 What is it like to rob a bank? Everything in your body is telling you to get out of that bank. Just think of like the most anxious anxiety-ridden moment of your life and then times that about about a hundred. And what's weird is sitting here telling you now, I can't imagine going to do that now because my life is so different. But 20 years ago, I was a much different person and very crazy and wild and at the time it sounded like a solution to some problems and turned out not so much. Everyone goes through pretty profound changes between the ages of 20 and 40. Like 20 when I committed the crimes. 40, I'm now dad, husband. And if we know that, we know that people make profound changes. Why do we think prisoners can't?