 Hello, everybody. I'm so excited to be here today with Ron, who is one of the youngest dropshippers in Autodesk, only 16 years old dropshipper. I want to make this interview after I talked with Ron a lot of time and then one day somehow I saw his picture and I asked him how old are you? And Ron told me that he's 16 years old. So it's very reminded me myself as I also started a lot of time ago. And I thought that this interview can inspire a lot of people and can give a lot of motivation and a lot of ideas for your businesses to many, many, many different people. So today we are here with Ron. We will do this interview about technical part of Ron's business and also how he came to dropshipping and the hard times which he had, which is very, very, very interesting. How are you Ron? I'm great. Thank you. I'm very excited to be here. Great. So I prepared some questions which I will ask you and also I will ask you about the answer so it will be like an open interview. So how did you start with dropshipping and when did you start with the dropshipping? Okay, so six months ago I just was my phone looking at on Instagram and then I saw some ads of some eBay course. So before I bought it I just learned by myself, saw some YouTube videos, saw many webinars and after a month I decided that I want a bit more professional course. So I bought a course and learned with it. So actually I started by just watching on YouTube and then you took a professional course, right? Cool. And what was your goal when you took this course? Like what was your final goal? I really wanted to succeed in this business. I heard like that I can have store of my own that works 24-7 and without me working all the day with it. I wanted to spend my time like I have a lot of time. I'm in high school so to take my time to my advantage and to use it as much as possible. And this is what was your like final goal when you grow and with the business and the business goes forward? What do you want to reach? I wanted to like now I want to have a lot of stores. I want to outsource the most of the store, the work so I can keep on growing my business, opening more stores, just making profit. Nice. And then you want like outsource it to other people and bring your system, how do you want to manage it? Yeah, I want to hire some VAs of customer service, of fulfilling orders just to so I could focus really the important things and how to just grow and grow and expand my business. Nice. Now I wanted to ask you about the age. I know that it's very hard on this age to manage a business in many different parts of life. Can you tell us a bit about which problems did you have with the business on this age? Yes, so I do have some problems with it. First of all, because I'm below 18 years old, so I can't have PayPal, I can't have eBay account, and I can't have Payoneer account. So I need to use in each of my stores, my family names, my friends that are older than me names and need to find a lot of identities to all of my stores and PayPal. And in addition, it's in another aspect. Working on eBay really demands from you to work at late hours, like 1am, 2am. So I took these hours and I slept a bit less, but I think it's worth it. This is very professional. So great. So you have the two problems. So actually, you immediately started with Stealth accounts, because you don't have any other option. So we even don't know who is wrong. Cool. So I remember that when we talked around, I think it started two weeks ago maybe, you had a lot of problems with eBay. Can you tell us a bit about the challenges which you had and the problems which you had with your accounts? Yes. So after I started the mentoring program, like a month and a bit more ago, I saw really big, super fast growth in my store in just one month. So I needed to call eBay and even to have more like higher limits. I had I think 30,000 items limit and 900,000 limits, but I needed more. So I called them and asked them, please give me higher limits. I want to expand my business and stuff like this. And they told me no problem, but it will take some days. The internal team need to review your account. So I waited a few days and then I got not so happy notice that I got MC011 restriction, that is one of the hardest restrictions. And it was a problem. Good. And how did you solve this problem? Did you solve it alone or how did you do it? Yeah. So first of all, because of my age, I don't have like a thousand dollars to spend on to give someone to open it for me. So I needed to do it myself. So I called eBay many times. I sent them all the documents they wanted. I really didn't gave up because I wanted it to work. After I saw this grow in my business, I couldn't give up on it so fast. I understand. How did you feel about this when you got this restriction? It was very bad feeling. But after I saw it, I looked at it a bit different because after I got this result, so I understand that now I know how it works. I know now how should I work to make the best profit that I can. So it did have some advantages on this side that I just decided from now. I'm opening five more stores. I'm going to expand my business five times more. So I mean, actually, it changed your mindset. That you just need to grow. Okay. Cool. And I wanted to ask you about the course which you did in the beginning. What did you learn in this course? Like it was basic course or more? How it was? So it was actually a basic course. I taught me really just teaching how to open the eBay account and how to list your items and then how to use automation that's a monitor and product research tools. And I think the best thing that really changed from zero sales that I had when I learned alone to the first and after sales is to start with low price. I started to just list items when I learned alone, even without researching them, I think, and like $10 profit or something like this. And it didn't work. I didn't understand why. And then after I bought the course and saw the videos. So I understood that I should start from the beginning when I'm a new seller only with a few items and only with like 50 cents profit. And then after each sale, to grow the price, to make it higher, to have more profit. So this is what you learned in the course and with which supplier did you work on these days? I was very focused. So I used Amazon, but not really in Target. So in Target, I also have interesting story. The people that see it, I hope they won't touch Target. I found a very interesting item, which sales like in $5 profit. And it was like the lowest price on eBay. It just sells like 70 sales a week. It was amazing. But then Target started to realize, understand that I'm a drop shipper. So it just started to cancel all my orders one by one. And I succeeded to save the most, but I needed to cancel 26 orders. And on these days, I didn't know what is defects. So I also canceled them with out-of-stock reason. And it made a big problem on eBay, on my account. And this is what I learned how to manage many difficults. Wow. So you had a lot of difficult sales, the target and the accounts block and like many difficults in the way. And they still grow. It's amazing. How did you get to this mindset? Like how did you grow to this? Did you learn from someone or just you? How did you get to this? I think that because of my mistakes, I learned how to deal them. After each mistake I did, I know now to not repeat it again. So I learned a lot from experience. And also now like the new method of working is from the mentoring program. I understand. So actually the mindset is just because it's CEO, like you just want always to go forward. This is just how you work in life in general, right? Yeah. Amazing. So I want to go to the second part of the interview after we know people a bit and know how did you start about your current days in the drug shipping and how do you work on these days? So first I want to ask you, first of all, to make a small introduction, Ron started in the mentorship program as a Clayton student around when did you start on? At the beginning of March. Yeah, around one and a half months ago. And then the things went very good. He will tell about this soon. And I want first to ask with which suppliers they work right now. Okay. So now I have three stores in the US that working on Amazon and another two stores in Germany that working with Aliexpress. Cool. You work with Aliexpress because of the VAT or the AT? Yeah, because of the VAT. So this way you saved the AT. Cool. Can you tell us a bit about the strategy which you work and use now? Yes. So the strategy is the big rules, the big numbers rule, as you call it. I use the find and recurring uploads. I upload to my store, I think like 200 listings a day in very low profit margin, like 3%. And the most of the profit comes from gift cards that I'm buying on discounts of 15%. And also cashback of 7% approximately. And I also use the new feature of the coupons in the Autodesk Finder that sometimes can be amazing, like 20% saving on a very expensive item. That's a lot of profit. Nice. So I mean you don't sell tons of these coupon products, but when you sell, so it gives you a good profit. Yeah. Nice. How many products do you upload per store, per day? So I did it, I started like from 50 a day and then 100 a day and then 200 and even more. And I reached up to 5,000 listings on my UB store. Amazing. Nice. Okay. And after you got a mentor, can you please explain how was the process with the mentor about the WhatsApp group, about the lesson, how it works for you? So first of all, I scheduled my first meeting and it was a bit afraid because Clayton just explained me like the new method of work. And I needed to purchase anchor store that is $350 and I needed to purchase a lot of credit for the Finder. And then I decided, okay, I'm doing it. I pressed him and it did work. And after I think two or three weeks, I did a growth of 600%. I went from $1,000 approximately of selling a month to $2,000 a week. Wow. It was amazing. That's a crazy girl. I didn't know about this crazy. Wow. And what did you change in your strategy? Like it was just this that you moved to Amazon or it was a completely different strategy? Like what was the different this and the course which you did before? So with the course, I researched more. I took more time on researching the items and listing them one by one. And I didn't have many items in my store, maybe like 500 items or something like this. And then I grow to 5,000. And like the eBay flag didn't, I didn't care about it anymore. Like with a flag, I didn't sell a lot from in the beginning before the strategy changed. And then after it, I sold like 20 items a day, which I maybe sold it in a week or two before. So actually your accounts are flagged and you just don't care and continue to work? Yeah. Amazing. This is something which I really tried to explain people because people are always trying to remove the flag instead of focusing on how to work with the flag account and still make profits because it's possible. So I really hope we'll show people and inspire them. Do you feel with the mental that you have someone that you can ask questions about the dropshipping or any holidays that you have about dropshipping? Yes, actually, I think every day that if I have any problem, I just contact Clayton and the answers me even the same minute sometimes. It's very available to any question that I have. And really, I owe him a lot of my success. Cool. I hope that he will listen to this interview. I will send it to him. Actually, for you, it's great because it's in your nights. Clayton is US time zone and you are working in nights, so it works good for you. Are you optimizing the prices or the titans or anything in your listings? Actually, I'm only using the auto price feature. If the product doesn't sell, so I drop the price until I'm getting a very small amount of profit. And I increase the price, like the auto price does it, increase the price if the item sells as good. If the item sells two times, it starts to increase the price and then I have more profit of a good item. Cool. So we're just giving the system to do it automatically for you. You use both the price less and price drop. By how many percentage or dollars do you increase the price? I do it with 51 cents because I'm using the 99 cents end. So that way it always changed by one dollar. Cool. Do you have any specific niche that you use? No, actually, as I said before also, I'm not researching the items anymore. I'm just letting Autodesk do it for me and just uploading from the Finder. So it uploads many, many niches. I don't focus on a specific one and I think this works. Amazing. Cool. So actually, in your age and this mindset and the results are really amazing. I'm sure that it will inspire a lot of people. What are your next steps from now? How do you plan to continue growing, create more stores or what are you doing now? Yes. So now I'm expanding like I now open five stores. So my plans are to open over 100 stores because if I have each store doing more than $1,000 sales a day, so it can be very, very, very good out of profit. And just to keep expanding my business every day to hire VA's, to do customer service, really focus on the important things. Nice. So you're starting now to create more and more stores and grow all of them together. Yeah. Amazing. Actually, you already got this $1,000 I think with the big store, right before you had the problems. Yeah. So we just saw that you can do it and now you want to expand it to many, many different. Amazing. Cool. Do you have any other tips that you want to share with people, any thoughts, anything that you want to tell to people? Just to not give up and really if I can do it, when I'm 16 years old, so I'm sure every person can do it and you can learn from other mistakes also. Like from my mistake that I work with Target and now I know don't work with Target. So just to learn from others' experience and also to not listen to people that saying that it doesn't work and now maybe flag is your account. So now you can sell anymore because it's not true. I took a non-selling account because it was flagged to sell $1,000 a day and I'm sure everyone can do it. It's amazing. So guys and people who listen to this actually think about this alone at 16 years old really made it and made it very, very great business and very fast and big growth. So actually Ron's starting point is much harder but his mindset has really helped him to succeed and grow. I actually got a, I remember the first message which I got from you about the suspension. It was like a bit, oh my god, what to do now. But the second time was like, okay, it suspended again. Let me just continue, which is amazing. I think that everybody need to really learn from this. Thank you very much for this interview, Ron. I'm sure you've been thanking me. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.