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Did it make you feel sexual harassment? What? Sexual harassment Whoa! They're kind of watching movies from You become a mean fadon We had like seven, now we're down to four Hello everyone, welcome to part two of Every frame of Paul's episode 120 million hour stream This is what hour 12 ish We welcome Mr. Wolf How you doing there sir? I'm doing pretty good Excellente Mr. Fringy, always nice to see you Hello And of course Down with thrust, how are you sir? How was your day? It was good And congratulations on the hundredth Episode Yeah man On the podcast It's been crazy because they're all Like a million hours long each I wonder when you sleep Also, as some may have already noticed Rags is mysteriously missing Any second he may be back Worst case scenario he fell asleep Best case scenario he'll be Eddie will He wakes up eight hours later Sorry what I missed, what's up? See the good part of that though Is that he can be the hype man While I slowly staggered fall asleep In the background, so it'll be great Right But yeah, we don't need to We're not really going to be covering anything For a little bit We're just going to have a nice little chat You know, chill out Ask all of the questions Because I mean after those Especially after those cookin' videos You cool McCullin, you tone Is that right? Yeah So the story behind My name is Tony by the way obviously Yeah Probably many people thought about that Anyway I was working at This cell phone store And this The manager I had at the time He gave me, he bestowed on to me The name tone loke So just kind of carried through Not my real name But I go by either or Yeah I mean it works I mean I was just going to say The easy question to go off like What got your passion going For cooking Because man, you're good at it Um My starvation as a kid I Grew up in a family of five Five kids Hey rags Oh my god Rags, hello Yo hello What the fuck have you been Rags, meet Tone Tone, meet rags Hello Hi Hi there Hello Alright great to hear from you in the live It's great to meet you Over the internet That's what the best we can do for now Um, yeah he was just regaling us with How all this cooking stuff got started So go ahead So when I was a kid Like my mom and dad divorced When I was like 10 And um He had the job She didn't kind of thing She never went to college so She took all five kids and Had no job She was broke We ended up living like in a trailer Long story short We didn't have a lot of money And we had five kids so I pretty much never got to eat As a kid So Like my mom would make like the The classic hamburger helper for dinner You know The noodles with the ground beef You know the $5 meal for 10 people And like If you weren't first to the table You didn't get seconds Because there were so many fucking kids So as I got older Um Food network Exploded When I was like a teen And it wasn't just like the classic Like restaurant tour Doing like the demo On TV Via like Epicurious or something like that It was like the celebrity chef You know the Bobby Flay came to the picture So I kind of like It was a combination of being always starved As a kid Starving as a kid And then like um Watching like the Celebrityism develop With food Like on the side While the kids were like watching like Saved by the bell Like I was rocking like Iron chef So it's kind of like It's kind of like how I got started And of course I had my grandma in the kitchen You know Trying to sneak the Taste of the tomato sauce Before she'd whack me in the face kind of thing We had a very close knit family Although we were very poor So like it was Was it like making as much as you could Of the ingredients you had at hand Sort of thing you had to learn To sort of change them up and stuff Yeah I mean I actually recall fond memories of Food stamps actually at one point So we were pretty poor actually And my mom would send me to the store With the old food stamps And she'd say you got Twenty dollars in food stamps You got to get food for the rest of the week So I'd just go down there And get a whole bunch of stuff And then my mom and I would just Make dinner for the whole family For like seven days Pack it up in little packages So everyone would have You know food in the fridge But at the end of the week We pretty much have no food I mean making the most of it right Really it was like I was about to say Basically just learning by necessity And not only like learning how to cook Good but also cook a lot Like it's a pretty good combination Of skills I would say Oh we made some trash for sure Some goulash I got twenty yolks mom With this one I got a bag of flour And some chocolate mom So when you were buying this You sort of like I want to mix it up This week I want to buy some stuff We haven't used before No no My mom would give me like a list You know the old ten item list And then I'd have to figure out How to squeeze like olive oil Cereal pancake mix All this crap I'd have to find some way To get it under twenty bucks So like that's how I learned How to cook on a budget Obviously the show is kind of Like about like restaurant style food And like lavish elegant food But like my roots come from very poor Like family style peasant food That's a humble way of getting up there Starting from nothing And getting to where you're at now I mean your food looks genuinely excellent The restaurant style high quality stuff Is definitely what I'd call it To the point where I'd even say it's I don't want to say like It's really I'd say beyond the level Most people could probably do It's sort of its own thing It's surpassed the everyday person Kind of level It's really up there I can make macaroni That's my level I could make toast I can burn to Well I mean like The truth of the matter is I don't eat like that Like that's just kind of like The special occasion stuff right I very like I imagine what your low tier stuff is Would be God like to us as well We'd be like whoa You're just like I'm just putting together What can you do with a can of beans I actually fucking hate beans So oh no You and me both Every kind Like I was in Chipotle this one time Oh You guys don't got Chipotle in Europe No but I know what it is though They have spicy shit there right It's like Americanized You sure as fuck you got beans So like I got there to order my burrito And like it's kind of like For those who don't know what Chipotle is You basically walk up to the counter And they make the burrito in front of you So I wasn't watching this chick That was making it one time I gave her clear instructions Because she wasn't listening And then there she goes Dumping beans into my fucking burrito And just stared at her aghast Disgusted Don't put beans in my food So this is supposed to be natural I thought this would be the origin story For hating the beans Oh no Now that would be the campfire Someone in the chat probably knows What is the commercial with the dog The beans Oh bushes Fake beans Yeah man We were so poor I told you guys earlier that it was poor So poor We would eat bushes baked beans On fishing trips If we caught no fish Guess what was for dinner Beans Oh my That's where my hatred for beans Among other things This is where my Makes those fishing trips pretty fucking High stakes Jesus Yeah that rainbow trout Fuck I'd eat pike rather Actually I don't know if I'd rather eat pike Than beans Pike is pretty disgusting Well that's in the UK Don't you guys have like a lot of Or maybe it's Norway You got like a lot of fish dishes Like dried fish Mahler I mean yeah we're like a lot of Fish related dishes over and over in Britain I was going to say I'm ok with beans I'm on team beans to a degree I'm not going to shout from the heavens For them but beans are cool I'll keep them and back up We used to have that album Pike and beans Yeah pike and beans Fish and chips is of course One of the cultural exports we have over in Britain It's one of the things people come to our aisles Just for the fish and chips Exquisite you might even say But yeah I was curious About the rabbit I'm assuming the answer is no Do you do any hunting at all Or do you get it all from like a butcher No I am completely 100% Non-hunter I hate zoos I hate zoos I don't like to export zoos for animals At all Well there's a difference between Like a natural habitat Or like a You know what do they have those like sanctuaries Like for wounded animals I know what you're talking about You're talking about the big sort of Zoos that they can sort of free roam around And they try to approximate like the habitat And they live in social groups You know like groups Rehabitate those animals Into the wild Because they've been Put in those There's a difference between that and zoos It's what I'm saying Zoos is commercialization That seems to be driven by a certain amount of goodwill Maybe it's just my own personal experience But the couple zoos I've been to Have been like really bad shitholes Granted one of them was the Detroit zoo So that's kind of a given that it's going to be a shithole But uh They had animals like walking out of their cages And the people working there just didn't give a shith Free range Free range zoos You're matching the free range You see like a lion chasing They already bought their tickets See like The monkeys like sitting in their own shith It's like it's sad They're like super sad They're super depressed It's like no way to live Penguin exhibit is fucking depressing You go in there it's like all fake ice You see the shit collecting On the bottom of their little pool It smells awful in there It's just really disgusting Fly them back out to Antarctica please Anyway No it's a circle back moll No I'm not a hunter Um So like weird question I don't know how to phrase it But like what kind of stuff do you know to cook animal wise Cause obviously the rabbit but What's uh So the rabbit was tough to get actually Like finding that rabbit And like The COVID System was like Interesting considering there were like 10 billion rabbits Actually it's not squeezy Yeah head to the nearest field And gun one down But no like finding the rabbit was Come here Bunny But not like the finding the actual ride was a Frickin nightmare I had to like go to like another city To like this It wasn't even like a butcher it was like a This is huge like They were like breaking down Entire animals Like from not like a slaughterhouse But like Huge pieces of meat like You go to a butcher you know you might find like Like a venison loin but you're not gonna see Like the venison hanging from the chains Being cut down you know what I mean So like someone maybe like A hunter would go out and they'd shoot a deer or something And then they'd bring the deer to this person And they'd dress it and get it already and that sort of thing Yeah I mean there's like two There's two different types of like a butcheries So you have like the butcheries where The butcher will Import the product That's pre Pretty much pre sliced Or pre cut or whatever Butcher I guess there's three The second type of butcher would be the butcher that Imports bigger slabs of Of meat And then cuts them down themselves Packages them and sells them Then you have what you're talking about which is What does he get the Star Wars? That and If you like hunt a deer You can find like a Someone to take your animal too And they'll actually break it down Uh huh They don't actually sell commercialized meat They'll just you know break down your shit for you Yeah I can imagine Like I'm in Arkansas and there's a lot of Hunting that goes around here so I imagine there's quite a few places like that That'd be more than happy to You know get your deer already Take care of your meat Get your meat You bring them we slash them Yeah the um Rabbit episode was actually supposed Well that was the length of the second Actually we were planning to do Venison and then I completely fucked it up I Fucked up the first episode and then we Refilled it which took like seven hours by the way And then the camera The camera fucking died As we were doing Not like At the start not like two hours in Right as we're getting like the money shot Plating You know that the iconic Shot that everyone wants to see It dies And For some reason I don't know why There's no indicator on the camera I use So we just kept on filming And uh Gathered up all the footage later on and then realized We didn't have that Good old-fashioned money shot so we had to can it Went back to the butcher They're out of venison so then we switched to the rabbit Which one was better Oh the rabbit for sure I had never had it before And it was my first time cooking it so It was kind of like a challenge to me And Something really cool to do too So rabbit is uh You like to taste a rabbit better than venison Um I mean it tastes like chicken And I do fancy The rabbit chicken Tastes exactly like chicken I mean I paid like 40 Dollars for this tiny little rabbit One stinking rabbit Exactly like chicken dude It's jumpy chicken It's the attitude of the animal Because you hear people say that all the time It tastes just like chicken but I don't I think if I had to name an animal that The animal that isn't chicken that tastes Closest to chicken I think is actually alligator I was just going to say that too What Yeah I knew I wasn't crazy Not out crocodile dude Okay I'm out of the loop Why is an alligator a crocodile close to a Chicken taste wise Is that just what I didn't have an American Wait cause dinosaurs I'm surprised No I'm pretty sure that I just said it There was too much You have to say it again No I'm just trying to explain my point I'm pretty sure that our birds Descendant from dinosaurs Crocodiles are basically dinosaurs So there you go Dinosaurs eventually became birds What are you Crocodiles are Crocodiles are Like related to dinosaurs I'm pretty sure they are I thought it was just that they've been around For ages Crocodiles have been around for a long time I think that's just because Welcome to our podcast by the way But I think it's just coincidental Because there probably would have been a lot of changes You know between the dinosaur Chicken stage and what The crocodiles and alligators have been hanging around I'm not sure that that's Although birds may be The only modern dinosaurs This is from The Canadian Broadcast Corporation Like Canada This is the first link that came up Modern crocodiles and alligators Are almost unchanged from the ancient ancestors Get a new link No that makes sense If the crocodiles and alligators are unchanged Then they might have shared a common ancestor But One wouldn't have been descended from the other Oh Maybe not If birds Yeah but if it's the idea that Birds, because you know turkeys And chickens are not the same But they taste similar So if that's the case Then surely there's like and duck as well So like if that's the case And it was belonging to a similar group Taste similar Maybe that's just one of the things You like duck Let me set the stage Duck does not taste like chicken At all Yeah it doesn't That's why I was asking Because I really like duck But it doesn't taste like chicken Tastes great though I like it There's absolutely nothing That they don't have to loop I've never evolved from a crocodile either I'm not saying that they evolved from crocodiles That's not what I'm saying They didn't They don't taste like How do you know what that is They found engravings To describe the taste of dinosaurs That's how we know From other dinosaurs They wrote it down It wouldn't be cool to taste a T-Rex Just to see what it's like That's tasting power Obviously after it's just died of natural causes No need to butcher the animal Just for the taste I heard predatory animals don't taste as good As herbivores I'll tell you why that's true Let me replace the word herbivores With hunters and hunted Why game meat Or predators And game taste good Like let's say venison Or whatever game meat you're talking about Is because those fucking animals Are running for their lives All day long out there in the wild So they build up this Crazy like Enzyme structure within the meat I saw it on Joe Rogan at one point You can go look it up but It's just the one of not being Afraid I get your mind The less domesticated you are Eating corn, meal, crap Rolling around in your own shit The better you should taste Obviously We also have something to do with their diet too I assume so Grass The diet of grass Different from just eating Like a carnivore just eats Meat Have you seen it? Am I the only person who's seen the Tiger King documentary Out of us five? I haven't seen it I haven't seen it Tiger King is like a Netflix documentary But they show like it's just Tiger's a captain made money off It's pretty horrible on their end But it's also insane documentary Crazy shit They take all of the expired meat From different supermarkets and that's where they feed The lions where they just shove into a big van And it's just all these different kinds of meat And it's just like plopped into their Pens I wonder if that makes a difference Like fed higher grade Or higher value quality Even cooked meat versus just raw Random shit from supermarkets and stuff That reminds me of this documentary Called The Cove No I haven't I haven't even heard of that Great documentary It'll make you pissed off but it's really good No It's about these Dolphins That are kept In captivity in the small island Yeah like dolphins come on man Everyone loves dolphins But These people butcher These dolphins For commercialized meat Then they take the dolphin meat And repackage it And label it as tuna So You think it'd be quite more expensive to kill a dolphin And sell it as tuna Then Not true because dolphins are cool And they just kind of like come up to you Okay dolphin come here Oh man Come to me as I hoist this giant spear At your face Wow And then the entire Indigenous population Now has like mercury poisoning You know cause dolphins and sharks They have a high concentration of mercury In their blood which makes the meat The flesh really dark like tuna It's fucked up Oh Yeah that's not That is very strange I have no idea Please don't tell me that happens often Now I don't have to see the documentary and I don't want to Yeah just make sure you double check That hamburger meat Store I don't think I've eaten an animal that I didn't like though Was that called the Cove you said The Cove yeah Where can I watch that was that on like Netflix Or HBO I think it was a Netflix You know they've got some really good documentaries Blackfish is good It's about I've seen Blackfish that's a sad one as well That one pissed me off dude Basically the Shutdown of Sea World because they were Killing great white Sharks wait not great white sharks Orcas killer whales Orcas yeah killer whales And another one that's really good you guys should Check out is the Wire The show No it's This fascinating documentary Where these Two people climbed the And obviously in the past The Two towers Yes for I don't want to harp on the sentiment regarding it But they climbed the two towers At one point and Shot a cable I think out of like a bow and arrow Talked about across The two towers And then walked Oh yeah I know this Oh yeah I've heard of this I haven't watched it but I have heard of it That's a big note from me Oh damn it Everyone say it man on wire is that what it's called That's it wait man Yeah that is it yeah I remember I remember this distinctly by the way Chris Stockman did a review of this movie He said I'm not going to spoil whether or not He makes it across the wire And a minute later he references the fact that They consulted with the guy who did that Hey He could have fallen and been okay Doesn't the entire movie Have interviews with the guy Who climbed it I think his whole thing was To spoil whether or not he made it I guess making a movie about a guy who falls To his death is not like It's a bit of an edgy climax He's a full ghost you don't know Chris Stockman I'm not going to spoil it One minute later Yeah This makes you wonder Or I mean it's just It dawns on you like What humans can do Oh yeah they're crazies Some of the chat said you died I got better Besides The people who put Animals and zoos for profit It's amazing what people can do I was curious I do remember Blackfish Their fins flop over eventually Because They just break, they can't work them properly Because of the space confinements and stuff It's one of the fissures that happens Yeah It's actually not about the physical Structure of the tank Or lack there of space It's this weird I hate this I guess this is kind of spoiling it So close your ears if you're going to watch it But Something happens in their brain While they're in captivity That makes them go like Like crazy And they literally commit Like suicide in the tank Because they can't Like live a life Wild Or is it different from that I'm not a scientist But seems like it to me It is One of the many documentaries when you watch it Like oh dear this needs to stop This has to go We gotta rethink this shit It's weird because The sea world At one point lived across the street from And I was there As they shut it down and they remade it into It was like Sea Kingdom They basically took away all the Sea creatures The whales The huge aquariums with the killer whales Due to government regulation They basically came in there Slapped them on the ass And said hey man you can't do this no more And then they pretty much Just like a video game remaster They remastered the theme park And they put a whole bunch of roller coasters in it Better to have roller coasters than Orcas At least they don't even risk his humans dying You gotta be ready to Ever seen those pictures of those Humans that arrive in the roller coaster And the fucker stops when they're upside down Yeah We're having a little bit of maintenance Issue and it's gonna be about Three and a half hours just sit tight Aw man I don't know What roller coasters What the roller coaster is called But at Cedar Point there's this roller coaster That just goes really high up And then you go down And it's literally just one hill And it's like I think the tallest roller coaster there And it kept breaking down Like ten times while we were there And then my dad was like Let's ride this one and I was like I don't know if I want to ride the one that keeps breaking down There's like that repair man Sitting on the side with He's all washed up Wants to go home, greasy beard He's got the screwdriver in his hand Trying to fix that That's a good vote of confidence I did ride it It was like five or felt like five seconds It was fun Not the most fun I had there It was always like I don't know If I want to be riding the one that keeps breaking That's a valid concern That's a real make to work fun Do you guys have a lot of theme parks In the UK Oh well Yeah we got like Thorpe Park And most of the time we just Are out of our little island When we want to go to the better ones I've only heard of Thorpe Park Because of the in betweeners Yeah Oh you know It's funny because in my head I was just like What do you mean Covid We're not allowed to go anywhere It's just spooky but When things are a little bit more in function You've got the Disneyland Paris Which is pretty close by You can drive there There's a bridge of Spooka You can't drive over on water You can, freeze it Like a sorcerer Like that scene from the Polar Express movie Or Frozen Yeah how's that That was a reference Frozen wait In Frozen There was a train on ice What When you're only half Big attention you can buy the ship Yes Fringy the Polar Express Cameoed in Frozen It was around the halfway point It splattered I was about to say the Frozen Express The Polar Express wasn't made of ice Frozen ice It was Um So everyone was just saying Frozen So here's a question What is everyone's opinion on What carrots I love them, they're great So good I love them What was the method of cooking It was Very important You've already lost me Cooking Does a flamethrower help Boil them Take them in a stew I've had them In stews and stuff If you put a carrot In a pot of boiling water And then hand it to me I will throw it in the trash Wow I'll write that down I boiled this for you I just want to know why They taste like Baby food You mean like really soft and Yeah The way you should cook your carrots is Roast them And it makes them Crispy and Yummy It's not really about the food sometimes It's about how you Hand them food Obviously you always want to cook with fresh ingredients But It's how you utilize the ingredient That Determines the final product I've never actually had roasted carrots I might have to give that one a try So I'm worried to ask What your opinion on mashed potatoes is We Like I said earlier We're really poor rags So ate a lot of mashed potatoes grown up in So that could either mean That you have a wonderful fondness For them or you never want to see them again In your life If I would ever make them It would be like In a different Format I'll just say that I would never go out of my way and make mashed potatoes Stuff it into my life I'd rather throw up Sounds like you hate me If you would Boil them up a bit Roast them after that Things like that I prefer sweet potatoes because they're healthier I would eat a sweet potato Over a potato I don't actually like sweet potatoes Really? I just don't like them There are some foods where I just feel like the sugar Just doesn't have the sweetness to it Ever roasted them I can't remember Probably not But I'm not sure Next time I come across A roasted sweet potato though I will give it a try I assume the sweet potatoes That you may be referring to Classic Thanksgiving Sweet potato mash That tastes like candy It's nasty It does taste candy like That's why I don't like it I don't like sweet tea I'm from the south Everyone here has sweet tea I can't do it Never liked it Sugar doesn't mix with certain things I don't like sweet tea How is the Arkansas What is the covid situation down there Not too much Everyone's more spooked than anything else But not much covid stuff going on here Places are pretty much open They just do the reduced capacity Have to wear a mask that sort of thing Diamond doors Yeah, there's some of that Depending on the place But it's not like there's not lockdowns Or things of that nature It's fairly light There's no covid situation down there Lots of them There are rabbits everywhere Every time I walk outside at night There are rabbits all over the place Now just thought Have I ever told you the story of Rabbits in Australia How big are they Do they attack you The idea that Rabbits are some money python And the holy grail Where the rabbit just kills everybody Rabbits are an introduced species So as the story goes There was a guy Probably like a hundred or something years ago Who was like Man, it sucks that I can't go hunting Rabbits in this country that doesn't have rabbits I should bring in some rabbits And we'll hunt them Let's do that And so he brought 24 rabbits He let those 20, yes I'm pretty sure it's 24 He brought 24 rabbits And let them loose He didn't get them all I'm pretty sure there are now 200 million rabbits in Australia I think that might actually be a gross underestimate I think there might be more than 200 million It got so bad That they had to build A 3000 kilometer long fence In western Australia to keep them out So for a lot of fences To keep animals out And now you have Another to fight a war against the rabbits Well How does one fly to a war against rabbits I don't know When you said they built something I thought it was like a rabbit laser Or a rabbit turret They built a rabbit proof fence And it's not rabbit proof It didn't work It's not like the dingo fence The dingo fence Do you not know about the dingo fence Well I know about dingo They didn't know there was the great Australian dingo fence Well It is pretty great It's like 5000 kilometers long It's really long And it's It's a dingo fence You understand Ancient China built a wall to keep the Mongols out Fucking Australia Builds a fence to keep the rabbits out To keep themselves out It worked though The dingo fence was successful The rabbit fence didn't work Well yeah Rabbits were a lot smaller than dingoes Well you called it a rabbit proof fence I didn't call it a rabbit proof fence That's what they called it That's the actual name of the fence Australia I didn't name it I'm just saying It didn't work For everything Australia's ever did I do hold him responsible For a lot of Australian things I want to double check The actual number of rabbits That we have in Australia now Just so you don't drop another bobshell on us What other fences do you have What about this kangaroo fence The t-rex fence I imagine that kangaroo fence has to be extra high Well I think It's mainly just It's mainly just these two enormous Fences that a thousand kilometers long An elegant solution Well Yeah I just want to highlight as well I like that the story began with the rabbit Not originally from Australia Anything cuddly and normal is from Australia Hey look Kangaroos are pretty cuddly You just don't want to get too close to them Otherwise they'll beat you up That's the opposite of cuddly though If you ban damn you They are I mean cassowaries You don't want to go near cassowaries The cassowary is like And maybe you want steroids I don't know what that is Let me see If you inject steroids into What It's not actually An e-view It just looks a lot like one Tone, you know You played halo reach right Oh Oh my god Where is this going So you know those giant birds In the first mission of halo reach That's essentially what an emu is Or that We have a Picture in the chat that thing looks Actually a little bit more prehistoric than a crocodile Hold on Let me show you the real picture The real picture that should are That should terrify me It's a floopal dag What an absolute sandwich Is that What an absolute sandwich That's a cassowary kicking through A giant metal sheet That reminds me of When canine Sheriff trainers get the canine To attack them with the glove on What the hell is that guy doing Is that a shield Or is that going to prevent the cassowaries Into taking out my shield Only in Australia do you need a fucking shield Against That's a steel shield Have they weaponized the cassowary Have they put it into war yet Well it's funny right Are we arming these things at this point Oh god don't give them arms Jesus Christ Have you heard of the great emu war No No No one laughed at the rags Joe pun No arm Thank you Arms They don't have arms That's great I got you The great emu war Took place about 100 years ago I'm pretty sure In the land of Australia Give us the fable A bunch of farmers Again in western Australia They didn't like that emus were Making things difficult for them So they launched a campaign against them Gosh they were being serious Australia fought a literal war Against a bunch of birds And they lost It's not that we lost It's more that we just quit It didn't work You were the one that just described it as A loss Well it was a loss in the sense That we didn't achieve our objective It was a loss in the sense that we didn't win It was like a big battle And the Australians just were defeated What I mean is that we weren't Conquered by the emus We just left them alone You just built a fence around yourself To keep the emus from weighting you out We didn't build a fence for the emus Because I don't think it would work The aliens didn't lose They just went home You couldn't build an effective fence against rabbits Of course you couldn't build a fence We built an effective fence against dingos It's pretty good You got one thing down When a cassowary Or an emus are on different levels I agree That looks like it could possibly fly Well that's a cassowary Emus aren't as hostile I feel like a cassowary Could just kick the earth downwards And then sort of fly as a result Kind of like Or just knock it out of its axis These things seem powerful Like a polevolter Your entire country is like Jurassic Park In real life Hey look, if you leave them alone It's fine That sounds like something a loser would say If you leave them alone They're fine No really And kangaroos are like I said Unless you get really close to them They're okay It's great as long as you're not up close You didn't actually tell us How they fought Oh well So the emus Like they didn't fight It's more that the farmers were unable To successfully curb their numbers That was their goal And they couldn't do it You didn't kill enough Yeah basically Anti-climactic I was imagining This giant war A giant battle of culture Versus humans They gathered up on an empty field In the horizon The shield one is breached The battle of Like in Lord of the Rings The emus on one side Fire at will I've brainstormed ideas of If I were to make a movie I'd call it World War II And it would be It would be like the Serious war film With dudes with assault rifles and shit Going up against emus and the emus With their heads off I thought about this star Well not like that The flashing darkness Is the emus lunges through And the numbers getting reduced I would just make saving Private Ryan Only the Nazis are emus Is it going to star Brad Pitt Well I mean it has to Brad Pitt is trying to like Isn't it World War Z Yeah that is World War Z We had a saying Subscribe You can't beat me You still lost Guys look the emus I love the idea that they're using Like actual military equipment Like light machine guns And they're setting up I can't believe You used machine guns Against birds and you lost Alright look I'm just As he said well He simply didn't win Yeah that's what a loser Well Look alright I'm just saying I'm just saying America would have got the job done Maybe it's a good thing that Australia took all your guns away Because you're clearly not good enough to use them You can't even Win a war against a bunch of birds No wonder You don't deserve guns Here in America I guess a similar issue That we have is with hogs Wild hogs Where there's just so many of them And it's to the point where they let you Ride around in helicopters and shoot them Really? Wow I haven't heard about that law in California But maybe Oh in California maybe not Yeah and a lot of other places You can do that but probably not in California They got weird gun laws But yeah In places where warthogs are really bad You just shoot as many as you want Because there's so many of them With an M16 Well If you have an M16 very few people do But yeah whatever you've got Rifles Generally for hunting though You need at least a minimum size caliber For certain animals so you don't just Like wound it and name it You have to actually use a bullet That'll sufficiently kill them You know quick enough Yeah generally so like 30 caliber That's why a lot of like AK's Are popular around here Because of hogs You have to have like 30 caliber in a lot of states In order to Kill hogs We know we have in California Not warthogs But we have turkeys dude Oh turkeys Lots of turkeys I got these dude I got these six Gross turkeys that come onto my mulch In the summer Every day And they pluck at my mulch And they tear it up And they throw it on my lawn And like I go to my neighbor and I'm like dude can I shoot this thing It's like I don't know California's Going to go to a conservative You can't really touch them You can't really have a gun either Dude fucking with your mulch That is not cool That's kind of the thing we have to institute in Australia Because like historically We were not good at maintaining The ecosystem here It doesn't seem like you're any better nowadays Oh no Let everything burn to the ground What if you just like For example There's an animal called a quoll Quolls are actually really cool animals They're like Possum predators They're like hunter possums Yeah Actually they're really nifty Hold on How easily can these kill a human They're like Don't worry I got one for you So These are These nifty little fellas They're now protected because they often get killed By like Oh my god that's adorable I imagine it would like Rip my eyes out Everything looks cute except for the claws It is a carnivorous species But they're really small So it's okay Well interestingly Ever since the thylacine Which was the Tasmanian tiger Which isn't a cat It's like a dog That used to be the largest I think Land-based mammal predator in Australia But now the tiger quoll isn't It's like a possum size So it's kind of important That we preserve these little fellas Because they're like they're apex predators They are the apex predators Of like A possum That looks like an apex predator to me The cuter it looks the more dangerous it is Australian logic Well But you got like Tasmanian Devils and they're They are pretty cool They scream a lot though Or like they are They scream a lot I don't know I went on Amazon And I bought a slingshot To kill these turkeys Because I couldn't buy a gun And I fucking clocked one in the head And it just walked away Dude I feel like Thanks to you saying that was going to be art made Of you like Just walked away And it came back the next day I mean Well you got to hit them twice maybe three times I don't know I'll get the message eventually Should I break it next time Or a knife I actually saw these flock of turkeys When I was driving recently And if it wasn't for my dogs in my car I would have swerved off The damn rabbit just clobbered them But your dog No seatbelt Oh the dog wasn't buckled up I don't traditionally Buckle up my dogs Oh no I was At the start I was confused As to what difference the dog made And then I was like oh the dog was in the car And you didn't want the dog to get hurt If you went up road Always clarified I would have definitely soccer momed Them at the Soccer momed them At the very least Come to America Soccer momed the turkeys Oh I'm going to have to steal that Just refer to hitting things on the road Soccer moming it While we're on the subject of animal I like how it's just me bringing up all these Australian animals So is it common for like What's the biggest bird In America I thought you were going to ask if it was common For people to lose wars against birds Well We haven't lost any wars Against the poultry We tend to win Well I mean how do you know That California condors Haven't secretly infiltrated your government And are ruling everything Does they have a peace with the condors Well In any case the question I was trying to ask Is What's the biggest bird That you have? Is it the condor or the fold eagle I think the California Condor is the biggest bird In North America But I'm not sure that's purely I mean I just googled that apparently it's the golden eagle Really The golden eagle The wingspan topping 7 feet golden eagles Are the largest hunting birds in North America Okay so they are Oh 50 of them Their length is 66 centimeters to 100 centimeters Okay let me look up I'm pretty sure the west tail of the eagle Has a wingspan of 3 meters Hold on I'm pretty sure All of the American birds Are damn near extinct Unfortunately Condors really are hard to find From what I understand I think they're like ravines Right Actually here we go But These guys have like Massive They're like nobody knows what centimeters is Yeah get on the rest of the world's level West tail of the eagle West tail of the eagle I think it looks like it wants to kill me Well From Australia It's 3 meter wingspan Why do I feel like those things would like Carry nuclear bombs Across the world Like a coalition of all Australian Birds launching a war against the world You shoot me I dropped the bomb Is this what you want? Like you got these little amphibious Planting crots Let off the casuaries of the emus They tried to go in the fence But they couldn't get it high enough Wow That could be the sequel to world war e Just world war a Like resistant war a War for Australia Guys we need the funding we have to Get this thing higher come on Just build a dome around your cities And like pretend the rest of Australia Doesn't exist There's such amazing Eagles in Australia or whatever that they can go to space That's just like a thing they can do It'll be like that Dammit Space birds like Rick and Morty with space snakes They're just hunting space You're telling me that there's a bird that can go to space And you still can't fucking build a fence To keep some rabbits out It's like Every factoid about your country Makes me think very much But there are no birds In space what do they breathe Like what How would they get to space and how would they get back Without burning up Just because it's probably bigger than out by now It's Australia I like that Some people say that Australia's made up And I don't know The more I hear about Australia the more that seems Like it might be the case This doesn't sound like a real place You just claimed that apparently they have birds that go to space Like what's that about No sense at all That's not what I said Everyone heard it It's very simple The birds just put on helmets They put on helmets And then that's all they do They're bird scientists They fall We're good to go Weird visualizations of what Australia Actually is right now Giant birds attacking people with the machine guns You've got walls all the way up to the sky Birds fly to the moon What the hell is going on over there I just think that's what it is They mostly don't attack people Mostly You sound like you do I couldn't imagine that Just people looking at Ripley be like The cute animals don't Usually kill people Well, magpies don't kill people Yeah, magpies, we have those here We have some of them They have Australian ones, they're regs They have fangs Australian magpies, they don't just Steal shiny objects from the nest They commit identity theft All sorts of other crazy Australian versions Working to crash the stock market As we speak I'm just these birds Sitting at their computers Buying up features and like That's trading stocks to plumb At the economy I wonder if my crypto currency just went down Hell Yeah, it was magpies Damn magpies I do like that just a normal Standard magpie is more intimidating than Magpie from Batwoman Just like a normal bird I can't always be afraid I can't believe they brought it back It's like yeah, magpie Someone in the chat said They mostly come out at night Mostly Well, I mean, they're not Well, I think like the majority of Australian animals knock turn all Of course, that's just an added bonus Yeah, they come out at night, of course They do because it's Australia The fucking flowers are nocturnal over there The flowers You have to lock up your flower bed So children don't disappear Oh my god They're like the plants from Jumanji They're Robin Williams one The plants are just they shoot Harbs and stuff in your neck Horrible image of like a kid falling into A flower patch and then the flower patch Just starts eating the kid This is terrifying We need to make this series, this TV show It's Australia, is it real And a bunch of people go there Like adventurers and they all get killed one by one And it's like horror zone Every time someone kills by something Cute and cuddly the Terminator theme Starts playing It's like the Lovecraft shit Where you go there and everyone's just like Weirdly okay, weirdly normal Things are just a little bit off And it's all the stereotypical stuff You hear about, like everyone's saying no And stuff like that and you're just like Walking around, not trusting it And then eventually you see a door that no one's allowed to go into And you're like what is this, it leads to like the real Australia Like Australia too You hear the distant roar of the T-Rex You're like yeah, I do it It's like the upside down Then they push you in Just as you realize it's there And you're like no coming back The funny thing right is the whole idea of You know brown snakes It's pretty obvious why you wouldn't want to go near them But like platypuses are the ones that The surprise I think Yeah they're so cute and cuddly It's the whole thing about Platypuses are the alpha males Like if you would have a species of animals Like platypuses are the most Alpha animals That there are That there's ten women platypuses For every one male platypus That's how competitive they are I love how you just said women platypuses Women platypuses Well yeah, female platypuses Women platypus, yeah Like a woman deer as a doe, yeah They need a better word like platypops Well I And I'm pretty sure that the plural is not like Platypi, it's platypuses You know There's a lot of platypuses I imagine I got another question for you Fring And this is a serious question So I saw this ad from Australia And given how cute and cuddly animals From your country tend to kill people I'm pretty sure this must be true How many minefields are in your beaches How many minefields What do you mean I mean that there's an ad From Australia that I saw Where a bunch of kids skip school And they went to a beach and it was a minefield And they all died No Have you guys never seen this video No, I've never seen the video It sounds like we just made that shit up No, I've not Okay, we're gonna get into a watch together I'm gonna show you guys this It's the greatest portal you will ever see If it is all All the shit that Fring's been saying today could be made up You don't know, we don't know Oh yeah, we had a war with the emus And we have a 5,000 mile long dingo fence And I thought this is real This is a really cool book you're writing I guess It seems weird though Yeah, it seems a little unbelievable No one is ever gonna buy this Space Eagles really Okay I gotta watch together, I'll send you guys the link Is this like a copytism thing at all Or are we just seeing People being blown up by mines Like I don't know What was that kids Don't be beach bums Is Hilarious Australian ad Tells kids not to be beach bums I'm not sure I'll mute it just in case Yeah, that's probably for the best Teppo faces there Ready for whatever I'm terrified for these teenagers He doesn't know what's gonna happen I'm still shocked that none of you have seen this I've never seen this I don't even know what I'm watching Oh you're like a hilarious thing Where they just explode violently It's the greatest ad Ever made This minefield sponsored by Coca-Cola They're just teens having a wonderful time What could go wrong Oh you'll see Oh is she gonna blow up Is she gonna blow up Holy shit Oh my god What the fuck Why would you immediately stop sprinting What are you thinking Oh Oh Well I mean that's what he gets Kind of pissed you out in this country Jesus Christ She said we had to play on TV Well I don't know if it was played on TV But Poor people If only I wasn't a beach bum Oh she died too This is for real You gotta see the message of this ad This is what happens when you slack off You get exploded by My I They put this on TV I don't believe that they did I'm not sure that they put it on TV I believe the five thousand mile Dingo fence over this I just I just love the fact that In Australia this is where the ad comes from Australia makes that kind of shit I just like the idea that like it's not Mines it's just turtles That's Australian turtles that's what they do I just double Check the length of the dingo fence Yeah, it is five thousand six hundred kilometers Geez Yes Especially when it was built in 1880 to 1885 Someone said what the No ring howl Oh The mind turn I'm imagining someone stepping on like a turtle shell And it just makes a clicking sound That's it So there is an animal That lives in the Great Barrier How does it kill you Fringy I'm guessing it does it at night It's like a It looks like a rock and it has these Of course it does Of course it looks like an innocent rock It has pincers, rpgs Like what are we dealing with It has little things at the top Like little sharp pincers and if you Step on it and shoot it Yeah You tell me that this thing is like The nail from Home Alone Um, hold on I don't Is the nail from Home Alone a rock thing That shoots stuff into you Step on it I think nails normally just shoot pain Into you whenever you step on it Horrible, horrible, terrible nail pain It's all that Stonefish Oh I know what you're talking about Yeah The fish that looks like a stone And then it's super poisonous And Thanks nature For making death rocks Nature is metal man That's what I didn't mention The whole fucking reason You know what I was telling you guys about How I was on Reddit looking at the nature is metal stories Um The reason I got on there Was because the video that was shit I think I only said my reaction to the video And also that's pretty terrifying You don't know what that's gonna do That just looks like one of those things you're like Okay explain it to me That's the kind of thing I would see that On the beach and then I would just be like Alright I'm never going to a beach ever again Dude this sword Like fucking face huggers are stored Keep them afloat In jobs That way They can't harm the population You're scary So the one that got me into Into the subreddit Was not into it Like clicked into it Was a video that got highly upvoted It's the zebra Who had a tussle with a crocodile It had tore open the belly And its stomach had come out And the zebra had escaped The clutches of the crocodile Only it was panicking Filled with adrenaline And it kicks its own stomach until it disconnects From itself to escape Oh my god Fuck off Jesus Christ It comes out in a whole bag And it just kicks and kicks and kicks And then spreads away and it's like dude I think you need that To be fair That's great I mean weight loss Option you know it's heavy Considered detaching your stomach Sir I messaged you about it earlier But when you were telling that story What was it the dough that was getting eaten By a Komodo dragon That ripped out the baby I had just ate a burger From five guys Seconds before you told that story And I was like oh wow I'm so glad I wasn't I don't know a lot about Komodo dragons But the thread was all about how Komodo dragons do not give a fuck I think they're like really Fucking dangerous Terrifying Well just look at this shot They look like something out of Walking with beasts, walking with dinosaurs There it is the Komodo dragon You're like oh wow look at that thing Lucky that's the extension I think they're indigenous to the Darwin island Correct me if I'm wrong You gotta go out of your way Wait does Australia not have these ones Well they're near Australia They probably have something worse They're the only ones that got out of Australia They're so fucking badass My god you didn't need to build another fence Well the interesting thing is I remember watching a thing that talked about How we used to have mega marsupials So we used to have like three Mega marsupials That's another class mega A long time ago Like millions of years ago Kind of like the mega creatures That you had in North America Before they were hunted to extinction I'm not sure what happened to these ones They're just not around anymore That's a nifty little avatar You know Komodo dragon is probably one of the cooler animal names Yeah Well the island is called Komodo That's why it's called a Komodo dragon It's like what is the coolest animal name And I know that it's not really fair Cause like some of them are cool because of the animal Chinchilla Well I guess Crocodile is cool regardless That was a pretty cool animal name I feel like Komodo dragons got a skull pretty high up I think so Yeah Imagine if those things actually had wings What Komodo Yeah Like walking around and then you see a Komodo dragon Oh god Swipping in like an actual dragon on wing That is Komodo dragons had wings I think we would have actually left the planet by now Well I don't think we would have made it We're just giving it to them we're like it's alright you guys can take it Um Okay so Apparently Apparently Komodo dragons So Komodo's group behavior in hunting Is exceptional in the reptile world The diet of the big Komodo dragons Consists of Timor deer So these These are fast enough To hunt deer Well maybe they're ambush predators Like alligators and stuff Yeah the video I saw was actually like It's hard not to assume these things Just like causing pain It was just a little Fawn giving birth And it's just like yep this is for me It's like oh no Well yeah it says that Komodo's attacks on humans are rare But evidently they've happened Um Wow I imagine it's one of those things where they're like don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you And you're like okay alright Yeah I was fine Anything you say absolutely Mr. Mr. Dragon I don't remember what it was from But I remember hearing or watching this Like episode of some Show forever ago Of some guy who was like hiking on Komodo island And he Got sick with something I don't remember what it was but he was being hunted by Komodo dragons while he was sick And then he eventually keeled over And died and the dragons got him And all that was left was the No camera footage because he was filming a documentary Doing it Well Komodo dragons are venomous I believe I know we're just Piling on horrible things about this creature But I think they're also venomous It was like 10 years since I seen this So I don't remember all the facts behind it Apparently they might be venomous Maybe they don't know for sure How the fuck do we not know for sure You want to go near them and try and find out Do you think that we'd have like Technology that would allow us to do things How can we find out that a snake is venomous But not a Komodo dragon How does one pin down like a Komodo Dragon How do you tranquilize it when it's got like Giant Look at it Does anything come through that You use spear tranquilizers okay You fucking dig it in I'm pretty sure that like Saltwater crocodiles are so strong That like lower caliber bullets Can't actually penetrate Okay well what if we drug up a baby With tranquilizers Well yeah but the high caliber bullet Will just kill it Oh no not that Well if it's dead can't we Extract like poison from its poison glands Or something How did it live man Yeah I feel like The rules to life are not fair Dude The fucking eagles got to space before we did Like I don't think that we can really say What this planet has in store for us I feel like you can put like You know those stat screens Of like the strengths And weaknesses of enemies And then you get to like some absurdly unfair Enemy that has only one very Specific weakness You just got strength stacked up On the entire right side of the screen He is what you call a meta build Yeah I feel like you could put those Next to almost any animal in Australia And it would make sense I mean I I don't know I may Like you could put next to emus Just invincible Don't try Do not engage Extremely dangerous I feel like emus would just be that they have Like in Pokemon when they just keep doing Like speed up or evade up And so every attack emiss is It's nothing but sand attacks So you can't even Oh my god And it screeches that you Dude early game Early game with metapod just keeps using hard And you're like stop it Stop With it this is your doomed Just doing that out of spite Metapod like I don't know I guess I'll just get harder I guess Australia is filled with Dark Souls bosses I wonder What the names would be for like the bosses In Dark Souls in Australia Emu of I don't know Like emu of the Boreal Valley Emu of the Abyss Deathbird of Gorloc Cassowary soul of Cinder Razor feather Deathbeak You wouldn't need to change Komodo Dragon That's fine Just keep that one Komodo is like the DLC for when you venture Like you know to the islands So he's like Gale or whatever He's cool I don't know that much about Dark Souls The beast of Komodo Island I can't tell if that was a laugh Or a cough It was both Choose one Greedy Australian What wanting to laugh and cough How dare I Why did you want to cough Yeah it's a clear threat Yeah clear the air Yeah I think that's okay we can approve of that I'm glad you asked us permission first though Your approval Your approval Hey uh I think people are gonna explode if I don't ask Mr. Tone What do you think is like better Like if you were to choose one as the better one Would it be Christmas or Halloween Uh Halloween for sure Oh yeah Oh yeah I like dressing up Welcome to team Halloween my brother I left you real though when we were kids Like Christmas was the shit Oh yeah sure Yeah Christmas is meeting Over time I feel like Rags you'll probably Christmas run Of course Christmas is better than Halloween He's not even close it's obvious I mean it's obvious if you know You're just a What do you mean friggy your pro Christmas too Why are you saying it like it's a weird thing Uh huh You said it like oh your pro Christmas right It's like so are you it's okay it's alright I wasn't saying anything It's nothing to be ashamed of we give you permission The two of us are pro Christmas It's like a political candidate Well I do I like I mean I think uh because we talked about this The other day part of the reason why I'm Very slanted towards Christmas is because There's just not a lot of exposure to Halloween In Australia like all I've had was tree house Of horror Australia's just Halloween every day Yeah I mean even if you did have Halloween You'd still prefer Christmas because it's Halloween I mean it's Halloween you can't compare to Christmas I really like Christmas Christmas is cool I'm not going to be As mean as Shad and say Halloween is worthless Did Shad get like touched by Halloween As a child He had a I don't know if it was Prepared but that was a speech and a half That rant like It Disturbed me a little bit It was like Shad what happened to you On Halloween I suppose people are curious about Your your leanings wolf um funnily Enough they would discover it Is it in the second Reaction set so it would be after this Reuploading By every measure Well there you go Um Well yeah That was something Speech I mean Oh definitely he was he was going for it And I you know I respect the passion Um What What What was the case Oh he I mean to be honest with you All I remember he was just shitting all over Halloween he was like Halloween is the worst thing ever Really wasn't even any Arguments Never heard any He look He has a passion for Christmas and like I said I can't deny that shit that was good but Halloween I think it was done I think it was done dirty you know in that speech Peace on My ass there's no peace on earth I guess Christmas is um There's there's a certain I don't really like to build up to Christmas Is all at all but like Christmas day I've always liked I really Like Christmas day Even if it doesn't snow here and instead It's like 45 degrees and Boiling But uh I feel like Halloween is universal but like Christmas I came from a poor family so I got Like no presents And like Nintendo 64 And all who can think about is what he can get From it that's just Sad to hear it Sad to hear it Sad to hear it Giving when you can just buy What you want at any point of time And it can be The worlds come to I think well I don't know that like gift giving is one of the things I mean immediately I take on Christmas so There's like three major things about it There's the gift part which becomes Relevant once you get a Job and a credit card in an Amazon account No it doesn't because you get to give gifts to the People that you love Yeah if you have the money to do that which If you have a job like you said if you have a job And a credit card and all that stuff then you can do that So it never becomes irrelevant Well that's not exactly True it depends on how much job you Selfish little elf that's all I hear Selfish little Halloween redlands You do slave driving With the elves so you can't really That's fucked up dude The elves can leave whenever they want They're allowed to unionize And they can do all the stuff that they want The other thing Like The elves unionizing against He wakes up one day and sees It's just an understood thing you know we gotta Make sure that you know we're all On the same page here and think you're okay The elves standing across from Santa like They are the board It's more symbolic than anything else It's like we want to finish at five Fuck you finish at five Finish my fucking like iPads I wanted to actually Switch focus just a little bit to Either I mean It's totally up to you Tom but With either talking about games Because you clearly like games Or I heard You weren't too much of a fan And I'd like to maybe explore this with you The certain Star Wars movies Or Game of Thrones season eight I would totally love to talk about that Leave it up to the chat I am a Giving person rags Apparently not I don't like I don't love it but I like it To wait till Christmas to be giving rags Unlike everyone else who pretends to be In the givingest time of the year All of a sudden Don't have any money Game of Thrones style Oh god this is a big collection What do we do A lot of Star Wars Game of Thrones I will say though Let me cut in here I will say though I know more about Game of Thrones I'll go for it Wolf and Frenny We're talking about before the Podcast started I have not seen The Mandalorian Just throwing it out there That's alright I know it's a A heated Topic I've heard Well I can't I mean we agree But I don't think everybody agrees With our take on it Yeah literally being in the minority That it's very very beloved But You think it's beloved Oh it is yeah it's rated Really really highly already But I don't think it's very good at all In fact I think it's quite terrible That's the video I'm working on right now Can we get the cliff notes In case Game of Thrones wins I would like to hear Why I guess if I was gonna give Cliff notes Don't think that the characters are consistent The plot is basically nonsensical A lot of contrivances It's nothing anything really special with Why it's bad Yeah it's just not Offensively bad like I don't Hate it with any kind of personal thing And it's not like The last Star Wars movies Or Game of Thrones season 8 Doesn't really ruin anything I just don't think it's a well written And well made show I see why people like it Not catastrophic but Oh yeah it's just bad It doesn't destroy things It doesn't crap all over beloved characters And retcon a whole bunch of lore What you're referencing with that Could be anything What do you think it could be a selection Of like 7 different things but yeah Let me ask you guys a question I know some of you guys do like Really long form stuff When you like sit down To Write about something or think about something Do you approach it in like Okay is this movie Was it not Was it made poorly or Did I not enjoy it What's your viewpoint when you go into those I'm glad you asked that's kind of like Our thing is that we take Our enjoyment And whether it's of good quality And we're pretty good at separating the two Kind of I would say it's almost Like the core of EFAP Is separating the subjective From the objective nature Of media and we are fully Ready to say that something is terrible But we love it or it's great and we just don't like it Yeah we try and create a structure And then sort of As things come out we're like how does it Fair in the structure and then it's like Also what did you think of it like How did it make you feel How did it give you the goods or the bads or the nothings And I think the main Reason why that's valuable is because If it's strictly talking about what people Like and don't like it makes it very Hard to know whether or not Like if you're looking at a review for something And it's all like and don't like That's very subjective And so it doesn't Help you you know what I mean It's almost impossible to know Like where something is going to sit In terms of like a rating If it's all strictly how somebody Felt because it's really vague And it's just like If you're just going by how you feel How can you really know if it's like Of high quality or not Because feelings are so Why you like things can be For an uncountable amount Of different reasons If you like broke up with a girlfriend and watched the thing And then you're like this was shit And then you watch it like a year later when you're happy And you're like oh why did I hate this so much Easily swayed opinions Through like all kinds of different You know influences I guess And so it's really hard sometimes to be like Wait what was it actually And not to mention recanting events in a thing Can actually be really funny because We covered someone once upon a time who was convinced That Han Solo was killed By Rey He might have remembered that part Of the movie Let's just call it he had alternative facts Yes There may have also been another person Who very firmly believed That Gimli wanted Frodo To die The best thing about that one Is that they double checked They took the time to say this is True don't tell me it's not You're like okay alright That's just really Funny to me Well yeah so did we decide in Game of Thrones or Whatever the other option was Take the conversation away What do you want to know Actually just before you jump into it Because I will unfortunately I have to depart for now But I will be back later It is very good Speaking to you And I guess I'd throw my name for Game of Thrones as well If that's like the direction you're taking it in So yeah Good to meet you man I think you ruined Australia For me though It's not it's a good country Just don't approach Yeah all that said it's actually great Oh it's the wildlife That's it it's fine Everything else is really nice But yeah Look it's a great country But the landmines No I'm flipping it the other way around Wildlife excluded And I actually think the animals are really cool The landmines Yeah The same way that Warhammer 40k is cool Yeah Well I think it's a really Unique and interesting ecosystem And I think it's important that we preserve it I think the loss of this world has A united ecosystem Or the vast majority of living Organisms in Australia It's not that bad of a place to be Like I'm just saying You need to be killed or eaten by pretty much Everything that walks here but yeah come on by Walks, flies, crawls, dips Like yeah Even the rocks are like an inject poison Into your feet Yeah Friggy says stay indoors but yeah it was It was good talking here And good luck with the rest of it until I come back When it's uh We look in like four, five, six, seven Hours what we're doing Probably like six or six hours You might be able to get back into this Very stream Oh yeah maybe Yeah maybe I'll let you know But uh yeah alright catch you later guys Absolutely Goodbye Let me ask a question real quick as he cuts out How, so you guys have been streaming For and by the way I sit down to play a video game For like two hours I'm like creaking and groaning And the chair for 14 hours At this point I haven't been shifting my cheeks around here Yeah I try to do a little bit of Eating and drinking Oh yeah you know A lot of this happens once per week So relatively used to it but yeah Drink your fluids, move your body around And get them breaks while you can You know healthy memes Like you did a health video recently right Yeah it just it reminds me Like my very first job Which was at a call center Selling like CDs and stuff for a bank And I had to sit down in the chair for Eight hours and I got Two Ten minute breaks outside my lunch Geez I'm like I thought that was like literal torture So like I could bet you guys for The stamina Honestly it's the friends That keep us going and the entertainment And the chat, the interaction It's all very engaging As someone in chat Just said mollus buttocks are highly experienced True They're like big pillows I mean you got Chiseled ass cheeks You shift around a bit Here and there but you know a lot of it does Come down to who are you hanging out With what are you talking about If you've got something engaging To you know that you care About that you know a lot with If you're having a good time If you're laughing and enjoying yourself It's a lot easier than just sitting In the chair by yourself Being all alone and sad I gotta say I've gotten a lot of invites for podcasts And this is the first one I've ever done He does love us I hope you found it It's been weird I know No no You guys are pretty funny Actually I had no idea Oh by the way Gotta get this out of the way Where did tonal Originate what does it mean I know there's gotta be something Big behind that curtain I can explain I feel like I should So One of your videos I don't remember Which one it was It had tone loke At the bottom of it and we were like What does tone mean And we just jokingly were like What do we fill in Because tone's definitely gotta be A shortened version of your name Obviously Tony But uh We just memed it and uh Just combined Donald and tone And came up with tonal That's not obvious don't say like it's obvious Because tone and Tony are the same amount of letters Yeah I I wasn't sure Just now that he's told us in this call Yeah So without spelling them I can totally see how tone is short for Tony One's got one syllable one's got two So in that sense it's shorter But um I had no idea Like tone was short and it just seemed tonal Was funny and then we were like Until we get proper weird on it That must be canon Okay I Shall accept it I like it It's a name of a If you had a friend That's kind of like their name you know It's a tonal I feel like there's a little bit more to it But for now I'm cool with it Um Some things have humble origins So I don't want you to spoil too much But like what can we expect Cooking wise Do you want to entice Tease a little bit I'm telling you man It's been tough I've been really thinking about it And um Maybe we can get some chat Action here help me out But um at the moment I don't have any solid plans For who I'm a teacher And it's sad because I really liked doing those videos And while they were my most popular videos I found a lot of joy in them I think that might just be Newish like they're newish from your channel So sometimes if someone swaps The kind of content they do They might lose some old people And they need to build up the you know A new crowd of people who like that stuff But they are very good I agree um it actually It's kind of a window into my past actually Into YouTube you know At one point Around 2018 2017 I kind of stumbled into this Weird Creative Dramatic Just really condescending YouTuber Um I think a couple of us did A couple big YouTubers I mean Tyler from Clean Prince And um I got stuck on that road for a long time I don't know how I ended up there But I got like really unhappy Like just Constantly like waking up And putting out like pretty much garbage videos On a daily basis You know like a good way to grow the channel at the time And I was At first it was kind of enjoyable But as like time went on I decided like I needed to shift Um I The way I approached content And I started to explore different ideas The food thing was Pretty much during the apex Of my transitionary phase Like um I'd say over the past year or so I've pretty much gone With like my old My old self on YouTube Um that really negative Presence Um Started to focus on like celebrating games And stuff like that and like the food thing Was just like this natural like Experimentation Avenue for me because Unless be honest like If you're a full time YouTuber It's really tough to like Balance your own happiness With what's good for you financially And Saying it like that is kind of demeaning almost Because it It almost takes away from why You would want to become a creator right You fall into this trap of like Being like almost depressed Like you mean like you know what Um what works better for let's say Algorithms and sort of checks and clicks And stuff when So you might start edging toward that Instead of edging toward just doing what you love Yeah yeah I mean that's the essence of it right Um and then When you're like I was I was financially strapped to The position as well because I quit my job and it was like 2016 or so And it was a big job you know I went to School for like 8 years To get my MBA and I decided to fill the shoes of This YouTube channel was it was really Based off of my Passion for gaming Like the second you lose that which I know A few YouTubers that have gone down that road Myself included you know guilty It's like you can either Keep going down that road or you can like Try to Transition out but You strapped to it financially so It's like this weird balance and I think that's kind of like a topic That doesn't get discussed a lot among YouTubers is Like are YouTubers actually happy Oh man People have a An idyllic sort of version of it Like it's They don't see it as a job that comes With all of the issues that a more Typical and traditional job might have They think of it in a very romanticized Sort of idealistic way And that's That's really not how it is for A certain demographic of people on YouTube You know there's guys like You guys who seem to like Do what you want to do and you have Communities behind them that's Do what you want to do and it makes you happy which is cool But then like there's some YouTubers Who primarily exist in the realm of like Developing news content Daily content Dramatic or provocative content you know Like tackling issues like EAs a shitty Company micro transactions This special edition Is predatory you know like issues Like that and like Those are way different Than someone who just does it for the love of What they do So like I'm trying to get From that point To a place where I'm like generally Happy with everything I put out And I've pretty much been there for like Six months now and it feels good but Kind of circling back to what you were saying It's a new concept It's radical It has pretty much nothing to do With the wants and needs Of probably all the viewership Up until this point so I'm hoping that I can continue to make the videos and At some point They'll take off and Keep going One thing we noticed about Especially when the cooking video started Was compared to your old stuff From when we first saw you And before and All that is like this dramatic uptick And quality and passion Everything from it was written better Seeing you do everything You seem to be really into it Everything from the slow-mo cameras And the high quality footage To turning out a finished product It looked like, like what you did Isn't something that everyone Could do almost to the point Where I feel like it might even be detrimental Because it's so high It's so high skill And high quality sort of stuff But not something that you can't Like Inevitably teach people to do it And then get more people into it And get more engagement over time It's a huge difference in a good way No, I know what you're saying It's like where's the connection point For the person watching it Is it the food? Is it the stupid jokes? Is it the green screen stuff? Or is it the actual person behind The video? That's a big topic in itself Like do you go out and watch your YouTubers For them? Or do you watch it because the video title Made you want to click on it And then you just start to see How it's been in that ladder camp Which Took me to a place where I was like Okay, I want something different So that's kind of why I started it You've got a personality That would definitely attract people You're very approachable You're not A hoity-toity, sort of Better than you kind of guy You're someone that I think pretty much anybody Could relate to and listen to and talk with The cooking aspect comes right through in terms of just like oh this I want to see what I was gonna say I noticed um definitely something changing when you when you did your um your video on the the three Games it was was it Mario 64 Banjo-Kazooie and a third one that that was the video That was literally the video. Yeah, but that was I liked it Dude, that's what we said. You're gonna be fucking dead It's good. I just didn't give a shit at that point. I just wanted to do something that was interesting and That's kind of a little bit of a spin on donkey stuff or donkey. Sorry Very short snappy stupid Yeah, yours is good Something real quick we cover or have covered a lot of people over the course of the show We're pretty bad content creators and who refuse change No matter how legitimate the criticism no matter how consistent they How consistently rather they commit the same mistakes And they just refuse to do anything different to improve their content I think you might be at least to my memory The only person that we've ever covered on the show who exponentially grew So much better with your content and I'll be the first to admit I really didn't like your content when I first saw it, but I genuinely love it now It's really really good really well written really well edited and you can The the passion in it is really palpable as you're watching it We actually feel like care about it and that's amazing. It's better than Are you okay with us like You know promoting it semi-regularly basically like we like watching the cook it was for sure because they're like a lot of fun And we would absolutely like encourage Because chat been filling up with hearts as you've been talking. Um, well here's the thing Let me cut you off, dude. Sorry, but I just want to say your your community has been really like nice to me um I'm getting like all these followers and comments and nice things You've said in the my twitter feed and stuff like that so I just want to say thank you to um, like I I have no idea who you guys are I just came on board because um Something new something fresh, but uh your your community has really reached out and given me a A warm welcome. So I just want to thank you guys Absolutely Like those videos are really fucking good, but we we Often rank like like and try and figure out what the best stuff is and like yours is I don't even off the top of my head. I'm trying to think of like what what are the best videos we covered And it's like it's gonna be the two cooking videos are gonna be really up there like really enjoyed them Appreciate that. I think the turning point um He hasn't cut me off of him going too far, but uh Was when I had this I think it was summer 2017. I was I was kind of depressed actually My girlfriend and I had broken up. I had moving out to uh, like an apartment. I was all alone but my channel was growing enormously like I was getting Tons of views, but the content I was putting out like I'll admit it. It was it was pretty low quality I would just go on reddit every morning look for the most controversial issue and I would I basically just take that and and craft in my opinion story on it and put on youtube and um Eventually this guy and I've never mentioned this guy ever because My philosophy in terms of like haters and stuff like that Is I don't interact with them Usually a wise idea I never ever It's just a personal thing with me I don't ever go after people or talk bad about people Because I believe like in respect whether or not you don't you like the person or not I don't like to slander people or talk behind people's backs I've never ever made a video about anyone on my channel for the exception of There's like an angry joe video where we're actually supported him But there was this guy In 2000s, I think it was 2017 name trolls us. I still remember his name and he He made a video about me and it was it was pretty bad. Um from from what I heard to this day I actually haven't watched it because It's I mean it's tough sometimes when when people It wasn't critique. I've heard it was it was a slandering. You know what I mean? It was a push someone into the mud and rub their face in the well dirt not not trying to like I'll do you in any way she before but we have lots of experience in that department. Yeah, scary amount of experience Oh, I mean I hate our guts Well, you're always gonna have haters, but this particular guy Um, I don't know what happened with the algorithm Or or what but it just started this series of hate videos about me And there was I think there was like 10 or 15 videos I never watched any of them But um, I got into this this space where I was like getting depressed I don't know if you guys have ever dealt with like You know the job of you the youtube itself like actually making you sad Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, I was on youtube for eight years. I actually ended Doing youtube videos back in last december just because the depression had been getting to me So much over the years. So It's definitely feel you there Do you feel better now? Oh, yeah, I mean like I was telling you before we started up the stream I mean I pretty much gutted social media out of my life and it's been Much better. I mean there's still issues. It's you know clinical chronic depression So it's not really something that goes away, but you know getting the negative things out of my life has definitely helped me in a Very substantive way That's that's my whole philosophy Just do not surround yourself with negativity. Oh, absolutely Surround yourself with people who will support you and be there for you And positive people and this was exactly what this guy was this guy was this negative atomic bomb Like while I was in the process of going through like I don't want to say clinical depression because I've never been diagnosed with depression But I had reached an all-time low my channel was growing But I was so unhappy to the point where I would like not be able to sleep And I remember really fondly like walking out into my living room. I had a one bedroom You know get out of bed couldn't sleep walk into my living room I would literally just open the blinds and stare up at the moon dude and just I was like really unhappy So like that That event in 2017 That basically set off a chain reaction with me over the course of the course of next year where I had to like really find myself again Go through the learning process of What happened who I become How far down you know the rabbit hole I went How do I get back up? How do I make myself happy? because I for damn sure I wasn't happy doing what I was doing and I guess this is a question for you guys Do you think I probably don't even have to say any names but those individuals that they operate youtube channels and they all they do is slander and hate Like do you think it's possible for someone to enjoy their own life living in that environment? Um, I think it takes a special kind of person to do that. Um I certainly don't think a lot of people can it's one thing to be an audience member Around that kind of content all the time where you're looking for drama You're looking for know who fucked up big this week Who can we who can be our target this week? You know, they want to be like vampires like they only survive off other people falling Yeah, hive mind Yeah, there's a lot of internet blood sport kind of stuff a lot of That kind of content that I learned very quickly to stay away from it brings nothing but misery And they love to get personal, uh, which is a bit of a worry Something I've noticed about a lot of the people that attack uh, cfap and anyone affiliated with it is uh That a lot of them post about how upset they are Like quite a lot on twitter Some of it comes across as like please give me attention and sympathy points, please But if any of it's genuine and just for the sake of argument, I'll give them the benefit the doubt and assume it is It it seems that a lot of them don't seem to be very happy with themselves And they kind of lash out and attack other people to kind of project that anger onto somebody else because if we ever get to talk to any of them It's always it's just like this really chill really civil and they get to talk for as long as they want I mean, that's probably it's pretty much the what you were talking about wolf is almost emblematic of the culture of people Especially with social media. It's like with autonomy Your computer screen becomes A shield that can't be penetrating and you can pretty much say whatever you want and it hurts Which is why just personally I've never ever gone out of my way to ever I think the only time I ever featured someone besides angry joe on my channel was this article by kataku Which was a publication at one point I respected but I've changed my mind sense I think a lot of people are in the same boat Yeah Yeah, um, there was an article written by this It doesn't matter if it's a man or woman, but it was a woman Talking I think it was titled If you get harassed in an online video game speak up which To me as someone who who knows how to placate toxicity by Not encouraging Riling you know rallying people up and putting yourself in the position where you're attacked I basically made a video that said, you know what this is probably not the best idea But yeah people are harassing you the what they want more than anything else is to get a a reaction from you They want to see that what they're doing is bothering you Yeah, it was basically I was basically an article talking about How we should rally around people that are getting harassed in online video games And and basically tell the other person to shut the f up Which obviously if you have one brain cell, you know that that's going to instigate more Wait, it reminds you of like the bully hunters thing even if it worked Like the idea is just like you're only going to make everything worse the idea that you send people into a game You counter grief. It's like, oh, that's Yeah, they don't seem to understand people like trolls like that who do that sort of stuff It is a badge of honor if they get a bully hunter sent after them Yeah, like that's amazing. That's what they're going to try to do I hate to be political but In terms of more of a meta narrative scope It's the same issue with the news You know when there's a god forbid school shooting They posterize the killer Which is what they want they want the attention and what the fame that's the only thing they want When in fact, we should be never mentioning the name of that person. Yeah Not talking about anything, but we should be focusing on the victims but no mainstream media evangelizes Those kinds of anti-heroes to the point where Even on the social media platforms like twitter or whatever it becomes a point of attraction for people like to strive for and that's really unfortunate I think it's surround youtube and being in the sphere of Making content and a lot of people have no idea what it is until it's directed their way because most people are just audiences They don't have any level of personal stake in it. They don't have to worry about someone making a video And you know tens of thousands of people You know having some error of yours or perceived error of yours Or you know kind of put out there Yeah, it's it's a People don't know how to relate to it until it happens to them and eventually a lot of people Just get a thick skin built up maybe Um, oh I have yeah, it's tough to explain to people who haven't had it happen to them Well, the what I always tell people is Who are like mean? Instead of like fighting back with these people. I always say the same thing. Well, I actually have never said this But if I was going to say it This is what I would say You go out there put your heart and soul to something piece of music a piece of art a youtube video You go out there bust your ass Put a bunch of energy into making something you truly love and then Have me come up on your video and tear you to shit unfairly Tell me how that feels And it kind of speaks to the idea that there is a divide between creators and viewers where Sometimes they don't see the psychological battle of being a youtuber because all they see is the content Yeah, they don't have any stake in it for them for most people It it's just it stops and ends that there are some people and they are a free source of entertainment for me And that's where it totally ends. I don't have any investment really and You know, like I have no personal stake in it I can always go to someone else or I can you know laugh at someone or mock them I could chase them around and I can hound them down. It doesn't matter to me Like it's it's not my problem and if something bad happens to them I'll just move on to the next person. It's no biggie. It's just cycle that always happens They've never had that target on their back Yeah, there's no cost to youtube at all anyway It's the people who make the content That are the ones who are the most at risk and the most Invested in everything and they have the most to lose I'd actually love to see like a statistic on I don't know if you could do a poll or or whatever, but You could you could branch it out by type of youtuber or type of content whether they're community driven or Content driven how many of those people are actually happy? I'm not talking about the people who just do it for fun You know, like I don't know if you guys do a full time away But you know the person that just puts out a video every couple months because they love what they do I'm talking about the people who who do it for Basically a necessity, you know sustenance Like are those people happy or not? Yeah, do they feel trapped? I think it would be an interesting at least thought experiments who uh I think one of the issues is that this is kind of a new thing So the data and the numbers just aren't quite there yet because you you tell people Like hey, what do you do for a living? I was like, oh, I make youtube videos I do a podcast online and it's like a new weird foreign thing to them Like people are like, oh, you can get paid for doing that or that's a job That's what you do for a living and I have no idea because it's so new to some people Yeah, I was at um people before kovat And during my job Someone asked me like what I what I do for a hobby and I just so happened to mention that I make youtube videos on the side It's like what? You get money from that? How? Sister's wedding uh distant valley beaver was just like what does that mean review movies? What do you mean? But you make videos like how does that what how can that make money? You talk into a microphone Yeah Yeah, I think as time rolls on and it becomes more and more mainstream to do this sort of thing a streaming podcasting Internet media work becomes more and more just commonplace and understood by people it will I'm curious to see what the psychology data eventually turns back because the people who consume it who watch youtubers Watch the stuff they go through the people who do it themselves We sort of kind of have we we get hunches about You know what it is. We've seen the stories of people going crazy and losing their minds and stuff like that and You think it's driven by their success or lack there of success or I mean, I think so I'm happy to agree. Well, I think some people are trapped into it. Yeah, I mean you have a big with the video Uh, you're the algorithm works in your favor for a while all of a sudden you've got all this attention All of this money's rolling in and the money can be great And you've got you're like a kind of a quasi celebrity essentially But are you equipped to deal with that? Are you equipped to have people find out who you are and where you live? Are you ready to accept the idea that people are going to be watching for all of your mistakes that you ever make and On the internet nothing will ever be forgotten and for a lot of people. That's just not something they can handle No way, so they find success and they don't want to lose the success But at the same time they're just tortured by all the stuff that comes along with it. There's a lot of baggage yeah, and to shine a bright light on a dark painting what I've found recently is you can really garner a great satisfaction from Knowing that people love what you do And it really fills me with joy when I when I read comments and I was like, oh man, you made my day Oh, this is awesome. Do it cool video, man. You You made me feel good I'm like it's a good feeling It's like that is what I'm after these days. I'm not after the fucking money or the viewership or whatever I'm just about Expressing things that I feel with inside me and then given given those to someone else Whether that's teaching people how to work out or cook or sharing you know, my favorite games or whatever there's There's this like sensation inside of me where it's like I'm done doing to just to do it now I want to Make people feel good and myself good at the same time. So they're there. Yes, there's like a There's a psychological dark side that we've been droning on about for 30 minutes. That's very depressing But if it wasn't worth it, we wouldn't do it. I was gonna say it's a reality. It's good to talk about it yeah, there's but what I'm trying to say is there's Great things that happen when people come together on youtube and for the first time in my channel since I went down that road I previously discussed. I'm starting to realize that and it feels good Yeah, when it seems like it seems like such a tiny little thing Someone just hyping a little youtube comment That says, you know, you did a great job or that it made their day or that they really enjoy So happy to watch your stuff but Something so tiny can really really mean a lot to the person you send it to it's because People always remember with a bad and they never remember the good one of my favorite Favorite ways to think about that is like when I was 21 working my way through college um You know, I told you guys I was poor earlier My family wasn't ever able to help me pay tuition or get in the apartment or buy a car I I gambled for a living playing one two no limit sometimes two four, but it's beside the point You always remember your bad beats You never remember The ones you won it's always that one tiny little detonator Whether it's a bad beat, you know, you had a you had a straight On the turn the guy rivers flush. He shouldn't have been in the hand, but he was whether it's that or A comment you receive on youtube You're always gonna remember that one stinger, you know what I mean And when you get those little blips from people Awesome job, man. This is this is cool. You made my day That washes away A lot of that bad stuff and it becomes a place where Yeah, man. This is cool This this can be cool It makes you feel like it's bigger than yourself, you know When you get an email from someone who says like I was struggling with depression And I even had like suicidal thoughts and I was in a really rough place But watching your content like it really helped me to stay positive and it helped me through a really bad point in my life There's things like that that you're like it makes you think this you know what I do It isn't just me it really does extend to it extends outwards and it's Really kind of humbling in a way. I'll tell you what is a lot my the most Watched video on my channel is a video on video game addiction called the bitter reality of the addiction, but I'll tell you what dude. I received upwards of 10,000 emails In response to to the million people who watched me and the countless people who repeat watch me or whatever I have an email box full of between seven and 10,000 emails I'd say a good 500 of those are deep hugely emotional stories about people And the most dire situations Completely addicted to games They don't know where to turn. They don't know how to get out of it. Some dude. Some of these people are like 10 They email me these novels. I still get emails trickling in Lost their job to a video game They're they're mortgaged. They can't afford the mortgage because they they lost their job because they were too addicted to world of warcraft or CS go or whatever And like these people have these crazy situations That I would never have been able to impact and some of those emails were dude, you made me find a light Yeah, I can get past this You know, some of them are of course help me, you know Help me through this or whatever which That's it's personal. You can't really help someone out To go through that kind of situation you can give them tips But you have to go through that yourself But so many of them were these really wonderfully like redemption style emails of I had this video game addiction. It was ruining my life. I lost my wife I have no money But watching your video realized made me realize I have some hope and I always think back to that video when I think about like Why am I doing this on youtube? am I playing games just to write essays so that I can force my opinion down Other people's throats and get them to think exactly how I feel now Like I think about like the notion that this platform can help people it can hurt them and it could aid in the the sickening spread of, you know technology addiction and social media If if people just can't get off the thing But at the end of the road for the right person, even if it's just one person like you can you can help someone and Do that video I think that's the video that I'm most proud of because it pretty much knocks on everything you just said in regards to the the weird society that we live in and the The troubles that you can find yourself in viewer or creator on this platform dude You should be giving ted talks. That was the most inspirational shit. That's ever been said on the show You got us captivated. I'm the audience That I give that credit to my MBA program where I had to Weekly give giant presentations in front of CEOs and hundreds of Harvard grad faculty members That shit was scary Talking to a couple lads on the internet. It's not too bad Well, I mean, I'm really thankful you did I think everyone is What's uh, so for your your videos coming up. I I suppose I think maybe it was asked before Any plans I guess or just kind of seeing where the wind takes you or you're going to experiment with some new things Or kind of keep a common thread going Yeah, that's a good question. Um, I think that some people have Or know that I've returned to full-time work Um different job, but same industry same actually the exact same position ironically So my needs on youtube are not driven financially anymore So everything I put forward on the channel or on my channel going forward is 100 passion It's only what I want to do. It's only the things that are going to make me happy There's been some experimentation um I've got this idea Speaking of food. I've got this idea of creating this Um short series called gamer food And I've got some recipes that I've developed that take unhealthy foods And make them healthy I call them gamer foods because I think gamers should be eating healthy given art Sometimes poor eating habits poor posture and poor nutrition. Yeah, it's not eating Editary nature of video games is typically Yeah, I don't want to stereotype people Um and put people in buckets, but I think Oh, that's just right. I need this series to exist for my health I would be interested in it as well. I could do myself But I'd love to get some insight on that sort of thing. Yeah, so I filmed the first episode and um It just didn't come out the way I wanted it to so I put on a back burner, but I've got these recipes for chocolate cake pancakes rice And I want to do like a short playlist on my channel where you can find like basically a recipe book And you can cook along with me It would be much much less formal than the restaurant style videos with all the sexy food porn slow motion stuff Oh, man, I was I was just about to say we were kind of saying when we watch these videos I was like, man, this is such high stuff that I wonder how approachable it is for the, you know, the average person But if he kind of lowered it down to the rest of our level and did like a gamer cook Yeah, a gamer cooking kind of thing that people could really do with You know more typical stuff. I think there'd be a really big interest in that Potentially because I can't think of anybody else who does it Yeah, I mean that was the original design for the food stuff. Anyway, it was to do something no one else did but um, what I've realized with filming Off of a webcam and on an actual camera in an actual location like a kitchen It's way more challenging than you really think in terms of lighting And cinematography like to shoot A high quality kitchen demo or like a food commercial In an industrial kitchen or a home kitchen. It requires a tremendous amount of work Just moving the damn camera around Tripods, you know the islands in the way you got a reposition lights Is the is the shot a backlit? Is there enough exposure? What's the depth of field? Can I slow motion this shot? Is there enough light like All of that stuff gets factored in which creates an incredibly time-consuming process for the two videos I've done Basically the the 10 minute videos you guys have seen took me about eight hours um, fucking god forbid the food's cold at the end You gotta film the thing right so like half the food's cold um Yeah, it's just kind of a mess I would like to do a less formal version of this particular idea though to talk to your point or to speak to your point It will all all that work does pay off those like I said going back Stuff and then looking at your new stuff is night and day difference. It looks professionally done um With the cameras and the way that it's shot and the way that it's set up Um, I'm like watching your old videos because I found out about you around 2017. I think I One of your first videos that I saw was something about shadow of war I can't remember exactly what it was off the top of my head, but something around there and comparing it to now I mean it takes some serious introspective thinking to really See the flaws in your own work and then Make it better because there's so many people who just Arrogantly think that whatever they're doing is perfect and they don't need to change anything But to see you actually improve your content by light years Is insane You should be extremely proud of all the really hard work that you're clearly putting into your new content Because it's really great. I think I think what drives me is probably what drives every single youtuber You know, I think we like to create our videos and then watch them Is it just me or well? Does that if you work all this time on it and finally Days later you get to watch your creation. It's like, okay cool like this Sitting down to watch the videos like one of the reasons you do it well, I think that applies to the quote-unquote the right kind of youtuber who isn't doing it just for the money who Isn't doing it just because they feel like they're trapped in this job They don't want to do because I think a lot of people once they Make it to where it's viable on youtube. They think that that's the ultimate job to have There's nothing that's better than doing that and so the idea of Stepping back from that and doing something else doesn't even really occur to them as an option Yeah, I'll tell you what man life is YouTube is not the end of the world You know in my opinion the goal of life is to continually self-improve yourself Workouts you're healthy. You can live long enjoy the people around you Share good times with those you love Eat well, you know, don't don't don't grow old and die young and you know people it's a People lose you so there's life beyond youtube and for me, it's based around health and Sharing good times and stuff like that. So Try to reflect out in the videos I make As well as try to you know improve myself I recently did a video on well, it's a pending video on detroit become human. It's a retrospective game I replayed this year and um in 2017 to your point wolf, I probably would have barfed out a Why detroit become human is the worst game ever or why you should hate this game or whatever And I was barfed it out and put it on youtube and that would be the end of that I would have never thought about it again, but I've been working on this video for about 20 20 days off and on I rewrote the entire script, which is rare for me kind of to your point of trying to be the best you can be And it's at this point. It's 22 minutes long It's way longer than I wanted it to be but like I'm proud of it And I think that's really the goal That if you're a youtuber out there, you might not realize this at the time You know, you might be very financially driven all the viewership all the money Eventually that's going to end or it's going to plateau and what you're going to be left with is your own happiness So like now I'm trying to work towards Shit, man. Can I make this video? Like can I make this video worth my viewers time? Like that's the only question right now for me. You does this make me happy You couldn't be talking to like the most most suitable audience ever you just told us that you're redrafting Your video is getting longer that you care about how people are going to react to it We this is ecstasy to us It's not about it's not about me. It's it's Does my viewer who is going to sit down for 15 minutes take the time out of their day to watch my shit Is my shit worthy of it? Because if the answer is no I'm going back to the drawing board That's what I mean, man. Like you just put everything in really work at it And we're gonna watch like your videos though. Sorry to cut you off. I gotta watch your guys's videos because I gotta learn how to do a long form essay Maybe not 10 hours. Maybe yeah, I was gonna say you could probably start with someone else. I uh, I spent like Pushed up to 30 minutes. All right I think it's weird long video. It means you've got stuff to say and that's not a bad thing However, I am a very like I'm a man of very I don't talk a lot although I seem to be chatting in this particular podcast I don't know why but I'm usually a man of very few words and I'm actually quite the introvert Even though my schooling forced me into Being an extrovert and my current job Requires me to talk to a lot of people Who make a lot of money, but I'm naturally an introvert So like it's very difficult for me to open google drive It's probably different for you rags or moller where You've you've watched or played some piece of content and you see that blinking line Okay, this is where I start. It's very difficult for me to Think about adding more because I've always been a subtraction kind of guy Yes, that makes sense like I like conciseness I like things that come to a natural arc whether it's long or short Sometimes if it's shorter It's it's less bogged down. It's less clumsy But like learning to write longer Is probably a direction I'll start to go in especially with You know some of these upcoming games like like I haven't played the last was part two or cyberpunk 2077 um A simulation game like Detroit control where there is space for you to explore Your ideas because let's be honest. It's not really applicable for a lot of games Action games sure you can tell you can talk about a Call of Duty campaign for a good bit, but Can you talk about a racing game all that in depth not really? so it kind of depends on what games you gravitate towards and In this moment, I seem to be gravitating towards RPGs and adventure games so It might allow me to to expand my ideas beyond my comfort comfort comfort zone as I said before was Conciseness if that makes sense. Yeah, um, I think that Generally, we definitely err on the side of Say it if you we say it if you need to say it don't waste time But sometimes you just have a lot of things to say and sometimes that means Depending on what you're covering. Maybe there is a lot to say about something and Do the topics justice? I suppose if if you're if you're covering something that you think Is owed a lot of an explanation Better to say it all and have it be long instead of not giving people enough If it's too long people can always go back and finish it But if there's not enough then after you finish it, you know, what then it's over make a good point when you say Do the subject material justice, which I think is what clouded my Videos for a long time and it continues to cloud And and really fuck up a lot of people's content on youtube is we're not respecting What we're actually using You know, there's a lot of companies out there. Sure. There's companies out there that put shitty games out but If you're going to be covering a game That people have toiled over sleepless nights You know Yeah, that's a good way to look at it for long for years Like you owe that property the respect just like you owe it to your viewers To do it right whether it's long or short um It's just for me an expert process these days of trying to Figure out how long I want my videos how short I want them, you know It's kind of dependent on every game Well, some people sort of get into the I think they get into the cycle of well, I've just got to crap out this video for this one thing All this game came out. I just got to put out a video all this game came out I just got to put out a video it just needs to get done I got to make a video for it They feel like they do it as an obligation to a schedule Instead of really sitting down and taking the time and being like, okay. This is a game I need to sit down play it absorb it take notes and Because a lot of people like even if you're not a big youtuber and a thousand people watch your video It's like well, maybe you know 10 15 20 100 people out of that, you know, it's 60 dollars to them and that's a lot of money to people So you don't want to you don't want to steer to your people wrong Yeah There's a great divide between high quality content and crap on youtube. Oh, yes, sir It's just it's gotta be honest, man. I'm guilty as charged I put a lot of garbage out on youtube for for a good amount of time probably Probably an entire year Some of my content was garbage like I won't even go back and watch my videos. In fact, I've deleted so many of them but it's like I don't know what you guys are opinion on with coven is and and what what's I don't like it Well, I mean like the anti-coven I don't want to die either but in terms of like youtube it seems like there's This the viewership is being spread thin because a lot more people are coming on I mean, we have brie larson making videos steve curry um movie stars are creating youtube videos these days which Supplied the man can dictate that perhaps unless you have the community to back it up You're going to get a smaller slice of the pie, right which can back to your point push people to to really grasp onto this idea that this is an obligation Because my life depends on it I think which kind of circles back to the point of a lot of garbage on youtube And you have to sift through it if you if you really want to find the good stuff Yeah, sometimes I I definitely feel that way. I feel like to really find the good stuff. There's so much So much of it is just like middle of the road average passable Kind of you know five out of ten stuff It's to find a youtuber that has some real not just passion because there's a lot of passionate youtubers who just aren't good But to find a passionate youtuber who's really good and insightful about things It's not always, you know, it sometimes it feels like a diamond in the rough I know you want to encourage people to support those youtubers who do that. Um System unfortunately has something to say about that rags. Yeah The algorithm youtube and the crazy automatic robot Not to mention the rampant demonetization copyright strikes and just general Shatakiri of the notification system Dude the the bot that is some nut shit like I I hate the bot. I I was curious. Um, because Like someone was like, oh by the way tfa part three managed to get over a million I was like, oh, I actually wasn't expecting to because I feel like interest in that series might have Weined a bit but I was like, oh, that's cool. And I checked analytics I was like, what is going on then? Like is it still getting rotated? The interesting thing is that was in my top rotation like according to the bot second Was a video that was 20 minutes long that I made like three years ago Where I was responding to someone talking about horror games. I was like, why the fuck is What that's been popping up in my recommend. It's why what's going on? They watched that And loads of people have been watching it on my channel commenting and I'm like, I don't I kind of remember what I said in that video What's what's going on? Yeah, the shotgun thumbnail. Yeah. Yeah, and um, yeah, it's been popping up for me and it's nuts because The the youtube bot can literally create and destroy careers at a whim Absolutely, it's insane And imagine that sort of damocles floating above you when you're trying to make a career out of this shit It's like cool Watching a video and the f bomb must have been rolled. It was like a rainbow six siege Video highlight video not scripted Just gameplay audio, right? F bomb is thrown out at least 50 times in this video Monetized There's no rules on youtube Copyright strikes and demonetization seem to happen at random Videos are promoted for what reason? Who knows? I don't think they really have the system down youtube. Oh hell no any degree of predictability And I saw a meme video posted just a few days ago from a channel that only has like 2000 subs And it had a million views after a day and it's like It was a funny video But I don't know how the hell it got that many views In such a short amount of time from such a small youtuber YouTube's Fucking broken It is um, I remember I I did a response to angry joe once and I quoted him and his quote was part of the video title And the video got demonetized because of that quote But he was allowed to have that quote said over and over and over in his video And he was monetized There is no it's basically random when people ask me what's the bot like I it's it's indistinguishable from randomness Which is the problem, uh, you just never know you just never know what'll pass and what'll fail And that's and and that's demoralizing when you work really hard on something and then you put it into the system And it's like, uh, you don't get to make this Oh, thanks so much. I was going to say by the way we got um catastrophic and Sophistic autistic made these they they are you tone Wait, what in the uh, it's posted in the chat. You should be able to see them Oh, shit. That's you just made this. Oh, these these were sent to me ahead of time. Uh, because I think well everyone was sure you were coming on They all I think they all wanted it. So uh, they drew it, but I can guarantee you Especially after how this is gone that you're gonna be getting, uh, probably a bit of fan art made, uh I didn't know you could come here and do you but there's gonna be some like van go in my way The white Samoury has really, uh, taken over with a lot of the memes Hey bro, let's come and eventually bro white samurai Dude, we'll be watching you better believe I'm doing another one of those trailers Can I by the way the like our favorite quote from you is uh, when you're talking about god of war and You show the bit where uh Kratos is grabbing Poseidon and you describe it as Yeah, I guess clown boy. Where where did that come from dude? Like clown boy. That shit's hilarious That's just something I say like a little clown boy. It's it's like it's everywhere in our community Tongue so naturally Just if anyone says anything to you that you don't like clown That's just drop the clown it's over Can't come back from it It's um It's when you combine certain words and you just blown away by how effective it sounds like a little clown boy It's like oh my god That is wonderful. Wow It's done shut down the topic of asking questions like that. I always wanted to know what's the origin behind the name downward thrust So, yeah, that's a good question I actually explained it to me All right, I explained it to I hope you know Trying late at night one night I made a vlog long time ago Not many people saw but the name was Based off of the down thrust move of zelda 2 So in zelda 2 you had the up strike Ability and you had the down thrust Which you could get I think in one of the dungeons or I think you learn it from like a townsperson or whatever And like that was my favorite move ever because you could like kill enemies Like fucking just boom Little did I know at the time The the move name was down thrust So there I was Starting my youtube channel Figuring the name was downward thrust When it was down thrust So to this day I wish I would have looked it up Because that's not the name of the move I've Downward thrust sounds better And you can totally count for that. You can be like, yeah, I took it and I changed it a little bit Yeah, you can say you did that on purpose. You're fine well I honestly think that it would be just it's a funny little Bit of lore to say like yeah, it came from this. It was a mistake But I think downward thrust honestly sounds better as a name for a youtube channel. Oh, definitely It's probably better to Nintendo not coming after me for copyright or nothing I don't know if they can copyright down thrust, but you never know these days I will let freddo uh drew that one. Is this you in the pokemon universe What's my what okay ask that gentleman. What is my pokemon of choice? That's a question. Surely that would be for you to decide, right? I don't know. No, no, that's for the creator. All right, you hit him Please say arcanine By the way, if any of your If anyone in the chat has a question for me, if you feel feel free Throw them out. Yeah, we can we can do that if you want. Um, I don't know how much time do you have? Uh, I'm probably like half an hour. Let's do it. Let's let's do it. Do you want to? Some q&a keep it on. Do you want to pull questions out of chat yourself or do you want us to just try and find some? Are you good? All right chat. All right. Yeah, get your best questions and posts. We'll see what we can do. Yeah, don't fuck this up Favorite movies Oh, yeah My favorite movie of all time is uh, interstellar Followed pretty closely by inception Hey, I like inception. A lot of people are pretty delighted about interstellar Um, I don't know what you mean for various There's reasons but uh, I'm a space junkie Yeah Phenomenal, uh runners up Last samurai anything by van dam blood sport last samurai is great. Yeah Last samurai was the only movie to ever make me cry I was sitting in a movie theater by myself the only video I went to by myself You cried you're an interstellar No, man Dude the scene with he sees his kid growing up that didn't get you No, no All right. All right. Well, I could I mean maybe my girlfriend just broke up with me that day Which is why I was in the theater by myself Oh Which is a which is a I guess a question for you guys too anyone ever You know, we're talking about video game addiction earlier How many girlfriends have you guys lost to video games? Let's just be real Um none Yeah, honestly, uh If if I'm gonna commit with a girlfriend. I'm like she's getting she's getting a lot of time usually Yeah, but I don't see myself I'm not the girlfriend boyfriend type really It's just not sort of my deal the romantic relationship at least currently, you know people change over time but I never saw myself as that kind of person where my personality would mesh with that sort of relationship So I've kept things pretty simple and it always kept my Been upfront about that stuff Just tell us how you really feel mr. Tender But I could see how it could be You know Competing for attention if you do have a problem with you know video games are really any addiction Then I could see how that could be a huge deal to have to I mean It's a terrible sort of thing because like they're designed Day after day to be that to get more players to get more success because it's a Market to thrive and of course, I just it's like we try and separate into like ethical and non-ethical ways of making your game Satisfying to play and thus, you know when it gets a little bit more Deeper down it's like how addictive in the same way that gambling Oh, you guys remember that the uh CSGO gambling that whole thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah that thing that happened. That was a big thing when it came out Too ugly for dating. Sorry. Oh chat Oh, even hitler had his Eva cheer up man. Have some confidence Pluck your eyebrows Mary Matt Jarvis married like come on. Yeah Everyone's got something to offer. Yeah Oh, I I guess this is a few questions. I quick one. Um What games you've been playing recently? that you like So I just beat Detroit become human Uh for the second or third time Which I was talking about earlier in terms of the retrospective um I just beat uh splinter cell chaos theory again I missed out on the last of us part two Um, I really want to play that game in 60 frames per second And I know a remaster is coming for the ps5. So Decided to hold back on that. I missed ghost of sashima But currently I'm just playing like really old games Deus Ex mankind divided. I just finished I've been having a lot of real estate Oh, it's a good game But nothing like nothing new I got you. I'm the same way. A lot of the games I play are Not necessarily new just ones I happen to get into and mainstays. I could always go back to all reliables What do you guys been playing? Good question. Um, I I've been playing a killing floor two Uh full guys Guild wars and wanting to try all guys actually Dude, we should uh, we should do a gaming with that. All right. We should do it. Um, I'm down for a co-op sesh Defo, um, oh that would be fun. You said uh, you meant you meant you're interested in playing the last of us two at some point Where you haven't played yet Yeah, the last of us is actually my favorite game of all time and oh man Dude, well, okay. No spoilers anybody. I will love to know what your thoughts are on last of us two when you finish it and I mean I I go into media blackout mode when a game comes out that I'm going to be interested in I read nothing. I I watch no previews I truly believe The magic of a video game experience is you go in and know nothing about it and just be surprised I agree. God damn. Did I see some shit? I'm a lot of people are a lot of people feel a certain way. That's uh, oh my god Did I see some stuff? No nothing no spoilers, but good god the political socialism drama spewing forth from everyone like Count dooku is just I don't Tense man. Yeah It's like am I supposed to be worried at this point? We wouldn't want to say right well, we'll not we'll not say anything you just you want you go in there Dude, I would love if you streamed it by the way. I would watch the shit out of that That would be trance Warframe I feel like I'm a bad streamer I would love to see y'all I this isn't to say I'm not indicative of any direction here I would love to see reactions to certain portions of loss was to it would genuinely be a treasure I have to play it first Oh, maybe I don't know if you'd be willing to like record it offline as you play through it and then Supercalio or something I would watch the show or that just saying Oh, oh someone's asking uh, do you think uh, if last of us two or last of us is big with you Uh, do you think Joel's a beloved character? I would only be able to answer that in the context of the first game Go for yeah, that's all you need. That's that's all you need for uh, what I what I liked What I liked about The last of us was that it was fairly enigmatic in the sense that Joel started off as someone relatable albeit his circumstance Was unreachable at this point, you know zombie apocalypse or whatever daughter gets shot by the guard um But the transitionary arc of his character Was something I fell in love with because he started off fairly prickly towards ellie, right? Yeah, it was cliche in terms of uh, doesn't like her now likes her later, but um The ending of the last of us Was when I started to not like Joel Obviously there were some moments before in the hospital, you know With the decision, you know last of us is the linear game. So you have no choice, right? um Don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen hasn't played the game But um the choices he made and and how it was presented on the screen I think that's okay to spoil it for this crowd of ours were yeah, don't worry about that. Yeah Let me just say I like Joel, but then I didn't like Joel That's pretty much the best part really interesting. I mean The causation of What he does, you know his actions the consequence or I guess the better way to put it is The the underlying reasons for why he does what he does at the end of the last of us Is shocking But it's relatable But that doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean that that's the right thing ethically to do and I think gamers play games that They can connect to morally value wise ethics, right? What would what can I connect with in terms of a character? Does this make sense? Can I put myself in that in those shoes? and What what he did at the end of the game disconnected me from that because that's what I I would never have done Really I mean, yeah, it's a fair reaction I could understand it, but It's fucked up Play the second one then we can talk We'll go we can go in depth. We'll talk all about I'll just say that I'll just say no, I don't Like joe as much as I I did when the game started Still still what you consider your favorite game? Yeah, definitely. Um, I remember playing the last of us when I was um I think it was the first year of my grad program and My roommate had just gone out for the night and it was just me it was raining So like the mood was ripe For this kind of game and I put it on I beat the game pretty much in almost in one sitting and it's rare for me to divulge into that kind of behavior because Generally, like I'll pick up a game for an hour or so. I'll put it down kind of guy But for me to plow through that entire experience In that environment, there was just something that happened. I guess in that room late at night I connected to the story for whatever reason Doesn't really matter, but yeah, that's my favorite game for sure Yeah, I think it's a great choice. Uh another question came up. Um, do you have a favorite faction from 40k? Uh, no, I don't play too many warhammer games. Is that Oh, they said based on your icon. So I assumed My icon? Yeah, but they might have been mistaken. I guess or Yeah, what is the icon from the picture right now in my bubble That's a custom drawing that was made for my channel by some chicken kazakhstan actually I Hired some chick on up Upwork, I think it's up work gave her like a hundred dollars. I said I want A guy in a cloak thrusting down With a sword And this is what she drew me. So unfortunately, I don't have uh too much to share about the warhammer universe This is a custom drawing uh, let's see, uh Someone's asking favorite anime Not into man. I'm not into anime Good man. Um I wouldn't even know where to start For all in here seem to Do you have a favorite genre from music? Oh band? um, yeah I Generally listen to two types of music either like really dirty rap or um, what they call finger style guitar, which is the style of guitar I play And that kind of music doesn't have any vocals. So if you kind of want to look it up, you can search like Andy McKee To kind of see what i'm talking about it's basically like a one-man army style on the guitar where You're playing melodies and rhythms and you're slapping The guitar with your hand to create percussion As like an all-encompassing style of playing music and I find it very attractive to listen to So I think those are the two styles for me Pretty uh pretty different Yeah, um What is your workout routine? um, my workout routine is is New because co good and I had to cancel my gym membership Yeah, the cool thing about cove it actually is I started calisthenics, which completely changed my perception of working out Because when I first started working out when I was about 22 I got pretty jacked but I didn't get ripped. I got big and there's a big difference. Um It's funny because looking back I grew up a skinny a skinny kid But when I first started working out I was slamming the bench press, you know, and I was eating 5 000 calories a day and uh Boy, you do not want to know my diet by the way. It was disgusting filled with uh Protein shakes with raw eggs rocky baboa style spaghetti with meatball sandwiches every two hours it was pretty nasty so I got jacked But I wasn't healthy cove in you know years later Took away the gym forming and it pretty much almost kind of like Made me see the light in terms of like doing body weight over weights basically, um What and what do you mean body weight over? so Yeah, so like when you when you go through your life lifting weights you You don't actually train your body to be stronger or More flexible or more or more mobile. You're just increasing weight whether you're compensating during those movements your form sucks If you can get the bar basically your entire objective is to get the bar You know Above your head or whatever. You know, you're pushing the bar you're pulling the bar Cali it's not like lickable strength No, because calisthenics allows you to control weight versus just push weight and it develops like a more lean physique because you have less weight to push around but you're You have to control Not just your body weight, but your own flexibility And you have to be mobile enough To complete some of the moves like let's say a planche or a headstand or a handstand or Like a scap of the push-up for instance So like my routine these days to go back to your question Is is basically like a full-body calisthenics workout three days a week for about 30 minutes focusing on body weight strength flexibility and being mobile because you know gamers Don't exactly have the best hobby to promote good health with our bodies sitting down It's not very good for us. So I mean if I have any advice for like people who want to get into working out who are gamers It's you need you got to get flexible and mobile. So push-ups dips squats lunges L-sits hollow bodies Stuff that's actually going to make you fit and strong and flexible not just The ability to push weight around Way too long winded sorry about that. No, I know it's good advice to have Especially nowadays where a lot of people are inside doubly so But if let's say someone wants to put a set aside Just a little bit of time every day, you know 10 15 minutes or whatever to do a little do a little workout What would you would you say is the best idea for you know gamer? He just wants to put aside a little bit of time every day something that's useful I would say watch my most recent video called how to be a healthy gamer, which has a complete calisthenics Workout shameless plug That you can do I just did you um Do you uh, so you said you're not uh interested in like anime What about just tv shows in general a lot of people are asking if you heard of avatar the last day ben if you watched that No, um, I just got done watching space force, which I thought was fantastic. That's uh, Steve Carell, right? Yeah I haven't watched airbender. Maybe you guys can fill me in on on what it's about. Is it like hardcore anime or is it No, great entry level for like, uh Shows of I don't know. I don't know if it is anime or not. I don't I would say that it's anime. It's certainly it looks like it. It's got a lot of the the tropes of it in there That's the least in the way of it. Yeah Gatekeeping with like oh, it's not really anime because it's not made in japan even though it has everything in common with any other anime it's Pretty much anime. There's almost nothing distinguishable from it and Anything else that you find in typical anime from my experience Yeah, I would love to watch it. I just have such a backlog Stuff since I got netflix like I've been watching the last dance with michael jordan I play in a competitive basketball team. Well, I did before kovid, but like I like sports documentaries Um game of thrones was phenomenal until they fucked it up We never did get around to talk. Yeah, we gotta talk about this before I go That is the perfect summary. It was great until they fucked it up um, I'm not the best person to talk about it, but like game of thrones was phenomenal For seasons upon seasons like what they were able to do with the cinematography and the layering of the The network of the relationships between the characters and the surprise moments the sheer cinematography The acting the music The overarching meta narrative just splicing through all those personal stories I could not pull myself away Like dude, it was that easily to be the greatest tv show of all time If they had just managed to fucking keep it going like the quality they'd set If they had just replaced the writers At what point did it? Turmoil down into a raging fire Uh, you could pick a few points in the final season But um, I really thought when Daenerys Flew over king's landing and killed everybody Completely ruined everything about her character. She's always been established to kill innocent women and children. That's the thing Yeah, that's the origins of her character. She was leading up to the moment where she murdered everyone in the show obviously But like that moment Ruined the greatest show on tv I think my personal moment when I was like, all right I you killed it for me Was uh, when aria killed the night king Well, that'll happen in general, but I mean I was like waiting for john snow to have an actual Fight with the night king and then aria just like boops into existence out of nowhere it stabs him And that's it. Was it just was it just because they wanted that surprise factor? Yeah, they said that they said that nobody was thinking it was going to be aria They said a lot of weird shit as to like justify it and they were and then eventually they started saying like it always made sense Aya was always going to be the one and they show that clip where melisandre says you'll close eyes of all colors like Greed eyes blue eyes. It's like the night king has blue eyes. I get oh my god, it's so thoroughly foreshadowed What the Oh, it was that conversation by the time that happened Oh It was it was worse than the ending of dexter. It was worse than anything I had experienced ever And my girlfriend and I were sitting on the couch staring aghast I think I had to do cpr honor at some point Did you Well, did you have any comment on their um the formation the fortifications with their armies and uh the castle any any thoughts there? I mean I'm not too terribly Inquisitive when it comes to Did you think it was amazing that they ran the cavalry first into a crowd of zombies? Okay, that's the first super thing about that scene Then they're catapults A third of our army Into the darkness where there are murderers waiting charge It's it's actually baffling because the the way you use cavalry That's like the opposite of how you use cavalry like there's no and they have all like the greatest minds in westeros working together To create like the best plan and then you see that their frontline is trebuchets. Um Not the greatest idea The trebuchets stopped firing After the first volley, I think Which is cool That's exactly what you want to do is have all your archers and trebuchet Stop firing when the enemies are in range Make sense Too late for those trebuchets soon Put one on the front. Yeah, well, so yeah once once uh she stabbed The night king Because I was in a cold wolf washing it and it was like a oh, yeah, we did it. We beat the bad guys and it was like Wait a minute Yeah, when I think about the the the fight between the mountain and the hound Funny Tower that was Melting around them. I feel like I was my investment was thoroughly destroyed at that point anyway So just watching it all happen. It just felt weird like this and funny like takes Kyburn and like breaks his head and throws him on a rock and that's just the end of that whole character. That was so funny like it's It tugs that You know underlying thematic You know the fire scene from the first time we see The hound or whatever, but like good god A little bit over the top Well, I'm glad you liked it Yeah Did you like all the walking in the last episode? Did you like how john snows entire character arc resulted in But I don't want it She's my queen Dude, what do you mean? That was perfect. That was john snow. I've always known He's a dog He's not a leader. He doesn't have his own mind. Wow. Come on All he wants is that uh You know his his aunt Oh, we've got we got a request actually and that's a pretty fair one. Do you guys remember The meme the little potato made In king's landing. Do you remember that shit? I believe I do. Um, it's okay. Wait, hang on carry on a sec. I'll set it up All right, um Yeah, I know when the though I never got into game of thrones until moller dragged me in I think I was his I was his emotional support animal. Yes. Uh, he was very very distraught over what happened And I could certainly see why um I have legitimate sympathy for people who were super invested into that show and then watch that happen that must have been Really rough this with how long it took to get there especially So much investment built up over so long and I think the fact that basically nobody talks about that show anymore Sure is interesting, you know Sure is interesting. Is everyone in I think we're copyright free on this video. I'll do it. Let me I'm ready This is um, I'm popping in now. All right. Here we go. Um before I let it play fully You don't have to understand it it's uh Some of the memes we see from our community. We don't even quite understand them, but holy shit. You'll probably find this amusing I'm not sure that that's inherently that much of a bad thing carol's flat. I mean as a character Is that like a personal attack or something? Again, don't worry. You want to understand a little bit You also have to tell me what these food references with the mcchurros. Is this supposed to be playing the ad? The ad no no no, uh, hang on Yeah, it's it's playing that it's playing the ad for me. Is it up now for you? It's not playing the meme No, let me reload It's supposed to be very it's supposed to be very very confused here Here we go. There it is. Yes, sweet. Okay. I'll just skip you haven't missed anything ever At this point, there's literally no escape That's just pathetic to me. You two are pathetic. You're subhuman Oh good lord, what's this? What the fuck? Oh By the way, can I just say one thing? Yeah Whoever made that 18 minute video Oh, you've seen that about the I watched that and I have to say That was fantastic and you would have made that it was very talented and creative Dude, it's it's what we we could only do as a hollywood level meme video. It's insane. I had no idea Who those people were what was going on? What the heck the mcchicken nuggets were for? I don't know what the food references are but damn that was some high quality shit Um Did you like clown boys who punched petty wise in the face? It's fucking classic dude Really encapsulating the most important things about me. You'll have you have no idea how happy you've just made several of the people Who made that video by the way. I had no idea you'd see that Can I ask why I'm why I'm at me though? Some decision that was reached or The problem is we have so many characters in the efab community to spread across I don't know what the decision-making process was, but Um, you know, do you do you like out man? Do you not or? I'm I like it. I'm just wondering why oh, I don't know I will accept it You like you like some I like Has nobody sent this they wanted me to show this to you they made us about our conversation today Oh, great. It's been five years I I need I need to put this on my thumbnail I think Yeah, I think you had a lot of people, uh, enraptured. Yeah, that's pretty fair to say Um, it's good to talk about this stuff I hope I wasn't too preachy or No This has been in terms of some of the subjects we brought up in terms of efab highlights. This is uh, this is up there, man We've had a hundred episodes and this is up there So shit, maybe that's uh my call to Did you guys a dew? I've got to make some dinner, but uh, it was an absolute What do you happen to come in and meet y'all? We're gonna have, um, vegan burgers And the kale salad. Um, sorry I asked Hey, man, he's cooking it so Anyway, uh, yeah, it was an absolute honor to to meet you chaps and uh Thanks again for having me the the support for you guys community is awesome. Um I hope we can maybe uh Play a little fall guys at some point. I'll do it. Definitely. I gotta buy the game now just to be in on this Everyone's talking about it. So I guess we'll have to see what's up All right Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for coming on dude. Seriously Yes, thank you so much Made a lot of people days And I won't honestly can I can I suggest sauron can be one of the people you cook for? Yeah, we Fuck damn. I never considered movies. I won't need to get creative. What would you cook for sauron? On the spot right now No, I don't want any spoilers make that video dude. I'll watch the show every time The possibilities of movies Is yeah, I'll just you should do like um a polling system Just see what see what people really want to see who they want to see guest on your show to get uh cooked for Uh, it's a good idea Yeah, man, um, of course take care. Thank you so much for coming on It's been a pleasure and uh, we'll we'll see you again soon. Absolutely. Thanks so much Take care guys. Bye. You too. See you around I feel like I've met jesus So that went well, uh, yeah, that was like The fact that he he when you Were bringing up that little potato video. I was like, oh god, please don't hate us. Please don't hate us Please don't hate us fact that he loves it That makes me so happy Yeah, like I that is that's great. That was the best possible outcome we could have ever had I don't yeah, I kind of is how the fuck we are going to top e-fap 100 like what? You know, we asked ourselves that on e-fap 50 And I think we're going to be okay Oh, no, it wasn't on e-fap 50 though Huh tonal wasn't on e-fap 50 though. You see now we're dealing the stakes have been raised Well, if there's anyone who can raise stakes, it's tonal. Absolutely Um Probably cook steaks too. That's yeah, that is that is the reference that I was making. Yeah Yeah, but you said raise Yeah, raise the stakes. Yeah, you can you could raise them in a cooking thing where the heat is at the top and thus cooks the more Right rags. That's what you're gunning for right Anyways, this the stakes are raised. He's raising the steak Like instead of s t a k e s. Are they racist steaks? Hmm You know, it's weird it's like now what you know Um, well, I'm gonna pee so there you go I'm gonna go and Like that could that could have gone a billion ways and it it was like perfect I was afraid it would not go well just because I was like, oh man, how much does he know? What's he taking from what he does know? But man, that was like possibly the best conversation. I think we've ever had on the e-fap Also, at least from what I've experienced obviously I've only been on like half the episodes if that and yet look We're just actors. We don't write e-fap, but holy shit this season Like they've really pulled themselves together the e-fap writers like I have to go and uh, you know raise their pay like amazing That arc one of the greatest arcs. I think I've ever seen in media Oh, yeah um so Do you want to just Ask me the question you're asking me in dms now Oh, well, so either there's two different directions. We can go here, but it really depends on on on how long we got you for I feel weird talking to you and messaging you Anything you could say to wolf you could say in front of me. Oh, no, it's wool. It's I'm so how long we got you for Uh, I mean like I said, I'm not doing anything tomorrow. So Okay, um in that case. Well, so how far in the stream are we one of my one of our Like three and a half hours in Yeah, so that means we still got a while before we hit the the cap, which means I might just bring some people in Um, if it's not good. Yeah, I could come in or whatever you want to do. What? No, no, I don't want you to stay Um, assuming you can stay for the length of this stream To what about when there's two hours left? Uh, we'll do a we'll do just uh, you you you rags and I I think for a little bit, but until then We'll have we'll have some peeps on I assume All right Well, I ordered food and we will see when it gets here. Oh, man. I'm doing that right now I'm gonna I'm getting to the point where I need some munchies. I've been snacking on Nuts and lauribars. So yeah, so if I mute myself and then gone for like 10 to 15 minutes, that's that's why All right rags. You gotta entertain the audience while I saw our invites. It's just you know Alrighty, well, I hope chat really enjoyed ponald's appearance. I think that went Shockingly well almost suspiciously well That was fantastic. I'm so glad to have had him on. He seems like a really cool dude I gotta be honest. I was like Really scared that it was gonna go bad because When it was me and him and fringy Or no moller was there too One of the first things I said is like man, we've been trying to get you or hoping you'd be on for like the past two years and He kind of said something like oh, I didn't get a message and I was like, oh man. I hope this isn't gonna turn out badly He's super chill very approach. He's just like he's in his video super approachable Seems like a really nice guy Oh, yeah Way better way more approachable and way more down with the you know The meme humor that we have here than I ever would have expected from really any guest not just him in general Yeah, he's very just kind of normalish, but in a good way, you know Um, it seems like a cool dude just like he is in his videos And that's not something that you get a lot of the time sometimes people are basically different in their videos and For better or worse. Oh, yeah, I like the good honest, uh You know I love the fact that he could actually like look at himself and look at his past work say yeah This is not that good and was us just honest about the quality of it and what he wants to do Like compared to like literally anyone else we've ever covered Well, yeah, how often is it that we even people we haven't covered but How often do we see people who just make the same shit for years and they never get better? They never improve they never try to learn new things often refuse to Yeah to our faces refuse to and then he's here like just Trying to make the best of it do better himself. That's amazing Hello, it's good that he knows, you know, it's good to know that our audience is Good to him and that he really appreciates it. That feels great. It's like we've kind of channeled our You know the attention towards him in a really awesome way and that feels great to hear I love that he's like single-handedly like disproved every argument about our audience being Like harassers and bad people by saying just by just coming out and saying like how nice the audience is Which by the way audience, thank you for being so nice to him Yes, thank you. Thank you for not being mean and just just being nice to tonal I wasn't at all surprised. They they are a wholesome bunch, honestly and Do anybody who comes on and says anything even remotely critical about their own work that's been covered by eFab You'll instantly get the love of the audience. It won't even be a question Also, hi am how you doing? I think I came in at a perfect moment, but I don't know that I'm uh, I'm capable of coming on immediately after Tonal yeah We're gearing up. We're rolling them wheels back along that was that was something, you know that That is a section of eFab, but I think the fans will will find to be something of a an amazing moment That's what else to say like the That was something he I don't know that you could have gotten more preferable reaction And and chats about anything. I don't even know. Oh, that was surreal We got we like a dream. Yeah We I'm guessing you were listening in on that then mr. M I I mean, I saw sardar part of it. I didn't you know, um, I didn't get a chance to sit in the whole time But it was really good to I heard him say that he saw the eFab 100 mean Yes That one I'm not expecting at all. No first of all, I've seen that too. It was fantastic Absolutely fantastic. All of the stuff around eFab 100 has been fantastic. Somebody did, uh Some art that I saw on twitter and it was just incredible We're actually yeah, it's it's about time. I we should we check out some art actually Pm using was from some art although. I had to clip it out because it made my Profile look like I was staring at rags ass I think that the art you're using is the one I'm talking about it was just oh we're getting there Fantastic. Oh, uh, that'll be next for us. We're actually Expecting potentially one two more people. Oh whenever they made a meme um Also, hello logic. How you doing you there? I'm wow. Hi logic. It's been so long. My good man. How are you? I know I miss you guys You've been it's been so busy, you know talking about things that suck Oh, I know. Yeah, me too. You tired Oh, that's a good question. You think but not yet. How long have we been doing this? I'm okay I'm doing better than I thought I'd be after we're two just about at the halfway point You're keeping your energy up eating lots of nuts and uh energy drinks. Yes. I am eating lots of nuts I gotta eat nuts love nuts. Yeah gotta gotta get lots and lots of nuts in your mouth Yeah, I've got lots of nuts in my system. Um We got we're at 15 hours rag is I believe so yeah, not too bad We still got another feeling good. We got nine before we beat. No, wait, sorry 14 before we beat e-fat 50 So not quite the go in there for a thing Yeah, I was gonna say I was like, wait a minute Um, yeah, just just What what are you saying? I wish you guys I wish you guys luck. Anyway, I I won't be on here for too long But yeah, I'll stick around for Little bit here, but I wish you guys luck for your actually managing to not fall asleep Oh, I don't think I could be around here for too long. Did you think we were going to allow you to leave? Yeah, what the fuck? You can't Yeah, we've not tonaled leave because he's god, but you're not Also, but you are not you're you're the opposite of god. I mean true John, how you doing buddy? Welcome back Thank you very much. Good to be here It's the for anybody in chat who well, it seems like a lot of people saying they know they remember you so hey, there you go I was gonna say 22 It's like I'll be the chief guy, but no people's people are the man who needs no introduction. I'm just kidding. That's right The um, a lot of people were really happy with the uh, the cameo. Thank you for uh, setting that up for us. It was really cool Uh, hey, no problem. You guys did great. That was fucking hilarious. I was laughing my ass off cutting that voice So thank you very much for that But uh, you know, it's you know, it's just you're part of the business, you know Didn't even ask him for anything. I just uh, just went ahead and did it for the love of the craft. That's me Yeah, Fringy Would will I think I don't know how long Fringy will be but uh, he'll probably jump in as well and the the other person It's like I just making up australia's story a vision to wanting to spoil But someone else is on the way and I'm sure you'll be happy with such a weird These ones like the 50s and 100s or whatever Such a you'll never know what kind of guests you'll end up with such a jumble Like we got it's all over the place in a good way, of course. Um Of course So I'm gonna I'm gonna throw us we got a couple memes and some artwork, right? So you may not get it, but don't worry. We'll we'll we'll happily explain them. So you got Rags that woman is killing again So rags has to Ha ha ha That woman is killing again flip the rags I just like the idea that she regularly kills and you have to stop You have to stop that woman. She's killing every non lesbian in gotham um EFAP EFAP games the mocking j pot part one of is that 1.2 People are asking me to get toad to say 1.2 billion. I was like, why would we know he's not friggie We don't make him say embarrassing things But uh, oh, yeah, it was kind of crazy I didn't think that we'd get him to that that meme where he was the dragon I couldn't remember how that meme went and I just loved that he was fucking loving it. That was great some The amount of memes at the beginning that would have just been imagine reading rhino milk and objectivity the long bad war He's like, what the fuck is happening anyway? Oh, yes, of course. I know exactly what this translation means Um Wait, I shall return Yes I feel like rags and I the only ones that'll definitely get the memes, but I hope other people do Told you I don't think I'll get any of this sam to die. She do Oh, that's great. Welcome on that video that'll never get old j long bone. How you doing? Oh, hi jay. Great We got what a cast we got today and chatting and trying to stay up Also, yeah, you and wolf are gonna have halfy faces, but uh, everyone can see it's okay It's just how it worked out. I'm afraid but um Again, what do we mean about the whole we're trying to get people in people rotated gotta get all these these guests in You guys ever wanted to watch dr. Nor I can just drop out if you want I have no idea about the memes. Oh dude, don't worry I got no commentary here. Just just just laugh. I feel like I feel like I should be offering something Oh, you won't be able to hugely because the there's not a huge amount and I mean, look at this. What do you what do you think this is rags? You'll be able to explain it Let's see It looks like someone's preparing for a post-birth abortion. I have no idea what that is I know I know this would be rags. Do you remember what this is? um Are you an angel? Is this the oh, I do fuck off. I do. Yes. I do know what this is. Oh my goodness gracious Yeah, oh man You know, I understand the context so that's enough. Yeah, well I'm gonna increase the size of peepo for that one And uh, yeah, that's at least a five That's a that's a seven on the peepo meter. Oh, yes Um, we got a e-fab every report episode 100 Dragonball z set up there you go And holy shit, we had tonal wolf and pikeman This that's some pikeman told me you couldn't make it by the way. That was wonderful. Uh guest appearance. I'm very happy It's just it's just it's just so wonderful. Everyone came together. It's just It's a beautiful experience. Okay, and I don't like I said we peaked, you know, that's that's that's what it is Hopefully hopefully there's more peaks to come Such as this Do you want to feel the snore man? It's just endless snore memes Um, so this is the collection of lesa e-fap memes meeting together. He got The wall street clown the noid my friend alan hot dogla jay's gonna be very upset that hot dog Joe in honey straw man Lesbonius and jay himla. I would say lesbonius and joey and honey are the two that could escape this This meme hell, but uh, yeah, the rest do seem to just float around there, you know meme purgatory Yeah, the lesa e-fap. It's like they're known enough, but not not enough to be really cool But not enough to fade away. So they're just in this room There's poor memes. No one honey was a good joey and honey is a really good one Long man the art ruiner That's us it's going around to ruin an art. Oh look mel's with me. He's a little sidekick What is he he's got like a doll? You know some of these Wakanda forever. Okay. Oh, yeah black panther jay jogger abrams There's a lot of detail if you get in there. Yeah Like the island man's represent gj. Yeah, okay. I get it I get it No, you can't enjoy a wholesome holiday with your family christmas go peace on earth good will to man Shit who is who who here has not answered that question is everyone else. Oh logic wouldn't have Hey logic. What's better halloween or christmas? halloween Yes, wow, what did you expect me to say? Thank fuck. Look at me, man I don't believe it Uh Am of you answer this, I don't think so. I have a multiple times. I spend a lot of time in the real world that I just Firmly in the army of christmas. Damn it. Some of us have lives. Wow the halloween is you mean? Yeah Look at those And you see you have on one side you have the halloweenies on the other side you have the christmas chads of the Of sect haven't the fucking christmas christmas The chris sims christ sim oh Well, yeah, we sent her when we can Give to our friends and our families there and there's the holiday cheer There's a spirit of christmas and the peace on earth and the good will towards men Yeah, what he said Oh, this is uh, so this is a thumbnail for um a video We're gonna watch right after we're done with the the mumarumis an animated meme apparently from my last of us two playthrough Um by sceniant I think plague creations worked on it too. So that'll be fun. Oh, wow. That's a bait right now. That's awesome We yeah to be seen This is um This is a wonderful piece of artwork just describing the the story of backy and the dawn See like he saw fell in love they're biking together Bike is against child abuse They seem to go to the orphanage and look at that they look after a zebra Do you know of any other way to determine someone is of good heart than looking after a zebra? Kind of awkward because I was just earlier talking about the um the zebra with its stomach falling out We don't need to get back into that. Yeah, please don't Yes, uh The dawn, you know All about them orphans taking care of them Riding that bike the fucking captain maul ruined it This is uh some some some uh Icon for rags potentially some rags. Oh, that's pretty good. I like that. That's a good one. I like the ears That's a great fan art. What the ears are great You hating on the ears of any racist That's what I thought Oh, we got shit if only metal were here right now Silence chat. I do not wish to be sad anymore. I wish to be happy. He's no longer crying This is going to be metal's major arc, by the way when he stops crying One of these days, I mean maybe Maybe years from now, whatever someone knew in a call who's not met before like needs to identify. We like the crying pepe This is what he's crying pepe Gonna son you fap 100 aren't we? Wonderful Looking quite spiffy. I may say Are you um, are you like an award? I think so. It's like a trophy. I would be bronzed You can hit people with me. I just realized you have a keyhole on your nose. I do it unlocks the secrets This is me preparing to kill some uh video essays, I suppose Well, maybe helping helping rags protect people from batwoman I can't remember kylo's people What were they called the knights of first order the knights of ren right? Are those the guys with the red armor? Or um, you know what they might as well be there's no way i'm hooking up with the knights of ren That's uh, uh lessia blackbird who makes awesome artwork. Oh wow that is really good Super neat. That looks great. I like that. You get some of the coolest shit, man We've we've mentioned that they haven't seen it yet. It'll be in the recording We don't know what to say to a lot of the artwork. We're just blown away. We're just like this is incredibly amazing So thank you so much like the best it's the best we got. I'm so sorry Yeah, I I really like that. I think that's the run of the one of the really good ones I feel like this one's closer to being a skull with a mask shock See without the flash the suit doesn't fit as well, but you know ultimately flash is overrated. That's what I think Slashes for chris halloween would say chris moids like they're flash. I don't need it Nice lighting on that one. Yeah, it's awesome Um, this is one of our efap promotional 100 images one of the posters you would have seen in your in your cinema sort of thing I I think the real enemy decided here right sorry The enemy is clearly decided for efap 100, right? Oh bob is He's been looming over efap since the beginning. He's just excellent He's you know, and it just it knows so naturally fit You need to see the uh the episode where we read out his quotes versus quotes from nazis. It's really hard to tell the difference I believe that I've heard some Oh, this one has wilford in it Yeah, wilford is the Thanos of our of our story. Mm-hmm we got uh There's a lot of things happening here. We got wet-ass p word. Is that ben Shapiro? Yeah, it is What am I holding up? Is that cookies? I don't know I don't think what is that? Yeah, this is the best holiday is that diabeto in the top right because he's thick. I'm assuming. I don't know And I think yeah, they've even involved people he has been with us for a lot of the streaming fans. Good good boy. Yeah Uh, oh and we looked at the rags and mula one, but they made a wolf one too That's some plushies. Oh, yay. Oh, these are amazing. These are great. Oh my god Election is complete That's really cool. That's really cute. Awesome. And there's the keyhole. Yep You can you can unlock the secrets with your plushy version too What should I find then that has a much darker connotation to it I hope it opens up the face hugger just launches from outside Wow, that's cool too. Oh, this one's great. Yeah, man. I got some rocking tits I got like steam coming out of my eyes Everyone's looking so cool. Christmas came early a bad business deal Yeah, someone crossed e-fap apparently Except for it's like skews you ER smiler, nerd, rotic drinker. It's keel deer. There's metal The pipe man pizza man robot head Drone list Jeremy and we can these are great. This is awesome This is fantastic. And it's kind of cool. Like the characters the people come on e-fap so individual, you know, like This there's nobody gets confused for other people or like if it ever it happens, it's just like Extremely rare. So I mean it's like so many so many crazy characters so many zany characters could easily be a tv show And uh in a similar vein. I love this one too Oh, wow I saw this one on twitter. They're really nice. Yeah No, if this isn't wholesome, I don't know what it is That's everybody. Yeah, this is a pretty full roster. We got Yeah, like a Sargon an armored skeptic are there and they've only been on once You got both the dudes with red and blue eyes next to each other He got your your eyes right too Yeah, I can never remember. Which way did I go? I don't know I'm gonna assume that's wrong I look through the damn things and I still don't know well, I mean What can you just check the avatar? Isle of man shirt You represent in the Isle of Man, it's the important thing Even for tears there little blue iron man. It's like he's trying to get kicked. Hmm This was uh The poster for the for the meme. I believe Omega Ridley made this Some really good photoshopped Look at the barb, dude Wow The chin actually fits with him We get a there's a bunch of these with this one is Tonal does the samurai, I think I think CJ is slowly realizing it's like, oh my god, that's moviball Yes, the moviball in particular. It's really good on this Yeah, it looks glorious. Um, and yeah, so for those curious this meme we we have reacted to it and it shall be Released after the reupload of this very stream. So people listening to this on the reupload It'll be the day after listening to this. Look at that future proofing Um, oh, yeah, and so then there's this one which I mean Fuck in hell Yeah, this is oh, wow, I haven't seen it. It's incredible absolutely The rhinos glorious angel wings words escape me you have to zoom and just look around it's like whoa I can't tell if the riot is the one that destroyed that star destroyer or if he's just barking at it Her face and her arms and the bats everywhere Chad's face is so funny. Yeah, it's awesome We got spirit wolf air and oh yay. That's great. I love that. Fringy's writing the nor rhino Don He's got the big old wings. This is so good Oh my god, this is so good. This is the one I was saying absolutely incredible meme You see if this was that that scene from tross, this might have actually redeemed Yeah, we fixed it the file name on this one is just tilt the ship There was what's the name of the guy who who sent this one Yeah, oh, it was um the person who made it doesn't do social media. It was um, okay I got the boyfriend who sent it Um, because sometimes I like to put artist's names before the ones that I say just to make sure but I'll just tilt the ship Um Pippo is so rude in the corner there Hold covering his eyes. We're putting dot p and g at the end of this one. You bet you're I love the Goliath is probably biting that star destroyer down that is awesome Oh, I didn't even think of him doing that. He was so big. I mistook him for like a cloud or a force of nature I thought I thought that he was like barking out a laser that blew up the star destroyer Metal may be crying, but he's crying for victory So, yeah that uh, what what can you say, you know just incredible shit guys, uh, thank you so much This is why This is why all the people of pave hate us. We just stole all the good artists on youtube Captured them and not allowed to leave This is all well and good, but where's the rule 34 on you guys? There is rule 34 of me and rags that predates e-fap unfortunately Time this love All right, so uh, yeah the the the video I was mentioning I've been told it's copyright free so he should be all right Is everybody? Oh, well, I'll just uh repost this a sec. Everyone jump into the watch together So Um, oh just a second. Um, apparently, uh, we're here. You know, um, go ahead. Go ahead This will I doubt contain last was two spoilers though if you are 100 percent uh against that possibility then um Turn away. I suppose but it's it's uh, it's like a minute meme video. So you should be right Is everybody ready to go actually I'll just pull it up and see if Can you see this? Yeah, it's working. Yeah All righty. Okay. Yeah, so I haven't actually seen this yet as well I love that dominoes converted my 20 ounce of pop into a two liter of pop Yay Just like they converted my marinara pasta into a Alfredo pasta truly dominoes from where from dominoes. Yeah any good No, it's not what I wanted so it's already not Oh, no Single thing in my order correct This dream brought to you by dominoes I mean of all things to be sponsored by not bad Right Otherwise All right, here we go. So it's by by cine. Uh, this is a meme. Yes Where's abby? I'm fucking dead anyway. Why would I tell you anything? Because I can make it quick. Yeah, that's kind of the deal. It's up to you I am not afraid of using Oh, can we go back? I was laughing. I was going to say this is going to take repeat viewings. This is pretty shit I didn't expect for you to pop out of the corner Just all nonchalant. Yep. Yep, that's right It's so much worse. Yeah, that's kind of the deal. It's up to you I got a molotov. I am not afraid of using How many people are dead because of him? Yeah, how many did people kill you? Last chance I'm not giving up my friend. All right Molotov time Okay, wait Ellie now you got Oscar again. You hit it once now you gotta be like this is a real move enemy Yeah That is insane what incredible talent there. Yeah the animation is very impressive. Yeah Very impressive like how on board I am with the killing until I'm like, wait a minute Not yet not yet Coloring book there That needs to be a whole series is Mahler playing the grim reaper He picks up one of the dead. He's just like he's critiquing people on how to kill him Yes, you got uh, that's from sinny's last of his two parody alien moll interrogate Nora. Um Play creations and manga writer manga writer. Uh I believe had a hand in it. I'm not entirely sure what what happened with who but that was fucking great Thank you so much for making that that was awesome The amount of time that must have had to go into just animating the finger movements Yeah, I kind of I'm gonna play it again because that's just funny. But also, uh, sinny's got a coloring book if you guys want to check it out. Um I have All kinds of monster girl coloring books. So just saying there's gonna be something in there for everybody. Just saying Um, yeah, I'm just gonna just gonna roll it back because I find it amusing. Okay Why would I tell you anything? Because I can make it quick Yeah, that's kind of the deal I got a molotov How many people are dead because of him? Yeah, how many dead people could you last chance? I'm not giving up my friend. All right Molotov time Okay, wait, Ellie now you got to ask her again. You hit her once not gonna be like I love that you tell her I love that you say Ellie you're gonna kill her after she's already I'm excellent. I'm very good. I'm dying Excellent, okay Fucking this community, man Nothing but good shit. Thank you very much. It's so good Everything you guys get is so good crazy That is We hold a patent on all good things. Yes, no one else has allowed good things um So We did Ben Shapiro Um, so that's off the table I'm trying to figure out with our current roster like what what's the best thing to do It's very difficult to figure out. Yeah Could be could be what is does star wars work for this selection? Seem it's kind of like it's like 50 50 here, isn't it? Hmm Something Do you all like have you all seen lord of the rings? Yes, I've never heard of it. Yeah. Yeah, I watched all of them not too long ago. Yeah Oh, Jay Longburn, what Lord of the Rings go? Uh Oh no I love vagues vagues Remembrance of it when it first came out and that's it Back when they came out in theaters, I wasn't really I wasn't too into them for some reason But uh recently my friend was just like dude, you got to watch like the Not just the theatrical but the extended ones that they're so fucking good And then I did and by the time the first one was finished I was like put on the next one even though it was like one in the morning I was just I was hooked at that point. I had to finish them all. They really are very good very good movies. Yeah Um, there were dragons and the and a man with a pointy hat on a dragon Yeah, how about Six reasons Lord of the Rings is racist from cracked Oh I mean, I'm sure I consider myself an expert in racism. There you go Excellent. Well, we've already got our smear. Let's go Jesus Christ. Oh my god. Okay Is anyone anyone know anything about cracked? I feel I feel out of the loop on this one. They're like a It's what it used to be a magazine and then they turned themselves into a website Then they got involved with that facebook money And they started moving everything over to facebook and now I don't think they exist anymore I actually used to read cracked so Yeah, I like cracked too Yeah All right. Did you say crack? I like cracked cracked cracked was a mad rip off. It sucks Oh, and uh, Sydney one. Yeah, it was that's true. That animation took uh, two weeks I just refused to read it on principle That animation give me I need my alphard in Newman fix So That animation took uh, two weeks to make with plague, uh, coloring the frames and no sleep. I almost died It's like, well, I'm not gonna say it was worth you almost dying, but holy shit. Was it awesome Super good. Super super good. Love it. Yes All right, here goes I think I've seen this video before too So sorry Oh, yeah, I have I remember these two retards Is there like a triangle of predator dots on my forehead or what's you look like you want to talk about lord of the rings What about me right now sitting here doing work tells you that I want to talk about the guy with the channel He made that video about um, how cancel culture isn't real What what is the argument for that? Oh god Because celebrities aren't fully canceled What means but cancel culture isn't real But like he fails to realize that cancel culture is a culture in which people think it's It's necessary to cancel people over bullshit. It's a culture It's not about how it's carried out. He's a fucking also the idea that like, hey, they're not dying In a gutter without any possible words. Like yeah, I mean, okay I guess they didn't get that result and with the bat was like, oh, he's not dead Yeah, I made this I made this comparison like people think rape culture is a thing in America at least and I was like, okay, so If all women in the world aren't raped, that means we're not in the rape culture, right? Is that Yeah, we're gonna get logic Which I don't think they would want to use they'd be like, uh, no, no, no, no, no It's a different one different rules You're wearing a shirt you were going with shirts pretty sure he doesn't I can at least according to all the fan art. I'm familiar with even just how these movies are all about religion Yes, I do know the token c.s. Lewis were devout christians who put Is it token? He is very familiar with the source material I see First off, it's Tolkien second. They were catholic third It Yeah, but it's that you know, there's a just enough of a distinction that catholics feel the need to make that distinction um I'm not going to disagree with you. I'm just saying and three Lord of the Rings does have christian Or Yeah, that christian influence, but it is not based off of christianity or at least it's not about christianity unlike narnia Which is a literal allegory for it Who's that slam? Is he Jesus? Oh, which biblical figure is mr. Thumbness? I don't fucking care. Uh the the great three-headed hydra. Is that yeah? That's the bible, right? Well, they they have to go into uh, they have to hide in a Closet was they have no wardrobe. Oh, if it's a wardrobe, it doesn't joke doesn't damn it Excellent It's veiled christian themes in all of their works speaking of I would love to get back to that thing work What work? You're sitting over there drawing penises on hot dogs. I Didn't think you could see that. Wow, that's so funny That's hilarious. Oh, so drawing penises on hot dogs. That seems You know, I'm trying to picture like you get in hot dog pictures from like google and just drawing What are you doing? He's ever gonna see weird Just rehashing I'm talking about how lord of the rings deliberately and willfully takes a big old hobbit poop on every major religion except christianity Oh, you know hobbit poop is so stinking. It does not even true. But okay, I guess I have to See what they say. That's a weird one. All right That'd be shocked how you'd find hinduism buddhism I don't even know how you'd fit islam in there unless you're going to say oh black people are muslims even though That's not a thing Hey, we saw we saw the one black gondorian in return of the king. Okay This is like the worst humor I've ever heard That's one of the major religions in the world, right? First you got the hobbits there clearly pagan earth worshipers there No, they're not Okay, they're clearly pagan earth worshipers. Let me stop you there. No carry on They get because they live in holes in the ground, you know like pagan earth worshipers Stay who live in holes. Pagans live under the ground, right? They worship their houses is what you're saying. Wearing halloween I mean, that's how they do it You're looking at me like Weird for just letting you know that pagans sprout from the ground from halloween. It's not about where you came from It's about who you are I Was housing a smoke weed every day the finest weed I didn't realize that smoking weed was pagan. I like how they put that clip in there like did you know Do they smoke weed in the film? I need you to see this clip. It's also not literal weed. No, of course No, they they talk about pipe weed Pipe weed fucking crazy smokers, dude pipe Pack on that religion though. It's basically utopia. I'm pretty sure token would love to live in one of those igloos token. Stop it, please This is his token Yeah, token get it because they smoke weed tokens. Oh my god Learn how to read Your it's tolkien, right? You pronounce the i tolkien When you're writing a book you're tolkien Yeah And smoke weed every sure but the movies constantly remind us the importance of having a strong will and the hobbits as nice as they are They just don't really have that the only reason frode What the most resilient to the ring don't have strong wills How could you watch the film see what sam does and go? He doesn't have a strong will Sam's just really piece of shit when you get down to it Interesting take just because you want to chill in your little Little hobbiton with you with your weed in your in your beers doesn't mean you don't have a strong will Well, that I mean, they're super stubborn about staying too. Yeah, they're like fucking leave us alone You know like those pagans Stubborn weed smoking pagan Face All the way to mordor with the ring is because sam is there to pick up his slack And neither of them would have left the shire in the first place if ganolf had them made them Wait, whoa No, he doesn't force them to they totally I mean you could maybe argue for sam Yeah, even when they get to rivendell like he's kind of you know going from rivendell. Yeah, they all Down with the sickness gandolf does not make them leave the shire There's only two choices run away to safety Or stay and die That's not much of a choice Gandalf just put them in the right direction to hopefully not die Dude gandalf forcing shit, man Oh We're not there's a war Well, well, I guess this is going by quickly because they're too stupid to actually make arguments. They just Say shit and hope that you agree with it because they're little Doing the thing is like if we get super broad and pick random pieces out We can make me make it look like something else. You're like, hmm Pagan earth worshipers and he just doesn't even begin to qualify it It's kind of understood the hobbiton would be annihilated I mean, they're a naive innocent people whose beliefs are nice and all but they're not the chosen people Frodo gets to go to heaven and they're not the chosen people. What does he mean? Like they're not elves in that sense or like I guess so does he mean these guys The weird one This is starting to sound a lot like church through good works. He regains his divinity the band. No, not the Is that that's a thing in frodo through good works I want to hear what he said. I couldn't hear that It's an all but they're not the chosen people Frodo gets to go to heaven in the end But that's the exception to the rule through good works. He regains his divinity Well, that's not that's not why he goes to the undying plans. He goes there because he was a ring bear That's uh, yeah through his good works. There you go. Totally there you go I mean that's It's not quite the same thing as heaven in the in the christian sense It's I mean that part fits in with the catholicism Does that qualify sam as a ring bearer then? What does it mean to qualify? Well, sam does go he as a ring bear. He does eventually go over there too But it the implication or at least what i'm reading from what he's saying is that the implication is that pretty much No one except for frodo is going to go to the undying lands as though it was like Exclusionary heaven or whatever the hell but it doesn't work the same way I'm not exactly well Read on this because I haven't finished the silmarillion and I only read like the first 50 pages and then stopped Well, um, probably knows more than me, but I know it's not the same According to chat frodo He got a finger off and he can't play the guitar again A lot like church and speaking of the chosen people what about the dwarfs the band no not the Why would I suddenly be talking? No the dwarfs and more of the rings. They're like anti-semitic caricature of the jewish people All right I'm gonna lay this on really thick for you. If you look at a dwarf and you think jew I don't think Is with the dwarfs per se. Yeah, I think you might have some deep-seated That you need to work out with yourself It's a bit of a projected leap for sure. It's all the dwarfs are the chosen people um So I'm actually shocked the elves are going to be the chosen people, right? I'm assuming I assume so The dwarves of the jew, all right Of course because they covet gold and shit, right? That's gonna be okay Short harry gold loving giant noses. Yep. There you go. They're sacred homeland because their avarice made them dig too deep Like little nazi flashcards at least the ones that managed to survive the mass extra. Um Okay, I gotta I'm gonna share with you a little a little story. So, uh I don't remember if it was exactly someone in the nazi party or the nazi party specifically I might be just remembering it a little bit But someone affiliated with nazis sent tolking a letter saying like, hey, will you support us and our hatred of jews and Uh, tolking wrote them a letter saying, you know, fuck yourself He was not anti-semitic and he would not have made this as a caricature. They like golden big noses. It's clear And it's clear that he's reading into that so clearly. I think the stereotype is on this guy No joke. Oh my god. Is he gonna say orcs or black people, please? Oh my god He does I bet he does Everybody place your bets. We do how it's apparently it's racist Yeah, i'm going right on that. I'm saying cracks. Thanks dwarves or jews. Who knows what they think orcs are extermination of dwarves that happened Sound familiar? You're grasping a little bit. Oh, am I a little bit exterminated? Oh my god It was no it makes sense. It was done by the ball rock, which is super fiery just like the ovens at Auschwitz He's like big walking allegedly He's trying to say that like the dwarves are almost exterminated the dwarves were not relegated to this one mountain Yes, they were Yeah, because they were all in Israel This is a stupid question, but I just want to be clear. This this isn't a satirical position. They're taking right? I don't know. I don't know. Oh, this is absolutely not I don't know what to make of it because it seems like it would be Like the onion where whatever their headline is or whatever the name of a video is you're meant to interpret it the opposite way, but like No, we're actually making this argument that they're actually making Yes, a hundred percent when they started doing these videos, they were very serious Um, this is actually an argument. They're making a hundred percent Fucking hell, dude. Okay Great the dwarves language that token made up is based on an ancient jewish tongue It's a direct quote from token. I do think of the dwarves like juice Why'd you I would sing token I would love to see the content statement that I do not try the thing is if like there's a whole bunch of quotes that people always take Out of context like wildly out of context I don't know what's the question that led to him answering it and saying it like this, you know Included in the run down there. Oh, we can't see shit. Cool. Yeah, we can't we can't see the question We can't see the rest of the answer based on an ancient jewish tongue. It's a direct quote from token Okay, hold on just basing it off of Another language does not mean shit because a lot of the lord of the rings was also based on Norse mythology like almost all of the names for shit. He pulled directly from Norse mythology and beowulf At once native and alien in their habitation speaking the languages of the country but with an accent due to their private tongue so He's not saying it in reference to anything other than They are native and alien in their habitations Speaking the languages of the country but with an accent due to their own private tongue. That's all he means You could take you could take that whole sentence and switch jews for amish And it would still be 100 accurate. There's a good chance that he would agree with that Yeah, well, this is what I mean if you just take that part out Then you can make it be about anything Yeah, this doesn't I don't see how this is different from taking any aspect of any culture and using that in some way for a Fantasy world which is done All the time even if we go strictly by what they're saying Like sure, let's assume that the dwarves are allegorical for jews directly The dwarves are portrayed as the good guys in both the hobbit and the lord of the rings. So what exactly is your point? I'd love to know what they think of the goblins in harry potter. Oh, yeah, this is the thing that have a Alien and predator being racist Oh, yeah, I did see that. Um, okay. Yeah, the aliens the aliens represent, uh, black women Yeah Um, somebody somebody in chat said, um Hulkin stated he wanted the dwarves to have a rich history and culture ingrained with them Hence he picked the jews not that they were physically based off of the et cetera To lay the gold No, they like gold. That's it. Yeah, they like gold I mean, I love gold, but I'm not a jew. That's a reference to a gold member. I call that gold member I love I do think of the dwarves like jews End of quote full context. Okay. Oh, okay. So they are fucking around. They must be fucking around They're not I'm telling you they're not I remember watching and reading these things years ago Um, they are not fucking around Sounds like they want to straddle the line between we totally mean it and we totally don't like plausible deniability on both ends Yeah Like I say stupid shit in a funny voice Not you Although I would say it is risky for a publication like them to be anti woke I don't know. Yeah because there's obviously there's a money to be made right now in like Turning woke and then, you know, I said just one satirical website now becomes this site where the headlines they published are in complete earnest This is hard to believe for me, but uh I don't know. Yeah, that um, it seems to be on the line. I really don't know what to make of it one way or the other But like the fact that you just said full context when you could pause to see it wasn't do anything That just makes him a liar. It doesn't make It doesn't mean he's trying to be satirical or doing parody. It just makes him a liar I can see you have some sort of point there But like what about muslims in hindu's two of the biggest religions on the planet and I don't recall seeing That's a made-up word. You made that word Easterlings dark scan. They write the giant elephants. They look like evil dervishes They don't look like evil racist police sketch if anyone living in the middle. They look evil. What is that? What are you saying? They look like soldiers Yeah, see this guy's injecting a whole lot of his own personal biases into this like I like look at there's even a scene in Uh, the two towers where they first meet ferramir where he looks at one of the guys He's killed an arrow and he was like man It's a shame that war brought this guy so far from home just so he could die here like that's really shitty I wish that didn't happen that thing but Okay All right Middle-Easter India they're technologically advanced, but they're in cahoots with the wrong god So they can't be trusted. Okay, but no like racist white christian thinks that muslims have all the technology The stereotypical evil muslim has like a long beard and lives in the cave Maybe it's dwarves again token was a student of medieval history and literature And if robin had prince of thieves taught me anything It's the muslims during the crusades had things like math and telescopes. It just couldn't found it all the white people Is he literally that's not a real? But that movie's wrong Wow Okay, now I do believe this this video is trying to make it like a definitive point now. This is such a weird video Seriously, they're taking it serious. They were like some of the early woke publication The exchange between those two guys is really awkward because it's written It's like pre-written like as a script to sound conversational In which case, I don't know why they don't just sit down and like not write anything Just hack have an actual conversation and record it But it's like they wrote this out first as if this is supposed to be funny to watch I don't really know Oh my god. Good lord Tokens version of muslims have a bunch of real people saying shad is triggered the shad in chat Um That's a mention that he keeps saying that these guys are muslims. Where Where does it say? Well, they look evil. Did you hear him? They look Oh wait, so they're brown and they look evil. Therefore I wonder if that says something about you not about the film slash books Oh shad is that um, the problem is we're already stacked and this I'll just jump out. No, no, no. This is you got nothing to say anyway No, this is like four of the people. I don't even know what lord of the rings is who the fuck is jer Tolkien No, sure. Don't you try it? I see you trying to escape with this Seriously, a lot of people are still waiting to come in and stuff So like I want to make sure we get we get a decent chunk as many people as we can Um, but don't worry shad This video is awful But their souls are still corrupted. We're the christians then humans. No Wrong the humans are atheists or agnostics Basically, all the people have stopped going to church because when they should hold the people that stop going to church Stop going to church. Why it doesn't save you any time to just say they just don't believe in god Does they stop going to church? Well, that includes theists. What a strange way to describe them Yeah, and please show supporting evidence. Oh, wait, look look at this aragorn opening doors. Isn't that enough for you? Just like atheists open doors I I wonder if perhaps religion wasn't the main Part of the story either the book or the movies and therefore it was not Relevant to the current plot And maybe you're reaching across the planet Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't like this video No I guess I don't hate it as much as I hated cinema virgins video, but Oh, yeah, I imagine all of you fabulous curious to Hear your thoughts on that video. I don't know should I do that now or should we wait until the video is done I don't I assume now the the mere idea of you giving your thoughts on cinematic Uh, venom's video cinema virgin Really fucked it at the end so that can't be true. Yeah, you you do you miss the gay sex like what the fuck He simulated it. He was not into it. He could tell So what did you think of that video? Tell the people? Okay, so I know that I am seen as the most facetious of probably anyone that has been on this show much less Hosted Um, yeah, you know people Yeah, people think I'm pretty hyperbolic and all that shit Shut the fuck up rags. I'm not dealing with your shit tonight. So, um, yeah, you know, there's uh I'm maybe a little bit hyperbolic on some things but I gotta say of literally every youtuber I have ever seen in the Decade plus that I've been using this website I have never seen anyone worse than cinema virgin. I would consider The worst the worst by far. I mean it was pretty bad. I will give it. Wow I would so I'm going to quantify this and or qualify this rather in such a way That is indisputable First being that he didn't get a single fucking thing right in that entire hour and a half of worthless garbage ass video He literally stretched so far that he couldn't even manage to pluck a point that made any level of sense Not even like the It's insane to me that he managed to make that video Without even addressing the points that most people make that are still almost universally incorrect I don't know like first off drop the whole attempt at being dug walker because Aside from him not being a good youtuber and never having been a good youtuber. It's not someone you want to look up to You're also not funny In any respect or intelligent for that matter Couple that with your inability to make a single cogent point with any supporting evidence and your willingness to accuse the entire efap audience of insulting your family that doesn't exist And what? He he uh said that the efap audience was attacking his family. Oh, yeah I wouldn't believe it for a fucking second. Well, I don't believe it because I don't believe he has a family in the first place What you think you paid for that house on his own Well, you know, that's all up to your subjective interpretation, of course um The fact that you act like a little bitch when people insult you when you insulted people It like every five minutes of your video Goes to show what a spineless loser you are a complete tool You need to Get some talent before deciding to make youtube videos or Anything else for the rest of your life and you need to shave off that disgusting hair Okay, this is a PSA to anyone who has thinning hair or receding hairline as someone who had Both and then shaved it before it ever got bad So you will save yourself so much self-respect if you just shave the damn thing off rather than pretending like it's ever going to get better It's really embarrassing when you keep it there and perhaps hide it under a beanie Or proudly present it while you are simulating gay sex with your weird pseudo boyfriend, whoever that dude It's an odd one So please just Shave it off. You might I mean you're not going to gain any intelligence from it Unfortunately, I think you need to go back into the public school system or any school system for that matter to gain that But yeah, I guess I could rip into you, but I'm just too tired to do that That's not ripping into You know, that was that was very reserved You sound like my wife when she talks to our cat I Had to have been in that call because I'm probably forgetting so much shit that was in that episode That for the most part the guys broke down pretty well aside from forgetting a few things They kind of brought up and their insult game wasn't half as good as mine would have benefited That's a disparage you but man, I would have made this person cry and then complain about this manic Don't tell people you have manic depression as a get out of jail free card aside from it being just Pathetic on a level that not even a child would go to because they wouldn't know what manic depression is in the first place It's just really sad that you would use that after insulting people consistently You can stop your pissy little snipes on twitter acting like a five-year-old Pretending like you have any say with your audience of four people who actually give a shit about your god awful content If you decide to delete comments That are literally just constructive criticism and pretending like people are attacking your non-existent family You make it a little difficult to sympathize with you Kind of like it's a little difficult to sympathize with a guy who pretends like it is Body harassment to ask why he's wearing a jacket indoors Oh, there we are. Uh, all right. There you have it. This is the thing React to that last part if memory serves. Did he actually make a point like a good point rags? Do you remember? The one I'm trying to think if there was a point that he made that was Legitimate or at least could be like understandable like wrong But still, you know, like you like you understand why a lay person would be like, oh, yeah It's a problem. They didn't ride the eagles to Mordor and then you just explain it to him and they are So I don't think explaining anything to him would work I don't think so either screeching in a tree about how much he's Very disturbed by the gays You know, I don't think there's any way we can finish the gays are pretty spooky. Come on I love I love how he's like guys. I'm totally not homophobic. I just really don't like the gays for some strange reason I would like it if they were openly gay, but because they're not because they're literally not gay That I don't He doesn't make sense. Oh, that's another thing. There are so many things in that video that didn't make sense. I love how he Tried to quote-unquote call out peter jackson for um Not including like the most irrelevant character in the entire book series that absolutely no one in their right mind to Like actually cares that he wasn't there He didn't even call no not tom bombadil Like not even a character who I even remembered the point of being in the Book like it would make sense if he said tom bombadil the problem is that he's too stupid to make sense So he didn't reference. I don't know. I genuinely don't remember who it was It's like I I can think of like the two people that led pippin through uh I mean it's tirith in the books. They weren't in the movie I didn't think it was a big deal, but I can understand why people would be a little disappointed in that And then he didn't even reference uh tom bombadil. He referenced some other guy. I don't even remember who it was Not howl to your chat Um, so um something horn guy. No, howl to you Erkan brand I think it started with an h but I can't remember I'd have to go back and rewatch the video Uh, but yeah, it was really strange that he would make that argument when like 20 minutes earlier He was like, I do like the books and y'all didn't think they were supposed to be in there. Anyway It sounded like Bernie Sanders Some who call a dwarf Also fix the hole in your wall His favorite characters were blirts the rig wraiths And crema wim tongue. They were his three favorite Fucking harry potter. I You know, I don't have that much against harry potter, but after watching that um that video I know hate harry potter and everything and anyone associated with it Yeah, I can't say I'm the biggest fan of harry potter after that Yeah, it's like I didn't even really have anything that much against it No, I do kept he kept appealing to harry potter. It was really weird It ain't harry potter made something D are you talking about the franchise broadly or just the books the movies? Oh, it's just that he kept bringing them up as like a counterpoint to lord of the rings Like hey, this is what lord of the rings does. Look at how harry potter does it better. It was like, what? What stop Do anything better than lord of the rings I mean, I I don't even know what you would compliment harry potter overlord. It's like he was like harry is a better character than frodo It's like, why are we doing this? Why is there was this? Oh my god, and the kimly wanted frodo dead you have like the You know, I'm not reading comprehension the Perception skills of a fucking dead goldfish I don't know how you managed to listen to that quote more than once unless you Didn't watch the movies, which is probably the case and never come away with the idea that kimly wanted frodo dead And then he listed that as a criticism. It didn't even call out why that would be a inconsistent part of the character It's an odd one. You didn't even justify his wrong opinion on anything Well, I he tried to justify the um the the kimly thing. He went through the quote in the scenes and he got it totally wrong But he tried it's one of my favorite things ever. It wasn't a casual thought. It was no. I checked kimly wants them dead Double check to make sure Calling bill bow dildo So Larry is that it is so funny though. Oh, it's it's so it's so creative. He replaced the bees with deez Truly like galaxy brain jokes there I'm pretty sure I would have died of a violent aneurysm in the middle of streaming if I was with you Probably good that I wasn't there Excellent Yeah, I know those are some very Scrambled thoughts. I thought of actually writing something out But then I was like no, I probably shouldn't do that because that would just be like Getting back into like the reason why I left youtube in the first place So, yeah, your video was awful. You're awful your attempts at sniping at Mauler repeatedly because you're too much of a sour little pussy to come on the show and Debate your terrible opinions go to show what a Insignificant weasel of a human being you are and I'm only glad that no one cares enough about your shitty youtube channel to actually give a shit about this Failure of a feud you're trying to start based on your awful video You went after Lord of the Rings. Wolf doesn't like when you do that I don't yeah, I don't like you as a person And I'd like to confirm that this was you Taking it easy on him. Yes Not giving enough of a shit to really Collect all of my thoughts. I had an alfredo pasta when I asked for a marinara I I have I have a two liter of cherry coke when I wanted a 20 ounce of cherry coke and they didn't even bring me My god my god damn parmesan bites Wait, wait, isn't the cherry coke thing kind of all right because you got more cherry coke than you were expecting I don't know rag is I already had More than I should have had today in the first place So I only wanted the 20 ounce so that I didn't have to drink all this which means I'm gonna have to probably throw this No We have these boxes that are cold inside you could save it for later And you know what I'm I'm even more disappointed because I was like man This would be great because I'm on the stream tonight and then I'm ate that disgusting alfredo shit because chicken sausage and pepperoni do not go with alfredo And then I ate it and I was like wow, I really regret doing that and Now i'm just like well, what do I do with myself? I guess you drink it. I guess we continue this lord of the rings video. Yeah, I mean Yeah, we were watching a video pretty racist so far and we're about to find out about the atheist Okay That's when all the magic in miller starts to disappear because all the world man cares about is because we solve the world's problems industry or things you can Touch Through hand No more magic because we want to build buildings. Okay. Well chicken doesn't know dominoes chicken doesn't go with dominoes alfredo chat I need to make that clear That's pretty bad if you can't make alfredo and chicken go together. Well, that's the thing dominoes I don't even know why I bothered order. Well, no, I've ordered from them because I can't order from pizza hut Are they closed down in your area? No, I just have a very bad relationship with the people You're running out of pizza places, man They like had to close a bunch of stalls or some shit pizza huts losing out to dominoes right now Uh, well, do you have a do you have a chuck e cheeses around you? Why well first off. No second. Why would I go with chucky cheese because they have father john Chuckie cheese a father johns. Is that near you? Yes I just Father Jonathan the pizza man. I just wanted a pasta That's all I wanted and now how about you pass the pizza over to me I'm having a night You know It started great with tonal than any laugh and it's like all joy was sapped from the world Much like the atheist humans of lord the ring sapped the world of magic by creating buildings once total left Streams magic was sapped because that's how it worked. Yeah, he totally has references for those But they lost the humans are the only good characters That's why the elves jump on their boats and bounce the fuck out of there Jimmy roll Exactly, yeah divine perfect beings who only fight when it's absolutely necessary and at the end of that Yes, christians. Wait, he said only fight when it's absolutely necessary. It's not absolutely necessary for the elves to fight in helms deep They're doing it to help the men What does he mean absolutely necessary by the way like self-defense Yeah, but yeah, because again the helms deep wouldn't count surely The movies when all the other religions of middle earth have to go back and scoop up giant mounds of elephant poop Or trim the beards of giant wooden tree people the elves get to move on to paradise because they were right all along Also, again off the straight up an angel sent down from heaven read the summer early That's about the only accurate thing he said so far Yeah, but angels and divine beings sent as agents of a greater You know being down to earth. That's not exclusive to christianity. I don't even know why I'm roughing a lot of stuff Why is this guy saying that he should read the summer early in when it's clear he Oh, he probably just read that on reddit and Put that in the script. He hasn't read the summer early and I can guarantee it Lies he probably read the wikipedia though or The elves are like buddhist or shintoist because they're a super exclusive group Of warriors who only fight when they have to and they live in a monastery There are a lot of waterfalls seems vaguely buddhist all the elves armor and weaponry looks vaguely japanese And when they vanquish the ultimate evil vaguely japanese It's a nirvana band. No, not the band But why would Tolkien a self-described turbo christian? There's no way he said These two are like the most unfunny people Have they got a chuckle out of anyone yet? No Um, no, even people are scared It's hurting my brain I literally have a headache I'm not even kidding And I and it only started with this so it's either because of this or it's because of wolf talking about the pasta I have AIDS now Man, I don't know if my headache is induced by these two idiots Or my alfredo pasta or both Well, I hate alfredo. How much of that two liter have you drank so far? Not much You'd better get on that man. Get on that shit. Yeah, I get yeah, I drink some more I already had a Pepsi before Getting this I'm not Thirsty enough to drink two liters of cherry. You don't have to drink it all at once Just hook up an IV That's why I said I'm not drinking all of it Story glorifying eastern religions. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, they're they're not christians at all The elves are a super exclusive group Of beautiful wealthy white people who live in a giant temple mansion And follow a leader named el ron el rond It's not their leader. He's like upper management. So he corrects that but he doesn't correct token This is this is pain like I don't know I'm the joke is at the expense if this is a joke then it's done at the expense of Something people really like or is this like a really 40 chess 5d 12 connect for style of saying That this is actually making fun of people who think the lord of the rings is racist because they're trying to make those people seem Really crazy. It was very poorly received. Uh, and there's Shit tons of corrections in the comments. So Whatever they tried to do it didn't work out if this was supposed to be a parody of people They failed because they're not funny or intelligent If this was serious then it failed because they're not funny or intelligent Um The end of me they follow el ron to space What do you know you person with things Ridiculous things coming out of face. I spent the past 12 goddamn hours watching lord of the rings I am the authority here. Oh 12 hours, man. Are you okay? Yeah, I mean sure There's some eye strain and mild Light sensitivity So you're saying the light hurts us. No shut up. It hurts the pressure. Stop it Oh my god Okay, getting all right. I'm losing years um Now I know it's not a joke because they're failing pretty hard right here in particular. Yes, this is them trying to be funny I felt the air on my arms rise When he did that Yes, man, like it triggered my gag reflex. You shouldn't expose people's stuff like this without warning How fucked up I'm pretty sure this I'm pretty sure this video violates the geneva convention. Yeah Wow Well, I'm gonna ask you a personal question. I didn't do it on pip I was Never ever ever for any re well My family had a gun to the head. Okay, that's why I did it. So he's I see because they had a gun on their head All of the guns were at all of their heads aside for that Never um, never show me a cracked video ever again for as long as we our trends. I'll make a note of that myself Can't handle that crack. I mean that wasn't as bad as cinema virgin, but That's only because we're Well, yeah, because it was an hour and 14 minutes shorter What a terrible name too like the last person I want a movie opinion on is from somebody called cinema virgin I want a cinema prostitute somebody who's been around the block a little bit knows what they're talking about So another video they have is why the world no longer needs james bond It's too it's too much you just sit there and you're like well, so did you because It needs him like like we like we did before he was protecting us. I don't know I I got one guess about what this video what that video is about fucking misogyny and that's it We don't need him because he treats women like shit because we don't need him anymore because he's not a misogynist and I'd That's we need more misogyny Baller 2020 Yes, I will run on that platform Can I be your vp? John Yeah, okay, can I be your secretary of state? Yes Secretary of defense what the fuck Secretary of defense. No, I want to be I want to be the I isn't the secretary of state third in line If two of you were to die in a sudden vehicular accident because of brake failure if something bad happened to you We don't need to answer this question We actually uh, there's this should be better. Okay. It's not why Lord the Rings is racist It's why Lord the Rings sucks Oh another one of these i'm ready. Let's do it. I'm glad we'll see Ow What am I looking at? What is that? It's a bullet Vaughn fry will die All right, what a what a name I hope this is No one no one this is not copyrighted no one would claim credit You can't be too careful of the internet Oh, oh the bullet went through your head and killed you. Oh my god. It's it's negatonally Okay He looks ready to review a movie My best plastic cup for this for you I'm Oh, yeah, that is a plastic It kind of remembers me of uh Jared's cup dude, you know with the green liquid We all had that cup that was smooth on top. It was ribbed, you know for most of it on the way We all had one of those cups from just wherever that we they were gathered from vacations and restaurants and gift baskets We all had them in our cupboard. Someone help me out here. What's the problem with his face? Is it his eyes are too big? His eye brows are too bulky or his forehead is too large I think it might just be his he's got a scowly kind of expression He feels like maybe we just caught him at a bad secret. Yeah, he he looks He looks like he wants to hurt me Well, I was gonna say he feels like he's in my personal space no matter how far away I am Yeah, he looks like a not so bad bad guy in a not so good movie Oh my god, he's the henchman bad guy Uh Oh, that would explain why you all went silent for me for a while if it's hopefully it's back up But we were there was incredible comedy there Well, I can save those jokes from this Well, yeah, well all the last thing I heard was we need to do the test and then it was silence Oh Okay, so I'll I'll give the test to you now. Okay, okay So move your body like left and right and watch his eyes follow you no matter what part of the screen you're looking at Oh, yeah, I already agreed with that shit because I mean Yeah, I guess it helps that they're scented so you know, but yes That's the thing it's like, you know those bookmarks that are kind of like 3d But they're not really and if you change it it slightly changes too His face is like that It just changes as you move around and it's really unsettling Hopefully those streams are still yeah, it's intact. Please fix yourself, sir He's got some opinions to drop on those shitty told token films. Okay Okay It's one thing to say that the lord of the rings is overrated It's a whole another thing to say completely sucks dick, which is what I'm trying to tell you folks Oh my god I'm bold statement. I'm willing to hear some arguments. Yeah, I doubt you'll change my mind Uh, look how his voice does not fit his face. So not at all. It's so whiny I immediately dislike this person You guys the video is black and white. That means it's legitimate. Okay, dude He sounds like someone just going through puberty, but he also looks like he's edging toward 50 He looks like that crazy reporter from predator 2 Oh I feel the need to finally I feel the need to finally Time a festivus around us and the festivus. Don't you fucking drag the best holiday You know, you know what this video goes About your shitty holiday. No, what this proves is that it's shot in black and white like a horror movie in halloween These are your people rags. These are your people This this video is a horror video Just by virtue of the fact that he says festivus. He is automatically distancing himself from the glorious christmas army He's claw. He's clawing his way toward it. He's desperately trying. You can keep those doors closed But he's gonna keep on knocking this guy probably no this guy probably like he like I don't know what holidays he's like I don't know qualms are You guys understand why he's making this video. This is the area of grievances. Let him celebrate festivus. Fucking hell Festivus is an actual word meaning A secular holiday celebrated on december 23rd as an alternative to the pressures and commercialism of the christmas as an alternative to christmas Yeah, that's what I thought but it's not halloween So you guys don't know about christmas. He's in so he's a sister of christmas. I see he's trying to be he's like those He's a fucking asshole I can't do christmas. I gotta do festivus This guy is doing festivus. Absolutely wrong because at the start he had a christmas tree not an aluminum pole Well, he he went to a restaurant and got a fucking plastic cup and he's you he's drinking alone from his plastic That's a festivus cup Festivus cup from a barbeque restaurant. Yes. Sorry. Someone in the chat said why is I hate lord of the rings and male genitalia a friend Male genitalia Sometimes you can't explain these things That's interesting. Yeah, why does he look like ray william johnson's long lost twin I'm doing me a big confuse right now Oh, hold on because of ray william johnson I don't know the It's just a lot of things A big heckin confuser, you know, you'll know who ray william johnson is He's like that he's like one of the youtubers that Is kind of an embarrassment to everyone else who uses the platform He was one of the first yeah, he was the first big youtuber, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was the first really big three Remember this guy Yeah You know, I can kind of see the resemblance now. I can oh man after after zane left the backstreet boys It was all downhill from there You mean uphill. He had a successful youtube show He looks like a fake person that people make to be yeah, you know Like the the boy band super cool Like if he's like the he's like a shitty version of chip skylark. Wow Oh He looks 15 and 55 at the same time I actually agree with that one. Yeah, of course The hobbit an unexpected journey, which if i'm not mistaken is what one book turned into three movies that are three hours plus a piece All right, so i don't have to load the reins. Okay. No one's like that talking about the dynamics of the ring Oh boy, let me see if I got this straight All right, I would I would like before he be he goes on I would like to propose We take ourselves a guest here in this call. Is this going to this is going to be nine minutes of a One take one shot or will there be cuts and editing in this video? I think editing I think since the shit out of this and he's probably gonna flub a bunch of times Since he black and white it and there was the bullet intro. There's a chance it was edited I'm gonna I'm gonna put my money on. Yes. It was it was it's gonna cut to different bits Yeah, editing though. I do think there's reason to believe this will be one one shot I do think that you could guess that I I'm gonna go with that one. I don't I'm not confident on it. I wouldn't put a lot of money on it But the odds are long. So maybe I'd win right, you know what I mean? So yes one shot It's definitely not gonna be well spoken or articulated I mean it's already not well spoken or I'm just a gentle but the vote's real I'd say it's gonna get like a like a voice synthesizer to make himself sound like he Dude, if it is one shot, imagine thinking you can take down the Lord the Rings trilogy in eight minutes of just rambly Good luck my good man Sauron had the ring and yeah, if I get any names wrong It's because I've seen each of these movies once and don't give a shit Oh, so it's perfect to make a video on excellent great. That's good. I'll be Each of these movies once and I don't give a shit. Here's my video with my controversial opinion. No joke I find it very ironic. That's usually these idiots. I saw the movie one time and I don't give a shit Like why even what what if you don't remember why are you angry though? Why do you care? To ever see them again All right, so Sauron if I believe I'm correct here has the ring that controls all the other rings and is the most powerful And is very important and with this ring he can conquer the whole middle earth world or wherever we call this place He's so dismissive Point thank you. I'm so glad I can Perfectly imitate my favorite youtuber cosmonaut retarded hour I don't know. He's got a ring of something I guess I mean if he starts the movie out in ancient times with the ring and he's easily defeated by humans What difference does it goddamn make if he gets the ring back? What the fuck? That's a weird first point. All right Allow me to dismantle this first off the movie makes it explicitly clear That it was the last alliance of men and elves that went to go fight Sauron. That was Not easily done. That was love like all that was left That was that's the first scene of the movie you fucking imbecile Second the movie he's Sauron in the movie. It's different in the books, but in the movie He is uh He's cheap. He's just he's destroyed once the ring is severed from his head head hand. Sorry Technically. Yeah. Yeah technically right Well, yeah, anyway I can't remember the exact quote off the top of my head, but when Gandalf meets Sauron at orthink Sauron or Sauron says that Sauron Uh, is not like his body is not reformed yet. He needs the ring to Get his power and body back once again It's different in the books, but he's going by the movies because I don't think he's actually intelligent enough to read anything so He's certainly not reading a script. You're just wrong. You're just wrong. Why are you so stupid? The implication of the criticism as well seems to be that it's like, okay So Sauron did X with the ring and he was stopped. So why do we care that he's you know, maybe gonna get it back? We can just beat him again It's like look if there's a crazy axe murderer running around town killing people And you take his axe off him and then like with ease and it's like, oh, he might get it back By the way, it's like, yeah, we might want to do something about that actually It's like the crazy axe murder guy There's a couple kids running around. You know, I don't I don't think It's a bit of a risk, but on a Middle-Earth scale where he's, you know, destroying Several country sides burning and destroying. I think it's worth looking into to say the least Apparently not None shit Then we've got humor in this film That was so perfect Shit Dude this uh He's not like I'm not trying to be too mean here, but you did not get a good voice when you gambled voice wise The genetic lottery was not kind to you Wow Shit Oh I'm also gonna double down on the he did not edit anything into this video I was totally wrong. I I thought this is gonna be overly cut, but it's oh my god. It's horrifying The mistake I made was like it's nine minutes. Surely he's cut it No, I'm doubling down on it Maybe somewhere down the line, but it's definitely he sat down with the intention of saying as much as he could in one In one take. Yeah, maybe like he gets up at one point to like do something, you know, answer the door And then cuts it there. What difference does it goddamn make if he gets the ring back? He gets his body back That's awesome. Why does he think it makes no difference? That's really weird of all the things you could criticize The movie literally says he needs it to get his powers back if he doesn't have his powers he can't really do much, can he? It's very concerning if he gets his power back just saying Yeah, he almost destroyed the world that last time humor in this films Which is limited to the slapstick it's films very sparingly And it's juvenile. I mean it's like, oh you get some hobbits playing around with fireworks That's that's the humor and all of Lord of the Rings all of its play with fireworks. Oh my god What a terrible take. There's a couple of other jokes. Yeah, you're in there That's your humor for the fellowship film. Wow, that was real funny Wasn't that wasn't that meant more as like character establishment? Yeah, no, really well, I mean most of the jokes are gonna be establishing a sense of place I mean for sure a sense of place, but also a sense of like these are the mischievous ones. Yeah, right And they're having a good time times are good, right? It's right. Right. Yeah But but like most of the jokes are gonna be combed up with you know other events happening Like this is he's like, um, he comes across a parody reviewer to me like he'd be in a movie You like someone's like, oh check out youtube in some like really shit like Hollywood thing and it's like this guy This guy is what ryan johnson thinks all of us are Wow, it's shit. No All right No, no one cracks a small at all. In fact, the only time anybody laughs during these movies is When they're not supposed to like smeagol talking to He's talking about fellowship fellowship has tons of people laughing. That was a cut. We were right Cut out the times he drank probably We shouldn't betray froto, that's the thing that everybody laughs at is that Jump cut between the two personas. Was that something people left? That brings me okay. I'm sorry. It pause it pause it. Okay. Okay, mr. Retard, um, please find me one human being on the face of the earth who laughed at smeagol speaking to himself Those are some of the best scenes he's like arguing whether or not he should Help the master or betray him, right? That's like one of the big shit It's not exactly. I don't remember being a funny scene They may have been like one or two moments where you might crack a smile at him losing his shit But I don't know. I don't this is really weird that he picked that also strange the the viability of allowing sarin his ring returned then Slapstick humor then This like it's like what is this structure? What are we doing? We're just we're just running on with anything, huh? Wait, so when he says nobody laughs in these movies Does he mean nobody watching them laughs or does he mean nobody in the movies laughs? Now I'm confused because he's the only at first. He said nobody laughs in these movies And then he's like and the only thing people laugh at Is all I'm talking to himself. Yeah, it's it's really I don't think so nobody laughs at these Yeah, he's picking up I can't tell the humor being juvenile before and now he's saying oh, there's nothing to laugh at Also, I can't tell does he look really concerned? or anxious or Scared here to anybody else a man of a million faces I guess we just to pause them in the middle of a dude. Why don't you get like It's a bad take every time we pause it if every time you pause it's a bad take on his face Okay, first off I said the first one might have been It's been two pauses total that I've seen Not really established in a huge strong trend, but he's in the middle of saying something So I don't I don't know he's I don't know dude Why have all the glasses or cups in your house? Did you get the fucking baby sippy cup with like the pig? Yeah, that's as fast of his cup you fuck Drinking the soy milk, maybe it'll make you look and sound like a man Wow, that was real funny. No, no one cracks a small at all. In fact, the only time they fight last during these movies is When they're not supposed to like smeagol talking to himself the precious We shouldn't betray Frodo. That's the thing that everybody laughs at is that jump cut between the two personas That brings me to a whole nother thing. I just love the idea that he's like, well that criticism's over next one Yeah Oh my god, don't eat that amazing people Okay, I mean it didn't he win a fucking like several awards. Yeah, he didn't he didn't Make up something for him. Yeah, they had to make a new like category of award because Andy circus was so good doing that I'm curious what he thinks a good performance is so I can get a kind of comparison to work with Sorry what? So like if if he thinks that Andy circus here is smeagol wasn't that good I'm very curious to see what he thinks a really good performance is so I can get some kind of a Gauge on what his scale is for good acting probably been a bilbo bumble bumble as a smeagol Makes sense. It would be him in the mo cap suit. He would do a much better job Just picturing him doing the scenes like are we crazy? No Well, I'm I feel that I am no you don't I think that actually would have been something to laugh at Motion capture stuff. I mean anybody can do it That's an interesting opinion. All right, then All right, Kratos around it's easy to edit out when you goof It's not That's all acting as long as you're not doing like a live What do you mean? Does he think that movies are filmed live? Yeah, except for the mo cap In real time Being there and doing some voices whoopity-doo. Oh my god. This is real like Jesus christ Yeah Yeah, to every every voice actor out there in the world Super dismissive. Yeah. Yeah, you guys suck. You guys emotion The only thing easier than voice acting is mo cap acting. You're like, all right That is certainly an opinion. All right. I would like to see him do this do this acting Yeah, he's acting now. We have to get the precious whoopity-doo Yeah, seriously, um, all right, he plays every role Yeah, hey, mr. Guy If voice acting is so easy, can you give yourself a voice that sounds like? the age and gender you are flipity-doo Like please if you think that's oscar caliber stuff, then you need to quit watching movies See at this point i'm like wait a minute you fucking with me like Jesus this guy's like this guy's like a Slightly more handsome slightly more eloquent chris chan with his argumentation. Yeah No kidding. I just got definitely got like some kind of tizm going on I want to watch like Ian mccallan watch this video. I just want to see his face just to be like I think you just laugh the whole time Yeah, you'd be like this is very funny. Like what's the why did you make this? Talk about the people in the fellowship, okay Time and again, they get into redundant battles where they're the only ones who get out alive And there's way too many jews Where they're the only ones who get out alive except for foramir Well, who else is there to get out alive? This is what I mean I'm very confused by the statement. He's like they always get into fights And they're all these the ones that get out like he also said the fights are redundant I don't think he knows what that word means Well in fairness, you know What did the fight in moria achieve nothing really? The balrog wouldn't have done anything. It's fine Redundant gandalf died redundant foramir died redundant second movie. Okay the two towers How many kids died how many knights died and yet our main group is completely okay Blow my ass They're a little bit better than your average warrior for start. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to pass on that offer I'm sorry. I don't want to blow ass. Yeah, not a fab, but I just How is it that aragon lego las and gimley survive where random farmers don't explain this to me? I wonder if there's like a skill or something involved No, that would make sense And to make it even worse. They just come running right out the gate And we have these thousands of cgi orcs just fall over out of clumsiness all in the same They should have real thousands of real orcs doing it. I say what are they talking about? Falling out of clumsiness. Does he think that getting an arrow to the face is clumsy? I'm trying to think of what he's but what policy referring to have no idea what his argument is here I've legitimately no idea what he's actually arguing He's talking about the moria fight where the doors open they kind of come in full or because he's it He said the doors open And the orcs fall down from clumsiness. Well, I don't know what the orcs falling down from clumsiness part is But the doors open if he's talking about two towers I'm assuming he means the final charge before gandalf comes to help at elm z Maybe he's mistaken. It was saving private ryan. Oh, of course that can happen And we have these thousands of cgi orcs just fall over out of clumsiness all in the same pattern They're untouchable. It's like these heroes With except for when they aren't I'm gonna say except the ones that die Yeah, bormir dies gandalf dies aragorn gets knocked off a cliff um Let's see aramia gets shot three times. Yeah, he gets fucked up pretty bad Aowyn gets her arm broken Mary gets tizm armed by the stab stab Um frodo and sam they go through a bit of beating Yeah, um Uh, uh hull deer died, of course. Haldia's died. Yeah, hull deer and rick Give saurin the ring So these heroes actually have some kind of challenge because they seem to be What? So they have a challenge because nothing was challenging in the three movies for our hero. I'm going to uh, I'm gonna Give you a little a little piece of information here If saurin gets the ring They're all going to die And the story is over. Well, that'd be more interesting because they never face any challenges unless that happens. It's too easy Frodo almost dies and like multiple times in every movie. No No challenge they just cannot lose a battle they don't can't lose can't lose a battle Except for the entire ending of the first movie. I mean, yeah, it's not They it would be you be hard press to call a lot of the things that happen at lowering strict victories It's like some of it just Get hurt a lot of them are just like several victories at oscilia Like helms deep is literally just like okay. We held out long enough for other people to come save us. Yeah, we didn't die All right. Let's let's try and do that again I think he's in the middle of saying nobody gets hurt as well Like lose a limb or no shit. Oh, yeah outside of sean bean who is obligated to die in every movie Does he don't remember the other people who died? Apparently not they're obligated to die too. Oh shit But gig see it in mclellan. I knew for the first moment I saw him obligated to die. It's in mclellan. He's a dead man Sa ruman obligated to die obligated to die Rima warring time. He's a dire obligated to die. This is some good shit The rest of them they just can't be touched Wizzards man fucking wizards You know what? I hope he has some really good argument here the critiques of Gandalf's beard to do it First he's walking around with all this magic Just in his pockets Dig sex mochina thing going for dig sex Like dick sex from the machine is like, yeah, it's a modern world I guess so Can this guy explain to me where the dick sex mochina helps him at moria I hate gandalf walking around with dick sex mochina Fucking wizards with the dick sex mochina It's like having a nuke, okay this Well, he did it again. Well, I'll just use magic problem solved. Why don't you just what are you talking about? He fucking dies trying to defend like The dick sex mochina is my new favorite If you go through all of lord of the rings, it's actually rare that gandalf like Just we go from losing to just our automatic win because gandalf like he shines a light When coming down in helmets deep, it's not exactly op you can do that if you have like a big torch I actually don't think that was gandalf. I think that was the light of the sun Wrote it at the same at the right time, right? He did say he writes precisely when he means to so that allow see it's set up and pay off In that case then let's even the the balrog fight. It's like they kill each other. So He's the shield. He uses his magic to To stop the balrog from hitting him with those Sword. Yeah, which you know the balrog can just swing again. In fact, he does try that shit, you know and What else is there? It's like When he shines the light at the Nazgul to help Faramia soldiers, which by the way, we're torn to shreds at that point. So it's not like it, you know It's not like it's hyper open. He's calling it dick sex machina, which I think is unfair. That's what I'm saying You realize whatever deus ex machina comes up. We have to call it dick sex machina Forever now machina. That's it Magic your ass to the mountain you're going to Instead of what Magic your ass to the mountain. I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that gendalf cannot teleport else. He would have done it Yeah, probably Walking the whole time or how about whenever you encounter someone's a magic horse king? Yeah I can take you somewhere. How about you ride it the whole way? What is up with this? Just ride a horse in the mordor? I Why didn't we think of that? We're halfway through the arguments. So going good so far Then you have gandalf's fight with this dragon. He comes plumbing And like everybody thinks he's dead except the people who read the book or some shit I mean, yeah, I guess if you read the book beforehand, you would know how the story goes Once again rescued by dick sex machina I like this guy. I wanted to review all stuff Why didn't the eagles ride the horses into mordor? That's what I want to know This is only slightly more coherent than a jared video. Yeah Wow, I'm talking about these because I didn't read the books. I saw the movies and now I definitely am not reading the books So I believe that good for you, man. Who can't read? Yes Continues fighting the goddamn dragon. Oh, yeah What else is he gonna do on top of a mountain in the snow? Not quite entirely exhausted Defeats the dragon and I believe He falls he falls over dead. What do you mean? He wasn't exhausted. I think he was exhausted. Yeah, that's pretty clear So, um, I was looking at this guy's channel just now He has a video called why youtube sucks thumbs down He doesn't like that the that youtube has dislikes. Oh Oh, I can't imagine why he has a issue with that. Yeah, I can't think of a reason why that would be but um Yeah, gotta think guys. We have to watch some of his stand-up comedy. It's really short and it's at like 915 22% likes Oh my god, wait find like the one and we'll check it out after this He has two channels. He has a channel where he's still uploading now 13 hours ago, dude. I hope this guy reviews till the end of time. He's so good at it Excellent This is important Gandalf the white he transitions from Gandalf the gray into Gandalf the white he essentially dies And the spirit of whatever the hell says oh your quest is not finished. I'm going to give you a second chance Thus making it entirely unimportant if anybody else dies for the rest of these films Because you know, there is a chance they can come back to life Boromir didn't Yeah, no one no one else. He's a fucking wizard. You have to assume that the rules don't quite work the same for humans the uh Gandalf the wizards in general are angels It's not the same for everybody else if they die they die I just like the idea that he's like, yeah borrow me. I could just come right back He doesn't like yeah. Well, he coulda Boromir the white. Yeah, he coulda, but he just didn't because he's Sean Feeney. He's obligated to stay dead Didn't use the dick sex mocking and that was the big problem And that might just be the stupidest thing about it all of it. It just may very well be You know, I just stop drinking in the middle of your I don't know how to explain it. I like the way he talks. It's so funny like How he structures everything it's just you're a you're an interesting person reviewer man I can't tell you how much finned a castle That is built on the side of a mountain Twice and we do the same battle again and again Right. Well that battle was better the first time I saw it when they were defending that castle Which looks a whole shitload like that one right? Helm's deep in minister. It's looking fucking similar. We mean They're so insanely different in how they're structured Of fortress versus a city. I wonder if there is possibly a difference between them Well, everything's different the factions involve the strategies that are used the stakes. It's just all so different Apparently not it's what you show in film school to be like, yeah, here's a castle assault Here's a castle assault. This is how you do them completely differently So they stay fresh There's worse the structure What's on your lip? He's getting serious now. You guys see the lip is peeling Like it's Oh god, which looks a whole shitload like that one right this guy looks like a less manly bend stiller The structure of these stories does not suit well for a trilogy. Okay after the first movie What if we've done we've started our quest we haven't He's such a weird but like what what are you what are you up to? What is this criticism? We started the quest Is stupid the structure for trilogies can't do that I just don't know where he's gonna go with this. It's just so uh Accomplished. Oh, I don't know destroy the death star So I just want to point out that if two castle assaults are both boring because they're similar Surely attacking two death stars is going to be similarly really boring, right? That's actually pretty creepy I kind of feel like his brain must have been The three of us posted that We all grabbed the exact same point I'm seeing you know like before he as he turns the head it makes the grudge sound like everything goes He reminds me of g-man from half life. Yeah He's like a robot that just like lost power here. We're boosting people. Are you saying that he's a replicant? Can we go back like 10 15 seconds need to see how this became a thing it's so creepy Which looks a whole shitload like that one right? He's pointing To make matters worse the structure of these stories does not suit Let's see if we can see the exact moment where the charge is after the first movie. What have we've done We've started our quest. We haven't accomplished anything like. Oh, I don't know destroy the death star Dude is so terrifying Like the point he's making here is that in a new hope there's a huge battle at the end That's very monumental and important to the story and almond hen Isn't like that So it doesn't count someone in the chat if star wars hollow If star wars had been planned from the start to be a trilogy Do you really think they would have had the main big bad thing blow up and have to make a second one? Just to make the other movies work Like we'd still have Darth Vader Yeah, like they wouldn't they wouldn't have had the first movie end with blowing up the death star I don't think if they had said we're gonna make three movies. We're definitely gonna make three Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's very worth their three Lord of the Rings books. The fuck's this guy even talking about Here's the thing Three books are pretty apt for like a trilogy of movies. I think that makes sense In fairness though, if you don't destroy a death star, what the fuck's the point? Well Boromir dying and the the fellowship splintering into those technically three groups are Really really impactful on a personal level whereas the destruction of the death star isn't as personal I mean like it's not like I Like you get the Han and the luke and using the force and the explodey boom booms And it's really really good. I don't mean to undersell it, but I feel like you're just two different things Yeah, I'm to compare them would be really lame because they're just not trying to be the same thing Right Finally They try to make some kind of resolve effort by giving everybody an ending That phase out their way like oh time to roll the credits. Okay. Oh, no, we got another scene Oh, okay, we're fading man. I'm such a fan of this game Well, I guess Boromir But even then they elaborate more on him in the future and his death plays a pivotal role in the way the plot develops going forwards I thought he was doing the multiple ending meme like the Laudering's ends too many times boo Now he's talking about lurtz the coolest character the best character best character. Yeah If only we got more of lurtz to learn more about lurtz. Why was lurtz there? Who was who who did lurtz love? What did lurtz think about while he was in that pod in the ground? Yeah, what does lurtz dream about? I do want to know the answer to that question Oh, no. Oh, okay. We've got another another credit scene here. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's another ending I don't know how they can get by of this stuff and you think that Peter jacks 20 minutes out of a four and a half hour movie. Yeah, that's too long And the fellowship of the ring movie He's as he skipped to he's talking about the trilogy's ending right like he's talking about Turn of the kings and it's 20 minutes out of a four and a half hour movie I mean really it's a 20 minute ending out of a 11 and a half hour trilogy. Yeah, I would argue that Yeah, and plus it's Yeah, 20 minutes right of a dot just it's barely even a trilogy. It's almost like just one big giant movie Well, they shot it all at once and it's awesome. Yeah, like I mean if you take the credit sequences out You could cut it together into one big giant file and nobody would know the nobody would be the wiser I don't think really Filmmaker he can't control The length of his films. Okay What there are other filmmakers who have made three hour movies like Steven Spielberg James Cameron and then they were able to bounce back and make a two hour film or two and a half or What is this point? Is he trying to argue that shortness is good. Is he saying a long man bad? Is he doing a long man bad? I think so. I think he might be doing a long man bad Whatever, I mean, it's not like everything has to be three hours and I'll tell you what What is what? I'll tell you what Bobby not everything doesn't have to be it to counted the point I just get so pissed at anything that's based off a book becoming a movie because Okay But you never read the books because you can't read Oh Don't tell people he told you that in confidence. That's why he calls he If you know the material You're going to get pissed when anything you know is left out like uh-huh They left out that detail over there and I'm like no necessarily. Why are you even here? That's a question. That's a question. I'm asking myself right now. Am I here? What does that have to do with Anything if you like the book, why are you even here? If you like the book, why would you want to see the movie? You've already read the book Yeah, that's a book is like a movie you get to direct in your head I just want to I just want to point out this guy has a patreon He's got one patron giving him two dollars a month. Oh, that's nice of his mom Ha ha ha ha For a two dollar pledge you can get your name You can on a plastic At least that confirms that this is real in our netflix commentary track That's not more than two dollars So at least that confirms this is real because if it were like a parody channel It would probably have more success than this. Like this is definitely real. He he feels this way I dearly hope that that two dollars is his And he's just giving it to himself to try and promote people into thinking that people actually He sends himself the message of what to cover on death He might be he might be dumb enough to have tricked himself into giving himself money He doesn't realize that's what he is doing And then he realized that he bamboozled himself but forgot how to take it back. I don't know You know the story then you're wasting your own time watching this, right? So maybe the movie should be for the people who haven't read the book And this movie is bad. Yeah, I feel like they have to stick to it Just so that you don't get pissed off Well, I don't know how he's informed enough to make this point if he hasn't read the books He wouldn't have any real clue out of what they left out and he's suggesting that that's the reality of it But this is what they all do, you know, they can't adhere fully to the book reader's requests But simultaneously they will panda to them. You're like, what? Insightful. Yeah, I mean, what do you do with that? Nothing. Nothing And if you're going because you're a fan of the book and it's different than what you expected in a different story You're gonna get pissed off even more like I'll I'm gonna just go out and say this and you can come kill me if you want You can come kill me I mean, I don't think you're worth the gas. I was gonna say that's a lot of effort, dude I'll do it. Please give me your address. I'll come to your house right now You see the thing is it's like, I don't think that's worth it because this guy seems This guy seems like he could like blow a blood vessel after getting mildly irritated by almost anything So I think he might like accidentally kill himself by thinking too hard People think it's LB. I guess I should just say like He's got a prayer from a tragic dick sex monkey I cannot believe he just said you can come kill me if you Come kill me Wow So what did the chat said he will literally die on this hill? I'm gonna just go out and say this and you can come kill me if you don't go out. I mean, I don't give a shit I gotta add that in now. I don't give a shit. Yeah, fuck you He's this is such a character like seriously There is an argument to be made that the resident evil film series is better than the lord Wow Well, I'll I'll give you That there there is probably an argument. Yes, but whether it's good or not. It's a completely different question Is this real? Or is this just fantasy, you know I earlier I was gonna joke that this seems like the kind of guy who only has an attention span Long enough to last through the fast and the furious movies, but the resident evil movies are a pretty close second Yeah, everyone knows like, you know lord of the rings resident evil This is one of those ones where even the super subjective crowd are gonna be like, okay. No stop sit down That's enough like I know I said opinions can't be wrong, but like there's we gotta put a line somewhere We're not animals. Okay. Is this his last upload? Maybe somebody did kill him right after No, this was made back in 2012, but it's it's just as fresh It's funny because I thought he was gonna say something innocuous and we'd have to joke about how like Why would he say there's like no that was that was fair that he said like you can come and kill me for this Like yeah, that was a hot take Oh my god guys guys guys guys guys He has stand-up comedy Yeah, no, I've got one chewed up and the watch together. I'm gonna take a look god I can't wait to see how I'm excited. I'm excited too. It's gonna be great. They're very poorly received, so No, you just don't understand comedy Oh Yeah, I did because When I first saw the resident evil films I thought well, this is nothing like resident evil the game This this really blows why was it like the books from the game and then it kind of dawned on me that You don't want to use the characters from the game Because then you know what's going to happen. They do they have they have they do have characters in the game They have chris wesker and everything. Yeah, but he said you don't want to use them because you'll know what happens So it's like not necessarily why would you have to copy the story one to one if you're copying that you could have Well, I want to see a live action chris roe field bunch of boulder That's actually what they do in resident evil movies. They take the characters from the games They give them completely different plot lines. So he's just wrong Okay, did you see the one where they bring in the african executioner from the shanty town from resident evil 5 But it's like an urban environment. So there's no fucking reason for that. Yeah They're just putting it there like people remember this you've got to eff that movie's that shit. Yeah I want to do all the resident evils A fan of the games and be surprised at the same time Then of course, they later mixed in Characters from the games to the point that it is completely stupid But they don't have magic now do they? Big point so let me I'm gonna make a light suggestion Maybe fantasy isn't your genre I have a light suggestion don't sit next to the window like that where the blinds are closed and it makes that weird glow But they don't have magic now do they? What is this? I I don't know if this is parody or not, but I think that after we watch his stand up will know Yes Oh apparently Anna knows who this is Oh You are gonna come and kill me Okay, well, um, you know, we established we don't want to put that much effort Oh good lord, you can't even know I was wrong somebody did take credit for that. Oh, no The musical I was horribly horribly wrong All right, well, it's here we go. So yeah He wasn't that funny Ouch, it's not the same guy. Well, this guy's introducing right he's intro Oh Yeah, oh, I got so short So this story is called The first time a SWAT team descended upon me on a movie theater See you can tell where this is going Oh my god, this is actually More embarrassing. You're interrupting his incredible story about the SWAT team that descended upon him in the first time in the theater Shut up. This isn't getting more laughs than him so far. Not a good sign This is more embarrassing than the Arthur Fleck stand up and choker And he couldn't even speak So a few years ago I was a movie critic and I had these Tickets for advanced screening of the amazing spider-man And this is in derby small theater spider-man Not a whole lot else to do around town free tickets It's gonna be pretty crowded. So I show about an hour and a half early And I'm looking for a good seat and I find good seat in the middle and next to me are two girls and they're done Oh, no, get him out of there Hey, this would be a great time to do a case study. See if it's And to have a spider-man removed already. You know in 10 years. Uh, do they know of toby maguire? I mean like who doesn't already know spider-man's origin story. I mean you guys have to say it with me peter parker Is from the planet krypton So i'm talking to him. Hey, you know about this I gotta pause No, I was the cringe. I was I was stunned. That's why I didn't pause like Wow Listen, you are You philistine You are not an art lover. Okay. This is this is gold Yes, say it with me peter parker is from krypton See he mixed up see here the joke is that peter parker isn't from krypton. That's superman. That's a different superhero Oh, he's he's he's mixing them up Because you expect that that one would know it very well, but in truth one does not know it very well Exactly You know, that's all good and they got up left. There's like musical Nobody wants to sit behind shack, right? So This is going down Now we're into the movie Spider-man is fighting the lizard on the bridge and I have to tap on my shoulder And I hear You need to come outside now And I'm like, okay. Uh, let's see what this is about And I was kind of hopeful actually because this was actually on july 3rd 2012 this was one day before A second And I thought oh, maybe I'm not talking about that. Make it work I had a thought to myself I was like, I'm listening to make sure I follow the events and then my brain was like why though Like because I got to see how the SWAT team is involved. Yeah, we got to see how this ends brain Come on. I think I already know how this ends. Pretty sure he talked to a couple underage girls. Don't ruin it. Don't ruin it. Don't ruin it. Don't ruin it This is exciting and come on geez I'm walking over to uh, the hallway thinking, okay, this is kind of weighted I guess And that's what I was talking about The hallway was about 15 feet from the door One of the cups says this is painted more of a mother's way So, uh, there's a complaint that you're trying to abduct two young girls And I was like, you know, what an absurd situation. How does this conclude? I can't be creepy. I'm a movie critic I'm white. Uh, how am I supposed to know you're not supposed to say stuff like that? Wow Okay, like here's the thing. I know what I know a thing or two about being white You're not funny I dare say white people jokes almost. Oh, yeah, white people's jokes are great. I can do those. Those are great But I mean, yeah, like it's possibly the simplest dullest racist joke you could ever make Like, all right, there you go I'm not a movie critic now and uh, I can't go within 100 yards of school So show of hands who's really excited about dying Oh, okay. I thought there's a That was the end of the story. That was the end of the was that a just a that was like a one line of bonus at the end They're the dying one That wasn't connected. I'm not connected. Yeah, right. Well, was that just him being like, okay, that didn't work. Who wants to die? I guess me You can come and kill me if you want to And look how he said, uh, I used to be a movie critic now. He's He failed at that now. I'm a stand-up comedian I just realized the fucking name of the sef sex trafficking at movie theater like, uh, that's This is beyond cringe at this point. I feel bad for him really. Yeah, the only thing that will save him now is dick sex machina Yes, yeah, that's right. Don't knock it till you try it, right? So I want to think about how I'm going to get murdered and I kind of assume it's going to be by cyborgs from the future So back in time to take me out because I'm going to be much more important later in life Of course Primarily, I gotta wipe my hard drive with child porn Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on Oh, he's trying to be the edgy comic These are all so lame Yeah before the cyborgs kill me. I gotta get rid of my child porn. You're like, um I'm I'm gonna have to tell you buddy. That's uh, a joke didn't quite land You kind of gotta you gotta kind of see like set up that you're the edgy comic before you just randomly say that too Otherwise, yeah, because because everyone's like, oh Everyone's like, oh, are we doing edgy? Are we doing it? I guess I is he act is he Yep, I mean before it was just he talked to two girls in a movie theater and asked them a question about spider-man That doesn't really suddenly child porn. You're like, oh, okay. That's what yeah, okay. All right That was possibly the worst joke I've ever heard in my entire life Yeah, and it's clear. He's not good. He uploaded it himself. He he uploaded this. Yep Even worse Who's filming this? People Is he removing already just set up a tripod in the back? Well, I thought I saw the camera moving at the beginning of the video It's hand. I might have bumped it Yeah, he might have done that. That's true Oh, that's it. Oh, no, no, no somebody's somebody's holding the camera Pity look pity clap. I mean you gotta because they're clapping because he's leaving Wait, did he just stop on the child porn thing? Yeah I gotta delete my child porn. Okay. Bye guys. That's the big zinger But zinger I'll see y'all later. Check me out. I got my twitter at kitty didler 912 Oh, wow Buddy you gotta you gotta figure out what your strengths are in life because Your fail is not talking No Uh, so having watched this Um, you can now tell that his video was fully sincere. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now. I know why lord of the ring sucks You're right Because I was thinking maybe this is I I I assumed from the ratio five up and 30 down Uh, that there would be like, uh, I difference It would be the same I I had a suspicion that it would be the same thing just in video format I can't believe it, but Arthur flex stand up was legitimately better than that. Yeah Now you're right. I was joking at first, but Wow that is horrendous That's the worst stand up I've ever seen that's that's a thing I think I'm really easy to make laugh, right? I think that I'm Find the humor in these things and I can laugh really easily. I love stand up. I watch I watch bad stand up I don't watch any humor or anything, but I like I watch bad stand up because I I'm it's fine. This was Painful it was hard to watch. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I think I think Stephen Hawking had better stand-ups than that Right Dude, he couldn't even stand up. So I don't even I'm this I'm the same. I like watching amateur comedians. I like watching people bomb. I've seen people bomb this I've never seen anything like that though Yeah, this was like drone strike into an afghan wedding bomb Yeah, I I'm very curious about his video about why youtube sucks because of dislikes I mean, no You're not you're not curious. You think you know exactly why I'm just gonna read the transcript I'm just reading the autotranscript. That's what I'm gonna do Autotranscripts because I don't want to listen to his fucking. Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to hear it now. Yeah With the subtitle YouTube does give you the ability to ban some accounts from watching your shit, but they don't let you see who thumbs it down No, he really is talking about his brother over here, too Uh, youtube just go ahead and let's haters hate it Let's the cyberbullies hide under the cloak of total darkness They can make up a name to comment and hate on you or they can just not even bother commenting They they just thumb down your shit. So you don't even find it in search results forever Man, yeah, that that um, yeah Oh god, I'm sorry. Someone the only comment on that video Was uh, was this the only one? That comment is more funny than the stand-up congratulations Look, he couldn't hack it as a movie reviewer He couldn't quite get it as a stand-up like let's see what else is next You know what what's next in the will of this guy? I'm I'm sure it'll work out third time's a charm He got free movie tickets out of that Yeah He gave him free movie tickets and he used it to hit all under range girls No, we just asked him if they knew about spiderman was from krypton because that's that's gold Hey, you girls want to come and sling a web with me? So this this has been floating around for a while it's called in defense of bad movies from the devil's advocate Oh boy, so I'm interested we all we all here have seen movies, right? Oh, yeah, hands up hands up. There you go. Lots of you good Yeah, let's let's let's check it out Hello ladies news tailor and I No What are you? Rubber duckies on this guy got a little duck tie. How adorable To compare I would super wear that myself the just a tie Just like nothing else. So you'd be naked except for the tie. Yes I mean, we can you know we'll talk in private This guy reminds me of a dude I used to work with Oh, no, he was uh, he was 46 and hadn't had sex because he said he was waiting saving himself until after marriage He looks exactly the same Same dude, he's wanting to make this video At the last Jedi the line of star wars videos and certainly not the first of its kind either To be quite honest considering this is being filmed at the same time as that one I'm not too sure what the audience reaction is going to be But I do know that a wide variety of people have claimed that star wars episode eight was a bad movie While I disagree wholeheartedly. It's gay doctor who? What exactly is a bad movie It's one of those things that I think means something different for everyone For some it'll be a plot that doesn't make sense Others there will be issues with pacing or the acting or the CGI Whatever the case may be there isn't a hundred percent consensus. It's all subjective Because of that. No, it's not all subjective. Well Hey, listen to his argument for why god mostly opinion Maybe the movie in question isn't bad. Maybe it's just that you personally don't like it Oh in the last Jedi's example Last Jedi's great No, that's what I think anyways And that's why I can look at so-called bad films like Jurassic park three or batman and robin and still see some good within them Then that's different. That's different saying a film is bad doesn't mean that it's 100 failure on every conceivable level Also, how can you say that like there's no such thing as a bad movie and then say I can still see good and bad You know wait, but wait, so there are good and bad elements How does that work? I'm confused. There's no such thing as good and bad, you know, it's all opinion But then also you can see good in the bad Like why? Films like catwoman Or the room Movies that no matter what place at the room. The room is the best of those things. Yeah, that's the best Yeah, you need to appreciate cinema. Okay Not good films. They're the kind of movies that are practically I thought it was all subjective But here's the thing Defending the undefendable is my job at least on this channel and today I'm gonna generalize a bit and explain What is so good about bad flicks? Sweet They're bad. What is this? What's happening? Wow Your shirt's too short Someone in the chat said he's uh wearing all the clothes he owns I mean The fact that his intro is different here, but same clothes does imply like Okay, it might it might just Maybe I'm insane. What's wrong with the look of his hand. Why does it look like clay because of the green screen? Cut out. I can't get between the fingers quite right. Yeah, it's all fucky I'm with his ducky You think that I I can believe it because there's no way they would let this person into an actual courtroom Unless he was Oh, look, he's not being honest Well, the devil's advocate is trying to steal man a position. No, it just means you lie Okay I want you guys to join me as I hop aboard a little something called the wayback machine That's right. It's time to delve a little deeper into my own past It was the year 2000 And something during those marvelous personality shaping 10 Who knows High school years that we'd all love to been drink into forgetfulness During most of my english classes. You were not old enough to drink in 2000 You were a naughty man He did say 2000 and something so it could be 2017. Oh, yeah, yeah yesterday when I reached the legal age English classes classes I can look back at now and wish I paid he looks like a really shitty southpaw Yeah China Help him out. What did you do? He's like if you removed this is northpaw This is northpaw No, he looks like a normally mark after dark I feel like northpaw would look like a very manly viking this guy's like Southwest paw Mouthpaw Mouthpaw Okay, well now we have Mouthpaw Like you put his paw on his mouth I'm sorry, I'm okay. No, it's all good. It's the only last we've had in a while after that last stand-up. So Oh Good mouthpaw. I like it More attention to there were several times when book reports and oral presentations were due I do believe I've mentioned this before but I've never felt overly comfortable doing public speaking Sounds strange given what I do here, but this isn't public speaking. You're in an empty room. Yeah No one comes to your house with your weird green screen. Don't worry about that This is just me in front of one dude and his camera with words that I've written and read through at least one time first Wait, there's another dude Apparently worst of times. What was the point of that? He has helped making that. I don't know Is he doesn't need help making this the camera doesn't even move Hmm, that's weird Strange Just go into the movie Imagine being the lucky man behind that camera Holy shit, I need to show you guys this So his last video was uploaded two and a half years ago And you got it. Yeah, you got to see how much he's changed. Is he fatter? No No, no, look at him. You got to see this shit. All right Holy fuck You turn into louis ck No way that you said No No, that's the same guy. I scrolled through the rest of the video. These are the only two dudes in this video I don't think so The uh, but he just talked about the last Jedi. This is a most what three years ago compared to What happened crap? I don't think he can be these people I don't I mean, I can look at some other videos to see if maybe these are a couple friends But that was the last video he uploaded if he like sell his channel to somebody Oh my god. No, these are just every single video you look through them. It's just these two dudes But they're not this guy Wait, is he the beardy baldy? I if I had to guess it would it would be that guy, I guess but like the big head color is wrong You have to ask. Oh my god. No, I have I have definitive proof now I have to he's wearing Okay, here we go this uh It's a big straight talk. This is Okay, there is only one person in the world who would wear this tie It's him The fact that we couldn't figure out which one of those two that guy morphed into Is telling in and of its own I don't understand how this happened. I don't understand. He lost the color in his beard All of his hair. He's aged 10 years. It's been a while. Are you sure? Well, hold up. Hold up. What if he had like cancer or something? Yeah, but you're right. It is like one year. I'm looking through the feed. He has he has The the the face and the look and the get up that we're looking at and then What does he have a go find the chemotherapy treatment or something? He went chad Well chemotherapy wouldn't let him keep his beard That's true. I don't I don't know how I don't I'm trying to come up with multiple explanations as to how this happened bro Um, I what is what is the is it actually one year because I just I don't know that I believe this the seems to Trippy the same person. Maybe these are re uploads like maybe yeah, that could be it Yeah, yeah, because it's weird because there it's like it alternates between like young looking him and old looking him And the the reason why i'm convinced it's him is because like why would there be two dudes wearing the same tie No, it's literally like a young him on april 25th and old him on may 4th Maybe they I was gonna say maybe the tie is like a chattel thing. They all wear the tie All right, so right so his name is chris. So do they have like a blurb thing at the bottom that says their names on it I don't believe it Well in the comments on the old him video wait wait in the comments. It says good introduction bd We will miss chris We will miss chris Why isn't there a different color? lighting's different Why didn't chris leave chris left left and then he left them the tie And they a little something to remember me by my duck tie. Yeah I was flipping back and forth between young young him and old him And I still honestly thought he was the same guy And then it turned out no, he's a full on different guy He's called another one out of the two look you scared everyone for a moment there. Yeah, I just noticed his ears are different It's just yeah It's just strange because they got like the same facial hair and they wear the same tie. It's like He was convincing for a moment like episode of the outer limits Okay, okay I'm actually like relieved. Good thing christen to method himself like You're okay chris. Keep keep reviewing movies chris. You'll be all right Well, they the channel's been dead for two years. I don't think he's you'll be all right. You'll be all right Oh, no, how far we've gone. I feel it. I feel it in my bones Now We're the same bloody thing. What do you think identical means? Did he just say bloody same person same person Me wait, what was that about the same person go back go back 10 seconds. What just happened One of one dude and his camera with words that I've written and read through at least one time first not a crowd Worst of times were when the orals and the book reports were the same bloody thing What do you think identical means? I dent same equal person same person Me I love to read that was directly after we were discussing if he was the same person Yeah, I know it's kind of creepy. I knew that creepy Explain to a class of people who couldn't care less about something that I did in fact care about Well, that was difficult to say the least As in most things in life, there were times when I did better than others Either the material wasn't clicking as easily with me or other times where I just flat out Do anything actually a lot of times it was just the lazy part Here's the kicker they both took approximately the same amount of effort I'm not kidding the reports that were great and the reports that were just done out of necessity It still took the same amount of time. I see where he's going with this Good good movies and bad movies. They take they take a lot of effort Yeah, we already knew that I I think the the question is interesting like because there's different ways of measuring what's bad Like there's plenty of movies that are bad that I would watch it doesn't necessarily mean unwatchable But this guy does seem to be definitely going down that everything is subjective route And I don't like his his mission statement Or just saying he defending the indefensible just because it's indefensible like Hopefully you would think there's something he finds about it that's redeeming at the very least And he's not just doing it because like Yeah, he's digging up bad stuff and trying to redeem it. Yeah with the whole Simultaneously says I look for the good in the bad, but then also it's like haha. I'm gonna lie. You're like, okay I'm getting But um, the probably gets me is just like, you know, you have to appreciate The effort goes into stuff that ends up being bad. You have to appreciate that still. It's like that's usually like a given I'm afraid Yeah Takes effort to make a lot of stuff The same resources and that is my first point Bad movies take just as much time and effort as good movies to make you were very on point there You read it very well I mean, but he's still wrong because Fucking movies that go like hyper in detail. I'm thinking like It looked like alien or aliens getting the sets Um, to like meticulously be in detail. Well, I imagine the room was more Let us go to the shop. Yeah, but but moller think about how much time they spent on lord of the rings and those suck True You know, the room probably wasn't a great example because they did a lot of their own shit in that, right? Like didn't he put like loads of money into it? I don't know. There were you know what I mean There are examples where people don't give a fuck at all and they're just like, I don't know record this thing do that and To try and we gotta be This is actually on on on the viewer sometimes to try and notice how much has actually gone into a thing versus You know go into the production details and fight it out and then appreciating them according to that Mm-hmm. So I have an odd feeling that the room took a lot more emotional effort on the part of everyone who had to work with tommy Then then like save I don't know lord of the rings took For the actors You keep using the horde I don't think it means what you think it means what act in fact There are plenty of times where bad movies are actually more heartfelt and sincere than better ones That I don't want to do with that. I think I want some examples for that one because neil green So someone's like desperately trying to make a good thing then fails miserably and then some guy who casually poops out something great I guess is the comparison there, but again Doesn't really matter if we're trying to be Objective about the piece It's like it's not how much effort the person put in or how much heart the person put in But that usually shows in a lot of work. Anyway, how much heart people put in I'll give you an example Let's take a look at the phase two marvel cinematic universe movies There's a good chunk of the audience that i'm sure has seen them all probably multiple times myself included Now some of those movies were really well put together like captain america winter soldier and guardians of the galaxy Hell winter soldier is still probably my favorite flick of the mcu. Okay. Okay. I'm on board Then you had movies like thord dark world and ant man Movies that did very little with their own existence and to me Always felt more like necessities to further move along the greater plot of the universe Rather than focusing on being a good movie on its own Thor 2 and ant man didn't take risks I have trouble remembering most of Thor 2 since it really didn't do anything Yeah, most people have that problem. Most people don't even know if they've seen it. Wait, there was a Thor 2 I legitimately can't remember. Oh, that's where I left the lasagna It's kind of worth studying like people really can't remember Thor 2 Loads of people. She's like, what was that? It's like elves or something. They were fighting on top of like a Base ship or like a platform that was You know, I can't remember like bits and pieces of like the beginning of the movie But I genuinely can't remember a single thing in the last act Well, isn't phase 2 where they have that they had one of the superheroes and he could never keep his balance Um, it's called slant man That sucked Still better than the standard we watched, okay It's true and ant man You take a character whose big powers to grow big or small and then use him to remind us all about the Avengers about a thousand times That's a waste I think our first move Should be calling the Avengers No, that's actually a plus in that film as far as I'm concerned because every fucking MCU movie up to that point Pretended like nobody else existed They're about to deal with something incredibly important and that man's like maybe we should call the Avengers And this is after he's been told by hank the guy there that he fucking hates Stark What? So any size he's like, oh And you know, they don't call the Avengers. So I don't I see this as a plus for the ant man Movie not a my god stop reminding us of the event. I don't even know. What's the it's a universe. What's the problem? I That line actually made sense. Yeah, what reminds me of deadpool. I meant three. They're just hanging out in the mansion No, what else is there? Yeah In Iron Man 3 where the president is kidnapped and the the fucking Iron Man suit gets stolen and it's like whiz whiz cap whiz Oh, did anyone know? Okay, right and winter soldier shield comes crashing down Fucking fury is almost assassinated by hydra. Where the fuck is Iron Man that whole film? And like I think they casually mention him. They're like, are we sure we can trust him? It's like Why the fuck would Tony be with hydra? Like after everything this happened really? Like, oh I like winter soldier by the way, but that's still stupid But I can't call them bad movies either They exist. They serve their purpose, but they weren't bad And I would actually say they don't justify their own do anything with their own existence. What is like? What do you mean? I serve their purpose. What is this qualification? That's weird. I don't understand What is bad? Do you say that man's purpose was to introduce a man who is an ant? And he says and he acknowledges the existence of the avengers so that later He can interact with the avengers in a future film It could have really just been like a small card. They could have just held it up Hello audience just before the real movie starts We would like to inform you there is a man who dresses as an ant He can he can chain significantly inside. He dresses as an ant Thank you Thank you I just want to point out something that the chat pointed out Which is that this man is dangerously close to making the white supremacist symbol and that it's very triggering Yes. Oh boy. Also. I didn't even spot this meme dominoes We'll get your pasta wrong That's worse than being a bad movie because at the end of the day they weren't memorable What does it mean to be bad? I don't remember was memorable What does it mean to be bad? Tell me the answers sir. Then you take a look at bird demic or the room Movies that are absolute gutter trash. Have you ever tried to watch either of those movies on your own? It's a night. Yes The room is not a nightmare but No, the room is perfectly fine to get through and I watched bird demic and I was like you're trying to be bad Bird demic is genuinely difficult to get through. I had to like Bird demic seems very insincere as a bad movie like it's too bad. They they knew how bad it was like come on You know, I know I know people complain. I think there was a bird demic too and people complain Oh, well, they tried to make that into a bad movie. Well, what was the first one? Come on. Let's let's be real I think isn't the second one a little bit more like The first one might have been partially an accident. The second one's like all on purpose trying to be bad Yeah, I just think the first one was too. I mean it seems Sharknado five trying to be bad There needs to be a certain level of quality to make me suspend my disbelief That they're not just trying to be bad Like the room I'm like, yeah, no that I don't think he was trying to make a bad movie Like the first bird demic is so bad that not even a high schooler would make such a terrible film Yeah, the lack of self-awareness you would need. I just don't buy it There's absolutely no conceivable way that none of the actors just knew that that was horrible Like to be fair the actors in the room mostly probably knew it was horrible. Well, yeah, but this is like a new level of horrible Yeah, yeah, no, it's totally it's different I mentioned last week how as long as there's a reaction That's a sign you either succeeded or you succeeded at finding something that didn't work the just existing marble movies At what point does the word succeed lose value? Yeah Hmm as long as you got a reaction that isn't I fell asleep you won Unmemorable, but some of those terrible movies just stick out at you And have you seen the people who have worked on them? I did not hit her. It's not true. It's bullshit I did So again because I had to stop myself like a lot of effort actually did go into the room, right like it wasn't Wasn't a ship as a lot of thought. Yeah, uh, I don't know how much time how long it takes as well It's just that they weren't very talented. That's all I'm sorry Did not hit her. I did not Oh, hi mark guys like it was a case like there was quite a few actors in the room that were like Desperate for any kind of work to put on a resume to actually get into Hollywood and that's part of the reason why they stayed Principal photography was four months on the room Four months So that is absolutely not just shit out right there If we put together a couple thousand dollars and spent four months we could have something Way better So vain We wouldn't even have to be in the same room Like we we we could just do this just talk on discord and make a better movie in four months Six million dollars and four months I I know a bunch of actors through my uh film program that I took and a lot of them are are old like You know 40s some 50s some of them and they they're still doing like student films and they'll grab a hold of They'll do anything that they get a hold of like they'll just like send me the script. Yep I'll do it. They don't they don't even care like whether it's good or bad. They're just looking for exposure of any kind Does that actually help though or does it or does it really hurt? Well, I think you can you can have a good actor doing really bad material and someone will like see the potential there And you know potentially cast them in a good film afterwards. I think that's why I elevate the material type of thing Yeah, if they they try their best. Yeah, I mean if the writing shit I mean that's a really fucking hard thing to do But I think sometimes you can tell like man that actor or actress would be really fucking good with the right script That's just the material is awful Yep, I think a lot of people just do they just want as much exposure as they can get they think fuck it I'll do whatever Someone said tommy was given cocaine as a baby for sustenance Yeah, it explains a lot Would actually explain quite a bit. Yeah In some respects. Thank god because that dude just freaks me out But on the other hand they are so passionate about what they're doing They don't think that they're making bad movies They're putting every effort and resource in their heart and souls into creating the absolute best thing that they can Which means what why what are you saying? Hmm I don't like that. He's throwing he's already declared. There's no good or bad And then he's like they don't think they're making bad movies. It's like you saying it's possible to do that I don't understand and yeah, did they failed? Did they really? Yes, that's a definitely yes We're still able to talk about it to this day. Is that a failure? Yes What else is this a failure at the original goal put it that way Yeah, they might have worked out. Well, I mean troll too, you know, they have a fan following But like the reason it worked out is because they failed But as far as the original goal massive total failure massive total Maybe it's not that cinematic masterpiece that they were trying for but there's just some Indefinable inepible thing about truly bad movies that keep us going back to them. It's that they're funny It's not really funny. Yeah. Yeah, it's not hard It's not some kind of crazy thing that none of us can grasp one thing that I think personally a lot of people need I think everyone on the planet has that one dream, but not everyone tries to accomplish it Maybe it's a book. They want a writer. Maybe it's being an actor or an astronaut Oh this video is someone's dream that died so Oh One dream gives them hope gives them strength. It's what makes their eyes light up whenever they talk about it It's what makes these terrible flicks so memorable because deep down the people involved were putting their all into it Not just checking things off on a list of things that needed to be put into a movie It's why so many rom-coms just fall flat with me because you swap out the names and they're all pretty much identical There's that word again. It's why a long for television shows and help every form event. Yeah, I didn't think I'd say this by like Leave rom-coms alone. They have differences How could you say that so mean? Entertainment why I searched for things that try something new and different something. I haven't seen before Yes, a lot of bad movies are the cinematic equivalent of a train wreck. It just what do you mean by that though? What did they because he doesn't see he keeps talking about like different levels of I'm assuming he's gonna get him for filmmaking. Um, and then start to get like specifics He mentioned plot holes really early on and then he mentioned like some other aspects Hey What i'm gathering from this video as a whole is like, hey, there's some fun to be had in bad movies I'd be like, yeah Less we do what we do like them for that Doesn't really make them good movies though, does it? No, yeah, that's the that's the thing for sure People in the chat are calling him duck timon Duck timon Serves you on a personal level and yet you can't look away But to those involved that could very well have been the greatest achievement of their lives And finally there is one other special something about bad movies that separates them from others All right, the fan base All right All right movie cut All right then The sense of community See the room on the surface is a terrible movie and I hate to keep bringing it up But it's also probably the greatest terrible movie and because of that it's still being shown all the time There are traditions in place. I'm not even sure he knows all point. He's making anymore Yeah, I'm I'm kind of that I don't have I don't feel like I have a lot to comment on here. This is a shit video This decision-making rendering video doesn't really make any sense He's just labeled a bunch of the fun aspects of bad movies It's like you don't really defend bad movies. You just point out what we like about bad movies It's like, yeah a sense of enjoying it together for its badness But what about the ones that aren't enjoyable for their badness? I mean there's a lot the worst bad movies are the ones that You don't even want to watch because there's nothing to get from them So everyone's video the reason why the room is so funny is because it's so structurally Broken in every conceivable way that our brains We can't turn it off and just be like, oh, yeah, this makes sense The reason it's funny is because it doesn't make sense And also some of the worst bad movies are the really cynical ones that clearly nobody gave a shit about like The studio said here have some money Do a stupid movie and then you know what the audience will like put in more whatever, you know, put in explosions Blows your exclusive to the viewing experience. The movie tours all year long Sometimes followed by Q&As with the actors themselves Meaning what what have you? What is it? Oh, what's your point? I will always remember the first time I watched this movie. I was with my roommates I don't use that as an excuse to point out a pun Although I did just now I had to ask them to pause the movie about a dozen times because I literally couldn't breathe from laughter at points They were pointing things out to me that had I ever tried to watch this movie alone. I never would have noticed All right, what does that mean? Like the room apparently Meaning this review the way does that take you it's like right then there are things in this movie that I hadn't laughed at prior to Having someone show me them. You're like, okay Yeah, yeah, really that's my response so far to a lot of the things he's saying is just Okay, I just want him to take us somewhere else. He keeps presenting these things and then leaving them alone You like do something with that. Where is it going? What is it for? If we ever watch good movies together and we do all the time Then we have a good time But the bad movies Those are instances that I will cherish because we all suffered together You're not helping a point You said you suffered Oh despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary I do hope I managed to shed sunlight into the goodness you did nothing movies You did that was you done nothing because that's what we all knew about bad movies. That's like the whole appeal I somehow remember more of the last guy's video And I remember of anything that's happened. Do we just do we just watch a video without even knowing what the hell happened? I I'm a little Cant a single thing he said I think I remember more of our like trying to figure out if he like got fucked up on meth and died Oh Yes mouthpaw excellent If he's saying like bad movies have their place in life like I have no problem with that like I'm glad they're around If he's trying to say that bad movies are actually good and you're wrong Then uh, obviously that's uh, we watched this video and we don't know what he was saying Well, he started off saying that everything is subjective, but he's been talking about Like a room as an objectively bad movie. Basically. I mean I'm very confused by it. I'm really hard to follow I remember the beat of the music in the background more than I remember anything he said There was a passion that is clearly visible in every misguided effort or the memories you create while watching them Bad movies can at times be so much more spectacular than good ones That was his point I guess no one was going to disagree with that I'm going to take him his word that that is his point Thor the dark world is my favorite avengers movie because it's so much more spectacular There are some films. They're just so bad that they're more enjoyable than a good movie How about that? I bet you didn't know that good stuff. Thanks for watching 10 minutes. Put an ad in the middle There's this guy is super naturally forgettable Junkies Wait, who is it talking about Jurassic world although it could have been max landis Wait, max landis what? Jurassic world he mentioned. I'm I'm peaked spectacular than good ones There's a quote from one of the screen junkies dan murl. I think Talking about Jurassic world, although it could have been max landis He said that it is better for a movie to fail spectacularly than for it to just exist You forget things that yeah, but people will talk about it That's pretty much probably what they're getting for it'd be nice to know the context of what they were saying like Nah, never mind just exist, but you remember the truly great and the truly terrible As always don't forget to hit that subscribe. So how about hit I love that he says that as if like there you go So if ever you're reaching a middle area make sure you tank your project You're like what? This guy has more personality than he does That's true That's why he left it behind Click the link in the description below to keep the conversation going on discord We love getting to know our fans You don't have any of those much love must go in the direction of our patrons for giving us the support But why hey, he's got four times more than the last guy You guys are the real heroes here Finally Let us know in the comments below what you think That's some truly bad movies that you just keep going back to time after time Oh, it's one of those things or maybe you think tell us exactly how you feel Tell us how you feel in the comments below. We read all of our comments because we get four of them and it takes just a minute Excellent They're just a waste of time by all means let your own views clash with my own So that I may proceed to prove you wrong Oh Left youtube two years ago for now in the case of bad movies Oh my god the defense rests Oh, I'm glad this thing died He needs a fedora too. That's the that's the missing piece of the puzzle I took my fedora to bad movies In defense of arguments Wait, this guy's such a loser. He could buy a fedora, but it's actually a trilby I question how you know the difference Huh This the thumbnail it's just a guy pointing to a gap in his mouth and it says shit happens Poor guy Yeah, well that was worthless. Yeah, we did it. Uh Who what's next? Oh On this adventure who who knows though In defense of arguments. Why is that a video? In defense of argument, do you have a bad argument or something and people call them hell for it He's like well in defense of bad arguments Um Yeah, uh Jay Longbone, do you need are you do you be heading out? Yeah, my head's starting to hurt. I understand after that last video. I can't believe it What in the world could have caused that? My head's been hurting for the past two hours. Mm-hmm. Um, but you know that that's I mean I expected that coming in. That's why I tried to jump out right away. I said, yeah, we called you I think you can escape Cool um Yeah, thank uh, thank you for coming of course and um, I don't know if we'll see you again before we close out I don't even know how long rags and I have left but The trucking shall continue on As supposed to and uh, thank you. Thank you for coming as well We go for having me See Bye-bye Oh my god After that cracked video I got recommended another cracked video called how avatar will actually be remembered throughout history Oh The problem is that I kind of forgot avatar 10 years ago after I first watched The last airbender or the blue people the blue people. Oh my god Also, hello everyone. Oh, oh my god. Hello. Hello. Who is it? Oh, it's it's face chase Some fucking Hello everyone. Oh, oh, it's oh Yeah, I'm used to it. It's okay Oh It's the way of showing their appreciation for me Hi I'm capturing a footage of metal gear solid because I'm I'm actually hardcore grinding towards that uh death stranding video So anyone in chat who's looking forward to that it's uh in progress Why do you have to rip into things when people work really hard on them? That's why I just learned Just appreciate just turn your brain off. They're trying and you're shitting all over them. Let's see you make a game Yeah, you guys have no idea how grateful I am that youtube has to stop recommending this channel option because It would be better if it was just called stop one cracked video and now it's recommending me every single thing they've made What works really well is just turn your watch history off. I did that like a year ago and man youtube is so much better since then well No, I don't want to do that because sometimes I'll like Watch a video and then I'll get distracted and then my phone will just automatically like Oh, yeah, that is a pain in the ass. That's just fucking annoying The uh the watch history there so I can be like, oh there it is Yeah, no, I wish you could just have that part like resume the video on a different thing or something like a different device Whatever Yeah It kind of already has that doesn't it like if you just like at night when I turn off my computer And then I go and I try to resume the video from a mobile device or my ps4 or whatever It usually picks up right where it left off, but like maybe 30 seconds behind Like if I don't remember what so not where you left off with your watch history off to shea Ah touchy With your watch history off it does that Um, oh, I might watch history is never off. So I don't know. Yeah I assumed it was like a default feature like all the time No No, it's it's the watch history. It remembers like what you watched and where you were and It stalks you just fucking stuck keeps all of the like, oh you watched three minutes of this video six years ago Daddy Google is everywhere. I've just The watch history isn't even accurate all the time like it'll have that red line at the bottom of the thumbnail Yeah, it'll it'll show you like you watched the whole video and it's like I watched the first second of it What are you talking about youtube? Yeah, it does that a lot too for me But how is everyone good? I'm all right. Are you implying otherwise the fuck? Are you offended are you upset? Are you mad I have been the trigger triggered. Yeah, you got a shit and cum Oh You should I'm not well dick sex makina You say that like you don't understand dick sex makina. What's wrong with you? I mean I've heard the first one but you know All right, you guys ready for an incredible video that was supposed to be covered like a million years ago But never never did actually going to be incredible. Yes. This one's got high production values Listen the thumbnail the thumbnail. Let me show you this shit Okay, also molar how many fucking times are you going to change your avatar tonight? I was watching earlier when a fucking tonal d was in the call and You changed it like eight times That's very impressed. So that's not many is it is it she's changed this thumbnail more times in this one stream Than I have in every stream. I've ever been it It changes its icon more in one stream. You can tell the production values are high Because they did a little thing where the woods in the thumbnail go behind the characters in the thumbnail. That's when you know it's pristine Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right Is everybody everybody in the watch together? Yeah, you know Uh, I am No, I don't know You thought I don't get in the watch together. That's you Oh the very top or no, I just reposted of you. Thank you. That's very I don't even know I'm able to change your profile that much. I remember when I tried to do that I got stuck as Stalin for two and a half hours. Damn it. I hate when I get stuck as Stalin So what did the chat actually mention that that's beautiful I'm glad someone remember when it was stuck as Joseph Stalin Okay, it makes sense. Yeah, so I believe uh smudcast may have covered this at some point. I'm not sure This is the first time for us restoring Balance to the star wars fandom. As you guys know, it's a bit splintered after everything that happened But this this will bring us together. It should be an easy fix. Let's do it You can tell he's serious with the different font types in the four periods Yes The sans serif on the bottom Okay, are you or have you ever been a fan of star should just Hi, I am brandon and I am a star wars fan. I have been ever since I was a kid Oh, yeah I'm getting to the group. All right. We're like, hey, look all stars fans. Everything's documentary style And then and then the music will sour and then everyone's gonna get really sad and they'll be like stars is good anymore Your genesis It's not the movie's fault. It's all those people who don't like it's fault It's fucking haters And it's it's just really fun. I am currently a star wars fan when I was younger. I was a star wars fan I wish you were a barber fan That's a hell of a row with terrible facial hair guys Greatest neck beard I've ever seen look. It's not clipping that. It's guys. Come on. Please Hey, you don't maybe they like this rag. Maybe this is their preference. What do you know? Maybe that's the problem Mahler It's a beard connoisseur of myself. That was quite sickening. Yeah, you have a nice beard unlike that guy. I'm proud of my What is your beard smell like? I can yeah, what? Do I know I can't well I try to using beard oil, but Too thick for it to really do anything. Maybe I'm using the wrong oil like movie bob. He's too thick to really do anything What do you mean? We fucking doing it boy. Oh good. Yeah, he does the floating thing. What do you mean? He can still move Like a zeppelin. Yeah, they can move I don't know why he's saboteur. He rolls though No, he developed powers remember this whole law about this diabetes Uh, he can eventually move downhill really fast fell into a vat of Levitation it makes complete sense to read it Evan Monroe said by the way this guy has self-admitted to deleting negative comments in this video He admitted it on the smudcast. In fairness. He's trying to restore balance the star wars fandom In my balance all the comments have to be positive A picture to be a paladin of sorts. He's like I must destroy the negative comments. They are tearing us apart. I am I'm I'm lawful selfish A very young child since I saw the original trilogy and growing up and watching the prequels Jesus imagine seeing that every day I wanted to show someone who's like, I love the rta. I love the prequels. It was great 10 He watched the sequel films and it just cuts to him in a fucking alleyway and he's just like that It's all William Wallace died to give me freedom so I could fall in love with the last Jedi I really want someone to draw a mauler like with a switchblade in a dark alleyway approaching like a current star wars fan That's just the illustration I got in my head I need to illustrate it right now I like new star wars you can come and kill me now jokes on them vagina's a ricky It's not a virginus Been a star wars fan for as long as I can my Macintosh computer as a TLG screen shot I've got it because it's Macintosh That's how you lose a fan by the way putting TLG on his little Mac back there. Nice. That's a lot of good stuff Am I or have I ever been a fan of star wars? Yes, absolutely have been since I was Since oh god, this is a 30 minute video You can't remember then how do you know you were a fan of it? Checkmate atheists get fucked. Oh, shit He's figure yourself out. Let him let him do his thing Why are they asking it so weird? It's like are you or have you ever been a member of the communist party? Well, this is the thing I guess it's not the point to treat it like it because now it's like a statement to say you're fat of souls Oh my god, is that what it's supposed to it's supposed to be reminiscent of that is what you're saying I don't know if that's what they're going for but it's um I'm just waiting for it to turn get to the power turns do it. Yeah cuts to black and then Oh my god, this is the most pretentious thing that's a part zero Isn't this supposed to start a part one? You just don't understand art. You fucking plebe. Yeah We're like round zero for bad video. Oh Take a really big shit What do you mean we got that covered over here Have fun Oh geez I mean it goes for the real fancy creative font that he found on font face And then he goes for a trajan pro I think this might be standard ass windows font This might be the single ugliest I don't know screen I've ever seen. I don't like that the t is smaller than the eye. I don't know. We saw some pretty atrocious Meards back there. I don't know Wow like I'm keeping now it disturbs me that it's a capital t, but it's sitting underneath the eye. Okay. It gives me flumbles Keeping it forever because it's the worst piano music I like that overrated character in that show Oh god, no, no, I do not need all the last jedi haters dog piling into my comments. This is a positive space get out of here. Kylo A positive space That's promising might even call it a safe space I released a video back in january that mentioned a couple of similarities between avatar the last airbender And star wars episode eight the last jedi. Oh, they're both bad. I didn't say last jedi was good or bad I just acknowledged its existence I even said that thing about not wanting the last jedi haters to pile into the comments But what do you think they do? This is the internet my dude. Have you learned nothing? I still like the whole like hey leave me alone People do literally the opposite of anything you say If you say i'm not a furry If you say i'm not a furry people will scramble to find as many furry connections on you as possible Yeah, the um the last jedi haters like oh, don't don't do that. Don't Last thing I want is last jedi lovers in my comments. It just sounds so gay. Just something else Last time I was born last jedi Was Fight hard. It's not even worth the full word garbage I like it. I like how you did for the emoji I also referenced something rose says after she stops finn from getting himself killed getting himself killed Interesting way to phrase that That's an interesting phrasing quite possibly the stupidest part of the whole fucking movie That's how we're gonna win letting the people we love die They can't kill us if we're dead Yeah, that's the most shitty and sane quote I think I've ever heard in Yeah, I'm curious. Oh wait, they just referenced me. Why how come But people are not allowed to say this stuff Are they not allowed to say that quote is stupid and I disagree with your analysis by using it as a positive reference Are they not allowed to do that? Why do you have your comments on just so you could watch people jerk you off Apparently that's why some people use them. It's a safe space rag is he's trying to mend the fandom Safe means telling me i'm right You know how to make the comments extra safe is to not read them No, they have to be paged. They think wrong. It's the safest you can possibly get from your commenters Funny thing is that quote is exactly what the star wars fandom needs right now Oh my goodness I had suspicions, but I didn't uh the star wars fandom needs this Movie's about being something that I need it to be so shut up really don't like that Um, it's the video essay voice. It drives me nuts. Yeah, he was just starting it I was about to say earlier like oh good. He's not doing the voice We need and then he just started like doing the voice full on it's not the quote we deserve the voice full on We need to get softer. We need more emotional music piano get it in there kermit the frog here The frog you There are the people who love the last jedi and there are the people who hate correct I like how you portray the people who love it as the hero Winning the day of the people who dislike it as the wounded crazy people Leading fucking sliced in the face Look at you. You're not cases now. Are you on the right side of history? I hope so Or do you hate the last jedi? Yeah Immediately no hating the last jedi does not make you a racist Thank you so much. You are so much better than a lot of people. Thank you. Thank you for doing me this incredible favor Thank you so very much. You didn't have to tell me. I'm not racist and sexist, but most don't so appreciated Yeah There are absolutely racist sexist garbage humans that hate the last jedi Amplify by russian bots. Yeah. Yeah trump election russian bots the last jedi. So it's lx you bots The idea that russia will like get after the last jedi. Fuck that. We can't let them You can't let those pig dog westerners like a star wars movie. No, it's just Putin really didn't like it. He's like fuck this movie Don't you guys feel lucky like this this video? I thought this video was going to be about us But it's not about racist sexist garbage humans. Yay Yay, the graphics have drop shadows and whip animations. It can't be bad. It's automatically a good video Checkmate russian bots is about the signal or should I say Uh I suck a bliet That's probably cultural appropriation And a few russian bots apparently this video is not about those people or bots this video I like the idea that a bot was watching this like oh, I am not counted. That is disappointing Is about the significant amount of people who hate the film for non-sexist non-racist reasons. So it's 100% of them Okay Well, no, do you remember that video made by that really popular youtuber that said like I hate it because there's women in it and black people in it Oh moller. Yeah Okay But how is it just repeat that point I like how this dude is operating under the logic that like that is the Predominant reason why people dislike it instead of all the main reasons It's just like hey all of you the majority of you that fucking hate women and black people I'm not talking about you this time. It's just But next time People who want to force that hatred onto others force that hate you put hatred in red. This guy means fucking business Watch out in cells Force hatred onto others. What does that mean? Does that mean to like so would it would have so if I said fuck you guys would that be me forcing hatred onto you? Or is it more so where I'm like guys you need to take that over there Here's to hear your hatred. It's when you tie someone up and just show them like alex jones and stuff Oh I'm coming to the realization. This is actually a video that is directly aimed at you guys I mean I got the impression of that but Like directly So people don't like us Yes I have a feeling this is going to be the video that melts your icy hearts people anymore He's gonna he's gonna crack open the cold steel box that is ragged and I thought I love the blacks. That's not possible Oh, that's exactly what a black hater would say Shit god damn it goes back to your notes. What do I say? We'll have to fool the first their love of the film onto others this video is about that division It's also about answering two questions. What are we doing as fans? It's not divisive Call like a large section of the people who are complaining about plot points in the movie Racist sexist garbage humans. No, you don't understand. It's categorical He's saying the racist garbage humans are the racist garbage because they say racist garbage things Like it's it's unquestionable. And then you're like, oh give me an example And then someone who's like hold those hairs pretty dumb. It's like see sexist Oh I thought rose tico was really annoying character. It's like why'd you hate asian people? This is they always jump they just jump right over their Rose tico is too close to being white Oh my god. No, that is you know, I don't like my race represented that way I'm glad that that's what I came back to here We're gonna we're gonna he said he's gonna answer two questions The first is what are we owed as fans? Which is an interesting question. I'm not even sure You guys got any suggestions for that? Um, something that just respects the source material as a very bottom kind of standard I think that we're owed that I mean if the source material is what turned us into fans So I would expect that that would be respected You go low bar. Yeah, but that's a good place to start start even the ewoks Yes You respect the ewoks, okay respect I have a feeling that could turn into a big argument if I if I If I push let's just stop that. Oh if you think you we think they're dumb. You're right. Yeah, we hate walks Hey, you never know man Ewoks were actually really well made they make complete sets I liked the ewoks when I was in elementary school. I thought they were awesome Why they were the best part? I didn't care about the rest. I was like, oh, there's like people in weird clothes It's metal building in the forest. I don't really care and you're saying you don't like them now So you're a flip-flopper. I see. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, I can't make up my mind racist sexist govage flip-flopper Clinton worshiping liberal How much did Joe Biden pay you to like ewoks? Yeah, mainly mainly the reason I don't like them now is because it's pretty obvious that they're a racist depiction of black people And how do we coexist as a fandom again? This is a this is a he has transcended This doesn't this feel a tad melodramatic He sounds so sad Piano music and there's the words in red and it's like he thinks that every still in his video has to be a shitty thumbnail Why is it that like all of these video sas? They got to put the words up on the screen as they were too stupid to hear What are you saying? Yeah, and they color certain words that piss me off In the long trap Why why why why why do they all talk as though they're on the verge of tears? Because we are bringing home that sentimentality. This is important Listen to me. What do I think it'd be funny if they had do in red I I think um, sorry to interrupt But I think uh, louis lavo had one of my favorite lines where he was talking about an extra credits video And he said all these fucking videos as essays are the same. It's like I love you Please let me control you video games matter. Please let me control you Just everything about just I want to dictate the terms Remember when extra credits pissed off the entire internet with the video that no one liked A few times the one where he's like you shouldn't playing as nazis or whatever Like you you need to your video games need to tell everyone that nazi's a bad And suddenly you're a nazi you didn't want it And there you got it, baby Or you to tell me that I didn't want it Um, so the whole how do we coexist as a fandom again? I'll be like If you thought for a second that in fandom fighting over what's good and bad about the whole fucking franchise is new Thinking I want to coexist with you is so cute This video is about empathy. It's about the light in the dark. It's about restoring balance. Stop it Stop putting it on the fucking screen Yeah, seriously We know what a nice person I am I feel like you got to work hard to find videos this bad. Where do you find this shit? No, this is one of the good ones Look at the editing. Look at this. Look at that editing. Oh, yeah, I forgot right. You're right. He actually did a bad job Look, uh, look at the m. Wow Wow, you just rip it. Look at whoa luke's cape is yeah, that's not yeah, you did a bad job Wow Like this is the big moment, right? Did you think he revealed? He just said he's looking for like safe spaces and happy places and you're just running in there being like, oh, look at the cape If he cared enough to do it then I care enough to criticize it. This is how that works Man, I can feel my masculinity just tripping away Be sapped Let me find my soy. Oh pot one. We're finally a part one. All right. Nice. Just one Why is it? Why isn't the master in commander font? Also someone someone in chat said this channel is so pretentious it released a teaser for this video as a separate video Bitch our memes got trailers. Yeah Many of the truths we cling to Depend greatly on our own point of view. Really? Okay So It's pretty it's pretty insightful. Oh many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view Oh my god. Obi-Knowan Obi-Knowan Okay, I know right If someone said this to me I'd just stand there and go like yep. Yeah Like I was expecting more subjectivity shit Well, it's like the very oxygen we breathe is a part of the world as we You're like all right are a part of the world I just wish that like some what like if He like hired someone else to edit this that instead of this obi-wan and kanobi quote It was just like I hate black people I'm pretty sure that's like Yeah, I quote from I don't know David Duke like Muhammad was in You know, there's something offensive. I think we have no more baggins had the greatest wisdom Yeah, I was gonna say why isn't there a bilbo quote? What the fuck come on? I think whether or not you enjoyed the last Jedi ultimately boils down to something very simple Music's too loud. I mean a bunch of it is well. Yeah This is like it's like you're listening to like, I don't know disco thing. There's a guy in corner. I'm like All of you guys out there in a dance floor. I hope you enjoyed the last Jedi I feel like this video was just engineered to piss off every video editor in the audience Stop you got all wrong Was the experience what you wanted Jesus Christ. No, it was jet. Why did you put on the screen? I feel like star wars if I watch this at 2x I would lose nothing We can probably say show don't tell it doesn't refer to like video essay narrative That is definitely Show don't tell I put the words on screen They always speak it about Yeah, exactly like you say like you can watch it at double speed and not lose anything Why why wouldn't you just speak like a human? Evan was saying the in the call that he was in I guess With a smud cast and stuff that apparently he that's just how he speaks That sucks. That sucks. I don't think he can just send me this well, I wonder if I was just gonna say I wonder if um, okay you go someone's keeping this shit on and kind of real timish There there's already they've already got memes posted about efap 100 About the memes that we put in the discord and who's been on and whether they chose Christmas or the correct option or sorry halloween or the correct options Freudian slip. We oh we have our efap cast don't think we didn't hear that rag So I actually had some choice words about that if you care to hear them. No, so We have our cast ranking in the community ranking for the star wars movies He's got these divided by parts as well. He's got part one finished and He even has question marks for the time on part two that we're doing now I like how part three stars me. They're not sure if it'll star urex Oh at the bottom, I haven't noticed this look at the look at the at the bottom of the website, you know ascended Yeah, yeah I'm so guys I can't help but feel personally responsible for bringing him up and then him dying like within a month later Like I In fairness rags was the one who brought him up Yeah Well, so you were doing I thought Well, you're doing the the goofy voice and I said is that wilfred brimley and then rags pointed out the alive in parentheses And then that's when it kind of oh Because I thought it was rags. It's like who I thought rags said who's the guy who's alive. I thought that was I said the guy who's alive and so what I think someone guessed it Yeah, well, no, I'm pretty sure I did because that's the the meme is that he just seems to keep living which seems very sad I'm just getting from this that everyone except for me is responsible for wilfred brimley's death. Yes. Yeah We all played a part. I mean, okay, but I also tweeted at him that he was the most live man literally Like an hour Okay, it was definitely your fault I was gonna say by the way, I don't know if it's just me but is does chase's microphone sound like it's overexposed Like yeah, someone is Like as though it's like it's just listen talk for a bit and then listen to yourself on the stream You'll know what I mean. You're an audio person. No, no, no, I know what you mean My fucking mixer might be on the fritz, but I turn it down a bit. Is that better? Okay, I'll just keep it here Yeah, I think I was joking with one of my friends. I was too quiet and I just fucking boosted and I was just like, hello Hello, I just left it there, but go on chase. Give us your perspective on christmas versus halloween Okay, so there's plenty of reasons to like Uh, halloween, right, especially when you're a kid You get to go out you get free candy and candies the shit and you get to dress up as fucking mario or mega man or whatever the fuck And that's all great And christmas is equally great as a child because you get free shit usually unless you're poor and you don't have to pay for it And uh, but then when you get older halloween kind of just becomes about I guess if you have local friends you can go and hang out and and drink with them and and dress up in like Goofy perverted costumes or whatever But most of the time if you're staying at home on halloween Then you're just answering the door for kids or you stock up on candy and then no one comes and you're just disappointed for the entire evening You feel like the the kid who didn't like get asked a prom or something And then uh And then uh, you know if you go out in a costume People look at you like a fucking sex predator Yeah, so you can't do that so already that kind of strips away a lot of the fun But then as an adult it's like christmas you get to like rags was mentioning earlier It's like, you know, it's a nice time to to go and buy stuff or your loved ones Or even if you don't have much money if they're understanding and they just Appreciate your company and you like hanging out and you know, it's like and on christmas All my friends who are super busy with their jobs or their their families or whatever It's like they always have the day off on christmas and everyone's kind of doing their own thing The kids are playing with their tablets or their video games so then they can always hop on steam and it's like Hey, let's fucking play some halo or or are you gonna be the only motherfucker tonight? He agrees with me? Um Wait, wait, are you on the christmas side of coast war? I heard you saying that halloween was your favorite No, i'm christmas. I like halloween that christmas is better. Yeah, okay. We agree on something. Yeah I'm i'm christmas too. Did I say that last time? I can't remember. I thought I did because christmas is Everyone else here comes from broken homes and families I'm sorry Chases the one that's just established if you go outside and fucking cost you you look like a sex predator That's absolutely absurd. Parents take their kids They are incredibly amazing reasons Uh, it's a good perspective. Yeah, and your whole reason is like, oh, I get to see my family even though I can do that at literally the other time. Yeah, this is a weird fucking part of it all It's like family meetings. You guys have to organize that once per year Time of the year it's it's also hard to organize that thing because family's all over the country If you don't if you don't have anything better to do it's just like when my girlfriend visited for the last christmas It depends on the proximity of people's families then Mine is not that far away Why are you only making the options halloween and christmas anyway? Well, you can choose stuff like Thanksgiving if you want to be You can choose festivist like nobody no love for like the light blue and pink eggs What about life today? Yeah, life day is a good choice. I think like adorable little duckies and you're gonna say the easter is better than that fucking garbage Nobody nobody like nobody Got to be somebody who likes that. Easter is like christmas, but shitty Right, but there's got to be someone who's like, I love that little chocolate candy Jesus like Easter because he gets to come back to life and rule the universe But I don't really see if there's much of a reason to That's fine. The easter buddy scared the shit out of me as a tiny person Really why they didn't understand because it's a huge scary ass anthropomorphic rabbit What the hell was going on in your house rags? It wasn't in my house My parents were religious and everything and they had these get-togethers and there'd be the easter bunny because easter is the What kind of religious? What kind of your christian? Yeah, like like well like the like the bloody jesus on the cross type because that's the scarier part. Yeah, that's good I like the idea that people listen to this the past 10 minutes and then they look on the screen. They're like, is this the discussion header? I would say bloody jesus on a cross No art the church that I uh went to um back when I believed in that shit was he was like up there on the cross and everything and he had a loincloth on and he was all like fucking dead and he had blood coming out of his Nails and everything and I'm like, I would think that sometimes man, like this is kind of fucking more Like they stuck knives under his fingernails before they put him on like an active blood drip from the statue at all times Like it was metal. He was clawing at the wood trying to get down. Oh Yes, see for me the real man I think there was an attempt to argue it was the easter bunny for a little bit when I was younger And then I remember just being like a giant bunny. I don't I don't think I this seems too ridiculous Like and it was funny because I'd be the kind of kid that'd be like, yeah santa that that's fine But the easter bunny now. I'm not believing that one. It's really funny that you mentioned that because when I was a kid I knew from like the fucking crib that santa wasn't a real thing I just I knew that when beings can't like go down to chimney and then float back up effortlessly So I caught my mom one time because she got me like a giant gummy like crocodile thing or whatever And I just looked at her I was like eight and I just said oh, this is really cool Where did you get this and she's like, oh, I just got it from walmer and then she kind of caught herself and I pointed I was just like bitch. I fucking knew it Called the bluff on like immediately was the tooth fairy And it was because my parents would not realize that I lost teeth And then like eventually I was like I wonder if I asked them and then I did and then of course That would be when the teeth would disappear and I'd get like two dollars And I was like, uh, I think I know what's going on here. Two theories creepy The concept is too creepy. Yeah I hope I don't wake you child I collect the teeth. I put them in my jar What I do with them. It's none of your business. I imagine the tooth fairy would be like Some barbarian with like necklaces of teeth around them as they like Nawn the like rotting corpses of rogue or something like a giant orc or something Yeah Does it make sense? So anyway, uh, what was the what was the experience you wanted from a star? Wait, was the experience what you wanted from a star wars movie? That's a strange question Was the experience what you wanted from a star wars movie the experience experience I I assume that's what there's something I apparently need to discuss before we get into this The last Jedi is objectively bad. Yay We finally come around An objective badness based on quantifiable unbiased facts and science and mathematics and hold on Well, maybe not mathematics You could use scientific principles to establish like a methodology Science is best under the process and there's no reason you can't use that same kind of Ethnology to just or to assess film as long as you have criteria you stick to objectively. Yeah, sure. Why not? I know you said it and for some reason you sit here like oh, that's some stupid Hey, he's about to find his counter-argument. He's gonna destroy you. You ready? Hold on. I need to check something real quick. It's a nice Oh god, what's this? Oh, yeah. No, all of my crazy pills are still here. I haven't taken any of them. So Oh Hey, wow, have you taken your crazy build? No, I had a pizza earlier. Oh Not only did I not only did I order I order right Hey, Moriarty does have a pretty great laugh Marks is fucking great, but it's really hard to compete with this genuine joy and getting from that big yellow m Oh I feel like this is gonna be a very bad idea to look at fairy jesus fairy Oh, jeez. Holy fuck Okay, uh, hold on i'm getting this this is Kind of impressive but also kind of terrifying. I think that's kind of cool Oh, I've got a bone I could give her what's so what's the dealio the fairy takes bones back to the giant fairy Big ol tit That that's scale a man is trying to get at that tit that's what he's doing. I will say it is very very good Well, yeah, it's an actual guy I'll never forget Lord chic sent me hi. He's such a legend reminds me that thing with like the malaysian airline thing where they had We too low Something wrong Hi I can't Notice after like the first oh no, she played super straight How does she not know after holy fuck? You probably just get disconnected and read it right off the teleprompter. You're just like I just want to go home to my family Actually chinese names and she says no those can't be real names. Those sound ridiculous. She'd come out as double So they were probably just like racing to get what they thought was like exclusive info and like we got air We got air right fucking now names we got an anonymous chip from the hacker for chan anonymous chip Anonymous tip that uh anonymous chip like a like a fry Is it a laze chip? Is it a dorito wrangle? It's anonymous. Why would it tell you? Yeah That's true. I didn't think about the anonymity the anonymity of turritos. Yeah Guys demanded that shit. Okay. Look, he didn't take his crazy pills. So we're about to go on a ride So why does it feel like i'm taking crazy pills? God, I don't know really feels like i'm taking crazy pills. Damn. It's this hole Why do they need to put a text on the screen like we can hear you dude I feel like if we taught a class i'm like stop doing shit that video sas do is like lesson one day one Stop putting shit on the screen. Look just say it Jesus You're just being able to some people some people don't have ears at all. That's why he's doing Yeah, she could happen put on the auto subtitles. They'll be funny It's crazy wouldn't the subtitles be all fucked up and everything That's why they think funny art is subjective art. Oh, here we go So that would that would drive me fucking crazy to edit if I had to put text over every single fucking word I was saying so if he was here right now, I'd be like stop We didn't say art move away from that word that word just poisons the whole conversation because nobody agrees on exactly What it means to even be or create art. So Stick to other words such as craft such as filmmaking script writing. Uh, what about this is a fun one life drawing Is that something we can determine quality wise objectively or subjectively seems like we've got things to actually It's just funny. I want people to meet the art teacher. I had in foundation for life drawing He just didn't pull any punches. He was like, yeah, that's not how a human looks try again Based in red pilled When there's also the conversation about video games is art apparently They're video games are only art like while you're playing them apparently like they're not art otherwise Like that's the last official word I heard. I don't know if that's verifiable Move the art while you're watching them word You know that that's actually what like I heard from like some fucking big artsy fartsy organization They literally said well video games only count as art like while you're experiencing them But as their own that they're just like toys or pieces of media or something I could be wrong Someone like look that up for me You're wrong. What if they don't I I hope I'm wrong. It's fucking bullshit Art is abstract art is Art is abstract. That's why painting abstract. Well, I hope Abstract is like a A type like what does he mean like it's entirely? Does there I mean, I'm already annoyed. I'm like you're moving away from you getting too broad already It's hard to even know how to respond. You can't say that all art is abstract Well, it's not Concrete existence so yeah I don't know what abstract art means or abstract in general means You can't say that all art is abstract. So if it's very blatant by design It's a really shitty Modern art skull outside in parks that are very abstract to the point where I wish they were just a thought in someone's head Person can love something that another person hates well success or failure is determined on an individual basis purely by the experiences You've already said I was talking about goals and intention. I feel like we're well away from any Like what am I supposed to do with this? He's just like this dictionary now No, because he got the definition of abstract wrong It's I didn't say it was a good dictionary values of each observer A certain point of view show me any objective rule for storytelling And I can show you a hundred amazing films. Yeah, okay events have to progress You have to have events happening Um continuity. How's that? Events have to happen something Yeah, you can't there is no Like categorically you can't even have a story without continuity. Otherwise, it's not even Categorically that anymore. So Let's start there and he's saying like whatever rule you come up with I'm gonna find you a thousand examples of great things that don't do that It'll be like Now I'm Getting a lot of consistency logical internal consistency Because you will not be able to find something that is uh Logically inconsistent with the rules it sets up. That's good. Well by this guy's definition. Yes, he can because he pulled Yeah, you can find thousands apparently Well, yeah Good things or if you think that bad things are good and sure you can make up whatever stupid definition This is why the conversation goes nowhere Anyway because you established this and then he goes let me show an example of something that's great And defy is your objective rule and you go, oh, yeah, what is that? He goes the last Jedi and you like I mean, I could think of like David Lynch movies or something But if you're talking about sort of direct like straightforward narrative storytelling like star wars is It just doesn't yeah It doesn't make sense to say, oh, just throw it all out the window. Well, I mean, it's tough to build upon your work when someone tells you, like, fuck it, just throw it out there, see what happens. You're like, oh. There's like, we've said this before, but like you don't. There's never a time where someone says, I really hated that film because it made sense. You know, the half finished bullshit stories are out in high school. You never hurt yourself by making things make sense because a lot of the time that you get the whole you can't seriously repeated by Sony YouTubers and established writers, don't be sacrificing amazing emotional payoffs just because you got to get the logic right. It's like, how about we have both? Why do you always treat like a dichotomy? It's really fucking hard. And that's hard, though, and I'm not good enough to do that. So don't worry about it. Like it's crunch time. Imagine your math teacher saying that is like, yeah, the numbers don't add up. But, you know, it's satisfying for me to tell you that the answer is right. So I could see you was sweating. You were trying to think you did a good job. Yeah. As long as you feel like the numbers add up in your heart, then, you know, it's all good in your heart and your heart roll to perfection. When it comes to art, good and bad are a matter of personal opinion. No, one just develop a standard. Once you have a standard, then you can judge it based on break apart, good and bad. What are they? What do they mean? It's just like, well, it's the degree to which a standard is achieved. It's like, what's the standard? And you go further than just going because I know a lot of people like to default to well, good and bad automatically just means how much you like it. Right? It's like, well, how about we go a little further than that? Because that's obviously pretty useless. Because that's just how much you like it. Yeah, which we can all answer. How much you like something isn't really a standard? Well, yeah. I mean, you can treat it as though for yourself like you're writing your little list and you're just like, yeah, I like that a lot. I don't like that much. I like that a lot. That's like a nine on the liking scale and that's like a three on the liking. You know, and you can you can run your list like that. The problem with those lists is they'll change in a year's time like completely. You look back and back, oh, fuck. Which isn't a problem, by the way. It's just that's how that works. And it's often time you can't go much further in a lot of conversations when you have stuff like that happening. And you're just like, I mean, I like that scene. I didn't like that scene. That scene, I could watch it three times and didn't get bored. You're like, okay. Right. Yeah. Mauler, I want to ask you specifically because I'm always of the school of thought that like it's okay. It's perfectly okay to have like guilty pleasures and enjoy shitty things as long as you don't go around parading it like it's it's like this amazing piece of art, like are there any is there anything you can think of off the top of your head that it's like, I really like this, but I know that objectively, like from a writing standpoint, all this load is just not good at all. I would say the most example would be that woman. That's some of my favorite shit. And it's like the worst ever. It's actually garbage, but it's so funny and it wouldn't be the same if I wasn't watching it with friends too. Cause like, right. It's just like the guy said in defense of bad movies, which wasn't the video we watched really. It was more just why bad movies are fun to watch. Yeah, the same if I was like, no, no, don't you understand? Like our enjoyment means Batwoman is well made. It's like, no, no. The whole reason it's funny is because of how poorly made it is they copied Wikipedia pages into the big journal that Lucius Fox made. It was the worst thing ever. Okay. You need to you guys need to know more about Batwoman. Some some next level bad shit. Not too long ago. I watched this movie called Who Killed Captain Alex? Oh, it's like made in Uganda on a two string budget. Terrible effects. I was crying laughing for like almost two hours. I can't remember exactly how long it is. I was laughing pretty much the whole way through. And I love that movie. Like I love watching it. The Ugandan knuckles meme, right? Do you know the way? Uh, I don't know. Uh, why are you running? Yeah, I guess it might have been. I don't know. Film is widely considered to be good or bad. That still doesn't make it objective. That just makes it a popular opinion. Yeah, we don't use that as a standard and we never have. So I don't and oftentimes it can fuck you up too. Like in terms of understanding. Look at anything. If you take like what the popular vote is on every single movie and what the popular like negative vote is, I don't even know what you can gather statistically. You probably I guess you come out with Marvel films. Is that the where we're at now? Like the careful balance of comedy and drama while also getting a decent chunk of character in there. That seems to be like the way to go nowadays. Not that that wasn't always the way to go. I think people like comedy and drama. This thing so tightly to quote unquote plot holes. They see those quote unquote quote unquote quote. They don't really exist. Breaches like it's like big foot. Well, they call it naughty word. Like if you use that as your complaint, then you're shallow. That's like how they kind of portray it. It's like what if I changed it to breaches and continuity? Does that make it sound scarier? I don't know. Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah. No, now you're just using big words. You're big pretentious asshole. It's just funny because we've had people be like, why'd you care about plot holes instead of like the world is creating or the characters and the very actions they take. And it's like you do get the plot holes can affect all of those things. Destroy the world. Yeah. Laws that stop. Remember, stop and remember that plot holes do not exist in reality. Yeah, everything is explained, right? Like either we know the explanation or we don't. But there is one because that's the way out. There are plot holes don't exist. They exist only within fictional media. Just remember that every time. You know, this is sort of pops up like they don't match with anything in reality. So yeah, but that's how films work virtually every one of those. You're right. It's how they don't work because something broken. What is he suggesting that like the plot being straight and narrow versus wholly as fuck? It doesn't matter. Whatever. Choose whatever you want. It can be a star like I don't believe these people think this. I'm like, let me just tell me what you enjoyed about anything. And then I'll just add some plot holes in there and I'll see if you enjoy it just as much in that alternate universe because I seriously fucking doubt it. Also, I think it's kind of funny how he has a video from Eric Ha gaming and you like it. We don't with like a hundred and two hundred views each. Well, my worst years on there. Yeah, maybe it's kind of pop up. Maybe my slam onto the top is the worst one. And that never hurt anyone. Twenty nine views. Look at that one. Just ignoring your. Oh, Jesus Christ. We're doing this one. So they killed Snoke without explaining where he came from. But we never knew where the Emperor came from in episode six when he died. So why are you complaining about Snoke? It's like how many times we've done this now? You have history of three, four, five. I don't know. I lost count. It's so that I don't know how to explain this faster. Snoke connects everything from episode six to seven in both the characters and the world. He's the only thing we have to make sense of how everything turned from X to Y and you couldn't you don't. It's not necessarily a plot hole until we get the information. But until then it's just a huge contradictory. And so he dies and we're like, fuck, we didn't get anything. Like, why did why is the world this way? Because TFA fucked everything up. But a lot of us believed that in the last Jedi and future films that we get all of the padding we needed that we missed out on. That was really naive of us. Like we I've talked about this before. I think I mentioned it in TFA part three. But it's like we need to stop assuming that the future stuff will fix the past broken stuff. Instead, they just break even more. They just yeah, just assume it makes it worse. So hey, good. So I think I'm going to hop out temporarily probably for like all right hours just rest to my eyes and then come back for that last video. Yes, sure. I'll set my alarm like what do you think like two hours you'll probably be done with this three. That's cute. If I had a remote control to like a vibrator that you had in your asshole and I could get you to wake up whenever we needed to do should do it. I mean and do to and then you can come and finish the video with us about that. Okay, I'll set my alarm for two hours from now and yeah, I'll be back. All right. But before before Wolf leaves. I just wanted to tell everyone I'm glad Wolf. I'm glad you're back. I love you, man. You're fucking awesome. It's nice to have you on here again. And I just want to say the likes Wolf and things. He's a sweetheart. He's actually been like super cool to me lately and like we've just been chatting about fucking you and I'm like well, you know, he just he fucking bag chains. I love you, man. Except my love man. I'm straight. I'm sorry. Damn it. Okay. Have a good night. But worry. I'm not, but the door's still closed. All right. See you near future. Yeah, see you later. Wait for the night, man. God, Wolf's so fucking hot. You left the mic on, dude. Is that a funny joke? I pulled a very funny joke and he laughs at it. Yeah. Yeah, I figured it wasn't. It's okay. Yeah, no, I figured that would be the reaction. So yeah, that's why the Emperor and Snoke dying. So the Emperor dying without explaining what two people birthed him and what his life's journey was up till episode fucking four doesn't change anything. And I hate that they never address this. None of these fucking videos do. Like I said, Rags and I have addressed this argument a thousand times, not to say that all of these videos should be aware of the counterargument. It's just a sad fact that all these different creators didn't even look into it. Why do people have this problem? Well, it's just because Snoke died and he's a big bad. That bro's a big bad. It's just, ugh. Also, this is what about to, I just realized. I fucking hate going down the what about to the rabbit hole. Like they make you go all the way down and then you you pull you like hang on a second. Why are you making me go down this rabbit hole? They're just like, I don't know. I just wanted to see what would happen, I guess. This casino scene was horrible for the movie. It was horrible. It didn't even happen and at no point and at no overall mean it's a movie. What's that? This one's new. This one's new. So casino sucks because it doesn't matter to the film overall. It's like, I don't even know if those are necessarily the criticisms I gun forward. Casino bite. Casio can canto bite. Casino shite. And then comparatively he's got, spends three scenes inside a space whims tummy without moving the plot forward. So do you see how he had to say moving the plot forward because he couldn't say no progress was made? Because do you know what happens while we're here? Han and Leia's characters progress. Their relationship moves forward. We can't be doing it. While in canto bite, this is why I feel like there's a weird argument because I don't actually necessarily am on team canto bite like nothing is achieved because lots of weird things happen there in terms of we got the broom boy stuff. We got the fuck capitalism stuff. We got the free the free the animals, not the slaves stuff. Animals or slaves? Well, I meant the human slaves, I guess. Actual slaves? Yeah. Well, because screw them. Animals, by the way. I guess. So yeah, I don't know. This is the thing. I've got fucking 7000 criticisms to canto bite that don't necessarily involve that it it self defeats. But I mean, Finn and Rose's journey is pretty embarrassing when you think about it. It was sent to go get a code breaker. They fucked it up. And then they found a different code breaker that essentially didn't do well, it betrayed them but didn't intend to originally just sort of happened that way and they didn't get the breaker and then they went to crate, which is I don't know where they may have ended up anyway. It's a... Many people feel unfulfilled with that plotline because it just if Finn and Rose had stayed on the Radis like things would have been the same if not better. Which is... You know, but I'm not exactly on the team that if a plotline doesn't necessarily pay off in a significant way in the plot that it therefore is bad. I feel like we could probably find examples or plotlines that don't necessarily pay off or do self defeat but serve some level of narrative purpose as strange as that sounds. Right, yeah. In the second Guardians movie what's his name? Stuck on the planet pretty much the whole movie Quill, Quinn? I can't remember but like it's all that stuff with his dad right, that's the whole purpose of the movie really. One of the cores of it anyway. So the TIE fighters bomb the bridge and Leia is floating out in the... Oh shit, it's Wolf! Wolf's gone, he left! He's always been with us really. This is the interesting thing it's like I wonder if these... we're dealing with another sort of Jim Stirling style thing here where he's going to like address all of these arguments like, ah you're all hypocritical if you truly believe these blah blah blah but then simultaneously be like by the way none of this matters because it's all subjective and just be like ah fucking hell. I don't know, it's horrible. It was almost subjective but he already said that. That's what I mean though, like why are you putting this up? It can't be wrong. Also we have some guns on the desk there they uh, wait, who did that? Wait what? Oh no, no spoiler. No spoiler. I see the cheek sent me. Wait, where were we? Oh god. Oh god. 536? 536 around there. Somewhere in here? Sorry I was trying to turn the volume up. I know, that happens to me too sometimes because of the... Oh let's, we'll jump in but not about it. Yeah there we go. So the Tidefighters bomb the bridge and Leia is floating out in the vacuum of space for an extended period of time right? By all means, she should be dead even if she wasn't hit by any debris. The vacuum of space would have rendered her dead anyway. Yeah, crazy. Why do you think Wolf would be okay with this? He survives that because they decided, okay first off you probably have a better chance of surviving if you're cut in half than if you are in the vacuum of space. Yeah I mean, this is a planet he's not falling into space he's falling down some like chute. Yeah, also they just decided after the fact that he survived this. Yeah, they threw him into the Clone Wars but there's a thing he just assumes that you'll just approve of everything else in the Star Wars canon, everything else. I think it's silly that Darth Wall survives this. Yeah, I agree. I guess that's not a point. He does. We watch it happen. He falls into a chute, lands at an angle. Yeah, it seems to be that they like debris collectors or some shit. It looks like it's deliberate. And of course yeah, if you're sliding down a tube even at high speeds you'll eventually slow down. Yeah, again it's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the end so if you gradually slow down or land on a gentle incline then you're alright you can live through that. I mean, barely but you can survive that. I'm not entirely, because I think when we rewatched it I was like why is it that the fire gives out? Shouldn't it kill him? No, I think it just runs out of stuff to burn like the cloth and the... He's a skinny boy. I don't think it's on his skin long enough to make his skin catch fire and skin and stuff that has moisture in here your body has a lot of moisture in it. The cloth will catch fire and the hair will sing off but it's not on fire for long enough in sustained heat to make his skin catch fire. I'd like to point out it's still kicking it's like, um, I mean it's pretty generous considering what happens to him until he can't really kick he doesn't go any legs. And if those things you consider to be plot holes or inconsistencies really do ruin the film for you, that's fine. I also think a lot of the people bringing up those plot holes are using them to mask the underlying and totally valid reason why they didn't enjoy the film. And that's that... Well, that's not masking, that's an explanation. No, he's suggesting that like they're hiding the true reason with this false reason. Oh, what's the... And totally valid reason why they didn't enjoy the film and that's that in either of those scenarios it wasn't the experience they wanted. Yeah, we wanted something good and it should be for these reasons. I was expecting them to go the route of like, um, they they were subverting their expectations or they didn't like the women who were in charge or in studies like it's not the experience they wanted. Yeah, because I want things that are enjoyable and good. So if it's bad, it won't be what I want. Correct. Elegism. Wanted from a Star Wars film. The original Star Wars is so easy to love because it has something for everyone. Yeah, like really good Ryan. I mean... There's a lot of things I want from a Star Wars movie, but I would say compelling characters. I mean, if I wanted hits, I'm not going to get everyone to hope. You wouldn't say it has something in there for everybody. I've met a bunch of people who really don't like the original Star Wars. Yeah, it's not for everybody. Any movie that's for everybody is for no one. It's probably not going to be that great, yeah. Bam, bam. Why do I like Star Wars? I don't care, woman. I mean, that's a big question. I think the larger-than-life aspect of it is really what grabs me. The larger-than-life aspect. The larger-than-life aspect. Hmm. Get the fuck out. He's had enough. I love the adventure, and it's just a riot to watch. It makes you feel like a kid. It's magical, in a sense. I like that it's hopeful. Oh, you love these new ones. What is this fucking midi-ass piano, by the way? You sound like a better cover. It sounds so dinky and shitty. It matches the rest of the video. Yeah. A friend of mine's a pianist, and I know for a fact if he heard that, he would have fucking wanted to hunt him down and strangle him. And it does sound like penis, yes. Wait, what? I guess. You were just laughing at the funny word, pianist. Not penis. I thought that's what you thought I said. No. I'm a pianist. I know how to play the piano. Jesus Christ. I can play hot cross buns. So I'm a pianist, too. Hot cross buns. Hot dog buns. Hot dog buns. Yeah. Always a favorite. Star Wars, all the characters like Boba Fett that are underutilized in the movies can get their time to shine in the books, the outside lore, things like that. I think that it's open to basically anyone from any part of the world that they can come in and find something they can love about this universe. I like that. There's just this theme of rebellion and insistence. What is this outfit with the plaid shirt in the tie? They call it pussy slayer. I don't know if you're familiar. Yeah, try it sometime. Like a woman would kill herself before going out with me? Yeah. It's like some AVG and knockoff or something. Yeah. The worlds that's been created now you can basically find any small detail and just fall in love with it at this point because the world is so interesting. I know, right? It's the definition of culture. It's also just kind of awesome, really. For me, what I love about Star Wars is getting to feel like a kid again. Feeling like I'm actually on this adventure. Feeling that excitement and shock. You're not wrong. He's just sharing his hearts of heart of hearts and you just... Yeah, not what kids do. And it's annoying and I wish they wouldn't because I don't... What about when an adult shares their heart of hearts that they automatically are child? Well, is it someone that I could fuck later? I mean, it's up to you, really. Maybe. I might care. Are you attracted to this person in the video? Uh, no. I am not. You mean the guy with the tie? Definitely not. Not that one. That's not... Good boy. I want that to be his odd light of handle. If you don't believe me, well, have you seen my tie? He's got two lightsaber blades. The mountains of creativity. I mean... Dumbest weapon ever put on the screen. Wow. I just... I don't know what to say. All the stuff he's saying... Yeah, that sounds like something a kid would say. Well, there's not only lots of criticisms. There's a lot of criticism. There's a lot of criticism. There's a lot of criticism. There's a lot of criticism. There's a lot of criticisms to Levy, but if we've got specifics, tell me what about the characters you really love, and then he explains Luke, for example. So did that love manage to get in the way of your love for the last Jedi considering it's completely incongruent? He'd probably be like, no, he's old. I don't think they could ever do anything that wouldn't be considered by this guy to be... I just... He rationalized anything that he was getting. It would be interesting to test it out, keep fucking with the movie and replaying the universe to see if he still enjoys it. Just add one more plot hole, and another one, and another one, until he cracks, and he's like, okay, that's enough, I can't handle this. Nothing makes any sense. Help. I love the wisdom. I love being challenged by it to become better and stronger and more caring. Bro, tell me what you mean. I mean, this is some flowery stuff, man. Yeah, this is the emotional appeal part. Enjoy the ride. Think of your feelings. Think about how you feel when you feel things. Search your feelings. You know it to be true. You said it, Colonel. You said it, buddy. This is the experience I want out of a Star Wars movie. And the last Jedi... I feel like this is such a broad thing applied to Star Wars that you could kind of say it about anything, and it could still kind of apply. It's just so broad and ambiguous. Yeah, you can't question any of it. You're just like, mm-hmm. The world feels big and the characters... I learn things and there is wisdom. And you're like, yep, all right. I like the prequels too. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a sec. I love it. I feel like I could say this about mind camp, and I'd just be curious what he has to say about it. It's a book. It's an artwork. It's an artwork. Since the Empire Strikes Back, but there are a million other things to love about the Star Wars experience. Name's 17. He gave him a chance. Exactly 17. Oh, he said a million. Yeah, he said... If he only said 20, he'd have done like three or four, but he said a million, so... 17's pretty reasonable. Yeah, it is. How great of an audience surrogate Luke Skywalker was. As Mark Amill said, you need one character who relates to everyday life so that people can say, I could be him. Someone who doesn't scare or astound you. I think Luke is that character. I don't really... I don't care really about what the actors have to say necessarily. Like, it's not right because they're the actor. Also, plenty of people want it to be Han. Plenty of people want to be Vader. Absolutely. People fantasize as being things that are definitely not believable. I want to be a dragon. A dragon might fall across Leia's... Oh, no. I think Luke does astonishing things like in the movie, like at the end or in the the later movies. So I don't think his statement is really that accurate, but I kind of get what he's saying. Like, you just need an every man kind of main character that the audience can relate to. Yeah, useful in terms of... He'll be like a... The point in which all the information gets spread to, so we're just like, yeah, I'm along with Luke. We're just along for the ride together because everyone else seems to know what's going on, but we don't, do we, Luke? But then, certainly as the films progress, you'll be like, Luke? What are you doing strangling people? Luke, yeah. And that any one of the young people watching the picture can say I'm Luke. Now, imagine being one of those fans that saw themself as Luke, and then last Jedi's all hey, you know that character you've literally equated yourself with since childhood? He's dead. That's not quite what they're doing there. I just like the idea that the last Jedi just shits all over and he's about to set that up as being possibly like interpretable as a bad thing, but then you need to see the other side of the coin, which is that he's grown and he now represents something else and you're like, oh, I see. Yeah, he's a grumpy old cynic who's given up on everything he's cared about in his life that isn't oddly colored milks. That can feel like a total slap in the face. Yeah, it's fucking weird. It's always been escapist. While this film actively confronts and challenges you, do you usually root for the hot pilot whose big gambles always pay off? Yeah. You're demoted. You say all these things, but the film does not support this thematic element that you want it to. His gamble did pay off. I don't understand. He saved the fleet. Stop it. Much like Joel. Poe is right. I'm telling you man, Joel Dameron all the way from some significant lineage to make a difference or be worthy of her. Nobody ever said that was a thing. No one thought that. I'm so tired of this shit. I'm solo. You know, to be important in the Star Wars universe, you have to be a skywalker. You have to be a movie. Yeah, where it's going. Bib Fortuna was just a guy. I don't know how this guy felt about he got to be Jabba's major domo. Like, come on, it's... It's true. I just... Skywalker must have been such a bombshell. What are you suggesting? That Leia and Han just suck? Like, in the OTS? It's only Luke that matters because of his bloodline. Nobody else matters. It's like, what's Yoda then? Nah, fuck him. He comes from a long line of Yodas. I know you guys don't like the last Jedi, but I'm curious, do you think the movies holding Luke in a bad light? Do you think that was a mistake? Yes. Right, okay. When you say mistake, do you mean like they shouldn't have fucking done it? Right, because I know it wasn't done well, but the idea that it took the character Luke and kind of turned like made him put him in a very unflattering light, especially at the start where he's just kind of this hermit. He's drinking fucking whatever that stuff is, that alien milk or whatever. I kind of like what it was doing there where it's just like you had a character who had this legacy and is like famous throughout the galaxy and then it's like a never-meet-your-hero kind of thing where you find the person who everyone thought was the shit and he's like, oh, he's not so great after all. We did meet him. Just why he liked it? Because it does shit on him? I thought when I first realized that in the movie, I thought, oh, the movie could potentially do something interesting with this, right? Maybe there's going to be a big redemption arc where he's not doing so hot right now, but later on, people will think he's the shit again. Like, what's the alternative for the first introduction of Luke? Literally anything else? He's fucking awesome in cutting people's heads off. There's literally uncountable amount of things they could have done apart from this. How about he was just sitting in the chair? How about that? That's one. What about him just doing his washing? We could have been training Jedi. What about he was on a spaceship giving orders because that's just so many... There are actually countless options. Maybe when he heard that his sister was in mortal peril, he actually went to go help her. Maybe when he found out the galaxy was under the foot of the first order, which is worse than the Empire. He might have done something. This is the problem. We know him very well and to be like, hey, wouldn't it be cool if we flip him completely? It's like, oh, nice little experiment you want to do. Go and destroy your own franchise, please, Ryan. Like, I know you want to, like, whoa, I'm going to 180 everything. But if you don't want to earn it, please experiment with someone else's IP. That would be cool if you could go ahead and do that. Fair enough. This is the thing. To do what Ryan wanted to do, we need a whole other trilogy between the two we had. We need a lot of time to justify all that. To get Luke to the point where he abandons the world in his family. It's like, wow. That's impressive. That is a, just from a, just thinking tactically from how do we get people to like this movie and engage with it and fans to come back and, like, make money, even a bizarre decision. I don't know why. I'm shocked that Disney signed off on that, honestly. Yeah, you think there'd be a being counter, like, this is probably not a wise decision. Yeah, they're like, don't destroy one of the most beloved characters out of history. They let them do it. They don't understand why they didn't have somebody plot out the three movies. Yeah, that would have been a plus, wouldn't it? Yeah, Disney made a lot of weird decisions by the politicians. Don't get that one. That makes no sense why they just allowed individuals to determine everything. Someone just said, Tyler in chat. It's like going from episode one, Anakin's like, isn't it crazy that that, like, wide-eyed, you know, adventurous altruistic little boy turns out, now he's older. He's this villainous person who just executes people and tries to dominate the galaxy. I'd be like, yeah, that's a flip, but I don't like, why is it meaningful? You just, you just it's like they're two different people. Ooh. Power. We're going to challenge you on that. Do you think the good guy has to dice up the bad guy to defeat him? Anakin is the good guy. Dicing. Count Dooku the bad guy is like a plus. Yeah, Anakin was not, he was not a good person there. He did a big bad. That's the second time now that a YouTuber is like commented on that scene as if it was like a woohoo, but it's clearly like a oh shit. Oh, this was, you did a bad thing, Anakin. You did a really bad thing. The film is very aware of this too. The sound effects. Anakin even says right afterwards, he's like, oh fuck. Does it have the does it have the effect on any of you that like any video essay that uses exclusively piano covers of like geeky music or like violin covers just makes it that much more extra pretentious. I agree. I don't like the fact that I can read this video like the captions are built and they're fucking baked into the video. You just don't like change. I wish I was baked. I don't like change. We're going to challenge you on that. The last Jedi isn't that satisfying power fantasy or escapist entertainment. Yeah, that's the only two options rags power fantasy or crazy subversion. Fuck. I feel like most of these arguments boil down to like it builds character and you don't like that. You don't like being challenged. You're throwing a tantrum because it isn't a carbon copy of exactly what you want. Like I've heard that argument 30 times. Oh yeah, we hear it. It's one of those popular ones. One that oddly enough we do hear is people assuming that the only thing that Luke could do is one of two things. We get that every once in a while as well. Do these people not like watch each other's videos at all? Apparently no. I think that it's like a super unique take. I think it's because there's only so many things you can do to defend a movie like The Last Jedi. Well yeah, I mean it's no coincidence we've seen the same counter-arguments trotted out over and over again because they're the last ones you get before they're counted for good. They avoid those last pieces of infamy. I'll tell you what happens when you finally get someone to acknowledge the further counter-arguments. You get just right stammering and then go in didn't bother me though. It's just like yeah, okay, that wasn't the conversation but fine. But I liked it. The films about failing and... It did a great job. It got me. It's a magically beautiful, structurally failing. Moving past that failure I love it for that. Other people hate it for that and that's okay. Alright. And that's okay. Just oh well. Doesn't it feel like a TLJ, anotomous video? Did you like the TLJ? That is okay. So he's trying to change our correct opinion into a different correct opinion? Either you liked it or didn't like it that is totally cool. I feel like that's the preface to like some other loaded statement. It's just like if you didn't like it, or if you didn't like it that's okay and then like the next sentence is gonna be like but but Whether it's the comedy or the pacing or the character portrayals, there's a thousand valid reasons to love hate any movie, including Can they coexist though? Like, if someone says I like it because X, Y, Z and then someone says I like it because it lacks X, Y, Z So can, can, would those two be valid? Do you know what I mean? Like purporting that something is and something isn't too, too Everything is valid. It's all okay. You're never wrong. Here's a participation trophy. I feel like some views may clash and then we can have a discussion. It's like, no, everyone can feel how they feel. It's all like, okay. Oh, sorry. I'm gonna sit down. I didn't mean it. How dare you mauler? How dare? I apologized. How dare you? I'm a lady right now. You can't speak to me that way. I'm not. Shit, you're right. We don't want to hate women, fellas. Yeah. I'm gonna jump out of here, guys. I got preferred Star Wars experience. Oh, I got you. More or less valid than any other romantic. Yeah, it was good to see you. Oh, wait. Nice hearing from you, man. Someone's abandoning us. I did not hear a word you said. You sound very strange. Someone's abandoning us. Yes, I'm abandoning. Oh my god. That's okay. I hope you could. I hope you can stay awake. He sounds very tired. Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely the eyes are getting heavier, but that doesn't mean I'm defeated yet. He has enough love for his crap. Get a coffee, man. Get a coffee. What if I do all right anyway? Yeah, good talking to you guys. See you later. Man, later. See you later. What a nerd. Fucking asshole. This fucking stupid glasses. How do you how do you see things in red and blue at the same time? I don't even fucking sense. You don't. It's that easy. He's blind. I bet you it's to help read these texts on because you know how you got like some of it fades out. This lens helps a preferred Star Wars. You can't read well enough. No, I heard Star Wars experience is more or less valid than any other preferred Star Wars experience. It doesn't mean anything. No, I think that's the point of it. It's the whole bunch of nothing. It's not even an argument. It's just like you can like stuff for you don't have to. It's all fine in my book. No preference is more or less valid than any other preference. Like, what is happening? Whether you hate it or love it. That's okay. Hey, I still care about you. I can try to say he just hugs you and you're like, I don't know why we why it's okay. It's okay. You're valid. I accept you. You're valid. Yeah. I forgot what this guy's position is. Like at the beginning that he said he acknowledged that the movie was objectively bad, right? But then you said that's okay. Was that another guy? This guy's saying no such thing as objectively bad and that everybody's reasoning for disliking and liking for saying whatever. It's all down to I don't know how many times he said this already but it's all opinions, all perspective, all POV. It's all just we're all just stardust floating through the world. Big, undefinable blob and the least helpful thing an artist can get in terms of response. Can you imagine this shit given out to your friends like I need help and it'll see you and then it's like you're valid. Whatever you decide to do is okay. It's not what I am before though. It was the last video with Mouthpaw who was saying that everything, yeah. Yeah. I feel like he's just trying to butter up everyone by being like, you know, if you don't like this movie that's completely okay, just please don't fucking trash me on Twitter or please don't make angry responses to me on YouTube. Like he's really just in my nice comments section with your evil. He's trying to play it as safe as possible so that way he can fire back just like, I said it's okay if you don't like it, why are you mad at me? Stop being mad. He should give some thought into thinking whether or not this line of thinking would incentivize any filmmaker to actually make a Star Wars film that's any good. If anything's valid, right, it's just like well this is a bunch of filmmakers that a director can show up on the day and just be there for the check and be like oh, whatever, take one, yeah, that was great, moving on. And this trash... I think pushes us to the ultimate question. If I presented you Episode 9 The Rise of Skywalker and you watched it and it was Indiana Jones, would you be like okay, your experience is valid but... That's what I mean about pushing him to his limit so I'd be like dude, there must be something there's gotta be something, right? And I feel like at that breaking point you'd be like, okay, but this has no continuity whatsoever and I'd be like, aha! So, once it shares zero, it's a problem but 0.1 is okay, I guess? Hmm, assuming he does say that we package, you know and publish Star Wars Episode 9 as Indiana Jones, I wonder if you would just be like this is a really cool take I'm not sure who's who or how the story connects, but I'm enjoying this. It's subjective. It's art. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I'm gonna try and repurpose a Star Wars quote. Doesn't it really make sense? Also, try and make it my video thingy. How can you turn this on us? You just said that it's not possible to be objective about it. You can't have an objective state, it's like is that an absolute? Sounds like an absolute. Don't give me this quote. Stop it. Which means you are allowed to not like the last Jedi. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you, so kind sir. I needed your permission. Also, I was chatting, yeah, I agree with chat actually. He's like, only a Sith deals in absolutes. Alright, I'm a Sith. Someone in chat just said this guy's so wishy-washy he just did my laundry. Oh, hey, nice. Yeah, I like that one. I like that too. Damn it, you're not a woman anymore. It is 1 million percent valid to not enjoy the experience of watching the last Jedi. And I feel sincerely awful for you if that's the case. Wait, what? I need to hold up. Why does he feel awful? I missed that. To not like the last Jedi. It is 1 million percent valid to not enjoy the experience of watching the last Jedi. And I feel sincerely awful for you. Because we didn't like a Star Wars movie? I guess because he would argue like he got so much out of it and you didn't. And that's sad for you. Oh, we got a lot out of it. Notice that he's framing it to not be if you think it's bad. He keeps saying if you didn't enjoy it. In this argument, there is no possibility that you can think it's bad. It seems like he's mostly just pointing to oh, you're subjective. Yeah, but that's his thesis statement, right? He'd be like, you think it's bad but that's as far as it goes. It's not actually bad, you just feel it is. And I feel awful for you because you couldn't experience the good. Also, I really like how he had to make the text really fucking big. Please believe me when I say just how bad I feel for you. Well, and this is the thing. I'd be able to lay it out for you why it didn't work for me quote unquote. It's not... I don't sit here going like, oh man if only I could have enjoyed it. It's very clear why I didn't. I know exactly why and it's not something I would... If that changed, then something about the way I'm consuming media and my standards would have had to have altered fundamentally. So it's not necessarily an issue for me that it was as a conduit that's how it came back out of me after being consumed. It's almost inevitable with how much shit they got backwards. How much... We haven't even gone over it but the space chase itself is actually embarrassing. There's so much about it that is absolute nonsense and the film gives like, pays lip service to the idea of making sense. It's like, how come we can't catch up with them? Well, because they're smaller. Oh! That's it. It doesn't address the 17 other ways they could catch up to them. They know they're supposed to explain it that kind of makes it hurt more in a weird way. Well, yeah, because Ryan would have been like, shit, I gotta put an explanation in it. He plugs up one hole and 17 spring out of it and he's like, whatever. I'll just leave it. Next scene. What? Okay. Hold the fuck up. I need you to... I need you to go to a dictionary and I need you to look up the word perspective. Dude. Absolute. There's a lot of experiences in life. I think all of us here have probably got a decent variety of them. Dead relatives, debilitating diseases, living with autism, just stepping on a Lego. Stepping on a Lego? Pain? Suffering? Horrible emotional trauma? I want to clarify. He ends up saying For a Star Wars fan. I could hear him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's included. People are caps locking, let him finish. That's included in the fucking statement. If you're a Star Wars fan, the worst absolute... Fuck off, Jesus. I'm a Star Wars fan, but... I mean, that doesn't... Like, there are people who are... like, allergic to air and stuff like that. I don't... Like, I need you... I feel like this is real... I said this video was written by, like, a child and it sounds like a child who has no kind of perspective actually wrote this. I'm gonna play it over again, though, to make sure I don't upset everybody. I'm pretty sure he said something really stupid. It's a Jedi, and I feel sincerely awful for you if that's the case. Not loving a Star Wars film is one of the absolute worst feelings in the universe for a Star Wars fan. It sucks. Yeah, guys, that was just as stupid as we thought it was, okay? The worst feelings in the universe for a Star Wars fan. Just want to clarify. We let him finish as just as fucking stupid as we thought it was. Yeah, he said this... he said the thing he said the first time, but again... Mm-hmm. Um, wow. Okay. Um, yeah, I don't know, go outside, see the world, actually suffer hardship. He never was. It's crazy as well because he said not loving. He didn't say hating it. Just not loving. Not loving. Even liking it falls under that category. I mean, I don't know. I feel like if your attachment to media is this great, you have some kind of a mental issue. If you're not supposed to treat things this way, you know, like your attachment to fictional IPs and franchises, it shouldn't be this great that not loving it is one of the worst feelings in the universe. You know what, you guys are just bitter because you're in a black chasm of despair because you... Yeah, it feels great. There's a void in your life, guys. I know. It is a sucky, terrible feeling. I mean, for a little bit, now I laugh at it and it gives me incredible joy. He put sucky on the screen. What fucking word smithery here? Fucking sucky in a video essay. He put it on the screen. He put sucky on the screen. Why would you do that? I would describe it as that. It's sucky, terrible. It's poo poo stinky bad. Please put that on the screen. No, fuck it, we put that on the screen. It's poo poo stinky bad. Put it on the screen. Make me feel bad in my no-no zone. That said, why would you try to make anyone else feel that way too? Because I don't believe that, and I said by telling them how wrong they are for enjoying it. No, no, no. Yeah, so they're not Oh, okay, let's pause it. They're not wrong. When I say that they're wrong for enjoying it, that's a joke. Yeah, no. Just drags ground, grounding that. If there is anyone in the chat at this point who actually thinks that we feel that way, no, it's just a joke. It's just having some funsies, but communists still aren't people. I mean, we would be helpers anyway because at that point we'd be like, well, you enjoy Batman and Robin, so is that wrong that I'd have to be like, oh God, yes, it is. Yeah, no, it's not wrong because again, enjoying things and having those things be good, totally different things. That's kind of the core of eFap, I'd say. Yeah. But I think that the truth of something is more important than whether or not it's important. And I think that there's enough value in the discussion itself. Also, fuck me, I get bored if someone just rags, did you like it? And you go, yeah. And I'm like, can we talk about more than that? And then you go, yeah, I loved Holder's plan. I thought it was so great. And I'm like, oof, I didn't really like it. And it's because I thought it didn't make sense. And then rags is like, okay, now my choice is to either argue it does make sense or run the fuck away because I can't handle this shit. I just liked it because I just, and there you go. Wrong for enjoying it. Yeah. I don't like this. It's looking at this still. She just enjoy everything. I mean, can't you apply this to someone who let's say someone's a Nazi or a racist or something terrible and they enjoy being a racist, they enjoy being a Nazi, they enjoy being a communist or something like that. Then why would you want to take that away from them by telling them how wrong they are for enjoying those things? Just right ahead of the whole taking enjoyment out of the world, like why would you want to do that? Yeah, this isn't a kind of principle that you can actually operate on. This is just one of those, it's just a nonsense nothing that doesn't solve any problems or issues. This is almost like I'm trying to use your guilt as a weapon against you. Friends, let's go to Anconia style so that I can get you to just see my argument is true. Also, to add to that sort of little weird thing I was doing with the hold-up plan thing, it's like if Rags is like, no it doesn't make sense because this, this, this and I go this, this, this and he goes this, this, this and I go this, this, this and I'm like, see, it doesn't make sense also there's a helicopter in the background sorry about that, but you conclude and then Rags is like, no, you're telling me I'm wrong for enjoying it and I'm like, whoa no, I was just saying the hold-up plan doesn't make any fucking sense like why did you change it to that? It was annoying, but they do it all the time like discussing these elements means that you're trying to take feelings away from people we make memes about this I think Jay even put out a tweet saying like he's scared that Maul is going to take his feelings away it's like, oh no, he's covered like with a Hoover, a feelings Hoover I feel like I'm right I feel like you're wrong I feel like what you are enjoying is built on something that's empty and there's no standard to it and if I can convince you that you like something bad really how much of the work am I doing and how much of the work is your brain doing? like don't you want to have standards for stuff? Right, yeah, well that's it, isn't it? it's like they're distancing themselves from the idea of standard specificity things being objective everything's just this fucking foggy cloud of feelings that you can't penetrate I mean don't you, yeah don't you want, in your life I guess maybe some people don't but for me I want to know why I like the things I like and I want to know why I hate the things I hate I want to know the reasons behind things I just don't want to skip to the end point where I get my conclusion and I have no idea how I got there Hi Fringy Oh, hi Fringy Oh, hello Froggy So what's happened in the last few hours? Alright, well Fringy you came in at a good point because we're discussing a still right now on the watch together We're talking about the last Jedi as we do and the still that we're on right now is he's got text on the screen as you do He does every single frame Of course, it says why would you try to make anyone else feel that way too by telling them how wrong they are for enjoying it I don't, what does that mean? It means that you're stealing people's feelings Stop it But Right, okay, so other people aren't like capable of making you feel anything really at all other than what you decide or like what the consequences of learning the truth Like what do you mean you a slanderer? You're a slanderer You're a slanderer Like what do you mean you are stealing that feeling from them His position seems to be that if you watch the last Jedi if you didn't like it or any Star Wars movie you're secretly in this emotional pit of despair because you didn't like the movie you want to see Sorry, I'm going to read out that quote for him as well Fringy, this is from this video Okay, you ready? The absolute worst feeling for a Star Wars fan is not loving a Star Wars film It's so well You just need to sound a little more sad and you fucking nail it like you're just on the verge of depression Star Wars fans out there there is no feeling worse than not loving a Star Wars movie I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy Surviving the Holocaust, nope Pretty melodramatic Oh, that's this video This has been quite intense He treats it as though it's like the end of the world and we've got to get the Star Wars fandom back on track Alright, well I have jumped into the watch together and I'm looking at that frame now so if you want to like continue Oh god, here we go Yeah That was not planned I love that you came in on that, that's great It is about to get worse because he's going to put in a subtitle He's going to put in Yeah, but he does it for literally fucking every word of every sentence Like if it even requires like slight emphasis What was the one he did it for really? Poopy, what was the one he did it for really? What was the one? It was shiny, I don't know, this is a stupid word Fuck, I forgot what it was Suckie? Suckie, that was it He put a word on screen but he said suckie How great is that? Why? Another second and you're going to see how much worse this guy gets Alright, I'm pumped I really don't like this font I mean it's fucking Star Wars and he's using this chicken scratch pirate to the Caribbean That's no sense That P looks like an O with a lunge It looks It looks autistic and genuine You guys don't understand, autistic and genuine, you're missing That's what it is Is he going to put Yoda? Fucking piano though dude Fucking midi ass Fucking lip style girl This is one of the most We have never watched Just so that we're very clear For like a 2003 website and he's just like DMCH for this, good enough These people are fucking morons anyway They'll click any video I make Apparently Oh I thought you were going to make a point Dude, I'm agreeing Apparently People watched this No they did With the first I don't remember the first time I watched it, I was Literally too young Why is he speaking so quietly? He's a wounded animal In the forest That's clearly on purpose The Star Wars It's meant so much to me growing up Like what the fuck is this Speak up He's this He's a hobbling rabbit And you found him in the woods What is your opinion on Star Wars I'm going to tell you You just need to sit down Always a star war I don't remember the first time I watched it, I was It sounds like he's on the verge of tears Everyone in chat has been saying that Everyone in chat has been pointing that Who's this fucker that sounds like he's about to cry But this is Rather common in a lot of these Style of videos The voice Isn't TFA part one Where I said fragile I can't remember how I described it And I showed a clip of someone crying when I said it That's how they do it I think you said Bring in that existential weariness Or something like that I'm fully prepared to Say some really dramatic pauses As well Do you think anyone watched this And they were actually moved to tears by it Like literal fucking tears There are people this works on This is the fast food The video essays It's funny right Because it's like that But it's almost masquerading as though it's not So what's a step up from fast food But still not actually a restaurant Like um Fuck I guess I would say It's like Second tier Fast food So you have two tiers of fast food You have the McDonald's at the bottom And you move up to the nice things Like a Chick-fil-A Where it's fast food but it's not bad I guess it's more like the idea That it's almost masquerading as like An actual restaurant If you know what I mean We got a few of those here Like an Applebee's We don't have those here That's the problem All we have is McDonald's KFC and Hungry Jacks Not He doesn't really seem to know what his position is Because on the one hand he's arguing for like a Balance which would imply like The haters have their place The people who like it have their place But then he's saying that the people who didn't Like it shouldn't engage in a dialogue With the people who did Yeah there's a lot of interesting contradictions Like one of the common ones being People say well no the balance Means that there's good and bad in the Star Wars Universe You know that's not how it works Like the good guys are the balance The balance is the light People seem to forget that Every time Red Rooster somebody mentioned How many Red Roosters are there left in Australia Or at this point like 10 I don't know how long Did you build a fence for them There we go Good Young to great memories It didn't become an obsession Until I sat down in a theater At 7 years old It is funny if you strip away all of the manipulation It gets funny that's just how it works Yeah no I can't take any of this Shit seriously but he You can tell it's very fucking Meaningful like what he's trying to convey But it's just It's to the point of comedy Yeah this is one of the most pretentious Videos we've ever watched It is I think so It could be number one for Pretentious I'm not sure Maybe Insa This part was alright This part of the movie was alright Yeah I didn't mind that This part was pretty cool We had to sit there a lot of bullshit to get to it Yeah that's for sure I was a Jedi What? You were a Jedi What are you talking about What are you saying So when he saw the pod race he was like Oh my god I'm a Jedi That's an interesting take That when you saw cars racing Like future hover cars you were like Man I feel like the lightsaber wielding people I have barely seen yet in this film What a weird Feels like it's backwards What we know is this is made up When you were 7 years old you didn't know What a Jedi was Probably by this point you didn't Okay He didn't say the word though Accounts You've been here for 30 seconds You're not allowed to be as frustrated as we are The thing is I'm just like trying to fix This isn't Fringy's first episode Yeah Fringy's been through a lot Yeah Fringy's been through a lot These are in blood This is a picture of Fringy Picture of Fringy with a thousand yard stare Yeah whatever I see these like Pretty telltale signs Feels like those Vietnam flashbacks I'm I'm running out of words I mean just to clarify You've all seen this shit before right Like you've just been around YouTube I'm honest Fringy Like this is kind of This video is filled with hallmarks It's all of it man You can just take pictures And be like here's YouTube A little museum Almost YouTube At this point in the video He should put in footage of himself Like Star Wars kid in his garage Like a toy lightsaber knocking bottles Off-tables What was that Star Wars video From like 2006 The guy Damn that's a long time ago I feel like That would be more emotionally compelling If he was just knocking shit over in his garage With a toy lightsaber I buy that this dude is a hardcore Original fan That's a true fan right there Since that moment My life has been Star Wars Star Wars birthday parties I think you're getting what you asked for What is the point of this You're actually getting exactly what you asked for I just like the idea that we're like We're not questioning your Star Wars Um Move on I believe you Yeah T-shirts, cups, notebooks, lightsabers Every last one of those F***ing pop cans Oh my god all the Lego sets I had a $300 sandcrawler set That's not even... Here's the thing I don't care Oh yeah I don't care Here's the thing I f***ing hate Star Wars Come on Vito Hello Hey we're watching a video essay On Star Wars That's like your favorite thing right I love that last Jedi movie Is he talking about how it inspired him to be a Jedi He's talking about Well Just Balancing the Star Wars fandom Restoring balance That movie definitely did that Well he's gonna do it He's gonna He's gonna do it single-handedly He always wants to do a franchise Watched by millions What he figured out Was that people need to know That when they hate and like It's really just down to them And they shouldn't be trying to make other people hate and like Do you think you'll have a section on that And stop trying to make other people love the film Okay it's toxic Do you think you'll have that section cause I don't Well I mean this That's the double standard right If you think something's awesome That's cool but if you think it sucks Your opinionated you should shut up You're trying to deprive joy from the world Isn't that basically just saying Criticism shouldn't exist You should never try to change anyone's opinion on anything I think this is the whole idea of a lot of people Will hold the perspective that If you have anything that's negative Then you shouldn't say it but if it's positive That's cool and it doesn't need to be Criticized or judged skeptically at all It's really frustrating It's um Everyone's quick to talk about how Beautiful a thing is How great a thing is, how well-made a thing is The second you do the other one they're like Whoa now you can keep that to yourself But isn't the point of Celebrating the good and condemning the bad To ultimately progress Well I mean if we don't get to Talk about it All overall good and bad Then what's the point in having a conversation If I know that you're just gonna say it's good Because there's nothing else that's allowed Well I think that We got two different types of people in the conversation at the same time Who were under different pretenses The ones who were saying yes that is well made And then they refused to say that things are badly made Their only goal the whole time was to make people feel good about stuff Which is like okay But then there were other people in the conversation at the time Like oh that's what we're doing I was actually concerned about like I didn't like the house with the One wall I thought that was a bit No alright Yeah we can you know and it's like I do like the idea that Especially when it's a series that Has a continuity and the things that come afterwards Do affect the things that come before it You know it's almost like you've got this really nice house And you're standing in it and you say This is a cool house and someone comes in with a sledgehammer And just busts a hole in the wall Naturally you're a little bit pissed off That there's a hole in your wall And it's like you know you're going to take the good And the bad alright jeez You got a nice cup holder A horizontal cup holder it's the same thing Plenty of easy air flow There's lots of good things to like here You're just being a bigot Oh you're right so we were In this video if you're in the thing He's talking about how he used to collect Lego sets About Star Wars because That's important to whatever points come in Yeah One of those f***ing pop cans Oh my god all the Lego sets I had a $300 sand crawler That's not even cool it's just a sand crawler And I bought Well it was cool then you bought one Leave one of you alone He's allowed to find the sand crawler cool I'm defending young kids I just love when something is scripted and the person is trying to sound so enthusiastic And like organic and he just threw in the Like he's actually having a real moment Yeah that wasn't in the script It's like oh I got another year that says to remember Yeah let me go totally out the cup And tell you just let me just spaz out just completely Off script it's so real so organic You guys It's a weird thing to say I think the sand crawler is cool What's not cool about sand crawlers I think they're right Slow and ugly Yeah that's cool I like that As a fantasy junk traders As a fantasy thing Y'all are there cool Yeah they got a giant moving sand crawler Full of half Constructed droids It adds a lot to that universe I like it They go vaporized by Mando Yeah yeah For 300 dollars I even spent 100 bucks On an out of print paperback Book about the making of empire strikes That's a weird financial decision That's a weird Now he's trying to brag Now he's just like look at all the money I had As a kid fuck you Totally I was going to say like how does he have the amazon record If he was born as a kid and I was like oh god it wasn't like 2 years ago Was it when he was a kid Sounds like he's currently a kid No I'm guessing he just got this He does sound it's not that he's young He's fragile rags that's important Now he's immature Didn't he say when he watched He said he watched Phantom Menace when he was 7 That means he's like at least in his mid 20s He's a wounded woodland creature And you keep treating him like he's some kind of adult Stop it I really wish at the outset of these videos People would establish what age they were When the creepers came out I am full teed You're like oh about about Yeah I can go oh I know what your opinion is And it's probably very bad But yeah I'm turning into Ben Shapiro Right now where I'm just like ah fuck kids You know Can you change your avatar to Ben Shapiro for me No You can change your avatar to Ben Shapiro If you want to No I'm Smash Mouth right now I like Smash Mouth I would never ask you to change your Profile from Smash Mouth That's the correct response yes Biggest influence Star Wars had on my life Came from those making of Documentaries on the prequel DVDs They showed me that filmmaking was a Thing people did They made me realize that I could create something That affects other people as much as Star Wars has affected me This channel would not exist Without those documentaries They're what made me want to So there to blame Go back in time Change it So that section was Why I like making stuff I don't get it Documentary to understand that movies are made by people He was a young man He was a young woodland creature I just picked him off the trees There was a film orchard somewhere Yeah Have you guys seen that feature length Documentary making of the Phantom Menace It's fucking hilarious dude What do you have us like clips They're always funny You know the red letter media Plinkit reviews The behind the scenes clips One feature length The one where he's just like you know it all rhymes Yeah exactly There's so many cringy moments Where you're watching George Lucas in a room full of people Like they're all like Giving each other nervous looks It's just like okay I guess we're doing that George is completely oblivious to it There's so much of that And like so dense Yeah What was that part Where I think they watched the film Like they had the first cut And George Lucas is like Oh I might have gone a bit too far Yeah It's from that movie as well I will say though What a terrible idea to use People in chatter People in chatter quoting I've made a horrible mistake Yeah People in chatter quoting Jar Jar is the key to all of this What I will say is We go to Jar Jar working Like he has a key shaped head Rather than saying Oh my god why would you release that It's so embarrassing it's like god damn it I wish we got more of those kinds of things Imagine the rise of Skywalker initial screenings They must have been like fuck dude Yeah I actually really like the behind the scenes stuff Where they're honest The most stark This is on my mind because when I'm talking to Wolf About like fucking Halo You watch the Halo 2 and 3 behind the scenes stuff They're talking about like development They're talking about the decisions they make And how they make them And then you compare it to 343 Where they just like declare the things That they've chosen to do without explaining Why or anything and it's like night and day I really like the behind the scenes stuff Where there's actual discussion about The things that didn't work We turned up the auto aim So you don't even have to fucking even look at it We decided to put it on the main character People love Yeah This is a total tangent If you guys weren't like Halo Infinite Apparently the development's not going great Oh really I heard that What's the newest The main thing being that apparently A lot of it's being outsourced to contractors And also Oh thank god 343 can't ruin it Yo we're touched a bullet there Apparently the real interesting part Is that apparently the upper echelon 343 are more concerned with the Halo show Than Halo Infinite I don't understand that There's a Halo TV show coming Oh I had no idea I thought that was never happening But apparently they're spending a lot of time working on that Video game That they should be focusing on Oh my god It's not even coming out at the launch of the new Xbox Like who the fuck is going to get that Well It would have worked on it I know I sound like a super elitist asshole Saying that but it's kind of true You've had plenty of time Well five years It's been five years Like this is a long time There's not any reason to build on a Halo Infinite Five years Well Halo 5 came out in 2015 But I mean I feel like Halo at this point Is like it really is a shell of its form itself I think Halo 4 People were willing to give it Cut it some slack but Halo 5 was like four hours long And I didn't even get it It's just like I don't care It's just terrible It was TLJ before TLJ Going back to the documentaries For a moment I agree The ones about Bungie Especially the first one were way more fascinating Than 343 And 343 was founded like Halo's popularity really I think And so they had a big group of people And a bunch of money And I've heard some weird things about that About how Frank O'Connor was only hiring people Specifically who hated Halo Because he wanted to mix up the development Like I thought that was a really bad idea Well he's like Neil Druckmann in a way Where the stuff that people love Is the thing that you really don't want to make And now you have the power to make what you want to make It's like I think of Ryan Johnson He probably hated Star Wars Like let's whip it up Yeah I think of Halo that's just really like fat Because When you watched like especially Halo 4 People should have probably picked up on that Early there were a lot of things that were just said Like I think there was a quote Where they said Basically everything is completely Unrecognizable but it still feels like Halo It's like how can you say these things Like these oxymorons that It didn't feel like Halo No it didn't Which isn't necessarily bad It's just it wasn't Good it wasn't better It wasn't even a side step It wasn't different It's not like we're going from Battlefield 4 To Battlefield 1 where you're like this isn't as good But it's still different enough to be interesting And I like it overall and I can stick with this It was just worse Team Repository reckons those leaks have been debunked By the way I'm assuming it's in reference to Which ones? The newest things that are coming out I don't know I remember watching a video about Two or three weeks ago where I think it was ReviewTechUSA was looking at Oh shit I haven't heard that name in ages Yeah There was those company Review websites where like employees Can talk about their problems A lot of the employees who were giving negative reviews Were talking about the massive amount of contract Work And the Mismanagement was the big criticism And it all makes sense to me Just reading it I could be wrong But yeah we'll see I suppose the proof shall be In the pudding Yeah I guess we'll go back to make stuff We just learned the law On how he began to make stuff So how about that Also I figured I would give him the Out but Mori already posted in chat That he's getting super tired Yeah I'm gonna hop out of here I'm fading and I've had a blast Oh we're very happy to have had you So thank you for popping on I'm always happy to come I enjoy hanging out with you guys A lot of people off the report That coming is a fun experience That's good stuff I've enjoyed the five minutes we've spent together Yeah Well you know I mean It could have been You know four minutes That would have been worse I'll miss you buddy There you go Alright guys have a wonderful evening Have a good night What do you mean it's 10 am for me now I'm in my late morning Have a wonderful morning then Thank you so much And goodnight Bye bye Not every time Every time Not every time most times I would never do it to you Fringy Because I love you I'm confident I was about to say how would you know Yeah these aren't recorded or anything Nope There's a lot of random comments Just coming up from these different accounts So the old bots like who are these people It's really weird because this is offline Definitely 100% About Star Wars Other than Star Wars Was the Faginity I have had the Faginity The Lan The Lan Seriously the worst font you could choose In Venice though it does it It's horrible Originally I thought that was the tandem Looks like an upside down L With like a little line sticking out Well that's because you don't understand This is proper writing Okay Proper Proper Countless incredible interactions With the fan film community The congoers, the cosplayers, the R2D2 Congoers? Like people who do congos Cosplayers I wanna You'd think right With all things Having equal and opposites and stuff The idea of being like Being in a collective that all enjoy a piece of content We all get to discuss it, that's really cool So theoretically Is there enjoyment to be found in all Collectively discussing and ripping apart a thing Like a collective shared disdain And I was like well Game of Thrones season 8 Obviously The Last of Us 2 Recently like TLJ Yes actually What about like the room Those ones What I'm trying to specify is like The meme creation From the Game of Thrones and The Last of Us 2 Subreddits Is like fueled by a passionate hatred And they are hilarious memes Like and everyone gets to sort of If there was a con for this shit Like everyone turns up and you Basically cosplayers like Fucking the writers or something Like as the meme is like look at me And everyone's just like oh what episode did you hate the most Like oh it's gotta be this one Which character arc do you think was damaged I just love the idea that everyone's having fun And it's all a card based around how shit the product is Yeah I wanna go to a convention where half the people are dressed as Holdo and the other half are Po And all the Holdo cosplayers Just lecture the Po cosplayers To keep doing fucking annoying that would be I feel like I feel like what would be really cool It's like if you had a minigame that was like Bowling but you're bowling with the Radis and the pins Or all of the plate Holdo blastery So people chat like isn't that what EFAP is It's like hmm Hmm It's a little collective Everyone hangs out and talks about Which fucking IP hurt them the most Has been destroyed today Yeah it is eventually gonna be a Today sort of thing we've had too many at this point It's just Is the Star Wars the IP that It's damaging mattered the most to you Cause I know you're also a transistor Terminator fan That's a really Genuinely great question It's really hard to gauge my emotional reaction But it might be Terminator High scoring Star Wars And specifically the Luke Skywalker, John Connor And um Danny Daenerys Jamie It's always gonna be when those Characters come in here when they destroy Will Building It's always gonna be when the characters Fundamentally betray their portraits It really gets to me Funnily enough I say that When of course John Connor Wasn't assassinated Like his character wasn't assassinated He was just literally assassinated Literally yeah But like that really pissed me off Watching him get killed I was like oof And Genesis is like a little bad guy And then in Dark Fate they're like Just kill him I still have not been able to Monster up the courage to watch Dark Fate It's just too much Dude in the cinema when they play that scene Cause I had already heard about the leak And I think that there was a video Just seeing it I was just like I did have to watch that clip On YouTube and I was like just Actually upset It's hurt And When like dealing with Backlash didn't the director say like Yeah well Terminator was never about John Connor it's about Sarah It was about John Connor How about it's about both of them I know that director fought with James Cameron a lot So I don't know which of them came up with that terrible idea Well yeah but James Cameron Was like hey Genesis man This is like the real sequel to Terminator 2 I mean he said that So I'm not sure how much it was I still remember the stupid promotional video Cause it almost got me Into the idea that this will be a good one It's like a trailer and it shows The recreation of Terminator 1 When Arnie first comes in And James Cameron's there and he's like You know I'm seeing these things and I recognize them It's just amazing And I was just like this is going to be Like a really respected thing Like it's going to take care of the IP And the Genesis just takes a huge Shit all of it They delete them You are a relic from a deleted timeline It's amazing Someone in chat said the worst part Was that it was by a Terminator from a timeline They already deleted just so insulting Yeah well the T-800 Apparently just turned He was like one of the few that got through after Skynet Was defeated he was just like I guess I killed John Connor And of course as we all know her Sarah Connor just chilling on a beach With John And then he just walks up to her and kills her And she's like oh damn it You couldn't have done it in a more fucking lame way And it just comes across as like Yeah fuck John Connor we want to do someone else Like okay well Yeah he's dead now we can move on to other things Literally the exact same movie But now it's a girl and it's not Skynet it's Legion It's the same thing Skynet is so much cooler Yeah It sounds so like try hard Legion Yeah I would love to see a Terminator comedy Where it's just John Connor dealing with the fact That they already solved the future And now he's just a shlubby loser He's like you know in a different timeline I was the leader of the human race And I was like alright man I don't know who he was joking before But it was like the Terminator just keeps showing up In awkward places Like go out on his prom night sort of thing And it's just like oh there he is again You're like Sarah's there with a minigun We'll be fine I like we went on this tangent From him establishing that it's nice That fandoms like to celebrate things together We're just like yeah But like everything sucks You're like hey guys let's have another funeral Over all the things that we used to Like you could have Cods around that You lay all the seasons of Game of Thrones In a coffin Lower it Someone in the chat Brought up that the director And James Cameron were at odds With each other during production And I'm just like how do you not Agree to be on the same page Before you get to this point Why are we on the set Of the movie and we're at odds We should have fucking agreed beforehand Yeah it's like Here's the script we agree This is what we're gonna do Dude imagine being an adult with the guy Who created the first two Yeah That's like every Hollywood project though It's like Zack Snyder starts making Justice League And they're like yeah this is terrible We need to change this What do you call it Suicide Squad I think what happens is the director starts Making the Terminator movie and James Cameron is like He's like let's change everything What was Rex help me out What was the context for Silence Kami I forgot Oh that was Jim Sterling And uh wasn't it Oh when he was like People of countering him Kami logic I like my dragon flag So I was like fucking silence communist That was a very flattering image For uh Jim by the way Wonderful Is that what communists dress like Yes That's what this one dresses like All pats and monocle Yeah And then sunglasses again That seems kind of like a capitalist caricature Yeah I was watching When you guys started and every time Jim Sterling came on With that Aristocrat character I was cringing myself into a grave But it's so funny isn't it so funny though It's hilarious And the comments he was grabbing To represent was so like Man Look how crazy these elitist are I can't even connect the dots On like what is the connection there That the people making the comments Are acting like There is no connection He just doesn't like Put on a costume for some reason It makes stupid noises with his mouth He certainly showed them That's what I got to say about that The 501st Legion A group of stormtrooper cosplayers That have raised hundreds Of thousands of dollars in charitable events The fandom was always This force for Goose Oh Mickey Now we're seeing the narrative Force for Goose What does it mean to be a force for bad I wonder I'm just picturing like I said Very calm there's just a corner of the auditorium With all the toxic Fans hang out Smoking cigarettes Fuck this movie You walk over there like hey guys Do you want to hang out Which film do you hate the most Is it TLJ I hope so I just want some coffee My god Coffee yeah Yeah exactly Are you guys going to actually watch this movie You're just going to sit here and drink coffee Just like JJ Abrams Or Kathleen Kennedy or something Yeah Being extremely antisocial Growing up Star Wars was my way Of making immediate friends Whether it was at school Or conventions or comics And while we might have disagreed On prequels or Ewoks We could always agree on one That means that someone in your friends group Like the Ewoks it is We established it The homest Crispy Guy from heros why is that your image right now Cuz it bears a vague resemblance To me and I'm just trying to It's no I've been a and am just trying to like Cycle between anything that could Perceivably look like my avatar You say no that's just Character Name, right that is your name name No I don't know the actor's name This knows character name Or conventions or comic shops have disagreed on the prequels or Ewoks, we could always just find no music. We may have disagreed on Ewoks, but ultimately, we made it through. We may have disagreed on Ewoks. I like to imagine he goes to these conventions and there's heated Ewok debates every day. Topic of contention. One guy dresses up like Ewok and everyone starts freaking out and screaming. You know what? I thought they were fun, okay? Said it. I like them. Oh shit, we got another one. Oh my god. Oh, it's relevant too to Pringled. Alright. Oh, we got another. Did you watch the recent red letter media where he points out how the stars broke the prime directive by not informing the Ewoks that C-3PO is not actually a god? Well, they never did that. It's like, so now they leave and like hundreds of years later, the Ewoks are still worshiping this golden pan who walk among them. Meanwhile, in Australia. No, no, no, no. No, Australia. This is great. I love that. The turkey. Yeah, it's really good. Take that cloud boy. You guys would. I was only like a few hours ago. This is great. Awesome. Yeah, it's not like rushed or anything. They actually like took their time to do like shating everything, especially a Marl. Once you jumped out and the memes discussion started to die down a bit. Tonald had like full on. We talked a lot about like the hardships of YouTubing and it was a it was great. I fully recommend anyone who hasn't didn't even know that conversation exists. Check it out. It was some good shit. He was a great guest. I say that. I listen to that. Yeah, I thought that was terrific. And he was talking about how like he's he felt like he wasn't making content that was like satisfying or fulfilling whatsoever, but matched an algorithm and that these days he's putting his heart in there and he's enjoying your waybush. Oh my God. This is. This is good shit. Like some soul searching shit. Yeah. Yeah. But we still got memes out of it. Sorry. Carry on. What was the Ewok argument? He's agree on one thing. Star Wars Empire Strikes Back is easily one of my favorite movies of all time. The best Star Wars movie hands down Boba Fett best lightsaber duel in any of the Star Wars movies. Cinematically it's phenomenal. It's just like a beautifully made film. My opinion of the Empire Strikes Back is that it is the best of all the Star Wars films. I have a really personal connection. It's Jacob. He's the pointing man. It's our point man. Please point. No. Don't make fun of his jacket. He didn't want to tell stories of my own. I love the Empire Strikes Back. Oh man. He didn't point. No. Did you see what he was doing? He was confused. He closed his hands around themselves. He wouldn't let them point. Oh yeah. So for those who don't know. It's like his chick. As Peter just referenced. If you remember back in EFAP 1996, 97, something like that. We covered Mr. Pointyman and I got like I'm going to call you out a little bit here Rags because it was a bit harsh. So Jacob was wearing a jacket and Rags in his usual style. Oh yeah. Oh he's looking over there. Probably at a closet where you should put the jacket. And I know I remember everyone in chat was like what the fuck Rags. Everyone went crazy. Like why would you say it's so horrible. It was pretty. I didn't think so at the time. But now that I look back on it. I could see that I've. I went a little over the line. Jack is shaming is not cool. We're suggesting that he should take a really fucking mad on Twitter about that. Well, I went back into the stream and I deleted that portion. I can't let that spread and unfortunately he got a hold of it. And he put it online and he said more. So like being so hateful. I have body issues. Now I didn't know what the fuck was happening because I didn't even speak. I'm the biggest fucking asshole. I'm alternatively attractive. I didn't even say anything in the clip. That'd be like that'd be like if you had big glasses and you're like why do you have such big glasses. He's like oh great you reminded me to my fucking sister died. It's like Jesus Christ. I used to wear glasses and now she's dead. Fucking calm down dude. Holy shit. Yeah, because people are so apparently he wore the jacket because he felt insecure about his body in some way shape or form. And so us commenting on him wearing a jacket brought that back up. And of course he was like more of this is all your fault your piece of shit. And you check it out. It's just it's just rags saying casually put the jacket in a closet. And people pointed this out. The response was yes, but more allows such hateful comments to go unchallenged. So okay. I'm not sure. Right. So it's the on the onus is on people to think that if you're wearing a jacket indoors instead of it being like that's kind of weird. They need to be thinking ahead to like well maybe he's wearing a jacket to conceal his shame like what. So we can think when I made that jacket comment. I was just jerking around. Oh. Oh, because a jerking is a sleeveless jacket. Nailed it. Yeah. Okay. Well, someone out there appreciating it. I got it. I got it. Thank you. I thought it was I think that's funny. I put it in the bank. Thank you. I get how he would probably feel like a sting there. But I mean there is something silly about sitting indoors wearing a jacket where you like yourself in the mirror before a podcast starts and you put on the jacket and you're just I'm ready. This is my moments. You're just like you could take the jacket off and stick around. You don't get to hang out a bit like you don't have to go once you're done. It's performative and show you like you don't need the jacket just fucking. Also imagine watching a video that rips on all your ideas and opinions and you go can't believe they made fun of my jacket. Yeah. But you're not worried about that for some reason. That's what I mean. We all found it really odd. We're just like why would you go for that of all the we had just got done watching do manipulation. It was a great night and then suddenly you know it's unacceptable. And so of course I apologize. I think he looks very handsome in just the t-shirt. I don't think he has any reason to worry about his body image. He looks like a very healthy weight. As long as a guy like Jim Sterling can amass an audience. You don't got to worry about your body at all buddy. Yeah. Talk about blogs and be British and though I put on as many jackets as you need. I do want to say I agree. No one can amass mass like Jim Sterling. Don't jacket shame. Okay. Oh shit. Do not jacket shame in future. I know and John's avatar looks like he's wearing like a hoodie and though we're inside clearly. I was camping. Leave him alone. Totally different. I'm telling them not to shame you. It's okay. I'm protecting. Watch after the body comes available. People are going to be like, wow, they fucking ripped on the jacket thing even more for 15 minutes. They're actually fucking neck beards. Oh, we wouldn't have talked about the fucking jacket. You missed the part where they say. All right. Can we stop with the J word? I mean that's their word. They did it for 30 hours. It's just 30 hours. That's that's jacksist. Jigger. Wow. Oh my God. Get a little close there. Wow. By the way. Rags dipping the toe in the lava. I took a trip last week and there's a little town in Arkansas called biggers. And we went through that. And I know my dad snickered when we got to bigger personal connection to that film because it's the film that made me want to tell stories of my own. I love the Empire Strikes Back. I grew up watching it a lot. Probably the best Star Wars movie, which is an uninspired take. But yeah. Yeah. Well, that's just me. Love the Empire Strikes Back. It is a classic. Hey, what? You got T.O.J. on you. Yeah. What's the problem? You can like two movies. Okay. Also. Also Rykar. Rykar McCoy in the chat said you can say jacket. Just don't use the hard T. Okay. That's a good one. Jacket. Or Jack. You can always agree. Jack. Empire is amazing. And its director, Irvin Kirschner, was an actual god among statements. Now, I definitely want to point out that diversity and acceptance has always been an issue within the fandom. And a lot of female fans and people of color were exposed to that same level of acceptance. When? All right. That's, that's, you know, I've never, I've never. I don't. Yeah, okay. All right. Whatever. Whatever. All right. Whatever. Whatever. All right. I'm leaving. Which is something I hope would get better with the diversity of the new films. Spoiler alert. It didn't. It did not. It got worse. Because you're trying to shove it in and trying to make a big deal out of it and acting like you're so pure and wonderful and angelic because, oh, I hired a black person. I'm not bad. I do like the idea of it talking about diversity in a film series that has a bunch of aliens in it. Yeah. Is it not already plenty diverse? What with the non-human beings in the film? We don't care about the stinky aliens. We want diversity out of play. Obviously. I'm just counting the minutes before we end up saying people didn't like Rose because it's like, please get this right because she's Asian. You're like, oh, okay. About my relationship with Star Wars is the longer it's been in my life, the more time I invest in its community and the more money I spend on its merchandise, the stronger the sense of ownership of Star Wars I felt. All right. All right. I see what you're going to do. You're going to like project that onto other people. Yeah. Like I was a fool just like you. Yeah. I was mistaken just like you. I used to be a horrible racist homophobic bigot. He just grew out of it when I bought more Legos. He goes on a whole section about like, I hated it with anyone who wasn't white showed up. So I know what it feels like audience. You're like, what the fuck? What? I remember being visibly disgusted whenever Lando was on screen just like other Star Wars fans. I was spitting in the theater when I saw it. Well, you know, none of us felt like that, man. You sure? Yeah. I was so relieved when they took off Vader's mask and he was white. Let's talk about that weird fucking helmet. Anger, fear, aggression, the dark side of the force, are they? Easily they flow quick to join you in a fight. If you start down the dark path forever or dominate your destiny, consume you. It's will. So I guess we're going to go into how hate and stuff like dash Yoda next to this. So you guys say Jedi master Yoda. Let's see. The tension is killing me. Oh, hi. Oh, just Yoda. Can we discuss real quick how stupid it is to say that Star Wars is fans are in any way relate like the Sith? Like if you don't like Star Wars, you're part of the dark side of the force now. Yeah. You probably know the time as well as most of the allegory. Like just if you don't like it. Only that only the sith deal in absolutes. Oh, oh, no, no. You missed the power. He said that he did that earlier. Did you know he did it as in like in the video? He did it. It's like all the people who like compare Voldemort to, I don't know, Donald Trump or whatever. You're like, can you talk about this on like a real level without these terrible metaphors that don't work at all? Well, people heads off. It has nothing to do with not liking a movie. Do you remember the comic that was going around all over the place where it was like it was describing Kylo Ren and all these different panels. But the language was broad enough that it was obviously trying to describe haters of the TLJ. And the final panel was like, don't you understand? Ryan is trying to hold a mirror to you. It's like Kylo Ren is us. He doesn't like things. He's a big old meanie head. Also, I would say that he wasn't because we saw what happens when Ryan Johnson tries to represent his TLJ haters in a movie. Anyone here seen Knives Out? It used to be a pretty big fan of game theory, but as their videos started to become less about interesting theories and more about their merch store, it started going in this direction that I really wasn't on board for. I was angry. I only spend money on Legos. But Legos are pure. Already. I can see what the problem is going to be. It's going to be like framing how he felt like he had ownership over something that he liked. And so he acted like a dickhead. And then he's going to try and project that onto everybody else. Well, yeah, because he learned he overcame. Now it's time for us to do the same. Like, you did this. He learned to love Big Brother. Yeah. You know, all those ads were actually, they didn't bother me. I just thought they did. And I started typing up my angry comment. And that's when I re- Calm down. Dude. Can we show that live? Is that, I don't know. Jeez. I'm not sure. That's some police are on their way. Realized. They owe me nothing. Congratulations. Wait, the game theory? I guess, yeah. Because that's what he must be referencing right now. Unless he's referencing Star Wars too. I mean, I don't know. I think that as a default, you owe people like integrity and, you know, some basic level of respect and something like that. Well, yeah, because when you throw this kind of statement up, they owe me nothing. I'd be like, all right, we need some qualifiers and asterisks in there. Like I need to look at. Yeah. Because that's, it's kind of like, because the, my mind always goes back to video games where people forget that there is like a transaction happening here. Like, yeah, once I bought the game, you do owe me something at this point. Yeah. Game doesn't work. You owe me now. Like you do. Cause you promised me something that I didn't get and I paid for it. So you do owe me. So like, yeah, there are instances where you might actually be owed something. You can't just throw this out. Like that's not the case all the time for any piece of media that's made. Well, this is free content to watch a YouTube video. If I pay you $14 for a movie ticket, you owe me a decent movie. Well, like you don't deliver. I have the right to be mad. We can all agree that if you pay for the movie and it doesn't play and then they ask you to leave, you'd be like, oh, you stole my money. Oh, you think you're owed something just because you gave us legal tender for all debt, both public and private. He'll say like, well, in that case they do because you're paid. So what are they owe you with a YouTube video? It's like, okay, well, I guess, you know, again, what does game theory owe you? I'd be like, I don't know. I guess in like a broad sense, nothing. I don't really. It's just a YouTube channel uploading videos. But I mean, maybe this person's like they got some kind of payment plan and they did some kind of community. I don't know. It's just, you always feel like where are you jumping to? Let's just find out anything. I owed them for the hours of entertainment. No, no, no, no, you don't know how this works. No, they got your advertising dollar, buddy. You gave them what they want. That's kind of the beauty of the system right now is that if you give your free content to enough people, there will be some of those who will give you money because they like supporting people that, you know, that they get content from right. It's very interesting concept. It is an interesting concept for sure. Yeah. I don't think like the feeling of being owed something is a necessary component of being like good to other people on a general level. But I don't. It's not. I don't think it's a bad way to conduct yourself either to like and what this guy's saying. I think like there's nothing wrong with wanting to reciprocate value that like you received right to like give give something back. But to say concretely that that like you owe this person like it's just that's not true. I don't think. Yeah. I like that you tried the reverse because like if anything I owe that we were like whoa. Stop. Spend a cent on but I was actively doing something that I knew would even in some extremely small way hurt them. I mean you can. You didn't want to hurt them by not paying them. Also don't dislikes help ultimately. Isn't that a thing? Yeah. I think the algorithm just wants engagement regardless. Yes. That's correct. And I mean it's. Correct. You're welcome to protest in your small way if you feel his videos became too much focus on merchandise or whatever he said. If you feel like he's losing his way in terms of making content that he loves instead just trying to make money or something. If you genuinely feel that about the channel like I don't think you should feel bad for being like you know I love this channel for X reason and I feel like X reason is being lost. Because they weren't making the videos I wanted them to make for me. So. Yeah. So you don't have to support them. Yeah. Exactly. Well in finness the wider fucking narrative will be coming in soon about Star Wars. The sooner reason. Like. Are you not allowed to in the same sense that somebody is allowed to make whatever they want. Are you not allowed to tell them what you think of it. Like is that is that not even you know what if you hit them right. I mean if you think about it on a different level a dislike and a bad comment can be giving them something. You're giving them feedback that theoretically make their content better. I just want to put a thumbs down and then give a comment. It doesn't have to be positive for it to be valuable. That's kind of what criticism is. You know. You will. This is I feel like we're going to get into that. The more this view goes on. What is the difference because like the whole. The way it's. You know like even the colors he's using. Like when we get to the criticism the angry fan the blah blah blah. It's always. So easily. Yeah. I'm just like when do we look we're just criticism fall and he's like obviously that falls on the good side and you're like right. Hmm. Stop writing my they got a resort to like everything else possible in lieu of an actual fucking argument. You know like. Like big big texts. Angry colors. Just think everything else to distract you everything that actually we've we've been making a sound point. They do the same thing every time they pick the worst of the worst right now which is people who say the horrible things to the actors. That's like the worst people they find in relation to toxic fandom. And then those people will be the representative of everyone who's mean to the TLJ everyone who's mean to stars in general. Which by the way is pretty funny because you know people like Patrick Williams just try etc. They'll be proponents of that like concept but they will simultaneously as soon as the rise of Skywalker comes out shit all over it. Put out a tweet that says fucking was it a fuck J.J. Abrams and it was like whoa dude like that's actually surely that qualifies in your own book is targeted harassment your family base might go right after him. You're not going to use this like it's not that people will quote in the whole space was a movie for children shit that wonderful. What a fucking roller coaster what can I say. And just started watching the near infinite amount of other media on the internet. Make stuff so wonderful content who searches with exclamation points who calls their own content wonderful. It's okay. My content is fabulous. Yeah fabulous. I do like the idea that he you know if he watched the video was like game theory and it said I don't know the secret I don't know the secret mystery in like Super Mario Sunshine and he clicks on the video and it's just like Matt Pat sitting on the toilet like reading a newspaper shit. It's just not for me you know it's just a different direction. Yeah. Well yeah and imagine it was like secret to Mario's jump and then he says you press right and then the rest of the 30 minutes are him selling things and in the style like you see on those you know like infomercial whatever thing where he's like for just 999 you can pick up the blah blah blah and then it moves to the next thing he's like this is a knife that cuts through anything anything cuts right through the cutting knife and he's just like this is an interesting direction it's like dude you can you can protest in some way shape that much it's a bit weird the knife that cuts through anything cool but I don't know it feels like you're trying to sell it to me. Because their videos just weren't for me anymore which is fine because they owe me nothing and even if that wasn't the case even if I had spent hundreds of dollars or thousands of dollars on their merch how much money would I have to spend to make it okay to harass some where are we talking about where does harass come from we can't conflate harassment and criticism and he knows this a spooky word look how red everything is and how dark those words are spooky at this point he's not even like addressing actual criticisms or arguments he's just addressing the way people go about criticisms in like his perceived like way this is just low hanging like yeah we all know to not harass people you don't make to make a whole video about nobody is out here saying I don't know I would personally love some helpful pointers like I'm always trying to step up my game you know hey leave the jack of people alone I love the implication that if you financially back someone that they don't owe you anything it's like I mean kind of but like it's kind of painting any like the tractors is unreasonable I think that with like merchandise it's like the transaction was for the clothes right the trend like it doesn't necessarily extend to the content itself but I feel like it's a non-starter because you've conflated criticism with harassment and they're not the same thing words are violence you guys why can't you stop abusing this poor person I like the idea that if he's going to straw about the shit out of this site I'd just be like you walk up to me like hey man do you like TLJ he looks like he says that to you and you go yeah it runs away gets like a suit of armor just in case the Star Wars fandom has a very very big entitlement and harassment problem most extreme instances but you were there talking about how fucking great it all was when it was the prequels and there were minor disagreements but are you neglecting the fact that what was the guy who played in episode 1 that was before TLJ and all that yeah because people are shits unfortunately as if this is some new thing dude death threats and racist and sexist language racist attacks against kelly where he trans posted a roast because of Wikipedia page we checked that out remember they renamed her Wing Wong chained child or some stupid shit like that it was like wow that is the most horrific racist attack I hope she survived also can I just highlight so obviously people have noticed that Vito and I are mirrored but someone commented they'll be like Pac-Man moving towards the center rags is already prepared for this he's jumped onto the ceiling harassment that has led to date this is every time this gets brought up we used to actually like way early EFAP we used to just concede this and then our fans were like there's no proof of this by the way and we were like there's no proof because we never looked into it we just because everyone was echoing this shit like it's always harassment definitely harassment but it's like you look for the specifics and you can't find them not that it's hard to believe that some disgruntled Star Wars fans it's something really mean to someone on Instagram like that's not it's kind of like it's sort of like if you want immediate sympathy you just say I got death threats and then if you question it they're like what if you got death threats to share them and it's like that's just what they want they want you to share the death threats written to everyone to death I imagine if you're super famous you would already have like an indifference to social media on some level already just because no matter what you're going to get a bunch of people seeing your piece of shit or whatever why would you assign a lot of meaning or weight to it it's just like oh people are retarded agents need to learn this shit in Hollywood apparently they need to tell their actors right so if you start social media you're going to get all these weird people saying weird shit you ready for this you know about this I don't know get them a little YouTube video that explains it so you're going to be your celebrity now it means everybody it's really weird but everyone knows about you but they don't really know you but they think they do and some people just want to fuck with you and a lot of people love you and you're rich and stuff but it's weird there are people who will say stuff just to see how you react it actually means nothing but they will say it just to see if you flip out so the key is don't flip out I just imagine Mahler's idea of this video is just so you're going to be a celebrity you expect so I see you're becoming a celebrity would you like some help the little paper clip shows up on Twitter media, Jake Lloyd an 8 year old boy getting relentlessly bullied and quitting acting and Ahmed Best who played Jar Jar Banks nearly committing suicide so you do agree that this has been a problem for a long time yeah so like he's like a people thing those pesky humans and these are just actors playing the roles they were given but it doesn't have to be racist or sexist or life threatening racist, sexist, life threatening it isn't necessarily racist or sexist or life threatening but I love how that's just lumped in it's like this is harassment therefore it's based on their gender the weird thing as well is that life threatening is like smaller than the top two when I would consider that the last one is a lot more important than the first two honestly though if you would ask me is someone going to flip out more for a sexist comment, a racist comment or a I'll kill you comment it's probably the racist one then it's a toss up between the last two and to clarify before someone takes a sound bite we think that doing all of these and harassing any celebrity for any reason at least I do dude I got you covered if they're communists send them knives and shit I didn't understand just a bunch of knives just a hint you know what to do with these why make this point no one is making the argument that because you love Star Wars enough you get to be racist I don't think anyone has ever said I like the idea that if you've spent enough money you now have the right to be racist you don't understand I've bought so many Star Wars Legos I get to be as racist as I want you used the hard R you earned it hard T yeah hard T you do the recording in your car and you're like okay I just got him from TLJ it is so bad I'm being racist enough this is happening it's like a key has unlocked it once you contradict enough shit that's how it works other people in the chat room they're like yeah man no that's fair did you spot seven plot holes that you had locked sexist and then ten plot holes and it's racist it's pretty neat don't tell anyone though and I was going to say we're covered because Pippo is actually the spokesman of EFAB and he looks terrified at the thoughts alone of racist or sexist or life threatening things look at him he's so scared Pippo's a good boy we raised him right to be harassment the definition of harassment is to bother, intimidate or aggressively pressure someone you don't need to fucking define it mate only unless you're clear I have a feeling for like fucking 20 minutes now I'll just define it for you I have a feeling he's doing this to be like you see it does apply to everything but like if I go like wait you liked the last Jedi twice to someone he would probably be like that does qualify you did it more than once I'm like sorry I'll just go away like I can only be suspicious of someone defining harassment I'm like here we go he's gonna blanket fucking everything in a constant or repeated way but repeated means just the one time more than once and you could it's harassment make like the older celebrities getting like mean messages on social media is one thing because they can just put it down but I do have some sympathy for kids like Jake Lloyd who like they have to go to school after like they make the Phantom Menace right yeah I just I imagine him like getting bullied in like class in the halls and shit like that ripping on him for being in that movie and ruining Star Wars and stuff like what an immense amount of pressure to put on a kid you know at the beginning he was probably just like totally stoked right and now he's just like he's he's kind of the face in a sense for like when Star Wars took a massive turn and I'd still be pretty stoked about the million dollars I got to be in a movie that's true I think I'd stomach that I would get the bullet out of your head I don't know if I'd be good with that I don't know if a million dollars is enough for that you know what I mean yeah a million dollars I'd be okay with it I'd be fine I don't care also it's one thing to make fun of someone who's like an adult and they're emotionally hopefully emotionally more mature but someone that young like they don't that's more money than they could even comprehend or know what to do with and it doesn't just give happiness was the question there like does the money counteract the bullying is that what we were especially for children like I don't know how much this is going to change for older actors definitely well yeah because they can they can probably block it out they can just be like whatever it's in my phone Kelly Marie trying to quit Instagram that's worth half a mil I think also I looked up the definition of harassment I can't find his quote at all like the repeated part it's just aggressive pressure or intimidation like I've looked up like 10 definitions I think he just forced in the fucking in a constant or repeated way I've heard the repeated element a couple times I'll be honest with you it depends on uh repeated is is critical repeated is the critical element of harassment it needs to be repeated more than once this is what I mean like I've heard it but like it's usually brought up because it can repeat it it's like ah so twice and it's always like you know that in spirit it's obviously looking for more than twice just too calm like and I feel like that's what people end up using it for and that's exactly how I would describe almost all of the discourse surrounding the last Jedi that's absurd that is absurd well like wow that's ridiculous that's a worthless definition I hate this I hate this so much Moller I know you've been dealing with this for a year or two I've been dealing with this for a year or two we haven't said anything horrible about women or people of color maybe maybe about like some demographics the disgusting ones but no mainly no, mainly no I've had some choice words on minorities but beyond that it's tiring I've found people just lying about my content I found a reset era thread where they're like yeah you ever see that Vito's video where he says look at this yellow bitch and I'm like what you ever see that Vito's video where he says Heil Hitler yeah that's pretty fucked up there's like four of those ones yep seems a little unnecessary but oh well I guess he's gotta be banned it seems like one of these things if these guys just repeat it long enough where they're like yeah most or the majority of the criticism was cause these people just hate the women it becomes true nobody listens to reason it's driving me nuts also Mr. Hackford media how do you do hello, hello you're talking about some of my favorite subject there well what's funny is that you're yet another YouTuber that makes videos that relate to criticism for the sequel trilogy how does it feel to be a harasser oh it feels great piece of shit also I Vito I really like how you made that very clear parody where you pretended to buy Belle Delphine's water her bathwater and vape it and then at the end of the video that you just like took a pickle jar of some shit and emptied it out and removed the label and then you said everyone who believed this video is stupid and people on twitter kept going oh yeah isn't that the fucking guy that vape Belle Delphine's bathwater no one was interested in being honest or like it's the same shit I learned a very interesting lesson from that video and it's if the fiction is more interesting than the truth people will just go with the fiction and it's much more interesting to say people just hate the last Jedi because of racism and sexism and it's a symptom of this toxic culture it's not interesting to say I know the characters were just written badly well what's what sounds more interesting to you the whole basement dweller thing ever since the dawn of time you have like the fucking the comic fan from the Simpsons who's just like and actually about like everything so believing that they're just these genuine degenerate pieces of shit that hate everyone based on like really insignificant reasons most normal people will be like oh yeah those fucking assholes um what what what sounds more interesting to you a bunch of guys talking about different things really to media but then mainly about Joker for a bit and then about responses to the community or three misogynists ranting for 11 hours about a woman having an opinion already that spread like wildfire someone should stop them good old Jenny Nicholson oh she's she's legendary you saw her tweet recently right where she was like it sucks that people spread lies about me yeah I was like irony the tweet Jenny snake in the grass Nicholson my god I had a run with her I've been ranting on Twitter because we met at a battle angel Alita event and we were perfectly cordial we were like we were filming the whole thing was fun and then her and her friend later go Vito was objectifying us and filming our feet and I'm like what on earth are you talking about I go watch the video there's like a 10 second part or was like a physical challenge we got a run on a platform to gain points they're like he was panning up and down my legs I'm like yeah so wait to help you out right it's a game where you have to like run on the spot and if you if you're trying to film that in like an interesting way you'll show as you do you show everyone reacting to it and then maybe you show her running on the spot and so you go down to a feet you're like look at a go and it's like wow pivot I mean I've just learned like I had no point was I filming that it's not sexually interesting at all if people don't like you on the internet they are going to try to find as much information that matches their current impression of you I just saw that guy's a fucking piece of shit I knew it I absolutely knew that was the case I'll just add this to my video I came out of rags and I have a warehouse filled with corpses they'd be like I knew it those two of course it's the whole idea that confirmation bias is very well documented and many many many many people are very susceptible to it it's something you need to be vigilant about in yourself and a lot of people find you look at a picture of me and you go I probably films women's feet I believe it it's more like it's more like you know the whole idea news is the obvious example right like the existence of specific news channels and newspapers isn't owed to confirmation bias just being prevalent in people you just got to be careful with it right someone said in the chat if it came out like the one about my house I mean I used that as an example because it's absurd it's not something that me and rags would have done that's ridiculous let's move on guys let's watch the video you and the watch together Mr. Hackford media I am not if I can find the link here yes I want to hear more about how it harasses yeah misogynists tell me tell me just how bad a man I am please the way and that's exactly how I would describe almost all of the discourse surrounding the last Jedi can you see the video yes all of the discourse surrounding the last Jedi as of the writing of the script the last Jedi came out 11 months ago and I still get comments on the avatar video about how terrible the last Jedi was I mean the last Jedi was really bad though yeah it was really really shitty it took a long time for that to stop being a topic that kept coming up it still comes up of course it's just not as much now tweet about liking the last Jedi without people immediately telling me how dumb I am for liking it and people who dislike the last Jedi immediately being told that they're racist pieces of shit yeah like how do you think it is like we get really deep character assessments made about us because we didn't like a movie we've been called Nazis homophobes racist everything it's like a Star Wars movie I don't feel sympathy for you more people for the warehouse I can't be a pretentious asshole actually here's a fun drinking game go look up whatever last Jedi director says his most recent tweet is and scroll down take a sip for every person calling the last Jedi garbage welcome to fucking twitter by the way so the equivalent we need to get used to this shit you have a bunch of people in the public square walking around chilling out then ryan johnson goes like hey check out my food I took a photo of it it's pretty cool and someone goes fuck you yeah I actually have a really funny anecdote a friend of mine from college who was like a super insane stoner who always just talked like an absolute idiot but he had like the greatest wisdom ever and he told me at one point yeah I've learned that there's literally just no point on leaving a comment on anything because whatever the name is of the greatest soccer player ever in America the British guy I forget his name but like the really handsome guy there was some video of him as a little kid playing soccer when he was like 6 and he just scrolled down he was like fuck a piece of shit he was just like okay there's nothing constructive to be had here that's just when he realized like don't even try is that David Beckham you're talking about yeah David Beckham the name escaped me yeah fuck that guy I'm tired of like being because the thing is the more hypersensitive you are to people being mean to you on the internet the more rules that will come down the more you're not allowed certain words will be banned I don't want this like it's going to get really sanitized every single wait yeah because recently wasn't leafy banned like yesterday or something everybody's debating whether or not that's valid everyone's unsure because the current thing is like yeah well he harassed Pokemon and it's like did he and he made like 7 videos videos on it and it's like yeah but none of them were about why was she in the title of Thubdale clickbait if you watched any of them he like randomly rambles about stocks and shit it's barely anything to do with Pokemon and so it almost to me is like a giant experiment it's like does that count as harassment I wonder when the title is LOL Pokemon lost tier 3 subs and then the video itself has nothing to do with it or very little that is if I mean clickbait titles are technically against the rules but it's one of those I don't think it's ever been forced for false advertising how could it have ever been enforced on like YouTube of all platforms he's also using clickbait titles as a clear comedic device I feel leafy was banned at some point right and he came back and he was banned again this time he was banned he was given a message specifically by YouTube to say he's violated harassment too many times which of course as he just laid out the harassment there I guess leafy would qualify but I still think you have to be a little generous with the definition sometimes and then he gets really spooky because it's like wait who's throwing the ban hammer around and what are their biases mm-hmm a shot for congratulations you have alcohol poisoning now what a fun game so my question to everyone doing this is why though oh I don't know why why don't you you're just you're just talking at these random people who might do that you take you take a comment that says you suck go eat poop and he's like why would you say that it's like why don't why does anyone say anything dude like I don't know it's just a randy and it's how it could be like five years videos like this talking a back to them why call me poopy face honestly what are you accomplishing I just hold on yeah no they're still all here even though it really seems like you've been taking my crazy pill if you say it a fourth time it'll be funny he's turned it on us now we're taking crazy pills criticism is healthy and necessary here we go here we go what so you're not actually going to address any criticism of the movie are you well I'm okay with the idea that that's not what this video is specifically about I'm curious about this whole separating criticism from harassment thing let's see where his line is criticism on your personal Facebook or Twitter feed is 100% fine yelling that criticism yelling at it on Twitter yeah so I was about like so if I post a tweet saying boo boo lame lame poo poo poo but if I put that tweet on someone's tweet saying TLJ good good well that's what I mean like is it harassment to reply to a tweet with poo poo could you I don't know poo poo on two sweets the police bust down your door why don't you just shoot him in the fucking head just get it over with Jesus also chase do you wish do you wish to exit our wonderful menagerie of nonsense I I regret to inform you that I must it is five in the morning but I've had a very good time but I will say before I leave the only reason why I give a shit about going to bed at a slightly reasonable hour is tomorrow I will be on a D&D stream with Nick Rakeda and the Ralph Rittort forget it and I'm that tired and it's gonna be fun so if you give a shit then watch my twitter or something but otherwise is Ralph Rittort the guy with the really high pitched voice he's the one that's the famous now wait a minute Matt I barely know anything about him I just know that he's a very contentious figure who drinks a lot so I think it'll be it'll be a time so oh you're gonna have some fun with Ralph buddy yes that's what I've heard I'm a frequent maintenance of that gentlemen we have an HRP lore in which he's apparently Nick Rakeda is like a Bill Clinton knockoff and his character is a paladin that loves like thick women so it'll be something but anyway thank you for having me love you chat except you, you know you are and yeah thanks for having me it was fun and I wish I could have gotten to see the rest of this piece of shit video but I'll just be left wondering thanks for coming you disgusting terrible ugly wonderful why would you say something like that to me the last one was nice also wow that you're like that icon what Pippo is now reacting to that okay in the lore Pippo is spooked film who's already heard those criticisms 8 million times 11 months after the film came out does that matter if the person doesn't know like if if I post on someone's tweet like hey it wasn't very good though and then they go 8 million people told me that already it's like oh well does this asshole think he's the first one to say uh harassment is bad in the youtube video I just again I'm starting to get lost on like wait what do you think twitter is like what's happened why does everybody fucking out words treat twitter as though they express something and that like only approval is allowed cause they desperately try and generate that with blockchains and stuff but I'm just like damn I don't think you knew what you were signing up to and you went to twitter in the first place like I agree it's a cesspool but it's still a cesspool where people can reply it reminds me of we were talking about online gaming and how like you're being exposed to a bunch of players who are in a highly competitive environment they're all anonymous and they're gonna say some crazy shit uh it's kind of like twitter is a very I don't know it's almost like an anti-human tool where it's like a permanent log of knee jerk reactions forever stored on the internet and human communication I don't think was ever really meant to be that like you're not supposed to fucking let your thoughts pour out of your head just like you're supposed to like think about what you're saying and then like be able to be face to face with a person and read their body language and so much of communication is non-verbal let them be real and have that truth empathize with like the way they're feeling and stuff but then twitter is just like it is very stupid that they expect nothing but compliments of course the problem with twitter as well is it heavily rewards you for being snarky and mouthing off there's an incentive and the fact that you know people like you know human beings are kind of status seekers so like if people are all approving and retweeting and liking then if that's the kind of thing that gets people excited then it gives people more of an incentive to act like a dick and so it becomes almost like a cycle and it's really beneficial for twitter like you know as a company it's not super beneficial for the people using the platform no I wish people would just realize twitter is just a rage arcade where you get points for going nuts on people don't take it too serious it's just a stupid little point game where whoever yells the loudest gets the most points yeah I don't feel like my life got worse when I got banned from twitter yeah like there's a snark factor on there that you the the stronger the response in the lower amount of words the more points you get it is like disgusting honestly negativity derives engagement and yeah this is the thing like people like I'm only entitled to positive responses I'm like on twitter Jesus I don't know what you thought you were saying this is all I ever think I keep thinking it more like the internet is like the story of red dead redemption right it's like you know the old west is dying civilization more and more civilization coming my internet space and it feels like you know the sort of the crackdowns that are happening are like the pinkitins and the people who used to use the internet are like Dutch vandalins gang it's kind of like some yeah is it the third pirate movie in essence I think that's true sorry go ahead the third pirates movies kind of the same thing with the pirates we're running around everything's great then the East India trading company make like the map and they're filling in all the gaps and they're controlling all the areas and they have the powerful things in play I'm kind of it's a bit of a stretch but you know like running around on different sites if you remember like rewinds 10-15 years there's actually a couple of sites for different things when things got started up there's all kind of there's like as more time goes on there's usually just one site per significant thing and uh well they patched it all the social media sites were like why do you guys have your own websites why don't we just all upload videos to the same website it'll be easier and we went okay and they're like oh by the way we're gonna ban you for having the wrong opinion well you didn't tell us that part of it when we signed up and now 10 years we're into this thing you can't re-establish a website because yeah sorry that I still think there's two genders and that's Fox is sorry Nazi well actually the Nazi thing that's like what happens now right is like the only other alternative sites are filled with Nazis that's what people say do you choice harsh rules on Nazis if you want to choose a different platform like people are always like dude you should upload on Bitshoot I'm like yeah I would but like then somebody goes to the front page and it's all questions about whether or not Jewish you know the Jews are behind the blood and uh I don't want people to see that when they come looking for my content I just don't do you say Jewish vampires yeah yeah harvesting fear blood you're adrenalized blood because they have to terrify children they get adrenaline in the blood which they can then harvest wow do you learn something new every day it's an actual thing by the way is no longer criticism it is harassment if you're sub tweeting a total stranger to tell them how stupid they are for liking something or correct me if I'm wrong I gotta get my lingo correct quote tweeting is what he's referencing sub tweeting is when you're um a dumbass without actually like using their name so quote tweeting is when you put their tweet and then your tweet is visible around it and sub tweeting is when you're just adding them right or am I that's exactly what I thought I thought so tweeting is recleating with a comma because I've heard it said loads of times that sub tweeting is like when you you're like I fucking hate that dog with the glasses and you're like you talk about rags like no uh so sub so sub tweeting is the actor mentioning a person on twitter without using the symbol at for their name so they don't see what you've written it is the internet equivalent of talking behind someone's back according to the Cambridge English Diction and you know what it actually is because whenever someone fucking acts me into those kinds of conversations the next comment down will be like wow telling on me it's like you don't want people to know that you say it don't say it publicly on social media I don't know when stupid prizes like what do you want I do like the idea you know like in a classroom you're like Timmy's prick and then I don't know like Bobby's like hey Timmy Mike said that you're a prick what are you doing oh yeah I'm about to prove him right he hits block and Timmy's like what I didn't even talk to the block it's a fucking mess but of course there's only one bad guy and it's the one who was being talked about if you're sub tweeting a total stranger to tell them how stupid they are for liking something or not liking something it is harassment oh fuck off if you're sub tweeting but they're not tweeting at you how's that harassment I mean defined targeting at that point clarifies yeah so if I put out two tweets that weren't atting him and I said make stuff is dumb for liking said thing make stuff is dumb for not hating said thing he'd actually label me a harasser like wow dude it's ridiculous if you're putting someone's statement as negative it's harassment well you really gotta we do so many words have had this done to them in a fucking day and age these really grand words that really tell you something important happening have just been reduced down to someone nudges you and you go you just killed me you gotta be careful with this cause like imagine if this guy I don't know he saw somebody like hey I don't know maybe he's driving in his car and he gets cut off by some dude he's like hey dickhead and then he honks his horn and says dickhead again and then the police just like deploy the the wires to like cut his wheels this is like get down on the ground harassment harassment because you called someone a dickhead twice yeah society's broken man the second we got into this rhetoric where it's like your words can literally kill people the plot was lost hey man are you not heard of avada cadabra have I heard of what? avada cadabra words that can kill very true I think it's more than magic no it's just speaking if I put in a tweet of avada cadabra at fucking make stuff I'd be off that platform in a second harassment mooder yeah like this is getting a little silly cause you really like don't go down this road I beg you it's gonna be bad for everyone in particular this is a really silly example like if I were to ever get a tweet like that and I have gotten tweets like that where it's just you're dumb for not liking this thing but with no supporting evidence accompanying it I just look at them right away as the dumb one and I assume that everyone else who sees that tweet is the dumb one because they're calling me a name and not even saying why they think that my opinion is wrong it's like why would I waste any time on that if they were to actually say this is why you're wrong then that's I see that as just an opportunity to respond and perhaps learn acknowledge some truth that you didn't before you know or just meet somewhere in between where maybe it's like oh yeah I didn't think of it that way or you crush the other guy and say no actually you're wrong this is why do you think he'd defend my honor by all the different tweets from all these different content creators screenshotting my videos and saying they're long does that count as harassment um against you no not possible do you know what he'd be like I swear to f***ing god if we put it all up to him he'd be like you'd finish your videos up pretty long okay we're not liking something it is harassment let's do a quick exercise in empathy oh good god oh f*** off can we go to another video no no we have to defeat this video we've got I'm sorry he's going to define words for me he's going to teach us about empathy it's a wonderful word every single time you posted or tweeted about anything you liked a dozen people immediately responded by telling you how idiotic you are yeah what about all the people who when you said that there was something you didn't like and then all of those people called you a piece of s*** it sucks we don't talk about that that's the lame side of things this is the important one you should be allowed to love stuff you should not be allowed to experience the other emotion the evil one yeah also welcome to social media and the internet maybe stop liking s*** things well that's the two options right accept it understand it move the f*** on or let's work on stomping this out to the point where everybody's not allowed to say anything mean anymore it's like oh it's at this point where you feel like you just want people to tell you that you're right on the internet yes that's what you want that's all you want to do this video has taught me that this is all you think the internet should be and that's all you want from it well can you imagine if the internet really was the sanitization to the point where everyone just goes hi how are you I'm good how are you I am good it sounds like f***ing equilibrium or some s*** wasn't that like what was that Simpsons episode where it was the tree house of horror where like Flanders had taken over the the ultimate universe and then everybody on their break room down it's not so bad you know and they let you keep the peace of brain they cut out oh hello hello who's that big man there who's that join us father no I prefer the concept that the idea of everyone being nice to each other is too much for Homa you can't take it I think this this kind of thinking is rooted definitely in a skewed idea of what a utopian state of existence pain this plays no role right well then if you take pain out of it you take growth away from that as well so like what's the purpose there is no such thing as a peak if there's no trough you know if there's no peaks if there are no troughs it's all just flat yeah are we really all here to suck each other's tics or are we here to like you know bump up against each other maybe break some bones but heal them as well and then grow stronger and I think that's what it's it's more about that you know I imagine people might even start like wanting to start a fight if everything was super sanitized like you know I want a bit of excitement places boring what did what did you like about this film and then that person goes oh I like this you know I kind of didn't like that and then they get banned like wait what I'm also kind of like I'm not sure that you can have human nature without anybody I mean we we are very negative creatures we had to be because if we weren't negative we got eaten by sabertooth tigers you know we had to be negative we had to always like paranoia I hate to say it I don't like those sabertooth tigers one bit combine our pattern recognition with our desire to solve problems and that's already surprised that bad movies tend to upset people yeah I just like this world though he's he's like all those innocent snowflakes saying hey I love this thing and all these mean people come out of nowhere and say dumb garbage awful wrong idiot stupid yeah how do you deal with it man I don't know for enjoying that thing and here's a list of a hundred reasons why that thing is stupid and you're stupid for liking it would you feel grateful for their quote-unquote criticism or would you hate it because you're I thought if they had a list of reasons then why you made it sound like yeah quotation marks it is criticism if there's reasons for it at that point well this this happens on twitter when I someone says something just fucking insane like you know the ones that are like more than used to be deleted from the universe or your critiques are poor yes that my critique and if I like quote tweet with a pepe just being like shocked or crying and then there's people who like hey what's up with this what got you to the point where you just wanted to tweet about how more is the worst thing in the universe and then they will put out another tweet being like great I'm being harassed it's like well hang on that person just asked you a question like chill out and they're like yeah but it's a fan of yours asking the question so it's like oh block chain it is I guess wow that's pretty prejudice right no it's reasonable okay they know they're evil because you're a sane human not doing that to someone that the only two options by the way about being a good star wars fan it's about being a good person I don't I don't fucking faggots trying to tell me how to be a good person like I just don't shit it's they don't they don't like this star wars movie so I have to lecture them on how to be a good person it's the most pretentious holier than now bullshit I've ever seen okay that's an exaggeration all he was doing was talking about empathy and how you probably lack it and you need to understand well I spent all mine yesterday and I gotta wait till next week to recharge so I guess he's shit out of luck isn't he this is what I mean like I don't know how you can watch this and come away being like yeah that was I've learned so much and that behavior is the opposite of what star wars is literally about what is star wars about now you're letting the dark side cloud you I don't I don't mean to remember the first time I think we came across this argument was when I hit everything was like isn't the point of star wars to see the light to over cover the doctor that yeah it's like to hold on to hope at all costs even though the film specifically point out that sometimes you need to combat the people who are opposed to you well it was better than that because we're talking 2017 right this is a while ago or late early 2018 but I had everything said that about star wars and that the fandom need to realize like hey star wars is about the light it's like I hit everything favors for ripping destiny to shreds fighting the light about finding the light yeah oh shit this is what I mean like as if as if there's a property that's all about shitting on everything and everyone's like yes we can criticize that one that's what it's about it promotes now is about subverting expectations so I hope you like this this world that you enjoy if you like the new world of star wars it's all about fucking subverting expectations Jedi are peacekeepers hatred and aggression oh fucking hell I don't want to be like Jedi fuck that shit I want to fuck it's like what if I want to be like Palpatine I'm into some crazy ass mad space pussy Jedi the tower any adventure franchise you say marbles about you know empathy and compassion like this is stupid it's not star wars fans are have no more obligation to be good people than anyone else with Indiana Jones was fighting you know on the airport he should have been like I will beat you by being nice to you Nazis I will beat you with kindness no dude go the Neil Druckmann way he says I forgive you Nazis wait what he's like sitting there the arc of the covenants about to be open he's like you know what I should look at this you know what's the harm in that yeah um if best faith interpretation this argument is by being familiar with star wars content you should be familiar with being a good person that's just laughable to be are the dark side there was a child in the news a few months ago that refused to fight back against his bullies because quote because he's a pussy ass bitch I'm sorry this is not like yeah bully to fight back fight back yeah is the defender of the county himself yeah what films have you been watching with a Jedi just stand there and get killed outside of advocate advocate that it's a good idea not to defend yourself yeah that was my kid I beat his ass the second time when he got home do you remember um like all the viral videos to get around when there's like a larger child it doesn't even have to be a larger child but there's like chilling out and there's some annoying prick hitting them over and over again and then they just turn around whack them once and they clean out and everyone's just like wow that's awesome it's like yeah the bully will not forget that shit um a lot of parents will be like when you're hit hit twice hard back like yeah give them a reason to never fucking even think about touching you again defend yourself with you you'll fuck back twice as hard I just you it's like it's not the Jedi way to fight back clip to fucking even though Jedi fight back just show the clip people people confuse being nice and letting people walk all over you well yeah um when you show them the fucking army of Jedi going to war and be like that's not the Jedi way all of you are wrong it wasn't the Jedi way when uh it wasn't the Jedi way when like Obi-Wan was defending himself it wasn't the Jedi way when Luke was defending himself well just I picturing now like because Obi-Wan like let himself get cut down that was how does it Jedi way is to die oh yeah that's how you get slaughtered well I mean T.O.J that's the Jedi way to not go and save your friends until the last minute and not even show up and then just die and leave the Jedi way is just getting killed what's the lightsaber for I don't know exactly why even have it you know the scene with obviously Kylo stabbing through uh Luke's ghost imagine like children are like if the bully comes at you with a knife just let him stab like there's a difference between just fighting anybody and then knowing how to fight but not doing it until it's like a last resort exactly like you have to that's I think what this kid like he misinterpreted it that this is what he took from that kind of thinking or fighting his it's funny we've done is really react to the the sentence we don't know how he's going to deal with this well I was thinking I was raised at a pretty religious household my parents never ever were like yeah you need to just turn the other cheek when people attack you like don't that part just don't worry about that part you have to fuck him up I for an eye don't let people beat you up it's fucking retarded yeah people end up not respecting you you know if you don't fight your ground bullies you know they thrive on like targets that don't fight back right or the dark side there was a child in the news a few months ago that refused to fight back against his bullies because quote it's not the Jedi way and that's the part you mean quote because it's not the Jedi way not quote because it's it's whatever said at this pot anyway yeah I know why that's that's bad with that's not that's not something we need to be encouraging in kids is to not defend yourself this whole thing when I was that seven year old kid with the pot raising backpack deflecting laser blasts from imaginary destroyer droids why are you fighting back yeah I'll kill you don't play back against your robot bullies turn the other cheek like a good Jedi robot bullies I wanted him to say when I was seven I let people kick my ass all the time I'm a real Jedi he probably still gets his ass kicked oh on twitter thing laser blasts from imaginary destroyer droids if someone came up to me and said dude what are you doing episode one is garbage the writing is objectively terrible yeah Padme was a total Mary Sue what Padme was a Mary Sue I want to kill myself only an idiot would enjoy that movie honestly oh seriously like so first of all my brain went oh come on people like let you enjoy shit but then my brain was like you know what fuck it if people are saying this do you get over it Jesus Christ yeah random coming up saying oh you can't enjoy it because it's wrong to enjoy a random but I just just it's fine it's fine just it's not an argument it's fine it's fine just ignore it well but dude there's like 12 of them oh my god how do you how do you survive must be getting quote tweeted all the time by these these harasses yeah you should just be laughing at them like they're the one wasting their time tweeting it is you know senseless insults at you fuck you I'm playing video games you guys have spent time on twitter if you have someone who like outwardly says if you like the last Jedi you are wrong tweet that as like a pro TLJ account you're gonna get a shit ton of likes like look at this idiot person telling people that they can't like shit it's like I don't even know that these comments survive that well on stuff like Twitter but no they need to be zeroed in and blocked and stomped out or you know these these accounts themselves need to learn about empathy right I would have either become a very closeted Star Wars fan or would have stopped being a star why are you doing your little trembling voice again stop it if this is making you emotional you need you need to grow the fuck up well in fairness he said not enjoying a star wars film is the absolute worst thing for a star wars fan so this obviously upsets him rags talking about the potential of not enjoying a star wars film like he has to feel that way temporarily and even that that sends him into almost a coma like this guy who's trembling these words at this is the one trying to give us life advice like I don't know man you don't seem like prime candidate material for teaching us how to live our lives well nope he knows us up he's been around the block I never would have been a part of the fandom and I never would have been inspired to do what I do today because as a kid you're very whose responsibility is that though at the end of the day what the things that you allow to get let's be honest right someone sends you a tweet saying like I hate you you suck and then you go alright well you suck and then you find out because you said that to them that they were going to be an astrophysicist and now they're not how do you feel well it's like that's your responsibility what you do is on you I feel like if that's all it takes to make you not become a fan of something you weren't really that invested in being a fan in the first place exactly like if somebody would have come up maybe like fuck you Fringy you should never try and write anything ever it's like okay like I still gotta don't care and then you have this guy making a video on your behalf Fringy stopped writing after that mean tweet how does that make you feel mean people like but if I did that would be my fault ultimately because that would be my decision nobody can make you do anything you know that's your decision weak spirit as Dave Chappelle would say weak spirit I don't know like I can't relate because obviously when I was in school like people made fun of the things I was interested in that didn't stop me though why would it if I like something what do I care if some dipshits are if you play barricade DS the bunch of people and someone goes past it's like lol nerds played on DS it was fun though masturbating in public what yeah but it's fun though when I started making videos I was terrible but and then people told me my videos were terrible but I wanted to keep doing it because I knew like this is what I want to do I want to get better at this and I just stuck with it right yeah I'm not gonna let people say oh I guess I better not do this then like of course you're gonna suck at whatever it is you attempt and you just gotta keep at it as long as you like it and it's what you want to get good at you just keep at it he easily influenced you're trained to accept what adults tell you is good or bad no matter how you feel about it that whole you'll understand when you're so who's letting their kids unsupervised in youtube comment sections and twitter accounts like you're showing all these kids but even then like what he's saying that always kids you just I don't know there are a lot of people who are adults who are like video games are stupid I never change my opinion on can I roll this back I want to know what exactly he just said the parents say they do today because as a kid you're very easily influenced you're trained to accept what adults tell you is good or bad no matter how you feel about it that whole you'll understand when you're older no no no no first off the last thing you need to be telling kids is that it's virtuous for them to get their ass kicked but it's the Jedi way Jedi way this guy's literally he's in this video he's saying it's a good thing that this kid allowed himself to get bullied and beat up and now he's trying to grand stand to us and moralize about oh won't you think of the children is like listen you fucking asshole you're telling kids it's good to let themselves get beat up well he didn't necessarily he didn't seem to comment on the pro economy he just said it's sad or something I don't I don't know if he approves of the child not defending themselves I couldn't really tell I almost he's implying that it's virtuous not yeah even if it's you know first out of self-preservation yeah I want to make sure we cover that is retarded like you seriously stick up for yourself guys does he know it's called Star Wars I don't give a fuck this the Jedi way to just roll over and let people beat the shit out of you I'm not a fan of the Jedi way also does he realize how opinionated the little kids can be now he's the same kids who bullied the Jake Lloyd character that we mentioned earlier they almost always listen to adults right yeah let them onto Twitter and see how friendly they are why didn't the rebels just let them blow up yavin like who cares that's that's the Jedi way it's the Jedi way come on Luke's about to fight the torpedoes Obi-Wan is like no Luke that's not the Jedi way maybe the Jedi way is stupid like the Mandalorian not taking her helmet off thing I got fucking stupid yeah I agree Luke's doing the truncheon and Obi-Wan comes in and he goes no I don't don't don't do anything he's like I'm getting mixed messages didn't you say I was supposed to it's like I don't know kind of like look that you want like you want to win but don't actually hit anyone so that's why you just let Darth Vader kill you oh it's all coming together he's like why did you fight him at first he's like that was sort of like you can't beat me but I'm gonna let you beat me just so you know that you couldn't have done it unless I let you yeah I wasn't even trying Vader's like fuck you man I'm still killing you yeah when those kids see anyone online talking about liking the last Jedi we seriously doing think of the children I don't give a shit about think of all the children on twitter is what it is even kids on Twitter I don't know look at those faces have you no heart who's Reverend Lovejoy's wife we need her won't somebody please think of the children oh wait it doesn't mo do it at one point won't somebody please think of the children when they go to the mayor's office point being wow you're wheeling out the kids to be like stop being mean about the movie okay look at the children they're sad they see a horde of people telling that person how wrong and stupid they are so do you remember how we said that he won't do the flip of this where kids come online to talk about how they did not enjoy the space movie and a bunch of people say they're dumb garbage and awful for not liking it you gonna cover that because that doesn't happen it's gotten to the point where certain people aren't welcome in the Star Wars fandom because they're a fan of a Star Wars film but you're trying to do that the other way around yeah Salty Than Crate was the web subreddit it was almost exclusively about like fuck the last Jedi and then Salty Than Crate spelt with a K was fuck the people who say fuck the last Jedi so and again we had this recently with The Last of Us 1 The Last of Us as a franchise is cool thumbs up The Last of Us 2 subreddit is like The Last of Us 1 is great The Last of Us 2 can suck a dick so the idea that there's only the haters blocking people from the fandom what do you mean this is happening on both sides shut up he was like saying how does that do and what does he want does he want the whole fandom to agree which movies are good and which movies are bad this is not new everybody has to be happy and everything's great and nothing's ever bad ever do you think this is explained by him just being new to all of this it's like look how crazy angry and rude well he never grew up we've talked about this before but I think almost 6 of us currently we're all a part of a generation that got way worse than this right to your ears on xbox live yeah goddamn modern warfare 2 online like halo 3 that toughened me up really quick yeah exactly it was a real trial by fire and then it's like someone on twitter said I was dumb you're like oh no are you okay just sit down it's like oh my god what about you were they criticizing that you liked a movie wow I'm imagining this south park style scene where the kids like in a hospital bed on an IV it's the worst case of tweeting I've ever seen he might not make it which is nonsense but for those gatekeepers it's not about loving star wars anymore it's about owning star wars same fucking thing about you I see this from the other side way more than our own the fandom menace the toxic brood the hate mongers blah blah blah blah you guys do all the fucking time you didn't like it you think it's bad you're not real star wars fans real star wars fans fucking support product because that's what star wars fans do the key difference the key difference is that this guy is making a lot of value judgments about people as people like it's human beings fundamentally because of this whereas like yeah I don't have a shit if you liked it I'm not making this about whether or not you're a good or bad person because you liked a movie that I didn't like yeah I guess I'm sure he kind of is if we're going to talk about who ascribes motivation first like they don't even hesitate they're just like BOOM BOOM all the motivations of the world this is exactly who you are bye you're like oh I don't feel like I'm those things I don't feel like I go down alleyways hunting waitresses with my opinions that seems weird just pretend it's what you wanted and see if you like that cough was perfectly timed by the way yeah it's not just kids that are being put off by it Christopher Mcquarrie extremely talented director of mission impossible fallout said that he would have loved to have directed a star wars film but the treatment of ryan johnson has cured him of that because okay I don't what are we supposed to conclude about that man if ryan johnson would have made a good movie and everyone said thanks so much ryan johnson well there you go but ryan johnson made a really fucking shitty star wars movie he basically ruined the franchise and cost Disney hundreds of millions of dollars like don't what do you want it to say like good job ryan better luck next fucking time don't get tricked this is this is just we went over this already fringy does the thing on twitter just casual interaction and a wizard tells him what you just did stopped cancer from being cured by the scientist and and you're like what what the fuck does that have to do with me and it's like look when you mean quist from a quarry doesn't make a star wars movie like what the fuck okay I don't understand like what am I supposed to do about this what are you suggesting no more mean stuff otherwise directors won't make movies anymore guys like fucking hell make room for more aggressive directors I suppose mission impossible fallout was really good though you mean mission impossible fallout right what did you say for I said fallout but it might sound like fall yeah I like for but yeah fallouts the talk to which one's for ghost protocol and I like that one I like that one I like four five and six a lot don't make no mistake question for my quarry if you make the next mission possible movie about how Ethan Hunt is really old and cowardly and hates saving people's lives the same thing it's not this will be like we don't get to this this giant elephant in the room that we were all bouncing around with this conversation like the Ryan Johnson movie was really shit and they're like yeah no no no no no this is just no step away from that elephant really make a star wars movie like then yeah you probably don't understand the franchise but anyone understands the franchise it's not a daunting task to make a good star wars movie the elements are like pretty it's not that hard it's really not that hard no it's it's a pretty cut and dry give us some heroes some villains you know is a little bit of some themes that are interesting and whatever else just don't take Luke Skywalker and make him a sad old weirdo who drinks monster titty milk like nobody wants that don't you understand JJ left him no choice he put him on an island oh there you go the no choice that's it done cause relentless hatred and destruction what what destruction destruction oh my god Jesus Christ doesn't inspire creativity uhhhh gonna gonna put a hang on there made to Rooney so when you have something like season 8 game of thrones happen and then everyone goes through like how fucking bad it was and the reasons why what the characters should be doing you get a lot of people out there who are like hey I'm a I'm gonna write something like I'm just gonna write that scene but the way I think it should have gone actually I'm gonna write the episode the season actually fuck it I'm just gonna write my own show and then boom creativity that came from what this guy calls destruction I guess um you'd be surprised how much like new writers are born out of being fucking pissed that their IPs were destroyed oh yeah totally yeah spite is an incredibly powerful motivator oh yeah also regarding this little graphic he's doing is like I think it's pretty fair to say that when it came to the last Jedi Ryan Johnson was very creative in the way he destroyed Star Wars oh as weekend warrior has just highlighted uh you know Chris Duckman was unhappy with Batman vs Superman and so he was inspired to write a script of his own did you guys did you read that earlier no but wait how long are you gonna be awake for free I'm still good for like at least a few hours well let's see if we can finish yeah if we can finish this then let's try and do that we're already spent I should probably go that is okay sir it was it was fun to have you thanks for having me on pop on say hi yeah yeah because obviously you you haven't popped on in the in the same sort of way as a lot of other people but it was nice to see you I hope you're doing well of course you um everyone everyone's very happy and waiting for new coverage of well sorry new destruction and harassment new destruction so yeah we'll see about that the second that you release it but yeah thanks for popping in thank you it was good stuff please continue oh you bet catch you later have a good night man let's see about this destruction it just inspires more destruction which is why disney has put all star wars spinoffs on indefinite um I can think of other explanations for this yeah so I didn't make any money being the big one the little last money kidding the films the main films have been pretty the last one made half what the first one did remember this narrative where it was like look what you did star wars haters now we're not getting more and we're all like hmm good I mean of all the things that could have gone wrong I feel like we did okay we're not going to get a solo two car they wanted to do a trilogy didn't they I didn't want to do a trilogy I'm fucking crazy that well yeah get a bobu frik prequel okay so we did lose some stuff I will agree bobu frik prequel would have been cool would have developed a character yeah this was not bad news to me whatsoever you could call the whole like do you want to gamble at this point with star wars is so ruined that you'll take you know an attempt no star wars but this that's the two options like would you prefer another random quality movie roll of the dice from disney or just stop it I don't know it's it's fun to talk about the shitty star wars movies but like isn't it pretty bad that that's the point we're at though we're like hmm no more content that is tempting yeah there's no movie coming out at all I'm like oh no there's nothing to rip on come on Hollywood what am I going to do make fun of rolls too they shouldn't feel any pressure I don't think to make movies in like a trilogy like I don't think that has to be a necessary component of star wars it's like they need to come in threes I think that's you monsters um I don't care who wanted it their movies are really shit and I'm not gonna I mean if they didn't make shit movies I would be excited to get more great movies but their movies are garbage and I'm not I'll remember that thing you're talking about earlier like what what we're owed and what they're owed is like well if they make crappy movies then they're not owed a good review yeah that's true nor are they owed like some kind of ridiculously positive attitude I am tired the idea that you've got to be a fucking well-behaved like whole monitor online we just like is everybody behaving nobody's using mean words like stupid poopy head no and none of that think of the children come on all those kids regularly signing onto twitter to talk about star wars oh man look at them go watch your review and have their live shit why does this monster exist how do we stop it like I said I have always loved star wars the delivery I used to love it my love is conditional and it must be earned well that's where you're wrong this is like one of those guys I'll just love it no matter what no matter what it is I'll love star wars cause star wars are star wars brand and franchise and consumer and consume and I would have killed many a boathen or a youngling to get to write anything star wars but now I'm terrified of doing this youtube oh now he's one of the people when you mean when he stops being creative well I know I could beat his ass I don't have to worry about retaliation but like seriously I'm not getting bait we called it before it even happened and now it's the second instance being mean makes it so people stop being creative so that's the end of the argument stop being mean it's not gonna work who fucking who about it when it comes to discussing star wars online I have a very complicated relationship when I talk to people about it they're just really negative I feel like you've been getting all of these these candid things from the same group of people I don't know could be that your friends are yours confirmation bias dude imagine if this is one person the interviewer was just like yeah I think it's really good that we have multiple like diverse perspectives on the hatred and the love at the same time to really temper out exactly what it is this franchise achieving and what it isn't you know I think it's a really positive experience overall I think we have a lot to gain from it and he's like no that sounds like I hate you no there's obviously been backlash about the diverse characters in the film fuck up woman why do they do this to me all the time like I don't give a shit about the diverse characters no one cared about Lea being a woman no one cared about Lando being black no one cared about Chewbacca being a wookie nobody cared about Lando Fett being Australian he's no good to me he's no good to me he's no good to me did wow he's more New Zealander I guess he's no good to me did when like they hit the back of his jetpack and he's like no he's just a fucking slant somebody's gonna make that meme it really upsets me as a woman of color can I say oh shut the fuck up woman of color I paused it because I wanted to ask does that pillow have titties on it wait what does that pillow have titties on it are you talking about the one on the left I'm talking about the one with the titties on it on the left oh I see I can see yeah it does oh my goodness are we gonna get shut down yeah I think so oh my goodness someone told someone to eat poop earlier comment I feel like we're gonna get shut down for that I guess it doesn't matter it's really her video but I don't know that Indian chick down there he's got a rocking pair of tits having diversity in casting means a lot to me I definitely does me talking about it more I just can't relate maybe it's because I grew up and my favorite characters were talking space cats maybe they're too fucking young it's very easy to save us is that what you're saying Fringy well what I mean is like when I was a kid it's like alright so because of course key exposure was films like Pixar movies Playstation 1 Gamecube sort of era and very few of those characters were even human beings and even the ones who weren't like me and it never bothered me it wasn't something I thought about and so then when I get a lot older and I start hearing people say how important it is I'm baffled like genuinely baffled I don't understand I can't relate I think it's a form of virtue signaling you know people want to look at saying those things but like it's not I don't like it it feels like we're going backwards like yeah it does I don't know there was the trifactor of when I was growing up for inspiration with Sarah Connor and Alan Ripley and obviously the many of the cast of Buffy but I'm a boy I can't associate with that shit that's not how it works also by the way another reason why I couldn't at all with Alan Ripley she was from the future I'm not in the future that's not happening I mean how could I relate to Ratchet I'm not again a space cat and it's weird why do I like Daredevil more than Black Panther I mean I'm not blind but that never stopped me I look at this guy right here and I'm like I wonder if he just he didn't fight back against his bullies because it wasn't the Jedi way honestly like that but online right like just the experience of actually fending for yourself and being able to like experience some of the shits of humanity so you can get a bit of perspective about what you're dealing with in your everyday because what happens when you're in the environment that they're fostering already and stuff like Twitter if you grow up where someone's saying you're a meanie head is the worst thing you get because how long until those ones are shut down it's like hey you're going a bit far with that hey right yeah culture now so much anti bullying in schools but then you get on the internet adults are bullying the crap out of each other so it's like you got to toughen these kids up a little bit you know let them learn lessons don't tell them not to fight back fuck no yeah stupid or with people who aren't hardcore fans just because it's easier they'll just be like oh hey you like that that's cool whereas asking a hardcore Star Wars fan can easily lead to an hour long debate about Ryan Johnson no you can leave you don't have to engage in a debate if you don't want to that's the first thought you and I have and it's why because of course yeah that's what I mean it's like what are you dragged into you don't have to have a super hard stance on anything it's fine if you don't really care about something you don't have to debate about it and even if you do care you don't want to debate it's fine not to have a long form callback but it's like the Jim Stirling shit with the the things in The Last of Us 2 or he was referencing like so someone makes a claim he counters they counterclaim he counterclaims they counterclaim he counterclaims then he calls them the crazy nerd who's looking way too in depth with it I imagine these people get into debates and it's only like 10 tweets down that they finally go like I can't believe you dragged me into this debate it's like what do you mean like you're a participant I'm just like I'm almost sitting that's what's going on I know you having agency makes it harder for you to pin all of your faults on me but you're gonna have to you got to own up to it one day yeah they just find it so exhausting and when the topic comes up it makes me want to change to another topic sometimes because look at all these pull victims are we just not gonna let you be wrong anymore fuck off this is what I mean like how can I be sympathetic to this this is embarrassing turn off the phone if you can't handle this shit I just want to put out a tweet where I say TLJ is good is that too much to ask it's like I don't know if you shout it out enough someone's gonna respond this will be really funny to me now because I've been reading a lot of like stoic philosophy and one of the key things that they talk about and that is like you know nothing can actually upset you really because you like you know everything's neutral and then you give it value or whatever and as I'm watching this I'm just like you know you guys can like talk about whatever you want and if it's upsetting you you can you can just like get that you know like get that in control well yeah you've got a lot of options here take some responsibility for you the way that you're feeling they can't tweet anything but that I'm sorry but maybe maybe discussions and debate don't owe you fun how about that when did you think that you're entitled to have a good time in a debate picturing another south park sketch where the twitter gets banned and they open the door the sun shines them like they walk outside and then they see another kid and they go uh do you like ice cream and he goes no and he goes and then he figures out it's okay it's like people now that there's actually debates to have about star wars quality well I guess you have the prequels but enough time has passed recently where we can at least admire them even if we don't agree if they're objectively good or not you know but nowadays it seems that they just expect agreement like that that's their as the default they expect yeah we need to agree on star wars but we can't anymore which means it's not fun if we're not agreeing it's not fun okay right kind of telling good all right mel and if I'm podcast talk said all these fucking pussies my IRL friends mostly like the new star wars they talked about it get a fucking spine yeah basically look hey all the people in this video that we're covering it's okay you'll be okay it's okay it's not your fault you can like stuff hugs you are love you are valid you are okay it's just toxic and so often I feel like I'm being told that my opinion is it is get used to it welcome to the fucking planet earth where there's other minds involved and they're gonna tell you that your shitty opinion is wrong but if I was given a tweet every single minute of every single day about like your wrong your opinion is wrong I'd be like oh I'm off to my cave because I can't survive this just fucking hell go to a different tab like oh why can't everyone just just tell me that I'm right that's all I'm getting from this video children bitching that everyone else on the internet doesn't just tell them that they're right also he hasn't restored the bounce to the fan base yet he's only established that it's in tatters and ruined and destructive and harassment I'm hoping that this video will end on a positive note right it's gonna be like the way to repair it is to be nice and wait oh yeah it's really sad that it seems that the way that the whole force of the star wars fandom has degraded itself to oh it degraded itself for the first time in my entire life I don't like being a part of the star wars I don't care the first time so when they colloid and everything that was happening you just didn't care he didn't know it's okay with the way you delivered that one I could sort of hear the tears you know coming this one was an emotional delivery I don't like being a part of the star wars fandom I don't care what you like and don't like I don't give a shit I'm not your mother I'm crying for this you know what I want to be because I'd have to live with knowing I raised such a fucking pussy I would be if he was just crying in the playground because no one's being nice about Star Wars I'd be like aww that's aww at what point do you just say grow the fuck up and act like an adult I feel like you probably said it a few times at this point this guy is the literal definer of the consumer meme like I used to buy so many star wars toys and now I feel bad it's like dude just get over it like don't define your life by yeah you went to some star wars conventions you had a good time but not everybody you don't have to love stormtroopers for the rest of your life to live a life man not everybody has to agree on what star wars movies like what do you want because have you ever like actually considered why so many people are really upset or have you just decided that it's for really stupid worthless reasons well I think if you were to ask me that about them I would say that they have irrationally attach their identity to a brand that they should never have done and as that has gone on for years and years and years it's only festered and become worse and worse yeah it's that problem of um if you if you affix your identity to something which can change and become worse then it becomes a lot harder to reconcile that you know yeah you haven't attached yourself to a principle or a position or a virtue or a way of life at something worth you know worthy of emulation and growth you attached yourself to a product that a corporation controls like that wasn't very smart hey he made it clear it's not the product it's the people it's the humans that are wrong but hopefully star wars is pure tainted by the mortals this guy went to these conventions you made friends okay you you experienced the fandom at what you thought was its height okay but fandoms are always gonna evolve okay and it may right now the fandom is pretty much in agreement that there was some bad star wars movies and you just got to deal with that fact it doesn't take away from what you used to love about the fandom and if the fandoms moved on I mean you're a grown adult go live your life why is your identity tied up in this thing when we had to on get over it when the five of us one two three five five of us when we we get off the stream of course collapse from exhaustion and then we wake back up again and we're not at our computers and we're not streaming and we're not talking about star wars videos we have like a life we do stuff everything that we have isn't hinged on this product in this really personal way despite funnily enough how much people will tell us that's the case it's like your life is stowels we'll be like no actually even when it mostly when I'm on the computer I don't even give a shit about star wars I'm doing other stuff I'm working on a project or I'm playing a game with friends I'm doing something else but I feel like this guy lives and breathes star wars he's got all of his Legos and he's got the fucking franco pops and everything yeah let's say that he made that case clear he does live and breathe it here's an example I love Evangelion there are different things in the world and I think the new Evangelion movies are complete dog shit but I still can enjoy the fandom or whatever it is I can still talk to people who like the old ones same as this guy I can talk to people who like the original star wars or whatever else I haven't tied my identity into every new product in that franchise that comes out everybody needs to be in agreement on it with me like what is this you're agreeing about one movie and you're like oh my god it's fractured we have to bring it back to you no they just don't why does it have to be consistent and everybody has to agree I have no idea what this guy is going on about he's going about his own peculiarity you saw it first hand someone puts out a tweet that has a heart so a nice little woodland creature all these mean people say dumb and stupid and hit them with clubs that's the problem you think what does that got to do with star wars that just sounds like an asshole doing that is that what we're dealing with and then he's like yes it is people why are you framing this star wars I'm just like the conclusion we must ban like oh no almost no empathy in it you're not entitled to my fucking empathy you get the basics like human rights but after that I don't know I feel like you gotta earn the rest you have to work a little harder it's kind of like apologies you don't throw it out haphazardly like someone goes man I was eating my chocolate bar pieces today and one of them fell on the floor and I can't quite reach it you're like oh empathy doesn't mean that I just just roll over and let you win the argument empathy doesn't mean that I let you win he's got one of those little grabby arms and it keeps slipping out of the arm it's a chocolate bar piece this is horrifying I guess his thesis is that the star wars fandom is now just full of harassers but I just don't buy that thesis I think that thesis is fundamentally flawed he's just assuming that because people passionately dislike the movie that the fandom is now hostile to women and minorities the problem is there's no way that he could like has he done a study where he's talked to every single person in the world who's liked star wars and then gone through their entire backlog of their online activity and then compile it to figure out exactly how many are participating in this or is he just like is this what he's seen and what he thinks is happening and so he's projecting it again to a broader scale wouldn't it be simpler to assume that most people aren't engaging in these online discussions at all like the people who like star wars as a series I mean like the people he's mad at like the people who are harassing a lot of these people even if they are being harassers they're not part of your fandom like I rip on star wars I don't consider myself a part of the star wars fandom so whatever harassment you're seeing you can't say well the fandom is fractured these might just be movie critics they're just people who don't like shitty movies there's the lumping aspect because we've been lumped in with the people who harassed the actors a lot over the years it just keeps happening and when as fans do they're like point to a time where Mola rags as advocated for harassing actors like it doesn't matter whether or not they say to do it it's that their attitude towards the franchise encourages people to do it and at that point yeah you've lost no matter what you're done at that point the fandom is fucking foolproof I'm just losing my mind like how do you tie your whole identity first of all you've tied your identity up in a consumer product which was the stupidest thing to do in the world I understand liking star wars and wanting to hang out with other star wars fans but the idea that you need to exist in this weird homogenous bubble where everybody within that fandom shares I don't know the same opinions and views and whatever else on it it's insane and the way he's categorizing this like are people at these star wars conventions and like a black guy walks in and they go hey get out of here we're all a bunch of racist psychopaths now like what fandom is this guy participating in that that is ruled by harassment yeah all of them yeah this one's hiring yeah it is isn't it oh god can't her shite oh really we're doing okay Obi-Wan was talking about twitter and he was right like I said this is a video about empathy and empathy is very hard to come by these days did you ever define empathy in this video um be nice to people well like star wars is empathy that's kind of the vibe I get like agree with me tell me I'm correct that's I just again you know when Patrick Wilms shout on the rise of Skywalker because that happened after this I wonder if you would be like Patrick have some empathy what are you doing I just because I can't help but feel as though you're allowed to shit on some stuff and you're not allowed to shit on other stuff well that's the thing is like I keep thinking I'm like if any of us were making videos about how much the transformers franchise sucks this guy would not be going think of the children my god you're ruining the fandom for these children what are those like the weird Netflix like romance movies a lot of people tall girl kissing booth those are two does anyone defend those movies does anyone say you know the tall girl fandom taunted pieces like no because they've been pre-approved to be hated on we're allowed to do that with those ones and the people who like them they're smart enough to know to just shut the fuck up and like it quietly there's like one fan who's like yeah it's shit it's totally shit oh yeah it's terrible I sure hope they make a sequel so we can laugh at it yeah yeah I think Vito nailed it with like the they're tying up their identity in this thing and they shouldn't be doing that they see an attack on the movie they interpret it as attack on themselves and I have a problem with people who do the same thing with like debating something like I get like if people are not in the mood to debate something right I mean you got something you got to be in the mood for but to be afraid of a debate because you're afraid that you're going to lose and look stupid I think that's a reason a lot of people avoid debating things and it's like I think that's totally the wrong way of looking at debates and I mean you should be taking your ego your identity out of it you're there to pursue the truth right and you find it somewhere in the middle or maybe you're totally wrong or maybe the other person is totally wrong but you find that out right and when you avoid that and you instead attack the very idea of debate itself right I have no patience for that it's dumb because the internet has broken us internet's broken that is ooh that's quite a revealing thing like that's pretty simplistic like you could extrapolate is he implying that like humanity is a species is being like broken by the internet first off speak for yourself I have a great time on the internet I know you sound broken but I'm having a gay all time he keeps doing it though every time I'm shocked still that he pulls out these stupid statements I was like oh Jesus here we go again the internet has broken us oh no the music is too much the music is too much if we disagreed on something it wasn't a big deal because before that disagreement yeah then y'all kept calling me a fucking Nazi because it didn't like a Star Wars movie and bumped it up to the next fucking level so I reject this idea that like fans who would defend an attack like aggressively only existed fucking recently that was bullshit I never called someone the idea that people who hated what was the prequel version like if you didn't like the fandom menace you hated who did you hate I don't know the thing is this gets escalated because I don't make hers it gets people like this if all I have in total isolation is that someone likes the last Jedi it likes the rise of Skywalker I'm just like I need more give me more I need more why do they like it what do they think of the people who don't like it what do they say about this I need more but constantly over and over what do we get you guys are Nazis sexist, misogynist, homophobe we hate women and all that stuff elevates this to the next level and then it gets more heated and then it gets more serious and I'm like well guys if you just wanted to talk about the movie maybe this wouldn't have happened it's all over the place but of course he thinks he's doing the big brain view when I would go as far as saying it's like oh it's very narrow very narrow you're mutual love of Star Wars and you knew that was another living breathing human being standing in front of you with their own tastes and opinions and experiences you had actual context because it's online now as opposed to what context actual as opposed to what I don't need to have a flesh and blood person next to me to get context no you do because so when I say on Twitter or in a DM this is what I really liked about the movie you're like disgusting text robot but in person when I say it oh my god I can see in your eyes that you fully believe it I can see your heart you're real I know you and then you kiss and it's like oh that's sweet so yeah just educating you there you probably didn't know that I had no idea and I think that's one of the main factors in this division of the fandom the internet lacks that context if you see a tweet you disagree with pop up on your timeline you don't see a living breathing human being you see a 50 by 50 pixel profile pic a username I was fucking joking okay never mind he's serious all right fucking joking an opinion that is in total opposition with what you believe in your mind that is the entirety of that person no don't tell me what I fucking thank you shit and when you hate everything you know about a person when the internet boils people down to a name a face and an opinion it makes people very easy to hate what are people if not names and faces an opinion like in the real world too I'm like you're listing these things off and I'm like I'm running out of things that are left yeah the eyes nose is hands feet yeah I know you've named that fleshy bit right in the middle there this kind of reminds me of the shit I used to read on Facebook where people would draw comics about like their mental illnesses or whatever where they would just be like depression is like this it's like living in a bubble and this is why I don't talk to people at parties blah blah blah and it's just like okay you pussy sometimes you just need to fucking like not up and talk to somebody try and socialize and have a good time like fucking out just constantly trying to convince the world like I have a problem and I'm gonna shut myself in this little bubble forever and just please please be understanding I definitely feel like there is a market for the like I'm neurotic you know type of comedy like ha ha I'm neurotic like that seems to be a very common thing a lot of romanticization of mental illness of negative traits like you know yeah and they don't do themselves any favors you know it's like okay cool you want to keep yourself sealed in this coffin of misery like what if you're not gonna make any effort to get yourself out of it and like well if I'm happy and successful then people won't feel pity for me yeah yeah to hate it makes entire groups of people very easy to hate this video this video has only made me hate one person this this people is this it is a very very focused beam of hatred it's not entire groups of people who is disagree with you which is why we need to actively remind ourselves of that context you kidding me these are the last one in this video we need to remember that the people who say stuff are human is this loss of us too yes like the person who calls me a Nazi for not liking Rose Tico like I don't care if it's a dude and he's got a son with cerebral palsy he's like I don't fucking care that guy's an asshole pretty simple yeah there is a human being behind that tweet with their own feelings and passions and traumas and history there's a hundred things that human being loves that you love too this reminds me of when you kill oh shit sorry I did the volume thing oh no but I was going to say this reminds me of when you kill an NPC in The Last of Us 2 and they go like oh no Amber and they try to give you this faux sense of that I know that person likes things I'm aware that people like things it reminds me that people like things well and similarly to the argument we often use to counter that shit I'd be like the reason we find it annoying in the first place is that it came from a person not that it came from a robot why would I care if it came from a robot but no the truth is we forgot what it was to recognize humans in the and history there's a hundred things that human being loves that you love too so just remember when you see some okay so someone who calls me a Nazi for not liking Rose Tico right we could both like cheesecake which is actually pie we could both like that but it doesn't matter like some of the things we like are pretty inconsequential but that one thing that they do kind of overrides all that other stuff you know yeah for cheesecake is a pie you want to you want to help me out there it's surrounded by crust and it has a filling but how does that make it a pie a pie is a filling surrounded by crust basically yeah yeah pizza has crust the crust is the big part yeah that's why they're called pizza pies yeah that's why they're called pizza pies you haven't really you really haven't heard of pizza pies I don't know so it says a pie is a baked dish of fruit or meat and vegetables typically with a top and a base of pastry which is a pizza and a cheesecake no because a pizza has a bottom of pastry but the top being the layer above the there's nothing about a crust here it says the bottom and the top with pastry I mean technically a pizza is a flat bread but pizza pie is a very common term I think it's one of those loosely defined ideas pizza pie it goes back to like the long time ago it was called pizza pie and a cheesecake it has surrounded by the crust it has crust on the bottom and it's filled with the cheesecake portion I am actually fascinated that you've never heard the term pizza pie maybe I have heard of it and I'm just not like over here we have American pie pizza and damn good pies and all sorts of stuff I think part of the problem is for example in Australia the main type of pie is a meat pie like a pie that's got beef in it we don't really like dessert pies are not really and so when you say cheesecake to me it's like a total disconnect because the only pie I know of that's like even a meat pie is surrounded by crust it's not that it's surrounded by crust though the top and the bottom is pastry it's like it's encased in pastry that's like what a pie is is a burrito a pie? what because I'm being encased in pastry because I don't think that I wouldn't say the top has to have pastry on it well yeah but that the definition of a pie was topped with pastry okay so it says so definition of a pie on Mary and Webster is Webster a dessert consisting of a filling in a pastry shell or topped with pastry or both so maybe it includes both and neither at the same time then yeah I feel like it's it's like a on fine cooking it says that a cheesecake is indeed a pie because it so it says it can be a cake but it can't not be a pie what do you mean crust filling yeah those are the integral aspects of it the more you learn EFAP is a very educational podcast I would say that even a tart is a pie I figured a tart would be a pie that kind of makes sense to me yeah a tart would be a pie and if a tart is a pie then a cheesecake is a pie yeah cheesecake would be a tart essentially so the top basically means that you could call it a cake however really it's all about subdividing right and the crossover so like if pie is the overarching category then you break it down into different things that are ultimately a pie and maybe there's a bit of overlap right like a cheesecake is a cake while also being a pie yeah it can be a cake but it has to at least be a pie I see right anything with a crust it seems it would be yes a cake like a cake does not have to have a crust at all and it could still be it's still totally fine with being it doesn't even have to be lined at the bottom with a crust or have a crust on the sides and it's normally iced on the top so I see okay but if you wanted to put cake filling into a crust as you would a normal pie then it would I guess become pie well I guess it's like a pie you got a pie for instance a meat pie like we got here and then you had some mech like some contraption that you could use to suck out the meat contents and then maybe you've got like a pie not a pie a cake like even a you know chocolate cake mixed up in a bowl and then you inject it into the pie it's now just a chocolate pie cake I guess but this is why a brownie would be a cake because a brownie the quote-unquote crust of the brownie is really just the exact same material that's just at the edge of the pan so it hardens it's not actually crust there is a difference between the exterior of the food and the interior like a pie the outside is not the same as the inside you know yeah it has to be a distinct layer yeah it's own material it's own crust material the crust needs to be laid I think the crust needs to be laid down and then toppings placed to top it yeah like you it the bottom is mandatory basically because you have to be able to transport it like in slices how do you pick it up and eat it if there's no bottom yeah because if there's no bottom it's basically soup with a crust just imagine a pie with no base a pie with no bottom ah so shall we get back to the video really I think it's prejudiced against pies to assume that they all need a crust it isn't you need to check your privilege and harassment pie harassment it's disgusting yeah you are a pie racist sir something you don't like or someone who doesn't like something that you like that's I think I fear I feel if a pie had a voice it would sound like this I I think you gotta make a you know there's a difference between for example a Ned Kelly pie would probably have a really cool sounding voice as opposed to I don't know like a yeah I guess there's many types of okay he's like a Jell-O then a Jell-O pie yeah Jell-O are very wobbly and trembling yeah I can see it yeah that's the one you can't make a Jell-O pie and he's just situated on the edge of the table perpetually terrified of falling off the table someone who likes something you don't like or someone who doesn't like something that you like that's another human being so maybe treat them like okay no I'm not obliged to agree with their shitty Star Wars opinions because they're a human alright like if it's my if it's my mom or my dad or a friend of mine like I'll treat that'll be like okay is like you like you're great we're cool it's all good it's a stranger I'm like I just don't care what is the thing that just seems like this video is being nice to people on the internet it's got nothing to no it's be nice to me actually like I do think that's a fair point by the way this does have actually nothing to do with Star Wars if you take his point to be what it seems to be right yeah nice people whatever okay what does it have to do with the dark side of the force shut up god well it's because he's highlighting it the Star Wars fan has fallen apart and now he's extrapolated into it's the internet that did this it's like wait so surely it's affected everybody in which case it's not just the Star Wars fandom in which case why isn't your video called guys be nice oh my god he's actually so stunted that he's unable to interpret anything except through Star Wars that's the lens in which he sees the world I don't realize that I'm like oh no he like literally cannot contextualize any event unless there's a lightsaber involved oh my god full man unless they're a bot let's see Mahler sent you a note give him a note on the on the I don't send you anything all right all right I guess no no he someone sent me something that you sent him but now we're discussing it ambiguously but I know what you mean so we're good and now I'm winking but you can't see me in my glasses so I'm letting you know that I'm winking about the thing that you told him that he told me there's like a vague reflection in the glasses I can just make it out on one eye I think I got it did you get a dick pic oh part five here we go yeah oh wow what is that part part fire well it's more like or quite it's really like wart fire yeah oh now that you've said it I can't not see it fire it's autistic you guys hate it because you're not abstract that's a terrible f wow oh no oh no yeah I actually have the sudden need or sudden urge to urinate so I will be back he used the thing he did the quote no the urge to throw up in my mouth the music suitable though it sounds tragic and failing I like how it's got a full stop behind part five it's not a stent it's really in fact I'm pretty sure it's categorical we have infinitely more in common with each other as Star Wars fans than we don't I'm not sure that I what shouldn't be that big of a fraction of your life I'm sorry I don't like the implication that saving what you love never involves fighting that just seems ridiculous that's why it's such a terrible coin well yeah so what they would say is best faith interpretation is only fight in order to save what you love rather than kill what you hate sort of shit hmm but it's the sentiment it's all about execution and they couldn't have delivered it in a more comical way in the last Jedi well the fact that she didn't blow both of them up is hilarious it's all hilarious dude just the resist we needed all of the resistance melting and screaming in the background as she said it that's the only way to make it just that much better I mean that's what I pictured in my head I'm like so they all die right because it's just such a fun series to watch it takes you across to all new worlds there's a fucking shit ton of IPs to do this shit ton of IPs to do this these fantastic set pieces and it's just and it's just quick it's witty it's got a really fleshed out universe with a diverse cast that anybody like there's people that you can gravitate to regardless of what kind of content you like and then you can talk to other people about that you could literally have been describing one of a thousand IPs there bad to say the same thing he literally just said you can discuss Star Wars there's something for mostly everyone you're like yeah you can say that about pretty much everything such a ringing endorsement these intense epic fun imaginative stories there's something in there for everyone no matter what you're into I think this can be summed up in an experience that I had on opening night of watching the Force Awakens in theaters and there's a little kid wearing a Kyler in shirts and about a 30 year old guy wearing like a worn out Star Wars shirt something like that and I remember he knelt down and looked at his son and said what do you think about the movie and the kid was like I loved it and the dad went you know I loved it too and they just hugged each other right there's like a green text or something they just hugged everything was great also he is pointing again he released his hands from the clasp so he seemed pretty restrained with his hand movements I think they were all reasonable no they are much less pointy than they were before I don't know if this is before or after them but still right there in the lobby of the theater and that really meant something to me at the end of the day we're all Star Wars fans and whether we like the prequels or we don't like the prequels or we like the sequels or we don't like the sequels or whatever oh shit there you go Theo said everyone collapsed that was all that was missing from that story we're all fans of Star Wars and we should all be able to discuss the things that we both like and we share common interest in and the things we don't like we should be able to talk about them in a civilized manner as part of one fandom whether your first experience was the original trilogy or the prequels or the new films we've all experienced something no one else can even begin to imagine what really what is happening melodramatic what is he referring to is he saying like Star Wars is like that unique of an experience that like humanity is unaware of it to like a daunting and tragic degree if they haven't watched it I'm still confused chill the fuck out I'm gonna play again watching a movie is not that deep an experience man like yeah it's a good movie you have not touched the face of god calm down I mean I don't know I'm getting the impression we'll be able to discuss the things that we both like and we share common interest in and the things we don't like we should be able to talk about them in a civilized manner as part of one fandom whether your first experience was the original trilogy or the prequels or the new films we've all experienced something no one else can even begin to imagine the experience of being that's actually that kind of piss me off actually is pretty reductionist towards other films and just stories in general like as if like frankly saving Private Ryan hits me in the fields more than any Star Wars film has Shawshank hits me in the fields more than any Star Wars movie has Star Wars is awesome but holy fuck but yeah Lord of the Rings we've experienced something deep and meaningful like yeah but when you say we've experienced something no one else will ever experience in the history of the world like you I am dying what is wrong with this man is he like doing it in a way that's like it's a specific kind of experience or something because it just comes across as he's actually being like us Star Wars fans we got something other people don't you're like what the fuck this guy is so insane picture him with a child tied to a chair as he's explaining this to him we have experienced something no one else ever will what are you doing hey you know who that kid grows up to be Albert Einstein therefore time and kills Hitler think about that what was the quote we Star Wars fans have experienced something that like everyone else doesn't know no one else ever will what it's terrible all right experience was the original trilogy or the prequels or the new films we've all experienced something no one else can even begin to imagine bullshit the okay well your back rags we're dealing with this comment it's a it's a wondrous one this is such horseshit like imagine it we can't even imagine chances are you felt extremely close to the exact same emotion so I'm pretty sure I can't imagine it I think after I'm not 30 right but in under 30 years I felt a lot of emotions and a lot of different you know I'm the specter not claiming that I've experienced it all I feel like this guy and me I feel like we're kind of you know experienced a lot kind of like no one could possibly imagine what I feel when I watch Star Wars is like okay you're not you're not some special fucking snowflake and you feel magically different than everybody else who's ever existed calm down you're watching a movie I mean how many times we told him to calm down this whole fucking thing it's like the theme I think that's ego talking you know it's like I enjoy I understood Star Wars better than you liked it more kind of thing you'll never be able to fathom the experience of everybody wearing a stormtrooper helmet and talking about Ewoks like yeah it's like I've hung out with nerds before I get it that's like you brush him off you're like okay I get it you're a dude that's fine that's great I know you do to this but yeah maybe one day he'll feel the and is like when let's say you like the best orgasm you've ever had right fucking I'm nothing else in your life can quite compare to that in the same way and then you're like man like a lot of people have probably felt this exact same thing born got better for me after I had Star Wars Star Wars is an experience that only the Star Wars fans can really even talk about because whoa you know those those lame Halo fans they don't know what they're missing Star Trek fans yeah go sit go talk about your little Prime Directive how cute Star Wars though Pew Pew mother fucker this dude has never had sex with a woman because he would not be talking like this otherwise this guy oh hell no it doesn't matter how special you think that feeling is somebody out there has also hilted an unflared chance large size is you're not special you're not special all right let's get over it he is kind of special oh I mean maybe in one maybe in one way he is maybe maybe in some the experience of being in that galaxy far far away we know the exhilaration of flying a starfighter the sound of a cantina in my size yeah terror of being in a room with no I don't think so the power of the force we've lived no okay again calm down calm the fuck you don't know what it's like to fly around in a starfighter the second one was good hearing the sounds of a cantina yes that's something a movie can give you yes I yeah totally on the same page and the third one was the terror of being in a room with Darth Vader no no no calm down we chillax bro he makes the star wars fan has a magic portal that lets them actually travel to the star wars universe like dude calm come on you don't understand it's the magical star wars I've experienced being inside of an x-wing and it was a thrilling experience that no one else will ever understand it really does feel like a kid who's felt this the first time and can't fathom the concept that you're not the first person who's ever existed and thought things right yeah no perspective no perspective Vox is just sent this along and I feel like it's quite excellent in terms of summing up what's happening here yeah basically there is a kind of religious sort of quality to it totally oh it's just you'll know it when you feel it it's very very wishy washy I like the employees into ambassadors so yeah the brand products customers into finata it's all very um again calm down I don't know how many times I have to say it the title of this video should be unappealed to emotion unappealed to emotion yeah that's uh yeah well I like the title now just because you mentioned title and I'm like you're storing balance he's kind of have to tell us what restoring balance means because I think he means everyone agreeing with me is balance dude with an illusion like he seems to believe that there was some point at which the star wars fandom was this uh united hive mind and I hate to say there's probably 10 or 11 at the time he believed this I am sure this has never been the case like well I think the change about the star wars fandom I think the difference is that it's where we are in the timeline is we are in a place where the last movies to come out were when we were really really young and we couldn't have this sort of discussion debate thing going on and then we have the advent of the internet and it rises gets to its popularity now then we have a new star wars trilogy comes out that people can attach himself to so it's kind of all those things meshing mm-hmm look at this screenshot Yoda saying we lived this we lived this what are you doing does he you need to calm down you watched it on a screen he's a puppet I don't like to be the one to break this to you he's a puppet and like the force it binds us together and the fact that our hatred and anger is making it so much harder for new generations to live these expulsions that's appealing to kid thing you want kids to get beat up because it's more like being a Jedi so don't you dare appeal to children when you're okay with them getting their asses kicked the fucking idea that parents are like hey want to check out because I'll give this to the sequel films there's plenty of kids will watch them and love them whatever whatever kids parents showed them like oh my god I love this shit I'm gonna dress up as Rey I'm gonna talk to my friends about it I'm just gonna pop on Twitter quick one sec oh my god everyone's so mean now fuck this I'm not into Star Wars by this isn't happening bullshit and I don't believe it what was his reference for children not wanting to play with Star Wars anymore because of mean people like us I think it's well they're not buying the toy so who knows what they're doing maybe maybe so sucks yeah maybe maybe a thing sucks maybe the thing that you thought in your your your naive youth is the best thing ever maybe it's not so great anymore because I cringe when I look back to my my little tiny child mind and all the things that I used to think were super cool I don't anymore because I've grown feel that same life-changing inspiration is absolutely heartbreaking fuck off oh my god we need to end this video because I'm going to kill myself I'm going to kill myself he keeps doing this listen to this motherfucker in his fucking piano music talking about how Star Wars is some fucking god-given gift to the entire fucking world I'm going to kill myself piano it's unbearable he's gonna do the old veto delito don't make him do it I can't handle any another minute of this motherfucker talking about how he's experienced the deepest fucking depths of human emotion because he watched a guy fly an X-Wing or when the other guy put his fucking hand fucking Yoda's ass look fucking get over it man just live a life Jesus war look what you just said was absolutely heartbreaking yeah I'm part of the fucking harassment and I'm ruining the Star Wars community good I want to ruin the Star Wars community so people like this are forced to go live in the real fucking world just like at this point this man has made the greatest possible argument for taking the Star Wars fandom and shattering it into a million pieces because it is producing complete psychopaths like this moron this is horrifying this reminds me of when Matt Garbo cried when he got his his youtube award and there's no way he cried at the birth of his son it makes me feel like this is the kind of guy who brought like a little Yoda puppet to university with him just to look after him like he was like did I do good master and he's like oh yes you did but only the kids like what the fuck so I'm done with the hatred I'm done with the arguing you're not tough enough to hate you can't hate you're not man enough to hate things he wouldn't touch hate with a pole the hate that slimy sticky goo no hatred bad this man could never play the hate piano like I can oh no that's a talent right there he couldn't play chopsticks I think if he was done he wouldn't be making this video I think he'd be off doing something more entertaining to expand all the definitions he's already expanded to include his video in the hatred cycle right like dude this is perpetuating hatred this is sending people out away being like you guys should learn to be nice or we'll kill you yeah I'm going to be proud of my love of Star Wars again I'm going to proud of loving Star Wars that's weird if you like violence I'm gonna kick your ass what if I was like you're proud of loving Star Wars and I play clips of the younglings getting killed I'm like you disgusting person you shouldn't love this I feel like it's weird to be proud of liking an IP I don't know about that what exactly why are we talking about being prideful of it rather than just I guess celebrating it how okay so when the younglings said Master Skywalker there's too many of them I'm like you're younglings if there was one of them that would be too many of them that was such a weird moment in revenge this is what celebrated and I'm going to accept that I don't own Star Wars nobody ever thought you did thank god you don't disney you don't like since the beginning of him bringing this shit up it's always felt like he was never talking about himself he's always talking about the people he thinks who are like Luke should have been more like himself he's like well you don't own Star Wars so you can't do that okay and if Star Wars stops being for me someday then I'll accept that and appreciate the fucking music dude yes it needs a mass amount of Star Wars films and books and stupidly expensive Lego sets that I still have and will always have so when you grow when you turn like I don't know well I was going to say like next year when you turn like 18 or whatever is that you're not going to have I remember all my Lego stuff I loved him I cherished him and now some other kid out there is having a blast with him it's really fucking heartwarming toy story shit right and then I moved on you're not going to have that stuff forever you maybe save one and so when you when you are 90 you're like oh yes I remember fucking Lego stuff I was like alright you'll move on don't attach yourself to toys I remember when I was 12 and I did that it's alright I'm going to be really funny to show this guy in his 90s this video but you made this by the way one day you'll be an adult and you'll attach yourself to graphics cards like a normal person yeah we used to aspire to be something we used to make art something of meaning and now guys like this are sitting down and this is what they make they cry let them cry this is a tragedy this is a human tragedy people don't want to grow up it's sad I don't want to grow up I'm going to do the same because that fandom that was a force for good piano music seems more intense now the fandom that was a force for good is dying that's what he just said oh um I'm so sorry rip what do you do with this stuff the only way to save it is to stop fighting what we hate no I hate it's so painful stop using that this is the dumbest line maybe in all of cinema maybe an argument could be made especially with the visual that comes along with it you know the sexual assault the rebels being destroyed in the background but man uh no this ain't it chief this ain't it chat I'm just knowing I'm just dead inside of nothing anymore I feel nothing when he's appealing to this is the lesson of today love it's our only hope and yes I know a lot of you think that rose line is the worst line in the entire series correct let's explore why it really is yeah like I said in isolation I think we can do stuff with it in terms of like the sentiment behind it but in context it's one of the most embarrassing deliveries of anything ever it felt like they knew when they did it they were like this is pretty funny it's completely the opposite of what's happening in that scene yeah it's hilarious Finn proposes to attack a machine Finn proposes to essentially kill himself to save a bunch of people and then they all get blasted with a laser and she says that line it is baffling like that line only makes sense if Finn's like god I hate the first order in what they did to me and he's motivated by hate but he's not he's directly motivated by love yeah feels like they missed that what did you fucking think I was doing get off of me everyone's dead now and then the 8080 just fires one shot they both explode into a flesh fountain and it's just like well that was good good job I actually came across a very interesting quote from that $100 out of print paperback book about the making of empire strikes back and what about the conflict between good and evil in the film and empire strikes this is such pretentious horseshit crime dude the focus cycling down on the page the music playing no see the the book was introduced earlier in the video that means it's profound the line the shittiest pay off ever sucks please man just let it finish let's just get through it thanks man actual god amongst humans says well for example princess Leia's rebel forces will not do anything in order to win they will not sacrifice lives they do not that's what an army is what do you mean they won't do anything they did sacrifice lives if you go out to battle and die what is that if not a sacrifice of your life that's basically a soldier's job distilled down to its most basic form I don't know the empire shown is sacrificing their troops lives is that a thing but but what about all the times in the movie where the rebels are shooting their guns and they die in battle fighting against the evil empire I'm confused I just want to listen to him read this quote out because I am baffled right now will not do anything in order to win they will not sacrifice lives they do not descend to the level of the enemy that's the difference but that's wrong sacrificing lives in order to achieve a greater objective is not exactly what I would describe as the worst thing ever besides the life that you choose to sacrifice can be your own people referencing the girl in the opening of TLJ and then holdo and then luke don't they all kill themselves I hate to say it again does this guy know that the movies are called star wars as in a war this bad guy and if this is from the book this is a stupid quote I don't care if the director said this this doesn't make sense he directed the best star wars movie he's clearly very very talented in that field this quote's dumb and he's wrong for saying it assuming we've got full context assuming what it means is layers forces will I don't know what to make of this shit isn't the whole point isn't the whole point of the fight on hath to give as much time as possible for the transports to escape and also in the battle of yavin 4 they knew that some of those guys weren't coming back some of them were meant to be there the more apt one is hath because he made this fucking movie hath they need time to get the transports out so the ground war begins a lot of those people died to gain time for the transports that's what we might call a sacrifice maybe this isn't like a core theme like in world one don't they know that it's basically a suicide mission yeah in fact you're right yeah in world one they do sacrifice people tlj is filled with this shit the sacrifice shit what let's just finish wait we got it there there is the quote well for example prince the slayers robor forces will not do anything in order that's a weird sentence will not do anything in order to win they won't do any action to win what do you mean like they won't do all like the worst they won't go to any possible length in order to win that's not represented in empire strikes back I'm sorry they will not sacrifice lives they sacrifice lives so there's the quote we're talking about soldier quotes here that are more appropriate there's the only one that goes a soldier fight it's not because he hates what's in front of him but because he loves what's behind him like that's a way better quote than that these are all those crows on a warbed yeah I like some of them when you die some of them are really good for me it's not the quote is bad it's that again it doesn't fit the context of what's happening what I'm realizing is we need to know what he means unfortunately because what if by sacrifice he means like literally chopping through your own men just to get to someone you want to kill or some shit like that my very charitable reading will be that they won't use the same tactics as the empire and they're not as willing to like throw away lives in the same way that the empire does kill people who aren't functioning as well as they could while rebels would never do that yeah that is a weird quote though princess layers rebel forces will not do anything in order to win yeah what do you mean when they went after the fucking death star what was that exactly I guess what he would mean it's like they're not going to commit war crimes in order to win right that's you know I think it's interesting to think you know the space the Coruscant Conventions or whatever why can't we just have war with no casualties you guys why don't we just have a public space with no negativity let's finish this video just because you hate huh please say yes oh he never even said what balance was just throw up the page so we can know that it's over hey guys there we go we're done we're done we did it we did it I think you're a shitty person your video is terrible I hope I never hear from you again kill yourself alright let's move on to the next video oh dude I think we've hit our second pot cap almost there's no way it was done so now we get to read the batman v superman current stuff with script right please um I don't know if we you don't want to tie a proper noose because I think I keep tying a shankman's hitch over here you know I don't think it has to be fancy I don't know we'd be cutting it really close I don't know if it's worth saving it for the beginning of three uh well so what's the plan now then well because it's we got 40 minutes of cap left okay um I mean it's only two pages um okay give me a sec let's see yeah it's too good okay it's funny every time what does cap mean what's what's in 40 minutes the stream caps oh is it like YouTube stops it at a certain time yeah for some reason it only goes up to 11 hours and 55 minutes fat cap I didn't know that oh yeah I guess I've seen that before most don't but here on evap right so this is freaking you can confirm this this is the full thing right um there's two let me let me pull it up because it's two pages this this wonderful script was written in uh yeah that that is uh that's that's the full thing yeah so clearly there are three roles being narrator batman and superman yeah I mean I was I was cool with just reading it all very dramatically oh fuck that we got Jesus okay you but you can be narrator if you want if you want the big pot man I feel like I want the bat batman I'll be the narrator all right rags narrates a I'll join it I'll be Superman then you'd be Superman yeah so right so context what you're about to hear it well wait is the so bam of a superman came out and people were happy in 2016 and people didn't like it and uh Chris Stockman didn't like it that much and so he in 20 minutes he uh he pumped out three pages in 20 minutes like three pages of the script for the rewrite most he's ever worked on anything and now now here is your additional context the zinger lion the real kicker to this script was said by him on a podcast about a week before he posted this on twitter when he then said that he only worked on it for 20 minutes now whether he did you know was unknown but the real punchline that was not made in 20 minutes that was lingering up there in the little headspace dude just looking at just looking at this I don't believe he only took 20 minutes making I reckon that he would 20 minutes to write three and a half pages in like final drafts I mean it's pretty quick so yeah we'll try and do it all without even well just as if it's like an actual thing very serious business this is art and we take heart very seriously here on every frame upon alright alright places everyone alright right rain assaults the ground as Batman takes large powerful steps towards a figure descending from the sky the striking silhouette of Superman explodes into view as lightning flashes across the clouds the two beings lock eyes as Superman's boots hit gravel Batman breathes deeply and writes himself Superman shows no signs of apprehension and begins advancing towards his opponent within moments the two colossi are standing inches apart I admire your courage I imagine bravery isn't something you're accustomed to challenging me isn't my idea of bravery you don't you don't know the meaning of the word you've never tasted fear you've never felt pain that's about to change lightning erupts in the dark in sky beat Superman focuses on Batman's cowl utilizing his x-ray vision Bruce Wayne I'm actually impressed Batman remains silent I'm surprised you can find time to kill criminals in between drinks a tiny smirk appears on Batman's face that's rich how many people could you have saved while you snapped photos at that party Superman is taken aback what you thought you thought you thought a pair of glasses could fool the world's greatest the world's greatest detective silent I won't tolerate vigilante justice then keep out of Gotham branding your victims murder what separates you from them don't lecture me about death thousands were killed the day you decided to help the low lives I put in the ground would have hurt good people you nearly decimated an entire population because you chose not to lead Zod out of the city so I should have just stood by and let him destroy the planet the people you've killed may be criminals but their fathers, sons, brothers you've crossed the line and I can't accept that tell that to Zod snap neck fuck god how do you tell something to my neck how do you tell you're not saying it to it it's more like at it you're kicking at something fuck to a rock Zod laying there on the ground you just grab his neck alright in rage Superman tackles Batman and the fight begins the fight proceeds exactly as depicted in the film Batman stands over Superman's beaten body he places his steel boot atop Superman's chest and presses down hard Superman lets out a scream in agony anger floods Batman's eyes Superman's cries echo through the cement walls but soon another sound high heels lowest lane brushes to Superman's side I'll do this stop what have you done to him she cradles Superman's neck in her arms Batman is unfazed by her he takes hold of the kryptonite spear and raises it above him preparing to vanquish this alien lowest throws her arms upward begging him to stop it's in this moment that Bruce has a vision he remembers something something horrible that night the night he lost them his parents insert Martha Wayne kneeling by her husband with her hands in the air begging for mercy from the mugger Bruce looks at Lois and sees not her but his mother cradling Superman in her arms bleeding with him to stop the gunfires murdering Martha Wayne the gunfire murdered her the gun did it the spear is still raised but he's not plunging it downward please Batman's eyes are visible now tears streaming down his face he drops the spear stepping away he walks out of the warehouse and gazes into the sky Martha insert young Bruce Wayne staring at the mugger who has just shot his parents Batman looks in shock at his hand horrified to see the same revolver that killed his parents clutched in his grasp he shakes this vision away and returns to the present the rain beats down on the pavement still Lois comforts her beaten love she glances towards where Batman was just standing he has yeah that was shit well the snail literal dialogue I can't get over it dude tell that to Zod snap neck yeah you defended the city and then Zod came and fought you I do remember Zod yes I remember Zod the smug way the other day oh your Bruce Wayne your I can tell by your face Batman refers to himself as the world's greatest detective that's not cringy as all fuck yeah Batman calling himself the it's it's really funny though I can't get over it I really liked when Lois is cradling Superman presumably it's a baby and not a full grown Superman if it was baby Superman would he have a little baby Superman outfit on so you knew it was Superman like you can use allegories when you let that monster destroy our city you don't have to go when you let Zod in tell it to Zod snap neck he's writing to like Zod spell everything out I do love how the descriptions are even weird Superman explodes into view how does one explode into view exactly what does that mean the two colossi ugh no it why is it so overt why is it so overt it's really funny though he's learned in all of his years he's not learned anything as if his short films didn't already prove this to us he is just devoid of talent he's like a talent black hole hey he put something out there and you are being mean you're harassing him I'm pretty sure that that was what he said like when this happened initially because he got a lot of shit for it obviously it's a really bad well I'm sorry we can't live in a world where everybody praises everybody for everything well the big problem as well is when you go out like saying I'm gonna like amend something that already exists you're already kinda asking for trouble like I'm gonna fix the thing that already exists it's like ooh it better be good now isn't the presence of criticism what makes praise meaningful I would say so because if everybody praised everything you should be like yeah great you're gonna say it's good yeah shocking okay moving on well I mean the knowledge that there is such a thing as bad makes an achievement when you've done something good I mean we talked about it before peaks and troughs right if there's no such thing as bad then what does it matter if anybody ever does anything there is no difference between the green mile and like the room they're just as good as each other there's no difference between the Godfather and I don't know like Transformers 2 this is like pointlessly stretched out like what do you gain from them discovering each other's identities in this moment I honestly think you wrote it because you thought how cool is it that Batman and Superman separately figure each other out how fucking cool is that I guess it's just like actually less interesting because before you had two kind of icons like it is Batman vs Superman bringing their alternate identities into it like there's an extra layer it kind of worked better when they both saw each other as these weird monoliths it made their fight more believable because they didn't understand each other yeah it's this weird thing where like the original might be better and the original is not good because like the second Batman discovers Superman like here's the thing the reason Batman stops beating the crap out of Superman is that he discovers he's human he has a human mother like he thought he was some random alien with and he didn't know anything about him and he's like I don't know anything about this guy he could you know destroy the universe might as well just kill him you know and the big reveal is oh my god he has a mom he feels human emotion okay but if Batman on his own figured out oh he's Clark Kent he has a girlfriend he has a human mom he's a newspaper reporter he's just like an average guy like he would have not needed to have this fight or at least he would have had my old man at Clark Kent from the daily planet yeah the more the more that I think about this rewrite there's actually more problems why isn't Batman trying to kill Superman at any point why are they even talking like Batman has no intention of talking to Superman in this film he just wants to kill him so like why not set up a kryptonite bomb in the daily planet if you figure out well I mean there's a lot of problem well yeah exactly this scene doesn't work the fact yeah this the scene doesn't even work like as its own thing I feel like when he addresses like addressing the Clark Kent Superman glasses thing in dialogue I feel like as a comic book no no like you just don't know you don't bring it up yeah yeah don't mention it because now that you brought oh you thought a pair of glasses can fool me it's like oh so then other people are gonna figure it out now that you mentioned that right yeah figure it out like don't call attention to it at all and also how how does x-ray vision make one able to identify like if you use x-ray vision you just see a skeleton how are you meant to figure out that is you have to I guess he was right I guess he can decide the level of the x-ray right like he can decide what he's seeing through we need to change x-ray level 2 yeah I mean directly referencing the old how come they can't tell it's just Clark Kent with glasses joke is the equivalent of why didn't why didn't Chewbacca get a medal and then you give him this fight between Batman Superman it's good time for a joke really well I don't know if they're trying to make it a joke that's the thing I don't I don't know that that's what he was going for I think it was meant to be a serious scene in which both characters reveal that they're differing perspectives but they do with someone such a hamfisted way you know like oh don't lecture me about death I blame you you know it's like that Rick and Morty joke where he's getting dragged to hell it is like it's so it's all real I shouldn't have let you let me down and I blame you but I mean the thing about I'm surprised you could find time to kill criminals in between drinks that's a joke very bad joke surprise you had time to kill criminals in between all that driving insult than a joke so awkward yeah I find this surprising because I like the guy I seen his video reviews before and I've enjoyed his content so it's surprising it's like this is what he thinks is a good script but you know I would say that his short films are better than that I didn't know he did short films too I thought he was just a review guy I'll drop two bonus pieces of context for you on that he thinks this is bad since he considers this pretty bad but secondly we all think his reviews are awful so oh do you? I've never been able to get through a whole video of his they're only like five minutes I've never been able to get through a whole video of his um yeah Chris Duckman's like he just stays incredibly broad never really says anything is the main thing we've come away from him with but of course he works for a lot of people he's got to be popular for a reason right? yeah I saw a couple people asking about Batman trailer I think it looks cool but I would say that because I like Batman a lot so yeah Fringy was a big fan of Joel Schumacher taking over Batman he loved those two just saying guys I hate to say it but Jack Snyder's color grading is much better than Joss Whedon's oversaturated garbage I think Jack Snyder makes good looking stuff I mean it fits my personal tastes it's just I saw the Justice League and honestly my thing is this is kind of too dark it's kind of hard for me to make out a lot of details with everything yeah the one that came out today yeah that's kind of the thing I mean I love high contrast but it's more like there's not much of a palette there's not a lot of like I don't know the shadows are way more than the theatrical cut though yeah but I don't know if that's necessarily even the I Am Vengeance line yeah it's better than if you said on Batman I think that's way better line did you say this did you say the Snyder cuts out now no they released a trailer today oh okay it's going to be split into four parts that are an hour each so it's like wow holy shit seriously yeah it could be two it's a theatrical cut oh my god and it had dark side it looked really bad yeah the majority of the trailer does seem to be like unseen footage they're kind of saying like hey look at all you haven't seen there's a lot of it there's some new stuff again dark side and I think he looks rough I think he looks real rough like that better not be well I'm not that invested in the Justice League Snyder cut but I mean yeah it looks it looks rough dark side I don't know man I don't know how much money they can afford to sink into the sea they got 30 million dollars they got like 30 million dollars to do this okay what did the movie cost to make before like 500 million pretty sure it costs 300 million when you include reshoots and remember they're not paying the actors this is all for visual effects and like post production 30 million bucks there's not any additional reshoots at all no no no because well I mean no they're not I think the whole idea of the Snyder Cut is that it existed I mean at least that's the story that's been spun but we know that's not true because the fact that they needed to spend 30 million dollars to finish it means that the Snyder Cut didn't exist like whatever it was didn't exist or whatever it was is not what is going to be released next year right but maybe it was all unfinished PG because that's well some of it was probably unfinished and some of it probably was finished but got cut because the film was only two hours long and I'm pretty sure that you know whatever happened in the interim like I'm not I'm not sure I guess I guess the thing with the Snyder Cut is like I'm just not that optimistic that it's going to be like it's probably going to be better just by virtue of the fact that there's more content but I don't know that that's fair you know what I mean yeah it's maybe he ruined it and it's like dude I'm willing to bet that Avengers is still going to be a better film than whatever the Snyder Cut is like Avengers 1 yep and plus Buffy and Angel again you know sing the verses of those shows yeah yeah it's happening also I was going to say we are like 20 minutes away from the cap and there is there is more things to come we are not yet even though we're close to 24 hours already neat yeah so watch that trailer we're going to well we'll take a break and this one's probably going to be actually half an hour maybe a little bit more because I need to walk around and also get everything ready for part 3 yeah all you know shallow vein thrombosis too either one as long as you know those poor veins but thank you all for watching and hanging soon to come to stores near you is part 3 of EFAP 100 we did 2 rags it's not bad thank you all for hanging out with us both chat and guest Arunis we will catch you soon enough goodbye yeah everybody goodbye see you soon thanks everyone bye