 Okay, all right, but you could hear me, right? Yeah, okay, good good So I said it wasn't recorded or something so yeah So yeah, so that's why I did like I had I was very proud of what I did because I took painstakingly You know painted every oval circle whatever and then when I got back the thing from my teacher she gave me a D She's but I was like well you told us to do what we like and you know choose the color we like to do the pattern We like I like all concrete all those and fully filled whatever but her idea of You know like he has to be random. He has to be very colorful and all over the place Which is fine, you know, but I think if you're in the education field, you know, please be kind to your kids Especially their first foray to art or math or such whatever, you know Don't don't hurt there like confidence by saying that is a wrong design or that is okay math one plus one goes to two Actually, that could be argued as well But some things are more black and white, but I think our design visual interpretation is a bit more Different shapes of grays and colors so so I think that's one thing to kind of keep in mind if you have even even if you're not in the education Just just your kids or people you're helping Don't tell them this is wrong or right but Give them examples of what it could be different, you know and and And you know and encourage them to maybe say why do you like what they did Which will help them see different differences and different viewpoints. So that's my story. Oh, no, I'm really Going too long about this story, but um, so So like that's that's not necessarily That was in Singapore grade one, but that's that's not necessarily east versus west or anything, but I think there's a trend if you see that more like simple subtle design versus strong What do you call more bold colors and and patterns so even though From the potato incident, you know, I think I like I thought I like simple designs But I compare just my Instagram with one of my good friends from Finland And one thing is like simple doesn't mean That is simple can be also You know there's various degrees So I like simple but maybe more bold colors even though I like this kind of style But when I take a picture or when I put a filter on that's my eyes Kind of veer towards that more so I think a lot of times when you compare like different Backgrounds you do tend to notice a trend or a pattern they may of course, you know Nobody's exactly the same and but there's just differences that we can consider if we are designing for different audiences So So in China a lot of websites Even though I haven't actually lived in China and I've been away from Asia for for a while I do notice when I visit like Sina.com. This is one of their Popular websites is like a Combination of Facebook Twitter and of course news and what not shopping and things like that So it's a lot of tags bunch of categories on top bright colors Of course it's New Year's coming but still it's like bold and The kind of visual impact they are looking for Whereas Sina's own website in English Looks quite different You know Kind of more Mute Colors and even the thing about spring because Chinese New Year's spring festival is like more subdued and less Categories just a few headlines and things like that. So even Chinese website know to They have different audiences whether they're going for the English website or the main Chinese website So again, this is just Two Kind of cultures, of course, there's many different within Europe where so many different variations and North and South America So, you know, there's no time to go into details for everything But just something that you can keep in mind even for one website If you have like two main groups of target or three whatever you define your target audience and you can design accordingly Not just website apps, of course this and so on so There's something or you can just copy with pride Simple works for both Chinese and English So I think what to kind of gather from that is there's no one design that works for everyone but And a lot of times what we think is good design may not be visually appealing or intuitive for example To some other people so design with your interest but also design with your audience in mind So that's more of Maybe kind of interpretation of what's good or interesting design. Let's go to more like Layouts So I when I was really young like before five or six I actually read books with Chinese that went from right to left top to down And then when I moved to Singapore and Singapore slightly more Advanced not really but they just had more books that is like left to right Like like English even in Chinese so When I first started reading those books I thought this felt wrong Of course it's not wrong But it's because I grew up reading books that went from right to left top to down for a few years So it's what People are used to and there's something to keep in mind. Of course nowadays most Chinese Japanese and Korean websites are left to right But they're still like Arabic Hebrew and some languages that are right to left and if you have Websites that get translated to or apps that get translated to these These languages that's something you have to keep in mind And then Like even nowadays you can see I should have zoomed in more but Hainan Airlines It's just the left and the right side of the plane But they actually have the So this is Hainan Hong Kong Hainan Airlines But this is Kong Hang Nang Hai They actually rolled it from right to left So it's I think to an Asian's mind is more from front to back rather than right to left Because that's the front of the plane and goes front to left And same on the other side So when I first saw it, it didn't register to me that that's weird Because I can read both ways But I can read both ways But you know like if you didn't understand that And if you just read the characters you'd be like why is this like the wrong way So it's just something Again like localization And when I was looking for these pictures and stuff I also noticed there was this thing about Horizontal scrolling web pages I don't think it ever caught on but there was a period of time where like you know Horizontal scrolling something different something cool But when you search nowadays most of the web pages now are back to Normal vertical scrolling And There are some that maybe exist Mainly graphics intensive and not text Because if you think about it most text nowadays is left to right So you need a stopping point to kind of come back So horizontal scrolling makes more sense Whereas if I really did have a website that was just full of Chinese characters going this way It might make sense for a horizontal scrolling Because they need some stopping from the bottom And then go back up again And then you can scroll this But the horizontal scrolling won't be left to right but right to left So Just to confuse you a little bit more But you can see that more and more the vertical Version don't make sense because you actually have to put like English or other characters The wrong way around so So now I'm bringing you back again to my childhood Because I like to reminisce about that And to show you how geeky I looked But I know I'm still looking geeky now But don't say that So One was a student long time ago I think I was a good student I like to think that But A lot of times Hang on I did one talk once where I totally forgot to drink For half an hour and I was like after that You were so dry But anyway So But what we did A lot of Within me and my classmates We copied each other's homework a lot Now It's not that we don't know how to do it It's just that At least at that time It's very like results Great and academic focus For most subjects Especially for math, science and things like that So And homework take up a big percentage of the grade So of course during the exams But At least we want to establish a certain grade For our class For homework Somebody's better at physics So they'll do the homework And we'll copy off that person I'm a little bit better at math So I'll do the homework And somebody will copy off It's shared effort Open homework source So It's established that Certain cultures When they think of copying and sharing stuff They may not have the bad intention in mind It's not to steal somebody's work But rather to share knowledge And actually a lot of times we copy from the people We respect most in certain subjects So That's what happened I guess people respect me for my math knowledge And I respect somebody else for their biology knowledge So And well you can see Mostly guys in my engineering college class Anyway So Like I said I've been away from Asia for a while But even nowadays I see like Naomi Wu She's a pretty prophetic Prolific I got the words mixed up Prolific maker in China And even she's saying Like in the current environment Because I wasn't sure of how I don't want to say things that may be Not necessarily true right now Like Original ideas in China Again not everyone thinks that way But there are enough people who think that way That Originality may not be valued as much As just maybe copying something And making it better kind of thing So And another topic is Like it's one thing if You're there in China Is there nothing for a woman in China Of course we can have a whole separate topic on that I know I only have two minutes left And it's also different if you are Non-Chinese and non-female Living in that country Because I know a lot of people say I've lived there for 5, 10 years It's not really like that But the thing is if you're not local And maybe female You might experience different things So just something to keep in mind that Sometimes why They are not necessarily creative It's not because they don't want to be Or they are not At play So I used to work for Nokia So I show some Nokia phones But This thing is probably Like they call it KRL And keep it real fake And gadget So a lot of copies of Phone designs Again I'm not defending Things like that Because I also agree that it's wrong But kind of understand why Some of these might happen So And this is not just in China Or in Asia Because I was travelling in Germany And I saw this lovely sculpture And for me I recognised it as the Sculpture in Finland By Eila Hiltonen I think that's the name And I tried to look for more information Whether around the sculpture Or online But I couldn't find information on The one in Germany Somebody also told me there was a similar Sculpture in Canada Later after even more googling I found a few sources Of that sculpture And then it turns out that The Finnish version says Oh it's a plagiarised sculpture And then The original sculpture Is demanding the Sculpture to be removed And compensation And so on And They mentioned that the artist died Ten years ago Then the Swedish shows Is more method of fact There's a copy of the See by this monument in Germany Okay So it doesn't tell me much But anyway I think that If there's a way to Easily credit the original author Or creator Or people I will be proud of it Of course there's the whole Business or monetary Some things to consider But You know like Just thinking like Sometimes it's copying Necessary the evil thing And if you do that What's the best way to You know maybe you're just Inspired by the work Because the sculptures do look Somewhat different So how do you then Show attribution Physical sculpture or stuff Of course there's also like When you talk about designs User experience interaction And things like that The latest iPhone with their All brand new gestures Guess what a lot of us Actually quite familiar with gestures Because we actually worked on Back in Nokia and Yola Phones with gestures And again So it's not limited to You know Chinese copycats Or that kind of Late in copying But ideas Usage and things like that Can also be influenced And inspired So I think many of us Know this and I think we should I really want to Promote creative comments Of course I think this may not Be the best audience Because I'm sure All of you know this But I like to share this And another reason is Because CC is my initials Carol Chan But really I think Because that's the way You can properly Give credit to what inspired you What motivated you And then who the original Source is or idea is And then of course there's Respect that if the person Don't want any directives Or non-commercial work Things like that And you know Always makes it Making a point to Contact the original Author Because I think they would Like it to Have the knowledge that They did something that You appreciated and You took it and maybe Changed a little bit Improved on it whatever Or you can negotiate with The original author What you can do with it And things like that So To wrap it up Okay I know time's up Sorry So just something to Consider to keep in mind The differences People define openness Differently from the Previous Just the previous slide What is considered Good design Maybe it's not good or bad But just what's more appropriate For different people Different audiences And of course localization Thank you Any questions Yes Okay so the question is When you design web pages To look at different directions But people are told that Most people start from the Top left And that's true Most people start from the Top left And I would say maybe in This day and age That's probably true But again there's still people Who start from the top right Because of the right to left Text So again first define Your audience I think for most of the Things like Software design Whatever We need to know Who our target users Are target audiences And if your target audience Does contain people who Have a different language Or a different way Of viewing stuff Then maybe you can Talk to them And see If there's something You can do to make their Experiences better Thank you And one last thing We have Even though I didn't talk About my project We have some cute stickers For managed IQ And per project At the open source Design booth Thank you for having that Yeah So if you like these Cute little animals Of course not designed by me But some of my colleagues Please go to the booth And take them Thank you