 Good Monday morning and welcome to run it back. We are back here in Los Angeles bright and early. Well, the three of us are in Los Angeles. We've got Evan Turner and Eddie Gonzalez. My name's Michelle Buto, but we've also got shams who could not possibly be missing out on a morning like this. Well, we've got all this great basketball to talk about and teams go into their conference finals. But thanks, Jah Shams. What's the latest with Jah Morant? Jah Morant has been suspended essentially indefinitely from all team activities this offseason from the Grizzlies. There's an NBA investigation that's commenced now. He was seen holding a gun in an Instagram live video over the weekend. And this is the second time in three months that this has happened. The first time came in Denver and March. He was intoxicated. This one was really looked like to be in the middle of the day. And when Adam Silver met with Jah Morant in March, he told Jah Morant, this cannot happen again. He was convinced he got a pretty assured Jah Morant that he understood exactly what he did and he would be better from it. But clearly two months later, he does the same action again. And there were no laws broken in March. There didn't appear to be any laws broken the other day. But from the standpoint of breaking morality with the league, it's going to be conduct detrimental to the league. And there is concern. There's definitely a fear around the Grizzlies even internally that this is going to result in a pretty serious suspension for Jah Morant. The investigation does show that the gun was his and this did occur in the recent days. It's detrimental to the team. It's also stupid to humanity. You can count it as that as well. Your reaction, woke up yesterday, saw this and went, huh? It's just definitely cringe-worthy. I mean, after a couple months ago, it was super tough. Everything that occurred with the team, the position you're in, you're really scared for the player as well. He made a huge mistake, of course, and then to kind of replicate that is something you never want to see. You never want to occur and you kind of are just like, oh, the decision-making position you're in, your role model, a great player in the future league and your organization, it's just a tough situation being you hate to see it. And as a former NBA player, I hate to see one of your brothers go through this, but there's going to have to be some accountability and obviously some accurate. Yeah, I mean, look, he's broken no laws as best we know. Sure. He's the right to bear arms and all this great stuff. But clearly whatever happened in March or whatever it was, didn't matter and didn't care about any repercussions. He sat on the podium just a few weeks back and said, hey, yeah, looking back, my situation definitely hurt my team. And then he does it again. So he doesn't care about that or maybe he does and he just can't get right. I don't know what's going on, but the point is whatever happened last time changed nothing. And he's not more conscious of it. He's not more understanding of that. He's not thinking of the big picture of his Nike deal, his Grizzly's deal. He doesn't care about none of that. And so like I think in a vacuum, hey, having a gun, not a big deal. Getting on Instagram with it, kind of dumb, but not a big deal. But the fact that he didn't learn anything throughout this and is here we are back again. There's a game summer, gave seven yesterday with the MVP. The goat beat the, you know, his long time rival a few days before that, the, the reigning MVP. Before that, he won a series the other day and we start all talking about Job Morant because it's just that idiotic. And so well, a lot of people had a grace for him last time. Hey, we don't know what he's going through. Oh, this don't have it this time because now we do know and he just doesn't care. Does he know how stupid he looks like it's one thing that like you want to love guns, man. I don't care. That's, that's on you. Be responsible about it though. And it's not about legality. It's, it's who you are and what you represent and you have different rules. That's just the way life is. You have different rules because of the opportunity you've been given in life. But it's like he's 12 and pretending he's in a music video. And I don't, it's pathetic looking. It doesn't look cool at all. I don't know who it's for. I think at a certain point, I think he's going through a lot of points where he need to be mature. I think at every point of league, you go from being a cute little kid to being, you don't need to be an acute little kid to being a rookie to, you know, crossing over and comprehending you're the vet and the leader of a franchise. So the little stuff that you used to do, the stuff that you used to get away with, you no longer can do it because now they're looking for you to carry a whole city. At one point a whole, a whole, you know, organization, a whole corporation, the NBA, you just want to face this of it. And when it's coming down to that, I think he really has to lock in, turn a corner and be the ones, you know, giving out the conversation, taking a Damien Lillard type lead or taking a Steph type lead where you're, you're accountable and you take ownership of every environment that you're in because you're really that big of a figure in a world that's looking to you to what you're going to do. So, you know, he's a role model. Everything he does is going to set the tone. But, you know, the bigger you get, the more unreal it all gets. And he has to comprehend that. It's frustrating, Shoms. Are we expecting more? I mean, is there any limit to what he could be punished with? Is what I'm, I guess, trying to say. Could it be a long time? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Adam Silver is going to have full jurisdiction. Now, I think there's this thought of full season. Gilbert Arena's got essentially a full year ban. But for him, he brought guns to the arena. They were out. They were displayed. It was on team property. This happened in the off season. So if you're looking at presidents, this did occur in the off season and he did get eight games last time for a similar incident. If this is his gun or if he did display, this happened the other day. The investigation all proves that you would expect a more serious suspension. I don't know if they go the full year, whether it's twice as many, whether it's in the 20s, 30s. I think that's all stuff that people around the league are talking about. But guys, even more crazy is this is he's him and his group. Clearly they're showing and displaying his actions to the public. This isn't like this is being leaked to the media. That this is some video that I've gotten a hold of and I'm putting out. They're going out of their way to showcase it. And so I do think it does show a pattern of behavior for John Morant for his inner circle and they're going to need to be hard conversations. Beyond any suspension, I think this summer for John Morant and whatever training that occurred before either didn't work or maybe he's going to need more from the league and we'll see what comes down in the coming weeks. I mean, I always did laugh at the idea that he was going to rehab for what nobody ever was able to tell us. We weren't sure, but how crappy are his friends? Like what are we doing here? I mean, it's tough. I think as an individual, you really look at your friends and your environment to, you know, the same goals you're going to be as successful as your five closest friends. And I think, you know, as a unit, it takes a community to really, you know, push yourself ahead and you know, really stay focused. And, you know, sometimes it's terrible to really, you know, if he goes back and look on this and be like, yo, we messed this up. I think, you know, your environment and people you hang out with. You got to comprehend it takes a village and this isn't just his responsibility. It's everybody's. So much money, Eddie. So much money, Jof. What are you doing? You're one of the faces of a league, not just your own team. You slap him on the wrist like that and you're all complicit at that point. You know what I mean? And that's how I feel looking back at whatever happened. He served eight games, came back, got right back into the playoffs. Really two. Nike roll out. Really two. Really two. And nothing, nothing changed. There's zero consequences to that besides sitting down for an interview and lying essentially. And yeah, that's what you get. You slap somebody on the wrist. They might touch the cookie again and they won't care. Here's what we're not going to do. Wrap him in hugs and thoughts and prayers. We're not going to do that this time. This time it's on you, dude. And you need to figure out what's wrong with your life and keep it moving. And God, we're done with it though. We can stop talking about John Moran. Because I'm with Eddie. There's so much more to talk about. We'll start with this. Oh, dear. Celtics just crushed. Crushed the Sixers. Tatum, oh my goodness. 112, 188. They move on to the, or 88. They move on to Eastern Conference Finals. 51 points is most in game seven in NBA. History. NBA finished with 15 and eight. But Jason Tatum, he's one of those guys where sometimes you're like, what happened? This was not that day for him, Evan. He was perfect. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean, you started off on a mission. You saw the first play. One of the first plays of the game came out. Got a two-hand dunk. I mean, you know, last couple of games, you hear about his offense the whole time. They were talking about the first quarters, how many times he's missed so many shots in the first quarters, the streak, and everything like that. It's the same guy that got three 50-point games in a span of a month. He's a walking bucket. Like I told you before, he's one of the best players in the world. He said it before. He went out and proved it. Just two weeks ago. Humbly. Humbly. Two weeks ago. You know, the golden child, Steph Curry, the one we all love. He broke the record for most points in the game seven. Tatum follows it back up. I think he, this is going to foreshadow a lot. I think he's coming for the championship. And, you know, blasts off into a different space. I talked to him yesterday. He said, I'm happy the record's back. One of the bros. Kevin had 48. Steph broke his record. Got 50 now. He got 51 another week later. His game five was, was impactful to me because he started out with one of nine. He could not buy a bucket, but he was rebounding. He was finding ways. He was defending. He was getting teammates involved. They kept that game close. And I said, I said on Twitter after that, that's like superstar stuff. He eventually got some buckets laid in and they ended up losing. But it was like, that was the beginning of a turnaround. And then the same thing happened in game six. He started rough. He ended up having a massive fourth quarter, keeping their series alive. And then, and then game seven, he does what he does. And I told him, I said, yo, I knew the shots would eventually fall. You were so impactful in the game that eventually when they feel, when they feel something like this is going to happen. And that's how great he is to be able to shoot through that, to get through that, to continue to find ways to help your team. And then when you need him most, home court is why home court matters. He does that. Literally a historic performance. It was incredible to watch. I'm happy for Jason Tatum himself. I definitely agree with you. Like it's all around game. We're so used to him, having crazy offensive nights. But each game, he's been in 12, 13 rebounds, dominating, moving the ball all around, six, seven assists. And you know, even on his off nights, he's getting 25 points, 12 rebounds, six, seven assists. What do we, he hasn't, he just started finding stroke again. So think about what's going to happen next series and come down in that situation. I think we're, I got myself just winning. Jimmy Butler, Jason Tatum. I like it. I like it a lot too. I like this a lot. Look, this, this game got ugly. I mean, it was the first half. You're just like, okay. Something. And then I don't understand what happened. But as you can imagine, I want to ask Shoms how he thinks they were able to contain that guy and the other guy in B. What happened, Shoms? Offensively, they just look totally out of sorts. And I think one thing that was interesting that Philly went away from is that pick and roll with James Harden and Joel and B. That pocket pass that's been available throughout these playoffs that's made those two guys the most dynamic duo, possibly in the pick and roll in the league, it really went away. And what you saw is the Celtics were conceding the corners. It hurt them earlier in the series when PJ Tucker guys got going from three point range, but they tested the Philly shooters and they just were not able to make shots down the stretch of these games, especially as the game went on and Philadelphia really lost this game in the second quarter. And so as the pick and roll was eliminated, you can see the corners. You saw James Harden time and time again, he drove, passes to the corner. He took what the defense gave him and the Sixers just did not find any way to adjust their game plan. Offensively, they were totally out of sorts. As you can imagine, Philly fans are handling this very well. They're on Twitter calling this a classic Philly choke job. Do you agree or did the better team just win? I think the better team just wanted to be. Really? I honestly think so. I think, I'm just historically, I feel like the Celtics have always had their way with the Sixers. I think, you know, I think the two best players on the Celtics outmatched the two best players on the Sixers in my opinion. It's great as Joelle and B it is. I just think Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are at that level. And when you sit there as well, historically not to knock on, James Harden has never been great in game sevens. Ever. So when you sit there, you get that going versus a couple guys that have been in tons of game sevens and had that experience and, you know, have a championship taste in their mouth. It doesn't shock me. And like I said, I think the best team won. And I think it could have been done in six. But could you argue the choke job started in game six? I mean, if you really wanted to be a Philly hater, I guess. They had them on the ropes in Philly. You got to finish that series. Yeah. You know your team. Doc Rivers has lost the most game sevens of all time. He's lost three one before. It was fascinating with multiple times. He's lost three two multiple times including now. Well, this hurts. He's lost game sevens of the finals. It's it's a tough reputation to have. James, as you mentioned, similar thing. And you look on the other side, Jason Taylor's working here. He's playing game seven with LeBron James. He's been doing this since he got in the league. Jalen Brown, same thing. They've been playing and making deep playoff runs since they got in the league. I believe I've seen the stat yesterday. Jalen Brown is the most game sevens ever before the age of 26. And Jason Taylor has the most game sevens ever before the age of 25. So they do they do this. They're used to this and they're used to doing it on their court. They stepped up when it mattered most. James Harden, only only three of 11 yesterday. They didn't even score 10 points. Come on, man. Only two free throws. What is it? This game was tied 55 55. I know. How does that happen? No disrespect to James, but how does it happen three four eleven and game seven elimination? And that's your reputation? That's that's that's that's type crazy. I've seen the stat yesterday. Eddie, you could get 10 points. I know it. You probably could. I seen the stat yesterday. The 33 to 10 third quarter, which is where the game was decided. They that's a that's a 23 point difference. They lost by 24. It was the most lopsided quarter in a game seven since 1997. That's how historically bad that quarter was. Do you have the MVP? You've James Harden won the greatest scores of all time. You can't score 11 points in a must win game in a quarter. You deserve to lose. I think it is a choke job. I think it's there's a lot of changes. I mean, Shams are no better than us. But you got to figure Doc Rivers is on the way out of town. Rumors about where James Harden may be playing next. It's a lot going on in Philly right now after that. Yeah, it's it's the deja vu part of the end of a Philly season coming up next. But and be look and be the very emotional roller coaster for him in this playoffs, because you win the MVP, get to accept it in front of your fans. And then here he is after last night's game. I can't win alone. I can't me and James we just can't win alone. You know, that's why basketball is played five on five. So, you know, we just need to abide to just, you know, try to keep finding ways to get better and, you know, we'll be fine. My ears are going. Did he say me and James? James, what's he talking about? You just being a friend or they might be taking vacation together. He's still thinking about the MVP watch. He got him. But I will say it's about like the franchise players. Like, I know you say you can't win alone, but you get, like, 90% of the salary. You shoot 90% of the rock. At the end of the day, like, I said it before, it's not about the X's and O's. It's about the Jimmie's and Joe's. When you get to that point, you carry us over the top. So, it's crazy when it comes down to it, they try to blame everybody else and not saying it was so malicious. But it's like, no, it's on James and it's on Joel and B. Yesterday, Jaylin, Jaylin and Jason carried them to a game seven title over two of the top offensive players in the league and blew them out by 30. So, what was the difference between their greatness and your greatness? I love NB, but that kind of felt not cool at all. I've seen people say they quote that board context and all the stuff and he's, he takes some account of it. He saw 518 yesterday. Come on. He had 15 points, eight rebounds. He was outmatched in every way by Jason's, by Jaylin Brown, kind of by Malcolm Brogdon. PJ Tucker had a couple of threes for them. He stepped up when he did. Tobias Harris had 19 points, had a great game, hit some big shots. And to get up there and say, y'all lost? Not me? That was kind of crazy. And look, help us out with the 55, bro. Like, with the 51 points out there. Help us out. Like, what do you... Or Jimmy Bucks is in South Beach, not tripping a lost Tyler Hero. Not tripping at Kyle Lowry's getting older. Not tripping. Yeah, I mean it, you know, he got Coach Zeller playing at a certain level. Like, no, overcome it, call it a day and win. You said you got two of the best offensive players in the history of the game. You're in the locker room scrolling through your phone and your MVP. He's on the podium saying that. Oof. That hurts. Yeah, I'll be in Bermuda. Bermuda. Good luck, Joe. That hurts. Especially because your name dropped James Harden and you're kind of like, well, that's not quite accurate now. No, I would have just tweeted into, like, Brogdon averaged in seven points for the past three years. So the fact that my name is brought up or, like, you talk about PJ Tucker, like, y'all let PJ Tucker play 30 minutes a game and not score. Like, that's not the reason. You understand what I'm saying? Like, you got MVP when it's just you and James. So that is what it is. I mean, it'll bounce back as I'm learning points. 27% from the floor last night for Joel and B. Yeah, Amy, you can't win it alone like that. You're right. Well, as sure as the sun will come up today, it's now time to talk about Doc Rivers and the safety of his job. Six for the last 22 and potential closeout game It just, this is what we do at the end of seasons, right? So this time, this time, once again, should they move on? It's so, it's so hard to really say that because when you deal with this team, this team isn't like a regular NBA team. This is a superstar team and only certain personalities can really handle it. And then it's like, who else is up in the chamber to really help that out? Obviously, you see Monty Williams. He's free right now, but you're not so much coaching. You're more so managing personalities and, you know, trying to keep, you know, the wheels moving. I feel as though when you comprehend dealing with superstars that have, you know, that makes so much money. They're global icons, global figures, every rap song. They're moving how they want to move. So I think it's all about how you deal with the stars more so than, you know, if it's an X and O thing. Sometimes you might have all the right answers and they just might not like you and they'll just get you fired. So who would you bring in next that you think or really keep their attention and change the culture? I think sometimes it's about, you know, is it a dock thing or is it an organizational thing? You know, because you look at Ben Simmons, he's posting from SBA. Oh, he's dead, isn't he? He's not accountable. You understand what I'm saying? We're looking at so much of the players, the people in the front office, maybe so much as how the players are and how the culture is and how the leaders really set the tone for it. Yeah, Dr. Rivers is an interesting situation. I don't want to make it sound like I think I know more basketball than Dr. He's forgotten more basketball than I've learned. He's played a great career. He's won championships and all that. But when you watch this happen over and over again, when you watch these fallouts over and over again, they have the collages of the important games they've lost, the Sixers. Look, he didn't have Joel go out there and miss all those shots. He didn't have James look lethargic. He didn't have a, but somebody's head will roll. And when you see somebody like Joel say some stuff like that, he said after the game, you wonder what the hell's going on in that locker room. Doc doesn't have the most sterling reputation among players around the league. Even his son is kind of like hated playing with them too. That could be an Austin thing. It's hard to say. I think he's going to go and I think it does turn into what Evan said, like who's available. You know, it, Nick Nurse, do we want Budenhozer? We want Monty Williams. On and on and on, are there viable candidates? And I think they also need to figure out what the future of this team is in general. James Harden going to be there. Well, there you go. Is Joel and beat happy? Is he going to be a guy who's going to eventually want out? On and on and on, they have the Tobias Harris contract they've been trying to get rid of for years and years and years. They're going to have to pay Tyrese Maxey eventually. They now have P.J. Tucker who has a player option for year three who you best believe he's picking that up. They're tied up. They're tied up. And when they brought in Daryl Maury, it was always a sign like, hey, eventually Daryl Maury is going to want his own coach, whoever that is. So when you bring in your president, you bring in your coach. That's always a bad sign for the coach. And I'd expect him to be out. But we've expected him before. Yeah, I don't know where they go from there, though. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, the next question is, when do you end, I guess, the process, quote unquote. You don't get rid of MB, but. That's right. The process. Last time they made it or advanced as far or where they were at was 2012. And that was when myself, Iguodala, drew how they were on and they redid the process, try to jump, jump, load it, jump, start it and everything like that. And they only made it to the second week. Again, ever since. And they spent a hundred bajillion dollars since then. So it's either facts. Blow it up or just, you know what I'm saying? New process. That's what I'm saying. I don't want to, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but I'm starting to not trust the process. When I was there and they were starting the process, I'm like, damn, is this really worth it? You know, but it's a little ogre for two years and ten years down the road, all you have to show for it is Joel and B. And you got just as far as you guys got. No, that's what did we do? I mean, well, you spent a billion in salary basically. Yeah. Or a hundred bajillion is what I prefer you. You go back to that. Spend it all. Like that. Look, part of the ends of seasons are the firings of coaches. In this particular year, did take the team to the twenty one finals, was coach of the year in twenty twenty two. Now he's without a gig, shams the dismissal of Monty Williams. What was it just as simple as game six? Well, I'm told this was unequivocally organizational decision from ownership to management top to bottom. I think when you look at it, Monty Williams four years there, they made it to the NBA finals, got to the second round a couple of times and you have to give what he's done the last four years, turning them from the bottom dwelling teams of the league to being a team that's highly, highly competitive. But this is a team that's trying to compete for championships and anytime there's an ownership change. Matt Ishvia is now the owner. That's just the business of basketball. There's new ownership. There's a championship level focus now. Matt Ishvia, James Jones. I expect them to be very aggressive in the marketplace to go find what they want to turn the keys to that can have respect, accountability with the players, have offensive creativity. I think those are all going to be prerogatives for the sons in their next head coach. And this is an ownership that is pretty resourceful. They're eating three years and $21 million on Monty Williams contract. So I think it's obvious they're fine going out there and spending a lot of money. This is a destination job with Kevin Durant, Devin Brooker Lockton for the long run. A couple of names I would look at pretty strongly here. Tyron Liu, head coach of the Clippers. He's the son's number one target from what I'm told. It all just depends on how Tylu's conversations go with the Clippers and the aftermath of this disappointing season in LA. And the potential of him signing a contract extension with the Clippers. Where do those conversations go this week? I think they will ramp up even more. And another guy to keep an eye on Nick Nurse, I don't know. I would expect them to ultimately interview six to seven candidates for this open position. That's the Tylu one's interesting because you've got two superstars in LA but they're never available. You move over here with two superstars who seem to be more available. But new owner, a coach that guys seem to like, how risky of a move is this? It's really risky, especially not knowing the market for coaches. I would think one of the coaches you wanted, he just signed a contract. And that was never available to you. Another coach you want, Tyrone Lou, he's on a team now. So it's either going to cost you draft fix now or if he resigns and then signs it to you and then the NBA investigates and whatever they might cost you draft fix later when they penalize you but it's tough and you look at the job market who is the right coach for this team. What even is this team? They have a ton of questions to answer that people in the league love. Everybody loves Arizona. You got two mega stars on that team and even though they flamed out just now it's enticing for a coach to go what can I do with K.D. and Devin Booker and a blank slate. So I mean they'll be at it for a while I'd imagine and you know somebody's going to land a good gig but they're going to have a ton of pressure when they get out there because it's championship or bust for that team and that Omer right now. I think too as well we're bringing up everybody in regards to a blank slate I believe Steve Ballmer's going to come with a blank check and he's not he's not letting that guy walk away but I think it's a great job to have you have K.D. in the last few years of a and it's prime along with Devin Booker and I think if you get you know some more energy around there some more defenders and you know a little bit more depth you know you'll be playing deep into playoffs every single year and the environment and the new energy is going to be great. Look you guys know I mean three years 21 million to I'm in I'm all in signed me up but Monty Williams might not want to just chill he might want to go right back to work Sean's what's the market for him outside of Phoenix. Yeah I think he is going to take time like you just said Michelle he's going to take time with his decision after this firing I'm told he's fully focused on his family that's who his call was to first was to his family member family members about him losing his job but listen the Bucks will pursue Monty Williams from what I'm told pretty aggressively I think he's near or at the top of their list after they fired Mike Budenholzer they're going through their own interview process as well but if he's if he's ready to coach immediately I think he's going to be at the top of their list I think the Detroit Pissons will show level of interest Toronto Raptors the Pissons are going through their own search they just interviewed three finalists but if you have a guy like Monty Williams available if you have a guy like that if he wants to come and be on this upstart rebuilding young organization and have a blank slate you know four or five year contract potentially so I do think there will be significant interest in Monty Williams in the marketplace I love when this happens like musical chairs and then there's a new hot coach available so he jumps up to the top of the list and everyone moves down but let's look at the roster itself Eddie so Deandre Aten that's been just an up and down ride for him didn't seem to always have anything to do with the next I don't and it's not because I have any information but it's just team-building exercise this is the asset they can get the most for we don't even know what his value is at this point but they were willing to let him go last summer they've had issues with him before it's it's just leading down that road now it's if they can find a market for him what can you get for him with the roster with the way he flamed out in the playoffs as well it's not all a great sign I just think he won't be because this is the best move they have available to them to make I agree I think another thing as well you see on the bench a couple of times you see Deandre you know historically getting into it with some of the players and everything but like I said when you turn the corner and you know every team has anything anything's going to be wavy or murky so I think he might be in a position where he'll be somewhere where he'll be more happy as opposed to being there I think you get something in return two or three pieces for less money that might go hard and play harder for a bigger goal because clearly Deandre wants to have his own team it's just not it's just not the space with Kevin DeRent Devin Bucker and you know you can get into the coming position and be championship contenders that's the number one thing it's a position that's massive in that conference as well you're looking what the Warriors do with Kevon Lune and his Rebounding are you back in the day Clint Compella I mean just in Houston step up and set your role and it's like and then obviously you deal with your kids and then you deal with Anthony Davis the two they say did Jock Landale outplay our former number one overall pick in this series that we just lost and that's not great you know he's lucky Marvin Bagley got drafted number two in that draft because he's also the guy who was drafted ahead of Trey Young and Luca Dancic and now look a year into his second contract we're talking about is it going to be traded from the team that picked him number one overall still starting point guard I feel like I feel like he makes his own rules to be honest so when it comes down to whether I thought so or not he's starting and I think to his credit he knows a lot about basketball I mean he's a leader on a court he's a floor general and you know to a certain extent you know he's an intricate part of whatever team he's on so I just don't see it took like so for him to lose his starting spot I don't ever see that happening so or get a Tony Romo type type vibe can be somewhere where they let him start and they let him bring the ball up and do his CP stuff you know look we're talking about a guy who literally changed the CBA in a way to benefit him and make him more money he's going to go out his own way I don't know if it's in Phoenix or somewhere else I'm taking a quick break here when we come back the Lakers blew out the Warriors I will take a restroom break Eddie will take over the show is the dynasty over or is it just on pause when running back returns running back running back running back running back running back running back so this happened Lakers advancing to the western conference finals after beating the Warriors in six games nine AD 17 and 20 but Austin Reaves this is the world we live in Austin Reaves with 25 points it's like I have to believe and they're making me Evan I don't know what to do right now what did you learn about the Lakers in this series man I just learned it really tough man obviously if you give them a chance to get confidence and everything like that they're going to have a chance to beat some of the best teams comes down to AD how he stepped up Austin Reaves Dennis Schroeder I think this team is engaged together and they're looking to get to the finals yeah I think the key for me is Anthony Davis fully embracing the role he's in and he's this really weird star where he's probably not going to take the most shots probably not going to have the most points but he's going to absolutely anchor a defense that can win a championship he's going to hit the boards and it's absolutely transformed this team you can't get into the land against them he's able to pressure the warriors the vaunted warriors and they're at the three point line and give as many issues as he can look he can't guard Stefan Curry at half court but he can come off those screens he can defend he can get a hand up he can make it tough and he did that all series long he was the absolute key of the series and looking forward against the nuggets he's going to have and Austin Reeves being maybe the second most popular Laker of my life because I've been in the arena where he walks in and it's just like Kim Kardashian walks in it's like ooh but Austin Reeves walks in it's like what's happening he's the man out there and the fact that he started slow in that series and managed to step up later in that series it's actually huge for anybody who doesn't who thinks this is like Lynn Sanity the white boy version he's actually stepping up in big games and making big plays they're going to need him in the next series on both ends of the court and I think these guys are ready they look great Austin Reeves I don't know how many times I've said that during these play I just keep saying it like I've lost my mind Shoms the big question too will be and we're all sort of waiting to find out is how much money is Austin Reeves earning for himself during this post season the biggest worry the Lakers have I'm sure and the more this post season goes on the more Austin Reeves plays he's showing himself to be a top three top four option on this team and so the most the Lakers can offer outright is four years a bit over $50 million I think it's $53, $54 million that they can offer him and I think at this point that's got to be a lock the question is is there going to be a player option at the end but then if you're Austin Reeves what can you get out in the marketplace I think more and more teams around the league like that because he's not he's not old he's not super young either he's kind of that middle of the pack age range guy that can still he's still young enough career wise that can come in fit among your group be a veteran leader to an extent but still grow and devote with your group and I think there is a concern for sure if you've got the Lakers that he's going to get potentially an offer sheet you know way way higher that they're kill me wait okay so I mean we know we've heard his interviews we know how much he loves being a Laker but how much of it of the Austin Reeves show is because of where he is right now and how well he fits versus if he goes and makes a ton of money somewhere else and it's just not quite the same yeah I think he used to let him say anything once again to to that point you know it's way easier being a third a third option with 80 and LeBron you know right now I think one thing that Austin understands as well is you know he's killing as well because of the position he's in of course you want to go and you know have your own team everything like that but you have the way to pros and the cons and the understatement of not only playing with AD and LeBron but the notoriety you get from being in our like being a huge market like you can go to Orlando and go again right you understand saying that new shoe deals and everything that's coming along so I think if Austin could he should you know try to stay here and keep building what he can build you know it's tough right because he can be a $52 million Laker he can be an $85 million spur and why you gotta keep sending him San Antonio why are we doing this I didn't ask if he's just walking into the yeah he's gonna be the number one that's your lead guard walking into the building like that's when dudes rest imagine that summer I don't know imagine that summer yeah Victor Wemiama Austin Reeves don't jinx two superstars now in San Antonio superstars settle down what words are we saying right now I love Austin Reeves Austin I love you I've grown to love him superstars come on now he's a mega star by the way I'm with Evan though there is a lot to him being in LA yeah and there's a lot to be getting I don't know if it's a $30 million difference that he can gain out here but he has a signature sneaker he's all over the place right he wins a title with this team he's all like no joke I say superstars joke but he's another type of celebrity now if he wins a title with this team and has a great parade all this stuff that guy in LA he's a Kobe fan like he's been embraced by the city look and I'm not TMZ but Kim Kardashian three Lakers games in a row why nah I don't want to I don't even try to be an Austin why I'm just saying alright he could stay with $50 million I'd be like ask for a mansion and then no state tax and then and then that should be alright wait are you saying he's going to go to Texas then no no just I mean in regards to staying Cali it got $50 million or $80 million it's probably that's a big chunky hash difference that's a lot to ask he came up as a Laker fan he loves the Lakers you love you $30 million I don't love anything worth $30 million not even my own family I'm not no $30 million is a lot of money I'd play I'd play in Minnesota for $31 million I'd play in hell for $30 million I mean what are we talking about $30 million nah if he leaves Rock Island it's just going to be a different vibe a completely different energy it'll be a much different thing and you're going to see a different position where you go from being a third option or fourth option to drew how they starting on you the first night this is the easiest NBA definitely the other same same this is the easiest NBA basketball he's ever going to play yes next to LeBron and James Anthony Davis absolutely and he knows he absolutely knows it's going to be fun actually I can't believe I'm saying that but the Austin Reeves where is he going it's going to be kind of fun to watch Superstar I don't know what to do anymore losing my mind the Warriors also going to have some decisions to make there it is Shoms where is everybody going starts now what does this team do from here well the thing with the Warriors is when Dremont Green and the punch happened in preseason it was assumed that that was the beginning of the end for Dremont Green with the Warriors and the dynasty and this group as we know it was going to split but now we're the Warriors still believe in Steph Curry Clay Thompson Dremont Green and Dremont Green he's got a $27 million player option but from what I'm told the Warriors intend to engage in discussions on a multi-year deal with him whether that's via opt-in and extend whether that's opt-out in a new contract in free agency in July they want Dremont Green to be part of the next year two years three years potentially and Green will have multiple suitors so he's going to have some level of leverage if he enters the marketplace the other day he wants to retire with the Warriors we'll see if that happens but beyond that they've got a very very high tax bill lined up for this next season what do they do with Jordan Poole Jonathan Kominga Jonathan Kominga is a guy that number seven overall pick he showed he can play but he did not get much burn in the post season and I'm told if he doesn't have a role moving forward he could look for a new spot and potentially a new home as well all of that above all of that is Bob Meyers future is he going to be the one that's even going to make these decisions for the Warriors this summer we still don't know I think he's going to take some time I'm curious Evan from your perspective would you run this back with these three guys or would you begin the process even though Steph Curry is where he's at would you begin the process of tearing it down yeah I would run it back with these three guys I think and go back to a situation where you surround those three guys with veterans I think when you go back to the early success like Sean Livingston Andrea Goddalla Leandra Barbosa and you know Clay Steph and Dre Ma were younger that team was mostly comprised of veterans that understood a bigger picture I think you know a lot of the energy and a lot of words that you hear coming from that camp is the younger guys were upset that they didn't get as much playing times they wanted to and you know people were worried about where their future was going and everything like that but I think if you sit people around who don't have to worry so much about their future or contracts I mean you know Jordan Poole trying to you know carve out his niche as you know no longer a younger kid but like a big money guy a fellow so there's too many narratives you had to approach and number one narrative is winning and you know riding out Steph and his scores final years of their prime it's kind of a crazy it's crazy that we're here with this team given all that they've given and what they've done but the Jordan Poole thing I find interesting because he's the one that just signed the new deal and that's the one you know you talk to people about the Warriors and around the Warriors it's always been dueling timelines Steph Kirk's 35 years old Cremon game Clint Thompson they're 33 and then you have Jordan Poole who looks like the future of the franchise you have Jonathan Kamingo who you've drafted Moses Moody at the time you had James Weissman as well former number two overall pick so you have your future and your president at the same time and it never quite meshed guys we're not listening to the same music we're like these guys are married they have kids they're living entirely different lives and the young guys they're trying to get it they're trying to get there and they're trying to get that money they're trying to get to that place so it's always an uneasy balance and then when one of the old old heads punches one of the young guys oh right right you cannot overlook that when you talk about this season you cannot overlook that tension amongst the team all season long we watch Dreymon step on a guy's chest we watch he's going out with Dennis Schroeder and just the energy that Dreymon Green brings to that team if you're Jordan Pool you're sitting there like yo I'm sick of this dude so yes there's an uneasiness I personally am not so sure that you just sign up for this core going forward it has a very specific team they're long in the tooth Clay Thompson did not have a great playoffs Dreymon Green didn't have a great playoffs himself either and you're you're going to invest into three four more years of an undersized center who can't shoot who only offers so much an offense of a guard who isn't guarding like he used to he can still shoot on the right nights of course he's Clay Thompson but this is not it's this 40 million dollars of Clay Thompson that we're going to get every year there are tough questions to ask and they do need to settle that you got to talk to 30 and you got to ask him like do we go forward this I think he's going to say yes but there's going to be some words with that going forward you think he's going to say yes Steph is going to want his guys I can't imagine him saying no that's a tough that last series is just tough for some of the guys not cute you got to get at least one couple pieces he had to break the game seven record to get past game one series one so that's a tough question I think he's going to say goodbye to you but your spirit will live on in our next segment because you have been reporting about Mark Jackson and we are going to talk about that when we come back but thank you for today we'll see you tomorrow and we'll be right back Mark Jackson what year am I living in running back we love to talk about this yeah so here we go Shams Bucks interviewing former Golden State coach that's former look that was that was a long time ago he was a finalist for the King's job last year allegedly so Evan you like this idea no you're laughing no you just threw it to me right away I'm right there well that's how a show works Evan I was trying to get my thoughts together to be honest with you when you bring up the Warriors one thing that I'm not mad at if he does get an interview it's not terrible one thing that we have to thank his brothers he started the Warriors he started that hope not saying he did it himself but the confidence and energy trading off the rail right Montaela's historically he's starting to play times again his guys in there saying Steph Curry is the best shooter I got the best two shooters of all time he started training where we always have to appreciate it but you know it's a different it's a different time it's a different game I think you know they were still still wore suits back when he was coaching he was out too but still I'm a big I'm a big believer in just you know seeing if it will work out or what not you know Mark Jackson has a lot of basketball knowledge and when it comes to this situation like I said it's all about who's out there and we go to some of these situations with you know superstar players sometimes not so much about the X's and O's about how you you know you work with them and who they're willing to listen to especially after this situation that's big look I'm sure he doing that you know how to win you don't got to lose enjoy that Mark I get the competitive spirit but you get to sleep at night this job is probably going to somebody else let's be serious wow Shoms just got scooped by Eddie I love this so much take it a quick break we come back it's a really quick break and when we come back it's a really quick and then we're done so just stick around that's the worst tease I've ever said out loud great shit run it back run it back run it back J-Script Writers running back the entire bubble here it is in the East heat Celtics in the West Lakers Nuggets would this validate that bubble title for Los Angeles and yes it does need to be validated you can ask yourself I definitely think so when you talk to the guy regardless if this validates or not the guys in the bubble said if you won a championship that was tough because at end of the day it's the toughest part of staying focused and doing so if you won a championship in there it means having a bubble I've been getting cussed out about this circumstance for like a day straight on Twitter which is the norm for me that's good for you buddy which is the norm but they're not the same teams I think there's something like ten players amongst the four teams that are still there I know a lot of key parts are that's not bad though look I I always love to ask players because you cannot convince me that hooping in an empty gym no travel literally at Disneyland is harder than hooping game seven on the road twenty thousand screaming you tell them the back board is shaking when you shoot free throws and you just got off a six hour flight you can't convince me there's no way no you're absolutely right I think there are certain people on the bubble that reap the benefits of not having that type of pressure you're absolutely right I think because when it comes down to and I was saying I was great in pressure but like I never really thought of it like that but there's dudes that sit there and literally shake and a thirty point player in a bubble I'll say this they all had the same thing so nobody had an advantage per se but you if the crowd was screaming at me and I was an empty gym there's two different eddies in my mind oh no no no and I think that's where certain people say like alright bro like certain people are acting a fool in the bubble acting a fool love that that's going to do it for us on a Monday but we'll be back tomorrow and Wednesday ten eastern say that turn it up run it back