 Welcome back. This is still wine the morning. Today is all about the thousands of vibes and now it is that time We are taking you to the innovators to the technology segment. Well today we have someone special for you You know, we have our own innovators and you want to embrace them because they have such great talent and we believe that they're going to be the next you know Elon Musk. So Do you remember about the old telephone booths? Well, if you do then we have something similar a similar concept today But that's our Wi-Fi vending machine and we have both course so me for that But before we get into this conversation, we want to ask you a question today Love and it has their vibes. It's Nikita Ghani Okay, achieve what I do. I will make it. That's the question. You are asking you so talk to us at Y254 channel that is on Facebook on Instagram and Twitter so tell us what is that one thing when you achieve you know that you have made it any mini Mefika, I am good. The hashtag is First devives my personal handle is that Stephanie. I yet if you want to reach me So now let's get into the conversation Bosco. Yes, Carrivo. Thank you very much. We are glad to have you I'm humble. I'm happy to be here. All right So you are an innovator. You are the founder and director of sky digital. Yes, I am so tell us a bit about sky digital. Well sky digital was established in the year 2017 with aim of empowering youths or enabling youths PWDs and the larger vulnerable community members to be self-employed through innovation I saw them for the longest time. I realized that we don't have people really don't Sit down to explore the opportunities or the talents that they have. All right, and And this came to me after I'd lost my job. My job September So it became it was a bit of a challenge getting to where I am now But with persistence and perseverance I made it to where I am and so far the few youths who've been able to adapt the innovation Actually a self-employed. All right, we'll get into you know Those that have benefited from this particular innovation But you want to know do you have a back down car in you know tech IT? Before you started this innovation. Yeah, yes, I do previously I was employed in a different organization for over 10 years and I was a sales and marketing. I was a national sales coordinator Then I became my regional sales manager in South Africa and then after I lost my job life became difficult, but For the longest time I had passion for tech Oh, you so it's the passion that you have passion that drove me to into this industry So I decided to you know what empower myself with more knowledge about tech. Okay, and be able to come up with something unique So the knowledge that you empowered yourself with how did you get it was itself taught Online did you go to school? Yeah, yeah, you have to kind of go to school for that, you know and your creativity is very key Because this is not the only solution that I came up with some have flopped badly We want to know about those Because you know some people to know and tell me make it so then we feel like ah This thing you corner when you but you don't know the process that you know the journey behind it Yeah, yeah, so we want to know about the failure after you tell us about the journey You know from inception how you came about with this particular technology All right, so as I said the concept actually the concept came to me in 2016 And then I started you know trying to figure out how it can work So in the process I was still studying trying to also gain the knowledge that I could gain Online remember I lost my job in the process. So you lost your job in 2016. No, I lost my job in 2014 14 Yes, so two years without a job. Two years without a job. I'm a breadwinner. All right. I have bills to take care of life is just Bad hard. Yes, and it came from up to down like south really really south. You go to rock bottom rock bottom and In the process of all this You know being the breadwinner by the end of the day use the society still looks actually like we need to provide for your family There's no excuse about it. Okay, so I struggled had the best record Nobody could employ me anymore simply because anyway went to look for employment. They kept on telling me you're overqualified Wow, I don't know being overqualified is another problem. It's a huge problem for a lot of people because how do you un-qualify yourself? Wow, you can't you can't you can't Realize clearly. I don't think someone anyone will ever employ me So I decided to figure out what I can do to build myself and be my family. So in the process I I had Me as an individual in mind at that point then later on I suddenly said no wait a minute When I was employed I should support a lot of people the same people still come back to me Okay, and the same brothers and sisters that are supporting in different capacities. We have this the same problem They're facing is the same problem all the youths face across the country and in Africa. It's a common problem So I decided lack of employment and employment. Yes unemployment. Okay, so I mean like I love what the government is doing I support them 100% but not everyone is cut out for white collar jobs. All right, the universities we have produced brilliant brains We have over 50,000 people who graduate every other year from not wrong, but after that, what do you do? You end up Doing other shady jobs, which you're not cut out for you know, I think that's why CBC has been introduced to help You know to empower us to believe you know to empower the young ones That they can actually start their own You know opportunities create their own employment sure sure. All right So in the process I started building the machines and it became a bit a challenge simply because one at one point I could not afford to buy the raw materials. So I started going to death. I Went into debt that it was too much that One time my madame told me my friend what you're thinking of doing cannot be done here Not only just alone, but a lot of people. So you were told here you is the Kenya Bezos exactly so it was a challenge for the longest time and I found myself even now selling Silaking things in the house simply because I was just passionate about it so one day I Everyone comes home and find me and my table alone. I've sold everything. Wow. Yes You are this serious. Oh, yeah, I thought you were crazy because way They thought of taking me for counseling No, you're on another level because you are employed. I'm selling things I'm telling you this won't work in Kenya. I mean loans over one point something to two million and I kept on borrowing and borrowing and boring and Simply because I just felt it would work And I tried to work out you know as I'm borrowing I'm trying to put food on the table and I'm you know, these are debts and they're piling up and eventually when they catch up with you It's it's nasty, you know so and I was kicked out from the house I used to live in and Then because I live in that house for about 10 years or so and then I went to another area And then life became really really really tough for me, but I thank God my perseverance and persistence Paid off at one point. All right, so after the longest hardest hardest part One day when now even the house I moved into I was being kicked out My landlord comes and before he gets there the dub thing works now Black magic So I had to also, you know acquire a bit of other knowledge from different people Yeah Different areas because the components I was using at all different components Okay, and this something has all been done here before Okay, so you've told us about the journey, but people are wondering what Innovation is this so maybe explain to us a bit on the Wi-Fi vending machine how it's how it works So first let me start with the first one that's locked. Okay. Yes, so I I came up with this Decoder you remember when Kenya was moving from analog to digital to digital. Yes So I thought of coming up with a digital an analog. Sorry at the quarter, but it seemed to enable Love to be on repair That didn't work didn't work but it kind of works in a way, but I could not I had no capacity of scaling up Okay, and that very time it was only go TV If you buy other things from any other company it was frozen And I think you can remember that the media the doll covered Yeah, and then I got into this now. I decided I started on ask myself. There's so much online opportunities We have brilliant brains in this country The biggest challenge the face is lack of employment. So they don't have funds to be able to go to school So they cannot I mean they end up not being able to explore the online opportunities So I started on I said to myself how about I reverse the whole thing because when you buy bundles from any Telecommunication company of your choice you get usage based Okay, usage is based. That's like when you load your bundles for 10 bucks. Okay Before you know, it's a short duration. It has depleted. All right. Yeah, so like you can buy Let me get you straight so you can buy like our bundles for 20 shillings for one hour Maybe as an example Yes And then when I use it it gets depleted in like 30 minutes because maybe I've been on instagram on youtube It depletes faster than you know the time that was allocated for it Yeah, okay. In most cases might even deploy before even you're using it Yes, simply because you find that the applications on your phone updating so So it consumes faster. All right, and you find that this 10 buck is good to a lot of views outside there We have you too can barely live on kind of for the dollar day And the mini with economy especially exactly. All right. So I started I said to myself if I can reverse The whole thing to be time-based It can be better. So I came up with a Wi-Fi vending machine That commercializes internet and offers time-based internet time based time based explain time based Now time base is even it's even better because now when you with your 10 buck You can get internet for as low as for as low as 10 bucks for 60 minutes. That's one hour Okay, okay with your 10 buck. All right So within the within the hour one come browse stream socialize do whatever you want to download your reading material Do it all all right But in the event you feel like you want to leave the coverage because each internet Each machine comes with an outdoor antenna that covers 100 meters radius There's an option that allows you to pause the time Leave the coverage come back even a year later and continue with the remaining balance. Okay This is interesting. Let me get you again. Okay. So let me take you back. So I buy Uh bundles I with 10 shillings or time time. Yes same based bundles internet. Yes time based internet with 10 shillings For one hour. Yes, that's 60 minutes. So in case I use it For 30 minutes. Yes, my other and I want to go away because it's uh limited to 100 100 meters radius 100 meters radius. Yes. So in case I want to to leave I pause I go for one week and then I come back Continue with my 30 the remaining come back even a year later a year later And this internet is unlimited. So it can be streaming from youtube, netflix, instagram everywhere. Do it all. Okay. Yeah Remember I'm not on isp isp's internet service providers for the viewers whom I don't know what that means Um, so for one to actually operate the machine they require to outsource for internet for many isp of their choice To commercialize it through the machine. Um, am I making it clear? Yes. Yes Just like the current vending machines we have in the market. We have milk atm's. We have Like a water refill vending machines coca cola. They don't come with actual end product All right, so I with my products with the wife of any machine you outsource for internet Then you commercialize it through it and uh in a larger scale So an example is that uh, I've bought this machine. So I need to go to an isp Maybe safari come air tell tell come and source for internet. Yes, and then now I do the commercialization Yes, yes. All right. So, okay. So uh after that, what happens? How do I make profit from this? Good. Now first and foremost Um, I believe you've never gone an hour or two without checking your whatsapp, right? Or your phone. Well I can't lie. Yes Okay, so um, and probably the biggest challenge you face like maybe you're a rich gang You might be able to find the big bundles, but there are people who cannot afford that. Remember internet is quite addictive right now All right and second A lot of people wish to be online 24 hours, but they can't Yeah, and you know with the schools, there's a lot of e-learning going on a lot of businesses that are, you know People are working online. Yes. Yes, and you find that like the with the covid pandemic A lot of youths have embraced the online opportunities a lot of them and some of them do online transcriptions There's there's a lot online learning and they are really really benefiting from it. Okay So, uh, so this technology is making it easier for people way way easier way way easier And in fact, we take it Being a commercial machine is something that you take it to machine and level All right, so they don't need to think of coming to Nairobi Where it's cheaper Yeah, so they can access they can access it from there wherever they are Yes, and the youth running the business can earn revenue from there Yes All right So, how do I make profit from it? Uh, as the you know business person because I bought this machine. Yes It's affordable to the ones that I'm selling it to but how do I make profits from it? Good So the machine comes with a lot of amazing features that one will even allow you as the administrator To be able to monitor it remotely By that I mean it comes with a web platform that will allow you to monitor it remotely You'll be able to know the number of users using it remotely You'll be able to know the revenue collected remotely There's also a space for even running an advert that whenever anyone logs in they see an advert running So that's another channel of someone making revenue. Okay. Now and many other features. Okay Now, how do you make profit? We have already established that internet is the new oil Yeah Now um One machine can support up to 4 000 users within 100 meters radius at a go 4 000 users. Yes. Wow. Okay. So if you do that into 10 book 40k An hour an hour for 4 000 users times 10. That's huge. That's huge. So you get around 40 000 That's 40 000 an hour an hour. Okay. So realistically you might not get all these people at the same time Fair enough. All right. So again as I said The how you make profit will also depend with the capacity of internet you are forced for to resell through the machine I'm making myself clear. Good. For for instance During my Building this machine. I learned a lot of challenges that people don't ice please. We never tell you Okay, whenever you buy like for instance, you'll buy your internet for your house. I'm avoiding mentioning company names I don't want to start war with it Whenever you buy say example your 5 mbps. All right Sometimes you find that maybe few two people or three people you're streaming and then the third person or fourth person start complaining There's buffering or it is downtime and all that. Okay Now what people don't know is that internet acts very funny Okay, whenever like uh, when you're logged into a heavy website like youtube or Instagram or something It pulls internet one side All right, so you find that if we have one mbps And i'm on youtube you might not be able to even send a simple email now Yes, okay, so that is a challenge that i've realized So there's what a feature that allows you as the administrator to set a download threshold that will allow you or help you To be able to stretch this one mbps to be used by not only one person But seven people and it won't be slow. No simply because you'll be setting a download threshold that Whether is downloading There's a sudden speed that get equally and everyone will stream comfortably or rather enjoy the internet comfortably Okay, so this is one of the packs that comes with it. Sure. Yes, okay Yeah, so now if you have set a download threshold and you have uh five mbps Uh, so you're looking at five mbps times seven you're looking at 35 people Okay, so if that five people are giving you ten book Ten book how much is that 350? Okay, vis-a-vis not having the machine and you are having three You see now the math Yes, it makes a lot of sense. Yes. Well, this is quite interesting But we'll take a short break and then we'll get back to how this machine actually works. We'll do a practical you know a practical Lesson if we can put it like that because we want to see if this is real or is just You know talk So let's take a short break. Remember the question. You're asking you today is I've made it I'm done I can you know because I have achieved everything The hashtags you use is thousands of vibes are to y254 will be back shortly As divides, uh, that is the hashtag at y254 channel and the question you are asking you What is that one thing you can achieve So talk to us converse with us across the social platforms. Meanwhile, uh, we are talking about technology and an interesting innovation Clearly, this is it the wi-fi vendor machine All right, before we get into this, what is that one thing that we can achieve? You make it Okay achieve that one thing that you're looking for to achieve and then when you achieve it, you know, you have many women make it If all the jobless youth in Africa That is Amazing amazing. So, okay, show us how it works But before we start again Optioning We're using the coins Digital currency now that you know someone might ask Yes, yes, that is basically Okay And then you'll tell us about how it works All right, now as I said it comes with an outdoor antenna that covers 100 meters radius. So this is the outdoor antenna Each individual who logs into the wi-fi The wi-fi is locked to the marker versus the devices. Okay, meaning makes it a very suitable In most cases you find that But whenever the log into the wi-fi um, you find that They're able to what's for to share the internet. Okay, let me let me stop you just for a little bit I go to See what people are saying on the chat as we you know fix one or two things here Uh, so what are you guys saying about the question of today? Let's check it out So, I I have made it Name if you come we show I nobody can tell me anything at this point. So let's see. Let's see. Let's see what you're saying for me I don't know What is that one thing for me? What is that one thing for me? I think I would want to Name me Nicky achieve nearly I get Uh, I think I would want to Get a good house You know a castle Get good cars, but you know also empower people Uh, the youths out there who are looking for opportunities and looking to Find themselves in their career. So I think that is that Nikifika, Nikif Pataizawa, I think I'll be good to go as I check the comments Watch a medley a kutuma and then we take a short break and we'll be back to sample some of the comments And to know how this device works. So let's take a short music break Yes. Yes. Enjoying the music. Well entertainment is about to come up in just a few but Uh, let's sample some of the comments that uh, you have written Uh on the question that to Moulisa What is that one thing? Uh, that took you achieve with a joke. Well, you may make it Uh, someone uh sector part of says good morning. Why to fight for show equal feety? Now a cheque Well, this is good, uh, we wish the best, uh, selector Well Okay, well And there's someone who says when I become a pastor where I start a business Someone says having life all throughout. Well, it's the simple things for others. We appreciate that So keep your comments coming in minua. We have bosco telling us about this innovation that we have here Which is the wi-fi vendor machine and how it works So clearly as you can see it it resembles the old telephone booths when you happen to talk to an English Okay, miss quiet era, but What are you doing? Payphone Take us through this now. So the procedure of accessing internet internet from this device or machine is quite quite simple It's a user friendly system With mean that with minimal training any individual can actually run the business You don't need to have any um IT background and all that So I've done all the donkey work and yours is just plug and play plug and play Plug and play. Okay. So I want us to jump into a live demo And I want to do it with your phone. Sure. Is that okay? Yeah, sure. So that our audience can be able to See how actually it works. All right. Okay. So what we'll do Uh switch on your wi-fi. I hope you can see this Okay Uh-huh. I switch on my long press on the icon I long press so that it gives you options of the wi-fi is available. Uh-huh. What can you see? I can see olax lte. You can see tp link. Click on tp link tp link. Yes All right Has it given you a pop-up or directed you to a different page? Uh, it's still loading IP address connected connected What has anything happened there? I tap here to sign internet. Yes, do that. So, okay Sign into network loading So actually you some of that. Yes. One does not require to download any app for this So it comes with an online app basically. Okay. So I don't need to download the app. So it says space Okay. So once you get to that page first thing you see is the adverse running so you can see photos So that's the one area one can make actually undraven from All right. So if you scroll up the different options Of insert coin and use wi-pass. Yes. Okay insert coin is basically when you want to now access the machine or internet And then wi-pass is wi-fi password Okay, whereby you can generate passwords customize them print them and sell them as credit So is this for me the customer or for me the business person you the customer. Okay Yeah, the the administrator's got his own back back end support platform That allows him to customize and play around with all this or have in mind the 10 the 60 minutes For 10 book is not custom stone. It's not like that. So if one requires They feel like maybe the 60 minutes is too much For for 10 book They can be able to reduce it. Okay. So the back end support has got full mandate or full authority to be able to play around with that You can equally add one time or deduct time from them If if you feel that it's it's convenient for you. So the power lies with the administrator. Yes, sure So I want us to access the the internet. So click insert coin on your phone insert coin. All right All right, take any of them coins here about to get free wi-fi Inside there. Yes Take your phone Wow, okay. I'll take another one Let me take 20 shillings. Yeah, it's that Uh-huh Wow, so for 30 shillings you have three hours of internet. Wow. Yeah, so click go online the first one Go online. Yes. So three hours go online. Yes Client has been connected successfully. All right What are you saying? It has taken me back to the wi-fi Page. Okay. That's okay So it's cancelled and try and download play anything youtube instagram. Whatever. Where do we where do we go? Let's go to facebook Where you have your comments So, yes, it's actually working because my uh, bundles is off. So this is just wi-fi Yeah, we can see the comments Coming up to become the biggest youtuber Niki do not upload it. That is peter. Okay. Let's check youtube to confirm because you know I always believe youtube is in some way. Yes youtube need a some way, you know. Yeah So Let's check something. Let's Loading career talk y244 This is interesting. It's actually loading Of course the youtube ads Loading this is actually working skip ad We have drum a go go right there on youtube So and other things that are there So quite interesting. Thank you. We have confirmed it is indeed true. It works Wow, this is interesting. So, um How do I purchase this if one wants to purchase this and tell us what this is right over here? Okay As I mentioned earlier on for one to run the business one requires to after securing the machine You need to outsource for internet for many isp of your choice to be able to resell and this will entirely depend also with the region You are in and available isp. Okay. Like for instance Let me use zuku. Zuku is very strong in aerobic and other parts of the country. They're not Okay, so you depending with the isp within your locality You can be able to outsource for internet from them and be able to resell through the machine Now this is an outdoor antenna again that covers 100 meters radius It's a it's a dual band antenna. That would be a bit technical But it can support in layman's language. I'll probably use 2g 3g 4g. Okay. Yes. All right Now in this case, we're just using my small router here for demo purposes, which is a source of internet This is a smaller version just for demo purposes because you can fit in my bag I can walk around with it comfortably the standard size is double the size The machine retails at 55,000 one off And once you set it up You're able to in I mean you we advise you rather advice you on the places you can set up the machine For instance advice my clients to target public universities colleges When you gave me this what you said when I got to hear about this I was thinking I wish it had come when I was back in the university because I would have been you know quite rich right now You know how I'd like to say yes, if you can if you can target places like that like the public hospitals Like most public hospitals don't have wi-fi, but then again the population is extremely high. I'll give you an example Talk of mama Lucy hospital This year thousand people walk in walk out daily convert that into revenue 10k a day. Okay. Comfortably. Mm-hmm. How how much uh Okay, how many people rather have bought this or how many employment opportunities Well, I have the The market response in the country is not as high as I'm expecting as I'm getting from outside I've gotten inquiries as far as Jamaica And I've sent five to Jamaica Okay, we've got we have had clients who came older from Uganda Tanzania There's some guys who came from Nigeria So the guys outside the country are responding well to this as opposed to here So, you know country have not embraced it as much as not as much as yes, but there's what is now is interesting, you know, I'm currently In a partnership and a special spc That's a special company purpose a purpose company has been formed And we look at now looking at now how we can be able to work with youths now across the country They might not be able to purchase but with this special purpose company We will looking at now giving them as like seed capital to be able to empower themselves with it So youths Bought out. Wow. This is good. It's coming now like say for free almost. All right. So what can they find you when you know This comes up and they want to be part of that I'm assuming that would be the the social media and whatnot. Yes. Okay. Um, I'm on facebook sky digital striking I think I'm on facebook alone. I don't know why instagram. I don't know I guess I'm old school like that. Okay. Yeah, um My number I can offer my give my number as well. I'm always happy to respond to anyone any day anytime And I'm sure you guys are watched even across in different countries, right? My number is 0721 861010 And for the the guys who from outside the country is plus 254 then 721 8610 10 Okay, but you know before we we leave we want to know if I purchase this in a kujarje Like is it connected if I'm Trying to buy it for you know, my apartment in a kujarje nahi nahi nahi And then I just buy the modem or how does it work and the connection? Okay. Just to answer that You know, a lot of people assume That you can wife I can work anywhere. All right This machine comes with a not do antenna which which means this antenna is an out door It's made for outside. We have indoor antennas All right. So depending with where you want to set it up. I advise accordingly Okay, if supervision or a survey needs to be done I can do that as well and I advise on what to do. Okay, but if you secure this machine It comes the machine plus the antenna and it's adapter The machine the antenna and it's adapter. It's adapter. So what rely needs to purchase extra apart from their getting to the ISP Since um, I might not be able to know the areas or the place you want to set up the machine I advise my clients to outsource for ethernet cables. These are the cables for connecting this simply because I've had clients who have Secured the machine and you find that they put the antenna like Some meters away from the machine All right, so that's distance. It's difficult to predict that so and and the ethernet cables are what 30 bup a meter So it's relatively affordable So apart from that, uh, you need power and the internet to result through it and you're good to go Okay, so at 55,001 off I make profits from it. You're good to go. Oh f y just for information The machine is equally certified by cak. That is communication authority of Kenya. Yes. So it's legit So after my money is here, uh, there's a condo behind this place. So You cannot find any collect so you collect it later on All right, so thank you For coming on board and sharing with us Your innovation what would be your advice for the youth who want to be innovative start something of their own their own How would you say to them? Okay, I have two things for any individual not just the youth. All right first and foremost It is okay to fail after trying but never fail to try It's okay to fail after to fail after trying but never fail to try because like that You'd have never known what you could have achieved. All right And second don't listen to people If you have that gut feeling that it can work Like for instance, a lot of people try to put me down Simply telling me this can't work I refused to listen to them and I realized later on they were only telling me their limit They're only the only limitation. That's their problem. Not mine. All right. Yeah, so if you feel you can do it Don't go don't stop and again as I said, it's okay to fail after trying but never fail to try What a good place to close. Thank you It is okay to fail after trying but never fail to try that has been bosco. So me the founder and director of sky digital Showing us the wi-fi vendor machines Uh, we come to a close of this on this particular conversation But some great entertainment coming up with val in just a little while Meanwhile, I'll talk to us at white to five for the hashtag is that's the vibe the question to daulisa learning What is that one thing? You're good to go talk to us. Uh, yeah, let's take a short break