 Good evening. Good evening. My name is Rachel Sunshaw. I'm the Program and Development Coordinator here at the Library. And I'm thrilled to have all of you here. And I'm especially thrilled to have these people here this evening. So I'd like to welcome you, author Bill Mattson, and his wife, Mae. And crazy horse, who has ascended for the Clown Senior and his grandson, Phoenix. It's very special to have these presenters here with us tonight. And I'm just thrilled to see all of you here as well. I also want to thank Deb from Robinson Facts. She's reporting tonight's program for Orphan Media. So please help me welcome one of the presenters. I'm the author. And it took us 12 years to put together this book, another year to write, and then six months of corrections. And these kind of books belong to schools. Because... Absolutely. I'd like to see that I recognize our Native history. Just got to start with Christopher Columbus. That's a long before that. One of the first things that I realized when I met Africanette Floyd, I'm a documentary filmmaker. So part of this family lived on the Alamira. And so I went down to get a picture of the Alamira. On the map, it's the Morro River. And the reason why I was told it was a stable. So I went through the weeds with my camera and I saw two great big islands came up. One on the other side, one right down the river. And that's when I knew who I was called the Alamira. The Morro River didn't make any sense. The Morro Stowe River was the Alk River because it all came to water. The Cheyenne River was the Good River because I thought the water was clear and it tasted good. The Grand River was the river that was bigger than its banks because it flooded. In other words, the native name said it was there. When we changed the names, we didn't say anything. It was a subtle step back from the land, a subtle disconnect. My journey started before I was born. My dad was in the Southern Calvary during World War II. And he used to, and the drill sergeant used to ask, who on the island lived in Vidmore? He said the natives didn't. That was the wrong answer. It was punished for it. I heard this a lot as a kid. And he always wanted to write that wrong. And all his life, he'd talk about this. He wanted to write it. But life got delayed, raising a family or anything. He did make two trips up to the Black West. He was living in a Pacific Northwest. And he did make two trips. And at the end of his life, he tried to do it, but he got lymphoma. So on his deathbed, he asked me to do it. But at the time, it wasn't my direction. But you can't say no. So I said I would. This was 1998. I didn't know anybody in the plains. I didn't know anybody in the Midwest. Not even an acquaintance. So when you do that happens, you go on the internet. Which was in its infancy then, and dial-up work sometimes. And I did find a name of Eugene Wolfbio on the north of the Cheyenne Reservation. And that's in Montana. And so I called him out. I said, do you know how many stories there are about Vidmore? He said, yeah. Can I come out and get him from you? He said, sure. So I caught an airplane. I came out of Portland, Oregon. And I got an airplane to a building. I ran in the car. Got the land here. I don't think he expected me to show up. Because he shoved his lunch in his desk and said, what do you want? I said, well, I'm the guy from Portland that can't do a lot of the stories of that bad little Vidmore. Do you have him from me? No. I don't know if somebody does. And it took me into the thought that I was my great partner to write the books. And so I read these and walked away. So I did. I wrote about 300 books. This guy had a bibliography or this guy had a theory. And it ended up that this guy's bibliography. Now it's starting to become a fact. And also some of the more revered books. And this, I mean, for a fact, because of what I read through, it looks like Blackout Speaks a wooden leg. They spoke their language to a living children who told it to another speaking person and they wrote what they thought were said. And no chance to proofread it. No chance to change anything or anything that was misinterpreting. We're working with three of these brothers. It was six months of corrections and sometimes I felt there was no light at the end of the tunnel. So I know that for a fact. That was after I worked with him for 12 years. So after I wrote all these, I became very interested in Crazy Horse. I became kind of a hero to me. And being a documentary filmmaker, which is nothing more than something that doesn't have the money to make a feature film, I wasn't working on a script. So I wanted to get the real names of the women that raised Crazy Horse, but they weren't any of the books. So I figured, that's 125 years ago, somebody knows. And so I found out in 2001 I found somebody on the Cheyenne River Reservation which is in between Standing Rock and Pine Ridge. And he said he knew some people that knew the names of the women that raised Crazy Horse. That's all it took. I said, okay, let's make it a formula, let's get together. I flew out to rabbit city and got in the car and went to Cheyenne River and he stood me up. So now I had three days on my hands with nothing to do. So I thought, well, I've just been studying the history of the Code of Crazy Horse, not the cultural and spiritual. And there was a place called Bear Butte. And so I said, well, I'm going to go out there and see what's out there. And I figured all the spiritual would leave me at the top. Well, half way out, my dad spoke to me. He had gone for three years and he spoke to me. And he said, open your heart. And I knew with that man I needed to know the cultural and spiritual side of the Code of Crazy Horse. I would not be qualified to make a documentary, to write a book, to even discuss it. And so I went home. I read all the cultural books and all the spiritual books on the Code of Crazy Horse. They all had the ceremonies in them. They all said the ceremonies are this way. This is the only way. There's no other way. And they were all different. And so I decided to go back out there to South Dakota. And I went to Bear Butte again. And I met the head ranger there who's at Dakota. His name's Jim Jandero. He's still there. And I was explaining how I wanted to know the cultural and spiritual of the Code of Crazy Horse, more about it. And also the names of Crazy Horse's moms. They spent a whole year working on the script. And I really put everything I had into it. I mean, this was for my dad. It was a dying wish. And so I really worked at it. I agonized over every sentence and word. And so he said, yeah, I got something for you. Went back to his office and brought out Floyd's younger brother, Double War Eagle's number. So I called him. And he said, yeah, we've been waiting for your call. He knew you were coming from the west. I didn't tell him I was coming from the west. But that's the invitation. So I went out there. And I shook in my hand. I handed it to him. He read three words on it. He went on the table. I said, this is garbage. And I pretended like it wasn't her. And I had it on there. Crazy Horse wasn't it? And he wasn't. He was in his nose. But there were many other problems with it. So he said, we'll tell you the true story. If you have a good heart. So I was wondering how am I going to show that? We've got a few elders here. He said, we'll take you to the squadron. I said, I don't want to go there. So I went outside. Floyd started up the fire. And I saw people bringing wood. So I thought, well, I'm joining him. I brought some wood. And I was running with the wood. And I was sprinting with the wood. And I started standing back and watching me. And I remember their uncle saying, this guy kind of scares me. Because I was over the top with enthusiasm. Went in there. Went in to Sotlach. It was a great experience. I really, really liked it. Those of you who have been in Sotlach and know what I'm talking about, those who haven't, I would highly recommend that. Afterwards, I was listening to see how my heart had done. And the silence was deafening. And so we went inside and we were eating. I had to say, I wish I knew your language. I was saying, because I felt that good. And that same uncle, he hadn't gone in to Sotlach. He just brought in the hot rocks on the pitchfork. And I wouldn't close the doors. But he never got in. He said, they don't let me in there. Because I said, we're all hangered. So at that point, I realized that I had been accepted with that statement that crushed the ages that I felt I was walking on. And for the next 12 years, we went out to all the oral history sites. They had a landmark or a reference point. I took my camera and put pictures of them for relatives that couldn't be there. Couldn't make it out there. And also to put them into a documentary, which is six hours for a part documentary. So that's an all day project. And what I learned during this time is they knew their genealogy better than anybody has ever met. And it made me feel like I didn't know mine better. I'm focusing Norwegian and German. And so we got called to Norway by the publisher to come over. And I was able to find my Norwegian roots and then Sweden. I found a family that my parents and grandparents didn't even know. So that was kind of emotional for me. And I was studying just like this. So I had a hard time getting through that. I was not always supposed to write this book. I was another gentleman that was supposed to write it. But he got called to Afghanistan. So they offered it to me. I was honored. And I accepted it. I accepted it. It's in the first person. Just the way they told it to me. And I tried to use my footprints that could. That's why I had violence on everything. As far as the spirituality, I wasn't 100% convinced. And one day, Floyd was building a new sweat launch. He said the whole of the coordination is going to sweat in there. And I looked at that. I thought that may be something that's kind of a dead fit. And so we went in there. There would be 10 of us. And there would be 12 of us in there. I thought this can't be the whole thing. So I didn't say anything. I never said anything about it at that. And then one day I went in there again. These five lacour men came out of the rocks. They didn't acknowledge me. They had a blanket over their shoulder. And over their shoulders in the face of the rocks except for the one on the left. He was in profile. In the sweat launch, there's four rounds. There's a ghost dark. And they open the door light, dark light. So the first time I went dark was when I saw that. So when they opened the door and the light came in, everything disappeared. I changed my position a little bit. I thought, well, maybe I had to sit just right to see that. And they closed the door again. And they came back. So they came back to the second round, the third round, the fourth round. So by this time I was very excited. The ceremony was going on. They didn't say anything. I was just balking all over. And afterwards I came up to Floyd and I said, Floyd, I know what you're talking about. This is after the ceremony was over. I know what you're talking about. I understand how the whole nation can be in there. I understand now. You say, yeah, we know what you saw. Because you doubted us. So they showed themselves. And so I always remember that. I close my eyes and see it pretty much every time. It was indelible. The person on the left, two years later, had been a book out of print. That was not one of the 300 I had read. It was a book called Pesters Conquered by William Bordeaux. And there was a drawing. And the drawing was of Bokula, Old Man Crazy Horse. So that's the person that was on the left. As soon as I saw it, I knew that was the person. This journey, the last 20 years, I couldn't think of a better journey to have been on for the last 20 years. With my dad asking me to do this, I started out thinking it was an obligation. But now I realize it was a gift. So with that, I'd like to hand it over to Floyd, Tom Sr., grandson of Crazy Horse and administrative of Crazy Horse Estate. Thank you. Thank you for coming this evening. When we were told to do this, 2001, but for our family, it started in 1990. When this Hornell Brewing Company that made the Crazy Horse small liquor, just what the Crazy Horse Estate took to federal court in 1990. But before it went to court, my father, who's in front of the book, Edward Clown, he was the pipekeeper for the Crazy Horse family. So the work that he did on this court case, where we won this case, 2001, the work that he'd done on this case, which he wanted, but he never got to see this go to federal court. He was left for the other side in 1987. So three years later, this went to federal court in 1990, at the Hornell Brewing Company. 2001, in his federal court case, the federal judge awarded it back to the family the name, everything pertaining to my grandfather's name. And this is when 2001 was when we were told it was time for truth now. No more assumptions. So grandson, tell them who you are. I stood up for my father in this court case and the federal judge said, before this court case is done, we must determine the blood heirs of the Crazy Horse Estate. So 2001 in this court case, we showed a bloodshed on the paternal side of our family, Crazy Horse's family, where we showed where my dad was and where I was. And because that's how the government looks at us on the paternal side of our families, the male side, that's what we showed in federal court. Because we knew that the acting administrator at that time, 2001, we knew he wasn't from our family. And federal law says, if you're going to be an administrator of an estate, you have to be blood from that estate. That's federal law. So when we showed his bloodshed in his federal court case, at that time, nobody in this world had ever seen the bloodshed of my grandfather, paternal. So when this acting administrator looked at this bloodshed and that he wasn't on there, he said, I'm on the maternal side, the mother side. So we showed the maternal side of the bloodshed of my grandfather, Crazy Horse. And when he looked at this, he seemed that he wasn't on there either. So since 2001 to now, we're still waiting for, at that time, 2001, the federal judge appointed three administrators. So I was appointed administrator for Shine River Agency or Reservation. That's where the blood family's from. So I was appointed as administrator for my blood family from Shine River. And at that time, they recognized Pine Ridge administrator and Rosebud administrator. So 2001, the federal judge said, when you see these blood trees, Pine Ridge, Rosebud administrators, you need to make a blood tree like what Shine River did. And this is what we've been waiting on since 2001 to now, waiting for the proof of their blood identity to our family. 2001, when we were told to stand up for my grandfather, under the federal law, what they recognized as a legal blood tree, you have to use six documents. And the first document is a probate which is a death certificate. And in our research, we found that they didn't keep probates of our people until 1904 and 2005 is when they start keeping probates of our people, which is a death certificate. And before these probates, when we were put on these federal agencies because the federal government, when they made these federal agencies, they made them by blood families. So they recognized enrollment and allotment of these federal agencies as proof of your identity by blood. And then before these federal agencies, they recognized census, ration listing and church records as legal documents proving our identity under the federal law. So 2001, this is what we used these six documents to make the blood tree for my grandfather, crazy horse, paternal and maternal. So this is what, at that time, Pine Ridge and Rosewood administrators, you need to make a legal blood tree because at that time they were bringing books in the back of these books. They'll have a tree unknown and like this on these books. So the federal judge said, that's a tentative tree. Anybody could do that. Just write names in. And what's a legal tree? You have to have a birthday and you have to have a day of your death or demise. And then you have to show proof with these six documents. So this is what the administrators for Pine Ridge and Rosewood were told to do. And our family, when we went into hiding it was 1877 until 2001. Nobody knew of our family. So everybody that had been claiming my family and grandfather had had 124 years to show the proof who they are, what they've been claiming. And then 18 years after that. So really everybody has had 142 years to show the proof what they've been assuming for the last 142 years. And so when we were told to do this in 2001 when my grandfather said, it's time for truth, no more assumptions. My grandfather said, assumption is when you make something up. A story or anything. And then after all, when you tell it for so long, after all you think it's true when it's not the truth. That's an assumption. So 2001, when we showed this blood tree in this federal court case there was 3,000 blood family on the paternal and maternal side of my grandfather, Krajors. So as administrator, this is who I represent. 3,000 blood family that I speak for. And 2001, when we were told to stand up and tell our identity who we are. My grandfather, they said, they're gonna send us help from the four directions. And this is where Bill came from the West direction. He came from Portland, Oregon. And the one that was supposed to write the book for us, he came from North Carolina. His name was Kevin Dider. But when we were getting, because 2001, when we showed this blood tree to the blood family of 3,000, a lot of them didn't know they were of the family. Because their parents, grandparents never told them their true identity, who they were. Because we were in hiding. And it's better if they don't know they're not gonna say nothing. And like that, so they kept it from them. So 2001, when we showed this blood tree to the blood family this is where the blood family appointed me and my two younger brothers as administrators to represent the blood family. So my younger brother, Doug Warigo and our youngest brother, Don Redthunder, those are my younger brothers that are administrators for the Craigsawers family and myself. But in this federal court, I'm the administrator representing the Craigsawers family in this federal court. But when we showed this tree to the blood family and seen that a lot of the family didn't know who they were until they seen this blood tree that they're a grandson or a granddaughter or maternal side, cousin or like this. They were of the family. So this is when we decided to make a book for our children and grandchildren. Why it took us 12 years to verify our family's oral history. And the stories that we were told always had a landmark or point of reference when that event happened. So this is what we were doing for 12 years, verifying our oral history. Because when the Lakota families hand down their oral histories it was the truth. When you hear a story of the family you have to tell it exactly how you you heard it. You can't add on or you can't take away from that story. You have to tell it with truth. So this is how what we were verifying and whenever we found a landmark or point of reference when that event happened or like this sometimes we'll pinpoint exactly where the family was camped at that time. Whenever we found out that it was a truth that's when we put it in the book. Because this was being done for our children and grandchildren. Because we wanted them to know their identity of their grandfathers and grandmothers where their blood came from. So this is why it took us 12 years to put together. But when we were getting ready to get this published book our grandfathers said share it with the world. This is where they said they used their grandfather's name around this world so share it with the world why we're here today sharing it with you guys. And when we were told to share it with the world this is where it's also in Norwegian and German and English and now they're working on French there's different languages of the world including we want it also in Lakota for our family, our people and like this. But it was time for truth now they said so this is what we're doing for the family and our people and the rest of the world so when we made this book we were told there was 500 books written about my grandfather movies that were made about my grandfather when we finished this book and had it published all books written about my grandfather are now all assumptions they're non truths they're fiction so the back of this book you're not going to find no references in the back of this book where we got these stories from because any book you look in the back and see references they'll say we got this story from this book or author like this when they put a book together this one doesn't have that what we show back there is how we showed our proof of our identity in this federal court these six documents but when we had it published the publisher made it real small back there they call it postage stamps where you almost need a magnifying thick magnifying glass to look at it so on the first page of the appendix on the bottom of the page we put a link in there that you could go to click on to that link you could blow up all these documents if you want to see them if you can't see you could even blow up as big as a movie theater screen because us the family we have nothing to hide because we were told to do this with shoes so this is when we completed this book asked shoes or anything written about my grandfather if you read any books about my grandfather all I say is good practice because that's not my grandfather you're reading about so this is where a lot of assumptions started when my grandfather in 1877 when he got assassinated by this government and his own kind nine years later Red Cloud was recognized as chief of the Oglala Band nine years later so when my grandfather was assassinated there was no such band as the Oglala or Sichangu these were paper tries made by this government in 1886 and recognized by this government in 1886 so there's a lot of assumptions these 500 books written in the movies that were made said my grandfather is an Oglala which didn't even exist when he got assassinated so this is where asked shoes our family my grandfather this is where the world was believing I use this as an example what the world was believing was an English man an English woman having a German baby that's what the world was believing because his mother is Nikoju his father is Nikoju but everybody is saying he's an Oglala same thing when his mother and father are Nikoju that makes him Nikoju what our family is and just like an English man and a woman their kids are English so this is what everybody is assuming assumptions so this is what we're correcting now with truth so our family 2001 when we showed our proof in this federal court case at that time this government was acknowledging the Lakota battle of Little Bighorn so there were the planning stages of an Indian memorial that was dedicated in 2003 so 2001 when we went to this meeting the reservation where we come from Shan River was invited up there so they asked us to go along the Crazier Wars family and this word of red nations up there like what they told us everybody was Crazier Wars descendant and like this they were claiming my family and grandfather so in this meeting of these red nations this word when we were told to tell our identity I'm a grandson of Crazier Wars my grandfather is Nikoju so this is the first time that these red nations heard this and after that nobody said they were descended because now they know of this court case where you have to show proof now so our people they're having a hard time with this truth because but when they use these six documents this word they're finding out they're not of our family the bloodshed that we put in this federal court case if you're not on there they're not of our family so they're having a hard time with this truth why people shy away from truth because sometimes truth hurts but as truth what they're finding out is that where their blood comes from their grandfathers and grandmothers so they're finding out their true identity who they are by remembering their grandfathers where their blood comes from so before by assuming they were from our family they forgot about their grandfathers and grandmothers where as truth where their blood comes from so when we were told to do this with truth this was also but truth helped heal our people so as truth we know that their grandfathers are happy they weren't forgotten because that's what the people were doing they forgot about their grandfathers and grandmothers by assuming they were of our family so to now they're starting to find this out so when we were at Little Bighorn when we told who we were the Park Service we had to stay another day so the next day when we went to the administration building and met with the superintendent and there were three former superintendents of Little Bighorn Battlefield Park Service were also there and this is where they asked us they had two tables like this sitting the long way and they had a map of the Little Bighorn Battlefield their curators their historians and just like that were all sitting with documents by the soldiers in 1876 every soldier had a journal in this journal they were writing what they were seeing what they were experiencing and like this in their journals and that's what they were sitting with so when we told how our grandfathers did this at that time the Park Service said there's over a thousand books written about this battle by the Cheyenne by the Crow by anybody else that have been writing books about this battle so when we told them that this camp at the battle there were six miles of camp already these thousand books said there was only three miles of camp so they were already assuming these books that were written when there were six miles of camp and when we told how we even told them how they were all camped and when we told them how our grandfathers did this battle and matched up to everything the soldiers are writing in their journals what they were seeing so they knew that we were telling them the truth because in 1877 when our family went in hiding the story of this battle went in hiding with our family so when we told them and they matched to everything the soldiers wrote the historians had two questions they wanted to ask us they said in 1984 a fire came to this battlefield and it burnt 600 of the 640 acres of this battlefield burnt the grass off completely when that happened they said we noticed there was rocks below last annual so we looked at because there were river rocks what they were seeing so they checked their geographic maps and they said according to our geographic maps there was supposed to be no rocks in this area so this is what we told them this was the only battle that the Lakota told the Lakota and the Cheyennes when you remove your relative or your family member from this battlefield bring a rock from the river and mark where they fell so they're called corns there were markers what they were seeing and then the other question was in 1984 when the grass burnt off forensics came through this battlefield like a crime scene they documented every shell casing and like this they found in this battlefield so they said with the computer because a shell casing with a firing pin mark on it is like a thumbprint of a kind so with the computer with these shell casing all documented we could tell where a person shot from that same shell casing we'll find it over here and like this so with the computer we could assimilate how the Lakota and the Cheyennes were coming shooting like this and then we could tell what the soldiers were doing skirmish slides and retreating and like this and like that so when we could look at it like that on a computer today the technology and like this but in 1984 when the forensics came through here they found two soldier skeletons so they said, the historian said according to our records we still missing 26 soldiers so we took the supertenants and the historians down to deep ravine according to our family's oral history there's nine buried right here we showed them where they were buried and they said no, in 1984 when the forensics came through here they scanned everything they didn't find us and then as the historian was looking at the paper where he realized that in 1984 when they scanned that area they set that machine right on top of those nine that were buried so they never scanned where they were standing they scanned all the way around them but where these nine were buried and then we took them to Sharpshooter Ridge and we showed them where 17 were buried on Sharpshooter Ridge so now all your soldiers are counted for 268 he was missing and now it's our turn and up there there's a red headstone starting to mark the Lakota and the Cheyennes that fell at this battle because they know these rocks are corns and markers and like this so the park service gave our family and the historian had to check us out first and when he verified that his blood family and like this they gave us permission to walk the battlefield and nobody up there gets off those trails because if you get off that trail you'll get thrown in jail because you're breaking the law but when we were given permission and they gave us these surveyor flags a little wire with these plastic flags I think they were orange colors but when we walked the battlefield we marked 215 corns so when you see these these orange flags you could see why those white headstones are where they're at you could see this battle happening and this is the first time they heard that how many of the Lakota and Srajans fell at that battle part of the battlefield is private land so we marked 215 and we didn't find 35 so there was 250 total of Lakota and Srajans that fell at this battle and 263 soldiers that fell at this battle the only difference are the 13 that was with Custer during the Civil War there were the most highly decorated military of the United States they were all Congressional Medal of Honor winners like this they were the very first to go down in this battle but so these kind of truths they never heard before nobody asked so in the United States in 1876 declared war on the Lakota Nation nobody from our nation ever told of this battle so this is the first time they were hearing this 2001 the real truth and when we were told to stand up for my family it was time for truth now so my grandfathers of truth it was time to heal so that ending memorial that was dedicated in 2003 there was a unity or peace through unity or vice versa unity through peace so in 2003 the Crazier Wars family we did a ride we made a video of it called Journey of the Heart the family cemetery on Shannon River we rode with the youth and my grandfather he always paid attention to the youth because the youth was a strength of a nation the elders is a knowledge and wisdom of a nation he paid attention to these two groups so 2003 when we did this ride with the youth from our family cemetery almost 360 miles to a little bit on the battlefield but like anything that we do there's a meaning behind that 360 is a circumference of a circle why it was that and we did this for four years the Crazier Wars family in honor of our Lakota and Shang grandfathers that fell at this battle but when that memorial dedication was done in 2003 June 25th June 26th was Korsak Zhukovsky's wife's birthday Ruth so when we did this ride completed this ride on the 25th we loaded up our horses and we hauled them to Crazier Wars Mountain June 26th the Crazier Wars family we did a ride for Ruth honoring her for her birthday and at that time she was 74 years old so when we did that ride and this is when we told her how her husband did this mount so before that she said in 1948 when Korsak and came with our family in 1948 at that time when he asked if you do this you got to do it it was private donations, no government now so he said I promise to do that so when he made that promise my dad's older brother three of my uncles went up there and posed for the face of the mountain how he done this sculpture and then at that time when you're done with this sculpture you can't tell anybody how you did this so he said I promise to do that so when he left for the other side in 1990 something he never told anybody he kept this promise so 2003 when we told Ruth how that mountain came to be she told us that in 1948 she was walking down the hall she looked in the room and she had seen her husband doing something and the next time she walked by and she looked in that room he was sitting back and he was done with the sculpture and the next time she walked by he was burning something up in the fireplace he never told me how he did this I never asked him how he did that so 2003 she just not heard the truth about that came to be so our family we've always known that horse that my grandfather rode on that mountain his name was Ian meaning rock or spirit rock that's the name of my grandfather's horse on that mountain but to remember a horse that he lost before Ian named Joaquin meaning thunder why this sculpture is being done on Thunder Mountain in the Black Hills that's the name of my grandfather's horse but only the family knew this now it's in a book so everybody is starting to know this truth no more assumptions so when we honored her and her kids were standing with her and we called her Ruth and we didn't know that up there at the mountain even her kids called her Mrs. Z her parking deal has Mrs. Z all the employees call her Mrs. Z her own kids call her Mrs. Z so when we honored her Ruth and like this she was all happy giving us hugs and like this when we honored her for her birthday so her kids were looking at their mom you know what's wrong with mom you know because she choose us out if we save Ruth and and our family was calling her Ruth and she didn't get upset or anything so we were the only family I guess that was privileged to call her Ruth but that's her name, Ruth you know so but when our family up there and Craig George Mountain Corsac and Ruth we have a dream a vision it's in a visitor's center if you've ever been up there it shows when the mountains complete there's a medical university that they want to build and like this and like that so 2001 when we got in this federal court case at that time there was 180 companies worldwide using my grandfather's name so 2001 when we showed our bloodshed in this federal court case the first company to call us was Liz Claiborne because at that time she was making a crazier collection in J.C. Penney's and at that time she made 500 million net in one year using my grandfather's name so when her lawyers called 2001 I told my younger brothers tell them I want 80% of that and when they told her lawyers that they were surprised because under the federal law by winning this court case with the Harnel Brewing Company were entitled to 100% all of it but we tell them tell her that we're not a greedy family she has employees that work for her that's their livelihood they depend on that to live and like this so tell her to take care of her employees first and whatever whatever is left you can live comfortably off that that was just one year that's not counting from the first days she used it until she quit using it so under this federal law the name traitors that the people were using when this court case is done there's 180 companies are watching this court case because we won this case they all want to settle out of court they're all with the family the real family so I know in the United States it's easy because all you have to go is to the IRS because they all have to pay taxes so they tell on themselves when they used it and like this so they're accountable for all 100% what they made off of my grandfather belongs to my family the Frazier family and that's one company and the first year we have six companies that call some of them making 300 million 200 million 100 million like that annually so we know that our families have been litigation for a while but they're all out of court settlements that they want to do so when we were told that they were going to send help from the four directions Bill coming from the west from Portland, Oregon Kevin coming from the east from North Carolina Kevin died out the lawyers that were representing us in this determined of blood heirs was a crazier state they represent the south direction and when this court case is done that north direction comes and that's a lawyer that's gonna international lawyer that's coming that's gonna stop the use of my grandfather's name around the world and my grandfather didn't lie when he said he was going to send help from the four directions so this is still coming we're slowly completing it but when we were told to do this all this correcting everything I mean it's time for truth now and like this when these lawyers come and correct things and like this this were asked truth because that's what we were told to do and my grandfather crazier he never said you have to do it like this or like that he showed it to you he did it by example and that's what the people our nation followed his example and so how he does it this is how you do it so today as his family by example were showing all the red nations this is how you legally protect your grandfather's name under the federal and international laws so we're the first family to do this for the red nations we're setting protocol for all of them so we know that when this court case is done sitting most family next Geronimo's family chief Joseph down the line all these red nations their grandfathers now have a way to protect their grandfather's name so this is where I smile when I think of Geronimo's family look how many people jump out of planes and holler Geronimo like that so you know that so this is what by winning this court case the creditors family like my grandfather by example were doing this for all the red nations and so now they didn't have to ask the family's permission to use their grandfather's name so now they can legally protect their grandfather but for our family in 1877 when my grandfather why we went into hiding my grandfather had a Sundance held two weeks before the Battle of Little Bighorn which was held six miles north of Lamedere, Montana today at the same Sundance this is where Sitting Bull was showing a vision of what was going to happen at the Battle of Little Bighorn so today on Jack Bailey's land north of Lamedere, Montana six miles there's a rock called Dude Medicine Rock and this is where Sitting Bull's vision was put on this rock but at the same Sundance my grandfather was showing a vision too so on a belly of an owl right west of this Dude Medicine Rock because the owl is one of our family medicines on a belly of this owl he showed his vision of his demise, his death so on a belly of this owl he showed a doctor standing there which was Melikuddy my grandfather standing beside him and in front of him was a soldier with a rifle and bayonet that stabbed him twice and my grandfather even had to march where he got stabbed but standing with this soldier was his own people his own kind meaning that the government and his own people were going to do this and the short horse tracks up and down coming in meaning that he was going to be alive coming in but when he leaves these horse tracks are laying down meaning he was dead when he leaves which happened 15 months later at Fort Robinson what happened there he already knew this was coming but my grandfather because of his unconditional love for his family and people he still preserved and protected the Black Hills because for our nation the Black Hills is our ancestral burial grounds of our people so what's going on there today is like a church today with a cemetery beside it people are living all over that cemetery driving all over it that's what's going on right now but in 1877 the reason why my grandfather went to Fort Robinson was this federal government promised him a federal agency we'll give you a federal agency if you quit fighting because they were scared of my grandfather but this government in 1877 if something is not under their system or after they're scared of something or like this this government destroyed it so when my grandfather got assassinated because our family knew that was an assassination