 Here we go. So everyone we will we've decided against covering the hot tub boat I'm I totally want this to happen. So yeah, we're not gonna cover it We're just gonna go get one right and Roger is gonna be the captain. I Aye aye captain Chang Yes, oh, I'll need control Hi, I can change yeah, that's why we give you captains you have control sir Seaman merit. Oh dear, okay But it is accurate the very Hey IBM reported a 4.7% decline in quarterly revenue Tuesday the week demanded technology services We are literally 14. I'm sorry. I know Just made me uncomfortable like I was like I was 14 You're going to go back to your teenage life life. Oh Hell no Wow, yeah, I Thought about that recently. I was like there's a couple things that wouldn't mind correcting Well, yeah, I guess if you put it that way that I think about it a little differently But you know, I guess that's always true. I had a great eighth grade Eighth grade was fantastic for me We had we had the junior high system in in my school So in sixth grade you finish elementary school and then you went to junior high for two years and in eighth seventh grade You were bottom of the pile eighth grade You were top of the pile and I knew I was going to high school soon where I would be bottom of the pile again So I was I just enjoyed the heck out of eighth grade I was like, I'm gonna live it up. Make hay while the sun shines How do you how do you live it up in the eighth grade? Oh, I don't know. It's just a mindset really I Kind of did whatever I felt like except mine didn't really I mean I Can't I caught up with my third grade. I'm using cold seared girlfriend Like the last week we've been chatting Yeah, she she didn't remember me at first I have caught up with a lot of Yeah, like high school junior high era Girls who were also friends some of But Cassandra Hamilton and I have never reconnected that was my my first girlfriend I asked her after catechism if she would go with me. She said yes, and then three days later moved away Wow, never saw again. You're a victim of women, man Yeah, I need to change your ride Too late you signed the paper document it's been it's been interesting come conversations. Oh, like There's more and more so reminiscing who our teachers were blah blah blah. Yeah, it's fun I've had a couple of those two where yeah, like my high school girlfriend and I got back in touch on Facebook and And I got back together. I know I almost said that I'm like, that's not what I mean I'm like, uh, I lean line line to hear your life. Great. Great Welcome to tell them about the afternoon That I'm gonna. Hi. Okay. All right. Here's our open line. Yes. Let's get ready to rumble Are you ready sir? I am ready per copyright of this Yeah, I didn't didn't say it in that tone, but I think it's still trademark Uh, here we go. Yes, sir Daily Tech news show is powered by you. Yeah, I'm talking about you find out more at Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday July 18th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt Lamar Wilson in the house today to talk about a few tech things we should know about welcome Lamar Thank you for having me appreciate it. Thank you for being back man Has been that long but it's always too long. I love having it. It's been a while It's been it's been a while. I almost forgot who you who you were with the show did so I'm Tom your Tom. Yeah Merritt Merritt who are two T's and that Roger is our producer Okay, okay, I'm starting to get it You got a million subscribers. You can't keep track of us anymore. Yeah. Oh, you're the husband of my the great Right Probably would work better We're we've got a fan mail Tuesday going on. We're gonna read a bunch of the great emails We've been getting from folks about quantum computing About some of the ways that things actually work from some people who actually work in those fields We are gonna check in with Lamarca. I don't know if you if you're not subscribed to his channel You should subscribe to his channel, but you did a tech haul recently and gave an LG laptop to your mom So we're gonna check in find out how your mom's like in the laptop Yeah, she gave me some good text and I'll be readings reading my mom's text to you. So enjoy that. Oh, I can't wait Let's start off with a few tech things you should know about Google went public with its hire service that helps companies who use G suite to recruit employees hire lets companies manage jobs receive application forms or job postings and receive application forms interview and screen candidates and it's available as a Paid add-on to US businesses to start that have a thousand employees or less and of course use G suite So it integrates a Gmail and sheets and all that stuff. So the next monster Yeah, well, this is the I guess it's one one angle of monster, right monsters both for the the Posters and the post ease. I guess this could post to monster kind of the way Google job search now pulls listings out of monster Okay, yeah The Korea Herald reports Samsung has purchased extreme ultraviolet lithography machines to produce seven nanometer chips For the iPhone Samsung supplies OLED screens to Apple and it produced chips for it until 2013 But Apple switched all over to TSMC. I guess it's now gonna split it between TSMC and Samsung Yeah, they weren't getting enough supply from from the other company and apparently not enough yield as they say ZD net reports users of PCs with Intel's clover trail series of CPUs are prevented from installing the March 2017 creators update version 1703 so if you have One of these laptops that was sold between 2013 and 2014 and you can't get it to update Windows It's not you it's Windows a note from Acer Which is not the only manufacturer that made machines with the clover trail But they did make a few Acer said it was working with Microsoft to provide continued support for the devices All right Yeah So this is concerning though because this is the first of the Windows 8 laptops that did were able to Upgrade to Windows 10 that have fallen out of the update cycle. Okay. Yeah, I was wondering what clover trail was So, yeah part of Windows 8. Okay, got you here's some more top stories Google Never ended its Google Glass product. I'm probably the only person who cares But I remember getting annoyed by all the Google Glass is dead and it's like no It's not dead. They actually even still have a consumer team working on Google Glass But it was never pulled from enterprise it focused on enterprise companies have been using it like GE Boeing DHL Agco There's a great story from wired about all of this Alphabet which is you know Google became alphabet and then Google became a division of alphabet and Google X became X under alphabet Anyway X unveiled the latest version of the enterprise version of glass called the glass Enterprise edition it's not the Google Glass anymore. It's just glass the new design is supposed to be more comfortable bigger display prism foldable design and faster processor also supposed to have a better battery life Yeah, I was reading this article from wire by the way era fascinating article Like it was it's super well-written and and these are machinists and I may be using you know They're title wrong who you know who are doing monotonous work putting in bolts and and use a certain wrenches And you know they have to have a precision done, right? So if they're new You know they would have to go to the laptops to figure out the manuals and someone's on the laptop Then they would have to wait it would disrupt the whole workflow now the manual pops up right in front of them You know from what they need and they're able to say okay I need to use this wrench for this bolt and it's it not only is to save in time But productivity is is higher and the article is going to say it the only Problem was like some of the older more experienced workers are like I don't need this you know But they which which happens with with any tech, but they they found you know that they relaxed They realized how useful it was and and they're not getting any pushback from this because it is actually just enhancing It's not trying to do anything more than enhanced workflow Yeah, and a lot of people declared Google Glass of failure because it failed to do some of the things that Google tried to market As it did it you know they were getting fashion models to wear it They were saying everybody's going to be wearing these out and about and of course none of those things have happened But I don't consider glass a failure I consider it a very successful business product and it and it seems like the fact that they're coming out with a new Version of it reinforces that it is incredibly useful in certain business and manufacturing situations Yeah, I never liked the word failing either because it was never out as a real product It was always in a beta type of we're trying this mode So but you know the tech press loves to say something fails. So that's that's Not glass hole, but glass full. Oh I see what you did there. That was good. Yo, you should be a much Comedy there Your channel is much better than that Mira a company founded by fourth-year students at USC is launching an augmented reality headset for 99 bucks take that hollow lens It there's some caveats here the headset needs an iPhone Running the Mira app. It's so it's kind of like cardboard or the gear VR headset reflects the screen onto a custom molded Clear lens though. That's where it's different than cardboard or the VR so it can put images in the real world So you can see everything around you You look a little goofy because you have these huge fish bowls. They literally the prototype used fish bowls They have these these huge rounded lenses over your eyes But then it reflects the screen down on there and you can see things Markers can help place objects in the real world You don't have to use the markers, but they can help in some places and you get a controller that can interact with the virtual images There's also a spectator mode if you don't have glasses You can point your smartphone at the area that someone with glasses is looking at and see the same thing that they're Seeing this could be used to play games with each other Experiences recorded as photos or videos as well and Mira hopes to spark developer interest They say that really they understand that their their hardware is a little bit of a hack right now They just want to get people Developing on the Mira platform because they think the software is the future Yeah, yeah, and hollow hollow ends is what 3000 to get a developer Edition so coming in 99 bucks is for developer to try this out. It's pretty cool I was doing an article the other day. I don't know was during the weekend, but it was talking about how the how ar is poy is Poise to kill the smartphone and that's what apple and google are racing to do to kill the To kill the concept of the smartphone by using that's why they're pushing ar ar more than vr As the same just just because you're able to do a lot more with that I thought the concept was interesting, you know not not killing the phone, you know as what it is But enhancing what this brick does in our in our hand. Yeah, kind of liberating if not more than killing saying, you know Stand in here with the black square in front of you anymore You you kind of free your interface I've always felt like augmented reality has a better shot of catching on the virtual reality For mainstream adoption just because you can see around you. I think that's that's Lesson and impedance for some people. Yeah, then the best test of that. I mean silly as well as was pokemon go I mean If that didn't show up the interest people had an ar. I don't know what did Bluetooth sig released the spec for bluetooth mesh Tuesday the spec will help small devices Mostly like smart home devices create a mesh network over bluetooth So that you can transfer signals and save some power because you don't need to boost the signal strength So you don't understand mesh networks too well One device can transfer to the nearest device which will then forward the signal on to the next nearest device that way Say your lock and your front door doesn't have to boost its signal all the way to the roof To reach some sensor that's up there for rainfall or something The rainfall sensor can go to the attic sensor to the light bulb to the to the front door Yeah, just hopping. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Standard requires all communications to be encrypted. Good job bluetooth sig on that And bluetooth mesh can be added to any device that supports bluetooth 4 or 5 doesn't mean they will support them But it could so you don't need a hardware upgrade. Yeah. So when I read this I thought wait a minute This is already out Because philips hue does this but they use zigbee which is a different technology protocol. There's a bunch of them out there Yeah, yeah, which which does the hop thing which is pretty cool But uh, yeah, but bluetooth being the main one. I I see promising as I'm kind of living the The smart home life for or trying to at least that you know, because right now I'm actually having a problem with my ring doorbell Getting enough power from the from from the the router even I'm using like the orby Yeah, so sometimes it's trying to connect to the router one instead of the Actual satellite that's there So I'm actually going out today to get to get the google wi-fi to see if the mesh network Will solve that because each one of those acts as an actual router versus versus an extension of one. So yeah, yeah I I have iro that does the same thing Okay, and with some clever placement and and once iro put out those the ones that will just plug into a wall Uh, it gave me a couple of options. I wouldn't have had otherwise and now I get great coverage There's so really that's good to hear. Okay, uh amazon has begun selling amazon meal kits So they're kind of like blue apron or hello fresh they pack in a recipe and all the ingredients and exactly the proportions You need to make a meal uh made by chefs. They're always made by chefs All these things are geek wire has a write-up of the experience from seattle systems engineer josh chad after he found the meal kits in his amazon fresh in seattle amazon fresh costs about 15 dollars a month So you have to be an amazon fresh subscriber on top of amazon prime to even get these things and then each meal Costs close to 20 dollars and as I saw some for 17 18 19 dollars Yeah, I'm not sure why they pulled it from their site. Uh, because I guess after this article day They pulled the link so you can't see it anymore But I saw these like a month or two ago and Mark didn't work for me either But I actually went into my amazon fresh and looked and I found some Okay, good. Yeah, I think they were promoting martin stewarton, which is actually in that ad That that was on the side So she apparently it was like her her box or whatever and amazon was pushing that kind of an attitude to to blue apron and all them Uh, it's it's funny this the story came up because This weekend and actually from prime day Uh to this weekend it's been Like crazy. I was I was testing on amazon fresh and pantry And I literally bought all of my groceries on on amazon I can't tell you how awesome that is to see the the post office guy come up upstairs With these with these bags. Yeah, they used to post office to deliver them. No kidding, huh? Yeah, it's it's a whole separate service and they come up with what's you know, secure bags, you know, that If it's cold stuff, they have a cold type bag And it is the most convenient thing and it's helped me to shop better because it's not impulse Like walking through the store. I'm like, oh cookies, you know, I can look at it in my cart It's like do I really need this before I sit, you know, yeah Yeah, that's what the store does they do that on purpose They they put things at a level that they they hope will you know, you'll just won't be able to resist buying Yeah, I mean amazon tries the same thing with with certain things popping up in deals But but I found myself it even knows online. I'm used I'm spending a little bit less Because I'm not just you know throwing things in a cart. So I am completely sold on grocery I got a grocery store down the street, but I'm completely sold like I'm paying especially with the pantry. That's amazing. Um, the non-refrigerated stuff, right? Right, right so I I've actually bought meat and and um They froze. Yeah frozen meals ground beef I bought Milk stuff like that and it's been fine. It's it's name brand Tasty, I don't have anything spoil So yeah, just just I saw my amazon fanboys what I'm saying. Yeah Sounds like it. So have you ever done any of these blue apron or hello fresh type things? Yes. Yeah So I didn't believe that as I get into there because blue aprons stock took a little bit of a hit when this Oh, they did yeah and disclaimer. I did a blue apron Advertising for them. Just hello fresh advertises on current geek. So there Okay, you know, but but it was my first foray into that and I thought it was just a genius idea, but amazon good getting into it makes sense. They just bought um Who was a whole foods, you know, they're big They're getting in the process of buying it. Yeah in the process. Yeah, but yeah, yeah Yeah, so they're they're getting serious about that. I I think if hello fresh came first, I really think blue aprons in trouble Uh, if they're the second one, you know, it's always that second company who's trying to make it work Their stock is taking a bigger hit sometimes when an amazon gets in a space like this They're too big to do it right They have too much going on and so a blue apron or a hello fresh can survive Other times they just crush the competition. They take over and they're like guess what we're we're doing this now And then the third situation is where everybody coexist. I mean look at netflix amazon came in and started doing streaming video But that didn't crush netflix. So no not at all You can assume that any one of those might play out I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that amazon kicks everybody out because I don't know that many people doing amazon Uh fresh and you and the problem with amazon prime video for a lot of people was well I have to buy a shipping service to get the video At least at first when they first launched it and that's the same thing Like I have to buy a grocery delivery service to get the meal kits So I think this is more going to appeal to the people already using it for grocery shopping Kind of like those meals in the deli when you go to the grocery store Versus somebody who's a big fan of one of these other services giving it up to switch to amazon There's kind of some hurdles you have to go through to switch Right and and and to be honest like the $15 in my head is like Why are they charging me for this but then I look at the shipping and you know like you spend over 40 bucks You get you know the 10 bucks ship. So I do this a couple times a month and taste care of that fee. Yeah And and so that's the way I justify it, but they remember when it used to be 300 bucks a year Oh gosh. Yeah Yeah, and they they they kind of fixed that so it'll it'll be interesting to see what's going to happen here I mean they're not going anywhere, but I actually want the little guys to win out of like I'm worried about blue blue apron But I don't want them to like yeah, I want more of these kind of services and I I'm I'm also keeping an eye on things like to vola. I have a to vola smart oven And you know, they're going a little bit with the razor blade model Buy the smart oven and then subscribe to their meals, which at first I was like Okay, I mean I don't want to have to buy your silly meals To to use your smart oven and you can use the smart oven to cook other things I used it to make salmon this weekend, but their meals are really good They're doing it right where I'm like I tried their meals and I'm like, okay. I don't want to like them Really good and they're super easy you just plug it in so there's all I think this is a wide open space Of meal delivery that there's a lot of different angles on right now So it's not it's not your whole big oven and like you didn't replace your Microwave sizes. Oh, okay. I was wondering I said, wow, you really committed to this to vola No, it's it's it's it's countertop. It's countertop. Uh, hey A night scope security robot was found floating in an office plaza fountain Monday night scope robots Are on patrol in many parts of the country including california this one in a dc office plaza Included facial recognition hd video capture as well as infrared and ultrasonic sensors That was not enough to keep it out of the water The night scope security robot is survived by several other identical night scope security robots And we'll be missed Probably probably missed by somebody somewhere. Don't you think moment of silence For the night scope security robot I think uh, I think lemar's having uh, he's he's having he's all the clumped He's he's so He's so sad about the loss of our nights having some, uh Okay, there we go. I was having some audio issues. Sorry. I thought maybe you were just so sad about the night No, I wanted to get into that story. Sorry. Sorry about that. Okay. Yeah, uh, so do you suspect foul play? Um, so wouldn't you be able to tell by the hd camera that's embedded? I would think so. Yeah, so Sorry, I'm this is going in and out, but okay. I'm back We continue. I would yeah before I saw this. Okay before I saw it I actually when I heard this night scope thing. I imagine like this little little flying little Oh, right spy type robot that lander is a rolling around Right. Yeah, when I looked at I was like, wow, um, I wonder what happened there. Maybe committed You know, um It's hard to say poor poor poor robot Uh poor little little it's funny. So I actually said that yeah We were promised flying cars instead. We get suicidal robots Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to our sister show Or brother show we're not we're not going to box it in daily tech headlines Daily tech headlines dot com You can subscribe to it as a podcast as an amazon echo flash briefing or get it on the anchor app at anchor dot fm All right, we it is going to be a fan mail tuesday, but real quickly before we get into the emails Lamar's latest tech haul included an lg laptop uh that You gave to your mom And she was using it. How's she enjoying it? Yeah, so she she um, first of all She was completely surprised that I was gonna send her a laptop. She was you know, really really happy. She uh First question she asked is does it have a dvd player and I was like, oh no, it doesn't So I had to buy I bought her a usb external external d. You're good. I don't know what she's gonna use that for But it's a mom thing. She's yeah, you know, she's six years. She has dvds. So I was like, okay So I I got that for but yeah, some some of her things that she said in a text to me My mom does text by the way She says set up was too easy It automatically goes to microsoft platform to log in it looks wonderful. I love it very much Uh, I keep trying to fold it in half. Um, I guess because it's so light because it's like she Yeah, so yeah, um, she said the only bad thing was the updates. It just took a long time to update To update. Yeah Yeah, and then she said it's super light and that that's one thing about that lg lg grandma I was stunned. I mean everybody's making ultra books, right? It it doesn't necessarily look that special But when you put it in your hand, I'm like, this is this is a lap You know, I've played with worlds They didn't sort of lightest laptops before Yeah, it was really light. It was like I I couldn't really comprehend that said in the video I was like, this is really really light and so so she would need something like that, you know for her You know traveling to do, you know, real estate stuff for clients. It's a it's a perfect thing to throw in a bag She's not just sitting watching her dvds on it. Oh, no. No, she's not working. Yeah, she's not working with it. It sounds like Yeah, so she she's really happy. Uh, it's just been a week, but she's uh She yeah, she's she's happy uh with it and we'll we'll see we'll see how long it lasts for right if she takes care All right, we'll check back in with you next time. Uh, but it sounds like it was it was a win for mom It was a win for mom. It's a perfect computer. Is that right? LG gram. Yeah the the 2017 model. All right. Yeah. Yeah Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit It's one of the ways we figure out what to talk about each day You can submit your stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com And of course if you want to find the whole tech haul not just the LG gram Go subscribe to youtube.com slash lamar wilson even talk about these I'm just gonna skip past that. No, no, don't worry about it We kind of need to talk about those because the problem you were having hearing was the airpods wasn't Yeah, well, yeah, I clicked it was my fault. I clicked something over in the mac and it turned it turned siri on I think I accidentally clicked the siri And so when a microphone came on it then disabled me from you from me But but I have but I have to say just real quick. I was not a proponent of the airpods Uh, I finally got a pair of like that last week Besides me moving them a little bit here and some people have seen and watching me on the screen They haven't they don't really fall out. I've always had earbuds that fall out and the sound is great So I'm actually I'm actually sold on them as long as they stay in my ear Everyone I've told that to because I go jogging with mine and they're like they don't fall out I'm like they don't fall out of my ears. Now, maybe they'll fall out of yours Everybody's got different shape ears But it sounds like like your ears are good with them too And if they stay in your ears, honestly, the only negative thing I have to say about the airpods is that they look dumb But I'm thinking about it. I look completely ridiculous right now When I go jogging with the dog, sometimes I'll Sparking at me like yeah, look at you with the weird white things sticking out of your ears But how silly did did actual like earbud headphones look? I actually remember being self-conscious wearing those when they first came out Yeah, uh, because they looked weird, but we're all used to that now So maybe I don't know maybe they'll get a better design in future versions Or maybe we'll just get used to it Yeah, I think so Uh real quickly, uh, we've had uh, I've had the pleasure of being on Michael and Teresa blazes small business puzzle podcast and They wrote in to say that they have been invited to speak at the podcast movement this year The largest gathering of podcasters in the u.s They said we couldn't be more excited or more nervous for that matter But we've run into a challenge Our finances have been stretched to the limit this year and coming up with funds to pay for airfare lodging meals All that's a bit of a reach for us Especially because we've decided to take our special needs dud or mandy with us So we can take her to disneyland and maybe some of the other attractions while we're there We have to have a nurse watch her during the event because she requires a lot of care And we need to include that expense in our trip planning. So to raise the money we need for the event We've decided to go to a crowdfunding campaign with a lot of awesome rewards We'd greatly appreciate it if you could help us spread the word so we can meet our funding goal and the link is sbppodcast.com Slash cf and that'll take you right to their indiegogo Where michael and teresa are hoping to to get to the podcast movement, uh, and and here's awesome Yeah, so uh, go check it out And if you can kick them a dollar or two help them out and get them on their way And and mandy will appreciate it too awesome All right messages of the day. We've got a bunch of them today. Are you ready to talk some quantum computing lamar? You know, that's what I talk about exclusively in my channel. I know. Yes Worldwide is the quantum computing channel. Uh, well yesterday, uh, rob reed Mentioned the idea that one way to understand quantum computing is to think of it as A bunch of parallel universe versions of the quantum computer all coming up with a different solution And then the correct one cascading across all of them. So we all get the correct answer Now I mentioned at the time that if you know the math, that's not the proper way to explain this Liam wrote in deciding to take on the challenge of explaining it even better without the math So he starts off his email It's hard to explain without getting super mathy, but basically we're gonna run this by we're gonna give this the lamar test basically Quantum mechanics allows for probabilities to be complex numbers rather than just real numbers between zero and one so In classical probability if an event can happen in two ways You add up the probabilities And the resulting probability is the more likely right if there's two ways one of them is more probable than the other That's the end of it. That makes sense In quantum mechanics sometimes when you add those probabilities, they cancel each other out And the event doesn't happen Wrap your head around that The goal in quantum computing is to carefully set things up so that the probabilities of the wrong answers Cancel each other out This is really tricky And we only know how to do that for a few specific problems One of those problems being integer factorization using shore's algorithm Which is why quantum computers could be used to break encryption If quantum computers really did evaluate all possibilities in parallel, they wouldn't be limited to just a few problems They'd be able to solve almost any problem Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. I mean just just based on this and the math that that is, you know, I don't know what I'm talking about I was going to say did that did that explanation make sense? Did that help? Well, here's the thing. I I understood me because of my sci-fi love I understood the parallel universe one much better. See and that's why even though it's less accurate I think that's why people use that to explain it and and people who are when the quantum computers use it It's not Rob is not the only one he got it from people who work in that industry And and I'm not saying Liam's wrong and I admire Liam's attempt to say yeah But if you want to get closer to what's really going on, this is how you need to know So thank you Liam for for doing that. Uh, also in regards to our net neutrality episode last week We've got Preston from st. Johns, Newfoundland, Canada Saying I think the lake reference was maybe a bit off. I was comparing the internet saying It's not that AT&T owns the lake AT&T owns a dock and if you're on the google boat Or if you're on, you know, if you're you're on the if you want to get to the google dock You have to go across the lake. Anyway, he's got a better one. Preston says Uh, I believe you should look at an isp is owning a dock on the lake The customer as someone that would like to fish on that dock and sites and services like google as the fish This to me better illustrates how the internet should work and the turn this would mean that the isp would charge the person fishing What would also want to have the fish pay for having the chance to be caught? I mean, I like that that sounds silly, but it makes it makes sense. Yeah So there you go. If you if you like Preston's analogy, which I like although I mean there's problems with calling google fish because fish don't have active choice I I think right. Maybe I don't know Yeah, that's what we're but but Preston's got his own show Melancholy geek.com if you want to check it out and then josh and very sunny austin deep in the heart of texas Said in my career as a firefighter We as agents of a local government frequently make access to places of businesses and private residences using a knocks key This one key carried on most fire apparatus in many parts of the us Let's us access any keys placed in a knocks box and allow us to quickly help our citizens in a timely fashion While avoiding having to do undue damage to the property. This is a government implemented Backdoor, but here's where the analogy breaks down participation in the knocks box system is voluntary and in fact costs the property owners Because they have to purchase and have the box installed And it's an ongoing commitment on their part to provide up to date keys key cards and contact info to that box And the knocks keys are secured in an electronic vault that require the firefighter removing that key to enter a personal pin To access it which is recorded Earlier versions required the responding unit to request a release code be transmitted through radio from a dispatch center Finally, we have to not only have the knocks key. We have to be in proximity of the knocks address to be able to use it I don't know that that helps us in our encryption debate, but it sure is interesting that there's that whole knocks Yeah, I was just more interested in in that process Said i'm just knocking the door down. It's actually kind of cool. Yeah, it's good to know about Uh redacted in northern virginia And if you know anything about where what things are in northern virginia, you'll understand why this is redacted Said an episode 3072 on thursday You talked about kaspersky labs being removed from the gsa list and the impact this would have on kaspersky's business I work for a cyber security company and focus on the u.s Government and I can honestly say that this probably will have minimal direct impact on their business As I have never run into a single u.s government organization He uses anything from kaspersky and would be very surprised if there were any This is like the opposite of saying nobody was ever fired for choosing IBM as the old marketing campaign goes Kaspersky has never had a trusted reputation in the government And there's very little upside for a security organization to choose kaspersky with all of the fears of russian government connections that have always persisted A few years ago kaspersky even opened a subsidiary in the us kgs tasked with doing business with government organizations And they shut down after making very little headway at all where this might stand to impact kaspersky's business is in reputation With u.s companies based on the russian government fears But even that isn't really new this interest really a new stance by the u.s Government and isn't a major shift in how kaspersky is viewed here or elsewhere There we go completed a whole email without adding my own commentary on kaspersky's trustworthiness. Well, redacted Got it Yeah, I When I when I registered I was thinking I said man, I think I used them back in the day You know like was was it like virus scanner or malware? Absolutely. Yeah, and so Uh, are they are they banned like I didn't really understand the story. Are they completely banned like us they are they are off the approved list So it means that government agencies can easily Uh buy services from kaspersky They they could do it if they really wanted to work at it, but basically redacted here says They didn't really want to buy their services in the beginning anyway, so nobody's gonna do that So yeah, so but us as consumers and somebody wanted to still still download The price is not blocked unless you're working in a government position and you're using it for government work It wouldn't affect you at all. Yeah, sure. Okay, uh, finally. Do you remember the sony dash? We talked about it recently because the amazon echo show reminded a bunch of people of the dash very very vaguely Yeah, so the chumby and the dash were of the last decade era They were little smart devices with screens, right? That's why the echo show reminds people of those Larry the or nurse wrote in from the weather is always great in white stuff, arizona Do you know larry or do you know that you remember the dash? I I'm looking at pictures. I'm gonna do that now. I thought maybe you knew larry the orner. Sorry larry I don't know you uh sony has finally discontinued support for the dash internet connected device They pushed a mandatory software update that has a 50 50 chance of breaking the device If the update is successful the dash becomes a simple alarm clock sounds like a poorly implemented update Uh, there is still hope that dash may still be usable if duane with blue octi at chumby.com has anything to say about it He has kept the chumby devices active after they shut down their service years ago This brings me to the question What happens when echo google home and all these other internet of things devices go dark Will someone be able to carry on with the services duane is still not sure he'll be able to pull off a miracle But it's trying valiantly Sony has the device locked down tight and third party's interested in keeping them alive We'll need to be able to modify the code to make it work A group of dash users are putting beta software through its paces to see if the dash can still be a viable internet connected device So there is hope if any of the listeners have a dash that has been bricked by the update There's a free download to bring it back to the previous version of firmware And hopefully be able to use the dash again when chumby.com releases an official update for it That can be found on the chumby.com forums under sony dash So interesting about you know the the work to keep the dash and the chumby going and instructive Because you know i'm tempted to say well the echo show i mean the amazon's behind that amazon's not going anywhere Well, sony didn't go anywhere either sony didn't go out of business They just stopped supporting the dash Yeah, i was going to say you know these these big companies that doesn't apply to these big companies, but i was like wait a minute sony Huge company. Yeah, it's it's it's a little scary. Especially if you invest, you know, like you like i've invested my First it was an echo now i'm invested in a google home and you know, i got all these devices and yeah What happens when they when they go dark? I mean, yeah, did i get did i get Did i get my money's worth and that's okay google's famous for moving on to a new platform, right? Maybe they'll change the future, but what if they decide ah home didn't sell very well So we're moving on to this new thing and we're deactivating home devices. I mean, I hope that doesn't happen, but uh, there there needs to be Plans for that that are easier than having like a chumby.com try to come in and crack the code Exactly. Yeah, well, thank you. Lamar wilson as always for joining us as i mentioned youtube.com slash lamar wilson To ours in lamar go there watch videos then subscribe anything in particular to tell folks about Uh, I mean if if you're in any remote it like into like i've been pushing more gaming type content Not gameplay to don't throw you off and like, you know, you're not watching me play games But i'm i'm really into you know, nintendo and xbox stuff some some ps4 Hey, here's a here's another category that is my interest your your tech people I'm I was looking at my older videos and I was noticing Man, it's been since 2015 since apple came up with that Uh, I think it was 2015. They came up with with that. Um What was an apple tv with the and they were pushing the the whole game thing, right, right? You know, you know, you know what the controller can be your game and yeah, and it's just been pretty quiet I mean you can of course there's still games coming out that that support the apple tv But you don't hear any anything pushed about Not all of us Yeah, and I just like you know what they came out with something that Really should have scared the industry they basically came out with a console And and i'm surprised they haven't really pushed us I'm it's one of my projects and on the site is really try to see how How this apple tv is you know can also be a killer to anybody but just kind of feel that that niche of that casual gamer who Who just wants to play what they play on their tablet or phone but under on their big nice OLED screen So testing those things out seeing how they work. Yeah, yeah, absolutely So so i'm always i'm interested in that kind of so it's definitely still technology, but just what a gaming gaming angle Well, go check it out at youtube.com slash lamar wilson Thanks to everybody who supports this show if you support at any level at patreon.com slash dtns You get access to an rss set feed that includes the pre and post show I don't even remember what we were talking about the pre show today lamar. Do you? um Not the second Damn, but but it was it was it was good Yeah, it was real good. In fact, I do remember but i'm not gonna tell you you have to be a subscriber to find out Uh, no seriously though if you get any value from the show We we would just ask you to give a little value back to support the show and we do extra things like that That special rss feed and business cards at certain levels and stuff like that at patreon.com slash dtns Thank you everyone who supports us. 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Just making sure because hang on continue No, I'm still fascinated by the sony dash because I heard about I like I'm looking at it I'm looking at the pictures, but I don't remember when it came out Yeah, it came out after the chumby I remember the name Kind of right the dash solid Oh, like I think amazon literally ripped us off 199 bucks for no, I'm like, I'm looking at the angle. No, I know right the way That's why it reminds people of that Huh Yeah, it's it looks almost identical. Oh my god. Oh, it announced it at the 2010 ces I thought it was more like last decade, but it was actually like seven years ago. Okay It's more recent than I would have thought Are you using your your show? Um Lately And then I use it every day I love I love seeing the little headlines come across. I have a St. Louis Cardinals baseball calendar So I know when the games are going to be on and it'll show me scores when they're playing and What do you keep the kitchen? Yeah, I keep mine in the kitchen because I intend to use it for recipes, although I haven't really done that yet Yeah, that's that's kind of where I have I I'm still battling between The the google versus that the amazon and I haven't made a decision yet But if I go if I go amazon, I may I like I like the concept of it so much that I would be willing to To put them in multiple rooms like like buying a few more of those to replace the actual echo So I had that one in the kitchen and I moved it into the living room and now I use it to turn on the tv and turn off the lights Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I use my the google one was easier to set up for that But yeah, the amazon they clean up their software. So now it's easier. It was a pain in the butt before No, I used to set up. Well, they just changed it. So I don't have to for the for the logitech harmony. Anyway, I don't have to say Tell harmony to turn on the tv. I can just say turn on the tv and it knows nice Yeah, I had to fix that for google because google what I had to say tell harmony which Okay, don't turn on I just say tell harmony, but they have they have these They can call shortcuts where you can actually write in your own shortcuts. Oh, that's kind of nice. I like that So I I did that and I could say turn on tv titles Yeah, what's your favorite? Uh, the top of the heap is amazon prime rib. No, I want to know your favorite Hmm Like amazon's meals on wheels Amazon's meal ticket But that makes lavar and I feel very old night scope robot takes a crash dive Yeah, oh, that was a big enough story night scope isn't the same as night writer. There's no No Robo-signal on the face. Who's the best gamer in this place? Oh my god Um I keep forgetting you have a uh Well, yeah and old to my mom, uh, uh the lg mom I've get you a live audience too bad. It's not your grandma. That would be the lg grandma. Oh, that would have been perfect Drone fishing the lg grandma security robot makes a splash You messed up on that one Fish neutrality Can you hear me now? I don't know because it's uh, it was a I like the amazon theme once Yeah, that's pretty funny. I also like amazon's meals on wheels Yeah, either one of those sounds cool gets me but i'm not making the decision Let's go meals on wheels That that fits the we talked about that quite a bit too I'm not big on the they give you the ingredients and you cook it if you're gonna get the I've tried it No, I just it sounds like work. What's the whole point? I might as well just pick what I mean It I've I've done it and it's great. It saves you work Here's the thing if you're comparing it to I order food and it's delivered to me or I put a microwave meal in then yes It is definitely more work, but if you're comparing it to I cooked a meal myself It's way better because you don't have to shop for the Ingredients you don't have to measure them out and all the steps are right there Yeah, if you need 10 reasons you gotta go buy a box of raisins Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the thing is I always make enough so I have leftovers for lunch or the following day's dinner Like if it's just enough for one or like even two people it wouldn't be enough Such bad food and such large portions such small portions Hey, hey, hey when I cook it's completely edible I'm sure it is Every hello fresh and I've used them both meal that I've made is probably better than one I would have made on my own Well, mostly are you gonna learn nothing for me? It also it kind of helps you learn. That's the other thing is I've learned some tricks. I'm like, oh, that's really what I would like is to have a Chef like like a beginner chef 101 spice rack where it just has every spice you'll need because really that's where I I flub up on it's not these things they give you exactly the spices I know but the amounts you need and then you learn about the spices and you can go buy the spices to Give you the spice in a large enough quantity so you could use it for both of the things The players spice rack they're trying they're trying to make it easy for you the spice must flow tom That's one thing I've learned you ridiculous roger This isn't spice spice delivery. This is not dune Well, I think you've unfortunately I think you've accidentally come up with an idea for a startup though The spice must flow the arachas spice And then you have girls you have girls deliver it Get it get spice. Okay, spice. You could have a sporty one and then We I could get the one that lives out in LA and she could deliver it Yeah, she just got into a divorce and she'll tell you what you want what you really really want Is marjoram What's the what's the really expensive one from um, not tumeric itself No The one that's like they grow a lot of in iran, but it's like really hard to get out That's very It's you add it with rice Saffron, you know, you know, oh You totally did this thing where you criticize something for for something it was never meant to do Yes Because they don't they don't stock my spice rack Oh, I'm not criticizing the service. I'm criticizing the idea behind it I think the idea behind it's very solid. It's just not one that benefits you and that's that's reason I get it It's it's it's definitely for like the single guy or the newly married couple type of or child situation where or chowless No, yeah, I wonder because because that's you know, we enjoy it too, but we also don't have children So I wonder if families would get a benefit from this or if that's another service where they're like Here's the family friendly one that's really easy to put together But it's better tasting fresher food for your family Because that's the other thing is a lot of people aren't going to buy really High quality ingredients if they didn't use this kind of stuff right Maybe that's what they should sell high high quality ingredients. Well, they do Yeah, that's why the prices aren't 10 bucks a meal. Yeah, I know yeah 10 bucks I can just buy a Well, the It's another convenience. It's not I shop like an elderly asian male This meal delivery service not save me money Also, it doesn't shop fish for me. Hey, listen, I can get a burger I can get a perfectly roast roasted chicken from cosco for five bucks You do you really want to go to cosco every day school? No, I go to cosco every other week Who goes to okay, but okay, so you stock up on the roasted chickens I stock up on the roasted chicken when I get there I have to fight the line of Of middle-aged ladies waiting for the chickens to be delivered. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. See. I don't know that's worth it Don't knock it until you've tried it. I've done it at sam's club No, no, no from cosco Try it I think it's not the chicken is actually incredibly good. I don't know. I have no no No, no compared to lakes compared to what you get out of a supermarket any other rotisserie It's really good. Like it's not like the crappy costo pizza that's that's Edible and the thing that I don't like about the cosco roasted chicken is it doesn't stock my spice rack No, I go to the spice aisle tom and pick up the spice while I pay while I get the chicken the same The chicken is already the chicken is already spiced wait Just cook it for you at that point there was a really good one in uh, um Uh service What was I'm trying to remember the name of it where you basically it's the same concept Except they do all the prep you just stick it in the oven You take it out of the package. Just stick it in the oven for like 30 minutes, whatever how long it says on the on the That's my chance. No, I don't think about all my kind of cooking amazon meal kit. Hello fresh blue paper. None of them are about convenience Except over doing all of it yourself. They're more convenient than than having to go shop for the ingredients and find the recipe yourself But they are not more convenient than any other option you could pick well and it's And that's my point is it's like it's not convenient enough for me Yeah, actually Because for me it's like I can I can go buy the ingredients and I do this right and and and create meals I can do a macaroni and cheese. I can I can do a salmon Uh But the hello fresh meal that I got was more convenient because I didn't have to go Find all of these ingredients and then buy. Oh, they only sell a whole thing of this instead of the two that I need Right and figure out what to do with the rest. Oh, I can only get a big carton of parmesan cheese So it's it's better for me in that case, but you're right It's not going to be better in a lot of other cases and Ethan Cain in the chat room is pointing out He's like at 20 dollars for two Uh, I have a family that would cost 80 dollars You know, we can go to Olive Garden for that price Yeah, yeah Just just a little just a low insider tip for someone used to work there don't eat the red sticks Love to tell that story I love it because it's true from my experience back in the late 90s working at that restaurant If you want Italian you go to an Italian restaurant If you need to feed a lot of people and it's free Red sticks and soup just get the soup Yeah, because hey again These uh these meal these meal kit type things are not Money saving they're not They're not generally time the most time saver. They are I want to have a high quality home cooked meal At a and an easier level Then I would be able to agree with that if it wasn't just If the portions actually took into account that some people like it enough They would have it Again instead of just read by for example instead of you can buy the same kit again And you can actually you can actually Decide like how how large of a meal do you want to have so that you could cook it twice? You can do that. You can customize that And then here's the other thing is you can take those recipes and you can go shop for them yourself and make them yourself too Like so as you just get the recipes Because you've got walked through it something that you might not have done otherwise now you actually know how to do it and you you Trust me. You haven't done this. That's why you don't understand is that you start to realize. Okay So that's the amount that that is that's that's how much it looks and and that sticks in your in your brain I'm incredibly skeptical tom. I know you are won't you just like get one I Feed you ever try feeding the kid one of those meals. You don't know get the kid Something from from the local girl. Like I don't know crack would have been the local grocery store I will take roger's side of like I don't want to have to cook two meals. I get that No, no, just get how old is your baby get a kid milking and apple juice. That's it. That's fine You and your wife eat well that that day You know Derek kid doesn't eat the gourmet meal. Listen if a kid doesn't eat well, you're gonna hear about it from the kid I have no idea what's going on Yeah, here's a cure. He's a gourmet carrot here. Enjoy this There you go. And this is why I don't have kids This is why you just put it with a bowl in the corner and just tell them to have at it. Yeah, just eat this Yeah, you'll be fine They all know that's hilarious All right, uh, thank you everybody for uh hanging out with us. Perhaps you're on roger's side of this issue Perhaps you're on uh lamar's side of valerys children Perhaps Uh, in any case, we're very happy that you took some time and hung out with us and we will see you tomorrow