 It is time for Mac Geek Gab and Warren comes to us today with our opening cool stuff found and it's a simple one Onyx our favorite troubleshooting app one of our favorite troubleshooting apps here is now Available for Mac OS Ventura It's at titanium fr and we will of course put a link in the show notes at Mac geek gab comm where by the way You can also sign up to get the show notes delivered to your email every week More tips like this plus your questions answered today on Mac geek gab 955 From Monday November 14th 2022 And welcome to Mac geek gab the show where you send your cool stuff found your tips your questions in to Feedback at Mac geek up comm we take everything we mash it up. We string it together into an agenda The yeah, we answer your questions Hopefully the idea being that every single one of us learns at least five new things Every single week when we get together Sponsors for this episode include a linked in comm slash MGG where you can go and post your first job for free BB at it one of my favorite things and and my certainly my favorite text editor and collide we're at KOL IDE comm slash MGG you can learn about this fantastic device security Implementation that uses slack to educate your users not force your users to do things We'll talk more in depth about each and every one of those a little bit later in the episode for now Here in still quite balmy Durham, New Hampshire. I'm Dave Hamilton and here in Equally balmy Thurfield, Connecticut. This is John F. Brown And here where it's actually cooler in the studio than it is outside in Durham, New Hampshire next to Dave To his left to my right Pilot Pete. Thanks for having me guys Pete it's yeah, it's nice to have you back here in the studio. Yeah, it's fun to be here Yeah escaping some leaf blowers today. It happens. Hey, that's how that works. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I think I need to give you a little more game Pete. Okay, so so I oh no, I haven't done that The wrong channel. All right, well, we'll adjust that as we go Let's go to listener Scott here and we will get things started great Scott Great Scott gosh, you know, the problem is I just came off doing a run of rocky horror Oh, yes, and there is a callback that the audience does with great Scott I'm not going to repeat it here because we keep this show family friendly But I almost said it because it's just become muscle memory Wow. All right, Scott says please save us Scott Since upgrading to iOS 16 after sending an email with a reference to waiting for a response such as get back to me When this is complete iOS takes it upon itself to create a follow-up message for me It then proceeds to put that back in my face when I open mail Suggesting that I send it as a follow-up to my original. Hey look, I don't need reminders like that I have my own systems in place to determine when to follow up. Thank you very much It turns out that the new version of iOS mail has an option enabled in settings Apparently by default called follow-up suggestions for those of you who like Scott Like me he says don't like to be nudged to follow up on things instead of following your own methods Turn that off and you do it in settings mail Scroll down a little way to messages and it is called follow-up Suggestions and and yeah, I I found it on mine, too. I had to turn it off I Looked for this in macOS mail on Ventura and I could not find it Pete you said you did well I found a little something and first of all kudos to Scott for not seeing I have a wife to nag me about those things instead He wanted to remain married, I guess I don't know yeah, but yeah no in in macOS mail under messages I'm sorry under the message menu about six down. There's ignore follow-up, but I think you have to have that follow-up mail Highlight it and then click on ignore follow-up So it doesn't stop it from coming back, but I think it turns it off interesting wait for that mail Yeah, what if that was very confusing the first time? Yeah in my inbox wait. Yeah, something I said. Yeah for sure for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Where'd that come from? Alright, yeah, not quite as granular as iOS. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, John You didn't find anything for this in macOS mail or a comp a similar setting, right? No, no. Yeah, all right Vashon brings us our next quick tip He says in a recent episode you were talking about the voicemail messages being full on your iPhone And there was no way to delete them for good There absolutely is a clear all messages option button under deleted messages once clicked You'll be presented with it with a dialogue that reads or asks Permanently clear deleted voicemails when clicked all are removed and you get your space back Okay, so you got to delete them first and then go into deleted messages and effectively empty the trash. So yeah John do you know I Know because when I when I had this happen to me. Yeah, so I Had someone Got back to me called me back, you know, I called them and they called me back And he's like, oh, yeah, by the way, your voicemail is full and I'm like, huh? Yeah, so I don't think it happens automatically, okay, okay, or at least not in my experience Maybe it will now with newer versions of the OS, right? Got it. Yeah. Yeah, maybe yes It could well. Yeah, I guess suppose it is an OS thing. I mean it it's a There's a partnership there between Ios and whoever your carrier is because the carriers have to support what what the Apple calls visual voicemail In order for that to work most carriers do but it is that partnership between the two. So yeah, interesting Going back to our opening cool stuff found Brian Monroe in our chat room at live dot Mackie cub comm points out that I spoke the wrong URL for it because I was pulling it from memory. It is Titanium dash software dot FR. It's the right one in the show notes I just set it without the dash software in the intro So that and that's thought the onyx for Mac OS Ventura, which is now out. So thank you for that Brian Monroe. Appreciate the heads up alright moving on to Jocko who brings us our next little quick tip and this really is a quick tip reprise Jocko found something that any the first time any of us find it We are super excited about it and it's one of those things that I think For most of us certainly for me Immediately makes its way into my fingers muscle memory and that is he says, you know when you type a long message and realize You've made a mistake somewhere It's always been a mission tapping with my thumb at the right place to move the cursor to the correct letter So I can edit well to move the cursor easily simply tap and hold on the spacebar on your iPhone and Move the cursor to the correct place. It basically turns your iPhone keyboard into a trackpad so that you can drive around It I agree. It's it's not Apple should communicate to people that this feature is there because Everybody should know about it because it's just it's so handy and yet clearly not everyone does which is why we Revisit this on the show, you know, I don't know we probably do it once every six or eight months I find it posted to like CNET once every two years and every time people share it like it's, you know, they've invented fire, right? Like it's exactly because it's so powerful. It is very powerful as soon as I found it I'd like you say immediately it went in there and in just a Dot an eye on that the way you tell that you're in that trackpad mode is all your keys go blank. Yes That's right. Yeah looking at it is because if you if you start moving too soon You wind up scrolling Typing letters or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a great one Yeah, I just I wish I wish like the first time you launched the key I mean, I know that Apple can only do so many things and but what they tell me about the first time you launched the keyboard on an iPhone is the whole like You don't have to lift your finger to draw words functionality I'm curious to do either of you guys John Do you use that functionality to just keep leave your finger on and and draw words? No, okay, Pete Do you need to record that? Yes, I do that all the time. You really okay? Yeah, I find a much faster if I if I swipe to to draw a word. So just yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, and iOS is pretty intuitive. It's good. Yeah, and it even puts in the correct form of two Right, right. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's good at that stuff Yeah, and and I actually had I used to have another keyboard called switch Which I have since gotten rid of because he was the first did it did that did that for you. That's right Yeah, yeah, so I mean it's I guess maybe I don't I would say the trackpad and this is you know, Dave's opinion But to me the trackpad functionality is far More important than the leave your finger on the trackpad Yeah, the finger finger on the keyboard functionality, but I don't actually I'll tell you what else I've started doing even more Yeah, is go down to the bottom right corner tap the microphone and just dictate what I want to say isn't that right? And you know in a noisy environment doesn't work so much But you know especially in the car try not to text in the car But if I if I get something that's urgent Then you know, I just hit the microphone and and tell it hey, yeah Yep All right good stuff any you have any related tips John that come to mind while we're having this discussion now I I think I stumbled across this by accident. Okay. I mean Yeah, but I don't Really do lots of emailing on my phone. I do most If not almost all of my emails on my computer. Well, and this isn't just email. Yeah, it's texting It's any time the keyboard's up you can you can you know draw your your things I mean, I use it. Yeah, I use the trackpad thing in lots of apps, but yeah All right, I should start charging on the flight deck when I show guys that on the ipad, right? I know it's five dollar. I'll show you something cool. Yeah, exactly exactly because every one of them is like, oh, that's worth its weight Hey speaking of voice Rico has a PSA here Uh, he says did you know that well the hey s lady? I'm not gonna say that although I probably could because it would likely only wake up my phone, which I don't want to do Uh, he says did you know that while hey s lady is trained to listen to your voice? What comes afterwards? Is not so if I were to wake up my phone with hey s lady and you started talking before I could Uh It you know, you would be able to give my phone commands and Dave's front door. Yeah, right Rico says, um Needless to say our family tug-of-war for the car radio has taken on a whole different dimension I am so glad that my family didn't know this and I'm hoping it remains that way because Um, we were in Oregon. It was about a year ago. Um, we My wife daughter and I went down to we were you know, we're staying in Portland. It was Thanksgiving season We were out there visiting Lucas who was at school and uh, but he had classes You know for a couple of days that we were there. So we went to willamette valley and did a Cup actually several wine tastings um, I Maintained my sobriety And so I drove us home and that was the plan. It was fine. It was all good. Nope. No complaints Uh, we had a lovely day. That was really fantastic. Actually, we blended our own wines Which was fun. Like I'd never yeah, and we learned about it It was like a class that we took it was, you know, we found like some airbnb experience. Anyway, um on the way home The the ladies Wanted to hear Dua Lipa The the levitating song that she has that was you know, even more popular a year ago than it was now And they kept ranting at The the car because the car that we rented had carplay, you know And so they were they just kept saying hey s lady play Dua Lipa and thank goodness It wouldn't listen to them because it was my phone because I was the one driving And so uh, I was able to avoid hearing Levitating over and over again on the way home, but if they had it I'm glad they didn't figure out that me Waking up the phone was enough to get them access to tell it what to do So yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's good. So thank you for that rico. Please Pete said he was gonna Ask people on the flight deck to to to pay him for the advice that he gave him I'm asking you. I will pay you not to give my family that advice. So Anyway, I've had that a couple times too was like my mother in the car Yeah, hey, yes lady, you know, and then mom starts Gabbing on in there. It's like Yeah, mom need you to be quiet for just a second just a second. Yeah, we have that in the kitchen with The a lady because that's what you know, that's what we use out loud in the in the house and You know somebody will be cooking and like conversation is going and somebody says hey, you know turn on the oven Which is uh, we have a wi-fi oven I can't tell you how much we love Being able to say hey preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Oh, that's cool. I don't know why we use the word preheat by the way There is no preheating. We are heating the oven to 350 degrees. There you go. Yeah, it's it's like you don't par boil water You know like Yeah, tell it to your hot water heater Correct. Exactly. Yeah, I don't heat the hot water as much as people might think anyway. Yeah Anyway Harvey save us from this This mayhem Harvey says, uh, where is harvey here? Do we have a quick tip from harvey? Yeah, it was on it's about the series Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't we don't have an email from him. We have a It's just a reminder that With the latest versions of ios Uh and watch os you can control your apple watch with your phone And you do this by going into settings on the iphone that's paired with your apple watch So generally your if it's your apple watch your iphone go to accessibility And go to apple watch mirroring and you can turn on apple watch mirroring an image that mirrors your apple watch Display appears on your iphone and you can use gestures on the mirrored image So it it truly is like screen sharing for your watch Which is awesome That is cool. I wish I could do the same with my phone Great. I like I'm from my mac. I yeah, okay. I don't there's a Couple quick points on that one I think we talked about it before as you can control your phone's camera from your watch though So you can take selfies from across the room and and tell it hey now snaps You don't have to get set for 10 seconds and yeah and smile and all that and you can control the zoom With the crown. Yes when you're doing that. It is. Yeah, that is so cool And something else I just figured out and we'll talk more about focus stuff later But you can not only pick your screen for your iphone Based on the what focus mode you're in so you go you can change your watch face as well Based on what focus mode you're in for instance right now. I usually I'm in way Finder or something like that the new one, but I changed it to another one when I'm in podcasting mode just so it's it changed my Yeah So it tells me hey, I'm in podcasting and you can actually see the calendar event Let me see if it now it's upside down upside down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Saying I'm doing the mac geek gap if you're watching the yeah if you're watching the video you can see it. Yeah Oh, I got to do that because that's a I love the the uh I love that implementation on the phone because A quick glance of my phone. I know what focus mode I'm in I but like I glance at my watch far more frequently than I glance at my phone And it's not uncommon for me to finish a podcast And realize an hour later that I'm still in podcasting focus mode where no one can get a hold Where yeah, yeah, you guys can get a hold of me. That's it, you know, it's like, oh crap. Yeah, I got it Also, while we're at it on the quick tips. I noticed something You know how you can mute Certain conversations in messages and when you do you see a little, you know The little bell with the the line through it next to it in the list So you you have a visual indicator that it is muted If that conversation is pinned as one of your favorite conversations Right, so you can you can pin your favorites up at the top. Yep. Yep There is no visual indicator that that conversation is muted And I it was the strangest thing man for like a couple of weeks back in october I wasn't like I would see messages from my daughter, but I couldn't like I was like Why am I not getting notifications from her and finally I looked like in our messages thread and I had hide alerts turned on I don't know when or why I would have turned that on but it got turned on on one of my devices And of course it syncs to all of them right that there was zero visual indicator that it was on And when I turned it off things looked exactly the same as they did when it was on so yeah be Aware of that. That's one of those ui inconsistencies with hide stuff from yourself. You can yeah. Yeah hide stuff from yourself Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I um Yeah, there was just nothing I had no idea even texting her there was just nothing on that screen or anything Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Speaking of the watch listener mark has a quick tip going back a couple of episodes here. We were talking about the uh, the watch strobe right because you can you can have the the the white light Ish the red light and then the strobe light and we were saying, you know Limited use cases that we came up with for it Mark has another one. He says uh as the days get shorter The strobe setting is great for walking or biking along roads at dusk so cars can see you What a brilliant idea. That is a good idea. Yeah Yep, I still would like you know, you got the red mode on the Apple watch ultra. Yeah There's I forget what we have the red mode on all watches. Yeah as you pointed out Yeah, well, no, no, sorry the red light for the flashlight. We don't have the red watch Mode you can turn your crown on your watch dial and it goes and your watch goes red It's good for sleeping. You can leave the always on display on and you aren't brightening up the entire room but the the one Fish shake at apple I have on that is you know, if you're in red mode and you turn on the flashlight Maybe you'd like the red light to come on But it comes on to white and it defaults to white even if you turn it off and go back It comes back to white. You have to be in theater mode for it to default to red To red. Yeah, so apple if you're listening when you're in red mode. How about letting me turn my flashlight on to red, please? Yeah Yeah, somebody Well, I will say this So you're right that particular watch face is only available on the Ultra and when you turn the crown on that watch face, it goes from, you know, I'll call it white to yeah, it's a multicolor right to just read While we don't have that watch face on Other apple watches. We do have other watch faces, of course and the crown is useful on those faces I have uh, yeah, Pete's trying to do it on the pete in the video is showing it It's only on that one watch face, but um, I you know, whatever watch face I'm using as I as I move the crown the numbers Get taller and shorter. I I I will attempt to show it on the video Yeah, I mean it's it's just one of those things um Yeah, you can see it happening on the video where the numbers get taller and shorter It's it's a weird it's for us old guys. It can't see his good. No, I don't know It's more of a design thing to be perfectly Yeah, like to me like the they don't get easier or harder to read. They just look different. So I don't know what that You know, so my point is regardless of what watch face you use Try moving the crown on the watch face. You might find that it does a thing That either is useful or interesting or neither find some cool stuff You might find and then when you do you get what what do they do when they find this information? Personally, I'd send it to feedback at make geek get well, that's a choice that you could make That's a choice. John. Would you make a choice? Um, my choice would be feedback at mackeygap.com Well, I mean that's choices that you guys would make I And again, this is just me. I'm right. Obviously. I'm I'm the most right here. Well, it's our show Yeah, yeah, but uh, but it's feedback at mackeygap.com. That's where I would send it All right, john You want to take us to peter's quick tip? Yeah, peter's got a good one here. Um, peter says Or writes following up on the discussion about access to the photo library via the Camera on the lock screen. I tested and find out that the trick you previously covered On holding the side button and one of the volume buttons to quickly shut off face id While traveling also such shuts off photo access on the lock screen And it does That makes sense Yeah, when I did it and and you know, I tried to access my photos. I think it just came up the screen saying No access nope Huh, I like it right well your photos Yeah, because this okay, this makes sense. I when this first came in I was like, well, but what we learned was Photos aren't accessible from the lock screen unless you Unless it's you that's looking at the phone because face id will unlock it for you and then photos are accessible But because that let little move of of hitting both the buttons Shuts off face id, which means that photos would then be inaccessible until you unlock the phone So, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now. I'm now I get it now. I get it All right This is good. All right in the uh in the preshow peat You and I were talking about notifications Uh and focus modes, right? and We realized something interesting I do you want to do you have a concise way of explaining the problem I can't remember what I when I had a last sip of coffee, but I will give it my best shot Okay So I was playing with focus mode this morning and one of the things I discovered that new in ios 16 is Not only can you allow certain people to Notify you and this isn't either or You can set up a block list from notifications and given focus modes. That's right So that's kind of cool But the other thing I had set it up So I had only allowed certain people to notify me and then I went downstairs and I was making my coffee and lo and behold If xfinity didn't notify me that my payment had been made. I'm like, I know I didn't allow them Well, guess what I did allow Messages right which which you pointed out to me. Yeah, you allowed all messages to come through when you do that So you have to Disallow that app and allow certain people through in a focus mode Right So it I did the same exact the reason I knew what your problem was was because I Made the same assumption and the assumption that I made was when setting up my focus mode You can you can select people and apps and as Pete said you can select people to either include or block And I I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think the same is true with apps You certainly can choose certain apps to allow And so I set up my focus mode and I said, all right great These are the people I want to allow and these are the apps that I want those people to be able to pester me with Right, right. And so I added messages Unknowingly what I did was I said I'll let those people pester me which would be calls and messages and not just messages But slack and you know What's happened any other app that that subscribes to to you know to that links your contacts together Which is a great feature that I love But I also then allowed messages To notify me anytime the messages app It's not connected So if I just wanted people to notify me via If I just wanted to get notifications from certain people don't add apps to the to the focus mode, right? Yeah, right and I made let me also make a PSA here Well, I'm thinking about it because I had this discussion with my wife this morning uh, but my mother-in-law was the victim of a Elder abuse scam, you know, hey go to target get Cards and don't go to the checkout with people go to the self-check out that sort of thing And our neighbor's mother recently Wound up giving her bank account number the routing number and adding somebody to zeal And fortunately when she when it denied it she went to td bank and they went. Yeah, no You're being scammed. So thank goodness td bank was on the ball with this But for those of you who have some An elderly parent or someone that doesn't quite grok technology I would get into their phone and get the focus mode going so that these knuckleheads can't get through to them Start blocking people that aren't in their contact list from being able to call them And I just that's that's what we're doing with my mother-in-law now And that's what our neighbors are going to do with with their mother's phone So that someone can't call and of course they set it up when it came through it looked like it said apple computer They're call her id show apple computer, you know because they're spoofing it. Yeah And well, but she that's why she believed it said apple computer. That's why they're calling me Uh, yeah, no. Well, they the apple computer doesn't call you and ask you to go to target and give gift cards Do you understand that right? Oh, but they needed money. Yeah, that's the apple has your credit card. 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Well try editing every text replacement on your mac He said i'm gonna have to go and manually re-enter them. I said well if you're gonna have to edit every one of them Uh instead of that go just add like a one to the beginning of every single one And see if the edit then forces things to To sink through and it did so that that worked and it kept him from from having to you know re-type every one of them But what he said was i'm not able to edit text replacements on the mac I can add them and I can remove them, but I can find no way to edit them so I thought well that seems strange and so I went into system settings keyboard text replacements on my ventura mac and What I had to do was tap Twice on either side, you know text replacements have the what you type and what you get columns I had to tap twice on whichever column I wanted to edit that is not a double click That is a clicking twice with a lot of space and time in between those two clicks For me that was how I was able to consistently get that to turn into an edit box And uh and and then everything was good. So I oh got another way to do it. All right great. Pete. Thank you Highlight it okay and hit the enter key And then you can tab it to get over to the next column Or shift tab to get to the previous column. Oh man I knew there was a reason I let you in the door this morning. Pete. That's great even a blind squirrel Yeah Good fine. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's weird that there's it's it's not Like if I'm clicking on it What did you think I wanted to do with it? Like you there's no There's no functionality with clicking on it. Although and I will remind everyone I know we talked about this recently, but if you right click on them, you will see the import and export Uh things so and if you double click on it, it just sits there stupidly Right, right Yeah All right, uh What do we have you have to have me? Oh why I love stage manager. Why I love stage manager. Yeah cure it writes He says uh Dave I've heard you on two to three occasions that you do not see the value of stage manager in your workflow and have encouraged your listeners to share their reasons Uh, I have started loving it. It is really good on large monitors on desktops for some it may work on laptops But real estate limitations will bother you. Yeah, okay. I can see that. Yeah He says, uh, I am a neat freak and I do not like clutter on my desktop My dock icons are absolutely minimalist. I use alfred for app launch And bartender for menu bar only one window at a time I have over the years learned to use spaces. Okay, this starts to make sense to me says so for emails Uh Apple Mime stream and spark. I had three spaces All were optioned to open in a certain space on startup Spaces for notes messages, etc. Now. I have only four spaces one for emails one with one app on the front stage two on one side Okay, uh, see emails getting a little bit weird. It might have been dictated Uh miscellaneous spades for notes messages. What's app? Uh with only one window open a browser space For safari chrome and firefox and a project space for all the things related to it. And that's it. It's all clean And I am able to uh to open everything. So yeah, that's cool. Kirit. All right Yeah, okay. I yeah, it it clearly is the evolution of spaces is what this stage manager is So yeah, and I've heard from several others that the larger the screen the better stage manager works for them So, yeah, yeah Are you using stage manager at all jonath brahm? Um Well, I sometimes Okay, like what how do you use it like what's your what's your use case for it? I'm curious uh just to uh You know to see To see what apps are running Oh interesting. Oh, okay. Do you have your dock auto hide? Uh, no, okay. So, I mean so theoretically you could see that with the dock with the tiny little dots, but Okay, interesting, but it doesn't show you every app that's running in stage manager, right? It only shows you the recent ones. Isn't that correct? Um Not on my implementation Huh interesting. Well, I'm on a laptop. So I use command tab to see what's running, right, right Keep the keep the command key down until I you know, yeah where I want but yeah Yeah Yeah, interesting interesting. All right. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I I have yet to find The workflow for me I I have I I never implemented spaces really I would use it when doing presentations Because it's a really easy way to just like make sure that all the app clutter is gone but um But I yeah, I I never I don't know. It just never Never stuck for me. I might but I see people Like my son on his laptop uses spaces At very much as an integrated part of his workflow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, and he has not gone to stage manager yet So I'm curious to see if that if that happened interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Hey, I gotta offer a warning people don't listen to this next section if you don't want to buy an Apple watch Oh, yeah, that's true. John. You want to take us to Lee? Yes, as our as our most recent Apple watch convert Mm-hmm. Um So Lee says, um Uh, I was late on set Apple watch user having inherited a well used series two model For my wife about a year ago despite its age the battery lasts me all day easily That's been my experience too Um, I definitely follow to the category of not really knowing what it can do despite being a matte geek for decades Maybe because maybe because it's because I've never worn a watch. They don't really perk my coffee. Oh, I like that I like that phrase. Yeah, that's good Uh, but here's what it's done for me that I now couldn't live without um One uh responds the second factor login request for vpn logins neat I just tap the watch to accept I do this dozens of times a day so much more convenient than digging out the phone Uh, number two responds to my mask my max asking if it's okay to install software, etc Uh, it just drops in the password double click the watch and off we go. No mousing or typing Uh, number three, let's me receive phone calls to my iPhone when I'm around the house and the phone isn't Isn't with me I actually had that happen the other day Someone called me and I saw it on my watch and I'm like, oh, well, that's neat Did you answer it on your watch? No. Oh, okay. It works like The microphones are amazing the microphones are amazing. Yeah, I've I've talked to lisa on her watch And not known that she's on her watch because you know be having a conversation. She was like, hang on Let me uh, let me let me just pick up my phone and do it this way. It's easier I'm like, what were you on she's like, oh, it's just I answered on my watch. I was around the house or whatever Wow, okay. Yeah, but I have but I have made calls on the watch Oh, okay. All right. Yeah And you know, so I called my landline. Yes, I still have my landline people Is it really a landline or is it a void? No, it's it's void. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Um, But yeah, I called it for my watch and I was like, wow, that's neat. Yeah Uh, let's see, uh, some other things I can see messages. Um, okay, if you want to see them, that's good. Um, I've I've had that happen as well Um All right, let's see. Okay, I can tell the time with the addition of the time in my home Then across the world no big deal, but it takes out confusion Of daylight savings on both ends. Okay Yeah, um Ah, yeah with my with my daughter in italy now I have the time in italy just up on my watch All the time and and they you know, they switched over to daylight saving You know, or whatever they call winter time in summertime a week before us. Yeah, so it was like, oh, yeah Super easy. I just I know that it's you know, 530 where she is right now. So yeah, it's easy Yes, john. Okay next. Um, I see my next calendar appointment. Yes, I've I've had that happen On the watch face very handy Um, although my organization Uses microsoft office and outlook as its productivity platform. Uh, it's not uncommon for apple calendar and outlook calendars could not sink sigh Um, but yeah, like yeah, I got an alert, you know this morning saying hey, you got to do podcasts soon Yeah, yeah, um you can sink. I mean like I don't know how his organization has security set up, but you can definitely add exchange outlook calendars to Apple calendar and then see those on your on your watch. I mean, it's the same as adding a google calendar Yes, it's not apple, but you could still do that on your phone. So that might be something to look into. Yeah, yeah Uh, and let's see uh, we we cover this before but um I have used the watch to frame up and trigger the camera in the iphone for family selfies I don't know how I ever discovered that it's a testament to apple's design that I did I figured the watch must have asked me at some point Huh, yeah How are you liking your watch john? um I found I had to say I was getting over notified Yes Um, this was a conversation Keith and I had this morning. Yeah. Yeah, I subscribe to apple news Yep news and I get the notifications on my MacBook about articles sure, but I don't want them On the watch. It's just too much. It's not It's not that important to me Right, right. Yeah, it's not how you want to consume that information. Yeah, exactly Yeah, so uh, so I went into I think it's uh, what is it the watch app? Yeah notifications and Turned off news Got it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a lot happier Being in that state because I don't want Yep notifications the other thing, um I find it kind of clunky, but I have to jump through some hoops to uh To do apple pay Like to bring up the the right card Okay, I don't know. I just kind of figure a better way to To do that it's it's two clicks and then swipe to the card you want and it's two clicks and then I call it scroll But yeah, you're swiping off. Yeah, yeah Yeah, two clicks of the the the not crown button whatever the heck that is not the action button Not the action button on the right. Yeah, you're right But it it I actually I I experienced the same thing as you john when when that became a thing Where it was like and know I can do this. I know I've done it before why like why do I feel like I have mittens on What's the right thing and I just had to do it a few times you can turn the crown too instead of swiping up Oh, yeah, but you still have to start with the double tap. You have to double tap to get apple pay Yeah, and then oh, yeah, you're right. You can use the crown to scroll around. Ah, nice. Yeah and I want to if I want to change the order. Oh, I can drag the order around Oh, I don't want the I don't want my debit. I never use my debit card. Do not make that the default, please Okay, but I can but you can rearrange just like we were saying on the phone Uh recently and I know we said it about the watch at the time But I didn't do anything with it because you know, we were doing a show and I probably shouldn't be doing this While we're doing a show, you know, it's a thing Uh, man, it's really hard to land that thing where you want to land it if it's not the top one But I I did it now. I've succeeded. Whoo All right. Yeah fun good One other native app to the watch Which is actually kind of cool. What's that walkie-talkie? Oh, yeah played with that at all. Um, I've played with it It has not become part of my Thing. Yeah, I'll have to pester john later with the walkie-talkie. I find it nice Yeah, I find it nice Like I can have a quick conversation with my daughter who's in Daytona beach, but I don't have to you know Her phone doesn't always have the best reception on where she is on campus Got it But as long as she's in wi-fi and and even though wi-fi calling is on sometimes it just drops me into voicemail Or it doesn't sound as well But never had a problem with walkie-talkie on the watch interesting and if she's in class she can just refuse it Okay, so your voice just doesn't just start. No, you don't know. Yeah Yeah, okay, they get a notification and they can they can deny you they can engage or not Yeah, all right. Oh, I uh, maybe I need to to reintegrate with that, you know It's like the old uh, I forget which company it was but it used to drive you nuts They had the walkie-talkie on their cell phone. Remember that you used to hear everybody's both sides of the conference They just like please stop stop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was it? No, it wasn't nokia Nextel bram and roe nextel. That's it totally. Yeah in the live dot mackeekup.com chat bram and roe for the win And brian 89 44 as well. Yeah, nice Nice. All right, uh, we have a question from listener john He's having some weird issues here I'm gonna find it here so that I so that I have it here. I know Well, maybe I don't have it. Oh, I'm looking in your questions. John. No wonder. I can't find it. All right um Listener john says, uh, I've long had an issue with battery drain during sleep on my laptops And and I want to I'm emphasizing the plurality of that word First it was happening with my old macbook pro from 2016 But then the same thing was happening. I'll be considerably more slowly with my new m2 macbook air Oh, he's got one of those m2 airs john. Oh my those m2 airs um I remembered that you guys talked about this issue a long time ago But was never annoyed enough to do anything about it until now I looked back in the mgg archives and found what I was looking for back in mgg 901 from two years ago You talked about this issue and how you used a pmset Command with a grep for wake requests to look at the pmset log And I'll put the command in the show notes so that you folks don't have to guess at it Uh But you go to the terminal and you you issue this command and it will show you the power management log Uh and filter it down to only those entries that have the term wake requests, which is a handy thing to see Uh, he says I ran this and came up with what I suspect is why even my new macbook air loses battery when it's asleep It will go from fully charged to dead in two weeks if I let it now That's that's the case on a new air because the battery life is so good Um, my guess is it was happening in a matter of hours on his 2016 Uh, he said but running the command he shows that it's waking up You know multiple times a minute or at least every minute or two and the um That what i'm seeing in common with all of these Is that it is finding a uh, I need to I need to see it here. It's it's finding a dhcp lease renewal on a on on a yeah, obviously way too regular bases You if you're having this problem, you will find something different But look for what's common to most of the wake requests You will see some wake requests that are just the system doing its normal wake up You know that happens once an hour or two to check on certain things in that whole app nap deal or Power nap. Yeah, maybe it's power nap. I don't know. Yeah, yeah You know checks your mail in the background every now and then and those sorts of things But it shouldn't be waking up every minute And if it is that's a problem dhcp lease renewal that that's when your mac goes and gets Uh and or confirms its ip address from your router This should be happening, you know, maybe once every six hours, maybe once every 24 hours It does not need to be doing a dhcp lease renewal every minute Generally speaking, it's your router That tells your computer How often to renew It's lease your router will say okay. I'm giving you this ip address and it's good for six hours Uh if you still are on it, you know at the end of that six hours come back to me and you know Either renew that or i'll give you a new one or i'll i'll tell you no your your your your time here is done So, you know troubleshooting that part of it is sort of a whole different thing I would go I would look at the router and see if you have some very very low lease setting I'm guessing he probably doesn't but that's a good thing to confirm The other thing I would look at is how many How many devices do you have versus how many ip addresses are in your reservation pool because it's possible that your router is saying Yeah, I've got too many people asking for addresses So i'm going to force everyone to just keep renewing all the time because i've got to expire some in order to let the new People in like it there's a lot of guesswork obviously in what i'm proposing here But something is causing your computer to think that it needs to renew now And if it's his router it should not be happening somewhere else if he's on a neighbor's Oh, that's a good point. Yeah try connecting to a different router. Yeah, yeah and see if it see if the same thing happens Yeah, um, you could set a fixed ip address When you're home, but the problem is then that fixed ip address comes with you when you Go somewhere else, but that's that would be my test Honestly, if I if I couldn't I say honestly I need to learn to replace that word with candidly in my vocabulary because it turns out I have been honest with you All day so far like I have yet to lie to any of you Today, so there's no reason to to to couch my next phrase as far as all of you know, honestly, yeah Candidly If I were there solving this problem The first thing I would do is look at the router and make sure there's no setting The second thing I would do is set A fixed ip address on the computer not a dhcp reservation on the router But a fixed ip address on the computer turn off dhcp Put the thing to sleep wait 10 minutes turn it on or wake it up And look at this log again and see if it's still happening because it definitely shouldn't be happening If you're telling it not to use dhcp for your uh for your ip address Dave you may have said it. How did john get to this log again? Yeah, so there's a there's a command that I will uh pull up for and and put in the show notes But it's it's pmset dash g log pipe grep wake requests I I set it fast because I really don't expect any of you to try and If you if if that makes perfect sense to you then great, you know what to do forehead slap, right? But if it doesn't no worries go to macgeekab.com or go to mgg.fm 955 which will bring you right to the show notes for this episode And you will see it right there at the 46 minute and 32 second mark in the show notes I have I've confirmed that it will be there and you just copy and paste that right into your terminal And then you will get to see uh your wake request log honestly Candidly It's a good thing to do Because if you're not having problems now you get to learn what normal looks like Um And and that's not a bad thing so that when you do look at this when you're having a problem Your brain, you know, hopefully you remember a little bit and you're like, oh, yeah Well, these are normal, but this no no no like this this is bad. I ain't normal Oh There you go pointing to all of us. He's pointing to to to his uh to the three of us. That's right. Yeah, this ain't normal. That's right That he's being honest about all right. Um Any thoughts on that john where I was looking around in this machine. Where do you set the dhcp lease? Renewal time your router sets that That's that's that's set by the router. I think you can manly go in and renew the lease right But your computer doesn't get to decide the lease length the router decides the lease all right So it's somewhere in my euro app Yeah, yeah or not like I you might not be able to control it a lot of routers Don't give you the ability to to set the lease time They just pick one and and decide you shouldn't need to worry your pretty little head about it Yeah, because because in john's case. I mean it it's doing it way too often. So i'm like, well, where can I Tell it not to do that. Well, and that's why I said you go check the router, but but again My guess is his router. I think he's using a tp link deco mesh system And I don't think his router even lets you change it let alone interesting Yeah, I say if did then maybe someone inadvertently put in 60 thinking 60 minutes, right, right. Yeah, exactly Exactly, and that's possible. Yeah, if it's set by seconds or whatever, which is probably why they most routers don't let you mess with that Some do certainly certainly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right, um, we have a a bit of a psa from pc unix in our In our discord there and he got a new apple tv and He says when I set it up I use the one home screen setting which transfers all your apps, but not your settings I remembered just about everything except to assign a home kit room And because it was not assigned to a home kit room Home kit was unable to see it and made it unable to set my home pod stereo pair as its default output So the psa is when setting up your new apple tv 4k mind sitting in a box I I have not set mine up yet the one that I ordered the other day, but uh, but it's there and so we will um We will but I will I will make sure to set a room even though I don't use the home pod stereo pair as my thing It's it's handy to have that room configured Well, because you need to be able to tell the s lady hate do this or and it also finds it, right? Yes more easy when you're trying to do screen sharing what? Oh Right Which one? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right You know, we usually do that straight to our tv because our tv supports airplay 2 Um airplay 2 also I should say yeah. Thank you. Uh, but uh, yeah. Yeah Uh, your tv supports airplay 2 now, correct john Yes, yeah, and do you uh, do you do you wind up using that regularly? Um, I use it mostly To play videos that I have on my laptop. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Do you find? um Because your setup is similar enough to to mine in that regard where you know, if you're airplaying to your tv your tv isn't Making sound you have your external device that is fed from your tv to make sound So when you do that like if you're on you know, you youtube for example, and you say oh, I I want to play this video on my tv Do you ever have Oh, do you frequently have issues where the sound will not play over airplay 2 because I see this occasionally and it's inconsistent, but um The only issue that I've had is that The sound doesn't quite sync properly if I'm using a non apple video player. I'll have to try this again Oh Yeah, yeah, if I tried to use a you know like vlc Uh, the the audio was way out of sync if I used quick time player Everything was great. So interesting. I have to revisit that Yeah, no, but I have had issues with um Yeah with airplay. Yeah Yep, okay. Yeah, I'm sorry you said something because now I'm gonna have that problem. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's right We've cursed all of you. You're welcome. I guess feedback at macgeekab.com if you have any trouble That's where chris sent in his question speaking of videos He says I've looked many times for and I think this is a geek challenge. I have some ideas But I I don't have the answer Maybe one of you guys does or or hopefully someone in the community here does Um, I've looked many times for a basic video editor and haven't found the right thing What I seek is a mac app that can trim the ends of a video or take out sections of a video But do it very simply and quickly quick time player has the issue of not liking a lot of media types Otherwise, it actually does these things pretty well mpeg stream clip Another app has the issue of being so darn slow to respond to user input And so many other apps including iMovie want to import the videos or ask you questions about formats and then require an export or Transcode process so tedious I want to maintain the original format of the video in question. Isn't there something that will do trimming efficiently? It also Uh, I if it also had the ability to combine videos That would be fantastic. But if I had basic video trimming, I would be happy Yeah, I I use quick time player for this every week. I download the video from stream yard for the For the you know for the uh the show and I trim the Certainly the intro off so that the time stamps on that match the time stamps that I give to Sadie So she can find things and cut and all that good stuff And that works for me with whatever format I download from stream yard. It's not an mov file It's an mp4 container But whatever's in that container It is readable by quick time and I don't have a problem with it But I I do understand that quick time doesn't you know do everything Uh vlc doesn't do editing john, right? Uh, I haven't tried it. I don't think so Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if it does and we just don't know so, uh I'm eager to see those answers come in But yeah pick me pick me p Pete Hey, have you guys ever heard of this thing called set app? Oh, yeah, we talk about that occasionally on the show every now and again just every week or so Yeah, uh, there's an app in there called capto Oh Capto does screen capturing you can do the entire screen you can do sections You know just a window on the screen that you can set it to what you want And it has a nice little editor at the bottom for that very thing Interesting, but is it only are you only able to edit screen captures or can you take existing video? I'm sure you can import Most video files. I have I haven't tried but I think you can yeah, and then I've also found Uh iMovie is so much more powerful than it used to be But you have to export from there when you finished editing share. Yeah shares an mp4 And so you're losing in theory you're losing quality because it's doing a transcode. Yeah Um, I think I think there is one lossless way in that which will give you gigabytes But then I what I frequently do is then just use handbrake to get it down to sure Manageable file sizes, but if you want it completely lossless. Yeah, then that I think iMovie I think it'll send out a dot mov Well, it'll send out a dot mov, but but the the video mov is just a container of of you know, whatever you're stuffing in it Just like mp4 And and I think it and he lost us a vi What's no no lossless is we're not doing transcoding there the yeah, this is a good question though Because all of the things I think avi, but certainly mov and and mp4 are are just containers Yeah, and so they can have anything inside them In fact, you can have multiple things inside them and you can have multiple audio tracks and all of that stuff but The the the concern that chris has is he wants something where he can trim the video And then just save it without re-encoding the video I really what he's looking for is something like fission, which is from roga miba for audio, right but for video You know when I need to do more than what quick and quicktime player will do this You know and it and like I said, it's what I do and it's what he uses when a video will work with it I use da Vinci resolve when I need to do something More in depth, but that's like iMovie you've got to import the the file in but da Vinci resolve It's it's the they follow this whole freemium model where What most of us would want to do with it is free like you download the software and it's free. It's it's like final cut Uh for for anyone that doesn't that doesn't do this professionally But as soon as you get into the features that you would need for professional use Then you pay and it's not terribly expensive. You know, it's because it's got to compete with final cut, but um but yeah that uh But but that's not going to solve chris's problem. Yeah, I know so i'm looking at cap toe It it will import and I I don't know what limitations it will but it'll only send it down in the dot mov or dot mp4 Which is fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that's the other thing is quicktime Certainly it can't open every format, but it can open most of them And I've found that if I take a video file that quicktime doesn't want to open and rename it from dot whatever to dot mp4 Then quick time will open it. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's like oh, okay It's just a it's just a container and and the flip side is true when I need to upload Uh like I when we do our ad reads separately and I build videos for them so that They're they they're happy our stream yard doesn't accept dot mov files, which is what quick time uh outputs But I use I just read I don't do any transcoding I rename the file from dot mov to dot mp4 and I upload it to stream yard and obviously they work just fine so yeah, it's um Yeah, I don't know like so. Yeah, I would love to hear if anyone has a thought on this because Um, it would be good to know of a video editor that uh, that does lossless stuff So feedback at mac geek gab dot com And now I get to talk about our sponsor collide Collide is an endpoint security solution that uses the most powerful untapped resource in it Do you know what it is? 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It's a small free app in the app store for the mac called velja sure okay Uh as an aside, uh, all right by cindray soar who's man Sorry if i got that wrong uh as an aside cindray is a prolific open source developer Most web developers will be familiar with him since his open source work is part of many projects we work on um So velja is a browser picker. What's a browser picker? It's a mac app That you set as your default browser so that when you click on a link it typically opens it up in the browser um velja will intercept it and present you with a menu of the browsers you've configured it can do other cool things like automatically opening google meet links in chrome um And it's available for free in the app store and we will give you the link to it um It's certainly not the only browser picker app. It does something i've not found in any other browser picker It allows you to choose the chrome profile to open not just the browser Uh, that's a big deal for me because I have three chrome profiles even each with a different use case. Sure. Um A personal profile work profile in a performance profile um So I gotta start yeah, I gotta start using a browser picker because for exactly that like well You know what like you found john when you opened stream yard or evie mux or whatever In safari and it it munged your system if you had just set You know that to open in chrome it would have bypassed it. I I gotta do this because like yeah google meet links I hate running google meet in safari. It's a disaster But it's great, you know, I'll run it an edge and that's fine. So yeah, do you do either of you use a browser picker John do you use one? No, no, okay Clearly you need to based on our experiences with uh with having links open in the wrong browsers. So Yeah, Pete, do you use one? I don't I generally know that, you know, for instance, we use stream yard I know I want to run that chrome so I'll open chrome and do it that way But I'm you know, I'm the browser picker in my house. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, exactly So yeah, it'd be nice to have something that did it for me What I what I dislike is that when I have a calendar event that's like, oh, we're doing this in google meet Instead of just clicking it in my calendar and knowing that it's going to open I have to go into the calendar dig into the details of the event right click on Copy link exactly. Yeah, and or open it in safari have safari start asking me Do you want to let it use your microphones? Did you know dispatch with those go to the you know command L copy then go into the I think it'd be I gotta clearly if velia velja, whatever it is. It's free. I'm in so as soon as the show's over I'm installing it. I'm I would I would do it now, but it probably seems like a really really really bad idea Yeah, what could go wrong? What could go wrong? Listener David brings us to Yet another thing from anchor I feel like cool stuff found is you know on average about 30% stuff from anchors portfolio of products and And rightly so I have no issue with this I you know, I always have a hesitation when I realized that wow, we're talking about, you know x a lot but I think they just make good stuff he He is recommending or telling us about the anchor three to one, which is a 20 watt power strip With three usb ports and three outlets and what's cool about this is He says it solved the problem that I had with a very busy outlet near my sofa What it does is it you know plugs into the wall and there's a cord that brings you to the You know to the the this cube is really what it is and the cube means that you don't have plug contention And you've got three outlets one on each side of a cube and then on another side of the cube You've got two usb a ports and one usb c port. So you've uh Yeah, I like this is fantastic. I like this thing. That's it's it's you know anchor They put a lot of thought clearly into What the form factor needs to be to make something useful Right. Yeah, because how many times do you have a power strip and you can't plug everything in you need because The transformers or yeah, exactly. Yeah, I do buy a bunch of things and and I'll find a link. I'll put it in the show notes, but I Uh, I find that like here in the studio, you know, I have people coming over all the time and the guitar players Every one of their pedals has like wall warts and they would just fill up power strips So I anytime I put a power strip here I'm sure you can see one behind you Pete Into the power strip. I will plug like three of these three prong Six inch extenders right and then boom, you know, you're good to go and it works and it works Yeah, and people are like, oh, I didn't plug into that outlet because it's busy and it's like well Just look please. Yeah, come on. They're black, which is the problem. I need to get them and like, you know Bright green or something so people see. Oh, yeah, okay. That cord's not going anywhere. It's open Yes, that cord's not going anywhere. Yeah, so thanks for that David. Yeah, no, this is um The anchor knows what they're doing next on the list is 20 watts doesn't seem to be a lot Wow, I mean for charging your phones and your ipad and every I mean this is What do you what do you need to charge with Um, I mean your phone's not going to charge it any faster than that Uh, okay And and I will offer this I've done it occasionally It it will charge your laptop overnight when it's closed and it's off. Yeah. Yeah, it's not going to it's not going to charge it While you're working. Well, no, no, no, no. Yeah. No, I wouldn't use this for the laptop But it's 16 bucks. Yeah, you want to buy a hundred watt charger. You're not going to get that for 16 bucks Yeah, I I buried the lead on the on the price on that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, this is this would be for your phones and your ipad Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll slow your rate of descent on the yeah And it it will it will slow your rate of descent. I like that That's a good pilot term. Sure. Yeah, it's good If you want to listen to more pilot talk, uh, check out so there I was dot us That's Pete's show where he interviews some of the most fascinating people who happen to be pilots that I've ever heard of We're having some fun. I know and it not all pilots. We have a drill instructor. All right. That's right. That's right We're gonna get a mechanic on soon. Oh Fascinating. Oh interesting Albert brings us to another cool stuff found here. This is This might be my favorite cool stuff found of the week He says, uh, I found this cool usb to usb c usb c to usb c cable It not only indicates that you are connected, but it displays the power Uh, and it it so it is a charging cable He says I haven't yet used a power meter to verify its reading But it seems accurate. He says I've seen it go up as far as 80 watts, which makes sense Um, he says it doesn't pass video and I can't run my monitor with it. So it's you know, it's it's not a usb 3 cable or whatever. It's a power cable For 20 bucks and it's got a power meter built right into it right and and like right into the edge of it I think it's that's it's Slicker than a mouse's ear. Yeah, I thought mine was cool because it had a little green light that told you there was power there And this has that too. Yeah, it tells you exactly how much power Exactly. It's it's it's more than one green light dump to the watt. Yeah Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Did you order one of these yet, john? Um I already got A usb c power meter Right. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, same But you know, it's cool to have it just right there on the cable I I bought one of these to have on the couch near the laptop because the Power brick is way behind the couch and it's a long cable, but I I yank it and sometimes it Uh It pulls out of the other end and I don't know that and I plug my laptop into charge and it's muted So I don't expect to hear the sound right and I go to sleep and I wake up the next day and my laptop's dead So having this with the yep, it'll tell me it's doing it. That's what I like to see I wish I wish like I liked it the you know the old old old magsafe cables had the little light on them Great. Yeah, right like yours. You know, you said you've got a cable just with the light Yeah, it's it's nice to know that it's charging I wish they'd go back to aren't they in some cases going back to magsafe Um Or no, is it all usbc? Well, no, they know that the new laptops have What they call magsafe, which is new magsafe like magsafe 3 or something Yeah, so to still prevent tripping because I've correct managed to pull my usbc laptop off the table. Yeah. Yeah That was brilliant and they got away from it Yeah Yeah, yeah, I mean I get why it's like it's usbc is It's nice to have things that are universal. Yes, that I'll give you I'll give you that the universality of usbc is Yeah, um, I yeah, I find it handy, you know, it's yeah, so Fun stuff. We've got lots more cool stuff found to talk about We will make sure to prioritize that next week because uh, it's that time of the year when buying like That's a great stocking stuffer that uh, that usbc cable with the power. I mean, it's you know, it's 20 bucks So it's a little more than you'd spend for yourself on a usbc cable necessarily, but it's a cool thing to have So why not just build it into this is the cube for another five bucks? You know, I know that'll be huge in my daughter's dorm room. Yep Yep Yep, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for a lesson that that was like 1699 that little cube thing Oh, I thought it was 24. No, I think it was uh, it was The the anchor here the the little 20 watt thing. Yeah, I'll find it where you can find it 1599 so 16 bucks. Yeah. Yeah, I'll take two right Yeah, handy Ah All right. Well that time has come here. We are yet again Got anything else to uh to share before we Before we say our goodbyes It's nice to share it is nice Thank you for listening everybody again, not normal. Not normal here. Nothing normal about it. Thanks for listening Thanks for hanging out with us. Thank you for Sending in all of your questions and your tips and your cool stuff down. 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