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It's day 38 of Israel's war against Hamas. And the IDF continues to make significant gains in Gaza, saying today its forces have taken out almost half of the terror groups, top field commanders in the northern half of the strip. But that is coming at a price with the IDF confirming the deaths of two more soldiers bringing to 44. The number of fallen in the Gaza operation. Another fatality in the north as well. As a civilian worker for Israel's electric company, 56 year old Shalom Aboudi dies from wounds sustained yesterday from his Bola rocket fire. This, as Israel continues to strike military positions of the Iran backed militia inside south Lebanon. Let's go now to the south of Israel to stir out and our correspondent there, Zach Anders. And Zach, it sounds like really the Israel making very significant gains there in Gaza City. Really narrowing in now on the Shifa Hospital, which is of course the site of also one of the top command centers, or the top command center of Hamas in the northern Gaza strip. And Kolev coming in this evening, Defense Minister Galant says that Hamas has lost control of the Gaza strip. This at the same time, we are seeing independently confirmed pictures, photographs from Israeli troops inside the Palestinian defunct Palestinian parliament building. That's notable because this is several blocks away from Shifa Hospital where the battle or the siege for that hospital is ongoing. Underneath lies what the IDF says is a command center for Hamas. Right, but of course Hamas still with the capability of firing rockets. And as we noted in the beginning of this broadcast an hour ago, still able to fire off around at Central Israel, including here in Tel Aviv where we heard the booms of the interceptions from the Iron Dome system. And we saw those outgoing rockets heading your direction Kolev, earlier that happened about an hour ago. Now those interceptions taking place in Ashkelon, we are seeing reports that bits of debris fell in an area around Ashkelon and struck what appears to be several vehicles, started a fire, working to bring more information on that for any reports of injuries right now. MDA McGahn Dovedom says that they're still working on assessing the situation. For those rocket fires we were able to tell at least one of the barrages, the earliest barrage in these evening hours did appear to come from the northeast corner from the direction and distance of Bet Hanun. That's significant because that is indicative that there are rocket launch sites still in Northern Gaza where the heaviest idea of airstrike and artillery activity has been targeting these launch sites specifically, of course, they are numerous. All right, Zacan is there in sterot. Thank you for that. And with us, it's with us still Middle East correspondent Ariel. Osran, we are joined by Professor Alon Tal. He's a former member of the Knesset for Benigance's blue and white party. His chair also of the Department of Public Policy at Tel Aviv University. And Alon, some significant news out of Gaza this evening. Zac mentioning this photo taken by IDF troops in what was the former parliament building or office. We're seeing it on the screen there of Gaza and reports that Gaza has basically lost control certainly of the northern part of the strip. So we could be coming shortly to a key turning point in the battle at least for the northern half of Gaza. I think so. The question, of course, is if they have five different full battalions there with the Hamas, three of them in the south. But it does seem that the IDF has taken a real chunk out of the manpower and the operational capacity. I just think we have to get ourselves away from this notion that the Shefa Hospital is some sort of a capture the flag model of concrete. Or a Berlin in World War II. Exactamente. The tunnel network is enormous. It is vast. It is labyrinthal. And from what we know, that people move around every night the top leadership. And so although we can be encouraged and impressed by the professionalism and the meticulousness of the IDF, I think it's a little bit early to start saying that the tide has completely turned. Sure, of course. Of course. And of course there is still the northern front. Let's go to, in fact, go to our correspondent, Nicole Sadek, who is there, right by the Israel Gaza border. That front continues to be active. And unfortunately, as we mentioned, a fatality, a civilian fatality today from that rocket incident yesterday, Nicole. Yeah, Kalev, certainly an active scene up here. And we're actually hearing new reports from the IDF chief of staff who was here in the north earlier today in Spat or Safed in English, which is not far behind me here in northern Israel. Kalev, a security assessment with some of the troops here in the north and said that he's still maintaining a high level of security here in the north because he's preparing, he says, in his words, to continue to make sure that any of the civilians, any one of the residents who have evacuated, we're speaking about tens of thousands of residents within a four kilometer radius from the border who have been asked to evacuate now five weeks into the start of the war. They still haven't been able to return home and Herzi Alevi said he wants to make sure that when residents do come back and do return to their homes, they feel safe. He says residents will not be coming back here without that layer of security and safety. And so there's not much information about the plans that he approved, but action plans here in the north were approved. And it really all goes to show that the IDF is taking all of these threats and increased threats from Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon. They're taking those threats seriously. This new statement from the IDF chief of staff also comes after we heard from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier today. Also reiterating similar sentiments, stating that any of the firing that we're seeing from southern Lebanon is going to be met with a stronger fire from Israel and that they're going to respond by any means necessary to eliminate the threat that we are seeing. As I said, it is an increased threat throughout the day. We continue to see mortar shelling, rockets fired, even alarms for different unmanned aerial vehicles in the area as well. And so this is what we've been seeing for the past several days and it certainly seems to be picking up. All right, Nicole Zedek there on Israel's Northern Frontier by the Lebanon border. Thank you for that. Now the former Israeli Justice and Interior Minister Guido Sahr who joined the emergency unity government last month as part of Benny Gantz's National Unity Party and now sits in the security cabinet that speak earlier today with I-24 News. Here's what he had to say about this recent escalation in the north and also the potential day after in Gaza once Hamas is defeated. He decided in the security cabinet to concentrate on the southern front on defeating Hamas, returning our hostages back home and defeating Hamas eliminating its governmental and military capabilities. And that's what we're doing over the last five weeks. We are ready in the north and we are reacting to every provocation of Hisbola. We act decisively and we do what we have to do but we don't have an intention to initiate a full scale war in the north. Of course it can happen and we will be ready and prepared to do what we need to do if that will happen but it is not our objective. I think we are of course thinking and dealing with this issue but I think it's really too early to speak on the day after we are right now in the middle of a war. It will continue for a while. We are decisive to meet our objectives, our goals and this is the most important thing right now about the Palestinian Authority. We have here some realistic questions. First of all, whether the PA, which is not very capable to control over its territory in Judea and Samaria, like in Geneva, for example, how they can control Gaza Strip? It seems, first of all, just not so realistic. Second thing is the moral problem we have with an authority that pay money to murderers or to families of terrorists according to the crimes they did an authority that is conducting incitement in large scale in its schools, in its textbooks. And this is something that is very severe because it's already poisoning the new generation. I think speaking about the day after, we must think of a way how to build a new generation without this poison, without this hatred, without this beliefs to kill Jews and destruction of the Jewish state. And I'm not sure the Palestinian Authority is the right partner in order to do so according to our experience with the Palestinian Authority over the last 30 years. Well, Charlie, you don't start making some valid points about the Palestinian Authority. But of course, that does leave the question is who is going to imagine, at least manage at least the civil affairs of the Gaza Strip once this operation, at least the military side of it ends. Even Israel said it wants security control. It certainly doesn't want to manage the civil affairs of over 2 million Palestinians. I think when we look through the options, assuming that we're not going to find a long list of volunteers from neighboring or friendly Arab countries to come in and help. The only realistic option is to give administrative authority to the Palestinian Authority in terms of running the day-to-day civilian functions. And for the IDF in the short term, at least, maybe in the long term, to be overseeing the security much like we have an Area B in the West Bank. There's a model, it's not perfect, it's got its flaws, but it has worked now for many, many years and we know how to make that work. Assuming the Palestinian Authority, I was in fact encouraged when I saw that Abu Mazen recently told the Americans, yes, I will step up and do that. And of course, there's no illusions to me about the flaws of an elderly. What can be violently skeptical about that? But nonetheless, the options are not great and that may be the only one that's really available. Well, that may be a position perhaps acceptable to the party that you're identified with that of Benny Gantz. But certainly, and not even all its members because we just heard from Juan Guido Tsar, who was a member of that current book, Constellation or List, who is expressing strongly his reservations. But it's hard to imagine the government in its current Constellation, even making even with all those reservations coming to the position you just articulate. Bueno, lo que es cierto. Guido Tsar comes from the right side of the political map. He's a rational person and everything that he concerns in concerns of me as well. But at the end of the day, the alternative is for Israel to reoccupy the Gaza Strip. And I don't think that anybody think that's a good idea. Well, there are some who do, but this early meant a extremist minority in the country. Well, of course, all that has to come at the end of Israel's military operation, whose primary purpose besides destroying Hamas or its military capability, is the freeing of the 239, at least 239 confirmed hostages being held in the Gaza Strip. Now, one of them is Alex Danzig. He's a 75-year-old historian who specializes in researching and teaching about the Holocaust, especially in Poland. He's been working for decades at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial Museum in Jerusalem. It is a bitter irony then that on October 7th, he became one of the victims in the deadliest day in Jewish history since that Nazi era. He's not been seen or heard of since Hamas terrorists attacked Kibbutz near Oz, and he's believed to have been taken hostage from there into Gaza. And joining us now is his son, Ben Danzig. Ben, I know it's difficult. Take us back to the morning of October 7th, when you first understood what was happening down south and near Oz and learning about your father's fate. Hi, everyone. To tell you the truth, I don't understand what's happening, and it's now it's day 38. I don't understand up to now, OK? Because the fact, the simple fact, is that no Israeli force was there to protect us. No airplanes, no aircrafts, no tanks, no soldiers. So my point of view is really changed from day one or two. Now it's day 38. Right. What did you hear, though, from when did you first learn about what was happening down south? And did you make efforts to contact your father? What happened on that day? What happened on the days that Hamas attacked Kibbutz near Oz in a way that he didn't attack no other Kibbutz, you know? There are Kibbutzes also that suffer very, very much. But what happened in Kibbutz near Oz was actually exsituating our whole community, including crime wars that I don't even want to repeat. At least it's not my job to do that. Concerning my father, my father was, you know, in Israel, you say, in Jewish mentality, kind of a way, like he grew up, you know, with the land, you know, also walking the land as a farmer. But his most, you know, his life factor was education, Holocaust, exchanging students in Yad Vashemi start to do that, he was the one that started to do that, he was the one that founded the organization that teach teachers how to guide in Poland and how to make the dialogue between the two cultures, you know, really happened through learning Polish mythology, connecting to Jewish history, which is one of the agent, you know, agent truth still remain, you know, the Bible is still there, you know. Right, and your brother, I understand, made a trip to Poland and met with the president there and spoke about your father there. Yeah, I think if you follow a little bit what happened in Poland with my father, you realize that there are really a lot of people that care, which is really nice to know, but my brother is doing an amazing job, you know. He also meet except the Polish president. He meet leaders in Europe, you know, trying to save my father life. My father is 75 years old. He had a really serious heart attack five years ago, you know. My soul is dealing with his thought, you know, what's going through his head, day 38, you know. And the tears that I have now in the morning is his thought, you know. Sure. Is what he's thinking. Ben, you know, you were an international channel as well as a local channel here in Israel. So I want to ask you what's your message using this platform, what's your message both to hear and to the world concerning your father and his fate. First of all, my message to the world concerning my father, but it's just my message to the world. And my message to the world is people that concern in love and raising kids in a normal quiet kind of environment. Please wake up and realize that the world is now going to end if we're not united in a kind of a way, in a kind of a string connecting, you know, the people that still care about life, you know. The second thing concerning my father is of course I want my father back in my life, I really miss him and he's a great man. But I will tell you that he boots nero. You know, we have 80 people inside. We have babies inside. We have pregnant women. We have my father, my uncle, my teachers. My whole community have been murdered, murdered, raped, you know. And kidnapped in a very brutal way, you know. Sure. It's a difficult, it's a horrific thing to think of. And as I said, one has to think back to the Holocaust, a subject your father certainly you studied and what happened. You know, you just don't have a choice. Right, you know, yeah. Because my father dedicated his life to exactly that. How to take one, you know, one kind of idea, you know. And just push it to the extent that it start to kill people, you know. That's what the Hamas doing. That's what other countries that support Hamas is doing now. They're supporting evilness, you know. Supporting blackness, you know, in the world, you know. And really, I hope that there are few leaders in the world that care about human life. Because I see a lot of leaders that care about power, care about weapons, care about killing, care about starting wars, care about oil, money, banks. I can continue two days now, you know. But please wake up, please. Right, right. Ben Danzig, of course, most of all, we join your morning for those friends you've lost and wish the safe and sound return of your father, Alex. Thank you. Yeah, there is one musician that played in your channel, Eitan Khadad, from Kibbutz Berry. He has been murdered and he's a great musician. You know, if I have the chance, I will say something about him. Eitan Khadad. Sure, so many people have been lost. Yes, too much. Too much, and hopefully those that have been, who are still alive and are being held prisoner in Gaza will get a safe return. Thank you, Ben Danzig, for joining us. Thank you for speaking to me. Always difficult, each one of these stories. But again, the Holocaust connection. This was a man. He was actually born after the Holocaust in Poland, but I believe he had a sister who was a survivor. Studied these atrocities, tried to then bridge a gap between Jews and Poles, which is why he was the personal interest of the Polish president was taken, and then he suffers this fate. It's almost unimaginable to think about. And the fact that this week President Herzog presented a copy in Arabic of Mein Kampf that was found amongst the Hamas terrorists, really suggests that these comparisons with the Nazis is not far-fetched. That's exactly who they wanted to be. That's the ideology which they embraced. It's not just anti-Israel, it's anything Jewish. Right, yes. Yeah, I know, and another parallel is the fact that entire family's communities were destroyed. I mean, if we're looking at Nile Oz, it's one of the smaller border communities, but just about a third of the kibbutz was either kidnapped or murdered. And so you have, for instance, in Kfar Azar, and the young family's neighborhood. 15 young families lived there on the eve of October 7th. Only two families remained afterwards. And so these are entire families. There's an entire three-generational family in Haldhasta, Jengaza, but also in these border communities, entire families erased. And given that the survivors of these communities have relocated, it is not sure if these communities will even return. And so the current situation right now in these border communities, they look like a war zone with these communities that were erased. And some may not return, because of the lack of sense of safety, even regardless of the outcome of the war. A lot, we don't know where the discussions are really at in terms of a possible hostage deal. There were reports of Khamas saying they've broken off. But we did hear Prime Minister Netanyahu say in interviews with American television, he's open to the idea within certain parameters. How do you see that? What should be the parameters for some kind of hostage deal that this government possibly could make, even in the coming days? Well, the typical response is, of course, these are details we shouldn't talk about. But what's clear is that Israel's going to have to return a lot of other prisoners. The Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange, 1,000, prisoners for one, created a precedent and expectation. So even if we change that equation, the fact that there have been committees that were created to discuss how you would negotiate. And there are always, I should put it, dismissed in the actual dynamics, means the situation. But I can't imagine. I was today at the hostage square, which is there, square in front of the Israel Museum, which has been renamed, meeting with some of the families there. And their ordeal is so acute. And the amount of support they have, I think that there would be strong public support to do a massive exchange in order to get back all of the. Right, we don't know in any way what conditions this would fall under. We have to say that one of the conditions that's been floated or people have discussed is allowing some of the leaders of Hamas to escape from the Gaza Strip, a bit of pill to swallow, in return for the hostages being freed. And that was something, of course, even beyond the freeing of prisoners that are being held currently in Israeli jails. Alon, Professor Alon Tal, Ariel Osoran, stay with us. We are going out for a brief break. We still expect the nightly briefing of Rear Admiral Daniel Higari, the IDF spokesperson within the, certainly within the coming half hour. We will bring you that live as it happens. But stay with us. We'll be back in just a few minutes with more of our special coverage, Day 38, Israel's war against Hamas. I have no idea where we see as our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. Welcome back to this special broadcast on I-24 News. We're gonna look at to one of the international reactions to events here. And it's a particularly upsetting one coming after that segment we just had speaking with the son of one of the hostages being held in Gaza. Now, the Swedish team Greta Thunberg gained global fame as a climate activist, but now she's leveraging that prominence to speak out on the Gaza conflict, taking a notably one-sided approach. Now, last week she tweeted a photo featuring her and other activists holding science in free Palestine and stand with Gaza, but there was not a word about Israeli citizens or hostages, and her original tweet included en la foto, for some reason, a toy octopus, and when Talk Back has pointed out, the image of an octopus has also used an anti-Semitic imagery to suggest Jewish power. She retweeted the picture without it. Yesterday Thunberg spoke at a climate change rally in Amsterdam, but again, use that platform to advocate on the Israel-Hamas conflict. Again, not mentioning Israeli civilians or hostages, and then this happened. The sides of the climate crisis have been experiencing the first hand consequences of it for decades now, and they have been sounding very lessening. The people in power have not been lessening. I have come here for a climate demonstration with the political view. Kyle, for those who don't know, along with being a former Knesset member and a professor at Tel Aviv University, you are one of the leading founders of the environmental movement in Israel. Some might say the key figure in the founding of the environmental movement. You are obviously an issue you are deeply connected with. I just want to get your reaction to Greta Thunberg using her platform to speak out, really advocating taking a side in this conflict, the side I have to say of Hamas. And of course, clearly upsetting some individuals like that gentleman who rushed the stage there. I gave him to hear about the climate, not to hear your political statements. And clearly upsetting me as well. I immediately tweeted that we are going to have to find para encontrar a otros héroes. Mira, me gustaría decir que Greta Thunberg, superoficial y muy ignorante respuesta, es disapointe, pero eso no es fuerte. No es tolerable, porque por 20 años, el Movimiento Environmental ha estado combatiendo una batalla de información, o desinformación, de la frontera climática, donde principalmente la industria de olor ha estado pagando para obfuscitar este tema y crear skeptos sobre la existencia de la crisis climática. Así que nuestra relajación es tan credible. Y cuando Greta Thunberg siga adelante, given her stature as maybe the most important global figure that speaks on behalf of the climate. It's certainly the most provisible. And takes a position which is really so just unacceptable. It's a blow not just to us climate activists in Israel, but in the world, because it does raise questions about our own reliability. Now, if you mind, there was a letter written by 100 Israeli environmentalists to Greta. And I'd like to just read one or two sentences from it, because I think that this is one thing where we, environmentalists tend to argue, but unless we agree. And they said, you know, we're hurt, shocked and disappointed with your tweets and posts regarding Gaza, which are appallingly one-sided, ill-informed, superficial, and are in complete contrast to your ability to deep dive into details and to the bottom of complex issues at best. Do you think Hamas represent human rights and freedom? Think again. So I think that we're all extremely angry at Greta Thunberg, who has, like you said, abused her stature. And I think harmed the global effort to create some sort of climate stability, because certainly the many, many people who would rather us not change the nature of our economy and move to a low-carbon economy and move forward are going to take advantage of her now questionable, her questionable reliability, and play against the climate movement. All right, let's go again, reiterate. This is not necessarily a criticism of somebody expressing sympathy for these civilians in the Gaza Strip. But the fact that she does so as we've taken a one-sided approach, no mention of the hostages, no mention of Israeli civilians. She said, well, I'm absolutely opposed to anti-Semitism, but you cannot identify with the Hamas at this stage and not see this as identifying with the organization whose stated goal is to kill Jews and eliminate Israel. All right, certainly environmentalists, like yourself, who kept passionately about this issue, certainly have a right to be angry and concerned about her statements. Now, the rocket fire that we've seen in the north of Israel did not prevent the funeral today in the town of Kiryat Shmona of IDF reserves master sergeant Sergei Shmurkin. He was killed this weekend in the Gaza Strip, one of the 44 soldiers who have been killed in the fighting specifically with inside the Gaza Strip in combat. Here's what his girlfriend, May, had to say at that funeral today in Kiryat Shmona. I cannot comprehend and my heart refuses to believe that this is our new reality. It's hardly been two weeks since I've sent you a letter when you were still fighting for us, my hero. And now I write you again, a letter which is an eternal memory. And today is also the day that the angel within you is spreading its wings and fly to the sky. I want to start by thanking our father in heaven for the privilege of loving you and feel complete next to you in the last years of your life, which are also the most beautiful years of my life. What may his memory be a blessing in, of course, those of the others who have fallen bravely in battle in the Gaza Strip and speaking within Gaza, from the other side, there are some news and developments out tonight, Ariel. Right, so Al Jazeera airing a audio recording shared with them by Hamas's military spokesperson, Al Jazeera, obviously the platform for Hamas and all their messaging moving out. And so some key points coming out from Abu Baida's speech, saying that the war waged by Israeli leaders is an attempt to eliminate our resistance, is an attempt to escape their resounding defeat in October 7th, not a surprise there. Also saying, now this is interesting regarding the videos and statements that Hamas has lost control over the Gaza Strip. So Abu Baida saying here that trust in the resistance does not exempt anyone. And that's key, I mean, you could say that's a clear statement, natural statement, but no, they feel that their support from the Palestinian street is waning. And so he's clarifying here. Even within the Gaza Strip. And so he's saying here that no one is exempt from supporting the Palestinian resistance as they call themselves. And also he's moving forward in some psychological warfare regarding what the terms were for a hostage deal didn't work out, truce that I don't think there's any point in diving specifically into those details because it's another part of Hamas's psychological warfare that they've been engaged in not just since October 7th, but October 7th given that they have Israeli hostages, they're using this obviously as the underbelly of Israeli society. And so the military spokesperson, Abu Baida, trying on the one hand to show, to say face outwards. Well, we have now Israel's military spokesperson is now starting to speak. Let's take a lesson. Good evening. The fighting in Gaza is ongoing. Ground and armored forces continue to strike terror infrastructures in the Shati refugee camp. Today they've arrived at the T.C. Hospital. I was joined by international correspondents. We exposed the terror infrastructure in the hospital and now expose what we saw there. And we'll prove to the world how Hamas turned the hospitals into its terror machine. We will show to the world how Hamas holds weapons in the hospital. We also have a suspicion that in the hospital some of the hostages were kept for some of the time. Israeli hostages were at the Rantisi Hospital that is under investigation. We know this also based on intelligence that validates this. The world needs to know what happens in the Gaza hospitals and work against the war crimes of the Hamas Isis. I will now show the evidence. I got back from Gaza, where I joined an operation inside the Rantisi Children Hospital. I went to the hospital with a video camera and personally documented more concrete evidence. The concrete evidence are that Hamas uses hospitals as an instrument of war. Underneath the hospital, in the basement, we found a Hamas Command and Control Center, suicide bomb vests, grenades, AK-47 assault rifles, explosive devices, RPGs, and other weapons, computers, money, et cetera. And we also found signs that indicate that Hamas held hostages here. This is currently under our investigation. But we also have intelligence that verifies it. Additionally, we found evidence that Hamas terrorists came back from the massacre on October 7 to this hospital, among others, after butchering Israelis in their homes, executing the innocent, murdering entire families, burning babies, burning young women alive, and uses these children's hospital Rantisi to hide. Hamas hides in hospitals. Today, we will expose this to the world. For the last week, we have been conducting an effort to safely evacuate the patient being treated there. Y en otros hospitales, también. Israel ayudó el manager del hospital, evacuó el gaza al paciente a un hospital más seguro. Hacemos informado por el hospital que los últimos 18 pacientes en el hospital de Rantisi se evacuaron a un hospital más seguro. Esto es porque nuestra guerra es contra el Hamas, no contra las personas en Gaza, especialmente no contra los hundidos, o contra las mujeres, o contra los niños. La guerra es contra el Hamas, que usa ellos como niños humanos. Ahora voy a compartir la fila roja que filmamos hace pocas horas, demostrando que el Hamas sistemáticamente lleva su máquina de estero en los hospitales en Gaza. Esto es el hospital de Rantisi, junto al complexo de la escuela, pero también hay un terrorista, uno de los líderes del terrorista es uno de los terroristas del comando naval, es el comandante del comando naval de Hamas, y este complexo está junto al hospital de Rantisi. Estoy hablando de lluvias, lluvias de lluvias. ¿Qué hemos encontrado? Y verás en el video que hay un tonel junto al terrorista construyendo, que tiene paneles soleros por encima, junto a la escuela, y junto al hospital. Estamos ahora intentando indicar la ruta del tonel al hospital. Estamos investigando ahora mismo con nuestra equipo de ingeniería. Pero tenemos evidencia de que este tonel va a esta dirección. En el hospital, en la construcción que está ubicada en el red, hemos revelado la infraestructura de Hamas en el basamento. Estamos aún en operación que investiga otros flores en la construcción, y esta operación aún está conduciendo. Voy a mostrar el video ahora mismo. Este es el área donde el tonel está quedado, junto a la escuela, junto al hospital. Están construyendo esos tonelos, específicamente, junto a la ubicación sensitiva. Un robot está subiendo al tonel. Veas el panel, el panel de electricidad, y los wires subiendo al tonel. Está subiendo al tonel de energía solar, en la casa, para mantener energía en el tonel. En vez de esta energía, veas, este es el tonel de cobertura, que tiene un ladrón más de 20 metros abajo, y luego tenemos una puerta, el robot ha encontrado una puerta. No es nada más, pero un tonel de terror. Estamos aún conduciendo y investigando este tonel. Pero toda su infraestructura indica que este es un tonel de terror construido junto al hospital y junto al ranticis. Este es el hospital de ranticis. Un hospital de niños. Este signo dice que es para cancer, para los que tienen cancer. En este edificio, veas la infraestructura de terror, ahora te voy a mostrar. Clique. Este es el tonel. Clique. Ok, ahora este es el hospital de ranticis en el basamento, en el edificio que te he mostrado. Hamas ha creado una ubicación dentro del hospital, y se ha conectado con el resto del hospital. Dentro de este edificio, hay un armario con granades, vestidos, bombas, RPGs. En un basamento, se supone que es un basamento para niños, para hidros. Hamas ha tomado toda esta área bajo su control y ha conducido la guerra contra los israelíos en este hospital. Estos son los géneros seriosos que incluso take a risk for the patients inside the hospital. Estos son explosivos, estos son vestidos bombas que veas en el edificio aquí. For terrorists to hold a bomba on them in a children's hospital. Next to hostages, as we presume. Clique. Stop. This is a motorcycle, like you have seen in the day of the 7th of October. It also has a bullet inside it. An underneath him is something that we think that is part of a hostage head, head. Seret. Head branch. Clique. They brought the motorcycle inside the basement with a hostage presume. This basement also leads to a place we presume signs of indication that hostages were being held. On this chair, we saw a rope, a chair, a clothes and a pod of the health organization who gives money to this hospital. This is a war crime and a baby bottle above it. This is in the basement. No babies should be in the basement. This is a war crime. This is a crime against humanity. And we also saw an improvised toilets nearby. You don't build an improvised toilets in the basement unless you want to build an infrastructure to hold hostages. We also find some baby stuff over there and we're still investigating everything. We brought our forensic teams. They're on the way to the hospital to investigate all the evidence that we have. They built a small kitchen next to a room that was hiding. This room got a ventilation from the outside and improvised ventilation. And we assume that this area and this room weren't either for terrorists staying there or for terrorists and hostages. And we will show you the signs that indicate that. Nobody put curtains behind a wall. Why do you put curtains when there are no windows? Unless you want to fill something. Unless you want to create a place that nobody knows whether it's in the basement or other place. And there there is this list with days, marks the days from the 7th of October and has the name that Hamas gave to the operation. Operation of a laxa of the mask of a laxa. As the dates, the numbers of the days that followed by, I don't know exactly what it indicates. When did they left this area? But you have to remember we evacuate the hospital with the patients. They might have left with the patients. They might have run away through tunnels and we have signs that they had hostages with them. It's still under investigation but there's enough signs to indicate that. I was there. I was thinking when I was there about babies, hostages babies, Israeli hostages babies, women, children. This is Hamas barbaric, barbaric terror organization. This is Hamas using hospitals as human shield, as terror machines. And this is not the last hospital like this in Gaza and the world should know that. That's a crime. That's a war crime. That's a crime against humanity. That's against international law who gives money to these hospitals who shares this hospital and embraces this hospital is helping Hamas' effort. We're trying to shift the Gazan to a safe area in the south and reveal those hospitals as terror machine and the world should know it and the world should not forget those crimes against humanity done to Israel. We will free our hostages from Gaza and free Gaza from Hamas for the sake of the people of Israel for the people of Gaza as well and the world. Questions. Tata Lofea Garis, Aguim, Chachote 14. We know that Sal's forces are operating around the hospitals or other lands to operate inside the hospitals after what you've just revealed. I was just with the fighters. I don't remember since all my days in service in 30 years such strength. Of the IDF, I saw tanks. I saw the best fighters of the State of Israel. Reservists, special forces. I went with them into the hospital. We operated inside the hospital. We will operate against terror to expose terror to dismantle Hamas to bring our hostages back home in any way possible. Operational or intelligence and bring about safe borders for the State of Israel. ¿Epros se va a hacer? Tata Lofea Garis, Jonathan Rave, Chachote 11. We have just heard a briefing from the IDF spokesperson. We are Admiral Daniel Higari, a very different one from the ones he's given previously. This one was given mostly in English and it focused on one particular topic, the way that one of the hospitals of the Gaza Strip, the Rantisi Hospital in North Gaza has been used both as a center for Hamas terror operations but providing pretty damning proof that that hospital was used as a prison I would say for some of the hostages including even apparently some of the infants as were taken hostage by Hamas on October 7th. Ariel, an extraordinary briefing I thought from Daniel Higari. And a briefing that really undermines all the claims that Hamas is not using hospitals that this is irrefutable proof that Hamas is using not only humans as shields but sensitive the most sensitive civilian institutions as it's a lifeline and this besides being a born this is something that should be seen by the world and you know This is these nightly pressers that Higari gives are Israel's best way to combat these claims that don't only discredit what Israel is doing but gives proof to those claiming that what Israel is doing is doing to try and uproot Hamas not only from Gaza population but also from Gaza key institutions, sensitive institutions like hospitals. A lot of word about whether this will have impact on the international community and that diplomatic window that we've been hearing about. I think that Israel has to provide a very clear message and that is if democracies are unable to win the wars that our enemies started were finished and when hopefully when the great decent majority of at least of western countries that countries that matter take a look at the means to do this they'll understand that Israel has no choice and with 200,000 Israelis waiting to go home I think this kind of message is important and mostly we have to explain that if Israel fails then the next time you're gonna I mean Hamas has said it before we're just to start. Okay, briefly some breaking news about a hostage but in a different hostage and held in a different theater but certainly with connections to Israel and connections to the conflict in Gaza. Right, we're talking about a video released of Israeli Russian researcher Elizabeth Surkov. She was last known to be kidnapped by Khatib Hezbollah that's a pro-Iranian Shiite militia in Iraq. There is no information about her whereabouts in the video. She, which is a proof of life she talks about her background obviously many of the things that she says it's clearly under coercion and she also talks about the war in Gaza similar to the propaganda videos that Hamas has been releasing of the hostages. Again, like in all these videos the only silver lining is that this is a proof of life. Right, because she does reference the situation in Gaza so clearly it is a current it is a current issue we have followed that story and we spoke with her sister here and clearly this is connected perhaps a sign of desperation of the forces in the Gaza Strip that after so many months they've resorted to as you said you creating this video clearly out of what seems to be the only effective weapon they have is psychological warfare unfortunately. All right, Ariel El Suran Professor Alontal thank you for joining us and thank you for joining us. We've had a very, as I said before a very dramatic presentation by the IDF spokesperson Danny Hongari providing proof of the way in which hospitals in the Gaza Strip by U.S. terrorist centers and at least one used as a to house Israeli hostages being held in Gaza. We're going out now on this program but stay with us we'll continue our coverage here on I-24 news of Israel's war against Hamas. Made for me a unique concept in Israel custom made men's fashion to your measurements. Made for me designer of all your events. Schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il Made for me official dresser of I-24 news. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. Esta semana en News 24 Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 news. Bonita abdacted women with gunshot wounds, bone fractures and additional physical injuries that happened during the brutal abduction. Women with breast cancer and their ongoing medications. Women with chronic illness including complex cardiac conditions. Good evening from Tel Aviv and welcome to I-24 News ongoing coverage of Israel at war. I'm Ariel Levin Waldman. We are now 38 days into that war and we're going to open by looking at this image. Israeli troops holding up the flag in the heart of Hamas's legislative council building as the IDF cuts ever deeper into the terrorist fortresses. Fighting is fierce and dirty. This video captures the moment. Hamas terrorists fired heavy weapons at Israeli troops from inside the Al Quds Hospital in Gaza City. It's an obvious violation of international laws. The IDF says that terror cell has been eliminated. This is all coming as the IDF is surrounding Gaza City's largest hospital at Shifa. It's built on top of Hamas's underground command bunkers. According to the United Nations, about half of the patients and health care workers have left but hundreds remain inside. The U.S. condemned Hamas for using hospitals and using civilians as human shields. Moving on to the northern front, identified now a 56-year-old electrical engineer died after yesterday's attack by Hezbollah in northern Israel. Shala Maboudi is the third Israeli civilian to be killed by that group since October 7th. And we are going to take a look now on the southern border where our correspondent, Zac Anders, is standing by. Zac, it's good to have you with us. We've been hearing so much in the last few days about the fighting taking place around Shifa Hospital, moving ever closer to Hamas's underground command center. Give us the latest from that operation right now. Well, within the last few hours, Defense Secretary Galant claims that Hamas has lost complete control over the Gaza Strip, that their forces have fallen apart. That speaks to the level of activity that we've seen in the northern Gaza Strip and Gaza City, where the IDF has rolled through many streets where there's been fighting and gotten closer and closer to Shifa Hospital where there's been more resistance, perhaps speaking to Hamas's intent to defend that command center underneath the hospital. Now, in the last 24 hours, the United Nations, or sorry, the European Union has stressed and passed a resolution that condemning Hamas for using these hospitals throughout the Gaza Strip as areas of operation, using the hospitals as points where they fire off as the video is shown. We've shown throughout the day firing off RPGs from locations around the hospitals and targeting IDF troops. And do we have any inclination or indication, I should say, of just how extensive the IDF ground operations have been, how far they've penetrated and ultimately how much is left to do in the northern part of Gaza? Well, as you spoke to just a moment ago with that image of the troops inside the parliament building, that's significant because this parliament building is located several blocks away from Shifa Hospital. You see in that photo that they're posing with the Israeli flag. They're side by side. They look rather comfortable. They don't look like they're under fire. That appears to show that the area surrounding the hospital is within the IDF scope of control, that they have operational security in many of these places. Of course, you get close to the hospital and the fighting picks up. Well, thank you very much, Zach. We'll be back with you as the situation develops on the ground. But we did recently just have that briefing from the IDF and we're going to take you to a quick clip of that so you can hear the latest from them directly. I just got back from Gaza where I joined an operation inside the Rantisi Children Hospital. I went to the hospital with a video camera and personally documented more concrete evidence. The concrete evidence are that Hamas uses hospitals and as an instrument de la guerra. Underneath the hospital, in the basement, we found a Hamas Command and Control Center, suicide bomb vests, grenades, AK-47 assault rifles, explosives devices, RPGs and other weapons, computers, money, etc. And we also found signs that indicate that Hamas held hostages here. This is currently under our investigation, but we also have intelligence that verifies it. Additionally, we found evidence that Hamas terrorists came back from the massacre on October 7 to this hospital, among others, after butchering Israelis in their homes, executing the innocent, murdering entire families, burning babies, burning young women alive and uses these children's hospital Rantisi to hide. Hamas hides in hospitals. Today we will expose this to the world. For the last week, we have been conducting an effort to safely evacuate the patient being treated there and in other hospitals as well. Israel helped the hospital manager evacuate the Gaza patient to a safer hospital. Yesterday, we were informed by the hospital that the last 18 patients in the Rantisi hospital had safely evacuated to a safer hospital. This is because our war is against Hamas, not against the people in Gaza, especially not the sick, wounded, or the women, or the children. Our war is against Hamas who uses them as human shields. And to discuss this further, we are joined in studio by Major General Etan Dengoud, former coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian territories with the IDF. Thank you very much for being with us. Now, Israel has been showing recordings from phones, showing Hamas's use of human shields, showing them not letting people evacuate. This is the first time we have video evidence of them doing direct violations of international law from the hospital. Does this actually change anything on the ground or in the international arena? I think it just strength was going in the ground because on the ground, we complete to surround the north part of Gaza. It's not under control of Hamas, not civil, and not also on creating any kind of being on the ground and taking. But we are not arrogant army. We are an army that is under fighting. We didn't complete yet the mission. It will take weeks, even in the north part of Gaza. There is a lot of area while the underground tunnels should be under a step by step in order to destroy what is going down there. But on above it, up on the ground, you see that Israel strength its claims and legitimation. What we said, that hospitals are used as a headquarters, as a place of creating a terror and violence of hiding themselves after what they butchered families on the 7th of October. And I think that this evening is combination of showing the strength of the IDF in Gaza. And I say again, we are not arrogant army. We have to continue to be careful and just to bring the evidence to the people in the world to show them what is in the hospital and the strength that Israeli activities in moving hospitals to the south, bringing field hospitals from all over the world and giving a real medical treatment to those who are needed on area while it will be done by professional crews that can work, not can be under threat from the Hamas, what and how to do. And also, we have in the same time to complete the mission. It's a war. Hamas will not be anymore in Gaza, not controlling and not being a strong military power because this is the state of Hamas. And the state of Hamas must be exploited by Israel after what they done on the 7th of October. And on the other end, it will take time, it will take weeks, but I raise that on the other end, we have to start to move ahead the what we call the day after and to see how we succeed to supply the winter is on the door now. We have to bring the best thing we can do under the winter time to the population, but we have to keep the safe of our soldiers, of our units to kill the terrorists, to kill their leadership and you see today one very important symbol, the parliament of Hamas that has been under Israeli soldiers and I say again, it's not arrogant, it's a war and we have to continue step by step and to do it professionally, to be careful, to work on it together, a combination between air force, ground force, tanks, engineering, infantry together and to continue to move step by step to complete this mission. What will be with the area? Next station, probably Hanyunes. This is the place that ISS that nowadays that Sinwau and his body and his people, his staff, is the main leadership of Hamas, is there and we have to do it, but I'll say again, you have to make it in very specific way. It's I think one of the most complicated combat that we can point in this world in the last 30 years. We're going to go much deeper into this in a brief moment. Before we do, we are going to turn to look at the northern front as well because our correspondent, Nicole Sadek, is standing by there in northern Israel. This has been escalating ever more every single day on the northern front. Rockets reaching as far as Haifa in some cases, just outside on the outskirts. Ultimately, what is the current situation there as things are heating up in the north? Well, the IDF chief of staff, Herzi Halevi, says that they are preparing plans to restore the security situation here in the north because we continue to see it escalate. Earlier today, Herzi Halevi was in Swat or Safed in English, which is not far from me, where I am here in northern Israel, near the border with Lebanon and in that security, that situational assessment to the IDF chief of staff said that they are looking and preparing active plans and they also saying that the northern command is still going to be on high alert because in order for all of the residents who have evacuated, the tens of thousands of residents who have all evacuated from that four kilometer radius around the northern border. In Halevi's words, if they've evacuated, they need to feel safe when they come back. And he said that the IDF is going to work and make sure that they are in a safe situation and that it is safe for them to move back whenever the time is. So it seems that the IDF is certainly planning to continue to attack Hezbollah hardest. Hezbollah continues to fire rockets, continues to fire missiles, mortars, everything towards this northern area. Even earlier today, the IDF confirming that the various different locations in the north, they were terrorist firing at several locations in the north and the IDF responded to all of those incidents with artillery fire towards those Hezbollah terrorists. The IDF also stating that one of their tanks struck a terror cell that was preparing to launch some anti-tank guided missiles towards northern Israel. So we are seeing an increased level of activity. But from what the IDF is saying, they're saying they're monitoring it clearly and they're going to make sure that it will not continue from everything that we have seen. Because as I said, the residents right now, they might not be here. It might be empty, but at some point they need to return. And if we continue to see this tit for tat firing, we continue to see mortars shelling. Rock, it's fired to these northern communities. The residents are not going to move back and the IDF knows that. And so they say that they will make sure that they are safe. Absolutely. Thank you very much, Nicole. The question of securing that northern border is going to hang over security forces going forward. It's actually all the more pressing because back in May, Hezbollah's elite red one force rehearse an assault on northern Israel, including storming the border fence and a mock seizure of an IDF outpost. That scenario sounds very familiar. It's exactly what Hamas's elite Nukwe unit did last month in the south of Israel. So what exactly is the red one unit? And could it still surprise the IDF in the north amid this escalating cross-border fire? Well, Middle East correspondent IRL Osiron has more. Hamas's October 7th onslaught on southern Israel caught the country completely by surprise. Well, maybe not entirely since the IDF had been preparing for such a scenario, just not from Gaza. En fact, it had known about it for years. I say to the fighters of the Islamic resistance, be prepared for the day when war is imposed on Lebanon and the leadership of the resistance may ask you to conquer the Galilee. The elite commando force tasked with this mission, the red one unit, named after the late leader of Hezbollah's military wing, Imad Mournia, nicknamed Hajred one, and with 5,000 highly trained fighters, the main mission of the red one unit is to infiltrate into Israeli territory and conquer towns or bases in the Galilee. The red one force is considered Hezbollah's most elite unit. It is well trained in urban and guerrilla warfare given its extensive experience in fighting terrorism in Syria. Back in 2014, Lebanon's pro-Hezbollah El Mayadin TV station aired a breakdown of Hezbollah's attack strategy, copied almost exactly by Hamas last month in its rampage in the south. It begins with a massive opening rocket barrage. Then, the elite forces five battalions storm the border, each designated with taking control over a different area of Israel's north. The goal, to seize the territory for as long as possible, while killing as many Israelis, soldiers and civilians as they can. And following Hamas' success, Hezbollah's escalating cross-border attacks, including striking the border and creating gaps along the fence, has Israel concerned. Hezbollah is dragging Lebanon into a war. That might happen. It is making mistakes. And who makes these mistakes here? Those who will pay the price are first and foremost, Lebanon's citizens. What we are doing in Gaza, we can do in Beirut. The reason for these threats is their high level of concern regarding what is happening on the Lebanese front. Y su desarrollo en términos de la cantidad, la calidad y la profundidad. De hecho, continuaremos en esta posición y esta performance. Pay attention to what's happening on the ground, not what we are saying. Nasrallah suggested in his speech, and the situation on the ground is indeed slowly, but gradually escalating. Y por más de esto, vamos a volver al estudio donde el Major General Etan Dangut está con nosotros. Etan, hablábamos de la red-1 force, más o menos, la contrapartida, la Nukba force que se convirtió en el 7 de octubre. ¿Hay algún mundo en el que se puede ver donde esta guerra termina? Y están aún en la bordera norte, y las personas están capaces de regresar a sus hogares? No, la respuesta es muy clara. Creo que, primero de todo, el gobierno de Israel, el cabinet de la guerra, tiene que ir a su objetivo, el significado de que el día después, en uno de los propósitos, el objetivo es de cambiar la situación en la bordera norte, llevar a las personas que están viviendo en el norte, al lado de la bordera, mucho más seguridad, amor, confortable vida, y, por supuesto, después de lo que sucedió en el sur. Creo que es ahora desapareciendo de este objetivo. Seguramente, quizás te sorprenderá, y te puedo decir que, en mi opinión, la escalación en el norte está aún bajo control por ambos lados. Por lo tanto, los ambos lados están peleando entre la bordera, entre la escalación que está acercando, pero, en mi opinión, Gisbala está mirando lo que sucedió en el sur, hay una deterencia de lo que se vio en la foto en Gaza, hay una deterencia de recordar lo que es la memoria de 2006 en el sur en Lebanon, y sobre todo creo que la calculación iraniana, o sea, van a perder, pero una clave más profunda a la acercación de la proxies de Hamas y Gisbala en circunstancias. Así que creo que es cómo vamos a resolver o a lograr este objetivo. Es entre militarías y actividades políticas. En actividades políticas, hay muchas de Israel que me dirán, hay 1701 que lograron, después de 2006, la decisión de la Nación Unidad sobre hacer una forma de mover Gisbala y no fue respetada después de años. Hay una oportunidad que estará en acuerdo o, por una escalación que se hará, pero mantener las redlines para no llegar a un error porque nos hará mal, pero el precio, que en Lebanon, Gisbala, Irán, estará pagado, estará muy alto, y el segundo problema es Estados Unidos. En mi opinión, los obstáculos triángulos de Estados Unidos. Primero, en Gaza, un issue humanitario, veas que hay un tipo de proceso. Seguramente, el Bank West, las autoridades palestinianas para mantenerlos, el tercero y lo más importante para los Estados Unidos que la razón para la revolución profunda de lo que está pasando es para evitar una guerra en el norte porque hay un impacto en Estados Unidos, en Irak y en Siria, puede llevarles una guerra un año antes, la elección de Estados Unidos, y les da a Israel las redlines para no llegar a un error. Cuando combinas todos juntos, creo que las posibilidades para resolverla en la escalación, pero en control, y una manera de la calculación de Irán sobre los precios para lo que está pasando en el área van a moverlo para lograr eso, pero la última pregunta es si hay una oportunidad para lograrlo. La respuesta es, sí, pero va a llevar un montón de meses. Israel ha cambiado 130 grados el significado de continuar para mantener la tierra la seguridad. Y vamos a pasar un muy intensivo mes con problemas de seguridad incluso bajar la economía, pero después Israel va a llevarse a opciones y el futuro mucho más mejor que ahora. Tenemos para destruir este tipo de vida de Hamas Chisbala y para nuestros colegios de los países occidentales de Europa. Ten cuidado, va a venir a tu lugar si no estamos ayudando a destruirlo ahora, va a ser tu lugar tal vez no aquí, pero sobre 5 años te sentirás muy, muy fuerte en tus lugares. Vamos a continuar en un momento rápido, pero primero vea cuántos planos de Hamas fueron, porque no era solo Israel que fue under attack en octubre 7 aparentemente. Hamas había planos de extender más allá como el Bank West. Nuestro correspondiente Jonathan Regev tiene los detalles. Comenzando, pero decisivamente, la idea es llevar más y más de los noruegos en Gaza. Cada movimiento es peligroso como tonelos explosivos puede aparecer en cada paso y los terroristas pueden Still pop-up de la tierra. Como las fuerzas empujan, once again encuentran evidencias de áreas civiles utilizadas por terroristas por sus propias a veces usando sus propias hogares y familias como sonas. En el hogar del chief de la Amunidad de Amunidad de la Islámica Jihad hemos encontrado mucho de amunidad, vestidos militares, uniformes militares junto con imágenes de los líderes de la acción iraniana. Como opposede a los terroristas, Israel desea minimizar las casultades civiles y es por eso que la fulga es presentada por los soldados IDF al hospital del chief a pesar de la preocupación que eventualmente será utilizada por los terroristas escondidos en los tonelos debajo del hospital. Es también la razón detrás de los pasajeros de la salida permitiendo a Gaza ir hacia el sur y el flujo de la área de combate. La rueda es abierta los tropes israelí que estaban estando en el lado. Pero la rueda es abierta en Sarachadín Street. La rueda es abierta. Como la fulga ahora salió en la estripada, los planos Hamas para la fulga dentro del territorio israelí se han revelado. Según la posta de Washington, algunos de los militares traen suficiente comida, amunidad y equipamiento para que ellos estén más detrás de Israel más detrás de lo que eventualmente hicieron. Según el reporte, no solo las ciudades israelí que fueron después, pero posiblemente querían llegar a la Bank West, así que uniendo las dos fronteras palestinianas en lo que habría sido una gran victoria propagandora. Era un plan muy ambicioso que la instancia de la Estabilización Israelí simplemente se ha perdido. Cuando hay algo que va a suceder y no creemos que puede suceder o no queremos creer, encontramos todas las explicaciones, las excusas para explicarles a nosotros que esto no es cierto. Una vez más, Israel ha aprendido de una manera difícil que las propuestas y las capacidades de la otra lado deberían ser tomadas de serio. La movilización israelí puede que ha parado el plan de combinar las fronteras, pero el precio ha pagado. Más que 1,000 civilianos en las comunidades bordes que han sido matados deberían siempre servir como un recopilador. Y una vez más, regresamos a un gran general, Etan Dengue. En el estudio, vimos cómo las propuestas extenden lo que es traer a los jugadores de la Bank del Oeste. Finalmente, si Hamas está roto en Gaza, ¿is there going to be away to root them out of the West Bank as well? Creo, first of all, that Hamas is under a process to be broken in Gaza. They lost a lot, but still the mission is not completed. And we have all the time to put it in our minds. We have a lot to fight. The work you brought in, I don't know whether it's really right that Hamas plan to connect itself to the West Bank, but it is something that Hamas has signal since May 21, if you remember. They decided of a new strategic. They work for it almost in my opinion estimation. They work for it more than 10 years and their combination together with Hisbala and Iranian data that was put inside and helped them to translate it from plans to reality what they did. Hamas went inside Israel by I can estimate they in some places while they will be failed in few places they will succeed in a one or two or three it was enough for them but they succeed in the old places they entered to Israel. I think they were stopped very close to the where to the inside the country towards Beosheva or other places that could come. They were on the way but it shows you that Hamas is looking forward in this operation to be considered as the main power for the Palestinians. And we're going to continue this in a brief moment but first we're going to a quick break when we get back more discussion more topics. Stay with us. Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. La semana en News 24 Israel bajo ataque News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24 el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24 únicamente en I24 News. Thank you for staying with us. We're going to return to our discussion in studio with Major General Etan Dengut. I want to continue roughly where we left off because we had been discussing what the day after in Gaza might look like and not even the day after but during the military operation. Israel is progressing rapidly in the northern Gaza strip but it's not just the north. Hamas is going to be moving people to communists to the south of Gaza and everything in between. Ultimately even taking northern Gaza doesn't break Hamas. What comes next? We even didn't claim like this. It from the beginning I think IDF and the work cabinet of Israel declare that these goals will be achieved and it will take month or I may tell you even years but there is stages. I think the first stage now when you see the picture of the Hamas parliament tonight when you see what's going in the hospitals you see that Israel succeed to move up all Hamas process from north part of Gaza and not the underground. It means that this is a part of the mission. One thing it's clear Hamas cannot return back now to be an entity in Gaza. So when what you ask is what will be it will be together two process. One is the fact that the IDF will continue to fight, destroy, to kill. Hamas terrorist, Hamas leadership, Hamas civilian symbols of the authorities. Secondly, it will have to start and it in my opinion has been start already the basic of humanitarian support to the population on the south. It will have to be together. One principle Israel will continue to control the security situation in Gaza and will find itself fighting everywhere if you compare it to what happened on the West Bank from 2003 to 2007. It took Israel to complete the big operation we made and to fight against Jad Islamic and Hamas units in the south part of the West Bank. So we have to be patient who will be the players in this fact. In my opinion to build civil control, civil life, you need like a modular system. First of all, we will have to be a system by the international movements like Red Cross, UNRWA. Those will come. Secondly, we will have the roof of some in kickback countries, especially Egypt, by being the station of entering things for this population. The third will be those people who work in the civilian part like serving the population in some places we'll find. We will have to fulfill some missions. The next part will be like a committee that will come. This is my own extermination. It's not the government gay program. I might jump in now because we're still talking about what this discussion what happens in the semi-distant future. They're still the problem of Hamas on the ground still being a very strong. The fight will continue, but Hamas will move to be a guerrilla movement. Not anymore to be the controller of Gaza. What you see the picture now, even now the statement by the spokesmen and the others, it will be lower and lower and it will be step by step. Hamas will not decide for Gaza. Hamas will not be a card for playing for the future or for the people who are living in Gaza. That will be as more as Israel beat Hamas. I think you will see much more participants in the kind of the next shift of Gaza after or during this war. I want to bring in another angle of discussion here. Israel has made an effort to show maximum restraint in this war so far, minimizing collateral damage despite fighting in some of the densest urban sprawl on earth. Despite these efforts, international pressure on Israel is mounting reports circulating that it's only a matter of weeks before that pressure could threaten Israel's military goals. But in a war against terrorists that have zero uniforms, zero rules and zero limits, just what is permitted. The EU has finally now released a statement condemning Hamas's use of human shields, but still equivocating to demonize Israel. We condemn the use of Hamas as hospitals and people as human shields. And on the other hand, we ask Israel for maximum restraint and targeting in order to avoid human casualties. And for more on this, we are joined in studio now as well by Daniel Pomerance, CEO of Reality Check and a legal expert, particular international law. It's good to have you in here with us, Daniel. Thank you. The big question everyone's thrown around this entire war is proportionality. What is a proportional response to an enemy that burns children alive? I want to discuss just what Israel has done so far and what they could be doing under international law. Yeah, people throw around that word and they don't really understand what it means. I mean, does it mean that Israel should burn alive 40 children also and then call it a day? Clearly not. So what does it mean? And the answer is that it's not a matter of opinion. It's defined in a number of places, in particular, Section 51 to the first additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions, which says basically you have to be proportional to the threat that you're facing. There's more technical language, but that's really what it comes down to. The threat Israel's facing is the existence of Hamas. Their leadership has said we will do October 7th a second time and a third time and a fourth time. We found copies of a Mein Kampf in ISIS literature. This is a Nazi-based organization intent on annihilating Israel and the Jewish people. So the threat is Hamas' existence at all. Therefore, the proportional response has to be eliminating Hamas as an organization that's capable of functioning. Specifically, international law says that you cannot create harm to civilian people or infrastructure that is excessive in relation to the military objectives that you need to seek. So that could mean if Hamas puts 100 civilians in front of a rocket launcher, that 100 civilians might not be excessive if the rocket launcher has to be destroyed. So that's the way that international law works. It's not based on numbers. But if we do want to talk about numbers, here's an interesting number that hasn't been spoken about much, but really should. Hamas claims that Israel's killed over 11,000 people. Now there are a number of reasons why that figure might not be accurate. But even assuming that it is, Israel's destroyed over 15,000 targets. That means if you do the math, Israel has killed less than one person per strike. And over a fourth of Israel's strikes have killed no people at all. This is a military that's capable of destroying hundreds or thousands of people with a single attack. And yet, on average, has killed less than one person per attack. That alone shows you an enormous amount of restraint and caution on the part of Israel. And I actually want to look at this from a tactical level, too, as long as you still have you in studio general. Because you have experience fighting on the ground there and you can give us a description of just what that sort of dense urban fighting looks like. I think it's one of the main complicated urban area that has been under a fight during the last thousands of years. What you see here is the idea of succeed to connect together the way of working together with air force and ground forces together in order to reach or to strike targets that are recognized y identified as the targets of the enemy of those murderers. And you have to close a very close circles, first of all, plans and under your movement in activities unless you have to be on readiness. That's the way of evocating people from the north to the south because in everywhere you have people that are coming from the underground tunnels using RPGs, anti-tank missiles, etc. Shooting, lanchering and going back to the underground tunnels and escaping and using civilian areas as a shelter for themselves like what you see tonight with the hospitals and what was described by the Israeli. And I think by this Israel shows why Israel is waiting three days near Shifa Hospital in order, first of all, to strengthen the legitimation, to show the people we prefer to not to and it's danger for the soldiers not to move, not to maneuver it and to be around Shifa but show the world evidence what's going in Shifa or in Mantecio Hospital or in others just to bring the right of us to react and also to prepare a very clear intelligence to find the tree in the forest and to strike him. And Daniel, I want to go further into that because ultimately we do see these images people firing RPGs from outside of hospitals. These command centers being built directly under the hospitals under those circumstances what is permitted? What are the actions? Well, what's happening here is really extraordinary because there's what's permitted and there's what Israel's doing which is far more restrained than what international law requires. Right now, Israel's established a humanitarian corridor to allow civilians to escape out of the combat areas into relative safety. As civilians have been escaping, Hamas has been firing on Palestinian civilians and the IDF has been protecting those civilians by returning fire. Now, this is extraordinary. Think about what this means. The IDF is protecting Palestinian civilians. Hamas is attacking Palestinian civilians. This is at the very least rare if not entirely unique in the history of human civilization that a country is actually protecting the enemy's civilians while the enemy combatants are attacking those civilians. It's simply unheard of. So what Israel would have to do under international law is not intentionally target civilians, not act in a way que excesivamente harm civilians. Y cuando los ciudadanos están utilizando como héroes humanas, es muy difícil de hacer. Lo que Israel ha hecho es que, más allá de eso, los soldados israelíos están combatiendo para proteger a sus ciudadanos mientras Hamas está tirando a ellos. Por lo tanto, más de 40 soldados israelíos han desaparecido. Eso significa que no es una exageración decir que los soldados israelíos están literalmente sacrificando sus vidas para combatar a los palestinianos. Eso es simplemente extraordinario. ¿Cómo han dado los estrés israelíos para reducir las casualidades civiles para proteger a los civilianos? En este caso, ¿cómo es que Israel consiga a la comunidad internacional, la UN, y todos estos líderes del mundo diciendo que es excesivo para que se despliega? Hamas ha estado trabajando en esto por años y construyendo el caso para esto por años. Empecé con la Conferencia de Durban en 2001, y fue llamada diplomática en Tifada. Han investido un gran cantidad de dinero, diplomacia y recursos para construir una imagen de Israel como excesiva. Y la razón que han hecho es porque es la única manera que se puede ganar. Militaramente, no se puede romper la IDF. La única manera que se puede ganar es si la IDF stopa su operación antes de que es completo. Así que están intentando crear una situación en la que la IDF podría ser intentada para hacer eso. No creo que eso va a suceder, pero se ve que es su camino a su suceso y han investido un gran cantidad en intentando cumplir eso. ¿Tienes un ejemplo muy claro de qué empezó el segundo día de la guerra? Cuando Hamas ha intentado hacer un gran sonido todo sobre el mundo que Israel ha matado en el hospital, muchos de las personas con el lanzamiento o estresando ellos desde el aire. Luego, ¿qué fue encontrado? ¿Qué es el proof de Israel? Que fue un lanzamiento falso de roquete desde el Jihad islámico, creo. ¿Cómo muchos personas han sido matados en este reporte? ¿No hay menos de 5? El reporte dice que fue 500. A las agencias de inteligencia han establecido que es entre 10 y 50. Cuando veamos las figuras de las casultades, algunos de ellos no son realmente reales. Algunos son las personas que Hamas ha matado. De los 10,000 roquetes Hamas ha matado en Israel, 10% de ellos han desaparecido y han matado en Gaza. En el topo de eso, el preso asociado recibió un reporte exposiendo que Hamas, como una leyera, nunca distingüe las víctimas de los civilianos cuando les dieron las figuras de las casultades y nunca distingüe la causa de la muerte, si fue de una estrés israelí o de las figuras de Hamas. Este es el preso asociado diciendo que las figuras del mundo no son respaldas. Los reportes que vienen de las casultades de Gaza estarán debajo de la evidencia. Necesitan ser un poco muy bravo para dar estos reportes contra el viento que vienen de la calle en algunos capitales en Europa y también hacer un test a la liderazgo de Europa en algunos países mientras entienden la atmósfera en la calle, un montón de civilizaciones musulmanes y millones de ellos que están viviendo en sus lugares. Así que lo que veis desde el E.U., el mensaje antes, lo que mostré, es algo que no es usual y es tomando un montón de esfuerzos. ¿Por qué? Porque esta es nuestra situación por muchos años y creo que hoy por lo que estamos haciendo y intentando, no vamos a ganar esa legitimación pero vamos a lograr hacerla más y más narrow para convencer más y más figuras altas en este mundo que lo que está pasando en Gaza es un gran rey. Y creo que muchos de ellos que están ahora contando contra Israel que Israel está haciendo este tipo de crimes, etcétera básicamente sabe lo que estará en sus lugares en unos años desde ahora. ¿Sabes qué gente en el mundo lo que yo creo no puede entender? Es que esto realmente es Israel 9-11 en el sentido de que después de 9-11 como américas no pensamos que lo íbamos a perder. Sabíamos que lo ganaríamos pero sabíamos que era un conflicto de vida y muerte y que era posible. Al Qaeda provee que era posible que pudimos perder y que America podría ser destruida. Y si alguien preguntaba a América para dejar de destruir Al Qaeda América no podría tolerar eso por un instante. La gente debe entender que los israelí left, right, centro, religioso, secular, musulano, juicio, cristian, todos en Israel tienen el fuerte siente que esto es un combate para la survivancia y no hay cantidad de alquiler en el mundo que puede sobrepowerar el sentido de que estás combatiendo para la survivancia. Cuando el mundo entiende eso, el mundo entiende lo que es posible para convivir Israel a hacer y no a hacer más de la seguridad de sus ciudadanos. Justo para hacerla claro, ves que Israel está estando alrededor de la ciudad de tres a cuatro días. Succedimos a los hospitales. Estamos apenas unos metros de los hospitales. Y lo que veis, más y más líderes de Europa, oficialmente, de Estados Unidos están diciendo que sí, sabemos y confirmamos que bajo el grado en Chifa hay un control y una base para el Hamas y más y más voces que hicieron aquí antes. Justo imagínate qué habrá hecho a Israel en una situación que en Friday en una manera militar hay que entrar en Friday. Pero la manera en la que mantuvimos y nos damos la idea de no ir al interior es solo que tenemos que decir la verdadera historia. Tenemos que llevar la evidencia como hoy y pagamos mucho riesgo a la vida de los soldados bajo esta guerra. Veis que Israel creo que sucede para añadir más y más digamos, apoyo de lo que declaró desde el primer día de esta guerra. Y hablando de evidencia de todo que ha sucedido. Voy a agradecer a todos por la discusión y la analiza. Pero tenemos una historia y evidencia de lo que sucedió en octubre 7 que ha sido la historia de Shia Lea Atari quien ha perdido su esposa en ese onsla y ahora un film que viene a cinemas para decir esa historia y una historia de la vida y la muerte en la bordera de la Gaza. Veamos. Es una historia de amor que solo puedes encontrar en los filmes. Pero terminó en la tragedia. En octubre 7 Shia Lea Atari una actriz, y el filmmaker ha perdido su esposa Yahav en el onsla de Hamas en la ciudad de Kibbutz en Raza. Es muy rápido que abrieron la ría de Iron Rail de la puerta. Y no tuvimos una pequeña mirada porque antes fuimos silenciosos cuando estaban fuera de la puerta cuando damos ¡Ah! ¡Hm! ¡Veas en la puerta! ¡Veo con el bebé! Y luego se volvieron de la puerta y se volvieron de la puerta. Y no dijimos que se vio bien y fue muy, muy corto. Y... Recuerdo que puse la ría de Iron Rail contra ellos de la puerta. Y me fui a la puerta de la puerta de la puerta de la puerta. Shia Lea y Yahav han conocido en un estudio de actividades. Ellos han compartido su pasión para el cine y el film. Cada ejercicio que tenía que escribir en ese estudio me ha actuado dentro. Recuerdo nosotros haciendo un recorrido. Nos fuimos en un matriz y estamos tan cansados. Entonces, me puse la cabeza y me recuerdo mirando a él. Él estaba hablando de la ejercicio y de mí hablando de Romeo y Juliet. ¿Qué es para mí? ¿Qué amigas he tenido? Y recuerdo mirando a sus ojos y me recuerdo ver mi soldado. Se ha mejorado durante los años. Se ha mejorado cada proyecto. Y este proyecto se hizo más entendiente de cada uno de ellos. Pero también fue mi mejor amigo. Durante los años, hicieron varios filmes cortos juntos. Retrospectivamente, algunos de Yahav's filmes tienen un nuevo significado. En su primer filme, Indio y Grave, él juega a un hombre que le preguntó a su padre para traer a él vivo. En su filme Free Deep Breath, Shia Lea juega a un guido que sueña que ella habla con su esposa. El esposa es jugado por Yahav. Y me recuerdo cuando él me dijo que este es el script. Me pregunté. ¿Mami, por qué? ¿Por qué quieres escribir el script sobre un hombre joven en los años 30? ¿Qué es la conexión? Y él me dijo que yo tenía que escribirlo. Y yo lo veo. Yahav's acclame short film, The Boy, está ahora jugando en la cancha de cinema en Israel. El filme es basado en Yahav's vida y dice la historia de un hombre joven que se sufre de PTSD y su relación con su padre. Ellos bothan en el área de la Anvil Gaza en el tiempo de la guerra. Más o menos hace dos semanas antes del onslao de Hamas, Yahav ha completado su primer filme, A Kibbut's Tale, con Shia Lea y él en los principales roles. Shia Lea juega a un cantante que ha perdido su habilidad de cantar después de un accidente de carro y se mueve a la Anvil Gaza durante la guerra. Más de los que fueron parte de la película fueron asesinados en octubre 7. Creo que él siempre ha intentado mirar a la parte más larga de la vida, pero la realidad es mucho más larga que lo que es el filme. Y creo que el filme es la razón que Yahav querió volver a el lugar donde él tenía un trauma de ver su padre, su amigo padre muerto en frente de sus ojos de un rocote y él decidió volver a crecer sus niños ahí. Aunque él sabe que es un lugar peligroso, porque esta es su ruta, esta es donde él viene. Así que creo que ese filme es el sueño. Hoy Shia Lea y su hija Shia están buscando un nuevo hogar. Ella dice que se va a poner juntos una cibuta. Ella también está pensando en escribir y dirigir un filme a través de sus experiencias. Pero, en vez de la realidad, ella promete a la audiencia que el filme tendrá un fin feliz. Me y Yahav siempre tuvieron un deseo que cada filme, incluso en los lugares muy oscuros, tendrán alguna compasión, alguna cosa para mantener. Y ahora cuando estoy muy triste o alguna cosa, me lembro de eso, que él siempre miraba para algo en los lugares muy oscuros, una luz linda. Así que probablemente me pondré una luz linda cuando creé un filme sobre eso. No puedo salir de esto, incluso si no es conmigo, sé que estará dentro de mí. Y, por supuesto, hay el problema de propagandas durante el tiempo de la guerra. Ha sido una preocupación del gobierno israelí, y ahora el Cabinet de Seguridad aprobando medidas para cerrar la media afiliada de Hezbollah, Almea Dean, de la operación en Israel. Esto está en línea con las puertas de emergencia aprobadas por el Cabinet el mes pasado, que cerraría la media que arregla la seguridad de Israel durante el tiempo de la guerra. El Cabinet primero ha subido la citarre de Al Jazeera después de que supuestamente, supuestamente, le dieron posiciones de trupe pero Israel puso un detalle en esa orden, principalmente debido a la evolución de las citarres en las negociaciones posibles. El ministro de Defensa de Israel, Ufgalat, caracteriza al Almea Dean, aunque, como propaganda de enemigo. Por más de esto, estamos juntos a un instituto por Dan Perry, formador de Europa, en el edad de la edad de la asociación. Dan, buenas tardes con vosotros. ¿Cuál es la propaganda contra el libre preso? Es una gran pregunta. A mí, a mí, me escribo algunos artículos en varias publicaciones. ¿Es esa propaganda? Si me apoye una causa. Es una, es una muy suave, suave, para empezar a banar publicaciones o edad de la edad de la asociación porque te asustas a ser propaganda. Si se rompe la ley, si se systematically arroja, realmente arroja la seguridad del Estado, es una cosa, pero si no son simpatizados a una acción que estás entreteniendo o a una política de el gobierno de Israel, no lo recomiendo en general. No, mira, al almea de la edad de la asociación es obviamente simpatizado a Hisbola. Y estoy seguro de que favoran la asociación en su cobertura. Así que, me duro, esta es la edad de la asociación que quiero morir, defendiendo a ellos. Voy a decirles, también quiero a Israel ser un país que tiene un precio libre y que tiene una barra muy alta para cerrar operaciones journalísticas, incluso si estén desplezados. De hecho, eso es precisamente cuando tus principales de la democracia y la expresión están testados. Así que, me gustaría que si se tomara este movimiento, no habría una diferencia con el daño reputacional de un país que se despliega en la media. Y sería un caso muy serio. Y diría, mira, esto es lo que hicieron ABC. Falsamente reportaron que los truques de Israel comienzan una matrosidad y es obviamente completamente falsa y no podemos tener esto porque se agitó Hisbola. Entonces, lo entiendo. Pero lo que he escuchado es a Shlomo Kari, el Ministero de Comunicación, quien no es un fan de la libre presa, al menos, o realmente de la democracia liberal, diciendo, bueno, contra Israel no deberíamos llevarlo. Parece que un poco de Kari se frustra que su parte de la autoritaria de Overhaul, que fue a despliegar en la presa, no se ha hecho. Y ahora podemos hacer algo. La pregunta en el mundo es, finalmente, ¿qué significa causar harm al país en el momento de la guerra? Bueno, mira, si están asociando potenciaciones de enemigos y reportando cosas falsas en un modo que es claramente tendente, estoy aún no tan cómodo con un despliegue en la media. O sea, Fox reportó cosas falsas en el momento de la elección de 2020 en la U.S. Y nadie ha set a cerrarlo. Tal vez se asuele. Eso dice Israel en un estado de la guerra. Y hay imágenes de emergencia que se han aprobado. Y puedo entender ciertas potenciaciones de Overhaul, una acción contra la propagandía de enemigos que no son tan democráticos. Pero me gusta ver en su caso un poco mejor. Si no, parece que el populismo ha dirigido a los israelíos para mostrarles que son muy difíciles en la propagandía de enemigos. Déjame decirlo. Al-Mahdién no es una estación de hisbola. Están en una estación de lebanía. Ahora, su ownership es conocida como simpathética de hisbola. Y usted ha mencionado afiliado. No estoy seguro de que he visto en los papas de afiliación. Pero no tengo duda de que se suporta a hisbola. Eso es claro. Para Israel, ser el tipo de país que le permite a la media de un avión que suporta a hisbola para operar en Israel es bueno para Israel. Esa es la propagandía de Israel. ¿OK? Las personas en Lebanon veen eso y se senten en sus espacios. El I-24 no está operando en Lebanon. Israel es un país mejor. Israel es aterrador de eso. Si se despliega en la media, su propagandía no lo provee. Es un interesante visión de cosas. Creo que se despliega a lo que se ha percibido. Espero que las personas se sientan en el mensaje, pero tiene que ser balanceado con lo que usted ha mencionado. ¿Qué es lo posible para causar arraig? Me gustaría ver todas las operaciones de las operaciones serias el I-24 y una mano de otros. Pero eso sería un mundo perfecto que no estamos viviendo. Sin embargo, no. Para todos los demás, tendremos que regresar a nuestra coverage en unos tres minutos. Vamos a un corto descanso. Así que estén con nosotros como hablamos de tantos más aspectos de la guerra y de muchas otras issue regionales en apenas un par de minutos. Israel está en guerra. Make an investment in Israel bonds. It is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel. Visit israelbonds.com and invest now.