 We do not want to wait any longer. That's what some people are saying. Okay, and this is live heads up. Okay. This is live So if you screw up, it's live I'm used to screwing up live without an ad live without an ad on the show. Taylor Goodman Produced and directed the Lee Chris Lake Documentary that will be out eventually very soon not on the heap. I Guess my first question is what is the title mean, you know, what what is the title mean that has you know Not on the heap none the cheap or is it what is it? So originally The the title was there to help Lee make his comeback and Because he'd been away from the scene for some time since you're right in Ozzie So it was to let them know that he was gonna come back. He was gonna get his career back on track You know, and he wasn't on the heap. He wasn't past his cell by day He still had so much more to give because of his album that he was gonna release My first question was what was your relationship to leave prior to the start of the filming? Okay, so I didn't really know Lee very well I mean, I've known him now well five five or more years, but I met him walking my dog in Crystal Palace Park and Yeah, yeah, and he was he was just so sweet and adorable and we just you know as dog walkers do It's like a social community. You just start talking and he was telling me that he was poorly And he's got cancer And I told him that I just got over some terrible floods in my house where I'd been sick and my cats had died from Obviously this mold poisoning and so we we sat together on the bench in Crystal Palace Park setting the worlds to right And he said to me, do you know what I'd like to do? I'd like to make a music video to say thank you to some Christopher's hospice who's you know helped me Do you know any graduate filmmakers because you know? And I said well, let me listen to your song I'll have a listen and I might be able to find somebody so I took it away that weekend and I just loved it It was just I could see I could see it straight away playing out And I knew it had to be humorous I mean, I didn't know him but just from that, you know the dog walking meetings I knew that he was just a kid at heart and the music video just had to be really funny So I started and bought it bought it back to him and I said well, I'll do it and he said what you'll do it I went yeah, I'll do it and Then I managed to accost lots of other people that I'd met in the park You had like a pyro factory and a farm in Dartford And yeah, we shot it in a day and a half the music video Yeah All to lose everything all for nothing when you met him. Did you go? Did you know of his history as a rich history as a musician? No, I didn't I mean in all fairness I think the only time I got introduced to rock was through my my brothers and T-rex and I think when I was head banging at Rock City and Nottingham What I was listening to I'm gonna be quite honest, but it was great Um, but no, I didn't and I do remember when he told me was in a band called your eye heat I did call my brother and I said Um, I'll be out of a band called your eye heat. I do apologize to all you fans out there now a fan and My brother said, yeah, of course. I've heard of your eye heat and he told me I was like, oh my gosh I'm about to produce this guy's music video and he's going really So yeah, it was it was um, yeah, I had no idea who he was no idea at all I got I just gonna say something that when I did a riot Sort of similar more like a web documentary and I wasn't and I was like you I wasn't the biggest riot fan, but discovering as I was doing the documentary you discover It's kind of like reading a book on a band You don't know and even Alan was sort of saying hey Jimmy check out this by them and check out that album And so you kind of it was kind of enjoyable to actually I knew about the band, but I didn't wasn't that well-versed That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, and I mean I have fallen in love with that music Yeah, it's amazing and I thought how have I spent so many years and not had this around me. So yes It's great. So I didn't know and I didn't really know very much about him at all but I knew I wanted to help him because he was just so inspirational, you know Even though he'd got cancer and he'd had all these problems and he told me he'd lost a lot of money and he He was living on ten pound a week And he wanted to get his career back on track and people were trying to stop him There were people there who didn't want him to get his career back on track and it wasn't really, you know Helping him along the way And I said look the only way we can really do it is by making a documentary and getting your life out there And getting everybody to to see exactly what it is you want to do And so he said well there are things I want to achieve he said and I want to give something back to the fans So yeah, he absolutely adored his fans He really started it started off with like a video for one of the songs off of 11 Tina's solo album And then land morphed into this whole other aspect when he we got some sad news from from the hospital Yeah, absolutely. So we we we had this plan obviously to make this documentary to launch his career But yeah, then he was told he had a year to live Short months to a year and he said because the cancer had gone into his bones And so the story had to change quite a bit to suit that obviously to suit the filming when Lee was in and out of hospital But also it then became a legacy for the fans He kind of knew even though I was hopeful going but every time you're on stage and playing and every time you hear music Your cancer rates come down He kind of like he was still grounding me and going Taylor look I just want to leave a legacy for the fans now. I want to complete my bucket list I want to get my albums back from Aussie. I want to see my old mates, you know for one last time and I like KISS and Joe and Ian I want to get back up on stage with heap just one more time And I want to release my my very first solo album That was then the story that became the story to to complete that bucket list And so it was really important to to tell his story in the rich history Whilst completing the bucket list We don't want to give anything away spoiler alerts or anything But I mean you've got some heavy hitters like you just mentioned there's Ian Pace of Deep Purple and Joe Elliott of Death Leopard and the guys from KISS and One of the touching scenes for me was Eric Singer from KISS the drummer for KISS that when he sat with Lee The respect he has in that that scene that you you show I mean he's analyzing Remember that his drum set up was back in 1975. You know, this is how much of effect Lee's drumming had on him And it was so genuine What was it like being there in that room at that time? It was incredible those boys were just amazing I'd heard some some stories in the media about you know how they were money-hungry people, but they were You know the camaraderie of the rock world is so different from our world in film where anyone was still your ideas and go and Film it and pass it off as their own, but this is really very different It was just they oozed love for each other and the euphoria in the room was just so inspirational I mean they sorted out the whole hotel room for us where we shot and they were just Absolutely adorable and they were great with Lee and they were recording all the times that they spent together You know going out with restaurants and you know It was just lovely to to be part of that even though I couldn't imagine what that was like back in their day I could visualize how it was being there in the room Taylor. That was in the UK, right? Where kiss where were he met kiss? Yeah, they were they were performing in the UK in July and So we were filming them at the Soho Hotel Okay, all right and Joe Elliot. I mean and if we're gonna name names you have Joe Elliot there I mean come on, you know Joe Elliot and and his what was his connection with Lee and I guess they've been friends forever, right? They have been friends. Yeah forever. Absolutely, and they played together on the stage quite a lot And we were initially gonna get Lee to get up on stage with Joe and that was part of the plan Unfortunately, he was too sick at that point to be able to play that one out But what I wanted to do was I wanted to create a documentary that had a bit of movement in it And was a little bit of fun because that was Lee's character. He was just a big kid and so, you know, I thought it'd be great to to go over and to Dublin and Film them being taught how to pull pints at the Guinness factory That brought I was able to do the same thing a couple of years ago So brought back a lot of good memories of of going around the Guinness factory in the museum there. Oh, yeah Great place really good place But yeah, it's a really good place for them, you know for them to have met and just done something different instead of always jamming or just a Straight interview, but you know just to have you know that them talking to each other and enjoying their company for What Lee said was going to be the last time And of course who else with Ian Pace, right of deep purples in the in the movie I mean, look you got kiss you got Joe Elliot from Def Leppard You got Ian Pace or deep purple, you know Ian Pace is is hanging out with Lee, right? Yeah, yeah, they have been friends for many many years and what was great was to see them in in in Ian's drum studio in his house And he's got this new electronic drum kit and Lee just couldn't wait to get on it. In fact, you couldn't get him off and His new toy and Ian was teaching him going, you know, if you play this and you hit you hit the symbol here You can actually write a whole song just by this sound And just watching the pair of them like two young kids in the toy shop was yeah, it was lovely Yeah, I mean, I think they go back. I read I was reading, uh, you know, they shared a rehearsal space back in the early days Deep purple in your eye heap and That's where they became such good friends and and the respect that Ian had for Lee comes through in the documentary for sure And and you know, he was a bit jealous because and that's what I took away from the film very surprising Yes, we knew he was a great drummer. Yes, we know he was a great harmony. So everybody, you know keyboardist, ranger, composer And he sings while he plays drums. So that's something Ian Pace says I can't do and Beyond me how he does it that it's just the multifaceted aspect of Lee's life and his talent And he was funny too The bear He tried to direct the movie quite a few times Which I just loved yeah, you have to love every bit about him What was the most difficult aspect of Filming this with with all the challenges that that came with it Wow There's been so many there's been so many and the funding trying to get the funding together Which I can only say thank you to all the fans out there who have helped with that um So that the funding was a big one really, um, I shot most of it myself with a camera on my shoulder Um, I bought the bigger cruise in for When we did the o2 So when we when we're doing shoots like that, um, so it didn't cost as much as I thought it was going to cost Well, it couldn't because I had to bring you know the cost down and I think that the second biggest thing really was Waiting for Lee because he was in and out of hospital So many times and whilst we didn't want to show too much of that because Lee was a very proud man He didn't want his fans to remember him that way. He wanted them to remember him for the information that he was So we only showed you know, just small vinaigrettes of that But he was in and out of hospital quite a lot Um everything from his cancer to his kidney stents So yeah, it was waiting quite a bit and and there were times when he couldn't even pick up drumsticks You know, I don't want to give away too much of the the plot. I guess he has a bucket list He meets his friends along the way on that bucket list, right He comes to california He goes to california to be inducted into the metal hall of fame, which pretty much everybody knows And it was a big moment for him because that's kind of where I met him too, right? And and and huge hats off to pat just waldo who's in this film too the CEO of the the metal hall of fame who had the sort of who the foresight to to recognize the legacy of lee curse lake and to put him up on stage and one thing I got to tell you is I know it was very difficult because it was in california and you're in the uk and you just can't get there but I would call he was surrounded. He was surrounded by people like some You know joe elegant rock star-ish type, you know, like he was Adored by everyone and it was the first time the roads family actually met lee curse lake After all those years, yeah Yeah, no, I mean that was incredible pat pat did a wonderful thing and lee was so excited and we can't You know and pat enough because you also gave us some beautiful footage that were used in the film as well And he was just super super excited and it was a really important day for him And and I remember filming impacting to go and he was just His childlike self You're looking for his socks and trying to get everything packed in But he was super excited about going over there And he just talked about it and talked about it and he kept telling everybody even when he went to the hospital He's going I'm being inducted into the metal lord of history and he would tell everybody Um, and it was wonderful and he was so proud also to to pick up the randy roads award as well That that's that on his on his table as well. He was super super proud of that Um, but yeah, I mean we can't thank you all enough and as I said, you know Some of the important parts of the film this it really is a fans film And we wouldn't have done it without all of you Because with your footage and putting a call out to some of the fans out there Who contributed some old photos and some, you know, additional live footage as well It's just been incredible and I do now understand what lee meant when he said he absolutely adored his fans and how loyal they all were because They all came forward and which saved us huge amounts of money Um, you know having to to buy the stock footage the archives. It's so expensive You're talking about a thousand pound a second for certain things Yeah, yeah, exactly. We didn't have that budget. It was being funded by myself and lee put a bit of money in And thankfully the bounce back loans came in with coveted not thankfully for coveted, but um, so that kind of helped To to bring it along then some of the crowdfunding and then with the reduction Um in the cost due to the fans putting their their footage and photographs in We we went from what was a budget of 146 A thousand down to 55 Oh, yeah, wow So, you know, we wouldn't have ever raised that it wouldn't have happened. So it really is a fans film For sure. Oh, yeah, you mentioned earlier There's some days you couldn't even pick up or hold the drumsticks because the arthritis in his hands But and then I don't want to give anything away with there There's other scenes where like you said the power of the music And it would just lift them up You thought it was wheelchair bound and actually, you know, he's on stage dancing and actually playing drums. So Maybe I just want to know your since you were there in person Just your thoughts about really the power of music and how it affects people I think after speaking to to to joe to joe elia and ian You know and to mickey box the wonderful mic box Yeah, I'd like to mention him. Yeah So special throughout all of this And without him we wouldn't have got lee, you know to to where he was but um, they all talk about music being a drug um And you can see that because what happens is they're on stage and they give out so much and then the audience Hundreds of people in the audience give it back and of course when that hits you The euphoria is amazing, you know, and there are times when You know, I even went up into the gods and right into the to the top where people were sitting to watch him Because I couldn't believe that he'd gone from a wheelchair and where he was right now It just it was almost like the cancer had been taken away It's like it didn't exist. He was a completely different person on stage Um, and then of course when the music ended and he came back off stage again We went back to to where he was. Um, but for that for that short moment To watch that kind of gave you hope in a way that Yeah, it gave you hope just for him but for other people that music is a drug and it can heal You know what amazed me so During the day today, I put on the Ozzy Osbourne albums Blizzard of Oz and Diary of a madman There is such a big difference between that era and the rest of Ozzy's career, especially The combination between bob daisley lee curse like randy rose and Ozzy himself There was this something magical About that group, you know, those guys working together um lee was so such uh Such a great musician slash singer sang songwriter He came up with the melodies for diary of a madman. He was such a huge He was one fourth of those those albums. That's what I want to say and a big 25 percent, you know Um, I just want him to say that that was my statement. How's that? We've had we've had We've had the fortunate enough to interview bob daisy on a couple of occasions And that's what he keeps going back to we were four we were four members of a band And you can't take one part away when they try to get rid of lee Um, he said you're breaking up the chemistry of the band which joe actually speaks about in in your documentary and Bob was adamant that it was a four piece band and you couldn't remove anybody without losing anything or changing What about the osborns? Have you sort of are they kind of like Taking a look and saying hey, there's a you know, maybe they're sort of going to participate At least in watching this or Well, I would I hope they would watch it because it is a feel-good film It's it's not a film to put anyone down. Yes to tell the facts Um, and people can feel what what they feel about it You know, they they did come good in the end and I think the main thing was, you know lee Always kept saying, do you know what the past is the past? You know what what will be will be and he was amazing like that. He said it's all water under the bridge with him Um, I do hope they see it because as you know, there's nothing detrimental in there It's really just, you know state what's already out there in the media of what happened. Um, and at the end of the day lee was a lot happier With what he got So what so what are the plans? What are the next plans to get this out into the public now from london bridge film? So it's gone in front of um A small amount of people to see it. It's out with a sales agent. So we have an agent out there who's pushing it Our first interest came from america, which I was kind of hoping it would sorry uk sales distributors I was kind of hoping that's where it would be pitched. Um, so we have had um an interest from there to show it To a select number of distributors um, so our fingers crossed that's going to go ahead, but then also, um We we did get a I got contacted um a couple of days ago by a chap who's produced lots of music documentaries Has has a record label. It's quite well known. So i'm not going to mention any names And he's watched the movie and he was absolutely blown over and said that he would love to help move it Um, so there's a lot of interest there I mean, he did have a little part to play in it because they allowed us to use some of their footage from mosco that they filmed Which is beautifully shot beautifully shot piece of footage Um from mosco, which would have cost As I said, you know thousand pound a second if we got it through Any of the uh your general archive, um organizations So they were great and said look, you know, just just payers when it gets sold Um, and you know use it and we'll do everything we can to help So So this is just everybody knows this is complete. It's it's as they say it's done, right? It's a wrap It's in the can It's in the can it's ready to go. You just need to sign the right distribution deal, right? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely And I just really I just want to get it out there because the fans have been waiting so long Um, and I just I just hope I've done Lee proud You know, I think you have me and I watched it and it kind of made me sad because I had a lot of you know, I've done a lot of interviews with lee and uh, you know I don't know it kind of hurts me maybe because I was a little it was more personal for me But uh, and I'm sure for you it was really, uh difficult, uh, you know, especially You know a sad he was getting better He was getting better at one point and then it just sort of you know, it all fell apart But I'm happy that you kept the positive aspects of it in there And you know what it's it's better to remember someone like you said In a positive light then sort of like at a negative tone or Yeah, I mean there were some beautiful moments I mean we were like three musketeers going around Jake the wonderful guitarist lovely jade libretto And he was who obviously worked on the album with lee and lee and myself It was we traveled around various places filming. It was just it wasn't ever like work It was just too much fun at times and No, he was just hilarious. I thought I was going to split my sides lapping You know and he'd come out with some funny things and his funny accents But there's one beautiful piece and I think you mentioned it earlier on is we went back to his hometown where his career all started And he was sat by the sea and um, you know, I said to him. Are you afraid of dying? And I asked the question because he what he went back to say goodbye to the town for the last time which was incredibly moving and um I remember him him sitting there and looking out to sea and uh You know, he was really positive. He was so positive about I'm not afraid I'm not afraid of dying because I know there's something out there. I don't know what it is There's some kind of energy. I know there's something there and everything's going to be okay And then he just you know, he looked out to sea and then the next minute It was so sad and then the next minute we went off and he was singing with his old buddy toni let's from the track marks and then beautiful songs and everything else and That is one of my favorite parts of the film is where they're just walking and talking the next minute They put the music on and start singing like they've never been a part Um, and that that was yeah, that was just heartwarming and especially after that little trip to the beach as well. It was Yeah, I I could tell you something about lee. He did not give up No never gave up There's a lot of people who have cancer and they go, okay, I'm done and you roll all you roll over basically But he never for a second gave up and he kept fighting and fighting and from what I remember what he told me was After they gave him eight months to live and he lived another year And then they gave him another eight months to live and he lived another year and it kept going on and on and on like that Right and he kept postponing it because he just kept maybe it was you and that and and you know His soul album and his bucket list and he completed it. He completed his bucket list with the exception of nico, right? But he pretty much completed it that that's He did I mean we did want to interview nico and nico agreed Um, and obviously we were meant to fly out to their rehearsals in paris But lee was too poorly at the time to do that And then nico was going to be flying over to the uk and that got postponed And then they said no well well as you're coming over to the states when he came over to the metal hall of history awards He was also we were also going to try and organize it that he got to meet with nico again Again, something happened where the two were then ended up on completely different islands Um, so at the end of the day, I just thought you know as much as I love him and you know to be in the in the film Um, we can't fly lee out ever again. That that was his his last flight out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And you know what I just what timing, you know, it all happened in perfect Timing everything just happened and he did 11 team jimmy. It's 11 team. How come there's no 11 team There's 13. There's 14. There's no 11 team Counting studio go nine 10 11 team That's what jimmy was just meant to maybe we can leave with that is You know, you're saying you never gave up. What was the one? Take away being with lee all that time in documentary this that you could take away that we can all learn from lee as we move forward Well, his favorite his favorite saying was it is what it is And he would just he would say it with such inspiration and and such a life that you just felt that you were invincible That you would go on forever and everybody else would He helps you to come he helped everybody to come Yeah, yeah, he passed away and I came in says he passed away the 19th of september 2020. I think that was the date. Yeah, I think, uh Well, you know, you know what we wish you all the success and you know, you come back on and you tell us how it's going I'll unless you have something else you want to add. I mean, I don't want to give any spoilers Tell everybody London Bridge films not on the heap with Taylor Goodman and wish you all the best. There's some very touching moments I won't do any spoilers, but it was a great film. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and I'm glad I hope everything goes well with your signings and we can get this film out to the public And and people can actually see the trailer the mini trailer we did for the distributors It's actually on the London Bridge films website. There's a whole Decaded to not on the heap So if anybody wants to go and just watch the you know, the trailer's a couple of minutes long Feel free to head over to to londonbridgefilms.com and you'll you'll be able to see it I'll add it to the video description of this interview. Yeah And I just checked this morning Cherry red records you can get 11 teen on cd the vinyl sold out But you can get his solo album at the age of 71 You can get that off a cherry red records 11 teen by lea first like so all right And on that note Thank everybody. Is there any questions? I'm just like there's all these questions going but we're We're just want to ask you the questions, right? If anybody has a question, maybe one or two we can ask Taylor About the movie. I mean, I think we pretty much covered everything though It's it's to be determined. I guess everybody could go to your website, right? To for any updates They could email you I guess there, right? They could contact you Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, all right Okay, well me and Alan we're going to jump on To our next show today, but not now not this segment in about 15 minutes and You know, everybody, uh, stay tuned. We're going to be talking about the sad another sad death of johnny's azula It's you know an icon in the hard rock and heavy metal Medium or industry whatever you want to call it. Yeah And uh, thank you so much. Taylor. Thank you so much for joining us and thank you for preserving lee curse lakes legacy Thank you so much and thank you for having me Have a good day. Thank you very much