 I'm very happy to be talking to Luis Gallegos, he is Ecuadorian ambassador to the United Nations and you were involved initially from the outset in developing a convention for disabilities. How is the issue of disabilities relating to ICTs? Well, I had the honour to chair the ADAC group that elaborated the convention that wrote the convention and negotiated the convention more than elaborate. And we were knowledge about the issue that ICTs are fundamental in the change of quality of life and even the engagement in disabilities. So under Article 9 of the convention, the article goes into accessibility and one of its mandates is to give persons with disabilities accessibility to information and communication technologies. That being said, it's a revolutionary change in the way technology can assist persons with disabilities not only in their livelihoods, in their education and health, but also in their sustainability in the workforce. So it is an all-encompassing issue in which the convention mandates this as a human right and also ITU and G3ICT which I also have the honour of chairing are engaged in promoting what is inclusive ITCs for the billion people who have disabilities. Now, there is a big difference between discussing these issues as able-bodied people coming up with decisions about and talking about noble ideas like human rights accessibility but it's very important to involve disabled people in these discussions as well. How do you ensure that? Well, the dilemma of the negotiation for the CRPD was anything about us with us. Nothing about us without us. And I think the ownership of this issue is of the disability community. So engaging them in the panel we're having this afternoon, engaging them in the knowledge of what the profound complexity of disability is fundamental to know what the solutions of technology can bring. So we need adaptations by industry and by the regulators to understand that accessibility is for all because you're born with a disability, you acquire it during your life by different elements, accidents, war or whatever, malnutrition but certainly as you age you will have some type of disability. And these information and communication technology, the use of iPads, the use of knowledgeable phones, the use of types of advanced technology are fundamental to make a more equitable life, a more ease in your workplace and in your life in general. Do you think it's enough to leave this to the market? Is there an obligation for some sort of compulsion where there aren't very evident market forces that require manufacturers to make products accessible to the disabled? Well, I think that there should be a joint cooperation with this because if a company or a group of companies notice statistics in this, you're talking about a market of 2.53 billion people. Now, when you look at it from a market perspective, it would be a huge mistake for a company that's going into a market to disengage with a future aspect. Now, we have to acknowledge also that regulations play a part in national development policies in order to comply with this convention and comply with the laws of the country. States must be involved, civil society must be involved, not only as disability, but in order to move states to do this. The international community has to be involved, and undoubtedly the private sector and the manufacturers have to be involved in universalizing, how do you say this in English? Making it universal, making the application of these solutions in information communication technology universal for the use of all. Thank you very much. That's great. Thanks.