 Yeah, this time we can have some more formal discussion. Although I do want to say to those who are meeting this event going down the street to send their event and come back. And then we, I mean, because we're able to do some fundraising for some community people to attend. I'll wait for you to come back. Anyway, so we should just be talking. Yes. I don't have to make an observation. I think there's an underlying language going on above of the people who are running the development process that thinks of people with fewer resources as, well, not quite trashed, but close. And thinks of the people that want to attract as educated upper class. So the condominiums that were mentioned around Travis Park, even our speaker, presumed that who was living there. And I think that that's probably right. I moved here part-time from the West Coast 20 years ago for America. But I still teach in California. I'm about to be fired as a college professor. And I will wait for a community. And I frankly do not want to live with a bunch of rich white folks. That is not where I grew up. That is not who I am. I want to move into a community where I can walk to a grocery store when I can't drive anymore, where I can get good public transportation for a plane, where if there are a pile of kids in the street, all come to make cookies for them. That's the kind of multidimensional. I like to test for a lot of specialists who have not been out for a few years. These are my problems. I don't have any questions to come right now. It sounds like I can be sure that the community is going to be happy. And it can cancel a little bit of anger in my place. I wish there were something I would like to invest in this kind of high energy, in this kind of community. And I would like to be there. I would like the folks who are in charge of the city to have that same kind of value because in fact, the attraction of here over Los Angeles, where you've got to drive the Zillion miles from you and I don't know what to do with this, or San Francisco, where you can't afford to live, or Seattle, where I grew up, where you absolutely can't afford to live, not even in the ghetto area where I grew up. None of the kids who grew up there. I want to know more about it. And I think you folks in the city can help us out. But it's a matter of how to say, all right, how do we put all of us in one pot? This is what this talk is about. I just want to tag on to what this gentleman said. I said you heard about concerns this morning, and my concern goes a little bit different, but I heard the transportation. So I'm going to go to this, and so where I find this is to go forward, that our population of senior growth will be grown. While we talk about the children and our population is going to triple, double and triple, we're in the test of 350,000 seniors right now, one in every five. Over the age of 65, I'm driving more, so there's no transportation, or building all sorts of things downtown, and I'm thinking about transportation, I'm thinking. So I just hope that this group will bear that in mind. Our population is going to grow, it's going to be seniors. The baby boomers are coming at us, so we're going to double and triple, I don't have the amount on my head, the next time I speak in any meeting on our schedule, how many we're going to have in 2020, what the ratio of eight years is going to be. So bear in mind, because children are important, seniors are equally important, and so it reduces immigration, that's exactly what we're doing, we're not thinking about those things. Judith and then Rachel, I find it pretty scary and alarming what's going on, or what's going on in the neighborhood that I grew up in, close to downtown, because I lived in Brooklyn 16 years ago, and it's all that happened there, being about the citizens, and you see, I mean you see like, the whole community destroyed, and people just keep doing push for their out, push for their out, and older people living their homes, and people feeling like they're a beautiful culture. I saw this in Hollywood too, everything that makes that special culturally, not that it's been lost, it's still there, and they still claim it, but the people aren't there anymore, and it's just, it's horrifying when you look at it from a way of culture, and I think in some way or the other it's just not, it's not for me, and I can see it coming, I think there's seen that in different cities, and I feel like you can really turn it around, it's not too late, it's still a good place to live, it's still, it's so affordable, it's still preserve our culture, and our, my name's Rachel, and I took time out from my work schedule to come listen to this, because I'm a resident, but it's a big time, but I'm very concerned that I'm here, know the stories of all these neighborhoods that have changed so much. I live on the west side in the Edgewood Highest D, near Las Palmas, narrowly in the lake, and my name has changed a lot, I've lived there all my life, I've lived in my parents' house, where I taught the children to learn to dance, I'm still there, with my mom, I see changes coming, I see changes coming to Las Palmas Shopping Center, I see changes coming to Elmendorff Lake Park, and I just, I wanna speak up, like who do I talk to? I've contacted my city councilwoman, Shirley Gonzalez, who is a lot more accessible than our previous council person, and it's just like, okay, where's their neighborhood association? I've looked up with the Westside Preservation Alliance, because I'm very concerned about our culture, saving some of the old buildings, because buildings are getting enough down, that's right. So something's coming towards us, even in the Westside, there's talk that, like I said, over the years, we've gotten letters from people, from organizations, from businesses saying, are you interested in selling your house? And usually it's like a second house that we have, but now we're getting it for our house. So I'm here to, okay, where do I talk to? How do I make my voice heard? So that's why I'm here. And we do have a representative district, right? Okay, let's say, I don't know how to say it. Yes, and you're absolutely right, a councilwoman is very accessible in district five. I'm not sure exactly, I'll touch base with you afterwards, but I know, she lives this community, she walks, she runs, she bikes. What this gentleman was talking about, she feels that district five is that community in terms of there, and that's what she's trying to get there. Obviously, you know, there's people that don't agree with the Vikings, we spend a million dollars in those Vikings, not we spend $700,000 to agree with them. So, you know, it's kind of how do you keep everyone happy? But that's one of the things I mean, you need to meet with your council members, you need to let them know how you feel. The only mission, it's a governing body, when it's actually, they're just, they're kind of just their idea. So they may recommend some, so if you're in with your city council person, where you're actually being able to explain the situation, the city council person can pull that from the agenda, they won't want you for it. So that's one of the things that I want to let some of these folks know, because that's part of the process. Obviously, what we had at Mission Trails was, I mean, a huge fiasco, because the city wasn't prepared for all these folks and how are these, you know, how are they being displaced and where could they develop for everything? I mean, council only knows how that was the only noble in the beginning, and then the mayor and district one also jumped on board where, you know, but you need seven votes to pass and it passed. So, but what we've learned from that is now we're trying to get a system in place where we're going to do something like this, is how do we have these people where we're not displacing those? We don't want to make people homeless. We want to, you know, we obviously want to grow San Antonio, but we want to do it on the facts of other people. And that's where we're, you know, we're learning on how that process, because you're right, development services, they're not very friendly, they're very hard to get around. Councilwoman Gonzales has called many of the directors of the department heads over there. We've sat them down, we've explained to them that hey, if we don't understand it, our constituents are going to understand. And that's what we're trying to make it easier and streamlined for them. But the key is I think getting to know your council member and the staff, because a lot of times, the council member, it's hard to reach them, but the staff, we're working sometimes, you know, 12, 15 hour days just to try and answer your questions and get in support for you guys. But that's the way to do it, is get to your council person and get to, and I'll give you some information at the end so that we can touch on this as well. Okay, thanks. I think to speak to your question too, Rachel, one of the long-term questions that we're having to think through as folks who are organizing around these issues is like, how do you get in front of the process before it happens so that, or how do you come into the process at the beginning so that you're not constantly having to react to things that are already being decided and already kind of like the done deal, right? And it's difficult when I think as both, as Woody was pointing out, like so much of these processes are happening before it even gets to the point of it being a public process, so what do you do then? What do you do when, even if you are in touch with your council person or active in a neighborhood association, it's already too late because the wheels are already in motion, so that's the sort of bigger much more difficult question to answer that I would be interested to hear if people have ideas about because I think that's the question we're all trying to answer. A lot of the people that we come in feel tremendous indicted and feel tremendous institutional distrust. So, how do we really engage them? So that's not apathy, right? So it's distrust. It's not apathy, excuse me, it's distrust. How do you engage them? It's really, I think we've seen that, I mean, we did a public process, a public, we used to have residents. Regular residents, not organizers, not a place with any kind of organization, just lots of residents that they do listen. The city listens, the city, I mean, I see it from the inside when there's a group of citizens that are really making demands. They do understand that they are, they didn't have to be ethical and they didn't have to be organized in that way. I mean, I know a lot of it is being done but I really think, I really believe it's strong ethical. Yeah, but I would be the first to challenge that because maybe we did talk about three people at Tobin Hill being a difference but around the Hays Street Bridge there were 3,000 people at science petitions. And they didn't pay attention. And they didn't pay attention. The folks at the Mission Road, they went hours and hours to test them on me as well and people cried but they still, you know, it was a dead deal because you have this number one lobbyist, Bill Kaufman. And, you know, he's made the decision and he's already paid everybody out. But it's truly frustrating. That's why it's not apathy. People are really frustrated and don't trust the process and people stop voting. I mean, and I vote all the time but after, you know, the last 10 years of going with community helping teach roads how the city works and the bureaucracy works. Because there's translation around language of Spanish to English but then just the process. And then you know the process and we're able to teach that and still we lose, right? So I'm ready not to vote anymore. Like, why? You know, it doesn't make a difference. So if that's happening to me, you know. So it's just really, you know, it becomes jake, like you said, it is the one. One of the things that I think we can do and that this is not instead of doing political activism and so forth, but I would love to see a great deal more emphasis upon, one, identifying the viable communities. And two, helping all the communities that we belong to start enjoying that sense of community because we use this word neighborhood but actually, neighborhood, the way most of us refer to it, that is, refers only to the facility and what we really need to do is talk about community building, the sense of those bonds, caring about knowing who your neighbors are, even, for example, and there are ways that we could actually even build this into one of the kinds of rewards that people get from making their neighborhoods better. For example, the community meals, community gardens, community music events, all the things that we need in our communities, that the market is a terrible way of providing. For example, live music, for example, the kinds of things that people experience as being, not just fun, but heartening about getting connected with their neighbors.