 What about cashing in some of your holidays for money? Well, I don't have huge objections to that, as long as the decision has freely arrived at by the worker and the worker is not pressured to do it. If you've got that safe garden, then if somebody chooses to do that, then I'm quite relaxed about it. You stated that you were relaxed about selling or the government's plans to allow workers to sell the fourth week of their holidays. You don't stand by that anymore, do you? No, what I said is that of a range of things... Let's talk about being able to sell the fourth week. No, listen to what I'm saying, Paul. Paul, listen to what I'm saying. I know what you're going to say. I'm saying that we are not in favour of trading. Are you for it or against it? Are you for it or against it at the moment? Yes or no? We are against it. You? We are against it. You know, we are now against it. We were quite relaxed. The word relaxed you. No, we are against it now. Don't get an issue out of something that's not there. I've never tripped up. I've never tripped up. I've never tripped up. I've never tripped up. I've never tripped up.