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I will call the August 20th 2018 select board meeting order and invite you to Rise and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all I'd like to welcome everyone to tonight's select board meeting and as always just remind you if you have Cell phone if you could put it to silent or turn it off that would be much appreciated just so it doesn't disturb the meeting So we're gonna go on to the next thing is agenda additions and changes and Greg No additions per se, but just want to draw to your attention the VOCT municipal policy packet This goes with item 5g it was sent to you a little bit late I think you should have received it today, and it should be online, but here's a Okay, but it was on it was online the right yes on the VLCT website Yeah, I believe so and also it's on our website now as well And then the thing from CVE was in our packet. It's just a hard copy right plus the ticket. Okay So we have that one item added Motion to amend the agenda to add the Item to 5g so much second Like any further discussion about many the agenda with that item Very none all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Okay. Most of us is four zero We're down one select man who is out of town. That's Elaine Sopcich. So we'll be Working with the four of us tonight Okay, we're on to public to be heard This is a time for the public to speak to the select board on topics that are not on tonight's agenda Is there anyone here wishing to speak during public to be heard? Okay, then we're going to move on to our first business item, which is 5a and Rick chief Rick Gary is here along to introduce the new captain Ron Huyg Is that close? Well, what's the proper? Well as as it used to be it was Huyg But when I after I moved to Florida I kind of changed the pronunciation to Hogue so either way is fine Which do you prefer Hogue is fine. Oh, okay. Yes. I want people to spell Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having us You have a memo in your in your packet from from Greg Thank you for the opportunity to come in and and introduce the captain We're excited as I think you've heard very excited to have him here. Yeah, I'm particularly excited for the help And Ron in the last three weeks has been a huge help for us Ron actually started with us back in the 90s as a patrol officer did eight years with us as in uniform Then transferred and went went down south down to Florida. We worked for the sheriff's office down there did nine years down there Transferred back and we almost stuck them back about ten years ago But he ended up in St. Albans where he's done ten years in St. Albans and made his way up through the ranks Being the second command up there as captain working for Chief Taylor who used to work for us So Ron has shown excellent leadership there good decision-making skills and he's going to be a fantastic Resource for so we want to make sure that you came in saw the face and see him Maybe once in a while filling in for me and helping out. So we're excited to have him I don't know if you have questions or if Ron has something anything that you want to know I'm here to answer any questions that you have and thank you very much for for Inviting me to come to the meeting and do this. I don't think I've ever Done this before in my career. I think this is a fantastic thing that you guys have are interested in having me introduce myself So like I select the chief said You know, I started in with Essex or at least I worked with Essex from 93 to 2000 when I went to Florida To find greener pastures and bigger things to do and had the you know The grandeur of more call volume and that type of thing which I got my fill of quickly And then you know while I was there I worked in the traffic unit down there. I became Very involved with the DUI Enforcement unit and with a sheriff's office the sheriff's office there had over 300 enforcement deputies and another 400 jail deputies So we were very it was a big department multitude of different divisions and such And then my wife and I decided to move back here. My wife. It's from Essex and we decided to move back here in 2008 and it was it was a good thing at the time I didn't think so because I certainly miss the weather But since I've been here, it's been it's been good for us and I'm glad to glad to be back My wife was very excited to know that I had the chance to come back and work for the town of Essex So being that her family still lives here. So Actually her dad is Dan Canty who lives up at the corner of 128 and weed road So you're probably familiar with that with that area. Yeah, so he's been there a long long time. So yeah So we'd like to say welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. It's good to be back. It's been been good So so is there any learning from your time in Florida that might be applicable to up here I know it's two different very different type of comments Well, believe it or not. I mean law enforcement is the same from you know from Florida to California to here It's it's all about, you know enforcing law But relation to citizens and that type of thing I would say the biggest thing that I learned in Florida was working in a large Organization and was able to be exposed to a lots of different types of crime major crimes on a on a monthly basis and You know having the opportunity to work in different units got got me able to see how, you know Larger agencies are run also gave me an appreciation for smaller agencies too because there's a lot of advantages To working in a in an agency like ours Where everyone knows each other So that's that's one of the good things that I've enjoyed coming back coming back here So Captain did you did your experience either when you were here or in Florida? Did you spend any particular amount of time in domestic abuse? Cases or anything along that line? Yes, I mean, you know, I mean over the over the years I've never been assigned directly to a domestic violence unit or anything like that But over the years, I've had a lot of training in different types of approaches to domestic violence I can tell you that in St. Albans my experience there That was one of the greatest crimes that we saw on a consistent basis, and I think that's the case In in Vermont throughout Vermont and throughout the nation, I think So to me that that is one of the areas that we have to take the most seriously and make strides in because there's There's just too much of that that's going on Yes Absolutely, thank you So as you can see chief Gary was quite Happy to be able to have somebody that he can now Hand some some workload over absolutely Maybe you could close in on what some of those key things are that are now The after our three-hour meeting on the very first day that I was here where he ran me through everything that that needed to be done I've been the last three weeks. I've been working on Updating a lot of the policies that the police department has I've been working on ordinances And that type of work Also working with some of the officers to get some of their you know, just directing them as to you know Where they want to go in their career? Where where the trouble areas are learning learning that again because some of the things have changed here in the town of Essex and Village? You know since I've been gone So just learning you know the trouble spots and where those need to need to be taken care of so That's that's been in you know, learning about the department itself and the different people that are there so Exactly exactly it's it's been busy the last the last three weeks have been good I've been I've had no time to stop at all. So it's been really good for me Thanks for that. Any other comments or questions? Yeah Okay If you could state your name Betsy, do you have a question or comment for the captain? For Essex and my question for you is how do you feel about restorative justice? And will you have a close working relationship with the community justice center? Yes, it's it's funny that you say that because the chief has kind of assigned me to oversee that that program and I'm very familiar with restorative justice and have worked on an on extensive and close level With the folks in St. Albans. They have a very active RJC there that we have done a lot of work with the police department and Cooperation with them. So I'm very familiar with it with how restorative justice works and the various programs and I'm really supportive of it Okay, there's no other questions again, we want to welcome you back. Well, thank you very thrilled to have you back Thank you. Thank you everyone for having me. I appreciate that. So thank you Thank you, thanks So we're going to move on to our next item of business which is 5b and that's to determine whether to hold the liquor hearing for backstage LLC who wants to kick that one off? I'll be So you the slick word issue day first-class liquor license for fact stage back in April But they had had some issues of concern from the police department through the state as well So the permit was issued in the condition that they come back in for a liquor hearing After making that decision. We found out the state was holding their own liquor board hearing that has since been held and Backstage was penalized with a seven-day suspension that was Appellate or took place in the beginning of this month in August and so after speaking to the police the manager's office they've had no incident since May when this came up and Both police and the manager's office are confident that the state punishment is sufficient And we don't believe they hearing is needed at this point We'll certainly continue to monitor them and see if any of their issues come up and the police are aware of that So if there are other things that come to attention, we can bring them back to you But at this point we do not feel a liquor hearing is necessary I just would like to suggest that because this is a special case because of the violations that had happened that Rather than waiting to the renewal for next year if violations do occur We could when it when you think it's ready We'd like to kind of know about those in advance rather than waiting to the the next year just to kind of keep our thumb on things So we've changed our practice and we are running Incidents reports quarterly on all first-class License holders, okay, so on a quarterly basis if we have an issue we'll be able to report back to you Okay, certainly if there is something that is of an urgent nature. We would bring that to the town manager's attention immediately Thank you, great. Thanks Entertain a motion then so that we can codify this Irene I would move that the select board not hold a liquor license hearing for backstage LLC Doing business as backstage due to the license suspension imposed by the state of Vermont. Do I have a second? Second, okay any further discussion about not Having a liquor license hearing for backstage LLC Okay, hearing none all those in favor signify by saying aye aye opposed. Okay motion passes for zero. Thank you Okay, more for the chief we have approval of resolution for Stephen Dunning and whose Wants to kick that one off Chief do you want to do it or are you asked to do it? Actually, I think you've got the resolution Yeah Officer Stephen Dunning had recently left the Essex police force and But it was after a long long time here. He was initially hired as a full-time officer in June of 2009 He actually started prior to that as a civilian bike patrol member in 2008 I won't read the whole resolution. Let's hit some of the highlights in his time here He was a rad instructor a police medical officer and town exposure control officer In April of 2015 here in the middle of Valor Which is the department's highest honor for risking his life to pull a citizen from a burning building to save her life And he has served Essex in the entire Vermont law enforcement community well over his tenure here in Essex So the chief has put together resolution that Hoping the select board will adopt and just my appreciation for an officer who spent a lot of time here and did a lot of good things here Thank you, and normally we have the clerk read But Well, I'll ask the board if they want it to be read for the record or we just sort of had a synopsis Okay, all right, then what's the board's pleasure on recognizing this Stephen Dunning for this resolution in appreciation Hey, buddy All right, I'll go all right So I move that the select board approve the resolution appreciation in appreciation of Stephen Dunning Sorry, okay, so any further discussion about Approving the resolution and appreciation of Stephen Dunning. All right I've taken the rad course which in case anyone doesn't know stands for rape aggression defense It's fabulous and the instructors Don't have it easy Very physically demanding I would say as a participant of the instructor So congratulations to him for doing that among many other things for us. Thank you Okay, any further discussion Andy. So the our our Clerk is not here, but the document is over there in that folder over there. So I'm assuming that we would we Just reminding us that we need to sign it since we don't have a clerk to ask us to do it Since I'm the past clerk, you know how that could happen Okay, so any other discussion? Okay, hearing none all those in favor of the resolution appreciation of Stephen Dunning signify by saying I I Posed okay motion passes for zero. Thank you. I think we're good. Thank you. Thank you again. And welcome Good luck, okay, we're on to next business item, which is 5d And that's the adoption of the recreation program budget and we'll invite director Ali vile up And maybe you can walk through some of the the highlights If you would one has to promise to give me one since she's not here. I could take care What's up? I'll take care You just want to Do you already have one I don't know the goodies in the goodie bag Elaine I'll take you to have all you have all Yeah President We knew she was smart so that's right So tonight is is just for me to kind of go over a little bit about our Program fund enterprise fund. It's called the couple different things wherever you go this started about eight or nine years ago Where that was taken out of the operating budget and it's that revolving fund for us to use throughout the Years and build up so that we can do bigger and better things our revenue grows So in general, you know, we through this program we employ Approximately 40 individuals within our general summer camp and extended school program fall soccer Programs throughout the year our overall number of seasonal employees is much larger than that, but that's just within programs And then we have approximately 150 unsung heroes There are our volunteers who we couldn't do the programs we do without them We have around 100 fall soccer coaches About 20 Chaperones for the Bolton after-school program 20 coaches for the lacrosse program and all of that and all of them range in price and we've battled over the years of how do we do more than just say thank you and Recognize each and every one of them and some of them are doing all of those roles I just mentioned and some are doing one throughout the year, which is a large commitment of time and energy So what we did is April was actually I think it's volunteer month volunteer appreciation month and It's hard to say a percentage or a dollar amount off of a registration when lacrosse could cost $120 and soccer cost 50 and you can get 10 bucks off And it doesn't really say thank you the same way Sam has been one of our coaches and so And and has volunteered her other time with us that way. So we did this we put together Little swag bag of charger because we don't always have the greatest reception and everyone's phones die When they're helping us out at the tree farm So we want to make sure that their phone can stay charged and then We got them some sunglasses that are pretty neat and we ended up getting a lime green color for all of our staff So that No matter what division you were in all the staff got some sunglasses as well So that was our thank you gift with a really fun little. Thank you personalized card for them So that's that's where that is and it's even customized as Essex Park. That's right I was with my predecessor this weekend. I brought him the staff color pair sunglasses For him to wear so it's very fun and it was just nice to have everybody come in out of the normal season of them helping and you know trying to You know Coax them into coaching again or whatever it may be But just having a good face-to-face Thank you and handshake with everybody and just being able to see them when it wasn't the first thing on their mind Or they may be dreaded signing up to help us So those are unsung heroes We do a ton with them and they do a ton for us. So it's truly appreciated But overall the program fund has provided us, you know the last couple years to Enhance program equipment and uniforms and things like that Outside of the the fiscal year boundaries that we sometimes have So this is a little funky because we're already into fiscal 19, but in fiscal 18 You know, we did there's a whole bunch on the memo that we did we Did expand some program offerings up at Sunset Studio, which is the fitness space that we rent And it's that we'll get to that too a little bit later, but you know We received a donation for the scholarship assistance fund that was in a large amount Which is nice and our requests for assistance continue to grow and grow We were able to provide some additional training opportunities for seasonal staff we have a new assistant program coordinator and that was really important for her to to get to know the staff differently and Enhance their their skills with the kids as well with the extended school program Overall we increased our seasonal offerings by 19 programs over the fiscal year We did our our thank-you gifts. We had a recreation software upgrade including a new splash page when you go on for online Registration that looks much more user-friendly It's easier to guide customers through that aspect Big thing that a couple big things we're really looking to do in this new fiscal year's kind of assess our program output We've gotten to the point where We have a lot of quantity and we're trying to provide the same quality to that level of programs and so we're really looking to still explore new opportunities and new offerings for people but really make sure that it's what the community desires and With the staff that I have making sure that Their capacities are That they're there and that they can really give all to the programs that we're offering so that it's not just Something listed in the book to make it look like we have more and that people actually want to do it and They bring in money and people are happy and there's large enrollment and things like that We also have to really examine the rental space at sunset studio or leases coming up it was the extended two years from the original and That's the big decline in our in our overall program budget when we first went into this endeavor It was highly recommended from management's perspective Just because we have new space to offer and aren't relying on the free school space Let's not increase program prices Well rent costs about rent and utilities costs almost twenty thousand dollars and without really raising that this is what happens So we're using the revenue that we've grown over the years, but we're not The studio is not paying for itself at all And that's that's really tricky and so with a lot of other alignment conversations happening We really need to Reassess how we program and how we price and how we utilize the space and I know that Maybe Dennis is coming in a little bit. No You're talking about the facility space assessment needs What's up? Hey, you're welcome. So instead of maybe paying Into a rental of space that isn't actually the towns It would be nice to get to that point where we have our own facility space that doesn't That isn't paying someone else necessarily that we can sustain on our own would be really nice So we need to do a lot with that You know, we still have we still started the new fiscal year with over seventy two thousand dollars In our program fund But that would only last us a couple more years if we continued to stay where we are and how we're doing things So I do know In my in my budget pages. I do have a comment from last year under travel. So I will get that fixed Because I decreased travel a little bit, but I I forgot to change my comment But if anyone has any questions, I'm happy to do my best to answer those Thanks for that rundown any questions or comments for I'll go first I guess I on the extended school program It's down significantly it's down 14.6 percent from FYE 2018 Could you just say what the significant changes are I read what you had and it wasn't particularly clear to me anyway As to what's going on there Um Yes, that's kind of wrapped into one at the are you on the budget pages? Yeah, I'm online 19 in the budget detail. Yep So what's really funky and how this program budget has often been Presented is it's kind of floated out there. It's either been presented to you all in February right after the regular operating stuff last year it was presented in early May and So those were still estimated numbers. I'm really at this point in the game. I'm going off of actual numbers Pretty close unaudited, but pretty close and so I think we are just One one thing is staffing we hired a new person with a higher skill set and We have certain staff And our increase in staff new staff is really just a turnover We had a lot of people graduate or who won't be available So we're figuring out how our ESP will work this year With the emotional discussion of transportation and getting staff to the schools to help us out. That'll be tricky and Yeah, she's gaining new staff, but it's not really an increase in the number of staff It's just the turnover and that's a big significant change because she has good experience after last year But she's gonna kind of be starting from scratch again in a different way But it's just the realistic aspect of we may not be able to provide things on the Tuesdays with the school changes and You know we we offer I Think ESP is really unique that it offers something Different than what parents working parents or any any parents or guardians that need care for their children But it's not licensed childcare and it's not Three to six or whatever it may be so it's really based on what we offer And when those are all available and for a while We've been doing the same thing and over the last year and a half or so We've seen our enrollment down. So we're really having to just come to switch gears and it's being more realistic ESP is extended school program and PNO is Parents night out. Yeah, so it's kind of date night from 5 30 to 9 and We provide pizza and fun and the movie and all of that and parents drop off and And they come pick up Right at the best time of night Have fun putting them to bed after Well, correct them Thanks, okay. Any other questions for Ali on the budget the program budget The other programs I know in the past youth lacrosse has been one of them is the Essex warriors wrestling also part of that or they aren't they haven't so lacrosse is wrapped in that We've been working with finance to kind of separate out certain line items Essex warriors hasn't come to us specifically of looking for financial assistance and We also don't just send a check to those who are in the budget So sometimes those organizations Haven't build us and we can sometimes give them a little reminder if they want the money they can Send us an invoice We get a Motion to adopt the fyi 2019 recreational program budget So moved Any further discussion about adopting the fyi 2019 recreation program budget Keep up the good work Yeah, this really presents a nice quality of life to our community. Yeah, it's great. Thank you Okay, all those in favor signify by saying aye. I pose. Okay motion passes for zero. Okay. Thank you for the swag We'll put that to good fun to get little shrink hits. Yeah, nice one. Trinkets and bubbles Okay, we're going to move on to our next item of business which is 5e disillusion of business liaison group Oh In because of the possibility that discussion about the town's relationship with my employer may come up during this discussion In order to avoid the potential for the appearance of a conflict of interest. I'm going to recuse myself for this Agenda item You need to I'm happy to have a year if you want but okay We'll come get you when we're done. Yeah All right Okay, great. You want to Sure. So the business liaison group formed several years ago 2015 at the time It had the vision to identify and respond to emerging opportunities for business startups growth In improvement and provide a personal face on behalf of the sx community The members will meet with the unified manager from time to time and supplement the ongoing efforts of the economic development commission After they formed the the group met three times as far as I could tell They haven't met since the fall of 2015. So just doing some Housekeeping and cleanup and seeing if they were still necessary. I reached out to the members of the group I heard back from three of them Irene being one of those members The responses are included in your packet, but it kind of ranged from There's no need to I would need to be convinced that there is a need. Um, so Based on that, uh, it doesn't seem like there's too much of a need Um And our recommendation is that you dissolve the business liaison group I think the idea was a good one to start but yeah, you think about it when a company needs a rapid response team Um, a lot of times they want to keep whatever it is pretty confidential and if you bring in This large group with public members and so on that's kind of hard to keep it confidential. So Um, yeah, so comments, but I think Irene we have your letter. So we kind of know where you stand right, um, I I I see no reason to continue it. Um, especially if the members feel as strongly as they do about the fact that It just really hasn't fulfilled its promise Okay, uh, and I'm in agreement that it's the right thing to do is to dissolve it so but to do that we need a motion I move that the select board dissolve the business liaison group Thank you, Mike. Do I have a second? Thank you, Irene. Any further discussion about dissolving the business liaison group? Are you hearing none? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye Opposed, okay motion passes three zero with one Epstene, yeah recusal, recusal, okay Welcome back Okay, now we've got Andy back. We're going to move on to business item, uh, five f and that's approval of requests for proposals for building needs analysis Okay, ellie teed me up perfectly. Um This is a real world example, uh, the program recreation department, um, has been using sunset studio for the past two years ellie three years two and a half years It was a chance to try to take a test out some some new space as a school space is becoming less available As you heard it's it does cost money to have that space up there. Um, that's what it wraps into Our idea for a broader building needs building facility needs analysis also working with public works, um, the fire department Uh, the public works department at this point We'll be looking with the village highway department as well to get a sense of space needs This was part of the capital budget that was approved earlier this year Um last fiscal year for this fiscal year There's 40 000 in the capital budget And the idea at this point is to take those, um, four departments recreation town fire, uh, and town and village highway public works, um Have somebody do a study to figure out exactly What are the needs for those departments and the now and going forward not looking yet at space or where to put it Or how to build it just what are the needs how much space is needed Um, Dennis has drafted up a RFP to go out. Um, he's he's not here today, but uh in the interest of keeping this moving along and trying to get some stuff Hopefully out, um sooner rather than later and start to get some responses to move forward That's why i'm bringing it to you tonight Um As part of that the project though and part of the rfp that Dennis put together he he's asking for an addendum To the rfp which would also wrap in village fire and village parks and recreation To us it makes sense to To do it all at once rather than doing part of it now and having to add to it later, so The preference would be to to get some responses that Can study all six of those departments? At one time The issue is just trying to make sure this gets out The capital budget is was to 40 000 for the four So not quite sure what the rfp will come back with those other two departments might Require us to come revisit the the select board and also the trustee to see that george is here tonight Um, potentially ask for some additional money, whether that's from fund balance or capital Potentially some of the village departments, so That is all to be determined, but Again just primarily in the interest of moving this forward Wanted to bring it to your attention tonight get some comments on it So we can take those tweak it it is still in draft form. It's pretty close to done But I wouldn't call it completely final. So if you do agree to move forward tonight Looking for authorization to let staff kind of finalize it and put it out there Okay, so this is an analysis of the the the building needs. It's not a You know come back recommendation. This is what you really need to to do, but it Tells you what the needs are and all for options or looking needs and in how much space so It's you know, we have enough vehicles right now that we can't put everything into one highway garage or the other But it's it you need Square footage and then we can go from there again analysis if you took a look at Our current fire stations you have x amount of trucks You have x amount of bays and you have x amount of equipment and what you but then you ask the chief Well, how you know, what do you look out in the next 20 or 30 years? What What do you need to operate that fire department in the next 20 or 30 years? How big of a training room do you need? Do you need a kitchen? Do you need a you know, what types of spaces do you need in the fire station of the next 20 years? With the rules and regulations parking for those firefighters Um, are you going to want sleeping rooms and if you do how many? Spaces would you need would they be individual rooms? Or do you do a bunk room type of thing? Just for all those things and and so You take that and you say, okay, you've got Couple pumpers couple trucks couple this you need this many bays You're going to need a building of this size with this many parking spaces and then you take it and look at the village Is it similar? Is it different and then if you combined them? What would you need? That's the kind of analysis and maybe a rough drawing Not anything that you could build on but a rough drawing of how much land That space would take Same thing in all the other departments so that you all have something to base decisions off of A rough date of it Okay Mike there were two things that I really liked about this amongst All of them that Dennis writes because he just he puts great He put great he puts great memos together. There were two things number one he was Specific enough and leading enough To talk about the possibility of a two-story. I think he referred to a two-story building For the for the fire department Um, and the other piece that I you know, he in other words, he's kind of steering them It I I think the more detail you can give in an rfp the better you're the better information You're going to get back so to have him kind of Steer the conversation. I think was was a really good move And then including the other departments as an addendum. I think was just do it now Just like you alluded to earlier do it all now And then the third thing was He made a reference to the fact of having whoever wins the rfp Come back with a recommendation on whether existing buildings can be added on to in other words Are they structurally sound enough to be able to do an addition on rather than a whole new building so I'm I'm all in favor of of letting Staff put a bow on this and get it out the door. I think Dennis did a really good job with it Including having the village fire and Mm-hmm. Yes those we have george here george you're on board with that No concerns So I assume My month my assumption is I'd be on board with that, but you know the one thing I would Stress at least if it's going to come to the village is that you you and this is by no means Egotistical, but I would stress that you probably want to besides department heads in those buildings You want to just come and talk to the trustees Not because we have some big insight about buildings, but we might be able to give A little bit background about where we see where we see the department going That might be some disparity there between where the department head sees the building going and we might want to Have that Come out In the report and be dealt within the report rather than have a report that the trustees get and go Wait a second that doesn't Jive with the thing that we had planned or what you were telling us earlier So I I would only stress that the other thing if you're going to do The village fire department in particular They have they have done they I know that they routinely do their own building assessments So that might that information might facilitate this and be available to you the consultant you hire So yeah, be on board with that. Okay. Thank you george Um And just one other thing as ellie mentioned, you know Not only does the rec department rent space But the police department rent space for restorative justice as well So some of the things we want to look at is Maybe we want to look at a facility That you know can reduce what we're paying somebody else And and use that same money to pay ourselves For the space that they're using and maybe even get Better space that has more functionality to it For what we do Do you have an estimate of what it might cost to include these other two village departments? We do not and that's why the RFP is is put out the way it is that we're looking for that price and We have a budget, but we don't know Yeah, because we we have 40 K in the capital budget specifically for this So we'd have to find whatever additional funds from from somewhere But seems like to be a complete package. It would make sense to include that so And then Seeing how it then structured you would have some choices To either do it all do some of it Do it in phases Okay, so will you come back then once you know what the final number is? Or probably not it's it's the I mean I suppose if it's going to be well beyond that 40,000 that we budgeted and we had to go to come to the select board to request additional money from all out from unallocated money in the capital fund or if we're looking for fund balance transfer, then yes, if it's Within that 40,000 or some some money that can come out of operating budget for many of these departments Probably not, but if the preference is to come back to the board no matter what we can I mean, it wouldn't be another 50% more right because it's not adding 50% more work to it it appears And I don't want to put anyone on the spot But I could swear that we had this as a line item in our budget this year There yeah I mean, I'm just I'm it's pertinent to the conversation you're having right now because I thought the village had put some money away The village should put in $10,000 for the Village highway garage So the town had put in $30,000 in the capital 40,000 total So you're right, but it's already accounted for Other questions or comments from the board, okay, what's the board's pleasure? I think it's some of these I moved mr. Chairman that the select board authorized staff to finalize and issue a request for proposals for a building needs analysis A friendly member. Do we want to include? Those two record of those two village departments as well in the motion Well, it's right now written as an addendum. Yeah, it's an addendum We can I can talk to Dennis and we can bring this to the trustees get their sense on it Which we would be looking to do at some point anyways then figure out if it makes sense to keep it as an addendum or to do it Um to revise the the rfp a little bit more Thank you Mike and Irene any further discussion On um authorizing the rfp for the building needs assessment Okay, hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Most passes for zero. Thank you all Thank you. Thanks for being here, George. Appreciate it Okay, we're going to move on to our next business item, which is 5g a point delegate for vlct annual meeting I'm just going to kick that one off I can take that one too So each year the vermont league of cities and towns held an annual meeting and they request that all members Which is I believe every town in vermont Send a voting delegate to the annual meeting other other members can certainly go but just one voting delegate Um this year it's going to be on october 3rd in south brillington and there's some a little bit of information about uh The meeting itself in addition to the annual meeting. There's also some other events conferences workshops that take place um As you got earlier today the draft municipal policy is here. This is what uh would be voted on and Um looking to you to see if you want to send a delegate Every year I've been a select board member It'd be nice if they could do track changes on these We passed that on last year if I remember correctly and I think we were told that They're putting it out. There's too many changes Yeah, what they they want you to read the whole policy not just the changes That's that's why they they they don't send out the track change, but they did say that they would provide it if requested We didn't get it this year Well, if we request it we probably will we should We didn't you have to request it each year. It's not a They're not gonna stand any request Every I would nominate andy to go unless somebody else wants to go instead or if andy doesn't want to go Well, I think there we might need to have an alternate. So yeah, I have a I have a concern because at this point I'm scheduled to be out of town that day Business travel frequently changes so it may it may move so I'm I'm I would be happy to do it if I'm available that day But as max I think was going toward We were we had some discussion before the meeting whether we should appoint an alternate in case I can't make it, right? Yeah We would like to be the altered it so one one comment I guess to make is it doesn't have to be a select board member It could be it could be staff too. I don't know Okay, but I'd like to offer to this select board first if either of you Would like to be the alternate in case andy can't make it that day as was October 1st October 3rd If I can find out what day of the week, so it's a Wednesday. It is a Wednesday Starts at 12 30 in the afternoon on Wednesday the third I I'd I'd be willing to be the alternate. Thank you sure Okay, sounds like we have a settle now. We just need a motion to make it so I mean I would move that we appoint Andy as Delegate and Mike as alternate for the VLCT annual business meeting on October 3rd Hey Gary, do I have a second? I'm checking. Okay Okay, thank you Mike any further discussion about appointing Andy as the primary and Mike as the alternate for the VLCT annual meeting on October 3rd Okay, hearing none all those in favor signifier saying aye. Aye. Aye post. Okay motion passes 4-0 I want to thank you both for stepping forward And Irene for offering that to Mike as well The form for it is over in that full It requires your signature Thanks for the reminder Okay, then we're going to move on to our next item, which is consent items Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? Thank you, Irene. Do I have a second? Second Okay, any questions about the check warrants which are in our Consent agenda for august 10th or august 17th Any questions or comments about the check warrants? Okay, well then hearing none All those in favor of the consent Agenda signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. I think motion passes 4-0. Thank you all We're all the way down to the reading file already any Questions or comments about what we have in our reading file again. This is fyi stuff. It's not to be actions taken tonight but Any questions? Um Is there a Do you want to speak to an item in our reading file? Okay, if you could state your name for the record, please And I wanted to speak about the open letter to support the University of Vermont Medical center nurses I am here to ask the select board to consider a resolution supporting a fair resolution to the ongoing negotiation with the nurses We have a lot of nurses in our community and they're important members of our community that sort of heal and And provide support to all of us And I as a Member of this community want to know that I have safe care that's being provided by people who are fairly compensated Betsy was actually here to also support me But she had to go unfortunately before we got to it Both in her role as representative and as a nurse as a former nurse Um And I'm also happy to gather more information if that would be useful. I think I sent an article Burlington has made a resolution to support a fair Resolving of these ongoing negotiations as well. So that's just what I wanted to Bring to you all today. Okay. So why don't we stick to that point for a moment? Um about that what number is it over here? That's a six g. Okay Um I I've thought I read that I thought about it. Um, yeah clear the hospital and the nurses do, you know, incredible job, but um, if the select board and the town was having an issue Their union and management I would not be too thrilled if some outside party came And tried to Get in the middle of it. So I'm putting myself in that same position here And uh saying that's really not I don't see it Not saying it's unimportant, but I don't see it as the select board's fight doesn't mean you couldn't do it individually, but I don't Particularly see it's our fight That's my I have to agree with that. Um, I I really think, um that the select board interjecting themselves, um Into labor negotiations is totally inappropriate. Um, even if it's just A resolution. I just don't feel that that would be appropriate at all So I guess what we should be doing says we're do we want to put this on a future agenda item? Or do we want to at this point say no? I would I would say no I would I would not support putting it on a future agenda item I think any resident of the town can ask us to put it on a future agenda And I don't think it's appropriate for us to say no it can't be on the agenda Well, we're but we're making a decision assuming that that's that that that they will Right you're we're I I'm I'm I'm not comfortable saying You know this this this was brought to our attention and I don't I I don't agree that that we should today Say no, we don't want to talk about this I think I I would I would like to allow an opportunity for those who brought the issue forward to request that it be Put on a future agenda I would agree with that No, um I guess we can put it on agenda Um and and let people talk to it if if we want to be fair and open um rather than just Say no at this point. So Um, did you want to comment on on this item as well? Okay, if you can say your name for the record too, right? I am a member of the community of Lyft here for 13 years as well as having been employed at the University of Vermont Medical Center For 13 years 11 years as the inpatient nursing recruiter in the past two years as a practice supervisor So I have an intimate knowledge of the long hard Sad summer it's been and I would ask that this not be a resolution There are a number of nurses in this community Hundreds of which I have hired personally or had a hand in hiring There's also a large number of practice supervisors leaders and managers and This resolution Made me sad as full of half Accuracies and I do not believe that it is the place of this group to insert themselves in our labor disputes that are going Out the organization the information here is not the full story I have spent more time crying this summer than I have in the previous 13 years combined through the sadness It's clear that there's a divide going on and a lack of trust My community telling me that I am the enemy of the nurses and I don't support nurses by passing this resolution There's nothing but deep in that divide Further and while I appreciate the the thought it is literally my full-time job to support nurses and doctors and administrative support professionals And this is not the support that I think The organization deserves So hearing that any change in bizarre any I'm still on a You know what's our policy for things getting on the agenda? Kind of the select board can ask for things on the agenda. Does it work with the public? So it depends on the issue and manager and select board This is a manager's agenda to put together But select board has the policy that the select board can ask for something to be on an agenda Okay, so I believe our our Policy that the select board has approved and signed that allows a provision for anyone to ask I may be wrong, but that's what I'm the way. I'm remembering it And it's a different time frame whereby an individual Not on the select board can ask but a select board member Think we even it says, you know four days before a published agenda kind of thing And I think from a from a resident it's a It's a slightly longer time frame, but I believe it's specifically stated in our policy that Anyone can ask I'm not saying it either way, you know for or against the resolution I'm just trying to be fair with regard to how we establish our our agendas I know we just adopted it back in April, but I don't remember the detail I I do not remember that line item. Um, that's not to say that it's not there. I just don't recall I need to double check. I know it's any select board member. Can I ask? I know any select board member Is any select been asking for it to be on the agenda tonight? No, so I would say we don't put it on the agenda I would ask that we review unless the pot unless the public asked specifically for it to be on the agenda Which I have not heard I've heard that either, but I also like to make sure we check our our policy. Thank you Anything else in the reading? Yeah, um, uh item H. It says vlct found town fair 2018 brochure. That's the brochure for exhibitors It's not the brochure for participants I don't know if you have gotten that yet because that that's happens in conjunction with the The annual meeting is on the third and the fourth um We'll double check if that was a mistake on our part or if that's the brochure that we have If there's another one, I'll bring it to you. Okay Okay, uh in uh item i with the invitations to the uh to the fair Um, they just need to know that it's elaine is now on the board not sue They have been notified of that. They have been okay. Super. Thanks for being on top of that okay And I guess in the same vein too with the downs raffle and martin if they can be notified that We have a new sheriff in town. You gotta have it instead of pat That'll be probably good for them to know too Anything else in reading pot? Okay, then we'll move on to executive session. I don't think we have any need for executive session Okay, I think we have a record going here. This could very well be Like I mean I remove to adjourn. Do we have a second? Second Like any further discussion about adjourning Are you none? All those in favor of adjourning signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye post. All right. We're done