 Y254, imagine. Thank you so much for sticking to Y254 TV. My name is Sherily Blessing, and you are watching The Power Took Show. Now, before we went on our break, we were talking about how can we better understand our mental health issues, what is the root cause, and how can we address it from the root such that we deal with every other matter that can sprout from it. And joining me live on set is Namrata Shah, who is an expert on mental health issues, particularly in children and the youth. So we were just discussing about the boy child and how they haven't felt like there's a safe space for them to express. But there's also the aspect of the ego and the perception of men should be providers and men should be like this and men shouldn't express themselves. How can we deal with that such that men are allowed to be vulnerable when things are overwhelming to them? I think as a society, we need to be open to men being able to share their emotion, whether it's sadness or whether it's tears, just a simple thing like crying. You rarely find a man crying, yes or no? That's true, they rarely cry. They just want to bottle up their emotions and be like, I'm the man, I don't do this. So just to be the new generation of parents that are coming up and those that have older kids to understand that men and the boy child need a safe place to express. And they will only express in that environment. They won't express themselves in an environment which is confrontational, which makes them feel like they're not good enough for what they've set themselves out to do. So we have to look at both the ego and also the emotions. And I think if we try to say no, the man shouldn't have an ego, it's an impossible thing. So understanding that both are there and the emotions are there and that it's okay in your home if the man expresses or the boy expresses himself, it's perfectly fine. And that way you are creating a healthy emotional environment. And I like that you said that because sometimes even our responses from when they're children, a boy will be crying or doing something and you say boys don't cry, or girls do this, boys are not supposed to do that. This is some of the lessons that they carry on till the adults and they respond to, I don't react like this because boys aren't supposed to do that. The other day my cousin shocked me, he grew a beard, he's younger than me, but he tells me he can't eat chocolate or ice cream in front of people because men, if I have a beard, how am I just eating chocolate in front of people? Which is a toxic ideology and these are ideologies that have been picked up from social media or from the outside world because they don't remember us ever telling people, you don't, you know, from our childhood, there was no lesson like that. So what is the impact of having poor role models or no role models because sometimes even the fathers are not present or the fathers are just busy at work and they're rarely at home and the mothers are the only ones who are doing everything. What is the impact of lack of proper role models on the boy child as they're growing into men? You know, the role of the father and the mother is both important. The father plays an emotional role for the child too because he provides stability and the mother is the empathetic person in this relationship, you know. She's the one who provides the child with a listening ear, the patience, the trust, the caregiving, the nurturing. So both are important. So I would say to the fathers out there that your role is very important. Maybe nobody's ever said it. And so you do play a role to provide stability emotionally to your child just by validation. For example, if I'm coming into the house one day and I'm very young and I go to my father or my mother, first to my father and I say, hey, look, I've made, I've just got a new award for painting in my school. And for you, it's like, okay, my child has got an award for painting but they're looking for validation, you know. So validating that and saying, hey, wow, that's awesome. But you never got that from your father or your mother. So you would maybe not pass it on to your child. You would be good. You can do better next time. You know, kind of, yeah. So validating that emotion to our child, validating their experiences builds a healthy communication between you and your child, which won't then bridge into a gap later on, you know. And being able to express yourself. So children and youth love to express themselves. The more you try to suppress that, the more problems there'll be at home. That's what I've noticed. That's what they get older as well. Because most people have this perception that dad is just tricked. He's just, once he gets into the house, everyone leaves the seating room and no one really can communicate. And that can carry on to the children because once they see that this is what a man does, even the girl child, they can get a perception that, you know, even when I'm looking for a husband, he has to be this and this way. So it's important, as you're saying, for parents to open up and be free with their children and communicate at the children's level. So could you expound more on what you do and the work that you've done with the youth and the children? Because you've not just done some work in Kenya. You've gone to different countries. Please expound more on that. So I started in 2017 going into different schools. I started off with one school in Kangwari in one of the slum areas there to teach what's known as the Art of Living Children's Program. And in that, we teach breathing processes. It's a technique that allows the child to regulate their emotions. And also confidence building and, you know, fun games on learning about your emotions, learning about expressing yourself, learning about how to release traumas. And, you know, when I first started, it was very suspicious. Oh, what is this girl gonna teach? I don't know. So I told the teacher, I was like, you know, just give me 20 kids because I did this when I was young. And it helped me so much. I'm now, you know, I'm going into my 20th year of marriage. And, you know, I just wanted everybody to have that opportunity to learn what I have because it helped me in my challenging times, you know? So that was the reason I went out there. And when I got there, I told the teacher, by day two, the kids are not happy, you can call the program off. And I ended up teaching 640 children. Yeah, because they noticed such big changes. And when I was asking the kids to write what are your experiences, and I've shared that too on my profile, you can see the colorings, they've done beautiful colorings on, I feel happy, I feel stress-free, you know? I see the world in a different way, you know? So all those changes and transformations happen. And just by breathing, and I'll tell you why it's breathing and not anything else, is because how do you feel when you're angry? How do you feel your breath is when you're angry? Like your heart rate is up and your breath catches. There's always that, that's called chungu, kuakou, where you just feel like, you know, it's like you're choking or something. So breathing plays an important role in helping yourself come down. Sure, for sure. I mean, you know, if you go on Google and you type in benefits of breathing, you'll find hundreds of studies. And the process we teach on the art of living youth program and children program is very well researched by Harvard, by Yale, by top universities, top bodies in the world, discussing how this benefits the body, the mind psychologically and the body. So one benefit is the cortisol levels decrease. Cortisol is a stress hormone. So when they took tests of the cortisol levels of participants who had done the breathing, their cortisol levels had decreased. So understanding how to, you know, deal with your emotions, learning this process is a very important education. And that's what I was teaching on these programs and they're globally renowned. It's a standardized program where the art of living is present in 185 countries around the world. That's wonderful. And we have 30,000 volunteer teachers who go out and give their time, not only me. That's amazing. Hundreds of thousands of them are doing amazing work. That really shows a lot of dedication and the impact just itself because not as many people will be doing it if it wasn't something that can transform someone's life. For sure. Everything is recommended for when you're having a panic attack, anxiety, they recommend that you take a breath and then you can react to the situation. So there is a value in that, especially with the younger kids because as we've shared, kids sometimes don't have an outlet or people don't have an outlet. So when you provide a safe space, because once you create a room, maybe an hour, just relax, breathe, let loose and then it can even increase productivity. So those are things that you've noticed through your years over doing the programs. Yes, and the process is known as the sky breath technique. It's a rhythmic breathing process, like how you go to the gym. You know, you can't expect results in a day and say, hey, I lost 10 kg from going, I wish we could, but it's not like that, right? It's really noise. You know, like with the breathing, you're taking, it's like taking your breath through a rhythmic exercise. So you learn how to regulate the emotion, like anger. It doesn't stay with you for so long. What I noticed with myself was, I get angry, but when I do, the time between I'm angry and I feel anger is less. So it's not three weeks of holding on to something. It's just so frustrated by someone. Yeah, and every day somebody could trigger you, right? Every day somebody could say something that makes you feel unhappy. So we're not learning as a society how to be happy again. How to let go of that emotion of anger. And we're always blaming people for what they're doing. I'm not talking about abuse, or I'm just talking in a general, very normal dynamic that happens in work or at home. And nobody can say they're not facing it. And everyone does, you know, life has frustrations where even on your way, as you're commuting from one place to another, you can just come across someone who makes you angry or frustrated. And so many people are carrying anger from even years back, as we've talked about from the childhood. Someone can have trauma from their childhood and they carry it on and it affects their relationship, their work life, their social life. So how can we deal with that? First of all, how can we know that my anger is rooted in this particular experience and then address that issue so that you release your anger and become happier? Yeah, so you know, I'll give you a very simple example. Something somebody said 10 years ago to you. For example, if somebody said to me, Nemo, you know, you're dumb, let's say, okay? And I come back in front of that person 10 days, 10 years later, am I going to see that person or am I going to remember the insult that I was given? I'm gonna remember the insult, right? So it's a trauma that you carry, whether it's abuse that you faced or humiliation that you faced or someone projecting their anger on you. At least today we have terms for them. Before we never even had a terminology where we could categorize any of these mental health issues. So if you look at it from a psychological perspective, you see that your trauma is carried forward. So your cells carry that impression. I know, they say, if you smile, like you're smiling now, every muscle in your face is moving. Is moving, yeah. Right? So in the same way, your emotions also have that imprint on your body, on your mind. And like memory, you know, you remember things. You remember the good things and the bad things. So if I gave you 10 compliments and one insult, what would you hold on to? The insult. There you go. And I've had the experience where I was dressed so well and this one guy said, Umivanini, and I carry that forth. And you forget all the other compliments. So it's something that, it's a response that we all have. Yes, and it's natural, I would say. But the way to deal with it, like I said, you have a breathing process which was developed called the Sky Breath through the art of living programs that I'm teaching. And I'm seeing results in the youth. You know, some of them are coming out of drug addiction. They're coming out of crime. They're coming out of, you know, depression. And why? Because, you know, it's a very easy breathing process that you do 20 minutes a day. It's free. It's like exercising your breath because we know the breath is connected to emotion now. Like you explain through anger. So every emotion is connected to your breath. And the more we learn to work with our breath, the more we're able to handle our emotion. And you see, this is something that, it's a lesson that is vital and it's natural but it hasn't been communicated or taught. So the fact that you're able to communicate this to even young kids, it helps them through their life to understand that at some point, your boss will frustrate you. And you need to just step aside for five minutes, breathe, and come back and handle the situation. So in line with that, how can we also identify our triggers? Because as we've said, sometimes it's just a traumatic response. Someone beat you up when you were a kid and when you see them, you just flinch naturally. For sure. Or they said something and you carry that forth. So maybe you've dealt with everything but once you're in the presence of that trigger, once you're in the presence of that person or even a scent or just a flashback of something, how can we deal with the triggers such that even once you're healed, it does not trigger the same response that you had? You know, it takes time first, I would say that. It's not an easy part to let go of any kind of trauma. Even if it's a small criticism somebody gave you. So that's why I want to say, one, the breathing helps. Two, you know, exercising, moving your body. Three, going out in nature, doing something that's, you know, out of your normal day-to-day routine. And four, communicating, communicating and expressing. You could find just one person that you trust, a friend or a family member or even just a colleague and sit. And the other thing is that society needs to change the narrative. We cannot judge or label people who are facing mental health issues. Because I'd like to tell you, you know, depression is such a thing. It's such a, it's more than an emotion. It's a psychologically debilitating process that can happen in anybody at any time for no reason. And you know, you could be normally going about your day, but you know, you don't feel good from inside. But you're not able to express that to somebody. You're not able to see. And generally people who are going through such events, like you are saying, you're not able to share that. So I'd like two ways for this solution. One is we have a more listening society. Somebody, you take time to look around you to see people who can, you can, you know, sit with me before 10 minutes who don't feel so happy, who don't look so good. Just sit with them. You never know, just you providing a listening ear can help them. That's one simple solution, you know. And the second is learning to regulate your emotions. Now through the breath work and the meditation. And so I'm acknowledging that these are difficult processes, you know, depression, suicide, anger, anxiety, dealing with the world around you. Imagine what our youth are facing. And then there is this perfect ideal you have on Instagram of somebody who's got the best life and you in your home without even having, you know, 1% of what you are. So this idea of perfectionism is creating a lot of anger amongst children and even adults, you know. That's true. And I like that you've said that because it adds value to our conversation that we were talking about last week about dealing with anxiety. And the people who were here, the guests that we had also shared the same opinion. Once you're active, once you exercise and you have a way of channeling that the emotions, then it really helps you sort out and deal with them. So I want to also talk about the value of self-awareness because people have issues. I find that especially nowadays when I go on social media, I find that people project a lot of their issues without really understanding that this comes from within, this comes from a certain aspect of my life. So what is the value of self-awareness and how can we get to a place where we really understand the root cause of our issues and address them from there? You know, it's a journey and that journey starts with you. Understanding that you may have an anger issue, you may be in having resentment towards somebody, it's important. That's the first step of self-awareness. The second is to go into some kind of, you know, reflection or meditation. Like I've taught hundreds of youth and children and they're finding it helps them. You know, closing your eyes for 10 minutes and just going into observing your breath and going into that space, it's important to give yourself that time because you don't need to invest all your time outside. We've been taught that, right? We have to work, we have to achieve, we have to be successful, great. But to get to that, you shouldn't lose your health in the process. And we're doing that, we're losing our health because we don't have time to eat, you know, nutritious, healthy food. We need a quick fix. We're quickly on Instagram. We just, without even looking at the food, you know, the spoon is going into our mouth. You can finish and just get back to work or whatever you are doing. But just 20 minutes of your time investing in yourself. And it sounds, I don't think it sounds out there anymore. Before I would say maybe people would be very skeptical or labeling why meditation, why she's saying, cause she's Indian. It's not like that, no. I think it's very accepted now. People do like, you know, having a way of reflection, whether it's prayer or whether it's meditation, you can call it any of the two, you know, and closing your eyes and going within to take that time gives you more time to do other things out there. Yeah. And I like that you say that because it's really an individual battle. Like each of us are unique because our experiences, our history is all unique to us. So once you can reflect and go within yourself, then it's very easy to identify. I may have this trauma because of this. Let me give you an example. This is not like a bad trauma, but I find myself buying shoes that are sparkly every single time. I'll just spot something that shines and I'm like, I need it without even understanding why. So once I reflected on it, I remembered an instance where I was younger and my mom couldn't afford because, you know, she was prioritizing everything and we had to travel and I saw shoes that were sparkling as a kid and I cried because I wanted them, but she couldn't get them at that point. So I carried that trauma and I was like, now I have to fill the void of the sparkly shoes that I didn't get as a kid. So you see, traumas like that, they can be good or bad, but we have to look within for us to understand why am I acting a certain way or why am I reacting this way? So would you also say these cuts across relationships because sometimes even maybe our reactions in certain past relationships can affect our current relationships or the fact that someone broke your heart five years ago? Because I've had this theory, there's this common perception that people, especially men, they'll get hurt broken once and they close off and they think every other partner they meet is the same way. So what is the value of really reflecting on even issues such as that, in your relationships, in your work life, before you move on to the next situation? You know, there are so many aspects to a relationship that make it work. I think you know that. As we grow older, we see that either they become, they become more complex or you can simplify them. You know? And unfortunately, we haven't had that conversation amongst us. Like let's say I sit with my partner and I say, okay, this is the issue, can we deal with it? It normally becomes, you know, like a mountain before you can deal with it. You want to address it? Yeah. So identifying triggers from your past definitely help you to bring in a fresh perspective into your relationship. But it's not easy. Otherwise, we would have all done it. Yeah. Because we all want to be happy, right? True. So something like your father said or your mother said or your aunt said or your uncle said or even a bully in the school said affected the way you looked at something right now and everybody's faced that. That is true. It's an impression you carried in the mind from your past to your present. So learning how to let go of the past and knowing that it's the past you can't change it is a very important point. And that's what we teach on our program. We train our kids, you know? Like the past is the past. I can't go back. Can you go back 10 years from now? No, you can't. You can even go back to yesterday to what happened. And life is moving ahead, right? True. So the breath is an important aspect in that it helps to release those impressions from the past. And then identifying those triggers, you know, identifying that I have this generational trauma, maybe my father faced it and my forefathers faced it and now my father passed it on to me and I may pass it on to my child. But I want to be self-aware about it now. You know? Yeah. I want to be self-aware about it on to my child. So that's why I said, take your step towards emotional help because it will help your children in the future and help you. But it's an individual journey. I can say it. It's an individual journey. But you have to do it. Right. And you see, that's an aspect of also breaking generational causes. Yeah. Because once a habit has been carried forth from one generation to the next, you have to decide, I'm going to be different. Yeah. And there's also the aspect of detaching the person from the action. Correct. Even the bullies, sometimes they were dealing with so much at home and they didn't have a channel to project all that. So they could have found you or I and they found us to be vulnerable. And they're like, okay, no, this is the week wide. We're going to zone all our projections on this person. So how can we, as we're getting older, how can we detach and say that perhaps my mom was dealing with this or my father was dealing with some challenge at work and that's why he reacted a certain way so that it can help us also forgive and release all the past frustration. I think you've said it, you know, forgiving and letting go. And as I mentioned, that's why, you know, the counselors are there. How many of us have access to mental health resources? Very few. And what is available is also very expensive. And that's why I came forward to take the programs. I realize mental health resources and access to those resources or information that I need to help myself is not easily available. That's true. So reaching for help is important. Having that conversation with yourself first and forgiveness is a journey. It's never easy. You're going to take your time with it. But one thing I can say for sure is the breathing, the sky breathing I did, it helped me. It really helped. So I want to share that with Kenya, you know. Please. Yeah, I like that. I totally agree with you because I've seen from very many different cultures. Even if I look at this book that's called Ikigai and it's rooted in Japanese culture and they have the same. The breathing, the diet, the philosophy of life, all of that affects the quality of life. And as we were sharing, you know, our parents in the older generations had less stress. Or perhaps the lifestyle was much healthier because they were outside in nature. The food was healthier. But we are dealing with a lot. But we're also not getting the nutrition that helps us produce the right hormones. Because now we have all these toxic hormones and everything without the balance in our system. So what is the value of also prioritizing our health and about the meals and the diet that we have? You know, the diet pays such an important role. Like how many of us are, you know, in Kenya we're so lucky in our country we have abundance of vegetables and fruits. Yeah. The same fruits and vegetable cost so much money in another country, you know. But it's true. So are we having nutritionally high energy foods? Like for example, you know, pumpkin is very nutritionally good for you. All these kind of foods that we have available here like spinach and kale or succuma is brilliant for your body system. Who said it wasn't? Your forefathers lived on it and they lived a long life. And I was telling you the same thing. I don't know if we'll reach there because we have processed foods and fast food. The chemicals and everything. Yeah, everything is now. And then the other thing I want to share is, you know, we're losing that ability to have an access to a network of family. It's breaking down. You know, before your, you know, our grandfather, great grandfather had the network of people around him who would help when there was a family problem. And now you don't have that same network. So are we losing our culture in the process too? Yeah. And you know the world because of the digital era, people are more online. They'll spend the times on their phones as opposed to talking to their family and friends. So I want to go on our Facebook where we asked how are you dealing with your mental health issues? Do you understand what you're having and how are you addressing the root cause of the issues? So I wanted to read some of the comments that we've had. We have some Adeline who says, just watching from Westlands. Thank you so much, Sam, for watching. Isaac Nalyanya says, hi, I'm watching from Buterre. I think the best way is by, number one, adopting healthy sleeping patterns. Very important. And number two, we should live in protective and supportive environments and by learning to manage emotions. Thank you so much, Isaac. That really resonates with our conversation. And then Peter also says, in the case you see Malawa, Naivasha watching, thank you so much for everyone who's watching us. And I like what Isaac has said, because number one, people are not sleeping as long as they need to. We need to have like six to eight hours of rest and kids, it's different across every age group. But when you look at even kids, kids are up by five, four, 30 a.m. and they have to get ready for school and then once they come back, they have all this homework and all this workload, they're not getting as much sleep. So what is the value of also just resting and relaxing, even on weekends, just taking time off and disconnecting from social media, what's the impact of that or mental health? And the impact will be huge and you need to recognize and notice that for yourself. So I don't know if it will be appropriate for me to share with you one of the breathing, for a good sleep. Yeah, we can try that. Yeah. So it's known as the back of the throat breathing. And it's a very good exercise because it helps to oxygenate the system. Yeah, and I think if you try it at home, it's perfectly okay. So I'll just share with you. So I hope when you're back home, you're in a very comfortable position. We're going to try this because it's evening. We need to relax before we go to bed. So I'll share with you, you just take your breath in through the back of your throat and out through the back of your throat. Can you do that for me? That's it. Just keep breathing for me. Keep going. And when you feel comfortable, you can close your eyes if that's okay for you. Keep going, keep going. I'll tell you. Just keep going. Okay. Now just keep your eyes closed for a second or two. Relax the breathing and very slowly and gently relax your breathing and you can open your eyes. That's so relaxing. I feel like I almost went to sleep. That was very relaxing actually. Because I know many people face sleeping issues and you know it's a problem. And you know it's really calmed me down for a moment. I could see one of our camera operators also trying in case one of the camera I met actually. He's fallen asleep. We are asleep in this. He's fallen asleep. Sorry. We are so relaxed. But that's really good. Because you know people are dealing with insomnia because they're up thinking about work, their social life, even social media. People spend time on social media just comparing their lives to someone else who they perceive is doing better. So breathing like that really helps calm you down. Yes, and it stops the train of pot that keeps on bombarding the mind because social media is a stimulation to the brain. So it's like a light bulb that goes off on. And then when you can't switch it off, what do you do? So the breathing is, yes, it's a way forward. And how would you recommend, once let's say I'm getting ready for bed and I'm just at home, how would you recommend? Should I go off social media or turn off my phone for about 30 minutes before and then do the breathing before I go to sleep? So you can lie down on your back, keep your hand on your stomach and do the back of the throat breathing 15 times. And then you can message on your Facebook handle. I'm sure you'll get many messages. I'll probably text the next and be like, oh yeah, I passed out. Yeah, you'll get many messages. And I'm really... And then when you try it at home, I hope when you're watching us back home, you try this exercise because I know so many people. The minds are so active at night. I need so many. You're up at 2 a.m. on Twitter, on TikTok because you can't fall asleep. So we have to distract ourselves from our phones and from television and the computers and laptops. So once you do the breathing exercises, it helps, not only with sleeping, but also your mental health. And how can we also deal with that? What advice would you give someone who's probably dealing with stress from work or from school? For the youth, people are dealing with stress from school, the expectations from their parents and people who are just walking and the economy is stressing everyone out. How would you advise them to get day by day? What breathing exercises would you recommend? So I would recommend to come on our program, to learn the sky breath, do the breathing that I taught. If you're finding you're not able to sleep and you've really got an issue with sleep and I know most people do, you can do 30 times the breathing, you know, 30 times in and out and then rest. Don't keep your phone like this and then do the breathing and tell and then say, it didn't work for me. You've got to keep the phone aside. The second is to know that life has its challenges, you know, you are going to get challenges. I know there are economic, social, relationship, financial. It's really big out there and it's getting worse. I don't see that, you know, wherever I'm looking, people are sharing how much they're facing, whether it's an emotional challenge or whether it's a financial challenge. I would say, you know, do something that brings you to a space where you are able to deal with it yourself. You know, something that you like doing, whether it's an outdoor activity, whether it's meditation, breathing, prayer, singing, listening to music, for example, that has nonviolent lyrics, that really helps. And all those facets of life, which we face on a day-to-day basis, we're able to go through them. So I would really like to say that this culture of giving up has become normal. I think we noticed that. Yeah, it's very normalized this days. It needs to be the narrative that we can change as a society is to building resilience. I can face criticism. I can face my problems. I can be happy and smile, not by escaping or pushing things under the carpet, but by building myself emotionally and mentally and learning to manage my emotions. Thank you. I think that's very well said. I was about to ask you for your parting shirt, but that kind of gives us some aspect of the parting shirt. So maybe you can just tell us where to find you on social media, across all platforms, maybe your contacts, and advice you'd give, particularly to parents of young kids or parents of the youth, or just older siblings, people who are dealing with children, how they can help nurture their mental health to avoid half of the issues that we are dealing with right now. What would you advise them on? And you can also share your contacts in the same breath. Yeah, so just like you said, nurturing emotional health in your child is just as important as the academics. Both go together. Being empathetic towards your child, listening, and developing a space where their friends and yourself can come together as parents to discuss this. Don't lose that opportunity to bring together your friends, your colleagues, to discuss how you can better this emotional quotient amongst kids, amongst youth, and don't give up as parents. Parenting is hard, especially in today's world. So we're acknowledging it's not easy, but go for it, give you 100%, give time to your children. Like I said, one hour a day is really like an investment in your child because it will give them all the tools they need for their life ahead, you know? And acknowledging their emotions, validating their feelings rather than putting them down will give them a lot of strength and confidence to move through life. And of course, you know, not everything is rosy, also giving your child a little bit of discipline, a little bit of criticism, so they can face the world, you know? I find one criticism and the youths and the children are not able to deal with it. They want to lock themselves up and say, I can't deal with this. My boss is so bad, I'm doing an internship and I'm always facing problems, but no, we must have a narrative of building resilience, of building a happy, healthy society that can face challenges, you know? Thank you. So where can we find you on your social media platforms? Yes, so we have a Facebook page called The Art of Living Kenya. Please like our page, comment, and you can reach me there. I'll give my telephone number, 0706-581-454, and I have my ex, Twitter ex-handle. It's Namratasha7. Please reach out to me. I'm happy to be there, to have a conversation with you about mental health and share my insights on how breathing has helped me and thousands of youth in Kenya and globally. Thank you so much. I like everything that you've said. Thank you so much. I hope you've taken note of her contacts because you can find out if she has workshops or trainings about how you can deal with your mental issues and build resilience. That is it for today. I hope you've taken away something. In today's society, there's so many stresses and triggers. Learn how to deal with your own triggers. Do breathing exercises, meditate, and heal from within. You have to address your issues from within yourself. I'd like to thank you for sticking to Y2-540-V. My name has been Sherry Blessing and this has been The Power Talk Show. I want to appreciate every single person who has made this show a success and I want to see you next week, same time. So tune into Power Talk, same time next week. And that's it for today. Have a lovely evening.