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We got lots of cool stuff So we do we have a great guest tonight a guy that's been on every television and Animation production ever made Roger Rose you can hear about a very tiny fraction of it tonight just a little bit But anyway, plus we got tech stuff couple tech questions You know and if you have a tech question for us send it in in the chat room and I have a rant Oh, he has a rant And we'll change the acoustics in here to make sure that it it's fully understood coming up right now on voiceover body shop two men Twin sons from different mothers with a passion for voiceover recording technology And the desire to make recording easy for voice actors everywhere together in one place George Wittem the home studio engineer to the stars a virginia tech grad with an unmatched knowledge of all the latest gear and technology in voiceover today Dan Leonard the home studio master a voice actor with over 30 years experience in broadcasting and recording And a no holds barred myth-busting attitude for teaching you how easy it is together to bring you all the latest technology today's voiceover superstars And leading the discussion on how to make the most of your voiceover business This is voiceover body shop Voiceover body shop is brought to you by voiceover essentials dot com home of harlin hogan signature products Source elements makers of source connect source connect pro and source connect now Vio to go go dot com everything you need to become a successful voice artist voiceover extra your daily resource for vio success The vio dojo take your voiceover career all the way Jay michael collins demos went quality matters and by voice actor websites dot com Where your voice actor website shouldn't be a pain in the butt And now live from their super secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oates, California Here are george wittem and dan Leonard Hey, good evening. That's the audience I paid for all right I'm dan Leonard by the way. I'm george wittem and this is voiceover body shop or vio BS Wow, suddenly we're doing howdy-duty. It's apparently they take paypal. That's amazing. Everybody takes paypal It's some of the other weird ones that I can't figure out that one takes venmo. Okay That's the one I I want to learn how to use venmo, but paypal is fine. I got good Anyway, uh, roger roses our guest tonight. This guy's this guy is a star He's been on every show that my kids have ever watched in a pile that I've watched very nice So, uh, there's some some of my favorites like a few stories, you know like Billy and mandy one of us great stuff. Anyway, uh, he'll be with us a little bit later on And uh, we'll have lots of questions for him We also would love to get your tech questions So if you have a tech question for us jack daniel is sitting there right on the couch in our social media uh studio dan our dan operation center And uh, he will relay those tech questions to george and I and then later on you can ask questions of roger rose as well So that's going to be lots of fun. Anyway, right now it's time for That's the beyond bs Voice over extra news all the information you need for a successful voice over career So what's up in tech this week you have a rant of some sort I think this week's gonna be a bit of a rant. So this I'll stand back on sunday I took my daughter out to an event venue that's called glow zone glow zone is an indoor video game And activity laser tag all that roger's nodding his head. You know about this place a little bit a little bit um, this place is Well, maybe you should just play the video then explain So I think we have a video queued up that I shot of being inside this venue what it's like to be In glow zone. Can you play that back for us hat? Every five minutes they make some comment announcement And you have no idea what they say You got 20 points No, it's it's it's an absolute Assault on a census So That's you get an idea that is like moderate that's like when the place was starting to get busy Oh, cripes later on they started making announcements saying the commandez the commandez party of 28 Time to go eat your cake You know, but they would say it louder than that So they could be heard over the din of what you were just hearing so like even like Less intelligible than say like calling for a subway in new york They had huge pa speakers hung around the venue and if you were so unfortunate is to be near one Like crawling around on that huge Fluorescent thing that thing that was behind me was this huge fluorescent structure That you get to walk along and you get to do rope features and it looks like an obstacle course There was a speaker hanging up there if you were near that thing when they made an announcement It felt like it was going to knock you off the structure Anyway, why does that play so horrendously bad? It's because it has No, thank you friends. It has absolutely no Acoustical treatment of any kind Zilch I looked all around the place. It is a complete Hard top hard floor like an old warehouse type of thing It's like an old warehouse with just concrete drywall. Everything's hard in that place It is a nightmare So if anybody from glow zone happens to stumble on this clip that i'm going to take from the show and then Post on their social media so everybody sees this at glow zone Sees this clip Please I know how to help you with this So does this guy right next to me We need to help you make this venue a place that we as parents Want to go with our families and our kids because it is a nightmare I could not I was in there for an hour and a half and I had had enough and I'm sure your ears were ringing I'm pretty tolerant, but man the din was unbelievable But it was I that said that's my rant. It was actually pretty fun I'm sure it was great. Those games are always fun to play. There's the fun games. There's a laser Not only a laser tag room, but a laser dodging room where you have to crawl through Laser beams and not trip the laser and make an alarm go off Did I shoot you if it does or yeah, there was a lot of dead bodies in the room Yeah, no anyway If you go into a restaurant and the and the server has to kneel next to you Because that's the only way you're going to hear them ask you what that's a bad sign. That's bad So what is my point the point is is that Acoustics are important all the way across the board from the tiniest voiceover booth to the largest enclosed space And you really want to make sure that wherever you're forced to work forced to eat Live whatever it is get those acoustics dialed in make that place intelligible Tim tippets was just talking about that last week. Yeah, I was talking about when he worked for Chipotle That's right. That was one of his things that he took on right making the restaurants You know Intelligible so you can have a conversation Super important. It really is. Well, rogeros is coming up in just a little bit and we've got a couple of tech questions to deal with Uh, and if you've got any toss them in the chat room right now and jack will relay those to us And we'll be right back here on voiceover body shot You are watching v obs dot tv. 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All right All right So anyway, if you're wondering Why george and I come on here every week and tell you all this stuff about home voiceover studios Nobody on god's green earth knows more about the unique environment. That is a home voiceover studio Then he and I and we don't say that just to brag. We just happen to know that as a fact We've actually counted all the people we've worked with them. We're like nobody else's work I lost count around a thousand. Yeah, frankly, but this point. Yeah So you don't want to talk to somebody who's like An expert in one studio their own you want to talk to somebody who knows what they're talking about And if they want to get ahold of george, what do they do? Well, you panic and then you google george the tech dot com just type in george the tech dot com And that's where all my services are located I can be booked by the half hour the hour on site Remotely you can do offline services where you send the audio and I send you back The goodies related to the project. It's all over there and dan How to find you you can find me a number of places the best place is home voiceover studio dot com And uh, you can write to me at dan at dan lennard dot com with no woe. See there's no woe air It separates me from the rest of the lennards. Oh See That's what my father told me So, uh, if if you have some audio you want to have checked out I have a specimen collection cup at the bottom of my home page Just click on that. It's a dropbox. Send me an mp3 of your audio And we will give you an analysis of the audio and if it's really really bad We'll talk Anyway, what are our questions tonight? We have one from susan parker who asks Yes, I am about to embark full time in my on my voiceover career. Well, good luck After 25 plus years in the oil and gas industry in the uk and usa Okay, she knows something about gas. So maybe she'll have a chance. Yes. She says I am a scottish amer Scottish american and recently moved after 15 years from houston, texas to reinvent myself in beautiful Naples, florida, which is already lost. Can you take me through that journey? No, okay All right. Well now now you'll totally tune in here This is I am about to acoustically treat my booth and would very much appreciate your thoughts on this photos attached My thoughts were to use acoustic foam panels the closet is 62 square Inches with an eight foot ceiling it's square. Yeah All right, how do you treat it 62 inch square box, which is basically what you're talking about right squares are really tough because When you have a square floor plan have 90 degree angles There's and there's things called nodes or modes and that's when a sound resonates and bounces back and forth between the two parallel walls That happens at a very specific set of frequencies based on how far the walls are from each other Well, that's all well and good if if both sets of walls are exactly the same distance Whatever that node is whatever that thing is where it resonates. You'll hear it 200 hertz It's going to get really bad In one or two spots. Well, maybe several spots in that room So the first thing you have to figure out is where in that room? Is it going to sound okay? Because you have to work around those resonances Right and and usually when we go into somebody's you know room that they're trying to prepare I like to call it sniffing around You just go in the middle of the room and move along to different Corners and where would be the best place to set up a mic and where is it going to reverberate and You can hear the direction the node's coming from and then yeah, it's there Yeah, even once the room is acoustically tuned It's still going to be some spots that don't sound so hot and others that sound pretty darn good right So in small rooms are tough to tune and get them to sound real good because There's not a lot of room for the sound to breathe and kind of escape and resin It just wants to echo back at you no matter what you do So foam she wants to use foam but not bed foam great for preventing bed sores, but really bad for absorbing sound Uh, you want to be using something like auralax or ats panels or building your own from rock soul and you know And we have all sorts of videos on doing that as well She also was underneath a couple of shelves and they weren't wire shelves. They were I think they were wood shelves Okay, you know some people will say They'll send me my uh their audio and I'll listen. I go are you under a shelf? Yeah, yeah Why is that? Because it sounds like you're under a shelf actually. Yeah Let's I don't I don't have an extra shelf that doesn't isn't covered in thousands of dollars with the microphones But if we were to lift this shelf over your head Yes, do we are we gonna do this we can do that here good. Okay. All right. Do you hear what it sounds like when you're under a shelf? That's what it's not Just pretend you know that we can see them all nodding Anyway, so so get out from under the shelf All right, Roger Oh get out from under the shelf and if you're gonna use foam You need a lot of it and it needs to be thick the standard two inch thick foam Is not generally adequate enough to absorb the whole frequency range of the voice Right, it will do really good to to a certain degree and then after that it just lets sound bounce around So if you're gonna use foam have at least some four inch foam as well on the ceiling and on some of the walls Right, but the the stuff from ats the rock soul or the fiber stuff stuff made out of cotton, right heavy moving blankets That kind of stuff is really effective and you get a lot more bang for the buck out of that. I think right in the foam Yeah Okay question from fred north Thunderbolt 3 and usb 3 is this something we need to start migrating toward boy It's funny you mentioned this fred because on the way over here I was trying to think of a good topic and this is something I had thought about was Maybe we hadn't really talked about this stuff in a while So thunder. Oh, I have another question. So I won't I won't drone on for too long on this one Okay, but it because it's easy to do Dan happens to have a product here that has numerous little specs printed on the box that Confuses the layman and even someone that's looked at these things. I had I still don't understand it and go What are they talking about when they say it has a usb a usb c and pd 2.0 ports on it So let's just start with this one thing This one thing is a usb hub and you guys are all familiar with those But this one plugs in with usb c usb c Is the new fangled usb jack that's on all of the newest max right the new i max the mac book pro the mac book Not the air yet, but the mac book just the mac book they all have usb c you're seeing it on some pcs You're seeing it on some android phones This breaks out to anything you pretty much one you can have usb Regular usb jacks. Those are the usb a jacks. We're all familiar with that's what you can plug hard drives into and memory card readers and all that kind of stuff but this thing also has a usb Type c port as well as the plug that plugs into the computer So that not only can you use it to plug a usb drive in? But the pd signifies that it works upstream or per charge upstream charging And we figured out right before the show what the heck that means upstream chart upstream charging means you can plug a powerful usb charger into the hub And it will charge whatever is plugged into the hub Whatever computers plugged into the hub So these things not only can charge a Cell phone or an ipad they can charge the entire computer if it has a usbc port Right, so that's part of the story that covers the usbc stuff Yeah, now i've i've had clients and they're like i just bought a new mac and they try to plug a regular usb You know interface into it. I'm like Sort of like the verne lundquist dongle Actually jack's got a macbook pro over there and it it literally has just four usbc Ports on it that you'll see around they make there's they make custom buses for those though That just plug in into those two. Yeah, there's docks and breakout stations and all that however, there's more to the story Like the usbc Is it just usb? It's also in a mac thunderbolt And it's not thunderbolt one. It's not thunderbolt two. It's thunderbolt three So do you need to have support for all this stuff? No, not for voiceover. You really don't this stuff is all for extreme high speed data transfer Doing video production all that kind of stuff right generally usb two is fine for most of us Thunderbolt if you have a device that uses it fine Don't go add your way upgrading all the stuff that you have just to have thunderbolt You really don't need it most of us don't need it and thunderbolt three particularly is so new There's so little knowledge about it and so little gear that supports it It's really two bleeding edge right now So it's not worth it to go there quite yet. Check back in the fall fall. Maybe you have a new story about that Simple one from dave smith. Good. Thank you Uh, it says a friend told me he had a noise floor of over minus 80 db or under minus 80. Hopefully hopefully under Yeah, over mine. Okay. Well, whatever. Yes minus six minus 60 db I thought that anything minus 55 or over was acceptable. What is the minimum noise floor? What's the over or under? What's your victor back? Yeah, I know Anyway, you and I we're on a committee where we decided what is the standard Noise floor that we should go for and I think as a as a committee You and I and uncle roy and cliff zelman and a bunch of other guys jordan reynolds jordan reynolds We said minus 55 is probably the best Anything more than that Trying to filter the noise out. It's gonna show up Yeah, the over and under thing can be a little confusing. Right. So dave is talking about over minus 55 It means we really mean under minus 55. So as you go up in negative numbers, they look larger But they're actually lower. Right. So Minus 60 is better than it's actually 55. That's actually really really good. Somebody who's at minus 80 is lying Yeah, I have to say they probably are because I know the best studios in town that have spent Literally millions of dollars trying to get even close to that kind of a number and it's not possible So when you when your friend says they have minus 80 I would like for them to prove it and how would they prove it? Send a sample of their audio of their voice with the room tone afterward and send it to us We'll tell you if it really is mine. It's not processing. No processing. No expanders. No noise reduction Not gonna happen if you if you have minus 65 or even minus 70 in your home studio That's exceptional. You probably live In the middle of nowhere not in an apartment. You're probably in a basement Somewhere that's that's very hard numbers to get in the bottom of some sack base somewhere You know at the bottom of a silo Maybe then or maybe in wyoming or wyoming in the middle of the field Don't trip over the uh, the prairie dog holes Exactly One more question from effort and gonzalez. This one might take a little while So why don't we save this for the last segment of our show? Talking a little bit about ISDN and iptital and those sorts. Oh, yeah Let's let's do that after that way roger is able to leave sometime today. Right. He'd probably appreciate that He probably would all right. Well saying that why don't we take a break and when we come back We'll have roger rose right here on voiceover body shop Are you confused about how to set up and maintain a professional quality voiceover studio? No wonder the information out there is mostly mythology This is the best microphone to use. You'll have to have a preamp. 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Yeah, okay His voice is also very apparent in trailers and voluminous amounts of video games Just to name a few let's welcome roger rose to voiceover body show. Thank you What a pleasure to have you on I'm just playing george as a child in a tv movie. That's all I I'm doing Yeah, I know what his childhood was like. So you're in for some some, you know, lots of loud noise Um Now you have one of the best IMDb's I have ever seen. Oh really? It just goes on and on and on and on. I mean tv you've been in series on you know sitcoms and a lot of really successful animated features and And movies and stuff like that. How does one Lead themselves there give us a little bit of quick background drugs That's what I was suspecting alcohol I just before we get to that, uh, you know, what's this like that, uh broadcast news thing Look george's hand You know, it's like the broadcast news that was scary. That was a good movie. Um, you know, do you sit like this? Or is it more Like this, you know, what's the more cash thing You're not giving me an answer on this one because I I'm always moving around anyway Oh, I see. Okay. I just wondered if it was, you know, that this way it starts coming This isn't like the actor studio. Oh, James Lipton going Oh, there's a studio. Yeah, uh, well, you're asking what you're asking How does one get in the business? How did you roger rose get into the business? Well, it all started in a log cabin. No, um, you know, I did a tv show with ted night Really if you are old enough to remember ted night, he was on the mary tyler moore show You know, I think I remember that one, you know, mary And I did a show called too close for comfort. Oh, yes, and I played don't get too excited jim j bullock's best friend and uh So I was already doing voiceover and and so ted night said I understand you do an impression of me Yes, sir, well go ahead and do it And I went okay. Hello, mary. Hello. He goes, that's not bad But what happens is people don't do impressions. They like to Do them for you. Right. And so he said I do some Like, okay, he goes, this is john wane. Hey there cowboy Oh, that's good. That's good. Yeah, he goes. Now jimmy steward. Well, well, well, I'm like, I don't know What do you know? I'm on his show. I don't know where I went there. Anyway, so I've voiceover was always my thing I always wanted to be a voiceover guy my parents My father was a talk show host and here in california My mom was on npr in chicago and she was also a radio actress So I was around voiceover studios my whole life. So I always knew it and uh, I just I I did the on camera stuff hosted tv shows things of that sort But I always kept voiceover and I actually did uh, I hosted a show on the original msnbc called america's talking And uh, in my contract, they wouldn't let me do anything else because it was on an nbc network Except for voiceover. They're like You could do that little boy right and I had this huge contract which was uh, uh, You know ironclad and everything except for voiceover and so I would do my live show But then I go during the day to studios and Okay, you can stop George just came in. Yeah Ladies and gentlemen George with him. There's his ass. Oh, that was nice. All right. Yeah By the way for your engineering needs George is your man Okay, anyway, I knew there was no way I could not be on camera George is the best. He saved my butt eight million ways to sunday. Uh, he does when when you're ready to talk about that I will tell you about my lovely remotes excellent and my lovely daughter Manny is here and she knows that she's never had a vacation because it's always wait a second I'll just be here with a thing on my head and the ISD and okay. Anyway, go on. Yeah So, how did you get into all of this stuff? What stuff the stuff all the acting and the voice you you were in voiceover But you've had all these roles. Oh, yeah, yeah, I um Um, I you know, this is a part of the voiceover thing. You gotta just it's really weird. I set my goals Uh high but I didn't set them high enough I said if I could only be in a commercial if I could only be on a tv show If I can only be in a movie and then all of a sudden I was in all those things Right if I can only do a promo on a network tv show if I can only do And I would do a promo but it'd be like one that's in the middle of the night Right. I don't want it. It was me and a duck. They paid me five dollars. It was an evening Right. So I said if I can only star in a movie I can only star in a tv show If I can only have uh be the the main voice of a network and everything like that And I got all that but I shouldn't have said if the movie needed to be a massive hit like black panther, you know Black voiceover. Yeah, whatever. Uh, but that wouldn't be me anyway. And uh, so all the shows I do went But luckily I got to do uh Voice over for a network and that I did a couple networks But you know one particular network, but you got to aim high you got to keep doing it and uh If I may tell a story that's why you're here. Oh, thank you Um This sort of interacts with voice over and everything else So when I first started in voiceover, I was the voice for monster movies I was the death of every cheapo movie you could ever think of a roger Corman and empire. Uh, there's a movie called the reanimator and re reanimator two I am every male monster voice in that movie and pat music as every female voice and they pay us Nothing to come in there and go Like there's there's a guy with an elevator with rips his arm off No, that's the and there's a really horrifying scene where I um Where a headless man My daughter's in the room goes down on a woman And and I had to like go Anyway, uh, oh it was there And then pat pat had to make the noises and we still left So that's such a print not you're well trained for doing video games So then they started the the sound engineers started knowing that I could do all these different deaths And I there would be these horrible romanian movies where eight guys would be shooting at each other and killing themselves And I was all eight guys, you know But you learned this is how you learn you learn on the job And I learned so many cool things and they you know gave me a dollar and a kick in the pants I said, you know, thanks for coming. So one one day Uh, I got called to do Friday the 13th part six not five five not seven Six and this one was way different. He was in the forest and he was killing people teens So anyway, I was way different. It was long Anyway, so I said to the director I says because I'm doing every Male death and that thing my favorite one was where they squeezed the guy's head And his brain pops out Anyway, see the thing is subtlety. Yeah, because you don't want to go With the brain. No, the brain's gonna pop out of your head. It's just Anyway, so, uh, by the way, my daughter's over there doing this Another story dad, great. Um, anyway, so Uh, so what was it? Oh, yes. So that I said to the director as we're doing the voice I said, you know, I always wanted to die brutally in a movie So he said, okay, I swear. I'm not making this up phone rings And it's paramount pictures and they said you don't have enough deaths in your movie So I need you to add two deaths and shoot in griffith park this weekend So he hangs with the phone. He said, I always wanted to do this kid. I want you in my movie That was because of voiceover and I did something completely different that I've never done before those movies ever did before I was doing the deed with some girl in the forest at 4 a.m. And then he kills us He's shish kebabs us I think I saw that one. Yeah, all right. It's totally different than the other and uh, That's another story altogether But then as a result of that Uh, and there's a whole story with it. I then out of nowhere get an audition for vh1 And I get to tell my audition story about jason and killing me and all that and I got vh1 So voiceover has been very very good to me. Yeah, well, it's it's led you down the long corridor And I always lots of doorways always kept it and when a door opens and an opportunity comes I fall through it You gotta go on you gotta deliver and apparently you deliver that is that's the old line Which is very true, uh, which is one of the things I you and I had talked about before Uh, you weren't present for it, but if you had been you would have fascinated But I'm not gonna talk about it because this was before and by the way sav will clean that up. Um no, uh that The once you're in the door behind the microphone fixing doing whatever you're doing in this business Then you better know what you're doing but to get in that door To to and I'm I'm talking in the way you and widows will do your stuff or anyone else It's who you know luck making the circumstances happen for you Getting in the door and all that it's not member fd. I see that's you've already gotten in the door So it is creating The thing and and one of the things I have to say about voiceover anytime you want to jump in I'm just like, you know You have a nap here. You're the star tonight. I'm just the host Uh, well that's well in that case. Please sing Like Mike Douglas Then I'll be john lennon. All right We both saw that one. I'll be yoko. Yeah, that's right. That was a great week on the mike Yeah, it was We're about the same age. Obviously we were watching the same stuff the best actually the best job I had for voiceover on camera and my entire career was page at cbs Really? I got Everything in my career to this day Was based on that job because when you wear the little red coat, they'll let you in anywhere Yeah, and I sit comms were being made as a matter of fact if you watch the opening of threes company My very first job. Wow. I was a page at cbs. I was 18 years old and a guy said, hey, what are you doing this weekend? Because you want to make a thousand dollars I'm thinking this is hollywood. This is gonna be bad. Uh, no, and it was me and uh don knots and it's the It's the opening on the beach right and I'm what you think is a girl in a bumper car that larry the neighbor Oh, it was it's me. I'm 18. They put a wig and a mustache on me Yes, and that was being a page at cbs and I did a million other shows and met so many people in voiceover and on camera and That's an example of paying me like 10 bucks an hour, but I took advantage of it and I got to meet That's like at cbs over on fairfax television city in hollywood. Yes, and then the irony of ironies This is where you get brought down to earth. Uh, there was a period where Uh, at the very end of bob barker, he was looking for a new announcer because rod roddy had passed away And i'm wrong for that one because they really want a guy that was going to open up come on down Yeah, they want and it's and it's the toughest voiceover job. I think I've ever done where it's one hour No mistakes. You are not as the voiceover got no mistakes like a 30 page script You get one rehearsal and then they are pissed if you screw up It's a new car and all that anyway Uh, so I did a week on it and and I did the warm-up of the audience and there was the page in the back Like 15 years before that was me. Yeah, and he's there in the back and I go, you know, and I'm saying this to the audience That was me and one day that could be you and the guy's like Yeah, yeah, right who cares he could care less. He didn't want to know about it. I was so bummed So anyway, if you're wondering who we're talking to uh, it's uh, It's roger rose has been in just about everything that's ever been feeling If you've got a question for him Oh my god, it's growing out of it If you've got a question for him throw it in the chat room inject Daniel will pass it on to us and then he will be glad to answer anything Anyway, not a thing. Alrighty um You work with Rosie O'Donnell on vh1. Yes Uh, I think you have to follow the show business acumen of never if you have nothing nice to say about somebody say it Yeah, and in her case. Thank you. I appreciate that. I really don't like talking Uh about people and if I've had bad experiences But she was so mean to the people and she knows it. She knows it and there's a we were on vh1 together We started out together On that and she was so not nice to me and to all the other people but 10 years later. She's doing her talk show And i'm in a restaurant and there's a tap on my shoulder and uh, Somebody comes in and it's no uh, and uh, she said listen. I don't know what was wrong with me then Please forgive me. She shook my hand. She introduced me to this woman named sendy. Oh, hello. I'm scared the crap out of me and so So I thought you know what? She's really cool And then a friend of mine was interviewing her for entertainment weekly following that week and he goes she didn't mean that and uh Can I swear? I can't swear. We don't give a shit really. Oh, okay. You don't give a shit So she's so he interviewed her and he said let's go back to the vh1 days And uh, what about roger rose and she said ah that guy's a f So you probably deserve that maybe I did yeah, maybe I did You could see I let things go right no no in this case I wanted to because it was just you know, but vh1 was the greatest so much fun 30 uh, you know seven days a week 20 breaks a show was unbelievable So you just go and tape the breaks and you write everything you produce it all it was It was gorilla tv we got to do whatever we wanted traveled all around the world right uh And at the same time I was the voice of showtime Wow, and that paid me more than vh1 paid me Wow, and so I would go and this is great voiceover story I would go and they paid you by the hour and they paid huge And so I'm taping tv shows everything so I go to this place over on 57th in new york And they pay you by the hour so if it was like 901 you got another hour's pay and it was you know So tonight on showtime and there's another example. They wanted a uh a comedian chevy chase meets blah blah blah You know walking in they're never gonna want that So you go in and you're funny in the room and then when you go behind the microphone you go tonight You know you know and do that whole routine right so anyway the guy that was the producer was going through a horrifying divorce And I would sit there. I'd get there at nine He would go i'm on the phone with my uh divorce attorney. Just give me a couple minutes and I go I just sit there read a magazine about 1001 he go Give me a little more time. I gotta talk to my wife And I would make so much money because he was going through this awful divorce Anyway It did that show base kid That's the way it works Uh now you've done you've done a lot of series. What's it like to really work on a on a on a on a sitcom Is uh because that's sometimes it's a live audience. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best everything you hear Uh, I did Seinfeld and that is everything and rose you're done. Okay. No, uh The nicest people what you'd hope it was at the zenith of that show And every last one of them except nobody gave me any direction and I would say to the director Well, what am I supposed to do and he goes just do what you did in the audition and I had lived in the audition. I'm like And then I'm sitting there and Surprisingly enough mariska hargaday was in the episode I was in mariska. Yes, you know And she's they were telling her stuff and I'm like, oh, I'm dead. They're gonna can me And then Seinfeld walked by me one day. I went very hilarious and I went, oh, I get it if you they don't say And it was so great. It was so much fun. And in the audience you get to you know Three camera and then just one camera stuff is it's all what but you gotta be wanting our job is to look for a job That's what we do, right? The job is the fun part. So like if you're on a set that's 12 14 hour days. I love it I love it, but you have to love it. It's like stand-up comedy if you love Doing it. You'll put up with all the drunks and well, you know, like you and Yeah, so In in and it's it's acting but voice acting is acting and in trying to get work I think what I hear you saying is is you had lived the audition A lot of people just read the script as it is, but that's not what they're looking for They're looking for the original thought. How do you get yourself into? All right, I see this a different way and just go with it Well, I mean, there's the technical and the professional Side and the technical side is you know, you guys And there's a big mistake everyone makes just because they know there's a big technical audience here and george taught me this He did he did. Yeah, he said The lady's like it when oh no, the other thing george taught me That we know he was lying He told me he loved me When you're auditioning It's you'd give them one they want and give them one that you want but You don't need some amazing studio You you need a towel on your head. You need you don't want to sound like you're at a bus depot That's stupid unless you're doing a spot. That's an Yeah, you need a microphone that You know, like what's the uh, the one the ones you always tell me is the 416 No, the 416 is a thousand dollars. I'm saying if you have no money and you're starting out the uh, what's the the lizard the Lizard which one are you talking about? You know the one that's the uh usb the Some people uh use the yeti the yeti yeti one. They're okay. It's for an audition. It's not for a job The apogee mic we like that. Yeah. Yeah one of you know a hundred bucks a towel and uh, and you know and a special weekend of oh, I'm sorry. I'm going back to the voiceover. So that's as far as the audition is concerned but The other thing that I like to talk about because everyone will talk about The technique of voiceover and all that kind of stuff is that People forget that back to what we were talking about or what I was talking about and you're just going It is um It's 51 talent and it's 49 business and the mistake that I feel most people make and where I've seen people's careers go Is it's who you know who you How you treat them what goes on because our job is to solve a headache Our job making someone else's life easier. That's right. And people always think well if I'm good Well, yes, that's obvious, but that's the job. That's we got a town full of people like yeah, exactly And eager to please that's fine, but you know, I can do this They don't want to hear that they want to hear I got this not I can do this right uh and People mistake they don't look at the other side of the microphone. They don't look at the talent They don't look at the the other talent. They don't look at the uh producer the writer They're what their worry is about is an actor of commercials anything It's huge and I don't I never hear any other voiceover people say this stuff and probably because I'm wrong Uh, no apparently according to your IMDb apparently not no, I don't know but it's it's like it's just it's really interesting I had a gig not too long ago Uh over at LA studios in los angeles not L. I'm sorry. It was uh, uh, lime and lime You know, they have great food and candy and they said can we get you a lovely Latte and you know, you're like, well, this is life itself. It's great I I've actually learned that you've arrived in hollywood when you get craft service, right? That's I live for that I do too, but let's remember That place is $800 an hour, right, right I ain't getting that $800 Most of the people in that room who are the talent are not getting that $800 So you got to be realistic about yourself and say, okay, these guys are spending Top dollar on this they're spending top dollar on that when it comes to you. They don't care It's scale and get out. So you're you're not You know, you think you don't fool yourself Just solve their headache and get the heck out of there. So what was really interesting, uh, I've you know, you always think I've seen everything I go in there and there's a woman in there and I literally am It's for a drugstore and I'm literally am the you know, uh, you know Side effects may be bleeding and death if your brain explodes. I was wondering who was doing Yeah, it was like one of those things and she was like, oh, I go to my drugstore and that was In the room in the in the studio not not the control room, but in the studio She had made it her apartment. I've never seen this in my career. I mean that her makeup's out there. She has coats. There's like a blanket. There's What the heck And so I they said she was moving in. Yeah, I've never seen that, you know incense lighting, you know, there was a dead body Uh, you know, uh, jimmy hofford came out. It was it was crazy in there. It was crazy It was like rages was there. It was wonderful. Anyway, so, um, my daughter's doing this again again, dad So i'll up your allowance. It's all right. Anyway, so so I I said the guy the producers say Uh, she starts talking about her life In between takes and I see the producers going. Oh great. We're hearing about our time in seattle and I'm the one Whoa, man, this is I just I you know, no one wants to know about your personal life Nobody and I just saw her making every mistake and apparently she was good in the read But she just wouldn't shut up and whatever so they said can he come in for five minutes? It's just a quick tap So I run in I go number of d.i.c. Chicago 606 or nine blablabla was one of those sweet gigs Yeah, I was in and out of there in five minutes. I said, thank you I had a cookie and I was gone and I asked for everybody's name make sure thank you Can I if you need me again? Blablabla, but I'm out right well my agent calls me like 20 minutes later And he tells me that she was also represented by him and she said oh, they hated that guy He caused so many problems and I'm like What? you know and sure enough she got canned and It was a great lesson to me because number one I was very aware of what was going on in that room to I thought This woman's embarrassing and I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut but in the end she Is such a nut bag. She's sitting there complaining about me and of course I thought I can't believe what did I do what did I do? But I'm just saying it's the business of voice over that people forget about right Let's let's talk a little bit about no about agents. What agents where? Agents ask me again. Okay. Let's talk about agents I love doing that all right And I can see they're coming a million miles away. I'm sorry. I know. I apologize all over the place. It's like Let me try that off for you. Yeah Yeah, I a lot of people a lot of people in our audience perhaps don't have an agent They all want an agent. Yeah, but finding voiceover work is It is yeah, I'm and I know a lot of people in voiceover who are drooling. Yeah, um, but yeah, and What a great gig that could be. Yeah, um, but Is it absolutely essential to have an agent to really make a living at this business? Well, I think you know the answer to that What do you think? It depends Yes, I am wearing depends that's part of getting the uh, no I mean, you know part of the answer this song before I even say anything Right. Well, if you want to reach the heights and you want to get higher paying work It always helps to have an agent right but the majority of work You're gonna find is the stuff that you beat the bushes for yourself and the That again, that's back to relationships and then then those websites that pay you did Lee did Lee Uh, I have a friend who Is an a non-union fellow and he Got a job that was a commercial for this last Super Bowl. They offered him $1,200 Whoa Now I don't know mostly they pay like a hundred or whatever, but they offered him $1,200 and was a product We all know that usually would be on the Super Bowl Right, and they even told them it's gonna be on the Super Bowl and we know what they were paying Just to put the spot on right once right and the thing is truth of matter is if you did scale and air once you'd make 600 bucks, so it wouldn't it's not like but they said they were gonna air this up for the year And I mean this is where the difference is but I also understand there's people there who want to make $1,200. I get it Uh, but agent wise it's it I'm this is me personally not that's what I have a problem No, I just have a problem. I don't it's nothing about voiceover. I just I have a problem. Okay, uh, no, uh, I have a problem She's my daughter again. She's just like Nails done anyway. Um, yeah, yeah I just love to talk about off camera. Um I you never should I say this I say this to you Do not spend a dime to get representation Until you've made a couple of voice tapes until you've gone to classes And you need to go to a class. That's not somebody who's gonna tell you what a great business Yeah, I mean like as an example here in los angeles. There's uh, uh, I'll give you a great example is, um A voice caster in kelmanson. I mentioned them because they're casting directors right and their Uh teachers so they're a one-stop shop. That's a business thing you go see them They start to recognize you maybe there's some little special project They'll think about but you're also doing it with five other people who are really basically trying to kiss up to teacher Right, so you're gonna get a really good idea. How well you're gonna do by doing something like that and Get a they may even recommend an agent you need to be doing it to have that opportunity And when you make a tape, don't spend $3,000 to make a tape. Did I just ruin someone's business? God I hope and by the way when he says tape Oh, sorry real real real talking about a demo demo. Sorry. I'm dating myself and you know, that's sex with somebody I love woodie ellen. Okay. Uh, no, um, then that would be no, it's another job. I'll stop anyways So but the thing is is make have somebody You know charge you very little to make a demo to because you don't have the the chops Take a class learn find out every day You George me we every day some goes. I think I can be in voiceover. I can do cartoon voices every day Every hour every hour. Yeah, it's like everybody says I have a great voice where voiceover has changed is drastically is that it's it's Very much more acting. It's not member fdic. That's that's gone And what's called the voice of god ever since the great don lafontaine Left us. Uh, it's that that kind of thing is gone They don't want I mean, I'm doing tv stations across the country and they don't want tonight on the news They want tonight on the news right conversation. They want someone talking to you. They want someone yelling at you, right? You know and I do the big bang theory Not kind of wood And it used to be the big bang theory, you know, wow tonight's shelvin and blah blah blah That's changed too. CBS wants it now the big bang theory shelvin's got a crazy time and blah blah blah They want to talk And if you don't keep your ear to the ground, that's the other thing you're asking about getting an agent Uh, and I will give the the legendary, uh, jeff danis this credit. He said that to me He said you got to keep your ear to the ground It always changes every couple months. You have to change with it or you're out And then he said you're out So And Which actually I was the one who said I'm out and now mr. Uh, john wasser who is my fearless leader Uh wasser is killer as my agent because It's not about just him. It's us I say hey, man, I hear this job is open. This gig's open. He goes. All right Why don't all those agents talk like that? Uh, he goes great. You need to do this I need to do that and we'll do it together I can't in any talent that has a problem that you jump off a cliff right because most talents do no you get me the audition Well, there's a million people looking for the audition Help your agent help you and if your agent's willing to do that, you're very lucky because there's not a lot of agents that do that Um, the most of them are just sitting there. You want it in red? I got it in red. You want it in green? I got it in green um, but uh That's the whole thing about getting an agent. Okay We're talking with roger rose here on voiceover body shop. 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Darland darlin, yeah, darlin darlin v obs is still on Seriously, this is john bailey the epic voice and you're watching v obs dot tv Monday nights at 6 p.m. Pacific 9 30 newfoundland Man, there's one show that I can't miss it's called v obs and a lot of people like v obs. What is that? Really billions of people are watching this show billions billions. I think it was like the super ball and this than this You know, anyway, joy baker asks joy What's there was that one night joy and talk about timing and she asked just the right question Yeah, what's in your home studio set up and what percentage of your voiceover work does you do do you do at home Does I do does you do at your studio what percentage does that do do you what so what do you do? Where's joy baker live? Uh, she doesn't say we don't know what's her address I've been in Minneapolis. It's very nice. Yes, and I've done, uh, you know, my friend mr. George over there Uh has helped me For so many years do these goofball remotes live remotes And I used idd pd dd l right i've used source connect and I use that. What was that thing that was only for pcs Audio tx. Oh, yeah. Oh my goodness. Uh, I had that for a while and then uh, and then who's the great guy, uh with the end Steve naphthian, Steve naphthian And so you're asking about my home studio Uh, George has come because this is this is my usual phone call to George I got two minutes two minutes So can I talk about the hotels before I get to the outdoor studio? Absolutely. I know what's her name carol Joy joy your name's carol I could see how this could be There are both Dishwashing liquids aren't they put some carol joy in your uh Uh, so source connect their sponsor beers, right? Yes has really been the only one that's really worked for me Uh, but um, they have been actually fantastic, but If so first I went to europe, right? This was the big trip for the family You didn't see my daughter's doing this with her finger right now. Um, we went to Rome for foranza and to, um, Venizia, yeah Mr. George kind enough because source connect was in its infancy and I had to do cbs He called each hotel and then he'd say to me you can't stay at that hotel. That doesn't have the right But George that one actually has plumbing and he go no You got to stay in nibbly wonderful el suco hotel because they have a good internet and i'm not making that up I would say but george, please it goes nope and I would have to stay at el stinko But that's fine because it's the job and that's all that counts So, you know, my daughter would have to sit there and you know, no shower and it's a weekend Uh, so we go to each town and it's all been arranged and it's um And you know and he took photo pictures and we we double checked the thing It never worked a hundred percent george had you know, we had like double triple things said things and still didn't work and Joe Cipriano, he makes a lot of cash and he goes you want to get the ibt for I got it No one makes it anymore Thanks, and you know and then you know seldom an awful lot like joe. Yeah, I ran around verizon for a year going do you Oh, we don't make that Anyway, so I think and though I got through it I got through you know all these different places putting blankets on my head telling my family to leave the room I take roll away beds and put it am I am I making any of this up? No Desk on the thing the towel and the but and the thing is when you're working overseas right the time zone is a mess Everything was at three in the morning. I did it. I was in Paris. I was under a desk Just everything you're talking about. I didn't work in LA and you want to go to europe I have a client who just said you know what I was thinking of going to italy I'm just going to new york That's what losses trip when you realize what it was going to take Loser says if you do not have a george or you helping them and he double triple checking it Don't do it. He even has a george helping. I mean he still decided not well because the problem is is you are victim to Another country and I don't have game. I have game in the u.s. I go. Hi. I'm cbs. And how are you? They let they work with me you go in another country. They go and no come in But that's part of the golden handcuffs you have when you're doing i'm not complaining So we get to venice so we get to venice italy on christmas eve Who's gonna want me on christmas? I called it. You don't need. Oh, you don't need me George goes do I need to check this hotel? Nah It wasn't even that nice. Oh, that was it was a pretty nice hotel. It's okay. So we get there. It's like 6 p.m. In venice Rumoring they need you So george had called about the internet, but Nothing, I mean nothing and it's christmas eve. Yeah, really, but it's like 9 a.m. And la christmas eve so We did that luckily because it was christmas eve and I knew the producer we did it over a cell phone In and I would just sort of record it and send it in which they don't like they want it live But the that was a hundred and fifty dollar phone call And and everything and it was just a I was only lucky because it was christmas eve So, uh, that's a long story to go back to just um, and I wanted my show I wanted to think from like a car dealership This is back to the i'll answer, you know kimberley's question. I know it's carol or whatever joy joy Anyway I was doing a tv show in pasadena and we were shooting at a Volkswagen dealership CBS said we won't need you. It's fine They need you Luckily george said, okay, what do you got? What's the equipment you got? I got the laptop with me I got the I got the source connect and he said you got to have good internet or it's not gonna work And I learned that because I've been screwed and I lost a huge job in boston At the marion I was the voice of the acms And my internet didn't work because they have a firewall just a little tip for all you people and george said don't go to marriots There's no way around it. There is no way around a merry so don't go to a merry anyway So I said but so i'm at the dealership and i'm going what do I do? You know that room and all car dealerships that you go in the back where the guy goes You need rust only the finance uh the finance officer the finance officer Yeah, right. So for whatever reason these people are all indian I don't know why you know, so I go I go excuse me sir Yes, and I go can I use your room to cbs? Oh cbs they're good a big bang or the big bang order nci I go yes, can I'm gonna do that right from your desk Oh, this is very good. This is good. So he lets me go in his closing room, right? All the computers the entire brain of the auto dealership is there this again Goes back to your yes goes back to your commercial with you know, you know I'm sitting there going what am I gonna do I got to do this thing So I wait and I get on with cbs and they go could you turn off your tv and I go I don't know TV on here You got to just give me a countdown as soon as you got to give me a 10 second countdown because I just got to Take care of this because you don't tell cbs where you are or any other produce because You're telling them your problem. They don't want to know your problem This is back to the whole thing never tell your problem. You just go. Hey, how you doing you tell them your problem? You're gone. So I said they gave me a count 10 9 I pull every plug out in that room Everything the brain everything Tonight on cbs ncis You got it. You got it. Yeah, I got close enough and I run out and the guy goes How did the gold with the thing in the door? Oh great. No problem. Yeah, okay Yeah, people getting great deals that Thanks, George back to joy here. Oh back to joy. What do you got in your studio? What are you doing? Well these days you're you're in a temporary home. Yeah, so you should explain this more than me Well, I mean, I know you're in a temporary home. You had a major major pipe. That sounds like I'm a troubled child I'm in a temporary I let me out for an hour But uh, you're in a halfway. No, it's because you're you had a major pipe explosion under the ground in your house That's what you said and you're redoing when that happens So, yeah, so you've been working from a temporary space. It's worked out pretty well But how in you're doing a considerable amount of work from that temporary studio Um, do you ever get to go in? Quote unquote go into the studio. Oh sure into How often when you're not traveling how often if you're doing animation You always go in studio yes, if you're doing promo almost never almost But I like to go in studio and see certain things So I'll go once a week just for my own edification But they don't care if you they could care less if you come in Where are you going physically? Is that cbs tv city in hollywood? Yeah, and then uh, you know I've done some other networks and other things and so you you know, it depends if they want it or not but cbs knows that I like to See this stuff and it gives me a better thing, uh, but animation. Yes, and then It's gotten to the point now where they want us to be you they want us to be you guys and I never train for that I don't pretend that I'm good at this. I am not good technically. I blow And so I know from george that if it's an audition situation I'm fine if it's a phoner, which he set up for me on skype. I'm fine But if it's quality controlled You know recording I'm not fine. I don't know how to edit that well. I don't know how to mix at all You know have to though. Oh, it's getting to the point now where they're asking you to do stuff And so what you do is you say Well, I could do it, but I think you'd be making a very big mistake And then they back off or you hire an engineer that knows what they're doing You shouldn't hire they hire an engineer You shouldn't this the only thing you pay for are lessons and equipment and installation You never pay for a remote or an that that's You are opening yourself up to never making any money, right? It's it's embarrassing So, you know, but we can teach you But you can teach us. Yes. That's that's and that's why we're here But I mean like I george helped me put in this apollo I don't know what i'm doing and don't touch it I've screwed it up drastically took him eight hours So back to the home studio that's a temporary studio right now We put boards and foam And I've learned uh with some of my musician friends and george that You know, you don't just soundproof a room you it's bits and pieces. So the sound waves going The best and I don't know if you remember this the best best Sound studio I've ever had personal sound studio Barn I got more compliments on ISDN Anyway, can anyone guess I'm betting it's your closet my wife's closet more clothes the better there were shoes You know, I'd be going tonight. Ow I was in our shoes It was george put me in a little corner there because I didn't have anything then at that point It was in denver We smoked a lot Anyway, but the point she heard and what I learned from mr. Excitement over there is that the dresses Absorb the sound but in not just like that. It's just in and out It takes the sound and it finds its way through the fine lingerie and never I have never gotten More compliments on my sound and also how I looked in this one evening guy I waxed Well now we talked about everything else How about How about uh, boy, uh, tracy reynolds says uh, what tips do you have for taking care of your Voice aside from not doing this show. Wow. Wow that actually unfortunate. I have really good advice on that one Um, I had nodules on my vocal cords twice When I was 16 and then I got the old like the old time surgery, which I didn't need And uh, I so the night you have to relearn to to talk properly and all that And then about 15 years ago Uh, I started getting them back And there's all these famous Beverly Hills voice doctors, uh in in Beverly Hills. It's a good place. Yeah and oh Well, this one guy, uh, dr. Sugarman Said to me Well, you'll be out for three four months and all that kind of stuff He said go see this guy steven memmel and I strongly recommend steven memmel. He's literally like 10 blocks from this studio Let's give the address. Um And he said I'm he's been bugging me and he said that he can cure you for free And you just have to go get his therapy And I learned a lot of stuff about breathing And relaxation and he cured me it took six months, but he cured me and there's ways of finding out if your throat is really On not blasted. I was sent first to a guy. I don't want to say his name and he worked with uh paul abdull and lysa monelli Gives you an idea and his whole theory was you scream and you scream until That wasn't a very good theory Yeah, but I heard really good dirt on both those legs Um, anyway, but the point is is that with your voice? How do you take care of your voice? It's all the obvious stuff. First of all, I learned the only thing that touches your vocal cords is steam Nothing else touches your vocal cords So steam is really good. You know, like one of those big big things. Yeah, I was gonna say just go into a schvitz Our schvitz is always good. Uh, the other thing is is It's common sense. It's relaxation. I drink if I drink I drink on a friday night Maybe I'll drink on a set, but I will not drink on a sundae Uh, it's a you know, it's a diuretic. It drives you out Uh, phlegm. I'm jewish phlegm. So Always so no cheese during you know, if you're if you really want to know those kind of things unless you're doing something jewish In that case it's I once did a uh, $100,000 candy bar commercial And this is when I first started and I walk in and they brought in a case of $100,000 candy bars And the whole bit was we asked a man what he thought of the button. I'm like Well again acting, you know But I didn't know so by the third candy bar. I'm like Yeah I said I can't do it anymore, but I remember that commercial Oh, really? I do. Oh There's five bucks. Thank you. Anyway, the the the main thing about taking care of your throat is the obvious number one is breathing You really need to learn about your breathing. There's voice lessons that you could use to help open your throat but steam And also the obvious the drinking and then the most crazy thing that I learned is Proud of loud restaurants or bars if you go to those those are the worst thing for your voice because you jump an octave You you're like talking like this and you're really stretching your throat trying to talk to you and all that kind because you can't hear yourself Right so loud So you need to train yourself and during that time when I was going out. I said well, I really have to be at this thing It's a big Event and I'm you know talking there and everything this was during my uh The reason I went to see him and all this happened because I that's the was the week of my audition of prices, right? And I had nothing I had nothing and by the third prices, right? It was gone. I was like But he got me through three shows which is pretty impressive. Anyway, the end of the story is that um He said go I said no, you're telling me. I'm not allowed to go. You'll be fine And I went and I came back to him the next day. I'm like And he goes get that out of your system I said, yeah, he said It's up to you. You want to do this in the future. You have no career go for it Right. Yeah, we tell people at voiceover conferences which can be loud affairs. Yeah inside voices. Yeah Go to the quiet end of the bar And that's once where all the pretty girls are too. It's also where there's not as much noise And it's breathing. It's it's it's literally there's obvious stuff in voice lessons And I I want to pimp him one more time if I may stephen memmel m e m e l He really gets it. He's a singer He trains singers and he but he gets it's all Because it comes from here. It's all about relaxation and your breath and every time I had to do a syndicated package And my voice was still not a hundred percent and he found the You know, it was two bro girls So tonight on two bro girls and I have it in my head now. I have it because your brain So when I needed to go to that where I wouldn't hurt my throat I knew where to lock into it And that was his teaching and then and there's a thing on Frank Sinatra On pbs about I don't know if you've seen it's like a four hour documentary He talks about his early days And he talks about how he didn't get it until he went to a vocal coach and how your upper voice and and he showed And there's a pictures of The air going through and he and he said that's what gave him his career Wow, so it really is there and I'm always told, you know, even just as a voice actor It's good to take voice lessons. It really is learn how to project your voice properly and not yeah But I mean acting is first and foremost now, but but if you're having vocal problems You need to take a voice lesson or or or, you know, and here's the other one which is hard for I think It helps yeah, we got time for one more question one more So do I do I do with the one in the wheel? Who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be jack or maxine jack or maxine? Jack it could be a special trip for you or maxine I'll wax your legs Okay Okay, well, it's kind of dull. I mean the dovetails off of what you're talking about was training Yeah, with maxi maxi was asking you. I like that name. It's maxine's last name. Did she say maxine done? Oh, oh, it's you Wow, she really Um Yeah, what are the formal training? Uh, did you have the uh besides working with a vocal coach? What are the trainings you have along the way? I'm I'm Different than the most as you can obviously tell Well maxi and I'll tell you no because I come from a performing family. Uh, I really learned on the job I I my mother and father were broadcasters, but then I took a lot of uh Improv I studied I studied the royal academy of dramatic art for the summit program And I studied at strawsburg and all that junk But I also studied the groundlings. Do you know who was my groundling class? Lots of great people went through there. Yeah, but this is depressing He was 16 years old. He was going to high school and we went through the whole class together And he um, he was writing movies and then I got vh1 I give groundlings the credit for helping me with vh1 and Friday the 13th because I was already doing voiceovers and stuff And I went to do vh1. He went to sarah laurence Some guy named jj abrams And he would come on my show as the half mime. He had like His voice was I mean his face was half away from his nose up and he goes i'm going Against the wind I go you're talking. He goes i'm a half mime Anyway, uh, a very funny guy and we've we've kept up since then um, but uh, he was really in uh, what's her face? Was our teacher, um the redheaded comedian, uh, crazy. We feel bald No, I got a great lucille ball story No, close, uh the one who got all who got herself in trouble Kathy griffin Quick lucy story when I was a page at cbs. I told you I was 18 and there was talk shows going on And I got to meet betty davis. They were all like at their last moments betty davis, uh, orson wells And lucille ball and lucille ball Was on and again. She was you know pretty old and Maybe I not saying but maybe there was a couple of Things that she enjoyed prior to the broadcast And so they said to me you need to have her sign her contract. I go i'm a page Just just do it And so I go over and you know, you've heard the stories about but she was very happy and very nice. She goes hi honey And and she grabs my hand. She goes, I can't see you have to sign this for me. I go no miss paul You have to say no honey. So my hand in her hand She was like Okay, and then orson wells if I may tell that sure I'll shut up here after all this orson wells Was if you don't know or some wells was see pinky in the brain. It's morris lemar Yes pinky is one of the great Director writer performers of all time sell no wine No, and he had this booming voice, right? So and he was Larger than most motorhomes and so I'm knocking on his door. They told me when anyone was in trouble They would make me do it. So I knock on his door. Nothing. Mr. Wells Mr. Wells nothing then come in You know like the wizard of Oz, right? I'm 18. I'm open the door and it's completely dark in his dresser There's nothing no windows or anything like that. I'm trying to find him, you know, I feel this on my hand And I go, oh no, he's not gay. I hope he's not this is not good and he goes turn on the lamp And I'm like He turns lamp because I can't find it because what do you want and there's you know orson wells and I go Hey, we just hang the thingy. He signs it hands it to me goes turn off the light I'm like And then as I'm walking he goes kid and I go yes, sir And he goes, I'm in a bad mood. Please. Forgive me. I went. Yes, sir. Thank you Thank you, which I thought was really again menchie. Yeah and close the door and I peed myself Orson wells has that impact on a lot of people I guess I mean, you know again I told you I don't try to knock he both right very cool, right fascinating Roger. 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That's voice over x t r a dot com And and we're back here on voiceover body shop God one story after another the guy's been there. He's done it He has fascinating, you know and a prolific guy and great and great tips too as well Well next week on this very show We have the lovely tracy limley will be joining us Well, hopefully without all her all her kids either. Oh, she has a lot of kids But she has a remote, right? Yes, you'll be remote. She's but she's got this great program teaching people how to market properly Unlinked in it's a great program. Uh march 5th carlos aliz rocky And I the guy's been like roger. He's done a lot of stuff. He knows what our show's about Yeah, and he's still coming on. Yeah Believe it or not. Uh march 12th the guy you and I both want to meet. Uh Mike del guado, who's the booth junkie? You're not going to believe this Yeah, let me tell you the way you actually say his name. We got to believe me. Okay. It's del Godio del godio Like literally delg audio like audio is part of his name Ah, he was he was born for this. Yeah, michael godio. He's the booth junkie on youtube, right? Uh march 10th dano day who has some great tips for for voice actors Yeah, and then march 26 talking about uh throw doctors dr. Rina gupta will be with us from uh osborn head and neck She's really good. She's you know Almost as good as jill Bernstein Maybe uh, uh, let's see here uh april 2nd. We're taking off for Yay All that stuff we need and eventually we're gonna need it by that who are our donors of the week Oh, man. Well, let's take a look. We've got We got you guys have heard a lot of these names because a lot of folks are regular But mention them again because they're donating because they're giving us money So we'll say their names and if you're one of them we'll say yours too like tracy h reynolds. Thank you, tracy Very regular donor eric erigoni Uh Still hitting us on every episode. Um tremaine mosley great guy He's uh, he's a subscriber and he donates every single month Um going down the list here. We've got Phillips appear also subscriber to the show you could donate one time You could donate on a recurring monthly basis every day if you'd want to yeah, it's fine Um Sarah borges And that's a monthly donation and last but not least here on this list ant land productions You know them you love them uncle roy. Yes Ah, let's see here. We know george the tech dot com That's right. That's where my tech stuff is and we all know home voiceover studio dot com. That's right That's where you're gonna find us. Ah, let's see. What else here? Oh show logs The show logs jack jack the goalie is out there still in the desert writing every word we ever say It's there with the youtube video tomorrow. 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Yeah, which is gotta like that Uh, let's see here. Uh, dan will do in the chat room. Oh jack He was helping with the floor producer. All right. Well tonight. So that was very helpful And uh, jack the goalie for the show notes and of course lee pennies simply for being lee pennie Come visit us lee, please All right. Well, that's gonna do it for us tonight. What a great show. I'm dan lennard I'm george wedham and this is voiceover body shop or v. O B s Every great week. Everybody will see you next monday night good night Vio and I love vio. How much bs is gonna be in this show? There's only one way to find out Hey guys, this is tom also known as the voice of spongebob square pants And you want to fill your ear holes and your eye holes with dan and george and the audio body shop Snails like it too before time began. There was v o b s dot tv watch or else You're