 Next question is from he harness. What are your thoughts on saunas love love love them saunas? You know there was a study there was actually several study that showed that Regular sauna use reduced all-cause mortality By a significant percentage it was like 20% or 25% was something like that like all-cause mortality Just from using a sauna something that we don't consider is you know obviously your body adapts to your environment For example if you're very sedentary you'll you never lift anything heavy You're gonna lose lots of muscle losses strength because your body you're not exercising those muscles in way that Tells your body we need this muscle, okay? Your body's ability to acclimate to temperature Cold and hot is like a muscle and if you don't train it you actually lose this ability Because humans for most of human history we evolved with radical changes in temperature just in a single day Like the more it would be hot during the day cold in the morning cold at night You're forced to adapt to it. Yeah now It's like it's always 70 degrees always 70 degrees in my house no matter what as a matter how hot or cold it is Our everything's regulated. It's always the same and we lose this ability and because we've lost that ability We actually have health detriments as a result. So sauna just like with cold therapy It's like exercising the body in fact you can compare using a sauna to the effects of mild exercise Actually, we'll show that a 20-minute session of sauna is like doing I remember Max Marzo kind of bringing that up as an example Is that it's basically like a very low form of exercise? Yes, you know that your body's sort of responding to and it's heating up the core temperature and then And of course Dr. Ronda Patrick talks about this all time in terms of heat shock proteins And then you know the cold therapies the cold shock proteins, but so there's lots of benefits to it physiologically that you know, we benefit from I Still attribute this as of all the things we've talked about and experimented with and and brought to this podcast over the last six years And if you go back far enough, you've heard me talk about my experience going through the whole hot cold contrast I never trained like this before and I don't remember. I think it was right when Wim Hof was getting really popular we were all interested in his content reading and listening to his information and And I actually went and decided to apply it and I was messing with cryotherapy ice pass And then the sauna and doing this hot cold contrast. I was doing it in my showers Since then and I'm not as consistent as I'd like to be like today just being completely transparent, right? Although I still do this. I never let like months go by without challenging this where before I went my whole life I'd never I never before the podcast in my 20s or whatever Intentionally went to a sauna and then a freezing cold I used to make fun of it. Yeah, when people would ask me What's the benefit of the sauna? Nothing. You just sweat. Don't waste your time. Never did either Since then I I've gone on a streak. Okay of of how little I get sick It not only do I rarely ever get sick anymore if I do get sick It's short-lived. It's not as bad I used to get sick all the time and if you guys remember even when we first started the podcast I was before I started doing this after that. It's never been the same for me So personally I'm a massive fan of it They actually have studies on that they show people who use saunas regularly suffer from common viral infections like the cold at far lower rates So it's it's got I mean proven immune-boosting benefits I mean, I tell you what if you had Space in your home and you wanted to invest in a few things that would have the biggest bang for the buck that invested in terms of Your health you would have a barbell dumbbells adjustable bench and a sauna literally and that sauna having red light therapy Attached yes, would be the most ideal. Yeah, right or throw your jubilee inside. Yeah, jubilee side. Yes some form of it