 All right, fantastic. So, our next talk, behave yourself or not, gender and status untied and Simo Routarine and Barbara Tint. You're so loud. You're so cute. You're a little bit aggressive. Yeah. You seem to take a lot of space being a short person. Yeah, you're something. I can see the woman's touching you. Thanks, it's nothing. Do you need help with your car? I can take charge. You're cute. What is gender? What is gender? What is status? I mean, I usually need two days to go even to the, you know, the core of it. I know, in gender, you can't talk about men and women or boys or girls. I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do. Next slide. Gender and status. And it is a complicated topic. We have 15 minutes and we hope to leave you with something that you can use throughout the conference. Yeah, and as you can see, it's complicated. You can change stuff with little things in your behavior or the props you use. And the reality is like that now, more and more, even in women. Explanation of the validity and complexity of gender that we found. Yes. So this comes from a variety of materials and we want to first try to figure out what we need by gender because people use terms quite interchangeably. So we see it as several things all enclosed. Number one is, biological sex is part of what people think about or mean when we talk about gender. I mean, that could be kind of complicated. And gender identity is something we see inside. It's like, do I know what gender I feel I'm inside of? Do I feel like neutral? I don't know. The third is gender expression, which means how do I show up in the world? Which may or may not be aligned with my identity or my physiological system. But you give kind of an androgen in that sense too. A sexual orientation, which has nothing to do with the previous three. It's what you want, what you want to look. It's what makes you feel pleasurable or whatever. And also that the circle that's circling around all this, are the social conditioning and also role expectation we might have around these things. So it's... Yes. Really? Yes. And we believe and it's not complex to understand that they impact everything. The role expectations, the social conditioning impact everything and it impacts everything differently depending on where we're from. So it's not like a one size fits all phenomena. And when we think about status, the one that we tend to focus on the most is gender expression. So the status is very much about interactional phenomenon around how you show up in relationship with other people related to dominance. And in the opening of the talk we're trying to show you also that status not necessarily is connected with gender complexity but those women and men or whoever in that sort of complexity can use high or low status, can make that choice. And there are also cultural and social conditions and expectations that might make it easier or less easy. Thank you. Thank you for a few short exercises. Really like 30, 45 seconds each. So this is a way to develop some inside awareness. That's our goal is to sort of increase inside awareness, which hopefully you can carry out into the world. For you, for three different groups. And don't move, just turn to people. You can move forward across to the camera because you want to. Don't worry about moving too much. Don't worry about perfect numbers. Okay. And with your three people group, if it's two people, if it's a diet, that's okay too. So please try different ways of taking up space, staying in contact. They can be verbal or physical ways of everybody in your group is trying to take up as much space as you can. Please. And go. Okay. Shut up, kids. Sit down. Okay. So, raucous crowd. Oh my God. Regardless of your gender, we invite you to take a moment to reflect on what that felt like. Did that feel natural? Did that feel like a stretch? Did that feel uncomfortable? Did that feel more comfortable? Just a moment of reflection. Do you ever have to fight for space? Fight for your space? Have you ever experienced that? What if we did the same, with the same group, with the same people? So, let's try to take, like, give space. Instead of taking, we are trying to give space. How does it, what are the means, physical or verbal means to do that? Please. Same group, same group, same people. Just try giving space now. Okay. Thank you, folks. Thank you so much. That was easier on the ears. So, again, take a moment to reflect on what that felt like. Was it more comfortable, less comfortable? More familiar, less familiar? Oh, they're discussing. They're discussing. They're listening. They're debriefing. Oh my God. Okay, folks, since this is 15 minutes. Debrief later. Yeah. So, what about sharing space, taking turns? How would it look like if you would take turns and use space, give space? Share space. Okay. Have a small experimentation. I'd love to have you for two days to do this, just saying. So, take a moment and feel what that felt like. I heard a sigh. Oh, somebody sighed. Sharing space is heavenly. I felt that. Okay. Now, the last thing is that secretly, in your mind, with the same group, choose one. I'm going to take up space. I'm going to be the giver. Or I'm going to share. Or I'm going to share. So, pick one. Just pick one. Don't tell what you're picking. Just do it. And have a go. Okay. And stop. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. We only have three minutes. So, we're not going to debrief this because we want you just to reflect on it, but reflect on what happened, reflect on what you noticed, reflect on how these experiences relate to gender and the conditioning we've had about what's okay, what's not okay, what's appropriate, what's not appropriate, what's comfortable, what's not comfortable, with whom is it appropriate or comfortable? So, the concept of gender is kind of being more and more complicated. Hopefully, towards the end, that it kind of loses its meaning. And status. With status, it's the same thing. It's like being playful and fluid and flexible with status. It kind of loses its bad meanings, at least. Because if we are like, you know, taking, you know, being playful with these things. An invitation for you for the next few days. We're going to give you a virus, a nice virus. A conference virus. So, that if at any point in any interaction you want to play with status, you want to play with what's happening in the interaction, we're going to give you a sign. Sigma, would you like to show them the sign? It's a seesaw. Which means, let's play. We are not giving you this as a tool to call each other out. But it's an opportunity to develop some insights or awareness around what's happening in any interaction, around these kinds of behaviors. Awareness, intention. And choice.