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They come through and they show us a little man This guy right here been rocking with me for a long minute man ever since way back when I met him in LA Me and him sit down and we ain't stop sitting down since man. I told him off is in the building. That's right That's right. Good to be here boss. Thank you for coming man. Listen. Hey, man Couldn't wait for the show couldn't stop in Dallas without hollering at boss talk One-on-one what a boss is talk man talk man, you know, um, you know boss talk is a We've been you know, we've been checking things out. You know, we just sit around and you know We try to do these shows to make sure that we keep everything Copa steady with all the people to view the channel and you one of those guys that came on the channel early on I Had you viral from the moment I met you when I brought you in here I didn't know what we're gonna go on but the Charleston white thing happened Then also the Chris Brown thing happened when I spoke about Chris Brown in here boom, you know It went crazy how people started saying, you know, all you got called out, you know I'm saying and then the next thing, you know, we talking about Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown, baby You know, I'm talking about it got crazy. I wouldn't used to that kind of notarized You know, I ride banks Looking at me and I wonder what the hell man, bro. Don't we know you? I got war That notarized is it's a blessing and it's a sin at the same time you need going through the airport people looking at you I get suspicious because you know, I'm still one crime away from going there man, you know, I It's one thing I definitely want to talk to you about man And I know you you being one that you you knew about you hung around to park back in the days when he was around and Had duties and whatnot, but I watched a guy on another podcast Keefe D now, I don't know LA business But he got on this podcast and he started talking about what was going on with some would park and The dude lines or whoever the guy was in the car and all this stuff started Strumming up, you know different things and then all of a sudden I'm watching the news Well, I'm really not watching you cuz stuff pop up on your IG and all on your you don't have to watch the news It's coming to you whether you like it or not and boom They say we raiding the house reopening a two-pot case It miss my head of 30 years later. Yeah, let me this guy and I don't know Keefe D from a can of paint Yeah, he's in a different era than me, but I was there the night that this happened, right? I was on the detail would I just left? Did a detail with park? gridlock you just finished a movie gridlock and Myself captain Shahid Muhammad out of the nation of Islam, but we had the nation of Islam on Mike at the time and So this guy's zip that was supposed to have given him the gun and I've been talking to a big low and Abdullah that was on the detail and Anthony We were all in the dressing room after the fight. Like I say, I don't know This guy Keefe D at all. I don't remember him, but zip was in the locker room at that time zip left The locker room went to the underground and went to Mike's house Mike had just had a baby his little daughter and they went back to the house off for eastern so Zip from my understanding left with the Michael with the Mike Tyson entourage With all the cameras and everything Where is the picture of him giving Keefe D a gun? now Gang banging is real in the city of Pontyn, California. This is some serious shit. Now this brother Orlando. He's a Southside Crip Arch enemies with the mob Looters part holly hood and lime hood. Those are arch enemies at the time Death row was the biggest thing since mother's oatmeal she'll bought about Almost a thousand tickets for pyros to come to the fight if you're I'm saying any Crip out of they mind if they think they gonna come to Vegas by they sell Orlando's a gang member On that footage, why would he stand there in the auditorium by his self? Keefe D said was three of them came together What was the other two men when he got into the altercation? This thing was a second. It's deeper than Keefe D Ain't the sharpest tool in the shed for one. You dig it. I'm saying so now we say well From the incident when this incident first happened in the MGM Grand They're talking about that Orlando got beat down So when did he meet with Keefe D and the other two guys and get in the in the white Cadillac now? from Compton to Las Vegas is less than 400 miles. We all carry guns. Why would a man waved from New York? Have to give a man from California a gun. How does that sound it logically and Then when you look at the incident, they came out of Las Vegas Boulevard came down Las Vegas Boulevard to Flamingo 662 was on on on Flamingo's 1700 East Flamingo So when they got shot If Keefe D in was coming from Where the club wasn't looking for him and they made this massive u-turn How is Sugar's brims he had to hit the curb on the right side and you came up on the right side Well, how does it and out of this whole thing? Nobody sees the car. It's a white Cadillac. How do you get back to Compton and never get stopped? Mm-hmm. I'm telling Keefe D this out of my mouth to his he better do a snowfall He better do he better do a freeway wreck and tell her because partner your story don't line up Now they don't need you anymore Now they're gonna come up with some shit called Florensic you can't niggas can't beat Florensics You understand me and he ain't sharp enough to what he doing with a computer He came play on his phone. The man is a dummy. What would they be looking for in his house 30 years later, man It's time to eliminate him because this is bigger than what people think it was a move to get rid of sure Sure did not play with the rules that white America wanted him to play and it wasn't why to make this is a Compton thing And it's an elements in Compton that happened and they seen where they could make a move look at the people that profited Everybody that didn't have the story of What they wanted to be here? Frank Alexander dead Michael more dead Bunch around dead all the members in the car with Orlando, but Keefe D dead How do I so I only him still alive He only alive for right now The story going on that everybody believe well Keefe D said he how you say you that's Before and after a fact he got a deal with the feds his handler Who who was his handler was was a deputy DA and he made a proper agreement with the feds because he got busted with drugs He never dealt with Keefe D like that. It was never Puffy gonna get somebody a million dollars and just so happen well puffy know from New York that a killer was gonna go down today and Just so happens zip had a glock 40 To give to the murders, you know, so you have to start looking at logic. How is the year we Niggurals we deal with emotion. Oh, yeah, he killed and then nine months later after Orlando gets killed amazingly the Compton PD go to his girlfriend house and get the murder weapon Brought it back to Vegas and like thanks, but get that shit out of here. No, it's this boy. This that Compton mess again Will come well Vegas blue the investigation noted Gaddafi was one of the hour laws he described who Arm was out and it wasn't no tall dark skin dude that he described Man, we don't talk to the police telling somebody don't talk to the police That ain't got off he did too, right? Because you said this was all applied to get shook out the way but once sugar was arrested and he's in prison Why even drumming it still drum all of this stuff back up But you have to keep you know the devil keep the only way the devil has power is to keep chaos, huh? So you the only way I can establish my part. No, okay. Let's look at how should gotta rust it Orlando never place press charges on him Laws Vegas police department never press charges on it. So how did LA get this in from who told him that sugar was there? Mm-hmm, and the one thing about it the only person in the world that even a gang member it should he ain't never told on nobody Everybody told on him, but he's never told them the DA asked him something to do. That's why he got the nine-year violation It's man. I ain't telling you nothing But we should know who told on him because it should be in court documents. It is It is but we look all the time all over the top of it. Hmm It's like says plain as the nose on your face. You don't want to look at your own nose You know so that incident happened there. It's bigger than QVD It's bigger than QVD way bigger than that man got a room temperature IQ He couldn't mastermind his way out of a paper sack But he better do a snowfall Talking he better tell us a man Who made that story up for you, man? That's crazy because I heard he was writing a book or something Mm-hmm. He can't write he can't spell his name white folks is writing a book when he wrote a book now I don't know. I wasn't there. I just allegedly He got a book deal Yeah, yeah Shahid you keep Mohammed is dear to you because you always say he was on detail for him What are the greatest man's on the west I want to hear a little bit I got we are you always mentioning but we never go into detail who he is I went back and looked at my you know my my my interviews, you know what I mean and You always say he had your own detail here or you was doing this and you know just pretty much Just you know doing what you had to do when you was doing it with him Like who is he and and what does he represent in LA or did he represent LA because he passed right? Yeah, okay He's still representing LA. Oh, yes. He's still Giants don't die. They multiply. Okay, you know Shahid Mohammed is west coast. He's a Was the west coast captain for a Mars 54 Compton, California Are an original out of LA original business man old gangbanger business man went to the Black Panthers Was in 80 countries with minister Farrakhan on the E team love the nation of Islam more than life itself and Brought always was the pinnacle was the of the excellent This man here 90% of the nation that's that's up today It come through under Shahid Mohammed's tool itch, you know Had a Linux Lewis Mike Tyson put us on Bobby Brown Whitney Houston detail A lia's uncle Barry Hankerson had me on Barry Hankerson detail eraser with Vanessa Williams Rosewood with John Singleton, I mean for do it out of Compton just come about the penitentiary You know, I had some of the greatest details and been around the world with this dude Wow, that's crazy. How did he end up? You said something you said you said gangbang, but also He was he was a Muslim, right? What because you had I know I was out of town and it came up and I called about it People questioned the fact of you being a Muslim One that's related to Piru issue the oldest I rule it ever made it was supposed to be this guy Terrence yeah, God, thanks to Williams. Okay Just so so what what and I didn't get to ask you about that, but just like is there I don't know how you would break that down or break that. I mean it's easy to break it down because it's In America's separation of states, you know, I'm saying We don't question gang members to say they Christians. You got gang Crips that go to TD Jakes Church go to Jones no Jones Church, it's just like you go to church, right? You got massive murders that go to church. I'm not making the comparison, but in the nation of Islam. That's my religion That's what I do. That's my way of life Piru is a business. I don't believe in my life that I'm going to Piru heaven. Ain't no shit like that I got it. I didn't I will never get jumped in a game If you hit me we're enemies I Don't have for me and my friends grew up together. We fight other people. We don't fight each other And if it was something for me to do to be around with you, we'd go get at the police kill white boys That's what we did in prison They didn't turn gang members. I keep just bitching your boy. Oh gee Percy and this other guy What's his name do pot? What's the other one's name? It's OG person another one hang out with Charlie do Barry. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I It's it's such a transition in the south in California California we got more the only other prison that have more prison killings in California is New York and that was Attica and they killed 60 police in 1970 and Attica ain't nobody get as busy killing police in California You southern boys y'all killed each other tell me I beat this but you ain't never talked about killing the police Or beating up a white boy or a Mexican. I am brave got this other old man Olden. I don't even think he old everybody look bad for Felice Johnson the booty banded the booty warrior and he's on bragging and you get on these podcasts and you Degrade us in prison system that we don't stand for shit You know I'm saying in California. We made a president all over the world Somebody do something to a black six of them gotta die Didn't go around. I mean we've ramaged each other some people did But it wasn't wholesale. You feel them saying so we have a whole different Politics in us a value system in California. It's everybody against black We don't even have time to have Crips and blood Piru situations in prison because everybody against us. You did them say they now they're into it But blacks don't run the prison system in California anymore. The Mexicans do you understand? They say whoever control the get whoever control prison control the ghetto The Mexicans control the prison. They control the ghetto. I Look at the interviews that these dudes are doing and talking about how they Dp'd and they transformed another black But you ain't never made one podcast that you did a IB initiation of blood Against one of them proud boys or Clucas clan a slap the warden in the mouth. I come from Trojans death row Jeff Matt Dillon a Matasia all of these dudes had a Motor mouth Buford beard all of these dudes had six or seven institution murders Killing white boys and Mexicans not they own you feel them said and they didn't just send me to do it They did it first. I remember my first IB. I Called a case in YTS a little bit and they sent me to San Quentin from youth authority And it was my assignment to go take this dude out in the cell right me and another guy as I go in the cell But when I go to breakfast that morning, they have my favorite food Scrambled eggs and and a big old breakfast roll. I'm eating. I'm young naive. I'm eating with child time comes I we go up in this dude's cell now You got three minutes and 47 seconds to do what you got to do because the gunman is on that back bar When he comes up and if he don't get you in the man locks the gate He's gonna lock you in the cell with a dead man So I go in there and I'm thinking that this is just blouse. I I didn't know how people fight for their life They didn't you just ain't gonna kill a man You know, sometimes y'all shoot and find out you caught a murder in the police station But to walk up personal and look at a man in the eye and stabbing him Oh, it's a whole different dynamic to do with that because he ain't gonna just let you kill him This Mexican grabbed me and held on to me in that five by nine cell and my partner was stabbing it And I start panicking and I'm trying to jerk away from this mess and blood is everywhere And I'm getting scared because I am scary and The next thing you know, I shit on myself. No, damn Had to get up because I learned then before I do anything don't eat before you do You feel them so you see that one didn't go too well I would have thought if somebody At that throw up more than doing that If you drank too much you piss on yourself And you some do got socked and they pee right on a chain when I hit this boy he pissed on himself, man, you know You got BGF UB and You that's a whole nother, but you got a tree top all of these things sanctioning when you go in like through the system of jail That's just like you got it if you believe The fallacy that is California, right that a note gets put under your door. We don't want you that bad If you can't put in work, you couldn't be a BGF. Let's get over there with the niggas and play dominoes and shit Explain what a BGF feels. Yeah, that's why we don't see we being a Texas folks. Okay. That's a California thing. It's all over that. I mean really like it's black gorilla family Let's talk about that. It started with the Black Panther Party The what it did it was the black hand first. That's what Before Doc Dem started Damn, what's his name? Well, I can't remember the brothers names It's the OG's that really started the black hand and it went in from the black hand and the Black Panther Party came up and George Fleta Not Rochelle George Fleta John Cluchet out of Compton. Those are the solid dad brothers and They formulated the BGF the black gorilla family the dragon and they brought that in as a revolutionary concept on a prison element aside from the Black Panther Party was a Neal pop a political movement on the street so the BGF So concept was to search and destroy and That's to dominate the prisons to in 1969 George John Cluchet out of Compton and Fleta drum go they are allegedly killed the police in solid dad and 1970 1969 1970 George's brother Jonathan Tried to break him out of jail. He didn't come to court though And they had the Marin County killing and they shot Rochelle McGee 33 times and didn't kill him Everybody got killed in the band of a judge the district attorney and some so Jonathan was 17 years old when he took over the courtroom right and 1971 OC Allen Jesse Phillips Roosevelt Jimmy James they killed the police and owing and solid dad. They were the solid dad seven out of Compton Wow, so they came came to San Quentin 1971 George Jackson got killed young Nissan Quentin Yard The police killed him in 1971. So that was the building of the BGF the black gorilla family. That's before Crips that's before Bloods that's before pyros They were and before them like I said Captain Shahi was a businessman After the businessman it was the Slawson's the gladiators those do we've had gangs ever since those gangs Crips and blood it was gangs before that. Yes. You what you thought they just popped up. We had When you say you be in no businessman was again you you be in is a part of a Set that they brought up it didn't you be in didn't start till 86 87 You know you had before that it was called they had them for the bloods in Tracy was called bloodline You know, but that was a gang elements You should came out of prison, but those are the gang elements on the blood side then the Crips they had c-notes C-notes What was the other? Get to talk to Melvin about that Because all you keep hearing is bloods and Crips So it's like and all these other gangs like derived from that So like it just baffles me like I just didn't know that there was actually other gangs before our bloods and Crips Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm like I say one. I originally grew up. I Originally grew up my neighborhood was called tree top tree top. Yeah, because all our streets. I'm from Elm Street We were in Freddy Cougar out of there. So all the streets were named after trees Fruit town is cherry fig plum. So they became fruit town the swamps in Compton because it was a swamp over in their neighborhood So they was the swamp area then they had spook time because the train tracks came through 12 o'clock at night And they thought it was spooks right and they had what nutty block was they were called boot heel Because they got the two graveyards in their neighborhood and those are all names of gangs before blood that was before even from the 60s, okay, because you know, even when you think about tree top nowadays, I think about tree top Paruse so I'm not thinking about another gang Well, paruse and bloods are the same thing I beg to differ because it's a good thing You said that because when I was I don't know how much Google is correct But when I was doing some research on it when I think it was who was it Owens and What was the other guy it was Owens and Scott Who they say that started The best right, right, so Lovenson because it was a fight or whatever that cause but the thing is that if those two guys were together Why didn't they start? The bloods together instead of creating one created bloods and one created pyro. No, why did they know the Vincent and Sylvester Scott, right Vincent and Sylvester. They're both pyro is a street in Compton Mm-hmm. It's not it's not a gang. It's a street and all this every family had five or six boys on their street So they were the pyro boys and so once that situation happened and They because start calling them roosters because it was red and they would so we the pyro boys So once they became roosters and the bloods out of LA was in red too. So they associated It was saying you you got different brands is the military, but you've got the Navy you got the army They're not the same already, but they are military The Air Force don't do what the army does the Navy don't do what the Marines do Pyro with 10 square miles it ain't but two sets in Compton pyro's and Crips. We don't have no bloods in Compton, California, right? It's not a blood set in California But it's a blood set circle cities in in Watts. You got 30 pyro's in East LA You got Avenue pyro's in Inglewood. You got neighborhood pyro's. You got pyro's in Pacoima You got pyro's in Pomona. You got pyro's in Sacramento. We got pyro's all over the world So it wasn't Benson Owens who started Vince and Lil Vince grew up on pyro and Putin grew up on so he didn't actually start it though that game They stay with the original they were the original seven dudes that were Put the name out. Okay. Okay. I was just trying to figure it out because when I'm doing recent reading I'm like those are the only two names that they mentioned Right, and I'm like, okay So if they were friends like why did they just create one big one instead of having one big one Because when you talk about fruit town when you talk about cedar block when you talk about Campanella it wasn't like it is today. It was just because you can hear a lot of Crips talking about Their activities, but you very seldom and I've never heard you cannot tell a LA Crip They came in and did a drive-by in Compton Because our streets are so confusing if you're not from there You can't just come up in there and get because everything down Rosecrane is all pyros From a harbor freeway down to the 17 and in the middle of that is Santana block Crips, but everything from one freeway to the other freeway on Rosecrane is all pyros But 135 to cross Atlantic everything in between So if you don't know where you're going you can't go east or north or south East or west and not get your hat brought to you So it ain't many dudes that's gonna come across El Sagana or 120th to do anything in Compton because it's not they terrain But we'll go to their neighborhoods Boston come right along. I don't do that kind of stuff. I got I got Big business with white America. I ain't got time to shoot a white a black man for what? Well, let's let me ask you a question because I and I got to go there This guy's slick. I've seen him on the online talking pretty bad about you and Saying that you wouldn't a real Pyra what just wasn't real he just questioned your your your credibility in the neighborhood like Call him now Call him now. He's a legend He's a legend. Oh, he said I wasn't a legend. He's a legend now Yeah, I mean what give someone the audacity to even speak on you. How how did that even come about? I don't know. I know how it came about but it's been situated, you know Slick a good dude. I mean, you know, just he was just misguided So, you know, sometimes the pecking order is so out right now, you know They say if you play with it play with a doll play with a puppy, he'll lick it in the face That's tough. So we got so many of these young dudes that think that we threw and that they think they can say anything out They mouth this media got people confused It's a I had to change my my my monogram. They call that og Original gangster. I'm a RG a real gangster. If you fuck with me, I will shoot your ass Period. Wow. If you run down Rose Cran and fuck with me something is gonna happen or something gonna happen to me Some people just talk that shit. I'm about that shit really So it's certain things that that go down and then you have to question the people around you What kind of guidance are you getting? To talk to somebody like that and think it's not gonna have a bad result, you know and and so it's Every now and then things have to happen and for force to get clear vision Who you had to learn it's certain things. I thought in prison. I could say shit, you know Got got my ass busted on it. Oh, you know, I thought one time that man I was invincible and thought I had everything together Thought I man I thought was on I thought I was on my swerve I'm standing in there. That's what stopped. I got off the the main line in prison. We just went on to the whole I'm standing in in the Cantin line with my people around me and Well, this white boy Jack Murphy ran up on me and stabbed me in the back and left the knife and ran off. Wow I'm like, oh shit like so just for no reason. I'm black. He don't like me I don't like you stabbed you in the back with a knife. Yeah, then just ran and colored move That's a cowardly move It's cowardly we do what you got to do. I should have been on mine. You know saying wow So I took it. I mean this is in San Quentin Mm-hmm And the only reason I didn't die cuz I didn't fall and when he it feels like a million boats of lightning Shugged me and I just didn't want to die in prison and the I was the police tell me get on the ground Get on the ground. I walked all the way to the hospital and when the doctors when they X-ray, they said if I had taken a knife I just couldn't get a knife out to hit my lung and I'd have bled to death But it wasn't my time. Wow. So you basically what how far was the Infirmary or how far was the place where you had to go shit on like a hundred? It fell longer than what it was I bet yeah It was it was it was it's the upper yard is right here You have to walk over to the rotundum to a section walk through C section to the hospital Then somebody got to open the gate of the hospital So the police escorted me on because I was not stopping they tell me to lay down I'm not laying there. I would think that they would tackle you if you're not trying to lay down Do what they tell you to do. Yeah, I guess I'm glad they didn't tackle me But they knew I was trying to get up out of there. They see the knife in my back Well, I want to I want to go back though. Just a little bit. I want to talk about the difference between See people beef online And they feel like it's okay to say whatever they want to say online They don't expect it to come to no real and that's you know, let me let me fit They don't expect it to come to no real problem. Right now, but you from the old school It can be an issue if somebody say the wrong thing on online I found out I'm not Podcast worthy my feelings are easily hurt man. I say shit to you if you say somebody I'll be buttered So you just can't say shit to me and think it's just over. This is just a podcast I tell the man slick just got what I was gonna give to a whack 100. It's talking about knocking me out Wack 100 and you and whack 100. He can he backed off of you, right? Oh, yeah I mean, you know, he he got his where he wanted to be he be in Dubai. I can't go to Dubai I'm on federal parole. So he gonna stay out my way Wow, but anybody that this that's gonna be in my way, they should Walk tread lightly on what they say to people because everybody ain't like, okay, it's just like I've never been the type of dude and me and my folks ain't been the kind of dude that you get drunk and Fuck you he own good fuckable and they say a drunk speaks the soul of my So you've been wanting to say that to me all the time So we when you get sober we got to talk about that Yeah, it got to be a issue that all men I was drunk. I don't know if we're gonna remember what you said Yeah, it's gonna come back to you just like it came back in a dream But like we're like we're wacky 100 though because you guys never Met y'all talked on them from I remember the recording you brought and you let us hear it and it was some harsh words sick Yeah, could there be club like bridges because could there be like a conversation ending? Yeah, no, just stay out my way. I'll stay out yours It's not me ain't no we grown man we got bigger challenges and I find out that I Shouldn't it took it personal But it's certain things he shouldn't have said I'm gonna show you what this bag gonna do. That's critical in my life You got enough money so you gonna put a hit on me So if I just take that lightly If I lie you to say it the next lame gonna say it or the next lame gonna do it Was that after was with the slick Talk on the internet after you had dealt with whack 100. Yeah, that was so that was afterwards But do you think that kind of they seen you as a target on there? We're like I can go and talk about him now since somebody else did or what's the slick got on with they see That was the thing with me and him because he had got on the show with this brother Melly mail And he started trash now. Let it go then he got on the with like 100. Oh, he got on with Yeah, man, he ain't just so he ain't that you know, they buffaloed But you know, it didn't work out. Well, it didn't work out. Well So basically I seen him when I seen the guy I Seen it on the internet. He was in a neighborhood Talking that's what I see right. Yeah, and I don't know if it was your neighborhood his neighborhood He wasn't in your neighborhood. No, he was in his neighborhood Okay, so I cuz I had thought he was in your neighborhood to be honest with you But he was in there just talking about cuz your name came up on that that that skit that talk that right, you know He kept talking about you. Yeah, I was like, then why is this coming from cuz I always look your name up I didn't know him. I but I knew I know you so I started looking like and then lo and behold You know next thing I heard I heard some things this you got street, you know what I mean? That that things kind of changed on him Well, we're all right, you know, yeah just you know shoot Families fall out sometime. Yeah, but we don't we don't we don't hold grudges here. I rule itself. Yeah. Yeah So he's pyro. Yeah, he's a cap from Camping now Wow, I didn't you know, I thought that would have been off limits. I did I Yeah, but on the internet it can spill into the streets is pretty much what what I gather, you know You're certain things you got to watch what you say on the internet See a lot of these younger people always feel like once you can gotten older You need to like sit down and just retire sit down and let stuff go and I think that's what a lot of these young cats feel because in today's society they feel like that because Old niggas allowed them to do it. So when I was coming up, you ain't got a mustache. You can't talk your Whatever you say should be verified I don't care for old man in my neighborhood was a wine Oh, you respected do because he'd get up and slap the hell out you own that wine bottle crack cocaine took black men's heart and You got 30 years of absence that these black kids and had nobody in they face and Then here you come around you looking healthy and you know you all and man somebody gonna challenge you But I stand to the challenge. I'm good with it If you kill me, I got more years behind me than I got in front of me Wow, but if I do something to you you looking bad in front of the homies Yeah, yeah, oh man whoop your ass like that bro. So pick and choose You know I'm saying and it's our fault as elders man, well, I was just in North Carolina and They had some situations in North Carolina and a little kid got killed in the crossfire and These preachers was let us all everybody go to Jesus instead of going to the street You've been praying for 600 years without a solution Anybody does the same thing over and over again repetitively. It's called insanity, huh? Mm-hmm So you're looking for the same thing. They say if they won't Treat you right. How do you expect them to teach you right? Your Christian Bible put you in slavery. I know you think it's gonna get you out So you sit there with some children That's been raised on San Andreas fall called a duty and you go to trouble. Let's all grab hands and pray Maybe you're out your mind. Oh nigga get back So instead of you sitting up in his church Hooping in Holland go out in the neighborhood every day and stand up against these youngsters if they want to fight fight If they want to die die if you believe in your God like you do I Say in my life my life my death and my sacrifice is all for a lot. I Fear nothing but God and I've been here two little men the things out and then through good and bad Wow, do you I mean do you ever think about like You know these youngsters they look up to you Lot of the youngsters look up to you. They see you on the internet They they look as you as an example far as the pyroos go. Mm-hmm your title everywhere We look is og pyroo og pyroo the oldest pyroo the elder. You know, I mean What can you what do you do to try to influence them? You know to still let them see me working? I hit my streets every day. I'm down Rose Cran every day. I don't hang out with them I don't smoke weed with them. I don't drink with them. If I can't say nothing positive to them I don't say nothing at all. I don't try to tell them what to do. I try to show them what to do There's a difference. So what do you do when you walk down Rose Cran? You just Can you say you don't hang out with them? So what do you do drive up to the park intimidate a couple of niggas? Right man, you still on Rose Cran more you did where I'm gonna go where I'm gonna go You know, it's if you keep on feeding them. They start looking like you Yeah, you know, so all you got to do is see them. Okay, this dude been through this if more can do it anybody can I'm not out smoking crack. I'm not talking about what the money I spent in 1978 most of these kids wasn't born in him, but I'm a homeowner. I Drive a nice car. I do what I do. I don't hang out. I don't misinform you I don't try to have you selling dope. I don't take you on no jacks. I Don't do a lot of talking because I'm not a politician But when you see me Like you said man, and it's so crazy in my neighborhood like you say everybody around Then see they act like I've never been like I'm nobody The ones clearly like they talk about Jesus or right there in his own neighborhood. He's just a carpenter son But every Crip OG man, I like I took Before you got more it was great. I'm like man. What the hell man managers. They probably saw you on there You didn't see me. Oh, no damn internet We go to funday Sunday. Yeah, I look I see crews in blue looking at me. I'm like man. What the hell I do Hey, man, oh, gee. Yeah, we saw we like what you doing Pirates door embrace me like that. Mm-hmm. Wow. They hold their nuts on me like fuck boy. Well, why you think that's so Because nobody everybody want to be the better Don't nobody have talked more. Hey, what are you from? Hey, what do you do? Where he from? I think I was in Compton for any y'all was born The whole plantation belonged to me. Well, I earned it But a lot of them haven't even been able to live this long to be able to talk about it And then I'm the oldest one the oldest one odd the only one that speaks volume When you start when you do this when he went Check my record They'd be asking you that all the time Amongst each other. Mm-hmm. They don't ask you Man more so and so said a third person They want to know You say you from fruit time, but you always talk about tree tops and you say this and So I have to give them the explanation How did the metamorphosis from the the caterpillar grew up into the butterfly? But if you've been where you've been for as long as you've been living they should know go ask their daddy grandpa somebody Older so they can you know know they don't need to date these kids doing if it's not if it doesn't come up on the internet And they phones they don't ask nobody you guys I move the last time we talked about you When the guy got ran over and shook without that I seen that video before he was on there I didn't see that video. It's a video of that online Okay, and it shows you I seen you in the street. I mean, you know, it shows you pulling somebody out of something I just remember seeing it like that day had to be to make, you know The internet like that had to be a heck of a day That's a sugar night day. You know I'm saying, but there's just something but sugar He was the type of guy that Get itself in trouble. That was that that wasn't purposely done though. Was it? No So What was the accident? It was an accident So what caused the whole situation? Hey Same situation happened in 1996 What do you mean what happened in 1996? You tell my way park Chug was there too, what? Yeah. Okay. He was the actual target. Oh Okay Was it a guy bone or something there? but I might have let's do it. Yeah I Just know it was a it was a hell of a day. That's all yeah I just know I seen when I when I had seen the it's unfortunate, you know, the stuff that happened with sugar But it Man, you know, I'm telling you it's a video out there that video shows online everywhere. Mm-hmm got views Yeah, yeah, they got views. I got your views But I think it's because I think it's like the news it made news it made headline news that that was a hell of an incident Oh, yeah, it was when I started looking I was I'm gonna ask him about this one I'm looking up everything that has your name attached to it, you know, and that's one of the things that got your name attached to it Yeah, it was a situation to to the attorneys one of them got put in prison the other one got his Bar license taken from him So, yeah, it was it went through 14 attorneys It was it was a it was a circus hell of a hell of a day Hell of a day. So when you when you look at the way these The the celebrities come to California a lot of California has a reputation For people getting jacked getting killed not making it home Is this something to be proud of as has been California Compton, but you think in California What I'm from calm. I'm from Bompton, California. You nobody got killed in bomb. Okay, so could the chicken away? Yeah, the chicken thing and right now they going through a lot up there I see now on the news in the malls. They running up in jerking stuff and running right out I'm not playing that that's just started though Yeah, but but the people that you see most doing that now are clear people They didn't got desperate Darkies you gonna get when you get the wheelchair they gonna stop you I heard they running in like like when I seen it if the malls and everything right going 13 14 D I was hearing they wasn't taking the jail for if it was less than nine hundred dollars or something ain't nothing And it's just a fine. It's what I'm hearing. That's what's causing the whole was it when you when you go in Louis Vuitton and Ain't nothing there undeniable That's why they say that yeah, so they really they out there bad if they had Nina Marcus They didn't Beverly Hills like it's the thing. That's what I heard. Yeah, but what is causing all of that? Why are they why they feel so bold? What's causing all that Joe Biden and Carmel Harris they at least could this slave master and his Ninny, you know so two worst things could happen, but that's what America, you know deals with so that you you got what you do think because of Joe Biden worked under Obama Obama that he'd be a good cracker Do you know how many slave owners was weaned off of black women growing up and still own slaves So you think that mentality would change and you got a woman that's not a black woman actually What is she? She's what is her mama? Indian or Oriental there. She's not she's not black and she wakes up every morning with a white man So what law does she have with black people? You love who you love huh? So if you wake up in the morning with a cracker how much love you got for a nappy head like me But then once you have children those children is now what? They pecker was to So they're not black 1% of pecker would any of you a pecker would to me. Oh, okay Okay, so what's trump any better? Yes, he was why? He was white and Lily white. He's he's what they call a wasp white owes Anglo-Saxon Protestant Okay, and he believed in white America. Mm-hmm keep it America beautiful mm-hmm Trump was a businessman. He was not a politician Trump is the first president in American history and you can go Google it He's the first president that ever Tax the ten percenters People is making over two hundred fifty thousand dollars He's the first president to ever go into the UN and call out every country that owed a debt to America You're not getting nothing else until China give us our money Germany So when he affected white America they start crying it had nothing to do with nappy is If Trump had if Trump had a wanted to do you realize he didn't financed and helped Most most of the black rappers puffy and all of them in New York when his businesses just wanted to be around blacks But he'd never called a blackout doing his presidency, huh? Mm-hmm. He's loyal to who's loyal to him He he's a real cracker you ever heard of this story about jaco jaco was was a story about a little black boot boy and George Washington was on his way To the war and jaco wanted to come and fight in the water twelve-year-old black boot boy, right? Mm-hmm, and jaco George wants to know you too young to fight and he chased him all the way and said when he got to the Potomac and they got on the boats George Washington told Jaco here you hold my horse until I get back and Winter set in right and the snow start falling in the horsewood horse since he broke away and When George Washington got back Jaco was laying there stood up froze to death With the bridle in his hand And when Washington went back and told about the life of jaco Every peck of wood on the plantation said if we have a nigger this loyal We wouldn't have to worry about anything so they built little statues So when you see the little statue the little boot boy in front of white america They thought their housing would be safe as long as the statue of jaco was there So it was a compliment to black america of your loyalty The the nappy head niggers coons and possums the NAACP and in the 60s said it was degrading And took the monument that made white folks get rid of the monument So a lot of things that happened to us that white america glorified We turn around and piss on them For four years gas didn't get over 300 three dollars and 20 cent Nice damn day dollars in california Right, so the only thing that biden has done in his presidency. He didn't been the more drive by funerals than any president in america Hmm. He's at every shooting it is Do you think america should have a cap on how on aged wise of How old you can be i think america should have a cap They shouldn't have supreme court justices in there for the life sentence. They shouldn't have these senators That's eating up all they're cutting your taxes, but they're making three four five hundred thousand dollars a year Mm-hmm, but they said we're cutting back and we we have uh The seat the debt ceiling so being political. I mean that's something all together different. Let me ask of course I'm gonna go back to the music a little bit. Um You was locked up for at one time. What was the longest spell that you was locked up 15 years 15 years? Um bg with uh Cash money. He just come home. It's been he was gone for 11 years Bg, um, I just heard about it is an artist, right? Um Just coming home after all those years when you came home How was it readjusting and and and just trying to understand Just how to move around with the differences that had happened in technology even in that time from the difference when I came home I had never been to a mall before okay, and I I went to a mall. It was the del almo mall and In prison everything is clockwise When you go here everybody's going if you going against you you getting killed are you killing somebody? So your life is clockwise So everything isn't you have a bail to wake up to go to breakfast You got a bail to go to child. You got a bail to go change your laundry You got a bail is and everybody gets up on a rhythmic time In america y'all don't do that I wake up in the morning five o'clock in the morning. My mother them still sleep I'm just sitting there. What the fuck where's chow at? So it's a whole even with a foundation and I had a foundation It's an adjustment You got a routine your celly coming he's come to the cell y'all walking tubes going to the chow hall everybody got a knife And you wake up in the morning in your mama house with a man made knife you You did not do that So I did my mom them took me to the mall and I went to the mall and i'm Shell shocked because pecker woods is walking all across you walking I'm looking around and these people is bumping into you because they don't have the same savage mentality I have that's right Because where I come from it ain't but two things in the jungle Predator and pray And if you're not the predator you to pray So when it's my time to feed back your ass up When it's your time to feed back my ass up But on the streets you bump into shit, huh? That's the american way, but people that's just like psp with his psd Soldiers psd psd coming from iraq and iran same prison theory They've been locked on murder doing this and doing that and then they come here and you holler at him And you're not and you're not supposed to get killed Wow, so california they start seeing that They have what they call decompression chambers. You just can't come out of a high-level prison And come go to the street. You have to go down and get decompressed Depends 90 days six months a year whatever it takes you i'm when I first came from sanguine They send me to cmcs cmcs is like a house They got a bunch of rats there They got a bunch of weird queers and steers And I mean he had homosexuals and sanguine, but they was killers too You know what i'm saying then you got dudes you got come I get the cmcs I get down there and Dude walking in the chile and this dude holler. Hey officer. He cut the line. What the hell is this? Really I said man, what did he just tell on this dude? Oh, man, that ain't nothing. It ain't nothing. I was there about a week I went to the council. I said brah. I can't stay here. Send me. He said brah If you can't make it here, you'll never make it on the street. Oh dang And that was your decompression camp right there. Yeah Wow, so did you stay after he said that or did he had did you take I stood I stayed How long did you stay for I stayed there about I think I was stayed in cmcs about a year a year Did you get used to it? Yeah, you know You were just but like I said, I had a structure. I had a system I I didn't live off of prison prison lived off of me. I had a visit every week Right My mom came to see me when I was in sang every month. I get a visit Unless I was in the hall or something like that So it was a but when a person has nothing I got one of my one of my homeboys Bozzie Bozzie been locked up since 1968. Don't have nobody visiting him. There's some others. They're all his families dead And dudes man Bozzie tripping. He used Boys like women now He don't he went to prison at 16. He never had a girl for him Wow Does that help when you have people like from you know outside society coming to visit? Yeah, it's it's uh It's a balance, you know, it Once once you get it and you get focused prison shouldn't be something you want to live in all your life A man told me one time he said kids you around here running around stabbing people anybody like the penitentiary like shit Throwing they face Wow But you have people who push their loved ones Away for the main fact that they don't want them coming down to the prisons every week Because they feel like they're putting their life on hold with certain ramifications. It's a humiliation In prison that you come to visit me and they make you take your bra off. They strip search you Some people don't want that to happen to they people feeling we had somebody talk about that saying that they'd be feeling on some of those Women who'd be coming down to visit man one of my girlfriend I'm in San Quentin She come came to visit me, but she came to visit as my sister, right? And this guard tried to get at her and like he on the street and he like Raining on my parade And so he like me well kind of hey, I want to take you out and this and this and that Come back bam and he goes and tell the visitor lieutenant And that's not his sister. They in there kissing they whooped it whooped it Damn, they got my visits counselor got him put off the yard Because the Ralph was getting ready to be real ugly You know And so the visitor lieutenant was cool like he had just changed his status to this and this and that But why would you do that? Right? You know So it's a vicious strand That you have to go through and sometimes we so not even pretty we just thank you for visiting But it's the stuff your family have to go through I want to ask you because Master P talked about his grandmother going to the prison. So we got a Master P was talking about that when him and see murder was having an issue having issues And it became a public thing where it was being spoken. He said man, my girl going down there You know seeing you we do we love you But you know you for him to turn back now and have a little bit of issues of some sort But just have you ever been locked up with somebody on a celebrity status That was getting visits in there that that basically was you know, like on the level like a see murder, which is Master P brother Because monica That funny he said that about the bras and being taken off. I didn't think about that That's what they would have to you know for monica when she was she goes to see monica as a singer or an B singer She have to go. I don't know the rules going into Uh the the uh angola and all those prisons down there But she has to go through visitation and stuff And I was tripping on couple like man them guards loving the fact that she a celebrity and she coming down there to see See murder Okay, you see what i'm saying. Yeah, but now they have but when I was in prison wasn't women guards Now they got women guards now they got women guards. So it might make it a little bit in the male prisons In the male prison, okay, and then you have to submit to a woman company Which we didn't allow it in san cuen. They brought three females in there Mexicans whites and we clown we talked to so many dick stories They had to put them up in administration Because it was not going down. They can stand up to y'all. No, no not it. They got three chefs We talking all up under your clothes all on top of your mama clothes and everybody clothes and we smelling you girl Yeah, you you real loud up in here should female guards be um allowed to be in it's see Prison system. I can only speak in california. Texas prison is a whole different It's it's I was in uh in tdc for six months and got uh, uh, uh a Bench warrant with his appeal bond and I got Unwelcome guests of texas and matter of fact y'all is the first time out in grace texas since 1969 Judge told me if I come back so much as get a traffic ticket I'd do 99 years in huntsville hard time And I didn't want to test him because I had 50 other states. I could fuck up. I didn't come back to houston but um They promote homosexuality Because a woman you can't have naked pictures in your cell of a woman you can't no Because oh it offends the female guards But you can have pictures of men in muscles muscle magazines. Oh, right? Now they can be all over But you can't send your if your husband was in prison. You send him some pictures in a luggage and stuff They'll confiscate the pictures from you because that's contraband. Wow. That's crazy, you know Okay, bg comes home now he's out and he's uh Basically he has a lot of exposure to a lot of money a lot of things that he had things for you left But now it's even you know, they've been waiting on him. So it's not the same He uh, he's basically now at a point to where he's nobody that they do is it? No, that's next door Okay, so he's basically, you know at a point now. He's home. Um, he's hanging out He's in the studio the readjustment. I think it's going to take just going to take some time, you know His status 11 years ain't that I mean, I don't know what kind of timing I don't know do from a count of pain Of course, but if he Our status I want to prison. What a status And it never changed, you know, I mean all my Compton homeboys We all came in as it was 250 of us for murder in San Quentin You know what I'm saying? The man told me how to lose that a joe Lewis Sturges. He said man, you know in 1974 he said Kenzie I was just looking in the almanac the other day. He said all your niggas in here for murder, man He said I I thought Compton was biggest china Find out it wasn't but 10 square miles. I didn't even know that at that time, right? Wow, and he said damn And y'all going right back to the scene of the crime He said shit when I get out, I'm going back to New Orleans Why would you go back to Compton? Where you committed to crime? Well, you know so it's The status if he was having money And doing things he's probably kept the same status in prison It wasn't like he was broken had to get it He probably had soups and was living the lifestyle that them dudes was taking care of him on a He had a status there. So when he came out, he's on the same level It ain't like he Went to the mud and coming out the mud like he did 20 months in the hole and had a murder and he had to do this So he must have did his time all right To come out all right. Yeah. Yeah, you know, yeah But I think there's a difference when you're in music because when you're a musician You don't have you have something called like an age cap. I would think where when you're not using your talents And styles and things and time changes is hard for you to come out and readjust to it No, I mean, it's just like a boxer go to prison. He keep on boxing if he was rapping. He's probably rapping in prison I don't know what he was doing. You know, he wasn't picking cotton probably You know, so You got everybody is dick hustling Man, you would man on me. Can you get me on me? I got this. So he's probably producing in prison Good Gards just going what want to get what even give him the best job because they they want to deal with baby, too So when you got that plug you Man, the only people go to prison In my little estimate The only people in the south that go to prison at a time Now today is a little different because of some bullshit. Well, they ain't got nothing now, but The only people went to prison at the time I was in print going to jail in the south is broke niggas If your family had any money, you didn't have to go to prison If they knew a white man, you didn't have the only person that went to prison. Somebody didn't have nobody Them the only ones who's getting 60 years 50 years Or if they want to make an example of you you could have money and because That's only in california But right now your money see in and I found out in the south say I grew up under racism And I thought we was free niggas I thought our shit was the hell of I used to watch y'all getting Waterholes put on you in the 60s and we shall overcome the students niggas in the world We shooting white boys with BB guns. We shooting back y'all praying back Getting sucked all of them. I wish I would try spook hunters come and try they did that when we was little We find woody's Sporting good and they had BB guns and co2's and when that started and we started busting back You talk about racism, but I remember watching this movie called Alice. Have you watched it? Alice yes, and it says based on a true story, but this was after you know Racism, I mean it was abolished slave was abolished all of that But then you still had people who were still having slaves out in the country Yeah, because they didn't know no better They didn't read nothing. No, they just didn't have any information for them to know that slavery was done But see the difference between why I'm saying racism Do you really realize why they called? We're in the west coast why they call us southern california Why because all the pecker was they didn't want integration from mississippi, georgia alabama Texas they moved to california and set laws called red lining and they kept niggers in one spot And we didn't even know we thought we was free Like I told you you can go to like you're talking about all your celebrities come to california But you know where they come Encino woodland hills Calabasas certain parts ain't no niggers coming out there And if you are out there you must be somebody Hmm See you a black I don't know if you know anything about houston texas in the 70s is a section called post river oaks Million dollar pecker was lived in post river oaks And the only ray of negro was walking down post river oaks either he was delivering something or they was a maid Stayed your ass in third world or fifth world Do not come over past west heimer You knew the rules Muhammad Ali tried to buy a house there for 700 thousand dollars and they gave him three million dollars not to buy the house And then after that they built they built balair, but that's the difference in prejudice and racism When crackers in the south don't want you around they'll bill you a college They'll bill you a mahal and then you still go to west time or mahal In california, they ain't gonna be a shit in the ghetto and gonna make you feel uncomfortable when you go to the beveling center But you go spend your money you your kids got to go to the movies in their neighborhood They don't put them in your neighborhood So that's the difference racism affects your economy Prejudice the only one is prejudices po patties Mm-hmm I got busted for a drug case in houston, texas. My mother went to jackson state university She had a man by the name of her mckinley was uh a forensic scientist back in the day And he had some white boys called adamo and car and they came and Took me out of the jail. You got $50,000. Yeah This the only time i've ever been arrested and they told me to go home go on to california We'll call you later. No, they didn't make my mama be my wife Came and got me out of harris county jail 11 o'clock at night. That's my nigga That's crazy. Wow, that's crazy, but i'm telling you right now man um when you look at what people think of when they look at Compton the west coast You we know that if we come up there You gotta you gotta know somebody or you gotta come prepared to be I ain't gonna say explore it But you gotta come prepared to understand that there's challenges in places that you go you come to texas has its own situation too or Florida anywhere you go there's bad spot, but it's something about la being one that visits there often to where You look at the news and be like man you just like talking to A friend a while ago like certain places you go you can't just pull up no anywhere You can't go to the park. I heard about y'all park I don't never want to park after hearing you talk about the park. Why would I go to the park? Why would you go to the park? I ain't no way in hell Why would I go to the park When I hear the stories I hear about the park, but the park ain't supposed to be bad do it baby And I say this all the time Any man 40 years old Every day hanging at a park is a pedophile Because children are supposed to be in the park Out of 50 years of gangbanging y'all ain't bought a building You in the way But you go to the park too And shit, I'm socially retarded Ain't no way else to go Basically, I can go home though Yeah, yeah, you can go home. I go to the park to make an example I don't hang out in the park That ain't someplace I got to be every day That ain't someplace we got to meet Yeah, the motorcycle club they got a clubhouse to meet You come to company to look all around you will never see a building that say pyru international Where the pyru's can go and hang out But they'll spend three four hundred dollars a day buying weed And henna see but they won't get 30 of them together And put a hundred dollars together and pay three thousand dollars a month for a building And they could party in the building and make it pay for itself But I don't understand that because when you look at Hip-hop when you look at All these different people you got entrepreneurs man, uh, that's that's out there Making money wrapping and they say they pyru they say they bloods I'm telling you I mean you talked about this before But they ain't giving back I get it but you got these people man You got all these people that rep rep these colors. We see them. Yeah, what is that? Exploitation the same thing white america been doing the blacks all their life And now when you see it you do it too. And if I don't check you on it I allow you to do it Wow, you know, that's how people misinterpreted what I said about chris chris brown tried to do a lot for fruit town Attempted to do but they didn't do nothing for him So I'll grow you You know And I I can't understand that you deal with a celebrity And you don't get nothing out the deal Do Mike Tyson? I was able to buy a house I was it's no detail. I've been on with shahid behind that I didn't become standard Rolex watches all of this stuff You got the game you got a lot of people man. You got all kind of people And when they see who you really are they don't want to deal with you no more Game didn't just leave Compton because it was some shit that happened. They just run him away It wasn't all his fault But when you have disloyalty Why am I sitting in a cave of snakes when I can get out? That's real Yeah, because it's just you just see all the hip hop and all the cuz that Those songs are out there those groups of people that you can go on the internet and see them They're out there. Yeah, why they hanging they wearing the colors. They putting up the sign They say they represent a people but you're telling but then you're telling me in Compton That there is no there has been no building of businesses. There is no in the city of Compton it's no from row, I just told you from the from the freeway from Harbor freeway to The 7 10 freeway. It's not one black now. It is one black business Charlie Pete just opened up taco peats on rose crown in the park Now they own black businesses. We got a lady that owns jack in the box A family that owns burger king, but everybody work in there as mexicans And no black owned family that owned us and more of them. They don't want to we've got Blacks don't ain't no black don't want to work. What about I mean you even got dr. Dre from down there He hadn't what is he doing? in Compton He just gave him 10 million dollars for a school that they've been it's like What can I give you when you don't tell me what I what you need I'm just supposed to magically put it out in my head if you it's just like I I was just telling my daughter the other day about Sacrifice and what she has to do with her life that For every great thing there's a supreme sacrifice If you don't give a man imagination You don't have anything to offer but pussy all i'ma give you get it from you pussy Why should I give my grandmother just told me why buy the cow when you get the milk for free? Yeah You feel what i'm saying? So you have a generation when I got out of prison. I didn't know shit, bro The girls that I went to school with was dealing with old dudes They showed me about new york showed me the constantly showed me I didn't I had the money. I just didn't know what to do with First time I went to Hawaii my my partners we was in fruittown selling Selling pcp. I told them I was going to Hawaii. They thought I was going to hawaii gardens over in serritos They didn't know and when I went I sent a postcard back to my spot, right? And they said man marvin wanky kid They said, how did he get there drive now? We all niggas. They got money man been to prison You didn't know that you could not drive to Hawaii Man, we we didn't know what how in the hell you got over there. So the next year I took down That's what I said knowledge is power, but I'm not just don't seek that knowledge So you got young girls now their mother having given them the part them 40 year old women trying to twerk trying to be 20 like they they miss in Niggas ain't nothing but hope to whoop the wham and they carry on that philosophy down their heart get broke Why should I go to the swap meet with you and I can go with my own boys because at least they're going to help me fight But when you introduced me to the Beverly center, I didn't know nothing about uh, um, this girl uh, Sharon Anderson she took me to um Bloomingdale 19th said never seen a Macy's and It was made company at the time sears in california. I know nothing about a blooming deals Took me to blooming delves and they was doing fall fashion like what the fuck What is a fall fashion? I'm looking they having fashion shows in a store And she's like marvy you like is that cool? Uh at the time I was marvelous marv, right? like what And I had the money to buy it But I hadn't had the exposure You did you know what i'm saying? I you talk about what year was that it's 1977. Okay before you was born a little bit before Whatever bit it was there you were But like you talked about a celebrity. I was in prison in california with a man out of texas named hollywood henderson Hollywood henderson was a football player. That's right, right? So henderson he was out of tola, texas Say he didn't know not just a country boy with a gang of money, right? he said that uh, he was invited uh, um Don king invited him to a party in in in las vegas, right? And he say he was with debbie allen and he said that that that um, uh glad this night gave me head from uh, uh Georgia to memories, right? And he was the man. Wait a minute. He said glad it's white glad his night did what? Okay I was wondering if I heard him head Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, that's what I said. That's what hollywood henderson told me and he was his This is his exposure debbie allen. He went gay. He had had a list of them, right? And anita porter ugly girl Out of the porters sisters, right? And she said anita porters say bra come here, man What the hell he said he had a double knit suit on you could stretch the Georgia Said he had had some rings on turquoise rang steel He had he said he had a stainless steel check around his neck had his whole neck green He said you had the money, but he didn't know what to do with it, right? Wow He said anita porter took him from las vegas and put him in the fairmont hotel in san francisco Took him to sasa leto put him silk draws on silk took that timex watch off of him and put a Rolex watch on him Say I had the money. I just didn't know what to do with it So sometimes you can have shit you're on or somebody got to show you what to do with it Yeah, yeah One of my little homies told me one time we're in the county jail in the blood module and I had on some uh Some bali loafers or some burgundy bali loafers like damn mar with you right in them church shoes, man I see the man said I do you want man? I'm gonna be in khakis and and and and and crocosacks all my life Blood on blood this I'm a role this blood. I ain't never giving this shit up, right? So I see him about six years later, right? What do you got on? He he's to the teeth Damn more man. I got with this old chick man. She took man put me in Man, I'll see what because now you grew I said, but didn't you told me one time you would never do this? Yeah. Yeah Never say never man But you have to have the exposure And our young black girls don't have it. Ain't nobody gave it to them I'm I'm I'm the r kelly the ghetto You know what I'm saying me r kelly say well, I don't piss on people I don't know Our kelly say oh the oldest record. He said I'm the pipe piper of r&b. Yeah. Yeah I said that went over a lot of people here. You know who the pipe piper was, right? Explain, huh explained for some who might not know the pipe piper is the pipe piper is a fairy tale Right is a story tale about this guy this City was having problem with rats And these rats were overtaking their city And he would play the and so he played a Piccolo And he told the mayor that I can get rid of your rats for you because he was a musician And he mesmerized him with so once he got rid of the rats When he got rid of the rats they wouldn't pay him So the pipe piper took their children That's the story of the pipe piper. Wow, but the pipe piper came from the biblical story of Jonah I didn't know that part. You know who Jonah was, right? Jonah went through Jonah did not like the Ninevice like bloods don't like cribs And he ran and God had to go get him and shook him out the belly of the whale they say but he was in the ghetto He was so deep in the ghetto and shook him out And he went to the wall and he was mad as hell And as he was sitting at the wall The tree had started dwindling and died and he started crying and God said do you care more about the tree than the people? And he says I commission you to go in and tell them say Jonah said seven words if you don't repent in seven days you will die And as he was going through the town the children started following him and they started chanting with him And as the children chanted the king heard the chant of the children And he said that was a revelation and he took all of his gold off and put on sackcloth And submitted and the Ninevice is the only race a black race is the only race in the bible that was spared for a time so that's where the the uh The story comes from Jonah and the children and then the pipe piper Wow, all right, and the pipe piper the exposure to the pipe piper. He learned all the children music And he taught them all music and they left the town And the town had to beg him to get the children back Wow, I want to ask you about deon sanders Like he's winning matter of fact He's more popular than I believe even anything that's popping in the fail right now If you really start to look at the ratings of he moved from mississippi up and he's doing a great job No matter where he goes. He's doing a great job. He has a golden touch. I say yeah, like like what do you think about him and his movement right now? Well, I don't follow sports. I rob banks Let's be clear on that ain't nobody from the nfl the hfl Or the nl's ever sent me their package in prison. So it's another form of slavery to me Okay, but dealing with deon sanders the the stuff that I know about him I'm looking at this brother as to negroes as misunderstood as barack obama was for the stuff that barack did for black america That you hear people say Well, barack ain't doing nothing for us. But what did you do for barack? What did we always expect somebody to give us something? But we never want to earn it These white people got us so handicapped. They're we supposed to they didn't ask what biden done for us But they talked about well with through uh barack obama's tenure and Making homes affordable more blacks owned houses in his administration than any blacks since the fifties The home health care. I got a amount of insurance right now through making a medical affordable um The black unicorn factory ipos. He manifested that now Get into deon sanders. I heard somebody made a comment the other day that he left the HBCU and they would give him ten thousand dollars if they knocked out his son or something It get you're gonna get somebody hurt because deon's deon sanders took his two sons And people that he groomed And took them to colorado He had been trying with mississippi And they wanted to fund everything but a program he was putting money out of his pockets For mississippi and they didn't appreciate him. We don't appreciate the people that do for us And then when we go someplace else you call us a sellout Us i'm not saying us because i don't play i can't even throw a baseball So let's get it straight But i'm saying The amazing job that deon sanders doing with a black squad. I understand this is quarterback as a black one Is it so that's his son. So he's in colorado In a Mormon state Putting it down and black people won't Stand up on that. He was mississippi didn't stand with him Louisiana didn't stand with him texas didn't stand with him, but everybody got something to say about him So all these coupons that ain't doing nothing That ain't brought a team to nothing ain't brought nobody up You don't you can't represent 10 people that you made an improvement with Deon sanders is making improvements that i'm not inclined with sports But you just you said the day that he got a million dollars from selling glasses must be Yeah, he just did that everybody in one day in one day, you know, it's just like we were talking about Captain shahid Muhammad. I don't want to take nothing from deon sanders and Oh, but i'm saying when we don't want to Memorialize or give anybody their stripes until they dead You talk about marnard the king, but didn't nobody stand with martin Ain't nobody avenged his death either But we talk all this, you know Malcolm. He's all these Malcolm lovers But didn't nobody put up no guns and try to avenge his death, huh? It's just talk. Negro's just talked You know what said the nation of islam under minister lewis farrakhan Wallace Muhammad the anubilage of Muhammad's son lost all the properties of the nation of islam in 1975 The marcus garvey movement was destroyed under the king alpha plan with uh, jagga hoover Cointail probe the black panther party the us all All of the black organizations We've never been able to bring rosewood back. We've never been able to bring Um Black wall street once something's been destroyed with blacks. It's gone. You want to celebrate it every year But you don't bring it back to flourishing The nation of islam is the only thing that white america's destroyed in 1977 minister farrakhan brought it back and it's in full force with no government help every black in america whether you're muslim or not Should be trying to help with the independence. You did it. I'm saying so dion sanders and his football program instead of people criticizing They ought to try to get a black college and let him here to hold black college You know, right? Hey, so, um, man, listen man. Thank you so much Um, how can people get a hold day if they're looking for you man? They just look they can go iatola marv on uh, youtube um potscrollfarms.com and uh potscroll farms on facebook Man, hey, man. Thank you for coming on the show man. I appreciate you man You always give us the stories we need to hear man legend for me. You know, i'm saying you look, uh, They say the oldest living pyro That's his new name. I didn't name him like that. Somebody else could name him I got now I named myself He said he had an og he a rg now It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is told