 I can see... Hi, Corbin. Sure, stupid rakes. I'm Corbin. I'm Rick. And you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter. Oh, juicy. I think we're also on Patreon. Follow the official Twitter account. Follow the official 2.0 channel as well. Thank you so much. It's true. I'm glad that Ashley moved to the new location too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really kind of you. Thanks, Ash. But, uh... Something you've been asking for since the inception of... The inception of the... This is right now, as it stands, the longest... No. The second longest from request to reaction we've ever had. No, I am. I think I know there's one that's probably longer. What? Monochronica. Money? Oh, no. People don't... I mean, this has been more requested before the watch. Oh, this has been more requested for sure. Yeah, but I mean, that was one of our first reactions. One of the first reactions. But yeah, this has been... That has been an interview. I think the minute we reacted to Gully Boy, this was one of the first films that people said you should react to. We do get to them. Yes, we do. Very slowly, but we do. Also, the move has made it so our watching movies... Yes, slow down a little. Hopefully it's... And we also had said, we've got to get to this. Let's wait and we'll do this closer than Halloween time. So we finally did it. We did it. Go us. Came out last year. Tumbad. I want to read this on an outside phone. I do. A mythological story about a goddess who created the entire universe. The plot revolves around the consequences when humans build a temple for her first born. Pretty accurate. Yeah. Yep. And it's directed by Rahi Anil Barbe, if I'm pronouncing it correctly. And writer, producer, director Anand Gandhi. So there's two directors on this. I don't know what that means. Nobody I recognized when watching it, did you? No. Yeah. It's starring, I believe. I'm trying to find the main guy. I think that's him. Sofam Shah? Yeah, I think that's the main guy. That could be wrong. But, yes. Oh, and I realized there's two things I wrote down as notes. I remembered one of them, but there's a second one. I want off my phone here. So, let me grab this. Okay, we're good. I'm just going to find exactly the two things I wrote down. I'm going to wait for you to find it so I can cut out to that point. There it is. Okay. So, this is a movie that we waited to watch. One, because it looked scary to us. Yeah, which I remember we were going to watch it. And you started to watch it. And because Corbin knows me, he sent me a message that said, you're not going to want to watch this. It's just not your cup of tea for your kind of film. I watched about the first 10 minutes. Right. A few months back. And so, sorry, we could have had it in a while ago. We could have, but I'm glad we waited. Yeah. And yes, there's the two things. I've said this before on the channel. The two things I don't like on films is my least favorite genre is horror because for the most part, many horror films are made brainlessly. And it's the easiest of the genres to do. It doesn't require a lot of talent to scare somebody anymore than it requires a lot of talent to fart and make people laugh. But the, I don't mind horror and scary. In fact, I do like horror and scary as long as it doesn't go into the glorification of the demonic. That, for me, is the categories. I can pull it off to the side. And I also don't like outright porn in my movies. So I think you thought that maybe this fell into that category for me. Well, because at the first 10 minutes, it's very different than the rest of the film. It is. And so it kind of changed a little bit. So sorry about that. I think it's the right time for us to see it. Yes. Yeah. I actually really, really enjoyed this film. I actually did too. You know what it reminds me of? Guillermo probably really likes this film. Yeah. It'd be interesting to see if you saw it. It reminds me a lot of Guillermo del Toro film. Yeah. It has a little bit of differences. It tends to be, obviously, there's a lot of mythological stuff, if that's the right word, for Indian mythology. Which is, I promise you, even with that, oh, by the way, spoiler review. If you haven't seen this, which most of you probably have, but if you haven't, I go see it because we're about to just talk about everything in it. Even though it starts off with that story, which was helpful, telling us about the origin of everything going on, there's still a ton of this. I know, just like with Natsumrat, there was some stuff mythologically and culturally and everything else that was just way above our heads. Yeah. It was mostly a story about the curse of this family and the greed that they have. It's really much just about the greed, like the opening line from Gandhi. Yeah. Obviously, I think it was something along the lines of there's enough for everybody in the world, there's not enough for everybody's greed. Correct. And I really had an aha moment at the very, very end. Because as I want to understand, that's one of the biggest things for me in any situations, I really want to understand something. So I found myself struggling so hard to try to understand stuff that I'm not going to understand right now. Same thing with Natsumrat. I need to learn more about the culture. I need to learn more about the mythology. And it was at the very, very end I went, oh, got it. So before we get to the end, ultimately I would say you agree that this is a, if you're filming the blank, do see it, don't see it. I would say this is a do see it. Oh, 100% see it. Yeah, absolutely do see it. Yeah, 100% see it. It's very, very right for you. Light it a lot. The differences between the Guillermo, that's the close thing I can't compare it to. His is a little more monster empathetic. Correct. Because he loves monsters. He loves monsters. Yeah. But this did have the monster aspect too, but that's just not the story it was given. It was more about the, this is a mythological type. And unlike anything we've seen. Unlike anything we've seen. Something like that, right? Yeah. Unlike anything we've seen. Very unique, very original, which is why I think a lot of people were wanting it for the Oscars. Yeah. I'm not going to get into that, but I think the Gully Boy has a better chance of getting the nominations in this everyone. Yeah. Even if this had a ton of like artisticness and it was really original, but we still stand with that. But I really loved the, one, the acting was just brilliant. Yeah. Across the board. The opening I thought was fantastic. Yeah. Really well set up of, well they're feeding this woman. That's not a woman in there. And it's just her and the kids. And then the kids are having to do it alone. I really, it was a very interesting, because it opened with her giving basically, pleasure to them basically, right? Hi. And it's really, what is this relationship? What is going on? Yeah. And so then a bunch of stuff obviously happened. And then you got to see the monster, essentially. And great script writing in the beginning, whereas many times we've been upset with the laziness of script writing, because at the outset, they just tell us what's going on. Tell us the relationships. They didn't do that in this. Like you figured out. You had to figure it out. You didn't, you thought, okay, they're related in some way. And that's clearly, they're related in some way. And you, you didn't get to be told that. Yeah. The colors in this were brilliant. It obviously different from like a Sanjay. Very different color. Very different. This is like deep, like almost like, I don't know the word for it. It's Guillermo's style. But Tim Burton's style in terms of dark beauty. Correct. Right? Correct. That's no other way. Yeah. That was one of the other things that didn't pull it into the level of being more horrific for me. Yeah. It didn't, it didn't feel like it was trying to be horrific. It felt like it was trying to be scary. Yeah. And it, it, even there were some shots with the lighting. I felt like the director and the production design team all together, they were really trying to make something beautiful. Yeah. You know? And it wasn't Sanjay kind of beauty. He has his own aesthetic. This is its own aesthetic that I thought matched the content. Yeah. I thought it was 100%. And the majority of the visual effects and makeup were great. And practical. Very, very good. I love it. Yeah. I love it when you do, because to do a story like this that has to do with some mythological monster, you have to, even though like you could like, oh, I can make a really cool looking with CGI, it never comes across as believable like practical does. No. Like there were some moments when there's a bunch. Yeah. There was a moment towards the end where the dad and the son are in there and there's multiples of them bouncing off the walls. I could see the CGI. It reminded me of like the initial CGI creations of Gollum and the First Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Where you go back and look at it and now you're like, oh yeah, I see the CGI. Yeah. But nothing. So it wasn't anything that pulled me out of the story. No. And that was such a unique thing that they did this whole story of, because I was like, so there's a treasure down. And I'm sure this is a story like a lot of Indians know. Right. Like it's a common mythological story, but we had no idea what it was. So I was trying to figure out so there's a treasure at the bottom of the well. It's cursed treasure, like Pirates of the Caribbean. Right. Like what's going on here? But like, so it's like a full on, not Greek, I know it is, but that's the only thing I can obey to do. Like Greek mythology. Yeah. Like there's just God or demons that you have to steal the coins from. Right. It was really unique in that aspect and so really interesting that you had to go down there each time. Yeah. You had to give them a bread that was in the shape of a child. Right. So it was really unique. And I watched it with my wife. She was like, I really, really enjoyed it. She was like, it was so sad to me. And which is something that, you know, she takes away, she has a really unique aspect to film. She sees the house. Like that's not what I took away from it, that it was sad. But she took away from the family aspect. Like this family has been ruined by their... Yeah. Greed. Yeah. That is the curse or the greed of the family. At the very, very end when the dad is burnt up and going to be dying. That's when I had the aha moment. And the two aha moments I had was these phrases, greed will consume you. That's the moral to the story. Greed, literally, that's what happened to him. And that's what was happening to... I forget what they're called. But remember when he had them go up and fall and they just... The dust and their appetite for what they were going after was also just pure greed. So everything that was motivated by greed, every being that was motivated by greed, whether you were a tree in the ground or the bread-eating demons or the... If that's what they were, I don't know what they were, or the humans, greed will consume you. And the other thing was the phrase, all that glitters isn't gold. The whole idea of the things that you truly value. But it took a while for me to get there. You probably got there a lot sooner than I did because I was trying so hard to remember everything of the mythology and just had to give up at one point. Because I thought, I'm not going to try... I was never trying to understand it. Yeah, I was always fighting to understand it. No, I was just like, you're going to tell me what I need to know because you're a film. So that's your job. And if you do your job correctly, I shouldn't need a lot of background information for the most part. For the most part. Except for the cultural underpinnings. Like for example, here in America, if you see certain films that are American-centric in terms of our storytelling, which is, if it's not American, it comes from Greco-Roman era. It's all westernized. There's not a lot you would have to do. We could easily pick up on the symbolisms of things that were from... Oh yeah, now I'm talking about that culture. Yeah. I kind of gave up on that a while ago with watching Indian cinema. Like, I don't get a lot of this. It's just something I have to accept and we're going to learn it. But I'm talking about the film. It has to give you the information, regardless of the culture. Right, your perspective. To get your story, I need to be told certain things in order to get it. And they told me that through the whole thing. Yeah. And so I didn't feel like I was... I was like, I'm not going to understand the Greek. We know it's not Greek mythology. Sorry. We keep calling it Eastern. Whatever mythology it was, I was like, you're going to tell me what I'm going to need to know. And they did. They did a phenomenal job at it. I thought the directors, I don't know what... One of the directors that are credited for this. It was. But in terms of the storyline, the acting, the originality, and the coloring. Yeah. And the coloring was really nice. And I would have liked to have seen this on a big screen. Yeah. I did enjoy the score even though it was very subtle most of the time. Right? Yeah. I feel it because I didn't notice it a lot. No. And this didn't, I don't think, require it. There was enough on the screen too. To give that suspense at certain times. You need that suspense of what's going to have who's in the room. Like, one of the most suspenseful parts is the beginning when you're trying to figure out what this hag is in the other room. Yeah. All the way up, the very start of it all the way up to when she has to leave because the son, that really great moment, he says, you shouldn't have done that because now something bad is going to happen and he falls out of the tree. And then she's taking him and he's left there alone with the hag and he has to go feed the hag. All of that was, I'm trying to remember what it reminded me of but it was, it's just top notch story time. Yeah. Top notch dragging out and I mean, if she's driving away you're thinking to yourself, this little guy is going to have to stay here at night and feed that hag back there. And I was, I was relishing the creepiness of that. Yeah. Like, I can't wait until he's going down the hall and I know and there were a couple of moments that got so, in your face, gory, like, when she's on top of him and pulls the nails out of his face and it's dripping all over him. I literally watched it. I'm like, dang. Yeah. You're going all out right now. Yeah. It was barely reminiscent of Guillermo's Pan's Labyrinth Yeah. In terms of like a lot of people really love, I don't know how long ago you watched that movie. But it's been a when it came out. Yeah. That's how long it's been since I've seen Pan's Labyrinth. That's one of my favorite films. Guillermo's one of her favorite directors, but the, it's actually quite gory if you remember. Yeah. For being such a, like it's a really sweet story, but it's also, it gets very uncomfortable. Dark and uncomfortable and so that's the thing I'm not saying I'm not comparing it to the film. No. I don't like that thing I am but that's just what I have to relish. This is what it closest reminds us to in our own experience. It's nothing like it. At all. Nothing at all, but this is the closest comparison we have. But I know you hate it when I do that. But yeah. Well the movie it doesn't remind me of 300. No. It doesn't remind me of not at all. Or Fast and Furious or Mission Impossible. No. No. But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed this film. I think like if you give it a second watch as well you pick up on a lot more and I think like if you give it a second watch as well you pick up on a lot more I'm sure would and obviously this is you guys this would be a fun one to watch with people who haven't seen it just to watch them respond. Like I'd love to watch this with Ashley Alexis and Micah. Micah would be like this all the time. Ashley and Alexis especially Ashley Ashley would be like oh yeah. Yeah. That's she pulls it Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would just love to sit and learn more. Like apparently this is also from other written works by I believe it's Narayan Dharap that the script comes from the writings of Narayan Dharap. I would really like at some point to be able to dive into some of this and understand a bit more of the original story behind this the mythology the fantasy whatever that is and then do another comparison of how well and I'd love to hear from you guys I think you're all going to say they did a great job because all we've gotten over and over again is please when are you going to react to Tumbad when are you going to react to Tumbad when are you going to react to Tumbad and how does this work translating stuff from this written work onto screen this cinematographer yeah was the cinematographer a header well no wonder it looks so good yeah and he works probably a lot with Vishal which Vishal knows how to use deep rich color absolutely and maybe that's why maybe Vishal uses them a lot and then this cinematographer is ridiculously good at that that's like the entire time it's one of those things it's just beautiful in a different way than we say beautiful in Sanjay's and other things right it's a dark beauty it's the only thing and the predominant color spectrum for this was really great uses of red really really great uses of red and it was such a when they're going down into basically the mother's womb right basically where they're going right it was really unique how they did it so they were climbing down but it looked like they were climbing up up right until they flipped the camera over and they did that every time to like you're in a different world different realm exactly so it's really unique and I love that it was really seamless the crane work I'm betting that it was as was the symbolism of the consumption that takes place like the consuming nature of the greed which begins with the hag who is who is first of all bound and chained but then when he comes back later she's actually become part of the ground and he has that laughing fit which is so macabre and twisted that was like oh grandma you've become one with a tree and the tree has grown through her and the agony of the being alone and having the thing consume you and then his buddy who becomes part of the womb in there and slowly becomes just eaten by it it's just the symbolism I'm sure we're missing a lot of it was really really good yeah that was really great thank you for your patience great halloween movie and oh yeah it really is yeah and they said they don't have a lot of those over in India yeah is halloween's not really celebrated yeah it is but not not like the other holidays no in fact they want they want to know that's one of the holidays that were repeated please do something and tell us more about what you guys do there on these holidays like halloween and thanksgiving they're not as familiar with that as they are for example Christmas many many people celebrate Christmas over there but halloween thanksgiving halloween is a pagan holiday you celebrate Satan halloween's a big one here yeah big one but yeah that was great thank you so much for the recommendation and thank you for your patience everybody I know we're going to get these comments of oh I can die now and I'd give it through and through it was an amazing film there was not really there was not a week act or there wasn't a week script part of the script I thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed this film I thoroughly enjoyed it I wouldn't give it an A plus simply because for me A plus films are the ones that I would put on my list of I never want to not you know I've got to recommend that Schindler's List is an A plus for me Braveheart's an A plus for me I would give this a minus which means I still liked it and I still would watch it and I still would recommend it but I wouldn't it's not a perfect movie to me well first of all it's not a universal movie in that I got lost in the storytelling the mythology and the background and the culture so as an audience member I couldn't become fully immersed in it to that extent so it's not universal immersion that can take place in it and then secondarily there were just some pacing things probably because of me trying to figure those things out it felt slow at times for me where I was often times with the movies I love the most I'm not even aware of the pacing of the film so because I was aware of the pacing and as good as the acting was there wasn't anything Oscar level in this for me it was very solid very believable I very much enjoyed it but it wasn't any I was never looking for anything Oscar worthy I was just looking for a really good performance I think you've given your head a lot I do admittedly I do but for me for me an A plus rating for something is like one of my favorite movies of all time it used to be that no that's just me yeah I know there's much movies I would probably never watch again but I think it's an A plus film really? yeah I don't have to watch a film over and over it's certain films that I think are C plus but I watch them over and over oh that's true the watch movies I know are D's that I watch over and over yeah there's a bunch of films I would never watch again let us know what other films we should watch and from to you next down in the