things you know just nothing I had no idea how to check the switches or any of that stuff well let me tell you the reason why I don't like Navian is because number one the supply houses don't carry the parts that's number one they just don't carry the parts you have to call Navian for tech support they have to send you out the parts in the mail and my night it though what's that I think they'll overnight it won't they oh they will yeah like you know if you have if it's you know zero degrees outside and you're using it for a boiler you know their primary source of heat to somebody's house and you're like well sorry I can't go pick up your part today because they don't stock it we have to wait till tomorrow to get you heat good luck to you you know if you sold it to them then you really the bad guy why did you sell me something like this yeah and we saw a bunch of them you really have to lean on their tech support for things they are good with tech support they are just that three-way valve that I've had to do two three valves and it like it's cringe worthy to do it because you literally have to take apart everything inside the the combi unit which it's much more intimidating than just the boiler or just the tankless hot water heater you have to pull everything out and it's like the very very back left hand corner it's so difficult to get to no way to pull the side off or anything like that nope yeah that's not good I hate that hey Randy what's up man and same height of some of the other ones unfortunately I got the screens backwards when I did it and I didn't put it up here on top so I've got to look down or over there at hers so JD wants to know if you can run down the operations of that geo system he noticed some boiler parts that he was wondering about I mean for the most part it's just like a regular boiler I mean it's it's a geothermal water to water it's a round it's a regular ground loop out in the outside and it's a this is a rule area business and they've got a big ground loop system out there probably horizontal I bet I don't think it's vertical it has I mean I don't even know where the circulator pumps are at Ford honestly now I think about it so anyhow it comes into that machine and I've got I got a couple of those machines at a few different locations so it's not it's not too bad of a machine basically you've got two monster loops one's your load one's your source load is the side for the inside stuff source is what's going out into the out into the out of the outside it when you're running in heat mode for this particular model now if it was running an air handler that be a little different you know but so otherwise I mean it's a compressor that goes to a reversing valve then goes to the water-to-water coil comes out of there goes into a filter dryer a TXV and then into the other coil and then loops all back around again I mean I've always explained geothermal like taking your air conditioner out in the outside and throwing in the pond and that's pretty much what it is I mean you've just taken the coil and you've put it in water it's a big coil that one's a pretty good size unit I'm pretty sure it was a 30 ton unit 15 tons a piece but it really ain't that bad when you especially these new ones they've got good books on them and they show you what your super heat subcoiline your water drop and rise across your coils and all that they've made it so simple on the ones that I'm working on now versus when I first started I didn't know crap about them actually before I even came to this company I had only worked on probably about four or five and I didn't have a clue what I was doing so here we've sold so many of them because we work out in the rural areas that I got good real quick so between water furnace and climate master which was what Kerry was using I just saw the best chat of the night dizzy Dallas's HVAC survival live and hot pockets make my Sunday night sweet that is awesome hmm yeah so Rick we started up a trilogy climate master trilogy unit and that is a freakin slick unit I have to say you have the I don't know what it's called I don't remember the service tool or dongle it's a dongle then you hook it in your computer or phone you you hook it into your computer and you could literally read everything the pressures it shows like a cartoon of all the refrigerant flowing it shows the pressures temperatures of all the refrigerant it shows you the ground you know the pressures of the loop the temperatures of the loop everything you don't have to touch anything it's all computerized all internal sensors is that similar to the one that they had it had the white thermostat that you could scroll through it and like I had one it was in a residential unit and it had a variable speed water circulator pump in the unit I could see my condensing temperatures and all that it looks like the old ecobee thermostat is that I think it was probably made by white Rogers originally it had like up down left and right buttons I think on it and you had a hold a certain pattern you could go in there and it had it was old-fashioned looking I mean it had a you know a dot matrix look and display to where you know it could tell you all the different things but that controller would tell you all the codes from previous pasts and stuff like that so I was kind of wondering what the what the trilogy was like because I mean the unit that I showed in that video is pretty much the same one same control board they're using in their residential and what they were using in all those schools and stuff I've worked in so that's why I was wondering cuz I knew you were asking about a switch a relay switch system that would switch based off of what mode it was in or whatever I was trying to figure out what you were looking for I have another question like just kind of advice just because I want to play around with my own house you know I would really like to consider installing geothermal in my house just to play with it you know I mean just because I can I don't know I have a decent amount of land that I'm on and I'd like to do because eventually I'd like to do snowmelt I do want to do some radiant heat as well too so I'd like to do a water to air and a water to water but I was thinking what kind of cool things can I do with chilled water in my house and I have a couple ideas and I was wondering if you like what do you think you mean fires like running it to an air handler or something like that well I don't think you need to run it you can run it to an air handler but like you already if I already have a water to air like if I use a trilogy unit and that's an inverter I don't really need to run the water to water like chilled water from the water to water to an air handler I'm just thinking like what can you use the water to water for I'd be for production but I mean I ain't gonna have that in a house I mean cool machine down or something like that I've the most efficient system from what I've been told and it beats regular water type source heat pumps I think it's a DX and where they take the refrigerant lines and put it outside in the dirt that's the most efficient I think that one hits up in like the 30 seer range there's a company around here I thought about you know seeing if I could get them to sell it to me because I don't know if they're making it or if they're buying it or what but they come out with like they make fun of it because it sounds like it's a well driller but it literally comes out and will dig like four or five holes into a star pattern at an angle down at multiple different things and they'll put this refrigerant line down and there was some sort of grout and then they have a manifold it hooks you know basically they hook all this together outside and then they bring it inside to the compressor unit that's in the house and then obviously it'll have an air coil on the other side I thought about trying to build it myself I was like what would it take to get some three-eighths line coat it with something and lay it outside in the dirt you know maybe four foot six feet deep and just try it you know what are you out so I thought about doing something goofy like that what manufacturer is it like what's the I'm not sure I'm not sure I'd love to give them I'll give you their name later and you can maybe see if you can figure it out it's uh they're they're near bias but from what I've been told like where I worked at before the sales guy that I worked with back at this other the other place I was at he said their unit was so much more efficient than even our geothermals that we were selling which you know they're just normal water furnaces or climate master carrier whatever and supposedly that thing is more efficient they're they're having like 35 to 65 dollar electric bills I mean it's like stupid I don't know if it's true but it's supposedly what it was yeah craziness but yeah seeing a bunch of things in there guys sorry if I miss some of it because it's like I am not able to look down quite well here you've been keeping an eye on it there yeah even I've we missed anything I don't know but I'm gonna start a heist why is that you'll see I'm starting the heist you mean a heist I told you about it earlier but you didn't listen yeah I did are you talking about the little bot well no people are they're checking their their zip screws oh geez craziness going on here just craziness that's that's our loyalty loyalty points our zip screws super duper yeah running Roy says running pumps gets expensive you know what I had the job I'm working on right now we compared I had one of the engineers from I think it's who makes the flow centers geoflow right is it flow master or something like that or geoflow or geolink or one I don't know I think they're almost all the same they know but like to take a look in pumps or whatever right but I so I had because we were considering going to an ECM pump the owner wanted an ECM pump and I ended up getting in touch with one of the engineers from geoflow and he started like doing calculations of math with me on the phone and he's like the payoff for the the ECM flow center would take like 15 years or 10 years or something like that the amperage is like only what an amp and a half two amps if you're lucky 220 pumps so or two you know so maybe not even an amp amp and a quarter they're they're worrying about the wrong thing they need to be focusing on the compressor I mean like the carrier one they had a soft start grand it was technically I don't remember who made that one carrier finally makes their own now but they had a soft start on there to bring the compressor on gently you know they've done all kinds of different things and most people say they're getting some hellacious savings out of it but you know in our area they range anywhere from 20 to 25 grand for the whole system but that's probably cheap compared to some places installed with the loops installed yeah welcome to the you never that would never happen here I'll tell you that yeah I mean the loop itself I think was probably a good probably eight grand or more to 10 grand something like that but yeah I think the the but they got 30 off me what's that they got 30 off so that was a lot of the reasoning I think go ahead I'm sorry no I was just gonna say that people around me I don't think like for the most part because unless I drive 45 minutes west where people are on propane they're just doing it to be green yeah you know they're it's kind of like because they could and it's people that have a lot of money and it's just like a more of a pain I think to have it installed because you're doing deep super deep wells because they're not on a lot of property the drilling costs an astronomical amount of money it's just I'm gonna get geothermal because they can because it's the best out there and that's red you know that's kind of what people do yeah for us I mean they're using excavators backhoes trenches whatever and that's how they're doing them around here because most time we only do people in town the closest well driller for that our supplier has a they bought a rig down in Cincinnati and it'll come all the way up here which is you know two and a half three hours away and uh they'll do it but I you know that rig truck I think was over a hundred thousand dollars I know a normal well drilling truck I think can cost over 300,000 so I I I believe it was well over a hundred thousand plus for that truck so you're gonna have to drink a lot of holes to make some money on that thing what are you missing with Clyde? Dunya. uh-huh what's going on Ryan how's it going out there buddy um what are we missing here you're not helping me out there you're supposed to be watching this thing for me I am you haven't had nothing come in that I've missed there's him if there's any if I miss anybody's questions just repeat it in caps if you would so uh then next thing I know I'm talking to you. Hamilton always sends me interesting items really like that he sees you know he'll run into he saw a um a heat pump water heater like an older not the new ream it was like something that sits on top of like almost like a storage tank but yeah he's always sending me cool things that he runs into yeah we've heard answer your question there how how long how long do I spend reading manuals I am horrible about reading manuals that's I was just telling him I bought that cool book refrigeration for ac text I've read like I actually started reading it I read like I don't know 20 30 pages or something and then I haven't gotten back to it because I've been busy doing these videos um generally what happens to me is I need to find it now and I am in such a hurry to find the answer that my mind is like I have I might as well as have ADD so um I start skipping around trying to find the answer and then I might as well just read the whole book from front to back because I've skipped around so much wasted so much time I never find it and my mind's going like I can't get time for this I got time for this and I I I almost just don't even bother because I have such a hell of a time trying to do it uh well that's what screwed me up on that uh climate master where I piped it backwards yeah yeah I just looked at the stickers yeah and they put the stickers wrong well it was just like I've never read the manual all the way through before but uh you know like some of them I like I've said this before they'll tell you how to properly pipe dope a pipe and how to properly glue a pipe I mean it's all in there on the good manuals and it's like holy crap I never know they did that so usually mustn't leave it all out so it's craziness um some some r134 a hole wants to know I love that name that's so funny um what do you guys think of sensei predict I'm not sure is that gasping what is that that's no sensei predict is the system I think Jim Bergman might have had a hand in it but it's like a bunch of sensors that you strap onto your system and you wire in uh to the line voltage and low voltage and you connect it to wi-fi and then it's constantly like when you it's best to install when you benchmark a system uh from new installation and then um basically it's monitoring everything at all times and they say you don't really need the regular maintenance on it it will tell you when you need maintenance or there's like a upcoming problem that is about to happen it will let you know because it's seeing all these temperatures pressures voltages uh power factor everything it looks at everything so it's the NSA for your heating unit exactly yeah that's you know I've always wondered about that I mean I've been wanting to do it to mine I've thought about buying that honeywell stat just because it sits there and has a discharge and return air sensor and it will will kind of tell you what the outdoor temperature was and what the temperature rise or drop was and it goes back I think well over a year telling you what the delta Ts were for all kinds of different situations which would be awesome and then you once you see what the term uh the the normal area is for it you can set your alarm status where you want it to alarm out if it runs for you know certain temperature for so many hours or time you know or whatever I'm like that's kind of cool because I mean you really think about it you can learn a lot off of just discharge and return temps I mean I have these little cps wi-fi or bluetooth little temperature humidity gauges and I threw one in my furnace I threw one on the in the supply side and I got thinking you know what when the thing quits heating the return air is going to pass through the heat exchanger and that's going to be the baseline for what it is at the worst and I sat there and just watched my unit cycle on cycle off and then it was peek up a little bit and then cycle on it was staying off for like 45 minutes and then coming back on running for a long time and I was kind of wondered you know you know I I um I didn't even know uh ecobee did like a report like a you know a run report or whatever and I found that out in that hvc 2.0 group uh we just had Nate Adams on a few weeks ago and uh he has like a whole system into sizing you know this and that and um I installed a bunch of ecobees in a job where it was like a three system job and I'm always like you're always skeptical we ran a manual j I actually paid a company it's a very big house we did and each system came in at a very low load and I was like you know how like you get it like you get the feeling in the pity your stomach it's like uh it's undersized I'm gonna this is under like I you get nervous let's go bigger right exactly so anyways but they require the load so I we installed the ecobees and I'm I'm kind of monitoring it now they don't know I have access to it but I'm like watching it and it's like never hitting second stage and they're 40 000 vtu furnaces which is incredible and you know that was what I was thinking about doing I I can get carrier equipment if I buy the good stuff I can get it cheaper than the uh company can buy it if you're gonna put it in your own house and I really like the infinity system and you literally can go in there and see every problem it's ever had and it keeps track of it date stamps at time stamps it and you know and you can look at it how many hours it ran in low stage how many hours it ran in high and just by going into that you can tell whether that system's either sized right or if it's been having issues it's I just love it and I half tempted to try to install it this week when I was setting around doing nothing so that would be neat to have that kind of information I installed my first ecobee last week and I think it was the number four or three it was the one itself for about two 200 bucks or 150 bucks our cost around 150 bucks I think it was 200 bucks I don't know I don't know if the three does the reports is well there was one above it that was like 250 our cost and it had voice activation it had the wireless sensors and also the craziness which I thought would be kind of neat to have but for me I hold constant temperature except for at night and then during the day and then it comes back up I only drop back two degrees I hold 70 during from like five o'clock in the evening till midnight and then drops to 68 for heat and then for coolings like 70 fluctuates between on the weather outdoors 75 to 73 something like that so because the humidity gets low and then I don't have enough problems so it's kind of weird Hunter what's enough you've used field piece meters yep you got a lot don't you I just got I only know that's the fluke won't you well I got field piece other stuff I've got like their pressure switch checker you know that one nobody had anything close to it for the most part for you know checking pressure switches so I've got that and I've had good luck with it I had their leak detectors and I don't have those no more the meters are just so big there's only thing I don't like about them but they're good equipment they're good company I use you know I'm selective on what I choose from them it's just certain things I got that's pretty good and other things I'm just not as happy with so I mean I don't like their gauges because they're so big I just I hate that humongous ass display it's just too big so you don't like I don't like them so dang big I mean the things look like I'm holding a tablet or something it's huge what so what do you use test those or what as much as I bet you're about the 550s yeah I use the test those just because they're small and compact I mean I love the size of them but you know I have like a vendetta against test those and it's just because like when test those came out when the first test though manifold came out I don't remember what model they were but like when my dad hit his company before I was running my company he bought like four or five of them and damn near every single one of them went bad within a like a month yeah and we had to warranty them they're like you want new ones we're like no you could take them back that's fine we don't it's cool you know I've got there uh come go ahead no it was just like everything I remember the hooks breaking I remember there being issues with there was something with the reading the temperature you have to like ground the thing in the beginning and it was like just goopy everything was very weird in the very beginning it sucked you know well mine had that freaking micron gauge and it never it went in like 100 100 micron increments or some crap and then you couldn't see that the pressure drop you know how you do the delta t compared to the temperature or what it was but when you started the test versus at the end that that works on the 550 but didn't work on my 557 because only when you were using it in bar or one of the other metric style type settings but you know I've got their um temperature uh humidity gauge uh digital sling crometer whatever from them and it's so delicate and the little my AAA batteries fall out of it I'm not happy with that um there's just you know I do own one I own a hot and a wire an anometer I've still not gotten that to work right that was a waste um for test though yeah any any of their small cheaper tools just don't seem like they're built tough they just they look cheap and they seem cheap they're delicate like a little dual pressure gauge they got that thing scared me to death they had that thing it looks so dainy and you know things like this big pressure switch tester yeah well yeah it's just a it's a dual pressure manometer they've had forever it just looks so dainy like man I just I can see how my my one for humidity you know I just don't feel as though it's you can see their high dollar stuff's good the cheap stuff you can just tell it's cheap and just I don't know I don't know you know as far as manifolds go uh I was on the digi-cool have you ever gotten into in the digi-cool at all I heard good things about them but they kind of made I don't know they kind of were ugly I'm weird I'm very particular about things it's like they ain't very pretty I don't like it so r134 a hole wants to know if you guys have a preference for a swaging tool the spin type versus the hydraulic type I've got to spin and I'm thinking right now I've got like over $500 to spend on tools before the end of the year and I just think about buying that freaking expanding tool the hill more the thing I notice on the hill more is it's got more options it goes all way up to two inches and something and all the way down to quarter inch nobody else has quarter inch and I do a lot of quarter inch I'm just trying to figure out is it worth spending $399 for the thing after discount and I'm like I don't know I found a cool TIG machine I like maybe buy and it's 800 I'm like half tempted to buy that and see if I can talk to company and you know tell them I'll use that for aluminum welding which are you saying hill more has the hill more has all those sizes in the hydraulic yeah it goes all the way up to two inches and something it's like stupid I can't believe I never knew they had it yeah she's asleep yeah whatever because I have I have the basic kit where it's like four heads in it three eight five eight three four and seven eights and they're like the smallest kit because it's kind of crappy because I looked at the CPS I looked at the Navik and I looked at that iWIS or whatever and the the Swiss or whatever it's the Chinese one they had good reviews that John HVAC guy I think did one on a review or something on it and I got looking at it and you can only buy it in like China right now oh JD thank you thanks JD you're the bomb diggity is that a pointer or a thumb or a number one thank you he's just saying I'm number one right I think that's what he said you saying you're number one oh that's awesome but yeah I mean that's what I kind of thinking about I'm like if you want to get the bigger head though to get that inch in an eighth and up to like an inch in uh there was an inch and eight or an inch and an eighth inch and three eighths inch and a half or something they start getting up to 100 150 $200 range for just that freaking expanding head so that's some bucks so I probably never buy that I'll be using a freaking in coupling before I did that but from little stuff I gotta say though this like all right so if you're looking at the actual cup the hub that it makes I don't have this spin I have the rector seal one I don't know what it's called but the rector seal model you got the one that has fits in your impact rectum no we're not supposed to use the the impact you're supposed to use a drill you're not supposed to use but it has the hexagon yeah shaft right but uh you have such a much deeper hub when you use the spin style swage you know so I mean I've seen them go offset it ain't always the prettiest but I mean I use it all the time on my quarter quarter inch for my um taps a lot of times I'll take the factory piece and I'll spend swage that puppy out and I'll use my uh one of my uh clamps or whatever to hold it and I use those all the freaking time so I'm almost like feeling like I'm wasting my money to spend that kind of money on it but I mean they gave us 200 bucks for Christmas and I still had like 300 and something on my tool account yet to spend and it's like well that was one of the few things I could think of getting I'm asking for a couple small things like another field piece temperature rail deal and I'd kind of like to get the dual pressure thing so wild west just came in and he wants to know um does anyone know if there's a bender that does one in one eighth copper or seven eights the max um seven eights wait seven eights max I think seven eights is the biggest my hill more goes up to I don't think anybody else is gonna you'd probably have to buy a dedicated one you could probably get one of those old imperial they still make them the imperial like gear benders and like two benders the big arm things you know you know how much balls it takes to bend that though and does it require a lube for spin swedges no no lube for the spin swedge it uses the friction to uh anneal the copper and to do it but you still should anneal the copper so I've tried it on the hard stuff it don't do real well apparently this this isn't choir boy approved because we're talking about shafts and hubs and rectums what the heck is what you have to maintenance being said as long as you're married you know the the christians are okay with the sex it was a gift you know so yeah I I really like bending copper you know I mean like the ridgely copper I like when I have a job where you have to use you're using unistrut and you're bending it I don't know there's like Joe uh Joe uses only fittings he doesn't bend any copper I enjoy the whole process of annealing the copper bending it I think it looks so sweet when it's done you know I mean it's yeah there's satisfaction to it for me I've had so many leaks from installs that I'm I try to have a fitting at the condenser unit and wanted the evaporator nothing in between and if I'm going to put one in between it I want that thing marked on the side of the furnace that hey FYI there's a coupling above the ceiling over by the bathroom you know because I don't know how many times I've had to look for a leak and can't find it in here they did a coupling and they slid the insulation over it and you'll never find it and it's just a tiny tiny little leak and so I always uh most of the things I do is usually because somebody screwed me in on a repair job and that's why I try to avoid it so that's the reason why I do some of the weird stuff I do yeah but like many times if you're brazing you're confident in brazing like like you don't really have to worry about joints you know I mean like I used to be neurotic about like I was the same way as you and I'd run like a 50 foot line set and try to have only two connections inside and outside and then I really like you know as you learn like if you know what you're doing brazing you do a good job you could have joints it's not a big deal have joints I know I mean it's just these these these things that I had problems with goes back to uh you know the Stabrite eight days because like when uh it the place I worked for prior to was just getting into brazing probably a few years towards the end there when like carriers started mandatory uh making you braze the stuff if they seen the Stabrite on it they were going to avoid warranties because guys were getting the flux all inside the line set and it was causing chemical reactions I guess with the polyester oil and so they were they were complaining about the guy's soft soldering and our company I worked for was really cheap and so they didn't want to provide torches because you know the guys could buy a hand torch for $40 and you know even though the freaking Stabrite was like 50 bucks a roll you know that was a lot of the reason so I had a lot of leaks when I first started on grant a lot of that goes back to the mid 90s worked my way forward but even you know through the early 2000s that you know they were still Stabrite and everything so that's why I had a lot of issues with it I just like you know when you're using Silphos like 15% we don't even use that where I'm at now the cheapest crap you can get Dynaflow that's it I mean I could feel pretty big I got some solder weld here that they sent me some aluminum stuff so I made a small video doing some aluminum welds and holy crap that copper copper saw and the other saw or whatever that stuff's pretty wicked I did a real crappy job at first and then once I talked to the owner on how to use it man that stuff is really freaking good I did a copper to aluminum joint I drilled a hole in the copper and stuck the aluminum into it and soldered that baby shut it's a great solder slash braze whatever that stuff is pretty wicked I am really impressed I did the video kind of looks crappy so I'm gonna redo it and like show some cool stuff but I literally punched holes in the copper or in the aluminum flipped it upside down and purposely did my repair upside down I did it vertical I did all the crappy positions that you would normally have to make a repair in and only in the beginning did I burn through but for the most part everything looked really really good once I knew the right technique to use so I'm hoping to make a video on that they sent me some some goodies to try out I'm a little late in the game I know that everybody's already done their their videos on it but I've been wanting to find out how good it is and so far it looks really good so well I'd like to try a solder I think yeah I'll just email him that's what I did and so they they sent me a little something to try out I mean it was some sample packs but it was a pretty nice sample pack so they sent me some of that 56% they sent me not only got one stick of that and I got like three sticks of the aluminum three sticks of the copper to aluminum a few of the fives I don't know if they gave me the 15 or not maybe was the 15 not the fives but the I literally have the owner's cell phone number so I'm literally he goes you want to text me whatever you know I started sending my pictures I did and stuff like that and it was like you know he just said you know that when you're doing aluminum what you end up doing is opposite of what you're used to you know you're used to doing your base metal first and pulling into the joint with the aluminum you literally put the heat directly onto the rod in onto the aluminum that was the thing I was doing wrong and once I started doing it the way he said it it's like oh and then their flux is really interesting too you heat the rod up and then dip the rod in this powder it looks like freaking powder sugar and then you put that rod over top the aluminum and you can see it like absorb into the aluminum and you can see it change and then that's your flux and boom it's it flows like you wouldn't believe so JD says he has a suggestion you should do a call-in show he said just so I can say long-time listener first-time caller okay I'm wondering if he's a bank cow fan huh bank cow who like a radio guy I like he was he's across the country not everywhere but that's like everyone would say that long-time listener first-time caller xm radio yeah I hear people do it all the time and yet when I call a radio station I usually am like uh uh uh because you're like thinking what you want to say and it doesn't come to your mind and then you blank out and then it's just like you gotta you just gotta relax and that's what happens every time I do all these freaking videos at the end there I'm not using a script and I'm like trying to get all this done in one recording and it never fails something goes wrong whatever and then I start over and when I try to do it again and again it just goes worse and worse tell me your google number um it was on the computer but you peeled it off oh I didn't know what that's that's what it was let's see yeah you're gonna take colors right now I could we can I thought about it let's just have some where's my better plug at because if we're gonna bring somebody on the phone I want to have a better connection than this bluetooth thing through your butt plug bluetooth is pretty good that's the only thing I've ever used I when you use well she is sleeping like she is she sleeps so hard me and you guys she sleeps like I do and maybe she'll walk over to it let me see if I've got my you moved it didn't you I didn't do it yeah you did no it was up here I when I got this thing I I sent them the 20 bucks and they sent me all kinds of goodies what momentum for yeah right I found it here hold on a second let me see setting no it's it's it's phone plug to 3.5 millimeter here it is here's my number I've not had to change it yet so I may have to change it after this however it's like if you don't leave it open it don't ring right which is kind of corn ball so here let me yeah right yeah it's right there what are you gonna do like type it out we can be like have this ready to go yeah then everybody's gonna call it and then I'll have to like change it and it's like 937 blah blah blah I was always struggling with this people just keep calling when you're on the phone you're like no stop it and I don't think can you turn the call waiting off because I don't think you can no that's the whole thing and like it's impossible to get a phone without call waiting because I was just in tears are you well nobody's could be nice to Joe and take care of these people hold on here Laura you're so helpful you're like going to get cords you find the stuff you know that's because I'm the one who put it away up here 134 a hole yeah all right that's a great that's a great name that's why I gave him 15 extra loyalty zip screws because I like the name yeah oh and you're supposed to use your radio voice all right if you like to call in make sure you dial 937 589 3780 that number again 937 589 3780 make those calls yeah you have the channel turned up what's that is the channel it's plugged into turned off uh you know what where's that one yeah it's right here this ham ham said that was pretty good babe well you know he did DJ for 20 some years people yeah um um let's see here I put the number in the chat huh you're old I started when I was I started running sound when I was 14 I started DJ when I was 16 and I did it from 1991 till 2011 he's 45 and I still have the freaking speakers when there's one set of Mackie's over there and that's what this TV's mounted on is my trussing system I mean that's why everybody thinks I'm blunt she likes to say I'm blind but hell the TV's like freaking six feet away and the TV's only this big so I mean I stole it out of the kitchen because we you know I'm so cheap we don't even have cable in all the house because you got a box on every one of them I'm tired of getting screwed it's funny when uh my wife is three years older than me but I'm like I always like throw jabs at her all the time like you know when you were in high school and this Led Zeppelin CD came out or album came out uh you know where you at you have like memories on it you know I always do that kind of thing see I was in rap believe it or not so I remember the baby got back and you know freaking all the other ones yeah all the good stuff yeah we'll see whether or not because I'm assuming if I leave the phone up because before it wouldn't ring which is kind of weird do you have to get out of the settings no that's why I got it open like I got it because I'm assuming that this is where it would be at so too bad I don't have the ring banana phone thing so who wanted to call JD did JD let's get on the ball bud dial those digits let's stage fright that's what I was gonna say yeah oh my god I didn't keep doing it yeah something reminds you of one of those songs that mr postman or something crazy you know so you guys have all the you're like ready with your sound effects that's because I put like seven banks of different sounds on there I had a little good way to push back and forth between banks I don't even remember how yeah there's well oh my god you did have more in you there's eight banks in there and there's probably more than that so it's like and you got to understand all the freaking music I paid for oh my god I was in a subscription so they sent me for a while there I had a real fancy subscription and I was getting like five CDs a month and it was stuff that was like way before it was even ready to be released on the radio so I'd have it away way ahead of time Hamilton said to see roll to the cotton candy sweetie go let me see that to see roll yep use your voice and then he said boop there it is tag team back again yep do you remember that song from like 1991 ish everybody dance now cnc music factory rick knows his I know my hip hop that's what I did I mean you know I wasn't into rock back that much but you know I definitely knew my hip hop and stuff that's the fun stuff to dance to but it's not something I want to listen to when I'm like freaking stressed out trying to figure out something though oh come on JD's thinking of a question you don't need a question just call in dude do you think we got anything planned out here this is about as amateur hours you could ask for I mean that's why we're just hanging out well at least you got four of you to bounce things off of so thank god you came in because otherwise I told her I said if if no one comes in we'll just gonna do this thing for a half an hour or an hour Sam says you need to do a whole stream with your radio voice people you know honestly from you know I have a few guys that helped me get started in the beginning that actually DJ plus were on the radio and one of the things they taught was to not do that because once you get into that you have to keep it forever and the last thing people want to hear is how you doing god this is Rick here on the radio playing your favorite hits today and tomorrow and I'm just going to keep on talking like you wouldn't believe it that's right sub back relax as we listen to the super heat sub cooling channel you know it just people want to hear that crap they'll get annoyed by it and there was a guy on the radio that used to do that and it was just like drove him nuts so yeah god blessed me with a gift of gab yeah yeah so I can talk a woman under the table any day uh-huh that's why I'm so quiet he talks for both of us yeah right right well well Joe don't want to call in fine whatever JD whatever that's whatever that's fine dude that's okay I'm all right with that so are we going um ASMR no no and nobody's answering my poll question what's your coal question my poll question is whether or not you like pineapple on pizza we had pineapple on the chicken chunks that was good mm-hmm they had dominoes so you know the radio but you do have to turn down the youtube yeah you have to like turn down your whatever you're watching the youtube on because it'll do this really bad like yeah there's gonna be a delay so just basically pick up the phone and just talk to us like you would on the regular phone but walk away from your computer or turn your computer down because otherwise it's gonna recirculate you're basically it's gonna be echo city so oh and it'll confuse you probably it's gonna be there's gonna be a delay no matter what so if you hear yourself starting to talk it'll be probably anywhere from 10 to 20 30 seconds delay and it'll totally screw with you and you'll have a heck of a time trying to keep up yeah it's really weird yeah because i mean you figure it's going from my little computer to the little mixer back to my computer not the pole into town to china then over to russia and over to france and then coming back back to china there's a chicago pizza place called home run in and they sell frozen pizzas too but they have a pizza called sweet caliente and it is pepperoni uh jalapenos and pineapple and it is so good sounds like it is a deep dish no it's thin crust it's so good ain't pizza the chicago supposed to be deep uh there's like a split chicago that's like i think a misnomer misconception about chicago there's like a good amount of chicago pizza there is very thin crust and there's deep dish as well too got yeah because why is it new york we did uh did some of it and it was i think was huge i mean everything in new york was stupid expensive but i mean that baby it was a big piece and granted you know you got you got some some meat there and it was pretty good but theirs was thinner but you know it was it was kind of cool i kind of liked it that was that david g saying chicago is deep dish not all chicago my favorite chicago pizza is actually not deep dish my favorite chicago pizza which i think anyone would love is fox's pizza on the south side of chicago um on western avenue it's thin crust pizza sausage and mushroom i i could eat that seven days a week best pizza ever yeah i i've always liked the thicker but now you know kind of been shooting for thinner just because it's less well you're just cranking it out there i like anytime i go to chicago we um mama and i always go and eat it guineris that's our favorite what is it guineris where is it at i don't know by somewhere off michigan avenue where the big humongous mall is is it is a deep dish or is it yeah they have deep dish oh oh we gotta call our house and let's see how this goes here turn this up caller number one you are live yeah i'd like to order a large pizza with pepperoni extra cheese all right name please it's uh ryan man ryan what's up ryan what's going on man it's pennsylvania cheater neighborhood how's it going buddy oh dude just hanging out enjoying the show has gotten younger for people man yeah this is ryan he's a huge man he's up in a thousand finally yeah congratulations there man thanks how do you like your s-man ryan i enjoy it man i used it a few times so far and i'm now that winner's here i'm gonna pull it down into the basement and play around with it a little bit but uh yeah i like it i've done a couple of repairs league searches and used it i i i love it man i appreciate it nice nice can you tell how lifelike it sounds i mean does it sound lifelike over there with you adam on my oh yeah like you like ryan's voice does it sound like it's like boom like it sounds like it's here it's good how we i got another one coming in i am in the driveway rick oh well that makes it sound better when you're in driveway i'm wondering if this other person is this you think it's other one here actually could probably do two people you want to talk about some confusing crap watch this do we do multiples caller number two you're live hey what's going on man not a whole lot who's this jd jd hey i can merge you with ryan hold on a second do it all right we're doing conference call uh ryan you there one plus two is three i'm here sweetness now we got like two people on the fog this is badass i love it so jd uh thanks for calling go ahead with your statement i don't know if i have a statement just call him to say hi i'm just doing all right how bad i was hoping you're going to do it caller first time caller long time listener oh oh right yeah yeah long time listener first time caller i had a question about short cycling sure like what um i don't know like uh so i have a system where the um it's intermittent it um um of course you know the inducer comes on and then um it drops off the inducer comes on drops off and then it doesn't happen for a while and then it cycles through all safety checks and does everything it's supposed to do it at night and it works after that so basically it doesn't even try to ignite no it just the inducer motor comes on it'll cycle like 10 times and then it'll shut shut it's all off are you checking pressure switch when it shuts off it's a pressure switch still made can you yeah they call the connections are tight and everything but i mean are you are you is the pressure switch closed when uh when the inducer shoots off what that's why i was wondering you know for like me i had basically it does it run fine then four or five times is what you're saying or there's times where the inducer comes on it doesn't do nothing it shuts back off it comes back on it shuts back off and then eventually it takes off and runs like it should exactly what i do is i jump the thermostat out first to eliminate all possible wiring issues and then i start working my way from there so i mean that's what john McMaster he said power stealing t-sat maybe and then weaver is going with the old leaf in the intake could be what kind of brand furnace is it uh the intake is clear because it's on the side of that building what uh what kind of furnace is it it's like a um train american standard that's your stuff adam i would i would definitely check with a manometer so there's an intake and an exhaust right it's a two pipe system yep it's a two pipe system but the uh it goes into like one there's only one vented intake on the outside it's like a cone oh it's got like a concentric kind of sort concentric i would i would definitely check to see like uh check the pressure switch with your manometer you need to reference the burner box right when you're checking the pressure switch on a dual um and i would look at what the pressure switch is rated at am i wrong rick is this commercial or is it residential okay because i mean i said it was outside or something that's why i wanted i would basically test the pressure switch make sure it's actually making on the pressure switch i don't think yes take the collector box off you know the burner box off for the pressure now you do for gas but not usually for the pressure switch because it's going to be whatever it sees whatever it sees but yeah i would i definitely put you at the natural gas system okay i put a t in between there and maybe if you got a good fast meter put put your probes across the uh pressure switch just to see if it's opening up and closing intermittently possibly and make sure you got enough draft on that pressure switch to kind of get started there and other than that to make sure your power coming in the board's constant nothing's dropping out make sure your ground's good can i have a board starting to fail or something's what it sounds like it's old yeah it's an old system it's like probably like 13 to 15 years old that's brand new they don't get old till it's 25 or 30 years you get alligator clips and put it across the pressure switch and just verify you have if it's closed or open the entire time on the call as it's failing right and if it's falling out or not that'd be a smart way just eliminate it from the circuit once it's running and jump it and then you can start seeing whether it goes away i mean my old manager used to be able to diagnose whole freaking furnace with the gator clip not even use a meter so that's what i do yeah i have is a t5 600 so i don't have any fancy equipment yet that's fine you don't need it just gotta just mainly pay attention to what's going on to it and look for the little clues that's the biggest thing listen to what any weird noises that change you know things that didn't used to do but you know you can start eliminating it if you don't have a pressure switch checker i mean you can you know uh you could jump it and see if it's okay well you can just use a hose with water in it yeah i mean it's gonna be hard i mean that's not the most accurate thing because it might be like 0.25 or 0.35 or something like that i know the condensate that clogged a couple summers back and it flooded so maybe water got in there or something that's awesome oh i'm giving john extra points for that comment what do you think ryan you're kind of a trained guy too aren't you uh yeah i've worked on a few i'd make sure that the you know all the drain systems working right not backing up into the venter motor i don't know it sounds like it's coming on and coming off yeah do you hear anything what's that i was gonna say does do you hear any swishing noises in the draft motor when it comes on no no it's just ramps up and then drops off and ramps up and drops off and ramps up what is the model of the furnace do you know what is the first three letters of the furnace oh um want to be interesting let's go see want to be interesting to have like all of us on the phone as you're trying to diagnose something that you're not real familiar with and everybody's like well have you checked this yeah check this check that call in no pressure yeah everybody's like well on my professional opinion we have this have you turned it off and turned it back on again oh yeah i totally did that i turned it off on the switch i turned it off with every step yeah i think adam's right you just have to make sure the pressure switch is is closing you know it sounds like something's going on with either the venting or the pressure switch in my opinion yeah just get your handy dandy jumper out and work your way around you could i mean anyway at rick yes sir how long on that pizza man um should be there in 20 to 25 minutes i need to get your credit card number real quick here yeah we need to let me pull that out i'm gonna go guys hey nice show all right thanks ryan thanks for having a good one ryan uh tx co6 what is it t as in tom x as an x-ray c as in charlie txc txc manufacturing date of 304 and that's a 90 plus see i'm trying to remember what it like i'm txc don't sound familiar but i'm not good with train far as their numbers so that's uh it's an american standard the train company i found the manual it's a txc american standard it should be an ax like but that doesn't even sound like a package unit it ain't a package unit is it no it's uh no it's got a condenser outside and that's a split system you're saying it's a tom sam's early tsc txc if it happens all great charlie yeah she found the wrong one when you first started up and it happens all the time in the beginning when you're first starting the cycle i would jump her let the inducer start pull the wires off the pressure switch then jump the wires going to the pressure switch after the inducer starts how many wires do you have two or three i'm not opening it all up right okay yeah because i mean you gotta find out and it's cold out so i'm not going to set it off sure so i mean that's what i was wondering if you have two or three i mean if you get two you're obviously probably going to close them but if it's three you're going to find out which one's your common and which one's your normally open and normally close and then i want to jump the normally open yeah normally open yeah yeah normally open when you're going to jump that one because it'll be closed when it's running yeah and then i got there's two other units that run off of uh boilers that's true he's never uh john McMaster says he's never seen a pressure switch caused the inducer to stop running i would probably keep on that i would say it's probably the circuit board or something in the venting but the venting would be a result of the pressure switch opening and closing right so and when it cuts in and cuts out does it seem like it's timed in a certain duration like it runs for so long and it drops out in about the same amount of time every time or is it kind of random yeah definitely timed yeah it's timed so there's something going through its safety checks and then it drops off before it ignites yeah yeah that's probably what's going on i would try jumping that that switch you really need a metameter to be on my numb yeah you need the check recommend a metameter i love that that's my favorite but that's one field piece is probably got the cheapest one that's pretty decent the one basically i one i got without the pump built into it and i think that one's only like 100 130 i think or something like that it wasn't too bad so are you new in the field or yeah i'm not i'm not no yeah i'm i'm not in the field anymore i was in the field of the maintenance tech and then i got pulled into the office and then due to the shortage of hvac techs and in our company they um because i work for like a giant facilities company it's like a global thing and then all right they're pulling people out of the offices to go to the tech school oh that's cool i figured yeah i want to hurt that a year back i decided that maybe i should get off my ass and go back into the field yeah are you fairly younger i'll take it yeah somebody's paying this bill heck yeah man i mean nowadays they're getting stupid yeah it's like ten g's i don't have to pay for so heck it was 11 grand when i went back in 95 and that that was freaking cheap compared to what the other schools were i'm here and some of these kids are spending 25 30 i'm not like i'm not like super old but i'm not like you hung so i probably would end up at a contracted site and then just be responsible for the maintenance under the chief engineer for a while sure are you done wrong with that you can't they can't take away education and it just makes you more valuable for later nothing wrong with that well i appreciate it i'm not in the field that right now but i i do go out and like i have a lot of friends and stuff that are in the business and you know i go out and service calls once in a while on on-site jobs and stuff like that i was an electrician for a couple of years okay yeah you gotta be well rounded definitely for to be a good maintenance guy and you gotta learn how to do plumbing electrical heating a little everything drywall with you name it carpentry yeah no enough to be dangerous yep you're not wrong that at all if you have a decent multimeter and or if you pick up a metameter i'll help you out you know i'm sure rick would help you too but if you want to email hvac over time a gmail i'll help you out try to figure it out yeah all right yeah i got it all i have for test equipment right now is like my old t5 600 which is a fluke product t5 oh that's the uh little uh one with open clamp open clamp yeah open clamp on top yep there's continuity voltage dc it's a basic meter but it works i did that i use that one forever i mean i don't i don't think it has capacity that's why i've been asking so many questions in the feed about tools and stuff because i have a lot of my old electrical stuff but which translates pretty well into the hvac but when it comes to um no gauges and metameters that's not the fastest meter in the world so if it's like randomly like you know cutting out just a little bit and that switch it may not catch it the sample rates a little slow but because even like my fc or my 902 is not real super fast i mean it it like makes sure the stuff's right before it displays it and it you know it may not catch it but if you jump it you should be good accuracy is good yeah they actually fine it just ain't fast i mean it's not made it's not you know made to be of that type of meter i was looking at the field piece sd480 as a meter that's what i don't really know i don't have enough documentation on the school portion to find out what kind of stuff they give you as part of the program or what you need to yeah i would i'd be curious if they make you buy it because i've heard that some of these schools will like set you up with whatever and it sometimes ain't what you really would want and stuff and but if they're going to pay for it and that's the only way to get it then i'd take whatever you can get but you know the 116 is a nice little meter john was talking about i've got the 117 which is the electrician version and i only got that because i got it cheap on online like mint condition i got it for like 70 bucks or something but that thing does really good yeah the package deal i was looking at which is the 116 and then it comes with the 62 max thermometer yep that's that's a nice little setup i mean it's it basically you're gonna have two meters one the bench tops got all your fine adjustment type stuff and then the clamp meters got you know the amps and some of the other basic stuff on it so i mean it's a good combo ain't nothing wrong with that at all i mean that little 112 i got back there same thing as this 116 except it's missing a couple things but i use that for my generators for as long as forever so and it did good and that was only 130 meter so that is still good yep cool well i'm gonna get you off here that way we can get back into a few things here because i don't you know we're already at 10 o'clock here thanks for calling in here and thank you for all your super chats all the time yep you're the bomb thank you coffee i know overtime coffee yeah you're not wrong that man i appreciate it all right have a good night thank you you're welcome catch you later bye bye so that's cool i've never done that before it worked out good so that was pretty cool oh i always wonder what people sound like you know what's that i think i got the corona i'm sneezing you might i coughed on the mic on purpose because i i want to share the love uh and that's bless you because someone else said i hope adam isn't getting covid yeah i'm a beard protection from it accurately jeff the maintenance man he's like adam got covid it is a digital nice it's a freaking computer virus i'm telling you in the house yeah i go on call tomorrow so luckily because this computer can log in through our work computer which logs into the grocery stores i get the corporate fancy antivirus thing and it's always blocking something from trying to get into my computer yeah it always which reminds me i need to get back in there and test it out nothing like figuring this stuff out at two in the morning you got to wake somebody up hey uh here's what's going on um i called the store talked to the manager says been doing it since like six o'clock tonight and now it's two in the morning and uh the rack's down do you want me just to reset it or you want me to go up there and check it out it's only an hour and a half drive oh okay great so all right so i am looking forward to that tomorrow cannot wait which usually happens on wednesdays or something like that so i love those balls when they're like uh they call you on friday at like five o'clock like this is emergency we need you out right now yeah and uh when did you start noticing there was an issue on wednesday you're better off not to ask it's just going to tick you off it never fails never fails and or or it would be a factory that calls and they just got their second or third shift came in now it's like 12 30 they got in there at 11 but they're calling you at 12 30 and you finally have taken your clothes off hopped in bed because you thought i've stayed prepared all night kept my uniform on and you hop in bed and all of a sudden it's ring ring and it's like you've got to be flipping kidding me i waited all this time ready to go and now that i'm not boom you call it never fails usually on thursdays that's usually when i get i'll start we start on mondays and we finish on you know monday morning so i cannot wait oh you what that's not for the coil the model gd's saying that's a coil model number yeah it's greek to me that's a train coil model number yeah it's probably gonna be inside the furnace got it cased on cased one to one and a half yeah that's an evaporator well this is what came up when you put that in google well he knows the stuff just like me google stuff if it's train american standard you got me yeah i ain't the now if it's a linux you can throw any g number out there and i can tell you which one it is you know no big deal numbers ain't number g thing baby so well you gotta take off the top door of the furnace and look at the sticker on the inside yeah which is always interesting five ton coil oh yeah what was the 60 in it yeah 61 so they go a little bit over 60 do they when they do their numbers a little bit bigger than what you'd round it to well they would have a 60 and then they would have a 61 they change it based on sear rating okay so the six tells you it's five ton and then the one probably tells you it's a higher efficiency yep okay yep interesting dizzy good night buddy thanks for hanging out with us tonight appreciate it i tried to get someone to call and talk nerdy to us and put the phone number but nobody's calling oh well they might unless i don't know if this phone has to keep like um freaking up i mean i've got the program open but you know would you like i put that talk nerdy to us john McMaster seemed like he's a very smart dude he'd be cool to talk to you why don't you call in john and call us just call the hit lines there on the display whatever it was call us a 937 589 3780 called hit lines and dazzle us with your knowledge intriguing minds would like to know that's right poll is going on from pineapple but you're doing that craziness i call but i'm afraid of i'd bore or annoy rick i doubt it it depends it just depends i'm pretty good but i just don't want to bore the people out there that's the only thing that's why i kind of um i don't want to keep people in there too long i want people get all irritated that you kept somebody on there too long but someone else said john call in now everybody type john call now and let him know that you're behind him 100 percent everybody on here is the cool crew and they're all behind you john you can do it bud it'll be all right we know you are so just feel free to reach out to us and call that hit line jd there we go john now he did that we haven't seen you all night rich should call in rich is also a super smart guy rich is like the freaking guru i like that might have to bring that and drop in there a little louder there so yeah samu said rick's h back help call now yeah and that'd be great become a subscriber to the show and we'll give you two free phone calls for technical service up to five minutes uh i uh i yeah we talked about that last week dimmond i had the sister on and how i thought about doing a uh sorry fellas gonna crank john i'm giving you more points for that because that is hilarious hey at least you're honest dude i'm a pipe guy i want rich to come on over time i really want rich to come on over time even if he calls it i would like to have rich come on rich is a super you should call in rich we don't discriminate here yeah i mean i'm not even each back and i'm on i mean it's keeping people interested obviously they want to hear it because they haven't dropped off yet so call in you know you want to you know you want to just go ahead me and rich will like like talk to each other and then like before you know what i've been talking to him for like three hours through text message you know oh you've talked to him already i talked to rich all time rich is the one who sent me that metal side oh oh oh yeah that's some cool ass stuff i want him to be my friend too call us i need friends nobody likes me here all my friends are online you see that bill why don't you call in are you coming out your beard or braiding it for tomorrow can you put that thing into a man bun we've seen some other guy do that i watched a video on some guy putting his long beard into a man bud yeah he greased it up you know got it all lavered and then freaking rolled that crap for if he wanted to do an interview and it you couldn't even see not as long as you didn't look from the bottom up then you could see it that was some craziness we have no idea gil gil could call it yeah i know gil you could call him why have you look at that i got somebody calling in here we go let's let's bring him up thanks for calling the show who are we speaking to you guess who rich rich what's going on buddy how are you doing i don't buddy i am living dreams like nobody's business hello this is deep rich the rich i talked to and uh like three four times a week so you're a metal worker or is that a hobby of yours yes have you uh now metal work for 40 years i was looking at a machine prime weld have you seen the prime weld 255 uh tig welder it's got some really good reviews and i'm thinking about getting it's like 800 bucks now grand i don't want to spend $2,000 on a miller or a uh lincoln so i mean and i'm you know i'm amateur so well you know the thing with the lake is ac dc which means you can do a woman or whether that's what i want and this this freaking one for 800 bucks actually comes with an american tig uh handle which i guess is like a $200 one right and uh from what i'm seeing i mean they they laid out some beads with the lincoln in the miller both and you know my dad was a welder for the the lime army tank plant and basically he uh you know he didn't do a lot of tig he did more armor and stuff like that so i mean he did like spray and all kinds of weird ass stuff to make armor so he didn't do a bunch of tig but you know that's my only teacher to kind of get on it and i had a cheap inverter not an inverter it was a transformer style and it didn't go so well so i got rid of it what are you doing no so have you ever seen it do you know what i'm talking about no i haven't seen it okay yeah i think it's a fairly newer one a lot of a lot of other stuff a lot of other stuff and the only lincoln i have is actually the square wave 200 okay yeah because i looked at the lincoln because that's what i've got from my wire welder i have a a mig and i've had that thing for a long time and it's so it's 120 volt and it i've built a trailer i built all kinds of stuff it does great dad dad told me you know yeah you can't do super thick but you can do multiple passes and you know that's what i've done and that's what they even did with a big thick armor plating stuff so it's served me well it's made all those ladder cranes and everything else so yeah i don't know i was just doing some research on it when you get to the thicker stuff that all you have to really change your gas yeah like 98 to pretty steel and you can actually do the thicker stuff because he gets hotter yeah and it's capable of doing a stick which i know that'll give you a little more heat too um oh yeah i've never i haven't really done stick though since a kid and even then i i didn't know what i was doing so i mean this is like in single digits age but you know rick i have to send you some of the stuff that rich works on it's incredible and his work is like second to none and then that's mainly what you do is just metal work and then hfax just kind of a something you're interested in or how's this work he's a predator i was in hfax since uh basically got out of high school okay but you're more in the plumbing side of things really really long time ago yeah i'm actually a pipe guy okay but i stay with the hfax stuff because i do uh specialty hfax systems mainly computer rooms okay so you like stainless steel and stuff like that oh god yeah okay stainless is uh all every day okay but with the computer rooms it's mainly controlled humidity so you drop the dew point down way low and then we do re re-coils afterwards okay so you're not just welding all the time you're doing actually hfax equipment too on top of that oh yeah oh yeah sweet it's it's a hobby but it's a good hobby yeah i can't complain it's been good to me what state you in yeah Pennsylvania Pennsylvania oh okay so yeah you're just horizontal right next door right next door yep i mean granted i'm on the west side but yeah it's that's cool that's cool i told rich i want to go to pennsylvania i want to run the stairs run the what the stairs man the stairs you gotta run all the rocky stairs oh yeah the rocky stairs oh christ you're only 20 minutes from me wow yeah i'm just that i'm just outside of god yeah yeah we got a little plasma table at our workplace i mean we use it for duck work and stuff that can like cut out you know nothing fancy super great but it's a northern i think it's one of those cheaper ones but it works i was kind of surprised when i seen it but well yeah that's cool man we have a flow flow five by 12 water jet and i actually have a two by four torch make system that i bought for shutdown work to just take it out set it up and if you need something cut you cut it by your doing shutdown work and the way you go really it's pretty neat pretty probably towards me was it was bought out by Lincoln and literally overnight it went from it was 1700 to 69 95 so when Lincoln when Lincoln bought them out they really elevated the price did they improve the quality though not at all you got a kitten wow not at all now they got better with it now but when they first did it it was like you know same thing the triple in price overnight yeah i don't is Lincoln stuff still made in in Cleveland or whatever yep okay yep because that's what worried me about this this other one i was looking at is they actually are out of New Jersey but you know it's made in china but they give you a three-year warranty and i guess supposedly i mean you know you can't compare it i mean if i was it'd be like us i mean like that one cheap little electrical meter um the u u u u e i or the u u l i it's not a u e i but it's a it's another one it's like $40 and this thing was just as accurate as my fluke and my amp probe on dc and ac and it was a $40 meter so i mean you can get lucky and get some stuff that you know they basically didn't get there didn't rape you for it and i'm sure you're running the same thing every now and again so it was a lot yeah you just gotta gotta dig through the trash to find the right one and that's that's kind of i don't know i don't need it i'm probably never gonna play with it much and probably a waste of money and that's why i'm kind of like i don't know if i should waste the money on it or not especially it's christmas time too so i don't know i hear you guys i just get something in my all right guys i just forgot to call it and entertain you for a couple minutes awesome man i appreciate you calling in i appreciate it a lot hey rich thanks guys yep smoke tires for me yeah go do that again i don't hear you i said smoke the tires once for me will you have some of you keep cutting out oh look a tire or something yeah i said smoke the tires once for me look tires okay i put her to bed this morning probably till april which breaks my heart so anyway all right all good guys thanks for what you're doing good good talking to rich have a good night guys thanks a lot man have a good night so rich has we just freaking car ever what's it got now look at his name gt 350 r gt 350 gt 350 r the shelby cobra oh wow yeah i heard some screaming of the dogs i figured they were fighting that's what i was wondering yeah she she's like a little fighter it's ridiculous she she grew up with bigger dogs and she is not afraid of anything and i mean she comes in there and they might be in a humongous fight and she just gets right in there and getting them apart sometimes ain't easy so and then he always ended up getting hurt that's great so thank you you'd be good enough to be a wife rich is an awesome guy sounds like a good guy can't say that about me but you know it's all good i'm looking forward to the day where hopefully at some point we could all get together at a central location you know like an hr or whatever that's what i was hoping for this freaking january but no chinese virus had to screw us which you know this i thought about just riding the bike out and come hang out for a couple days or something you know because i mean i can be there as quick as probably anywhere from three and a half four hours just depend on where at so i mean i can i've been in my buddy's house just outside of madison and freaking six and a half or six hours before so they don't take that long and i'm used to like when i go riding the off-road vehicles and stuff i mean we'll drive five and a half six hours just you know to go freaking ride for a day or two so you gotta bring Laura though i suppose we could we get like do i have to yeah of course then she wouldn't want to ride the bike though she won't ride that so i can't of course you know she said she'd ride my dad's spider so i mean i could probably get her to go on that but then she'd probably whine and complain about that too though it's hard to say but yeah it's cool stuff so are we at here we at uh 10 30 so we're coming up almost on our second hour here already but gill said he was gonna come on gill if you want to come on real quick man let's uh that's i'm trying to get him the link oh you should just send your messenger well i can't did you spell just his name right you want me to send the link she's about got it i think well he wants me to email it to him it's in fact uncensored i just can't spell uncensored so there you go it'd be cool if ac companies did ride alongs you know if you can get around the insurance issues of it they probably you know it would be kind of interesting i mean i know the cops do it but nowadays i don't know if you'd want to freaking shot while you're just riding around with them but uh come on gill come on i'm trying to you hurry it up well i'm it's not working very well because i don't like your phone you just gotta go into google's top left corner i gotta get the thing first you just gotta type in the address and send it here i can do it through i think i think i have him on the messenger i yes i did that but that doesn't work just hold on there bud yeah i got this adam will have it there before you get it because i hate your phone gill i texted it to your phone yeah himmelton that'd be awesome man i know dad's trying to get me to go down there to the dragon tail to ride the bike down there which we were hoping to try to squeeze that in this year but it didn't happen i want to get a uh uh no we're Baptist so we we do a lot of crazy stuff so now our our church was in session our pastor's even got freaking had covid then he got pneumonia so he's not even in there right now almost everybody in church got the covid so i didn't go last week and i didn't go today because of it but you know we got online stuff they went they dropped down from you know we're capable on average of six hundred seven or people and it dropped down to like a hundred last week because of all what's going on so yeah what are you doing there i mean he's gonna come in probably through through the actual new you you got it set up for three people i don't need to are you sure yeah because remember we're doing a whole screen capture now because i'm cheating whatever i'm getting the whole at this whole big area is that how you do yours i'm just a whole big one monster screen i do now it's like portions yeah but then i realized how much work it was and i said screw it yeah and i've kind of wondered about it too because i mean the she designed this and i like that i love my name at the bottom and then my target at the top right but the i don't know how important it is to have the um the talk there on the screen with it i think it eats up too much valuable information because they can't see our beautiful faces so because nowadays it's lately been pretty quick now that you know we're using stream labs there to get it to come up ham wants to know what kind of bike you've got i have an fjr 1300 it's a 2015 1300 uh it's basically a mix between a crotch rocket and a street bike so i mean it's got saddlebags on the side that pop off i take them off it actually looks like a crotch rocket it's got a front windshield goes up and down it's pretty cool s bike i like it old man's crotch rocket yeah it's what she approved of but it'll do between 140 and 160 it will get it i i was very surprised when you put it in sports mode it uh detecting arizona believe it or not i was actually going to be a cop so yeah uh they was twist up between that electronics and then end up going to the hvac so yeah rich is teaching me stuff all the time i talk to rich like weekly if bi-weekly tri-weekly quad weekly whatever the last thing i learned from rich man i'm just i'm looking at my text message from rich ready um you on he's laughing in the comments already one where we at here you are not allowed to use bushings and gas pipe did you know that to like sleeve it just period you're not allowed to use bushings and gas pipe oh to reduce it basically to reduce yeah you're not allowed to use bushings i've never used the reef is because you're not you can never be sure if it's malleable iron or cast iron and using it in doing so because cast iron is not compatible with natural gas cast iron eight yep how's that because all the old burners used to be cast iron i think with piping yeah but the gas is traveling through it and it's burning out of it but probably because it's open with the shutter that maybe it airs out so it doesn't hurt it i wonder i don't know i've never heard that he already said no bushings yeah what look what he says that i don't know there's probably all kinds of things that we don't know about that you know we just do it and it's never been an issue but it may not be by the book or flow is what joe corvin said yeah and it's not that often where you know i would have to know something like that so yeah i feel like i learned something on a weekly basis from him though like if you see his work this dude is pristine richard awesome he makes the craziest crap so that'd be neat to which for me doing what i'm doing now is a huge change from doing just like residential and generators now i'm doing you know great i've been doing it for a while but it was it really made it fun for you know as long as i've been doing it now because it doesn't seem like i'm working i'm i'm basically playing and learning new things and that's what i love about what i do now but that's what the the next step now being the industrial and the grocery store stuff is now the new thing which it's frustrating because i mean you go from half and you know having it you know no problem got it to having to ask somebody for help which sucks but whatever it's it's coming and we're getting there so yep i hear uh i hear the dink i hear a gill what's up who who what's up everybody you man ladies and gentlemen we introduced you gill from yo are you losing weight are you like i'm like some kind of vegan diet over there uh no but i've been hitting gym pretty hard though right um you get back and hold the sun the sports yeah you sound like a little muffled a little bit like you're cutting out like your noise gate or something's kicking in i need to uh that was a pretty neat introduction you had in that video before you went on live did you make that that yeah i um well yes to know me and adam talked about it um it is um i made it but i bought a template you have to give me the like a link to that i mean i want to copy it so i'd be just like you like strongest about it i'm sure there's other things i can pick i i i don't know everybody from what i'm told they like my intro but you know it's nothing special so i mean it's like i'd love to do something more like that but it's so difficult to really make it without that template would make it so much simpler something anything different it is and i tried to do one like you know me using the you know the thoughtful process and and all that kind of stuff and it is it's harder than it looks and it's well it just takes a little bit of time so i um that that was easy and to be honest you can do um even if you don't have like the creative cloud and stuff like that you can get ones for all different kind of programs um most people say the easiest one is uh after effects because you can get a free trial for 14 days go in make your intro and then screw it and then just save it and you're good but you gotta know photo or adobe's way things work and i've not i've never really used it but i i know they're one of the leaders and i i don't know how long it would take me to figure all their stuff out yeah but no when you buy the template they literally give you a video and tell you what to do step by step it's actually pretty it's they make it pretty easy all you do is just go in and delete their files and put in the videos that you want i could do it for you oh she thinks she knows how to do it well i set up your stream didn't i whatever she gets pissed at me we i like my last or that the end of the video i recorded into obs and i needed a new screen and i'm tinkering with it because that's how we figure stuff out and it'll be changing this i made a whole new like section source area and it should have just been like screw anything you want up in there but no it started changing other crap in other areas it shouldn't have but she's getting all pissed about it that's how it works there's always problems that's the way you gotta freaking figure this stuff out it's like what happens if i push this button oh that don't work now okay well let's not do that let's restore that so you know yeah well plus there's none of us you can ask adam all of us everybody who's live stream podcast anything we've all had technical issues it happens even when everything's good like i can literally leave everything alone it's the same way it was last time and come back to it and it's like something's not working it's like i didn't touch anything how the hell does it not work you know true we had technical difficulties the beginning of friday's show and we actually said um we're gonna start like it gave us an idea so we're gonna change the intro for the show because of our temp technical difficulties which is kind of different you know what like start new or earlier or what you mean like check things out earlier so that you can get it fixed before you're supposed to go on or what no we um so i mean this is boring for everyone else but very quickly we use obs and like youtube studio okay and normally i always click go live on obs and then go live on youtube but this week i click go live on obs and it automatically click youtube to go live and we were just like bs8 and we were i didn't have the proper scene on and it saw us talking prior to whatever so i figured you're on purpose no it wasn't on purpose and what's weird is is like we do it we watch it with the tv and for some reason we can hear you and it's showing the people's chat but we can it doesn't change and like we have to log out and it's nothing you're doing but the tv sometimes gets confused and you have to log back in again and then it comes up normal and i every time thought oh they're just pretending that you know we don't know the mics live and and doing whatever you know we've done a bunch of like on purpose hot mics yeah but this this last friday was not on purpose it was an accident yeah that's what i thought it was but for some reason it was getting that weirdo thing going on oh yeah rich i need to give you bonus i'll give you some extra zip screws for your pocket for calling in what is this pocket full of zip screws you got any wire nuts in there brass cap plastic cap all i have to offer is zip screws well you can't make nothing else no zip screws the um the hilti zip screws are the best they're badass i agree they are the best are they uh tapered tapping um they're like super like i don't even like they're super sharp and you know like normal melco or whatever you put them on an angle and they slip off you could put the thing on any angle and they just zips right in with half inch and you know like melco if you over tighten it and it strips in you can't get it back out again this will always come back out it's really it's an amazing screw huh yeah i always like the tappers i mean five sixteenths my favorite but then i use some phillips too because i do a lot of that refrigeration or kitchen crap so i use a lot of those short tappers and stuff they work pretty good on that sheet metal but especially when you want to keep the head flush but yeah they rust so what's new gill seem old seem old i know i'm actually uh moving this time i know i've been saying i've been moving for like two years but it's actually happened this time um so uh i already have the house i live in is my rental house and i already have it somebody come in here in february so we've been kind of hot and heavy on that whole process still staying in town though yeah yeah yeah i'm not going to texas yet did you you find a new house we have a couple that we're we got it down to um not not definitely i mean i'm i'm too picky man um so we have a couple we've been looking at them and looking at them so um but we got to do something here soon yeah we only got a month or two yeah it's just hard that you know to doing it right before christmas i mean i'd like to have something ready to go with an after christmas move yeah do you want we built when i was at home dad built like five houses so we moved multiple times and always never failed it would always be towards when it got cold so you end up either living in a camper as he's finishing up building it or whatever it was always a good time so gotta love it i just feel bad for my oldest son because he's a you know sophomore in high school you know an athlete and all this school stuff you know not being on the play sports and all this other different stuff and then having to switch schools so we've tried to look in certain areas for him uh there's one school that he really wants to go to because a bunch of friends but uh trying to find the kind of house that we need in that area is like a needle in a haystack and he gets all but hurt but i'm like dude it is what it is man if it's not there it's not there i can't just buy a house to buy a house so you can go to a certain school is the schools closed right now everything like mandatorily online yeah everything's closed here and and in maryland online school stuff is a shit show it's it's pathetic yeah you know the private schools aren't bad and we almost i was going to send him to a private school but then i thought we were going to texas i'm like well i'm not going to spend money on a private school if we're going to move then the texas thing didn't happen then it was too late to go to private schools so a whole bunch of shit happened but uh it is what it is yeah well that's how to do of mine because i mean even though i live in an okay area but the school has gone downhill from what it used to be used to be a country school and it just went downhill and so i end up doing him through our our church actually has a school and it worked out good it's a small school so but it uh yeah it sucks our online thing is actually pretty damn good i have to say it's pretty freaking streamlined and like we actually have like a parent portal we could see like if our kids are turning in their shit or not um we can see that it's just the actual the the schooling process like how they teach it's just like like i've actually watched some of these um and they're like oh yeah go to this um i'm gonna the little thing on the side i'm gonna put these papers in there you have till the end of the week to do it have a good day click so they're not like okay we're gonna take this number here and division it by this and blah blah blah and don't do a couple of examples or anything like that i mean i'm doing science and shit like that it's it's all it's it's just welcoming from the stuff i've seen like my son when he was like going to school like um like he was rough in middle school in high school he's been good he's like a 3.6 3.7 gpa um i think he's still in the threes but he's had a really really tough time doing online he's just not like me you know i i learned when i'm there doing something not when you're on a screen telling me um and then i got you know in trouble yelling at some teachers before the election you know and people giving their opinions to the kids and i was like hey bitch you teach math okay i know what you're saying now yeah i'm not preaching to high school kids okay they don't vote so yeah yeah trying to indoctrinate already yeah not to mention if i walk in my son's room you'll know what i'm talking about let's just say he's gonna be flagged that hangs in his room oh his room his personal room yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's what i got on my intro way of my door that which we were gonna put down here the whole math thing bothers me the new math thing you know because like all my kids are different ages my wife's like you're good at math you're really good at math and geometry and this and that go help your kids and they're like how do i do common core i'm like i don't fucking know it's stupid yeah it's an ass backwards way to do something that we were taught so much easier youtube it's two it's two math teachers and one does it the old way and one does a common core and apparently the video is not like rigged or you know edit it where the one finishes the problem goes and brews a pot of coffee makes a cup of coffee comes back and sits down and his wife is just finishing the common core and he's like and then they both come on camera and say you tell me if this makes sense i was like that's crazy i have no clue i have no idea how to do it i'm like i can show you the other way but they like want to see like how you figured it out on paper you know yeah they don't they don't want the answer they want to see how you got the answer have you ever seen what the old school books were like way back you know when kids only went to like sixth grade like the macguffie reader type stuff the stuff they had to do back then was so advanced compared to where we're at now the kids are lucky they even do it in high school now and they were doing it like in sixth grade now grand we're going back you know into the 50s and stuff but i mean it we dumbed them down yeah they don't teach cursive you like teach code you know student cursive yeah you're gonna have a bunch of kids like printing their name on checks you know what i mean but you know i mean we print now i mean it's how i do my service ticket it's all printed but i could tell you last time i wrote in cursive sometimes i have to find myself like i gotta scribble a little bit just to kind of get back in the groove because it looks all shitty i'll have mixed match to have an l and then an r and an i and cursive and yeah it'll be all backwards that's how you do that again yeah i forget like a g capital g i i feel like uh they've like we're a little bit brainwashed because they're like we're the smartest and the greatest country in the world and blah blah blah but like you my the guy who's like learning from me my apprentice my helper um he is from another country and he moved to the other country from his uh original country and i'm you know asking him how many languages do you speak he's like five wow and uh he said the second country he lived at it's like mandatory to speak like four languages and like most americans like what are you guys what does everyone speak one language english for the most part maybe you speak spanish uh spanish or maybe you speak french but like we're kind of dumb asses to be honest with you but yeah i would definitely not call us the smartest country i would say we're the greatest country and maybe we're advanced in maybe some military things but overall smartest i think we don't have that by a long shot yeah unfortunately we've been gifted that's what we've been yeah we've been gifted with some bad things too oh yeah but since entitlement yeah well that too i mean it's it's slowly been pissed away but yeah we don't want to turn this into the ring you know we'll lose them if we get too crazy so yeah yeah and don't and don't ever get me going on politics because i never shut up well i know we'll agree so it'll be all right so i mean we'll just pass everybody off yeah we'll just pass everybody off at some point okay because i don't use my personal channel for anything we should do a hangout and just be asked about how shitty the united states government is because i would love that let's do it i'm in the government only yeah yeah i want to be a news reporter talk about we'll just make another channel we can it could be adam's fake news we have a fake news channel at fakie f a news it's we are real news yeah real news i actually i actually have ballots 2020 election ballots in suitcases under my desk just give me proof man show me proof yeah it's funny it's crazy yeah that's funny i mean yeah we'll see what happens we'll see what happens yeah there's some people get my hopes up but then it's just like yeah i don't know yeah whatever yeah yeah whatever whatever so yep wow oh hamilton's got a good question he wants to know what's better replacing an entire duct system and sealing versus supplementing with duct less that's a guilt question i mean well what do you have like i mean what are you starting from scratch do you have a system you're trying to add on to or um i think it matters to like the load what do you mean you know yeah use the word supplementing means that you're you're supplementing another system adding entire he said yeah it's from the 60s and it's a train wreck oh is it accessible is it in the basement where's it coming from it's an attic there's a five by 14 trunk line and there's three inch pvc pipe running through it basement is not currently included in system five by 14 it seems a little jacked hmm yeah that's custom made stuff here yeah it's a good job sorry i'm just gonna say i like two uh two or three years ago i flipped the house it was a pretty fairly small house it was a three bedroom ranch though with the crawl space and i pulled the permit and on the permit i said i was going to do a furnace and air and after the permit because they didn't ask for a load i did the load when i saw how low the load came back as and i was kicking myself to doing the permit as a furnace and air i should have done everything as a duck list system that's what i wish i would have done because the load was so low you know yeah it's hard because there's not really a general answer you can give for that because it does depend on the location what the house is how it's designed the way it's laid out so i'm sorry i can't give you a general answer hamilton um it's it just it all depends on what you have there how what you can get to um even though i like duck list i would always take a ducted system over a duck list but i'm talking like high end like me my go-to system right now that i've been selling like hotcakes is the um the 18 seer carrier inverter system um and everybody loves it um i rather have a ducted system but um like i said it all depends some houses i wouldn't put that in it just wouldn't make sense so then i would offer different options so gill let me ask you i know you had nate adams on because i called in when nate was on your show we just had nate adams on our show um have you guys have you tried his system the hvc 2.0 i have messed with it a little bit but i've not been in depth with it i know it's pretty neat though what brand is it is it a system they made it like um the furnace air conditioner heat pump what is it it's uh it's basically like you do like this whole report on the house and you do a blower door test and everything else and you incorporate the blower door on the sizing of the equipment and um you could really shrink down the size of the load more so than like manual j based on the blower door with the uh what is the it's called ecs or whatever the load setup he uses i think yeah i know they call like hvc 2.0 or something like that because i actually did um a sponsorship thing with him i um just to help him promote it so it's a design program yeah it is really really neat though i can't remember but you put in regular equipment then after that yeah like he's really pushing nate's thing is he really wants to do everything electrical he doesn't want gas so they're like they're pushing like let's get rid of gas you know like uh they had a competition a while back where it's like uh anyone who could uh delete a gas meter from a house they go all like we're to give prizes to you know and where do they think most of electricity is generated at it's not solar and wind it's by coal most i mean most of the work that i've been doing in some of these videos is at power companies and you know they tell me the true specs on i mean the freaking windmills don't produce the power the solar panels don't do it when it's dark i mean the the coal power plants granted when we have one of the most efficient scrubbers on a coal power plant it's cleaner than i think we got a national works it's here in Ohio and it literally is one of the cleanest in the world and it's it's you know uh and we provide power all over i mean we provide power to chicago i mean i know one of the monster-ass power lines we've got actually goes out west and that's where i think from what i'm told some of the windmills actually provides power to chicago supposedly because i have a crap loads of windmills uh out west of me and i mean that's that's what i understand is how that you know the aging circuitry and stuff that the power transfers through and stuff in the generation and then they keep trying to shut down all the stuff how are they going to generate it if they don't let coal and natural gas happen well especially the the price of gas is cheap yeah i mean the fact that we're you know we're in we're an expert now for now it's free until well yeah a couple years until we run ourselves in the ground again and then we're going to back to six dollar an hour six gallon dollar gallon gas but yeah no that's true it's going to be well i'm sorry i mean i'm talking about natural gas natural gas is cheap yeah but they're they're they're negative on that even anything any fossil fuel they're negative on it and then they want us to be dependent on somebody else's freaking stuff so i don't know it'll be i'll be curious to see how this turns out the one thing that i i've read about is like most like there's a lot of different countries around the world that have like renewable energy solar wind and that and they're like their infrastructure is a lot greater than ours like we're not there but they there there's countries that have it you know what i mean like they're giving it like rebates and that for people that put solar on their house and everything else i don't think we're anywhere close to being to the point of getting rid of natural gas but there are countries that can do it and you wouldn't believe how many of those windmills break down i mean you're constantly seeing them setting still when it's blowing out and it's because they went down and then from what i'm told i know the ones up north of me before they got popular and they put this big windmill thing in the payback was 10 years and it was like three million dollars for each windmill and they took 10 years to pay for it to pay itself back and it's like you're telling me that thing ain't gonna be broke down and wore out in 10 years so yeah i don't know i definitely think we're not as far along as we should be i i agree with that that we should be far far further along with that kind of stuff but um i don't necessarily think we're in a bad spot though like like it's like it's made out to be i mean i think it depends on where you live at like out in california i've heard their grid is really bad out there far as their transmission lines and stuff like that from what i've been told but uh well that was one of the things that chris brought up when we were talking to nate adams is like i know you want to electrify everything but our grid sucks and they shut us down like like how would that work because we're if we had all electrical and um you know we're having brownouts or blackouts or whatever how would that work for everyone and he was saying like it's got to be strategically done blah blah because i think nate is definitely involved in the like lobbying to get rid of natural gas i think he's like a like a part of that i don't know for sure but um it sounded like it when we talked to him i i agree i think he is too he's a very smart dude he he acts like he's not when you try to say that he's a very modest guy but he's a very very smart dude like he some of the things he explains like we talked we had like a phone conversation one time and he was talking about something and like and i was like i feel like i just took a nap because i don't understand a damn thing you just said like i was like i don't even know can you repeat that uh can we round two because i i don't think i absorbed all of it um very very smart guy yeah i think i've seen some of it and i kind of tuned out after a while it's kind of like uh okay so i think it's good to have people like that though people trying to make things better and you know more systemized so that we can do a better job and and people can have stuff like that i mean i see the the reasoning behind it i mean it's great to you know it's supposedly safer and blah blah but you know i don't know i guess we'll have to figure it out as we go if we make it that far geothermal yeah that for me that's way to go because i don't have natural gas where i'm at so all i've got is propane that's why you know i added electric strips to the top of my plenum i have a 90 i think mine's only 93 percent and then i've got a 12 seer heat pump so i i need to update it it's it's about done hat i want to go with the nav 25 seer uh green speed so i need to get an actual price for personal use though it's only pretty good personal use because i have two of the green speeds in my house and people would think that i have gas heat is it worth paying the extra for because i know the one's five speed and the other one's true variable is it worth going with the true variable because like the what are the heat 8 h the h seer or whatever it is that number is the same i think 10 and a half or something like that or maybe it's 13 because for me i'm i'm focused on the heat factor not the freaking cooling i give a crap whether it's 25 seer i want to see you know depending on when you get it and what price you get if you can get the green speed go with it but i even tell my customers and maybe i talk myself out of money sometimes but i think that that 25 vna 8 um i always do the the because they have a 24 by 24 and a 36 by 36 i don't like that little short one as long you're not restricted on plate on space um that's the five speed i think that's the best bang for your buck yeah there's quite a bit of price difference i think isn't there like a thousand dollars because see i mean we sell high end stuff i mean it's i don't even know how our sales guy does it i mean he he don't hardly ever sell anything cheap and you know i've played with that thing i think it's badass i've changed compressor and one i've changed some leaking accumulators and some other miscellaneous but lately i haven't had too many problems with them and i know the five speed is what our dispatchers got and i started that thing up and she's able to run that in low freaking temperatures and it's doing a really good job and i'm kind of like that's why i want to get it but i don't know if that one qualifies for that special pricing for the the you know the personal use because i they wanted you to buy all the good the best stuff they got no i'm pretty sure that that would be in their high category so here's for example um i won't say exactly what my price is but yeah at least three two and a half tons of my currency what size what size system would be in your house i got a two and a half now but i'm just shy of 1800 square foot ranch style with a basement pretty well insulated two by four walls um are i don't know it's about a foot and a half of insulation up in the attic it's pretty decent so when you go with these they don't do half sizes so i go normally what i would do is if you have a two and a half i would go up to three even though you probably wouldn't need it only because you'd never run this thing's always going to modulate down yeah but on a hot summer day or a cold winter day you have that for that cold is what i'm looking at to be able to get that extra temperature out of it when it gets cold outside yeah usually mine takes a shit when it's about 13 degrees out so three ton for a green speed all right i'm gonna try to see the difference and then for the 18 all right so my cost difference how much i pay is 2,500 bucks between the two wow that's heat pump that's my pump i thought the one was like five grand or 5,500 bucks just for the condenser does that sound about right yeah yeah it's expensive yeah so that's i have a hard time justifying it man i don't want that damn bosh man i really i really want the infinity system but damn you know i have to buy the furnace to match it even though there's nothing wrong with my my 93 efficient linux i mean and it's got the ecm blower and all that crap it's just hard to like say okay i'm gonna spend another 2,500 on the furnace just so i can have the controls in another 500 600 bucks for the thermostat it's like uh i don't know well that's right so you're doing you're gonna that's right so you're gonna go gas furnace coil like so hybrid yeah that's what you're doing yeah that's what we're doing this this price might be a little bit different okay so yeah i mean it's not going to be cheap and that's what sucks and it's like there's nothing wrong with it right now and i'll grant it my du cane which is a cheap one it's 12 seer but the dang thing's done great i mean the highest electric bill when i went all electric was 250 bucks and then when i you know run dual fuel i run about 165 a month in the winter so but you know you depend on what your gas is it could be 99 cents a gallon it could be four dollars a gallon it's just you don't know you know depending on who's running the show so well if you're gonna go dual fuel then i would 100 say to do the 18 the five speed 18 seer is that all that is 18 seer because i thought it was both up in the 20s you you can yeah depending on how you match it up you can get a little bit higher but they call it the 25 vna 8 so normally we call it the 18 seer but the matchups you can get different so that's not even really true 25 unless you do a bunch of things to to reach it yeah like you cannot like the new one now is like all is has wi-fi and stuff like that yeah that's what i kind of wanted yeah well i'm well they all have wi-fi i'm talking about like the new green speed system has wi-fi like fixing it capabilities yeah you can go out there with your phone you know spelly talk to you and make let you know how it feels and what its history is and don't have to miss a thermostat yeah it sends me an email yeah i think it'd be kind of cool of course wouldn't it finally starts going bad you know just like when a an ecm blower or draft motor goes out your mods will be planned on spending at least 900 bucks it's almost a thousand dollars you know it's like what's but you know it's 10 years down the road but still you know that time's gonna come that's the thing it's like um are you really saving money by going up with a super high-end system because as soon as you're out of work though actually have to replace parts on it it's not about but you should never sell those systems based on savings um comforts where it's at exactly it's comfort and the comfort you get for the same price you were paying for that you know i mean for less price of what you were paying for that other mediocre system so this house right here is probably i don't know it's like 3,700 square feet it's it's it looks big that's size is all it has going for it but it's actually built very shitty um that's why it's a rental house i don't want to stay here um but there was one system in here that was undersized i put one of the green speeds in added ductwork upstairs and put another green speed system in both of those systems running are cheaper than the one system that was running before and this house has never been more comfortable um like i had a guy that i just sold one of the 18 seer inverter systems too and um he's like man he's like this fan he's like it always runs really low he's like i have it set on 71 he's like and it's i've never seen it off of 71 and i was like well that's what it does it it meets your temperature and it slows down so it slows the fan down so the air feels warmer coming out um and it just makes it a more even temperature until you actually experience what they do um it's just crazy like in my house um well let me step back for a second so i always tell people and you guys know this you know you have efficiency and you have comfort as one goes up the other one goes down it's kind of like a teeter tottering to me the inverters are the only ones that kind of balance it out where you don't got to pay a lot as far as your utility bill to be comfortable um now that i've had them and all my customers who have had them they can never go back it's just it's the experience that once you have it you can't go back to a traditional system i mean they've really had some good people designing that i mean it's it is amazing i mean it's hard to explain if you if you've not done anything with the infinity i mean it was so many years in advance over everybody else i mean even going back 10 years ago i mean it was more advanced than what anybody else had but if you see who the parent company is that used to own carrier uti and some of the other big names that do aerospace and all this other crap you can see where these engineers came from that designed it i mean they had a pretty good pool to pull from but i will say i mean i i know carrier so i talk about that but i've seen trains inverter system that i think is is badass it's a good system we actually just put in um because you use some elenic stuff when elenics is inverter system and i think that that's pretty slick so i'm just big on the inverter technology in general um for the for the cost and a lot of these places have rebates where like it's a lot cheaper than people think so yeah train my friend as well too yeah train trains um i've never put in one but i had a customer that had one and um he let me mess with it and that thing was pretty slick i really like the thermostat they used to for train so um what is it like the 6000 looking thing or is it then they come out something new thermostat it's like a 950 or 1050 yeah yeah so i think they're all they're all up there um i know when i put in a couple of the ream inverter systems i don't think that they're i know they're good but i don't hold them and i know some people uh i forget his one the one guy florida um i forget his name but he's a smart dude um here joe shear yeah him as i said yeah yeah he always kind of fights me with it and i know he brings up some very very valid points but i don't think the ream inverters hold a candle to like the carrier train and stuff like that um you know just being that rotary compressor and when i look at them i just i don't know i don't see the craftsmanship and the quality that i see in the other manufacturers well like the big boys um and mainly carrier and train the linux is pretty good looking i don't think that's still not as good as the carrier and train one um but it looks better than the ream just to me in my personal opinion ream's always kind of had an ugly look to it yeah well their newer ones are actually pretty good and i mean and i think you can get it for a pretty good cost some kind of technology i just don't think it's the same as i personally don't put it on the same level as them that's why it was tempting to go with the bosh i just don't want to deal with all the problems i had with my in-laws and so it's like but man i can get it so cheap didn't they fix that with the new boshes though like the 2.0 or whatever the hell it called it didn't change a lot i mean i kind of said i'd be quiet about it if you know they fix the stupid thing because that's how i got them to come out because i said you know what i did a live stream and was bitching about it because i've wasted a shit ton of my time on this stupid thing i never did get compensated for all that um i mean i spent probably as much time freaking trying to figure out why it was doing what it was doing is what it did to install the whole duckwork system and everything uh you know multiple trips back on this stupid thing but we ended up basically taking the uh an ECM blower taking it to its absolutely slowest speed and then uh that would be where the the the inverter system start out and then if the thermostat wasn't happy it would step it up to the next fan speed so now you know the fan's going faster trying to keep that temperature where it's at so it would increase the speed of the compressor it was a big mind game with the compressor because you're trying to outsmart the logic circuitry that's all outside and because there's no communications between it so i never understood that like i mean at the beginning that i remember like when i was podcasting with dipshit back in the day and um they would say oh yeah we want a psc blower i'm like what yeah i'm like how how are you doing that like to me that's how i'm sorry would you say what i was just gonna say that's the same thing with york york did the same show with the psc blower with module and all that it was bullshit and york i'm sorry york um i with my dad's company we installed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of their modulating and high end systems and we had so many fucking warranty calls and the only way we didn't go out of business is because we bought their extended warranty with a paid labor that's it that's the only reason because we we did so many of them so um now the york guy is calling me and he's like we really want you to try york again i'm like bark up the else's fucking tree i guess like i'm not even looking to do that right now and he's like i'll give you any system you want for free you can put it in your house and anyone else's house i'm like eh you can keep your fucking system i don't even want to deal with it because i've always tried to get me demonetized bad on bad we're good you know i don't care we all the time and we're not demonetized is it well they limit you is what it's kind of weird and only in the first so many minutes yeah so many minutes and so whatever else it's really questionable because sometimes like for a while there they'd be like 100 trust me and then after a while they were kind of like are you sure you know and i don't know as long as you stay in your stuff's not made for kids you can say whatever you want is it it's kind of weird because like you notice like they group everything together far as like your titles long as it's not this or that or blah blah and doesn't happen in the first so many minutes but i don't care these things are lucky if they make me three dollars maybe six i normally welcome people by saying hey fuckers so i'm probably not doing very good as far as the language um then you tune it up you're like i love you mofos and it's like why pull back now dude yeah yeah i know it's funny i've actually that's what my wife said she's like you you coughed and you say the f were the whole time and then you end it with mofos she's like what a bitch i was like oh thank you i was like man thanks for really punching me in the gut there appreciate that so that's funny uh yeah speaking of that i figure i let you know um we have to get her going back it's kind of been a rough week for her um she's been having some pressure and stuff on your heads and having headaches and stuff so i'm trying to get her to go back to the doctors here soon because it was kind of a kind of a crazy week you know it is you got good days and bad days but it was just a couple quite a few bad days in a row that was um like oh shit well we need to go in bed all day yeah so yeah that sucks hopefully it's nothing it might be there's a lot of weather fronts it's been coming through and stuff i've had a lot of um i forget what day it was there's one day that i could just tell um i think it was like monday or tuesday my head just i had so much pressure inside my head and it wasn't like a sinus pressure type headache thing it was like i've got too much fluid in my head yeah well it's it's kind of funny but it's wrong but a friend of mine gave me like a whole thing of those blue chews those things for bing bing um and i came home like uh it was like wednesday night and i was like oh yeah i'm gonna eat one of these mum yeah we're good and then she then found out she wasn't feeling good and i was like well good thing i didn't eat that it'd been one awkward night walking around pitching a tent all night like go to bed kids go to bed you know um good thing i waited that's funny you never know what we're gonna talk about on here yeah i'm gonna try to get water to sponsor the podcast i mean how many hbc you guys out there hey you're home you know running pipe all day and you get home and you have some issues everybody has has run running pipe all day and you get home and you just want to lay a little pipe yeah you know next thing you know your your torch isn't working and you gotta you gotta try to figure something out so you gotta wire this thing up oh hey you guys you guys could um record a commercial and um air it on the on the overtime show rick you can use your dj voice oh god yeah that'd be funny that would be kind of neat you do some do a comedy skit of some sort news yeah yeah what was that well we was watching some guys singing singing today who were they they were doing some oh it's some new channel i found and they were doing um on the spot like one takes where they were singing and they were doing and impersonations and they'd hold up a a freaking sign and he'd have no clue so maybe it might be obama could be you know some famous guy and they'd have to change their voice to match it while they're singing the song they're doing then they had some songs that they actually completely changed the words in it which was pretty good too and it was pretty neat pretty funny yeah that funny hey i don't mean to like hijack your show but i would love to know your guys opinion the podcast that's coming out tomorrow morning uh me kelly and ryan my partner talk about when you're starting a company and i guess well i mean both of you would know this um um do you think the brand of equipment you sell is important i guess it depends on how bad of a brand it is because like the company that i first started with long ago used to be a linux dealer and they lost it and because the people that originally owned it went up against them and basically took over the linux whatever and now they sell i think they switched over to some other off-brand concord something and eventually they they're now selling goodman but they had a they they were huge company originally and granted they just pissed away customer after customer and they sold the living crap out of the freaking uh goodman stuff yet because of their name they stuck around for quite a while so i mean if you don't believe in it's gonna be hard to sell it but you know i think you have you have to believe you what you're selling but it has to be halfway decent equipment i think most equipment now um it really is based on how well you install it absolutely like you always go through those times like i was talking about with york where there's like lemons of equipment and york when johnson controls bought the residential side of york and um they were selling the the new infinity modulating all that crazy crap that just came out that was garbage i'm sorry like anyone from johnson controls will admit to you it was garbage right there was bad bad equipment that was coming out at that time but like everyone has it carrier has their bad secondaries train has their bad um draft motors and circuit boards um everyone has their bad coils everyone has their bad batches of equipment so i don't think it really matters um everything it ends up panning out at the end you know i mean but yeah i wouldn't sell york yeah my personal opinion i mean obviously i i wouldn't touch york and i wouldn't touch like one of the nordine brands or nothing like that like me tag or something uh but i think when people are starting out brand should be the least of their worries um only because i agree it's it's how you put it in and it's also what supply how like who's gonna take care of you the service behind it i mean you when i call the salesman is he gonna answer the phone you know if i have a warranty issue or you're gonna help me out um you know so i i think a lot of other factors go into place when you're starting out more than equipment i think too many guys think um oh i'm gonna sell train don't be a train dealer i'm gonna be a carrier dealer and they're getting shit prices they're trying to sell their system too too high and they're making a little bit of profit margin um when it's really just try to find somebody that's gonna work with you and take care of you that you can build in the future once you get a little ass behind you yeah then if you want to start trying to you know finagle and make sure you're getting a good deal but i think in the beginning to me i think brand is not important at all when you start out i agree i can see that i mean you you're selling it on on the installation and the service the service is everything i mean anybody that's been screwed will know how important the service is and they should be buying you not the brand of equipment anyway like here at bellway um no matter what brand of equipment we sell our base warranty is the same no matter what what brand it is so you know that's just if somebody you know but if i go into someone's house and like you know i like carrier but so we deal with carrier linux and goodman um if i go in even though i like carrier and they're like man i really love goodman well guess what i'm gonna sell them a goodman if that's if that's what they want why am i gonna bite them out if they've always told themselves why would i talk them out of it that's like i always say if you go in mcdonald's and you're like yeah let me get a 10-piece nugget and they're like no you want a quarter pounder you're like no dude look give me a 10-piece nugget like i want a 10-piece nugget no you don't want that you want a quarter pounder nobody does that you're gonna give them a sale yeah so it's just i don't know it's crazy yeah i could see that definitely well shoot we've had drug this thing out about longer than i have for a long time two hours and 43 minutes i don't think i've ever gone this long that's crazy that's turning to a hangout not a show you know and i don't care i they don't bother me none i at least got the coolest people that come in every week and that's what i really like and i mean i try to put my quality behind the video and this here is kind of more more hang out and then eventually if i ever get really really big you know and that'd be an easy way to answer questions and stuff because i mean eventually it'll be the point where i can't sit there and respond to all of them maybe i mean i finally hit 11 000 so congratulations man yeah it's like 650 some subscribers and less than 30 days i mean it's it's still climbing so that's why i've been trying to do a week and it's very difficult so we'll see how things go this week with me being on call it's just uh takes so much time i mean i got so many videos i just don't want to use like that one i just use i didn't want to use it and yet it i always get a kick out of what people like it's like what i might think it sucks and then it's like they like it it just it's weird it's really weird so i've got a residential one where it was just a simple pressure switch came off the hose but yet i went through and checked everything else and it wasn't our normal brand and i thought you know what maybe somebody will like this that's fairly newer because they ain't going to be interested in refrigeration because they're probably coming straight out of school so maybe they don't want to know about that so maybe they'll love it that it's you know a residential unit that was pretty something simple but you know look here's all the other things i did besides just fix the pressure switch it was off you know so i don't know just film it man you ever know yeah i recorded it it was and i used my phone and said my GoPro when i do that that sucks because i don't i don't carry a tripod with me no more so i can't do integral work with both hands while i'm holding the phone so that's why a lot of times when i don't take the GoPro with me and either it's dead or i forgot it or whatever um i i don't have any way to hold the camera so i can't record doing the brazing or whatever i'm doing so my biggest thing is like i hate editing and i was thinking about like i just want to make stupid little videos like that's my idea it's like when you're working at something you're installing equipment or whatever um like you just show a switch or an outlet and it's like hey guys when you're doing this outlet this is how you strip the wire this is how you wrap it's like clockwise around the screw and you tighten it you know what i mean how often do you run into equipment where it's wrapped the wrong way around the screw or they just take the wire straight underneath the philips screw and it's just about ready to pop out right or they they strip the freaking thermostat wires an inch long and they're sticking through past the terminal strips just waiting to be shorted out to something else just like very basic things that like guys that are coming in don't know it's like super basic things i was thinking about just making videos like that where it's running the thermostat wire along the duct line and putting it through the drive cleat and using the drive cleat to hold it up sorry the guy in the comments detecting Arizona said i released a video this week and lost a sub it happens man it happens yeah that's why i i i hired an editor um just because yeah well me and my partner ryan because he's he's gonna start doing some youtube stuff we're in the process of trying to buy this building um because you know we we do a lot of remote stuff here so we have a couple different offices but we don't have like some huge warehouse right now um just because we don't need it um just the way we do things we don't need it um so we're trying to buy oops what the hell did i just do i was trying to type to the freaking thing hold on gill sorry about that i'm like freaking in the middle of a good conversation sorry i was trying to respond signing the chat i can't even talk to him this appears why do i can't i can't don't don't click anything well that sucks i was gonna say hi uh residential go ahead can't freaking do it obviously without crashing it yeah no long story short we're just gonna get this building um we're gonna put our own offices in there and part of that's gonna be an actual like studio studio that we're gonna we're gonna use um and we have a a guide to editors gonna edit the youtube videos for us just because that way i can just film stuff so since i'm not actually fixing anything per se anymore um and you know you can't really film sales calls and stuff like that i don't know if you'd want to show them your tricks yeah i don't but it was so funny you say that because somebody else asked me i'm like like dude this might sound cliche but i don't really have any tricks it's psychological you just gotta make friends with them you just gotta you just gotta believe in your product and be personable and make them believe in truly believe in your heart that you're there to help them and sell them what they need not what they that you want to try to get rid of i mean anytime you don't try to sell it and you just say hey i'm really excited about this because here's these things what's your budget range what are you looking for i don't care i'll sell you the his to this it makes me no difference i make the same money either way which one do you need okay cool i love this thing you know and if you're excited about it now some people won't give a shit but i mean a service guy can make a hell of a great salesman because freaking he knows what he likes to work on because he don't have problems with it or it's easy to work on you know here's the reason why i like it and that's how i picked out my worser and drier that's kind of the the what i've run into because i don't like selling i don't like being a salesman and what i've found is like if you just get down and dirty technical with the people and tell them like and you break it down for them you know i mean like why this is what you need why this is better uh listen to you because it's not just like this is bad you need a new one yeah period you know what i mean because they're like okay it's so simple you you really lay it down for them and you tell them all the details and why this is what's going on and you you tell them like you know technically what's going on and then um you really just explain it to them they get it yeah exactly i i just educate them i just tell them about different things that are out there um i do give some of my personal opinion i try to put it i make sure that they're involved that they understand what i'm talking about when i talk about two stage versus single stage um about dehumidifying and stuff like that i make sure it's a way that they understand and i ask them questions to make sure they understand um i don't ever want it to be me just sitting there preaching at them blah blah blah blah they're then they're not they're not listening to me um so i just make sure there's there's sometimes i go out there and the people are like i only about 30 minutes like you know what i'm like for me to do this right i need more than 30 minutes of your time i'm like how about i'm purchasing decision makers here yeah that was a big thing i learned when it came time for wedding dj if i'm going to try to get you to spend a thousand dollars with me i need the decision maker to meet with us if they're not then we need to pick a day that we are because the last thing you want to do is do all this information and hope that that person can relay the information to the person that really is going to make the decision you just wasted your time well also the follow-up is very important especially this time of year the follow-up because i love sales but i also don't believe like i know there's all kind of shit spills you can give when it's like you know if it's just a wife or just a husband and you know i know me and kelly have mentioned some and that's things that are out there i would never do that i'm not going to try to i wouldn't want i wouldn't make that decision without my wife and i wouldn't want my wife making that decision without me so i'm damn sure not gonna do that to a customer um so it's all about the follow-up and my first follow-up i always do is always i call them uh you know personally or if i have to send something over um if i can't talk about the quote in person and i have to send it i call them before i send it i've closed them over zoom calls like hey i'm gonna do you have a second you know what i mean can you open this up so we can look over together um you know tried some different things some work some don't but uh i just try to be honest with people i i really do and and that's really what works i could probably be a lying scumbag and make more money but i'm good i don't need that no now if you're looking for long term yeah they'll remember that people you know good good newville new good news travels slow but bad news travels fast so the guy read said are you selling time shares yeah and then hey like i said i wanted to be i wanted to be the most expensive disc jockey i could be and i had to learn how to do it i went to trade shows in chicago down in my aunt or or lando i mean i went everywhere you figure when i was in a town where the normal dj charge 400 bucks i was getting 900 to a thousand you know chicago they was getting 1200 for four hours i was giving them unlimited but they never even used the full unlimited so you had to learn techniques and granted i gave them what they paid for but it took a lot to learn and i learned a lot of stuff by that a lot of times no one wants to be sold it's just communicating with the people is a big thing so yeah that's huge that's huge man i was going to beat the chiefs damn it so i could make a hundred bucks well i think we should probably kick this thing in the head we're at almost eight minutes till three hours holy macaroni i appreciate everyone coming in here tonight before you go out the door and slam it knock it off the hinges be if don't be afraid to smack that thumb button there if you would please so you guys definitely smash the subscribe button man rich does a lot of hard work making his videos his videos give a lot of good content share his video share it with other people so when you like it like all these streams when you like it it triggers the algorithm and it makes more other people see it after the fact so they recommend it to other people and don't forget to check out overtime h back overtime if you guys don't already know i was just gonna say and hvc uncensored with gill and kelly they have an awesome thing going on actually not just kelly gill kelly and or steve yeah mr steve going with me i i got a couple of things that are going to be happening i'm just i'm not saying anything until they happen anymore because every time i say hey i'm gonna do this i never do it so some things are gonna happen maybe we'll see what happens you know i'm excuse me we got some really important things going to happen you need to come in and make sure they happen yeah and you're gonna love it i'll be there all right i'm gonna be there too every now and again i i actually you know can actually listen to those things and and just listen it's kind of nice so it was something new to me because like i told you that day i i've never done any kind of podcast before and it kind of gets addictive after a while i think i went through and listened to like about eight or ten of them in a row like i was changing heat exchanger doing all kinds of things that just i've done it so many times i didn't have to like focus on nothing and i just jamming away at it it was kind of cool i like it it's really fun stuff so i don't want to tell you anymore because you only hear the same song so many times but one that's good that's hvac is um my buddy christiano from rhino strategic solutions which i think i've you've heard me talk about haven't you adam yeah um he has it's called our to the point podcast that's hvac related um that's really good i didn't even know about it i knew him had no idea he had a podcast and um that's another hvac one that's really really good um he's got a good podcast so yeah i usually just type in hvac and see what i find and and start you know clicking on them and then seeing what they've got because i'll use um what the heck is that thing called because i it doesn't necessarily really download it let me look and see what it is called well in the next couple of weeks listening to um yeah it's just called podcast it's got like this little weird well right there you can see that you're there there it is so yeah yeah if we knew it in school and we're hearing guests um even working this we were supposed to do this show a long time ago and we're just now doing it we're gonna be a guest on um it's called the air conditioning guys i think they're um they're a pretty pretty big show out of australia really um yeah an hvac podcast is two brothers and um i've been talking back and forth these guys for a while but it was like the time zone and it would be like hey man can you get up at like 4 30 i'm like fuck how i can can you throw something at them when you do it yeah i want you to say the dingo stole my baby yeah um let me let me make sure on this email it's got yeah it's called the air conditioning podcast says hot topics and cold hard facts but yeah there's two brothers out of uh australia everybody over there's fridges really but i'll stop talking i know you were trying to end the show like i'm surprised she hasn't walked away yet it's kind of like the dog's been sleeping on the lap for out and how long it uh but no it's all good i just i don't i don't want to like run it into the ground i'm still got 41 still hanging along that's really surprising that's cool so they really like us they really do that's cool so yeah but yeah if you want to hang out here we can shut her down we can let these guys go to bex i figured a lot of them you know on the east side here you know they're probably getting late into the evening here let me bring it a little closer for you you ready sure all right guys till next time we'll catch you on the next one gillian adam you guys want to hang around just hang on ready bye bye bye thanks now bye bye bye bye i want to see motion movement bye bye okay bye take care bye bye no i got youtube over here it's the other button you ain't where did all the bye bye thing go it's playing is it okay they're hearing it then so bye later bye bye