 Yay, the the the peak of all of the movies in the Soul franchise spiral. Yeah, everyone's a bit a lot about this. I assume everybody got very popular, very famous. Oh, yeah, I didn't know anything. No, I didn't. I lied. I was a liar. I'm sorry. Well, yeah, I've got a lot to say about it. But I'll wait until the movie ends. I'll say about it in terms of I guess what you should know before watching the film is it was originally going to release, I think May of 2020. And then they were like, no, we've got it because COVID happened. And they're like, no, you've got to watch it in the theaters, bro. They were like responding on Twitter to people saying, like, can you just release this on digital like everybody else is doing? They're like, no, this has to be seen in theaters. And what is so bizarre about that is not only did they push it forward a year to, like, I think May 2021. But this is the first one where they just completely abandoned the Halloween release date. They were like, we don't even want to release it in October, which was just so bizarre. And I'll go into more detail about that later. That is weird. Is there anything you know, Tiffany, about like the way this was made? Like it was like we want more soul. But then Chris Rock got involved somehow. They were planning on doing another saw film. And then I think Chris Rock met somebody at a party or they got in Chris Rock got in contact somehow and was like, yo, guys, I've always wanted to make a saw movie. And they were like, let's just let him do it because he's Chris Rock. And so this is Chris Rock's passion project, essentially, where he races. This is really his film. He's not the director. They brought back Darren Lynn Bousman from saw two and three. And I think four. I need to see that board man, though. They're like, yeah, Chris Rock can sell a soul movie. Like, why? They heard his name and they thought dollar signs because we'll get people into the theater because there's a name. Like, I don't know if you said Arnold Schwarzenegger will be in the next soul movie. Like, what? Why? Why would he do that? He's about to play a game. I mean, that would be pretty cool. But yeah, like it's like, oh, yes, Chris Rock. He's Jigsaw. But yeah, as a selling point, that's really weird. And then I remember them being like, Sam L. Jackson's also at it. It's like, why? Playing for a check, motherfucker. Important thing to note. This is the only film in the entire franchise that Kevin Grudertz was not really a part of because he is not the editor in this film. The only ones he didn't edit previously, he directed. So he was not directing or editing this film. But you said he's coming back for the new, new, new, new, new one. He is directing the Saw 10. Yeah, the Saw 10, which we'll have to all come back together for. I feel like that's the best possible buildup we can get. I'm excited to start this up. Thank the Lord. It's an hour and a half. So that is, you know, thanks, Satan. Yeah. And this one has big actors. So that means it's going to be very good. Very good. Already the best one. All right. Everyone's on three. I am on the table. One, go. Oh, God, we're in space. Oh, my goodness. It's on his face like he looks like someone who goes to fairs. Oh, no, that sound of it. Fuck that guy up. Go do it. That reaction. He's like shaking his head back and forth. He's like a superhero. I can't believe this criminal stuff right there already feels very clumsily. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, this is shaky cam. It's really good. That means it's tense. This is a tense moment. That's the language of filmmaking. Wow. He really wants that purse. You have a gun. Oh, my God. All right, who the fuck did that? He just cries. You're pointing guns at people. You point it back at him. Honestly, that's how you know he's a great. Yeah. Well, after you should have noticed, it was a firework. No, I've got to get out of here. You know what? I'd better follow him. This purse is that fucking important. Who goes there? Okay. He doesn't want me to go that way. This is not what someone would do in law enforcement. Right. But that's this fucking series. You'd probably just let them go. This guy's a maverick. The woman's like, that was my carnival purse. It's a decoy. Get your fucking hands in the air. Like, you just don't care. Also, that's that's not a real person. Obviously, a dummy. Yeah, they give the face motherfuckers of this guy. This guy's a dummy. Oh, no. He's like, oh, my legs. I guess they're both dummies. That's a different pig mask. I hate that. I think it was just a real pig head. Yeah. The new pig mask for a new generation. Capturing him, hinged on him going down there. He's done a lot. It hinged on him being carrying it. OK, he's out. Ew. Well, he's also hanging up. Jesus Christ. Wait, he was unconscious. He could have. That is a. Yeah, they've already fucked it up. They've already fucked it up like that. They fucked up a little bit already. Hello, Detective Bosswick. I want to play a game. Oh, that sucks. The worst voice ever, maybe. You have taken the witness stand many times and we're loaded innocent people with your lies, putting them away in jail. Why is the TV so old? Wow. Why is audio so good? Where's the audio coming from? I guess it's 2021. Yeah. You had to go to like a store. One of those old person died. Take a leap of faith and you will live. Only your weight will rip away your mind, tongue, and save you. I mean, if you were unconscious, you would have. Yeah, yeah. Already, but his tongue should already be ripping it. Yeah. So he's got like a jump off and tear that tongue. It doesn't even look like your tongue can't. It was so fake. Yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah, it does. Well, that's that's that's big tongue. Oh, Maui. That's his mom. Your eyes on the tree. Hey, I'm sure you love driving the subway. Thanks for fucking this train driver's life over quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. That's really actually fucked up. Maybe the maybe the saw killer knows that the train driver is a bad person. Then what all the people on the train breaks wasn't my game. They'll live or die. Oh, they they so often do that where it's like, oh, they experienced the pain of doing the trap and then immediately die after. Yeah, yeah, just barely. I mean, if he stepped off the ladder, he still would have died from blood loss. If he pulled himself over on the chain, he could have run along the top of the train like an animal. Also, cutting his tongue off is one thing, but tearing it out. I don't even know what kind of damage you're looking at there. Yeah, it's going to bleed like crazy. Oh, my goodness. It's internationally known comedian Christopher Rockinson. And it's such a like, wait, what, we watch it again? It's like, yeah. OK. This motherfucker did too much shit. So believe it or not, this is supposed to be very funny. In interviews, Chris Rock was talking about how he would add ad lib comedy into the scenes and just so the funny movie also. Look at these guys. They're struggling to face it straight. E. And she still wouldn't fuck them. Eventually they got together. Yeah. After she got AIDS. And what's so confusing about this is they acted as if it was like some revolutionary thing like, oh, yeah, we're going to inject comedy into Saw when this isn't that different than the type of comedic banter you'd see in other films that involve like law enforcement or like comedy crime. You know, it doesn't have to be inherently a comedy movie. But there's usually some sort of playful banter. And yeah, the music is a very odd choice for this. With what? Come. Give me a minute. Fuck you, old lady. Is he just going to shout the whole movie? I guess he really is just going to shout. Well, it's weird. This is a scene, I guess. Very weird. Darren Lynn Bowzman said he shot this entire part as a wonder and then they trimmed it down. So OK. Maybe that makes sense why it's so awkward. A lot of the movie got cut. Apparently, I don't know how long it was going to be. I don't know how long the first cut was. If it's still like an hour and a half. Yeah, boss, the Bowzman cut. But I already hate it. Oh, yeah, some people are demanding that. And I'll explain why later. In conspicuous as fuck, driving out. This didn't work out for him, huh? See, it's like you. What the fuck is wrong with you? You do an undercover off. You don't clear it. There's no coordination. We are homicide. But you're robbing drug dealers. Wait, he didn't tell anybody he was undercover? I had a boyfriend who got killed. That crew killed four people last week. And we got him. And we could have gotten more of him if my cover wasn't blocked. Fuck your cover, Zeke. I mean, if you don't tell anybody, how are they supposed to know? The performance is. He's so undercover the department didn't know. You're off on your own as usual. No backup, nothing. No backup, because there's nobody on the force. I can fucking trust. Can't tell anybody because he can't trust anyone. Well, then you just fuck, don't you? I do like Chris Rock, but I think he was a bit bigheaded maybe going into this movie. 12 fucking years. 12 years ago, I turned in a dirty cop. I get a medal for it. Big fucking deal. I also got a bullet. And I got to look over my back for the rest of my career. A nice bit of exposition. Well, nobody knows what the fuck this movie was trying to be, not even Chris Rock. Listen to their interview footage. They're all contradicting each other. He was atop of his academy, so don't screw this up. Zeke is going to break you in to show you the room. Oh, it's the new guy. Top of the academy. Fuck you, new guy. Slightly Hispanic people. Eyebrows are too bushy, bitch. They are awfully bushy. Detective Browse. Hernandez, get over there. So he turned in a crooked cop, and that's why none of the cops trust him any. They don't like it. That's interesting. Because all cops hate it when you turn in crooked cops. Because all cops are crooked, you see. Just literally no good one. Except Chris Rock. Except for the new guy. The new guy. In Arkansas, maybe they are all corrupt, to be fair. You don't want to be my partner. You don't know that. Your dad's the reason for all of this. Oh, that's his dad. Just so happen to be there. Samuel L. Jackson is Chris Rock's father. Are they not like close to the same age? No, actually, Sam Jackson's nearly 80. He's getting up there, man, yeah. He shouldn't be allowed to age, I think. It's one of those types of people that he's saved, preserved. Should be illegal. But what are you going to do? They need to record him saying motherfucker in every possible way. What's up with the soundtrack? Yeah, I really like it. It's none of it matches anything that they're going for. It's not even like communicating any kind of real emotion. Couldn't even save it for like a diagetic car radio. They had to play it as if it's like score. Yeah, it's like royalty-free shit, though. It's like it doesn't even sound like a real song. So that's 12 minutes in. I haven't seen Hoffman anyway. What's going on? Nothing more than that same bitch 10 years later. Maybe it's because you call them bitches. I'm half Italian, trust me. Women do not like it when you call them bitches. What are you telling me about women? Y'all motherfucker, shit. I just said it to you. This is supposed to be very funny. Oh, I was laughing. My mic just didn't pick it up for whatever reason. Yeah, RTX voice. It detects laughter, and it just blocks it from the world. Yeah, we're all very, very around, yeah. Whistling or violin. It's just like, nah, that's not confirmed. We're all crying laughing. It took me forever. It took me forever to figure out that that's what they were going for. In the interview footage, they say it. But this is so funny. Yeah. Well, because they thought it was like some groundbreaking thing. Like, well, if you took son, you put comedy in it. It's like the first saw had some comedy in it. Like Adam's character was saying, you know, there were some riffs and jokes. Like, there was intentional comedy in there. Oh, also another one that they cut down. Here we go. Shit, sorry. Sorry for what? We're cops. This is the life we choose. Highest divorce rate. Highest suicide rate. Highest rate of domestic violence. Yell this on the subway. Yes. Ha ha ha. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like all that might just be you. Yeah. I understand trying to do like cop banter, like an end of watch or something like that. But this, in particular, comes off as too expository. You can get away with a lot of shit in the daytime. And they shut the fuck up. Holy shit. This has been going on for 10 minutes. This looks like another attempted winner. Oh my god. And it's so weird because they're attempting to be like mature and show offy. But Darren Lynn Bousman's a man child. And he's only pretending to be mature. Like he thinks he's grown up. But he's still making a fucking sawmovie. And he's pretending it's something else there. It's like, we're going to change the color grading. And it's going to be a real detective story. And I'm not a baby anymore. Like that's literally what the movie is. I'm a big kid now. That's literally what the movie is. This bum's going to be tough to ID. I don't know a lot of bums trying to get their steps in. Whoever this is is married. And where's a Fitbit? OK. All right. Is that like a mutually conflicted statement? It's either one or the other. We're doing great. We've introduced our main detectives. We've got some tension within the detective agency. And we've got sores on in order to conducting games. This is a great movie. Yeah, it's just using with artists. Cheek, comedy. They were intentionally trying to do like the opposite color choice. Do like warm colors instead of cold like all the other films were. The entire point of this, including the title, like, oh, it's not saw anymore. It's spiral from the book of saw. And we're not going to release it in October. It's going to be a regular summer movie. It's like, OK, fuck off. Like they're they're implying this sense of like intimacy and maturity and production value and like the big actors and all this shit. And it comes off as just so sloppy and thrown together because Darren Linbaugh is a shit director anyway. And nobody knows what this movie is supposed to be. It's such a big disaster. You have some bitterness toward this film. Yeah, just a little bit. I like that it's the book of saw, like it's some great literature. Yeah, that's super embarrassing. I don't know why they called it that. Oh, you know, the book where I thought the Jigsaw killer was dead. Yeah, but if it's another copycat. I like that he said another copycat. Like, yeah, how many have they been? Yeah, another other other 78 many. And yeah, I think that's an excellent choice. Another other accomplice for a new soul voice. The super awkward like in cell. This slightly distorted woman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's the point of having a soul without Tobin Bell? Seriously, yeah. All you need is Chris Rock, Moller. Whoa, action. Yeah, that was like a lot of this. I wonder if they got a stuntman to do that. No, Chris, not his own stunts. That going to be the tongue. Hey, I know that tongue anywhere. I know it's been at my ass just the time. That's big tongue, O'Malley's tongue. But everyone recognizes big tongue, O'Malley. Yeah. No, bored wits. God, so young, so much tongue. Dental records confirm it's buzz. Sorry, guys. But look, we got to catch the son of a bitch that did this. All right, guys, what if we took saw and took out all the fun? Yeah, I was going to say, like you say, it's got all the fun. They put Chris Rock in here. Yeah, the most overloading on fun. You called Karen. Yeah. You know, Karen. No, did you actually talk to her or did you text her? We're just not been tagging eyes of me and shut the fuck up. Trust issues. Did they have a dead husband emoji? I talked to her asshole. We talked to her asshole. Someone has to know that boss is dead. This is mine. Me and the Rook were first on scene. You sound like a child. All right, isn't this protocol now you're part of the team again. See, fuck you. No, fuck you. Oh, God, why are you back from internationally renowned comedian Christopher Rockinson? This film's like stale. Yes, I don't believe any of his performance. Like he's always hiding like a friend. Yeah, so his attempted angry face and concerned or sad, like the negative emotions he's not good at. I feel like he's about to like burst into laughter. Like he went into the ladies room. Whoa. Oh, I only stay when what? Why couldn't you make him like the killer? And why can't you take him to the ladies room and been a bit fucking progressive? He makes an opportunity for a jar of that. Like if if he was pissing, it's like get out. It's like I can't piss him. I got I got to go until I got to get it all out, you know. I feel like why would you come here to have your beef? Yeah, you hear that you hear him peeing and it just keeps going and going and going. It's like a league of their own. Going and going. Austin Powers stops that it continues. Yeah, but it's a shame that we're not internationally renowned comedians who can come up with these things on the fly. You mean for their comedic effect? I know some of you guys think I'm a rat. Jesus Christ, we're not racist, Chris. Some of you are mad. I fucked your mother. That character that was funny. That guy thought it was funny. Buzz was last seen at the July 4th parade. It's Stuart's point. We already know that very patriotic. I said that earlier, idiot. Check your hashtags, Instagram. That guy's on the phone. What? How'd he get on the phone so quickly? What the hell? Now he's hung up on whoever that was. Yeah, Brian, you good? No problem here, Captain. Kill someone already. Look at that walk. He's so powerful. Well, this is glad we had that scene where he went to the car. Yeah, you can't even like walk to doors without the shot. What the fuck was that? You know, normally in these movies, you have like an A plot, which is the people in the traps and the beat. Actually, the B plot where you have all of the traps and the A plot where cops are talking to each other. This is just that plot. You don't even have the part that it cuts to with the people in the traps trying to escape or something. Well, that's a little bit of a soft fill. There is some. It's not a baby anymore. OK, I guess this isn't this wasn't doomed to be a disaster. You could have made this work. Yeah, you just had to do it without Chris Rock and Darren Lynn Bazeman. You could even do it with the two most important people. I don't know why the fuck you do it with Chris Rock. Hey, you know, I like having having a bunch of people walk through a series of rooms and figure out puzzles slash traps and then know what they have to sacrifice to get through them. It's like that's at least even at the base level of being bad at something. Yeah, but this is just something to watch. Yeah, in the in the interview footage for this film, Darren Lynn Bazeman is essentially just shitting on the older movies. He's like, yeah, I was in my 20s when I made saw two and three and they were kind of like dumb movies. And so we didn't want to like make a dumb movie again. And it's like, could you imagine hiring someone under the project that doesn't respect the franchise at all? You are. Oh, yeah, that would be crazy. What's happening? I made like bad movies then and I don't like them. So we're going to do something. It's like, OK, I'm sorry. Could you imagine hiring someone who doesn't respect the previous stuff is like, yeah, I know that's nuts. Like, yeah, how could that happen on this day that's like. But no, I don't I don't read those. It's just like you want to bring on somebody who fucking loves soar so that you can appeal to the market that likes soar. It's pretty simple, which is why 10 has potential because Kevin Grudert is the voice of the series. You put a gun on your man. You out of your fucking mind. I could have killed you. I could have killed you. No, but your gun wasn't pointed at him. Yeah, but that doesn't give you the right to just walk in here anytime you want. This guy, he's a landlord. OK, this is the worst. And I'm going to wait. No paying rent. I don't know. We've had a lot of bad conversations on the pathway to spiral. You talking about will it you talking about will it you talking about will it. This is so cringe. Oh, you did not say what you talking about will it. You did not say it. It was funny. It was so funny. Dad, you're my dad and we live in the same building. The downside of black not cracking is I can't tell who's the father and who's the son. Everyone, we've made it to a third of the film. What I don't like is that I'm now seeing the writing credits. The two writers had only written jigsaw. None of the other stuff. They've got nothing else. That's the shit when we watch before. I mean, like in terms of saw movies, they wrote Piranha 3D. Ring me my legs. Titanium motherfuckers. We have to watch the Piranha series, Piranha, Piranha 2, Piranha 3D, Piranha Revengeance, Piranha Revelations, Piranha, the final chapter and Piranha, the final chapter, part two. No, the last chapter and the final chapter should be two different movies. We would have been two traps at this point. Two, five. I don't know. Shit, more than nothing's happening. What I mean by that, I actually like I would have preferred to watch a sequel to the people who made the previous one at this point. Absolutely. So incredibly boring. Well, Darren Lynn Bousman is not a baby. And now you know that. And that's what's important. It's not important that you're entertained. It's important that you know he's not a baby anymore. Which ones did he make? Two, three and four. Boring films are better films. Didn't three skull is one of the lowest for us. Two and three skull are very large. Let me see that kind over there. The one on the left. Yeah, yeah, come on, come on. On behalf of the Metro Police. I want to thank you for generosity. You don't have ammo. You can't do that. You're no ammo stealing. Police can just take whatever is no ammo. Good work today. Thanks, man. See you tomorrow. They've come so far. He said good work. Remember when they made it? They were like, you don't want to be my pawn. Yeah, well, then they've come a long way. They've come a long way in this story. This is fucking crazy. I'm trying to find things that are happening in this. We're over half an hour in. It's not fair. It feels like it's been a century. I don't know. Oh, this is a little blue. All right, he's getting captured, surely. Give me a sore trap, for Christ's sake. He's going to go, this is where you flock. This is the burnt down bread. I just realized that we're going to get the goofy sore voice. Hello, detective. You've spent your whole life wanting it. We're going to get Brianna Wu as Jigsaw. Mom, Benny, get up. I don't want the new Pig Mask at all, lame. Could you not tell if there wasn't a body under the blanket? Yeah, I don't like the new one. I didn't like the old one. I love the old one. It was folded very particularly. Yeah, the old one was great because we found out that he chose pigs because pigs feel compassion and it totally wasn't that he ran into a pig parade at some. Oh, God, piggy. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Wait, so if you can be for one reason, just turn there a little further. Really? Just would have had to run that on. Ah, nobody. Yes, yes. Put him in a thing. He's in jail. We're not doing that. He's in chains and stuff. Thank goodness. Ooh, oily goodness. 33 minutes through the film. We get our second trap. Second trap, yeah. Oh, he's got the tongue again. What's going on with this one? Oh, OK. That starts fast. Good. Oh, no, a Chinese finger trap. But with a shouldn't have taken the gun from that Chinese man. Yeah. He said, all right, they're doing a Chinese water torture and a Chinese finger trap at the same time. Wow, this is elaborate. That is very elaborate. More Chinese friends. How are those staying on your fingers? So just take them off. Wait, is it getting electrocuted? How are those on your fingers? Oh, no, not the voice. Up yours, woke moralists. Hello, Dr. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hello, what are you thinking? Hello. We're playing a game. Oh, oh, we're done with that. Well, I'll go back and the movie's over. Who the hell cuts away from a trap? Oh, because he's not a baby. Yeah, but it just said baby crying. What do you mean? We didn't even get to see him have a slice. Oh, is he already post slice? Yeah, he's post slice. Oh, he's got post slice clarity. Don't you appreciate the mature dialogue and how it's such a mature story and it's just so well shot by like a wide fucking margin. Jesus, the court outs. That's like Chris Rock's board to. Yeah, it's a runny delivery. Oh, thanks. I can't believe it's just the good. It's just been some guy who's like, oh, yeah, that's for me. I guess he's finally nice. He's got the slice. Many slices. God, I wish I could see. Oh, he's a train enthusiast. That's fine. Like a good fresh slice of pizza and a train. I love pizza. All right, fake mustache, fake mustaches. So you can tell us a different point in time. Thank goodness. You know, someone was so excited in production to glue a mustache to Samuel Jackson's face. You're just like, oh, my God, it looks like felt. I love the idea that they were about to stop filming. He just has it. And they're like, wait, why does he have a mustache? Like Sam Jackson just wanted it. He found it somewhere. He's calling the shot up. He showed up to say, oh, no. Oh, my goodness. Well, that's the door. It doesn't make any sense. It wasn't even in the frame. What's happening? Fuck you very much. Who is that? I don't know. It's just a reporter. Is he going to be Saw Guy? Oh, look, is that a reporter? Yeah, that's not photoshopped. Oh, oh, my God. This is one of the most pathetic films ever. It's like it's genuinely pathetic. It's fucking embarrassing. career brought it. We're holding him for questioning. We're holding it. Oh, I thought you said the box. We're holding it for questioning. This tell me the truth. He doesn't not even use the gloves anymore. This film calls so that Saw 10 can run. Hello, Detective Banks. What the fuck? It was very early you see it in theaters. No, no, no. It's a new guy at all. Oh, God. Make it and start by pointing them at yourself. Yeah, start by pointing at yourself. Stupid voice. Stupid doll. Why did they do that? He's killing me. They established that basically anybody could turn their own voice into the Jigsaw voice. Why don't you just do that? Dang. Yeah, they play the hell. They play a lot of work into the voice, too, is what they said. Not only did they not even have a bad impression of Jigsaw, it's just a terrible voice. Yeah. We went through a lot of different voices, and this is the one we decided was the best. Yeah. We went through one and variations of the one, but you could still tell what they were going for. This is just like, nah, fuck tradition. What is with his face? Yeah, he's so serious. Yeah, he's got like a child trying to be stirred in face. He's not convincing. Oh, no, big sounds. No. I'm glad we had that loud noise. A brown note. No. Wah. Wah. Oh, I guess he died then. Do we see the end of that trap? Fucking better. 9-8-2. It's big. Are we really not going to see the trap? No. Why are we going back to? Fuck off. We've got to know why he's a crooked cap. He's dead. This guy, he was requesting backup, but he was too busy doing nothing. He's got a hat. Wow, that looks awesome. That looks fucked up. Poor facing cap now, so he's a little older. For some reason, they hired the same composer, Charlie Clouser, but they got him to do more generic everything music. They're like, no, you can't. You got to do some nonsense. Yeah. Oh, my boy. You can tell this is past, because I don't know what's past. Everyone's here. My son called for backup three times. Oh, that's going to kill someone. Oh, remember when you were a crooked cop? Nobody, nothing. I'm going to call the dispatch and find out who was closest to Vailo and shoot that motherfucker. OK. I hate how he's obviously. Wow, all I literally did was turn. All I did was turn my body. It's so embarrassing. You can you can see what they think they're doing in the writing and how they think it's going to be cool Sam Jackson shit. And so they just throw in the word motherfucker all the time and it's like, oh, yeah, have him being mad and pointing the gun and having an attitude. It's like, oh, my god, this caricature of him is other performances. Just so embarrassing. Detective. No, stop. Stop it. And remember, remember, remember, remember, remember. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. In 90 seconds, the water will. In 90 seconds, the water will rise. And you will die. Number 15. You like fries? What's that? Oh, that would be so much better. You murdered a man because he insulted you. Oh, remember when you were a crooked cop? And that cannot happen again. Oh, the first cap was tongue because of the words. And this time, it's fingers because his finger pulled the trigger. OK, so creative. The motor that will rip your fingers away. Is Jigsaw supposed to sound like a depressed ex-girlfriend? Listen, if only you knew how bad things had gone. One more time. Make your choice. They can use this to inspire white-oven bell retains. He's like, my copycats are so embarrassingly shit that I need to get into this again. So theoretically, this would rip the skin off your fingers, not your fingers. Yeah. Take your camera off. Ew. Where'd that go? Oh, you're right. They did the same thing, where he went through the pain and pulled it and pulled off, but he still died. Bad ending. Bad ending. We're just saying that from the very beginning. I was about to say that. Yeah, I never could have won. He never could have won that. Yeah, it was bullshit. It's absolutely. Yeah, he took like a tiny gap at one point. He took a tiny gap, and apparently that was enough to. And even if he hadn't, he still wouldn't have gotten out in time. What if we make traps, can we take out everything fun about them? Do you remember how in the early movies, they tried to have it be that when there were traps that you couldn't get out of, it was like a twist reveal that a different character with different motives Yeah, but they think that you could have gotten out of that one, I think. I don't know. Yeah, and I mean, still, at the end of the day, even in those, even in Saw 3, where it was like, oh yeah, some of those at the beginning sort of thing. The film was still filled with other traps where you could imagine as an audience member, it's like there's a question as to whether or not they could get out of it. There's still other traps in the movies where it feels like there's that sense of, I don't know, reward or. The two that we've seen so far, the first one was like, yeah, rip out your jaw, basically. Yeah. And then, I don't know, make it for the hospital before you bleed out. And the second one is, hold on to the thing for the entirety of the time that I've afforded you. If you take a five second break, that's it, you're done. It's stupid. By the way, with the shark and the simple pain thresholds. Jamie, how long can a person even last if they were to rip out their own jaw? Not even sure that that's even possible for just using regular human strength to do that. Wait, that's a YouTuber. That's Chris Ramsey. What? Oh, yeah? Yeah, he does like a magic stuff and something like that. And puzzle boxes. He's even wearing his own merch. What is that? Confirms in his movies. Excellent. Watch the video of his today. That's so funny. It's a different era, isn't it? It really is. This music. All the music's so weird. It sounds like made in the news. It's not even real. It really feels like we've got different movies happening. Dog, dog, dog, dog in the film. There's a dog in the film. Dog in the film. Oh, he's a good boy. He's a good boy. Don't shoot him. He's just strange men running into his house. Yeah. Wait, he's wearing a hat. How old is he? Three. Oh, no. Oh, god, no. Wow, that was a disaster. Yeah, you're fortunate. You might have just killed several people. What do you mean you're not likely? What is that face? You've got to make it easy for the customers. Oh, my fucking leg. What? How did that happen? How did that happen? I'm actually curious. He fell on the table, I guess. I don't know how that works, but that's the implication. We shot it. You open the tag, dude? What are you doing? What? What? Who's playing? It's the end of his procedure. You have to Instagram. Is that a car driving through the desert randomly with no roads? That's a video game. That's what the adult who made this thinks a video game is. Thanks for disinfecting. That's nice. Yeah, that is a diss on his leg. Ow, OK. This is surely you can get fired for this. Yeah, Trillis Rock is the good cop. All the other ones are crooked. Yeah, he's not crooked. Did they think this was cool? I don't know. I don't even know what movie I'm watching anymore. Yes, they thought it was cool. That's the end. It's crazy. Did anyone catch why they even went in this hood? I have a bad intention. I don't have a fucking time over this boring shit. He probably had a clue or a lead or something. You try to piece together this fucking nightmare of a plot light is not something I'm going to bother. It takes forever just to figure out like the emotional intent of a scene. Yeah, not like what they're trying to communicate emotionally shouldn't be that difficult to figure out expressions do not help. They drink water with no ice. You can't even walk and look. I know. Look at that expression. It's embarrassing that he thought he could act in this. Oh, it passed halfway. Alcohol is going to be my problem really soon. Yeah, we're almost two thirds through the movie, by the way. Seriously, I'm counting it down. He's had his foot on the neck of this community for way too long. I'll testify. I'm a stun leaf. Oh, look at the planting. Oh, yeah, there's no fingerprints on it. Yeah, you think you're pretty good at touching a gun. I'm glad we had that scene in the church. Do you think they just had a church to film in? And so they worked up an excuse to have the church? Since when are there trees in Saw movies? I don't know. I don't like seeing greenery in Saw movies. We haven't had an outside since the last two movies. The last two movies have been outside. It was to always be in dingy cells and warehouses or detective places. I want to pitch Saw X to Lionsgate, where Jigsaw, it breaks the fourth wall, and the previous two films exist in the Saw universe. And Jigsaw tortures the directors of those films because they were bad movies. Sterenlin Bowzman. Do you think of yourself as an adult? He's still a baby. On the bomb squad. And Jay, you had a head of an apartment. We got two dead cops. There's no time. You must change my diaper in 30 seconds. Wait, so there's a chance this is a bomb? And they're like, we got to open it because it could mean that we could save someone's life. So also it could be a bomb. Also, don't move it in here. Don't fucking move it. Leave it there if it's like a bomb. Also, only one person. Oh, it's big. The aesthetic of that box that they keep using, like every box they open just has like the rope and the light green. It looks so unthreatening, so uninteresting. Yeah. Have you noticed as well that the rope goes over the whole thing, but you can still lift off the cover because the rope is only the string rather. It's wrapped around each individual bit. Yeah. That's really strange. I'll take your head and find me. Oh, careful. Give me a bomb. Oh my god. Cinema. Cinema. Her response, too. Look at his face. He's like cringing. Thinking he's thinking of a joke. They were paid money to do this. He walks like he doesn't know where he's going, what's happening? This art shot, too. It's so many dingo in this shot. They haven't even broken the frame yet. It's the same shot. That's crazy. Oh, no, they didn't. And then they had to cut it down. Yeah. So many wonders. And they just cut it down. Nice. Oh, skin. Wait, so whose body was that? Rookie. That was the Rookie guy. Yeah. So he must have been corrupt? We killed Rookie already. We didn't do anything with him. Yeah. And we're just not going to show. We did nothing with Rookie. The thumbnail for this needs to be like a little collage of all of Chris Rock's faces like these. Just like 18 of them, later on. Well, if you keep it snatched above. He was obviously skinned. Obviously. Obviously. The dad's the reason I want to do this in the first place. The body was torn first, removed with ceaseless and larger strips. If you could try to imagine what the character's supposed to be thinking based on his facial expression alone. Who never, like, what is this? This genuinely feels like a faded photocopy of a bad saw film. Like it's sort of trying to copy what wasn't even good. Rookie, you're such a good guy. Remember, you smiled once. Well, apparently not. You got to be a crooked cop. He must be corrupt in some way for him to get kidnapped by the. What if he was getting too close to solving the mystery and to. But that would be what a good cop does. So they shouldn't punish the cops actually investigating the murders. Right. Let me explain. OK. Bad guys in the soul movies, they don't seem to be that consistent with who they kill. Take your head. Angie, you're the head of the department. Oh my god. Take your head. The head of the department. Oh, fuck. Angie, look out. Angie. Girlie. Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh. Just die already. Well, I mean, she's in the police department. I'm sure she's safe. Good thing I don't look where I'm going. Now shoot him. Shoot him. Wait, yeah, just shoot him. Shoot him, Angie. Just shoot him. Oh my god, that happened. Angie, you have one job. They made it into a sub room. What are you doing? You what the fuck are you doing? Oh, yeah, just shoot him. You thought that shooting a bullet at the metal. Yeah, she didn't even aim for a particular posh. She just shot at the steel. What are you doing? What are you doing? Are you shooting randomly? Imagine she just shot herself. She's like, no soul trap, not having that. Boom. Hello, Angie. Hello. What was her sin? He did something corrupt. Being a woman. Oh, hey, imagine she knocked it off the table. Hello, Captain Garza. Oh, stop. Captain Garza. But what if you accidentally hit record on there? You can't see the buttons. The only way to stop yourself from being suffocated is to sever your spinal cord. Oh, what? OK. What? What? Deceiver your fucking spinal cord. How will that stop the work? Kill yourself or you die. And how does it know when you severed your spinal cord? That's like very important. Oh, it's got a little Wi-Fi detector. And how do you do that? The text colds that are intact. Angie. Angie. Look, I know we're in a rush, but that's a considerate. You can move. So what? Are you telling me there was no one you could call, no one in the whole department, no one even near? You can't trust them. They're all corrupt. It looks like she's got no choice but to sever her fucking spinal cord. Yeah, like even wiggling around is just going to cut the crap out of me. Killer just attacked a cop a third and beamed. That was just a diversion to get us out of the precinct. To get everyone from the precinct? Wait. So nobody visited the base for this whole time? So no one went there. No one checked on her. No one yet. Heard the gunshot. No one needs evidence in the whole department. And the killer was able to rig the door to automatically close and lock behind her all the time. What is he saying, contraption? It's in the police HQ. I can't believe there's a whole soul trap being run right underneath. That doesn't make any sense at all. Hurry up! Combination. Wait. Cut. Yeah, that was weird. What's with the continuity editing here? That's a bit weird, champ. Oh, well, yeah. There you go. Oops. How did this happen? This is so absurd. You pull that off and her whole face is going to come off. That would be really hot to touch. Yeah. Oh, she's dead. She's there. The implication with the steam is that it is a bit. Oh, him! Much more flashy. What are you doing, man? What are you doing? It's in a probe right OK. You in love with her? Or you're giving her CPR? Well, what is that attempt to do it's not? Oh, I thought that was one CPR. Another one bites the dust. Oh, he's been through so much. Isn't it fucking insane that this was able to happen here in police stations? I'm expressing. Oh, yeah. And you can tell it's really emotionally affecting him right now. You can totally read that in the performance. He's a stupid. He's editing. The book of God. Fuck, hell. This thing's so fucking cool. They filmed it in a higher frame rate, slow mo, and like this is such a pivotal emotional moment. This film is dripping with ego and incompetence. It's just. I don't know. I get that strong impression. The guy who made this is not a baby. That was the trap set up in the police headquarters. Also, wax. In what looked like 13 minutes according to that. Yeah. His first suggestion was, is there a glitch that the 13 pivotal moments are just gone from there? Maybe try and find the person that obviously had to deliver a large package to the building to set that. Oh, yeah. They used the disgrace cop who went to jail for nine years his card to get in, by the way. That still had access for some reason. Your father had access to. Who was it last time you saw your father? Don't you bring it up? Oh, wait, yeah, where's Sam Jackson? He's only had one. I'm surprised you had nothing to do with your father's work. Whoa. Getting revenge on all the cops and stuff. Look, everyone's drama. He can barely push it back. Yeah. Wait, is Sam Jackson the killer? You're too close to a cat, damn it. All right, best shot. Best shot. They shaked the camera. This is nothing rumbling the camera. It was over. The jump cut is how you know he's very distressed. Yeah, very distressed. That was a film, though. That was cinema. Definitely not made by a baby. I called you three times. Please call me back. He talks like he's on stage. Oh, no, Piggy. Ooh, Sam Jackson. Oh, we get the flashback to what he was up to. Is this the flashback? Yeah, he went somewhere with his car. Yeah. Spiral. Yeah. From the book of sore. Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the movie. OK. Swirling. Oh, God, your spiral's everywhere. You want to play games, motherfucker? Oh, my God. The only reason they hired Sam Jackson in a little game are we going to write, you want to play games, motherfucker. That's what line we wrote for Sam Jackson in a saw film. Check on my new puppet. It looked really hot on it. It's a marionette. I'm going to puppet to show you Sam Jackson. He could have shot. He could have shot. Not cheating. That's a lot. You could have literally just shot him, but you just chose to do something else. He aimed right at his head and then lift the gun up and shot. It's almost like he missed his cue. Play a game together, I guess, or something. Yeah, they have to work together and be father and son again. You OK? I am not OK. Oh, my God. Guys, the ball comes back to this. So they're kind of playing the Samis in the background? Oh, my God, you're ready for the training shot. It's crazy to have a name actor worse than the nobodies in the first film. The writer was one of the actors and did a better job than Chris Rock. Don't do it. Why are you resorting to this? Oh, that was kind of suspiciously placed. Uh-huh. Keeps missing it. They were probably filming him do that for ages. Like, it was a one shot and they cut it down. They did. Yeah. Wow, that was very easy. Is this guy awake? I don't think so. Doesn't look like he's hanging. Everybody sleeps standing up in this universe. I mean, his posture would be very different if he was hanging. Oh, it's the cop. Oh, no, it's not. It's the other guy. Hey, wake up. Peter. Yeah. Come on. Give me the fuck down, Zeke. Come on. No, I'm mad at you. I want to play a game when Peter Dunley be murdered an innocent man. Your career was shattered like glass. I don't know. These expressions. It's the same one. Wait, what is this? It's going to shoot bottles at him. Can you run over and knock off the glasses? Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Is it like out of reach or something? It's too high. Well, Zeke seems so unchanged by this. He's kind of just like, huh, I'm surprised he's that coherent. Taste Dave's pretty chill, all things considered. I have to just have a bunch of glass shot at him. So the challenge is he has to get him out somehow if he wants to. I think he's dead already. Yeah, look at him. Look at that. The amount of blood loss is going to be insane. You're getting cut everywhere. What is this fucking machine? So glasses go down into it. They get crushed up, and then they get fucking accelerated out of it. Oh, you can see his spine. He's done, though. You can see his spine. He's dead. Don't do it now. Wait for it to whatever. Oh. Oh, OK. Cool. Wow, you could have put that over the actual things. Yeah, I can't actually do that. Yeah, this is dumb. He's already dead. Yeah, he's done. That's just rock. Wait, why did the machine turn off? Because it knows when he's dead, I guess. So how's he dead? I guess blood on his last hurts. That was very fucking quick. That was a quick upheave. Yeah, I wouldn't expect him to survive if he'd got him off there with all that happened, but he seemed to die pretty quick. Yeah, well, that's it. All right, bye. That was fun. End of year. Bye. I tried, I guess. I got glass on my face. Game over. Game over. God, that's a big old piece. Fucking hell. Dude, he clearly tried to make it seem like it was deeper, but it was already glue and odd, so it was so easy on him to be glued on. Every time it does that like fast motion in the middle of a shot, I'm willing to bet that every single one of those was just because they needed to trim down the film, and Darren Lin-Basman has zero sense for pacing. When he's filming something, he just films like the most long drawn out fucking thing because he doesn't understand how it's going to translate. You stare at the floor. Whereas like some films might do that as a stylistic choice. Some films might plan that from the beginning, but. Well, yeah. It's just a bit more than you're film making, you know? Like. Oh. Not surprised at all. Rudy. Hey, it's the one character whose death we didn't show. Wow. Oh my gosh. That's a surprise. He was the true cook crooked cropper. Yeah. When I first watched this, I was trying to figure out, like, is this supposed to be a reveal? Like, I just assumed it was. Yeah, when I first watched it, I was just like, why did they randomly kill off the rookie and not show us what happened? That's weird. His partner killed his father. It's like the most obvious thing in the world. This is Papa, rookie Papa. I'll do it. I wrote the book of saw. It was me. The witness pulled a gun on him. What? What? Do you have any idea how hard it was to get placed in this department? How did you have it so that you guys signed it? Well, they acknowledged it was very hard. So that's all that matters. I don't have a sign. He's, like, baffled by that. Like, how is that possible? What the hell? Yeah, good thing they didn't try to match dental records or anything. Let me borrow your phone, shut up. OK. Thank you. So he sent a text from Chris Rock's phone to his dad to meet him there. Luckily for him, Chris Rock never checked this. I see he deleted the messages. I don't even know that that would do it. Oh, what? Blocked it. So that he's also lucky his dad never wanted to call back or send a message and be like, wait, why can't I get through? What the fuck? And also, if he blocked his dad's number, then wouldn't Zeke have noticed that? At some point, yeah, you'd think. Blocked plus L plus ratio. Eventually, maybe. Well, but he's been trying to contact him. If you try and contact the number you've blocked. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not back when you were. Fucking. I was lying on the road. So we hit him with a train. Yeah. It's poetic, you know. Thing to do. You want me to help you kill cops. It's just the bad ones. It's the bad ones. There you go. John Kramer was right. Symbol of change, evolution, progress. Symbol of change. John Kramer didn't use the spiral that much. Yeah, you made that up. You made that up. You got shot for doing the right thing. His face. They're not going to clean up on the wrong. We take a tongue here, a few bones there, a come around. We take a tongue here, a few bones there, and they'll come around. What the hell? If you want to take a police apartment full of bad apples and turn them into good cops, you got to kill all the bad ones. They really like it when you do that. And then they're good apples. Yeah. Oh. You need to kill your father. What did his dad do? He was the super crooked cop. He did. Oh, he's dead already. Kramer's blood, that is. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And look how far they've filled. He's dead. God damn. God, even Samuel L. Jackson would turn white after that. He's got more than your average person's worth of blood. Everybody knows that. It feels like, yeah, didn't they establish this in another soil? You could only lose five pints before you start dying. Yeah. Approximately 10 pints of blood. Yet it is still able to operate with just half of that. Get him down. It's our partners. Maybe he's threatened to kill my father. Oh, see, one bullet. Check the ammo, you fuck. He took a shot at me, by the way. Missed. I wasted four. Means you got one shot left, Zeke. You said that already, but OK. He knows 1.5 gallons of blood in human body, Zeke. 10 pints. The rate your old man's bleeding out. Just three minutes. Your dad will be dead. You timed this so well. Yeah. You knew how long it would take for him to realize the clothespin or the bobby pin and then free the other guy. Wow. Perfect timing, bro. Chris Rock was the one that pulled in a favor for Samuel Jackson. Samuel Jackson's just like, what the fuck am I doing? What even is all this? Like, you remember Saul? Do you ever watch those movies, Sam? And he's like, yeah, I think one of them or two. I'm dying, Zeke. End it now. I'm an eight-year-old man strung up and bleeding to death. Tell him about all the fucking shit you did on Article 8. Oh, no. Article 8. That's the evil one. Remember when they mentioned Article 8 before? It was out of control. Yeah, it's so well-written. Spiral. Kill me. Just shoot me, Plikis. Just shoot me. Shoot, shoot the eyes. I'm still bleeding, by the way, just FYI. I was here. That's why she's been, she got waxed. Angie. It was Angie. Angie. Poor faggot. You can tell what they think that is. This piece of shit, Ezekiel now. Yeah, that's right, because that's what cops do. No, you're a direct threat to someone. You can kill him later, right? You could save your father and then kill this guy later. You don't need to decide. You could shoot me. The music. I've got the actual music. Use not in the way that it's ever been used in any other film, because usually that's when there's like a reveal for a twist. Yeah. But they're just playing it now. Oh, god. He's safe now. Oh, not the blood. We need to round up the building. We need the blood. Dad, drink the blood. Put it back in. Thank you. Don't ask. He's getting away. Motherfucker. I'll be fine. I don't need blood. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I guess I didn't plan for him punching me for all the things I did. I guarantee you, Charlie Clouser didn't compose this part. And they just copy and pasted from the other films. And he didn't intend for that to be here. Yeah. Because this is the first it's ever been used in this context. And Lionsgate was probably like, well, we need to do the saw music at the end, but forgot how it was done. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh. Oh, pulling all the strings. It all fits together. They're going to pop a tear in my black ass. So if the cops come to rescue, so this is just how they lose, lose. Uh-oh. Oh, God. That's dumb. What? Yeah, we didn't see you strung up by ropes or anything. I don't know if he's going to survive this amount of blood loss. It looks like he's doing a Saturday night live sketches of it. It doesn't seem like real earnest acting. Look, he's right there. Oh, my God. We can't leave. Those cops all around the building and everything. So stupid. I hate it. You did it. That is so stupid. Let's talk about the end credit song right now. Oh, wait, what? Oh, yeah. I forget who that is again. It's a. 21 Savage. Yeah, 21 Savage. Thank you. Everything I do, I do. Tis to see it. Kill me. It's the worst movie of 2021. Maybe other years also. That was for Red to sleep. The worst movie of 1968. No, I don't count to say that. The bar was low, but holy fuck. Yeah, cops didn't see the elevator going up. Even make a saw movie. Like the basic things you need to do to make a saw film, they failed that. There's not that much on the checklist to make a saw film. Not. Yeah, it's such a bad attempt to try to be a saw film. Embarrassing. And you had to see it in theaters. We couldn't have released this digitally. You have to see this one in theaters. Trust me. Please tell me this. This didn't money right? Oh, of course it did. Like how? No wonder nobody's ever talked about this film. No wonder at all. Yeah, the reddit really likes it. What? Yeah, they're like, this is one of the. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's just cope. I don't know what it is, but like, there's a good. They're huge chunk of people on the sauce. I've read that really like. What did they say? What is it on the soft subreddit? I don't know. They're probably bots. I have no idea. It's general praise. What was it? Was it because Rocky didn't turn out to die and that was really clever? I don't believe that even people who like this movie comprehend it. I don't I don't like this is one of the most confusing movies ever. God, it was tough to watch. It's like an affluent film that it even exists and is what it is. Yeah, let's let's cancel Lion's Gate. It's good. They had a good run, but it's time to this time. They're still making better decisions. OK. Oh, and you know what the worst fucking part about this shit is? Is Tobin Bell was supposed to be in the Ninth Star film. They had like they had an idea laid out in everything. And then Chris Rock called or however they met and they were like, oh, no, let's do this instead. And they just trusted him. They're like, oh, we got to drop all that for Chris Rock. And they just didn't even put Tobin Bell in the movie. Like this literally the main guy in your fucking franchise that helped it be successful. And you're just like, no, let's put you push you aside for the star power of Chris Rock. That's so shitty. That's like, yeah, that's like actually a bad thing to do. Like they get that a lot very disrespectful to the Ninth one. You should be thankful that the guy who's like the foundations of built with is still around to even be in it. It's like, yeah. And they didn't have that many years left. Like, holy shit, use them all you can. Make a Chris Rock movie in 20 years if you want. He's not going to be around like, fuck. I'm kind of impressed. I'm amazed that Tobin Bell will even agree to be in these movies still. So if he's going to agree to be in it, you should put him in it. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. I know it's not the end of the series, but like what an anticlimactic end for this arc, you know? Well, so they were hoping to make more from this, right? Like I'm assuming Chris Rock. They were hoping this would be a gigantic success. Yeah, we'll get Spiral 2. This will continue the Spiral 2. Yeah, another book of Saw film or something. Yeah, another chapter. Like Jesus Christ. And the conventional Saw film next, right? Yeah. Well, so this is the thing. Saw 10 sounds like it could be way better than Jake Saw and Spiral. Yeah, these lost to being pretty lame. Horrific, I would say. I miss the days of Saw 6, I really do. I remember reading on Wikipedia that they were trying to do like a series, like a Netflix series. So I don't know if it's that or a film. I'm reading right now. A sequel film titled Saw X was confirmed to be in development by Twisted Pictures. Bausman stated that it was a premature announcement that surprised him and the film's producers. He said, just because we made Spiral doesn't mean Saw seizes to exist. Just because Spiral is here, that doesn't mean there won't be a Saw 9. He thinks it's a different thing and that they're... He's like, no, I didn't make a Saw movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not what this is. Even though they're clearly doing Saw X and they're calling it the 10th Saw movie. Yeah, by having a 10th Saw movie that canonizes Spiral as the 9th Saw movie, not as its own thing. He is so embarrassing. I mean, he obviously thought he was gonna try and kick off his own thing. It'd be a different thing, but it's like... I didn't make a Saw movie. No, you know what? No, he didn't. Whatever this is. What else could you even say? I have so little to say about this film. I just wanted to go away. It was so hard to pay attention to. He's a baby. Yeah, thoroughly unremarkable. Yeah. So boring. If you're given the reins to make a Saw movie, then it's not really that complex. Yeah, you have to make some characters who have a bad element of their personality or they're a criminal in some way or they've committed some moral crime. Then you have to put them in a trap that in some way is related to that crime that they've committed. And then you have to make it to where they can escape it. And that's it, really. That's all that's it. In interview footage, Darren Lynn Bowzman said, I'm not joking when I say this, this is real. In interview footage, Darren Lynn Bowzman says, when we wrote the script, we actually wrote all the traps last. We just wrote insert trap here. They wrote the entire script. And he says that as if that's not like a crazy thing to say. We just wrote insert trap here in the script. Like they don't matter. And then those are the ones they came up with. And on top of that, there was apparently a trap, according to Darren Lynn Bowzman and other people that worked on it. There was one that was like too gory and they just removed. Which is weird. It's like, yeah. Because I don't know, they thought they were gonna get NC17 or something. It's like, fuck. That's why we're here. Was there a victim? And we didn't see that, no? Yeah, we want a soft film with less traps, less gore, less fun. More detective shit. If you're gonna have this much detective shit, you have to have Hoffman going through and killing everybody with stab to the face. Yes. I want Hoffman and Tobin Bell. I really want Hoffman back. I want both of them back at the same time for no reason. Both of them too, because it was more entertaining. Hoffman was funny. And he had those characters. Now it's just lame. It's like it's taking itself so seriously. No. I guess all I think with this series is you had a concept that if you wanted to take it seriously and you had all of the talent directed towards achieving that, you could have made something that was actually really good. We never really got that, but then we started to get to a point where it was getting really fun. And this is like the worst of both worlds. You're taking it seriously, but what you're creating is not really that cool or interesting at all. Let's greenlit another soft film. We'll let Chris Rock, who is a comedian and has never made anything like this, decide what to do. And we'll also let it be directed by Darren Lynn Bausman, who now hates the franchise and wants to prove that he's more mature than the movies that he used to do. Yeah. Yeah, like it's a disaster. It really is. It's an absolute disaster. And it could have been prevented by just giving it to somebody who likes the franchise. Give it to Kevin Gruder again. So don't let me down, Kevin. Don't let me down for Psy-X. These two films, yeah. And if it's the same guy who made six and seven, yeah, like Saw-X could be cool. We've talked about it already, but I'd like to continue talking about it. Chris Rock gave one of the worst performances I've ever seen in this movie. He made the woman who played Jill Tuck look like. Oh, my God. You can't believe a single fucking point of the performance. It's just like. Is it nearly as good as Lynn Dunlun? Either you're not taking this seriously or it's embarrassing that you're taking this seriously. And what sucks is that he's given good performances before, like New Jack City, just go back and watch that shit. And it's like, how did, where did you go, Chris Rock? What happened here? He was good in Fargo as well. I liked him in that. Yeah. It's a shame because I'm usually inclined to think that comedians will do a good job if you put them in a dramatic role. I don't know, a lot of the time I find it seems to work, but here it really didn't. I think he just had too much ego going into this or something. Very, very poor direction, if nothing else. Yeah. In this film, yeah, definitely. I mean, that was bad. What is there to say? Sam Jackson wasn't even good in this movie. He was barely at it. He was barely a part of it. Yeah, he probably only had to shoot for what, like one or two weeks. Days. I don't know how they got it. Days, perhaps, yeah, maybe. I would say this was a truly horrifying ending to Halloween. Yeah, I was gonna say, what do you have to say about the sore franchise as a whole? That was weird. Wow, how incredibly unsatisfying and disappointing. I'd say at its best, it's almost getting there. And I think that it would be neat to see a sore one someday that's like a really great film that takes it seriously and is also good. Imagine that. It's possible. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a complex formula. I'm happy with the Goof factor of the other ones. I do enjoy that a lot. I find the plot twist hilarious of the best, that's the peak sore that they've created of this formula. Continue the chronology, please. Make it more complicated. That is the correct thing to do. If we ever get anything close to six again, that would be a six. But a huge mistake was any director, actor, producer, writer, anyone looking at this series and being like, people think this is incredibly horrifying and absolutely serious. And we need to make new plot lines about twists and turns relating to all kinds of interpersonal complications that eventually lead to a big choice right at the end. Is it like trying to set it out as some kind of detective mystery? What the hell is this? Go away. Go away. And then of course, it's not even good. Like you could have made that good, but they know. This was the worst one, even worse than that last one. Easily. Yeah, I put this at the bottom. By far. Not even the worst one. It's not close, even a little bit. Yeah, this one's entertainment factor is actually like, it's a ball in the ocean. It's insane. I mean, if you look at it, Chris Rock's facial expression, so you can get a chuckle out of that, but that's it. If you're watching this with like eight, seven, six, you know, other people and you're mocking it with them. OK, yeah, but god damn. Imagine getting and buying tickets, getting in your car, driving to a theater, going through the theater bullshit and watching it and then having to drive back home for this. Yeah, imagine getting tricked into watching this in theater. What an absolute load of horseshit. Yeah, what a beautiful journey, a beautiful log. This was crazy. Is there anything else that anyone wants to say before we say goodbye? I want no one said game over. No one said game over. Disappointment is a measurable and my day is ruined. We'll make Adam say game over to end the recording. OK, OK. The guy, the guy when he got away in the elevator, he said, instead of. Yeah, like what the fuck? That was great. Cinema because the game isn't over. He has to keep on telling her up. Even though he somehow is. I don't know how he's making a building. Hello, Detective Banks. I want to play a game. How can you do that to the voice? He is a really bad voice. It was a horrible decision. OK, so if it was. If it was rookie doing it. Is that like a text to speech voice? Is that what that was? Oh, I think it is. It showed him editing audio files for a second. I don't know. It's I think they used Microsoft Kermit. Alrighty, game over. There you go. Game over. Can we get another flute? You got to do it in Jigsaw's voice and then you got to do it in the new Jigsaw voice. Oh, no, we'll do two different takes. Game over. All right. That one was nice. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over, Detective. Look, I set the table here. You want to play a game? Game over. What did you bring me?