 I will now take questions. I have here the KIT College of Engineering. Our proposed solutions are part of a big existing system. So, should we explain our solution and its interfacing of which is already existing in our proposal? Yes, the question is that if my solution is going to be a part of a larger solution and if the larger solution already exists, should I just indicate how my solution will interface with the larger solution? Am I correct in understanding this question? Over to you. Yes, sir. Right. I personally think it should be entirely possible. Let me also add very quickly that I am not personally familiar with the detailed nuances of the specific rules of the competition. However, to my mind, it appears entirely reasonable. After all, if somebody has written two million lines of code and if that code is available either in open source or is already available as part of the solution with some ministry, there is absolutely no point in my rediscovering the truth. But it makes a lot of sense if I can add a solution component which can fit in with these larger solution but which provides extremely useful functionality and features which otherwise does not exist in the larger solution. So, if I was to be one of the judges, I will not only welcome this idea but I will also consider this award worthy provided you are not cheating by saying that my solution actually only says connect this to that, to that, to that through these APIs. I have written exactly 27 lines of code and presto, you got something phenomenal. Now, that is clever but that is not useful. What I mean is that while you are perfectly right in suggesting a component of a solution as a new component which brings in with new features and new functionality but that component itself must represent a substantial amount of work that a team of six people is supposed to do. So, as long as you meet that requirement I am ok with it but I will raise this question to Mr. Abhay J. Ray. We will position this recording to Mr. Abhay J. Ray who is one of the coordinators and we will get detailed answers from them which we will post along with this link. Let me go over to Professor Ram Meghe Institute of Technology. Professor Ram Meghe Institute. Yes, sir. I can see all of you over to you for your comments and questions please. I am Mr. Pathy Agrawal, the SPOC of this coordinator. The students are having some problems about the hackathon they want to ask to you. Most welcome. Good evening, sir. Sir, my topic is the lack of information on research and development available to public on a single portal. So, sir, my question is how to face the particular field from institutes database which have informations regarding research and development on this portal. If you find a solution to this problem, please let me know because we are also struggling to find out precisely this information. I am actually working on a larger project from Ministry of Culture called National Virtual Library of India. A colleague and friend of mine, Dr. P. P. Chakravarti is also the director of IIT Kharagpur and his colleague, Professor Das, are working on Digital Library of India and they are also finding it extremely difficult to collect and collate all the information. They are constructing only library information but we are constructing larger information and it is not easy to find the kind of information that you suggest. Unless all institutions make such information available on their website through the links which can be searched by anybody to get this information is not very easy. What you may have to do is you may have to suggest a mechanism for these institutions to design their websites appropriately. But till such thing happens, you will have to be satisfied with whatever information you can get by crawling the way. That is the only suggestion I can make. Of course, there is a larger technical problem which you will have to solve. But as I said, it is a hard problem and if you get a solution, I will be personally thankful if you let me know how you have solved this problem. All the best. Any other question, please? Thank you, sir. Good evening, sir. Actually, my question is what exactly we should mention in the dependency section? That is a good question. My guess is that the dependency section will depend upon the kind of problem that you are solving. To my mind, it immediately appears that if my solution depends upon, let us say, certain stack or certain software components which must be made available, they must be listed in the dependency section. If my solution depends upon some other solutions that have been already prepared, as was asked earlier by a remote center, that I am making only a part of the solution and there are other solution components, then I must mention those in my dependency. However, I will park this question with Mr. J. Ray and his team because they are in the best place to answer this question. Thank you for raising this. We will get this answer in a short while from the organizers. Good evening, sir. My question is I know we are going to get two or three days to prepare our code or program, but can we do it before the hackathon starts? This is another good question. So basically, can you have a ready-made code? So let me just try to evolve this answer. Number one, if I know the problem exactly and completely in advance, then why I cannot write the entire code, go to the hackathon and within five minutes announce that I have the solution with me, please accept it and I will enjoy my tea coffee and I will actually sleep for 36 hours. So how would you respond to that? I would make sure that he writes the code within that 36 hours and not before it. No, I do not think that is the right answer. The right answer I believe is for hackathon organizers to actually pose a specific problem to be solved during the hackathon and announce it at that point in time. Otherwise it will amount to you doing the project completely beforehand which actually you must attempt to do whatever you know about the problem and the solution you must prepare. But to my mind, the hackathon will comprise of doing something special, something additional during those 36 hours which you will be able to do only if you have done enough coding work, enough preparation work and practically solve the problem as you see it now on the websites. But there will always be an element of surprise that will be given to your team which you will have to do during the hackathon time only. Do you agree with that? Yes, sir, I agree. So what I will now do is I will pose this question also to Mr. Jere and ask him simply this. I will rephrase your question and I will say I am the team leader of a team from Professor Ram Meghe Institute of Technology. I hope you would not have problem in admitting me as a student if I apply. So if I am a student from your college and a leader of a team, I will tell him that I have chosen a certain theme, I have chosen a certain problem and I have solved the problem completely even before I come to the hackathon. So when I come to the hackathon, is it all right with you if I just submit that code and I will assure you that my team has written all that code spending a lot of time in a preparatory phase. Will you give me an award if I submit my answer in 5 minutes? Obviously, he will say no. Then I will ask him, you have to tell me what exactly I will have to do for 36 hours so that I am mentally prepared and I also prepare my team members to do that kind of work correctly during that 36 hour time. Is that okay? Good. No. Yeah, thank you. There was another question quickly. Sir, my next question is today we are observing some criteria of that student have all type of programming language, knowledge, but some of the students solve their problem through their own thinking but not through programming. Then is it necessary all the members of group require a great knowledge about programming, sir? Most certainly not. In fact, if everybody is a great programmer, then you may suddenly find that you do not have a problem solver in your team or you do not have a person who has keen understanding of the problem that you are solving. This is the reason why even the site prescribes and I would advise you that you should have a composition of a team where you will have different kinds of expertise. So, for example, please do not make a team which consists only of programmers. If you already formulated a team and all six members are great programmers, that is fine but what you must do is you must now ask each of the team members what other competence he or she brings to the table on the team. There must be at least one person who is an expert in coordinating activity, what you call a management expert or a time keeper. There must be another person who will just keep the moral high of the team. There must be a team member whose understanding of the domain of the problem is so well that if at the last moment some question is raised by the hackathon organizers, this person would be able to answer that question very well because of the understanding of the domain. So, in short, making a team completely only of programmers is not a good idea. In fact, that is the reason why it is suggested that the composition of the team should not only have people who can program but people from diverse disciplines so that they can bring to bear the totality of the knowledge of the domain to solve that problem. So, I will now switch over to the MES Pillage Institute of Information Technology. MES Pillage Institute, over to you. Sir, we are ready with more than three teams. Can we, from our college, can we apply more than three teams? I had a small chat with Mr. Jere a few days ago when I gave that talk on Facebook and I asked him the same question, why should you limit only three teams from a college? At that time, he mentioned that the limitation was on the number of judges and mentors that they could find. However, I personally find this limit very artificial. I am going to propose and I mention that right now I will write to all the remote centers and in fact, all colleges. I am going to propose that every college must actually conduct a similar hackathon where a large number of teams from within the college should participate. However, if the rules of the game today are at the most three teams, then that is how it will be. But I will take your suggestion and renew my request to Mr. Jere that if there are colleges where more than three teams are perceived to come up with good solutions, then the colleges must permit them to participate. You must appreciate that in a national level contest, suppose hypothetically I permit a college, unlimited number of entries and twenty teams participate. But the contribution to the quality of the participation becomes less and less and then such teams will only add to the burden of conduct of this whole national hackathon. That is one of the reasons why they might have limited the participation to three teams. But I agree, three is an arbitrary number. In some colleges there can be as many as ten very good teams who wish to participate. In some colleges to get even one team with the same quality of participation may be difficult. However, we will have to leave the answer to this question to the organizers. But I will put in a request as you said. Thank you very much sir. Right. On the similar line, our colleges planning to conduct similar programs probably in the first week of February on the similar line actually. Very good, very good. Hackathon. Do that. But ensure that a large number of teams from your college participate because this will ensure that a new culture is started in your college. Thank you so much. Thank you. Let me go. Thank you sir. Rangaswamy College of Technology case. Rangaswamy College of Technology. Can we carry our synthetic data along with us? Okay. I will again part this question. My own answer to this will be you have to make sure that the synthetic data is meaningful in the context of the problem that you are solving. I will give you a very arbitrary example in a program that I write where I need to deal with strings as names of people. Now I can synthesize the data by giving the following names A, B, C, D, E, F, P, Q, R, X, Y, Z, et cetera, et cetera. That is as synthetic as it becomes. However, if these strings are to represent names of people then this synthetic data is very badly formed. I would think that synthetic data can be used provided the data is synthesized to represent the real world entities and information related to them. This is my own answer. However, I will check up with the organizers if synthetic data can be used to demonstrate your problem solution. All right. Let me go over to SVR College of Engineering. This event is related to be software but some problems are to be resolved by the electronics controllers. So, we can use microcontrollers or different Arduino boards to solve the problems using the different programs. What you are suggesting is that there are problems whose solutions will require some kind of additional hardware such as embedded systems as Arduino boards or whatever. Personally, I do not see any reason why you cannot include such components in the solution. Again, I am not adequately knowledgeable about the exact rules of the game that have been put by the organizers. But I will definitely get this question answered. Again, my answer would be that if for your solution to make it functionally better, if you believe that some small amount of hardware or embedded hardware is required and that your team is confident of doing that programming as well and demonstrating that that component works very well in your final solution, I do not see any problem in adopting it because after all you are solving a large problem and therefore, it appears ok to me because it also involves special programming skills of programming the embedded system. But once again, I will repeat I am not competent to answer this question in affirmative. I will post this question to Mr. J. Ray and his team and we will get this answer back to all of you. Thank you so much. Let me go over to School of Management Science Center number 1247 Hello sir, good evening sir my question is should every statement contents of bandwidth based solution or any prototype like microcontroller based will be considered. Yeah, you will agree that this question is similar to the one which was asked recently by the previous people in the remote center. As I mentioned I will definitely get this question raised and resolved by the organizers. However, my own opinion is that there is absolutely no problem if you have a component which contains any embedded system or hardware for the solution. But that is my personal opinion we will have to wait till the organizers make their statement on this. Thank you so much. Let me go over to is the JIS College of Engineering Kalyani. Sir, I have a question that the idea I am implementing how could I get to know that the idea implementing is already implemented or someone else is implementing. Haha That's a good question. This question usually researchers ask. So when I submit a research paper, some of the reviewers tell me that oh this research has already been done by someone else. So your question is very similar. How do you know whether a similar solution is prepared by others or not? The answer is you don't know but you will find out and there is no harm if similar solution is suggested by multiple teams. After all you are solving the same problem and therefore it is possible that somebody else is following your line of solution also. Do not think personally that there is any problem in the hackathon. Your team will come up with that approach. Some other team will also come up with that approach. You will not know whether somebody else is doing the same thing or not but you need not know. However, you will find out after the solutions are presented and both of you will come to know about each other. You can work out the details later but there is no mechanism to find out how others are solving the problem because till such point that they actually present the solution it will be known only to them just as your solution is known only to you. Who will take the responsibility to implement my solution to a larger scale? If I implemented in a smaller scale it depends upon whose solution is finally selected for implementation. If your solution is implemented then you will get the responsibility if somebody else's solution is implemented then his or her team will get the responsibility. However, if you do not win but your solution is on the similar approach you may think of joining hands with the other winning team and together implement a larger problem. Thank you sir. Thank you. I am going over to Valchan Institute of Technology over to you Valchan. Good evening sir. Good evening. My question is related to standard form template for submitting proposal. Recent PPT by you are one of professor they have mentioned that the proposal should include all designs and use case diagram. So my question is how can we combine all these design and technology stack related diagrams in a three to four medium pages? Ha ha. It is a good question. If you expect me to give lot of details then how can I fit them into three or four pages? This may be a test in precy writing for example. So I do not know whether the organizers wanted to judge whether you can write a good precy short precy for the long answer. But this was is this a requirement I have not seen the requirements on that smart India hackathon. But to answer another angle to this this could also be an exercise to think about including a designer in your team maybe so that you can write things and the designer can convert that into images, graphs, flowcharts and save on your paragraphs of writing at times. So there could be various reasons of this. So effectively I am giving two answers to your question. One answer which Dr. Sameer Sahasrabudde gave which is that you should include a designer in your team or you should have advice from a designer who can convert a long multiple description of something into a simple enough diagram or flowchart. The second thing is I will check up with the organizers again whether you are permitted to attach additional information as annexures to the main template that you need to submit. However, you will have to go by whatever the organizers have stipulated. If they have said only 3 to 4 pages then you will have to limit yourself to those 3 to 4 pages. I am tempted to share with you another anecdote which occurred again more than 15-20 years ago when I was asked to chair a session with about 60 startup companies wanting to make a brief presentation and the session was to be attended by venture capitalists who would like to discuss the finalist of this presentation for the actual idea for funding up to 20 lakh rupees. I was hard pressed to conduct this presentation so I stipulated the following rule that every presentation will comprise of exactly one slide it must not be a PPT but it must be a hand written slide on a plastic sheet I will arrange for an overhead projector and you will get exactly 3 minutes to present your idea on one slide many people objected saying how can I present my brilliant ideas in only 3 minutes and my answer to that was the venture capitalists who are going to sit there are going to judge you also by your ability to interest them and if you cannot raise interest in their minds in 3 minutes then you will not get 30 minutes or 3 hours with them at all so your ability to convey everything that you need to convey make it attractive and do it in a very short communication is also an important ability perhaps the organizers want to test this of course they are giving you much more than one slide and they are giving you much more than 3 minutes equivalent of writing material I think you should be able to do that however as I said I will raise this question to the organizers again and ask them to issue either a clarification or a substantiation saying that this is exactly what they expect you to do and as Dr. Sahasrabut they said either a designer or a good technical writer should be part of your team ask someone to become that person by learning about how to compress your presentation without missing out on any significant detail and yet providing enough information in a precise form so that is also an exercise in itself alright. Thank you sir Thank you R C Patel Institute Hello sir my name is Vaishnav Mundada I would like to ask you if you want to make any kind of model short model and if we are short with the components or any kind of stationery will it be provided by you Well when you ask me whether will it be provided by you you are assuming that I am part of the organization team as I have amplified I am not I am actually a supporter of the great scheme and as a teacher in IIT Bombay I thought I will engage with students separately so that they can articulate such questions which I can combine and send to the organizers but let me give you my answer to it if your solution requires some stationery items which are very peculiar why you should not bring those items with you after all there are going to be hundreds of teams which are going to come to various cities and so on now if I am the organizer and if I have to cater to such individual requirements of every team will I be able to manage that at all I think whatever are the special needs those needs must be met by the respective teams only I do not think that the organizers will be able to give you anything more than the space in which you will participate in the hackathon and probably some connectivity and such thing but any special needs that you have so I do not suggest that you carry a truck full of material with you but whatever material you need to solve that particular problem during the hackathon I am afraid you yourself will have to carry it with you I have no doubt that the organizers will say no to this thank you this is Dronacharya college of engineering Sir today in your remarks you said that the teams per college has been limited to D but about couple of days back I researched a part from the hackathon team saying that it has now been raised to 6 even they have updated their facebook page that the colleges are required now to submit up to 6 ideas which one is correct 3 or 6 well well you are better informed than I am this must have happened in the last few days because I gave a live address on the facebook live at that time I had interacted with them and I told them very specifically that 3 is a very small limit I had suggested in fact not to put any limit at all but at least enhance the limit so I stand corrected and this is for the benefit of all 3500 students and their friends that now the limit stands up to 16 per college although if you ask my opinion 6 is as arbitrary a number as 3 slightly bigger than 3 but it does not really solve the problem of enthusiasm in some colleges where there might be 20 teams wanting to participate but I am happy to know and confirm that up to 6 teams can participate so even those colleges which have already submitted proposals of 3 teams should start searching for additional teams very quickly all students in those colleges should go back and say look up to 6 teams are permitted here is our presentation and problem that we want to pick up and solve so it is good news that you bring thank you very much for bringing it to the attention of all attendees and for everyone thank you so much I am going over to so this is SKN Sienegard college of engineering over to you Sienegard college my name is Ranjit Swami my question is there is one already solution for existing system but we are having better solution I would think yes provided you can explain how your solution is better but I would suggest that you limit yourself to the problem areas that have been mentioned and there is no harm if you suggest that you have a solution which is better than an existing solution it should be acceptable but again this question will pose to the organizers and get a specific answer from them thank you so much I am going to RVRJC college of engineering this is Guntur almost all engineering colleges in south India they are having Fongal vacation sir last week we are having holidays even just 2 to 3 days before holidays we have received notice about formation of teams I request you extend the date for separation of projects by the end of this month I will use the words that you have used namely that almost entire south India is having Fongal vacation now I am sure that the government of India cannot ignore the entire south India so therefore I will use these terms to the political advantage for all of us and I will request that instead of just saying please extend the date I will say that a large number of colleges in the country have been unable to participate because the Fongal holidays and therefore the date should be suitably extended I will make that appeal personally and I will personally talk to the chairman AICT today evening itself request him to extend the date but thank you for giving me a very good reason as a key person for this activity that means remote center activity I request you to visit our institution so that we can invite faculty from other engineering colleges and I request you to motivate faculty of our college as well as neighboring colleges your presence thank you that is a small digression from the hackathon subject but I appreciate your wish and I am thankful for that I will definitely try to come to Guntur in one of these days let me go over to the prestige college of engineering over to you prestige sir my question is can one team submit proposal for more than one team oh my god I mean this is the one team can one team submit solutions for more than one problem please note that each problem is considered as one unit so if one team has to solve two problems you have to make two submissions with the same team now my question is if the hackathon for one team happens in city A and hackathon for another theme happens in city B how your team will simultaneously be present in city A and city B so my suggestion is now that up to six teams are permitted quickly create another team share your solution idea for the second team with them and let them participate I think one team with one team is what is intended so let us not disturb that model but encourage other friends of yours and colleagues to participate in the hackathon by sharing with them your idea let me welcome my friend and colleague professor Krithi Ramamritham who has been a great workforce here in trying to solve several problems he heads our center for urban planning and he is of course a renowned professor of computer science I will since we have answered all the questions interactively I will request professor Ramamritham to address you for five minutes after which in the remaining time period I will take questions which have come on email and chat session Krithi, welcome so I guess you already heard from Chaitra and Khmeresan, professor Khmeresan about the hackathon that we ran here we had fairly productive one week of preparation and finally the hackathon itself so you probably heard from them and saw the excitement in the face of the people who participated I will take you through one particular example of a product or a product idea that came from the hackathon so I will tell you what the problem is now suppose you want to figure out a way to reduce your energy bill your electricity bill at home or in your office or any space for example what do you do today at home if you take that instance more specifically there is a meter if somebody comes once a month to read and you get a bill two weeks after that saying your total electricity bill was so many units and the cost per unit is so much and then you pay the electricity company the amount that is demanded you have no way of knowing what constituted that many units sometimes you question the electricity board you come back with an answer sometimes satisfying your needs or your query most often it just goes by and you pay the next bill and keep going so what these people did was to come up with a way by which to minimize the trouble of reading the meter so that you can read it from far more importantly it also tries to minimize the cost of the energy that you use every day over a month's period because these meters are usually read once a month so the other factor is the price per unit is not constant throughout the range of utility that you have for the electricity for example up to 100 units you might pay a certain price per unit after 100 to 200 you might pay twice the price per unit and so this is called a block based approach to costing energy so the idea is the less you use the less you will pay but more importantly that slab that goes from 100 to 200 once you cross the 100 you pay the price for all the energy you use not just the crossing beyond the 100 you get the point so for example suppose you consume 90 units of power you pay 1 rupee per unit let us say for 120 because you cross the barrier of 100 you pay for 120 units twice the amount 2 rupees per unit so what this means is that if you cross 100 units of consumption it costs you humongously more per unit once you cross the boundary so all of this is the reason behind this particular invention or the idea and the second thing was that they wanted to have a user friendly interface to the smart meter and this means that for example when you are close to coming to that 100 barrier it will send you a message maybe at 90 units of consumption it will come back and say you are about to cross the barrier of 100 start reducing your consumption per day that might be helpful for you to bring down your electricity bill per month so all of these are tariff related but the most important thing is to make it available make the information about your consumption available at your fingertips maybe from home and through a web interface you can get to know how much you consume so far how far you are from the bound of 100 and how much more you will have to reduce your consumption by to keep within that 100 so basically that is the idea and these people showcased a simple solution to that which can be extended with more tunable parameters for example you could say that this month I have a wedding at home so I am going to have more consumption anyway so do not bother me until 200 so things like that could be programmed from small cell phone or your laptop or whatever and that flexibility gives you the ability to launch this in multiple places for example a huge building manager could use this to find out who is consuming what and tell people in those parts of the building where the consumption is high to reduce the consumption and so on so it is a very flexible method that they have come up with and that is why they have won the prize because you are also sure how it can be constructed how it is useful, what the benefits are and so forth one of the important questions here is how long does it take to get the money back for example when you put a smart meter at home you have to buy the meter that is going to cost you some money now you are also going to save some energy you have information about how much energy is being consumed and energy reduction means cost reduction so every month you are going to save some money but up front you have to put some money to buy the meter so this payback period as it is called how many months you have to continue to use the machine to the meter to get your money back which you put in initially it is called a payback period they calculated it to be some 2 years I think if I remember correctly smaller that period is more attractive the solutioners so you should come up with solutions for any such product which has a small or low payback period smaller it is the more attractive it will be of course the more features you add the more cost you have to incur there is a certain balancing act you have to perform this is where innovation comes in you ask the question can I add one more feature without adding too much cost to it because that will improve the sellability of the idea and the product also will go places that is basically the idea and this is going to be happening more and more in fact we can buy today in the market a smart meter as it is called because it gives you the ability to control your life your consumption in this case and these are about 9000 rupees a meter and with a meter like this made in India the cost becomes even less and more attractive to use smart meters at home and not wait for a western product to come at a lower price so that is the attraction of such products so wish you good luck in developing such things through hackathons and other outlets but keep going at it because a lot of problems staring at us around us and it is important to address our problems ourselves because outsiders can solve the problem it will cost us more and so we have to get used to developing products for ourselves which are cheaper and also as effective as the products from elsewhere so there was a question on the chat where they wanted to know one of the solutions explained therefore I requested Professor Krithi to explain the smart meter solution to all of you you can post in any other question if you have which are related to actual hackathon and not the smart India hackathon which is happening next month because that is something administrative question which we won't be able to answer right now but if you have any specific questions about participation, preparation during the hackathon that should be interesting for Professor Krithi to answer so go ahead you can also raise a hand if you have a question so there is a question from Sagar Institute of Science and Technology so we will just go and listen from them Sagar over to you Sir I want to ask you that how can I use one single slide to demonstrate youth scale diagram in dependency both so use case is basically a way by which to illustrate how a particular product in this case is smart meter that these people are developing would be useful and will go beyond what is possible today right so to do that you have to take a compelling case for example they showed here that if you take the case of a family which spends 310 rupees on this on their electrical power consumption and the bound is 300 310 rupees for 10 rupees extra of energy if you had thought about this from the beginning then you can have you can bring it down if you bring your consumption down by 10 units you can bring a total bill down to 200 rupees if you take the mathematics and calculate per unit how much it costs how much it costs for the month and so on so that is a use case because it shows you that if you had access to information about your consumption on a real time basis or even once a day basis that is sufficient for this purpose for this use case then you can with very little extra information you can get a lot of payback by having a way to reduce your consumption even more than normally meters allow you to do does the answer your question can we use more than one use case diagram no typically see the problem because the people who are evaluating your solutions would have much time so you have to do two or three different things in one use case should be compelling use case that means it should catch the attention of the reviewer without too much work if you have to understand the whole scenario in lot of detail to understand the use case then you would not get anywhere that is why we give you one slide and that slide should be very clear about what the use case is where you will use it what the benefits are and so at the end of looking at the slide the person reviewing it should say oh yes I got it and if you had three or four use cases each one of them I cannot have the same property so focus on one use case develop it properly make it as simple as possible to make the case for you and go forward with that single use case thank you sir next question my question is that the problem statement which our group has taken the sample details provided from the government so how to include that in our prototype and in case we want to add more features so can we do so this is a very specific question I do not understand the background but I think you should be able to add more features than they ask for and the more you add but the basic problem should be solved you cannot add more features and not follow the not be able to catch or contribute to the basic features asked of you get the point so do not add more before you give the basic solution yes sir I want to also ask about the dependency in the show stoppers can you please guide me with it the show stoppers so basically normally when you build a product there are lot of parts you are going to build subsystems you are going to build the subsystem comes to play as a set of parts which are interconnected now show stopper is one which if it fails everything comes to a halt right so now you want to make sure the show stoppers are small in number and the dependency we have to mention in the prototype that dependency from the user point of view dependency from the implementation point of view because if there are many parts which are dependent on each other any one fails that becomes the weakest link the product will fail or your idea will fail so you want to minimize the number of dependencies so as to have a product even if some parts fail the rest of them can be put together to create the final output that you want to produce ok so we will go to the next remote center whether the solutions uploaded are verified and approved by hackathon team or those who are submitting the solutions are going to be participated in the contest so there is no pre-judgment of what you upload whatever you upload will be assessed and evaluated and based on that shortlist will be prepared so there is no evaluation or assessment available to you as a feedback you have to do your best and submit your ideas I don't know the full background of this but in general if you have a hackathon where they ask you to form teams by having been through several hackathons here and elsewhere the one cautionary note is don't have people who look like you who think like you the more variation you have in your team the better off your product will be you understand so don't say he is a friend of mine for the last 15 years so he and I think alike so he will be a good partner that is not usually the case somebody who is very different from you will contribute more to the project essentially the product than somebody who is like you from for a long time so that is one thing second is if you can form teams of multiple from multiple disciplines I don't know what the situation here is do that so have if your computer scientist use somebody from a double E somebody from design somebody from mechanical engineering if your product is fairly ambitious you simply piece of software that you are developing that's okay to have computer scientist but generally if you have an idea which involves multiple disciplines you can produce something better and also the complexity can be more than a single monolithic area based project so if you have a choice make a choice towards more difficulty more variety more diversity in the product idea as well as the people who contribute to the product okay sir thank you sir I have one more question okay we are implementing the programs we need some mentors for the high difficulty course or the programs or we doesn't know some course about different language but we want to implement the actual thing but we know the course can it be available to us to getting the mentors Mr. Fadak here I think this question was raised earlier so as far as the smart India hackathon is concerned my understanding is that the mentoring will not be available to any team before you submit your idea but later on once they assess and evaluate your idea and if you are shortlisted for participation then they will definitely allocate mentors your question was specific about coding in say different languages which you are not studying I don't think that is an important parameter in either the judgment or completing your solution you must be clever enough to find out how you can implement your idea using limited pieces of software that you are well versed with so it is not expected that you will start learning new software now just for fulfilling the needs of this hackathon whatever you know and whatever you perfect within that knowledge is what you should apply so I hope I have answered that question the mentoring will come only for the selected and shortlisted team for which they will be able to give you a better idea of the timetable of when mentors will be allocated to whom mentors will be allocated etc I will pose this question to the organizers about the timelines of allocation of mentors and selection of ideas that will give you an answer but as far as you are concerned don't bother about things which are unknown to you at this juncture you are expected to solve the problem using whatever knowledge you have and I will repeat what Professor Krithi just mentioned that please try to ensure that your team has adequate diversity to think about different dimensions of the solution so that you can come up with a good composite solution ok thank you so much so my dear friends with this I will conclude this session with special thanks once again a to all 3500 plus participants who have enthusiastically spent a complete afternoon and more importantly to all my 130 remote centers and special efforts to make the facilities available even on a working day so that large number of students can benefit let me assure you that this session will be useful to most of you who can now prepare themes and submit their choices because as you already heard one of the remote centers Spock had mentioned that the limit has been enhanced to 6 teams and I hope that every college will now endeavour to submit up to 6 proposals so that larger number of enthusiastic students can participate and make this national event a grand success all the best for the coming hackathon and thank you very much once again goodbye and over