 What's up, everyone? Welcome into the Sunday night recap presented by FanDuel. I'm your host, Simon, joined as always by my beautiful and dancing co-host, Josh, John Luke and Jay. What's up, guys? What up? What's happening? They need to put that on rock band or guitar hero or something because man, I would just jam out to that. I'm honestly, like, if that song had been on Spotify, FanDuel needs to put that out there without a doubt would have been in my, like, top plate songs of the year because that line just like, I don't know, it gets my energy going so much. We say it every week. What's up, Kev? Welcome in. Bert up. Glad to have you here. And he said, save me. That is quite ominous. Oh, my. Are you okay, Kev? Somebody check on Kev. Save me. God. Oh, man, that is, uh, we're just going to assume that it is football related. Kev, and Josh will come check on you after the show is over. I'm sure everything's fine. Maybe he needs to save me from Josh. Maybe he needs to save me from Josh. This is an hour and a half window to escape from Josh's occupied. We have had an exciting day of football, including the Lions getting their first win of the season. They did it. Congrats, Dan Campbell. I was waiting for the tears to start to start a flow. That was awesome. It's like they won the Super Bowl. We see Jerry Goff just run over to Dan Campbell and give him a big bear hug. And you know what? Good for them for celebrating like they won the Super Bowl. You know what I mean? Like not every team's a Super Bowl contender. That was their Super Bowl. They won a game about the first 0 and 17 team in the NFL. Um, it was, it was awesome to watch. Well, they already had a tie. They weren't going to be 0 and 17. You're right. They weren't going to be 0 and 17. They actually, they have been 0 and 17, but they've been 0 and 16. Yeah, this is the first time ever that there's been 17 games in a season. But I was just saying this year could have been record breaking because there's more games in here. Also, Maria and you saying, Kev, Josh, you better treat Kev right. Better, shut up. Burn him. Burn him. Oh, you said. Guys, we're going to go ahead and start talking. Oh, that's the wrong game. I'm not bringing that up. We're talking about Sunday night football to start things out. We have a matchup coming up between the Denver Broncos and the Kansas City Chiefs after these 4 p.m. games wrap up. Um, Josh, I know you had a couple of player props from this game that you are a big fan of going into tonight. Yeah. So first of all, this game is an eight and a half point spread. The Kansas City Chiefs, they are at home. They're eight and a half point favorites, according to the fan dual sports book right now. It's a 46 and a half point total over under. For me personally, guys, it's a, it's a division rival. It's late in the season. I think it's going to be a little bit more of a gritty game. I like the Broncos with eight and a half points personally. Um, and then I also like the over. I think there's going to be some scoring, even though it's a interdivisional game. But I like the Broncos plus eight and a half and I like over 46 and a half points. Man, that's a, that's a tough line for me at eight and a half because I feel like this is the time of year we're going to start see the Chiefs clicking a little bit more offensively. They're going to get things going. Um, but everything you said, it's an interdivisional game late in the season. All these narratives kind of competing with each other. I'll take the Chiefs minus eight and a half. I think in this one, but that's one of the, I would probably not touch it if it were me, but if I have to pick a side, that's the side I'm on. Yeah, I'm not comfortable enough to, uh, to put any money down on it, but I'm with you, Simon. I got a feeling that this is a game that Kansas City gets it going. I think they're going to win by at least 10 points. So I would take Kansas City. Fair enough, fair enough. Um, but in terms of player profits, I really like Travis Kelsey and any time touchdown score. I feel pretty confident about this and this is, this is a people's pick. I'm doing it for the people and, but I really, I feel confident about Chavate Williams. He's alone in this backfield. Finally, I think he's going to have a great game. I'm taking the over on his rushing yards, 70 and a half rushing yards. I know it's a decent amount of rushing yards, but I think he can do it against the Chiefs defense. If he doesn't rush for 250 yards and get six touchdowns tonight, fantasy football, Twitter is going to explode. Yes. I love it. I love it. Yep. What's up. See Rob. Welcome in. Hi. Hey, Colin. What's up, Colin? Glad to have you in here. And Josh, I think I'm with you on the Javante Williams line. He's surpassed that amount with Melvin Gordon in the backfield, I believe. So he should be getting the full workload tonight. Hopefully Melvin Gordon comes back healthy and soon, but while he's out, I think Javante Williams is going to have himself a great game. I'm also a little bit nervous about the Clyde Edwards, a layer 60 and a half point, a 60 and a half rushing yard total. If I had to lean one side, I'd go the under there. I could still see him have a good game, maybe even in the receiving it or with a touchdown. Yeah. Joe, would you take the over under on that line? Sixty and a half for CEH. I would probably, oh my God, I would probably take the over. Oh, we're on different sides. Gentlemen's bet. Gentlemen's bet. Let's go. Hey. We got one on the table that's wrapping up soon. I haven't checked on the status of it in a while, but we will see Stafford to add a very average game. So we will see what happens with average fantasy. Stafford probably won that one. Stafford probably won that one. I'm thinking. Guys, before we get into our recap of the games today, I wanted to go around and predict the winners for tonight's game. Like I said earlier, I'm taking the chiefs and more than eight and a half. So I guess that would mean I'll take the chiefs by nine. Fair enough. I'll take the chiefs by four. The chiefs by 10. I'll take the chiefs by. I'll take the chiefs by four, too. I'm with you, Josh. Hey, let's go. I heard the same page. Yeah, you know what's going to happen. Well, guys, the problem is all of us said chiefs. I feel like we've just guaranteed a Broncos win. That's it. No, no, no, the chiefs got this. They got this. They got this. Guys, we are going to jump into our first game of the day. And like we talked about a little bit earlier, the Detroit Lions got their first win of a last second as Tom expired touchdown to beat the Minnesota. It was. They should make a Disney movie about this game. It was a beautiful game. And honestly, the Minnesota Vikings came into this game as seven and a half point favorites. And obviously they did not cover. Did they guys? The Vikings losses game 27 to 29. And this is one of the best games of the week by far. It's been a while since the last minute. It looked like the Lions blew it at the end when the, the Minnesota Vikings drive down the field, scored a touchdown. They couldn't get the two point conversion, but then the Lions came back with barely any time left. It was such a great ending. And I'm really happy to see the Lions actually get that W finally from a fantasy perspective. On the Viking side of the ball, it was kind of what you expected outside of Adam Thieland getting injured. He did have a sprain ankle this game, but because Adam Thieland got injured, and this offense got some of those points and that guy is Justin Jefferson. Oh my God. He killed it with 11 catches on 14 targets for 182 receiving guards and a touchdown. Her cousins had a pretty good game himself when it comes down to it. But I think this offense without Adam Thieland, if he's out for a significant amount of time, let's say this is a high ankle sprain, there's going to be another fantasy threat in this offense. KJ Osborn had seven targets, he catches 47 yards and a touchdown himself. And Conklin had a really good game. So I think both KJ Osborn and Conklin are going to be beneficiaries if Adam Thieland is out for a while. What do you guys think, Simon? Do you think that let's just say Adam Thieland is out for the rest of the season? I know he's probably not. He has a sprain ankle. It's not that bad. But let's say he was, would you be interested in picking up both KJ Osborn and Conklin? I'm a bit more interested in KJ Osborn just because we saw flashes of it even with Thieland and Jefferson on the table. Like he's shown flashes of that talent. And I think if Thieland misses significant time, there are different kinds of players, but he's going to absorb some of those targets. KJ Osborn is the guy that I'm interested in there. Yeah. I mean, Conklin got nine targets himself. Yeah. So that's tough as a tight end, only 56 yards, seven catches. That's pretty solid as a tight end JL. What do you think here? Yeah, absolutely. Kylin has been, or I'm sorry, Tyler Conklin. I somehow combined his two names. Kylin. Maybe it's a unique name that we run with. I like it. Yeah. 56% of the targets this week, which is great. He's been floated around as a guy that you can throw and stream each week on it, especially in the good matchup. And this was another, with Adam Thieland being out, it's another opportunity that adds a little bit to Tyler Conklin, making him probably a decent tight end athlete here in the season. But J, you have any interest in Tyler Conklin going for it? Yeah. I pretty much agree with everything that these guys have said. You know, I don't really move up Conklin that much, but he goes from the back end of that. You're hoping for a touchdown to. The glob. The glob tight ends. He goes from the bottom of the glob to the top. Yeah. I'm right there with you guys. And Alexander Madison more or less did what we expected. 22 carries, 90 yards, one touchdown, three catches. He is a fantasy start as long as Dalvin Cook is out. Right guys? Oh, absolutely. Without a doubt. He's got to be in your lineup. Now, when the Detroit Lions side of the ball, it was a little bit more surprising. I guess you could say Jared golf had a pretty solid game, throwing three touchdowns, one interception. He did have a fumble. I guess if anything was a little disappointing, it was the running game. Jamal Williams had 17 carries, 71 yards, which is encouraging. But at the same time, you would expect it a little bit more. But if Deandre Swiss out, we're still, I still feel pretty good about putting Jamal Williams in my line. Right guys? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, Simon. Jay, you feel pretty good about putting Jamal Williams in your line. Yeah. There's a lot of people that were talking like Williams was a locked and loaded RB one, like the cases with Madison. And I don't think that's the case. I think, you know, if he is, he's getting, you know, we got 17 carries. You love that volume. So I think he's a surprise. I'm going to say this rock solid RB two the rest of the way as long as Grace Swift isn't in the lineup. You've evolved from avoiding it to embracing it. I wonder what the next step is. And Simon, you were about to say something there. Do you more or less agree with what Jay said? It's 17 carries. He got the lion's share of the carries. I did it again. I thought I was the dad here. What's going on? He's gotten into us today. So guys, TJ Hawkinson had a pretty solid bounce back game, I would say. Got a touchdown. So I feel comfortable putting in my lineup, but that's not what I want to talk about here. Lions wide receivers, um, especially I'm on Ross ain't Brown. Any interest in him going forward? I'll tell you real fast. I'm hands off with all the lines. Receivers still a jail. Do you agree? Yeah. Minnesota Vikings secondary is not the best. The pretty solid matchup. I'm in Ross ain't Brown the last, last three games. He got six targets, four targets, four targets. And then this game, he had 12 targets. It's huge jump. I don't expect this going forward this type of opportunity. But he's, he's, he's a promising young wide receiver. I expect more out of him next season for sure. Great dynasty wide receiver. But again, is TJ Hawkinson back to him real fast? Is he back into that group of tight ends, you know, with Kyle Pitts with Dawson Knox? Is he, is he kind of in that second tier tight ends? To answer your first question, I think yes, he is in that tier with Kyle Pitts, but it's not the tier they started in. It's a tier lower. It's with the guys like Dawson Knox, like you mentioned, they are, they are knocked down. It's here from Mark Andrews, George Kittle, Darren Waller, when he's healthy. Mark Andrews, George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, they obviously are separating themselves at this point. Yeah. He's in the next glob, but he's near the top. Absolutely. But all in all, it was a great game for the Lions. They pulled out the victory. They covered the spread. And it was an exciting game to watch. I did want to say if there, if there is a receiver that I had to start on the Lions, I know I'm in raw had the big game here today. But I feel like the safest receiver for just a couple of points on this offense is Josh Reynolds. Like, so if you're going for upside, you could throw almond raw and if you're forced to, but if you need safety, it seems like Jared Goff trusts him on a lot of these like intermediate throws. Josh Reynolds is safe for a couple of targets, a couple of catches, maybe 50 yards in this offense. It seems like. I have something to say about that real fast. Was here. Yes, I do agree. He, I think he is the safest wide receiver in the Lions. We're talking about Lions wide receivers, however, and not safe. You're right. Yeah. So at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. What's, you know, if it's going to be back and forth like this, I'm hands off. It's like, it's the pair of scissors that you're least likely to hurt yourself running with. Like it's not safe, but like you still, or maybe you would hurt yourself. Guys, we're going to move on to our next game, the New York Giants versus the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins continuing their win streak, beating the Giants 20. To nine. The Mike Glennon led Giants. So is it really that much of a victory? Let's be honest here, but they were going in. There were six and a half point favorites. Took care of that. No problem. 20 to nine to add a solid game. Nothing crazy. Miles Gaskin was disappointing though, because the Giants have given up a lot of fantasy points to opposing running backs. He only had 44 yards, two catches. So expecting just a little bit more from him. Jay Lovato continued to do what he's, he's done. Pretty much the entire year, nine catches, 90 yards, 11 targets. He has emerged as the wide receiver one on this team. There's no doubt that was with Devontae Parker coming back. He caught all five of his targets for 62 yards. Is Devontae Parker worth a pickup, Josh? Yeah, he's absolutely worth a pickup. He got five catches for 62 yards. Just like you said today, I think he's just a talented wide receiver. If you look at every game that he's been healthy so far this season, he's had at least seven targets outside of today's game. But you know, I mean, he's getting the yards. He has a high yards per catch. He's getting the valuable touches for fantasy. I think Devontae Parker should be rostered in pretty much every week. Jay Lovato. Yeah, I completely agree. He seems like the solid second option on this team. And then this team has been humming. Not a lot of people expected it, but it's been humming just like Simon is making that sound for. So absolutely. And I completely agree with everything Josh said. Devontae Parker, he's a talented wide receiver. Now, one thing that does take away from this is that they're on a buy next week. So if you need a wide receiver right now, maybe Devontae Parker isn't your guy, but I still think he should be picked up and rostered. Yeah. Simon, do you have anything to add there? No, these guys nailed it with that one. And Micah Sicki continued to impress. He had 11 targets. He had a really solid game as well. Seven catches, 46 yards. Is he somebody who is in every week start from here on out? And Simon, we'll start with you. Yeah. I think he asked me, unless you've got one of the aforementioned names, the Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews, George Kittle. Micah Sicki deserves to be in the conversation for that next guy, the next tight end that you're looking at starting with how he's performed so far this year. Unless we're talking about a healthy Gronk, he's up there as well. Gronk is in the elite tier. Gronk is up there. We might be talking about that later. I don't know. We will. Yeah. We'll be talking about him a little later. But yeah, Sicki's in every week start. There's only three or four guys. I think that you really should be starting ahead of him. I'm with you. On the giant side of the ball, honestly, there's really not a whole lot to talk about. Glennon looked like Mike Glennon. He threw a lot of really terrible. I mean, the passes he was throwing looked like laying ducks up there. They would just sit there forever. They were talking about making Kelly Gallade a focal point, trying to force the ball to him, throwing it to him in double coverage. It was absolutely awful. The only player on the team that did anything was Barclay. He did rush for five yards per carry, but he only had 11 carries. He got six catches and 19 yards. He did have nine targets. Jail, we'll start with you. If Daniel Jones is out for an extended period of time, which it's looking like that could be the case. Is there anybody on this team outside of Saquon Barclay that you're willing to start in fantasy? I'm willing to start, yes. I'm willing to start absolutely. I think Kenny Gallade, I'm willing to start. Evan Ingram, I'm willing to start if I need to. Have to start, no. Want to start, no. Whoops. Yeah. He got so embarrassed. He got so embarrassed by saying that you could start Evan Ingram. He just... He went to the outside down. He's off the stream. I don't blame him, honestly. That's even happens to me. I think you should start Evan Ingram. What happened? I'm not saying. I'm not messing around with the team. Don't say the name. Don't say the name, Josh. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm back. But is there anyone in this... Are you saying is there anyone in this giant's office? Outside of Saquon Barclay. Outside of Saquon Barclay. No. Not until Sterling Shepard or Cadarius Tony get back. I think both of those guys, they're so electric. If one of them was on the field without the other, I think it's an easy start. You're starting Cadarius Tony and Sterling Shepard. Not easy start. In your flex, you know, they're good. So weird. It was like I said, Evan Ingram. And then all of a sudden the ghost of Evan Ingram. Out of my... I don't know if you actually heard us talking, but that's exactly what... It's terrifying. Dear God. It's actually... I don't even know if you heard us talking. It happened to Simon and it happened to Josh, too. He's making his rounds. That's why I won't say the name. I'm not starting anybody outside of Barclay, honestly. Even Cadarius Tony with Mike Glennon under center. And Glennon had a concussion. So he might not even be able to start next week. So they just picked up somebody who wasn't... Jake Fromm. They just signed. So it could be Jake Fromm under center. So there's no way anybody outside of Barclay. And you know what? Barclay has been on this borderline RB1 talk. He's no more than running back to for the rest of the season. Honestly. Absolutely. The way this offense is looked. He, you know, he had one really nice, classic, sake one Barclay run, but like you're lucky if you see one of those a game. This offense is just abysmal. You just, you can't trust him. You got to love his nine targets though. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing that saved his day. You know, if he's getting, you know, and that's what you would expect, you know, with the quarterback play, just dump the ball off to him a lot. So he should still be able to have that running back to value because of the targets and because of the receptions. Yeah. Yeah. Fully agree with you guys on that one. It's sad seeing how far down the ranking, sake one has fallen since the beginning of the season. Hopefully we get some vintage sake one next year. But I don't think it's coming this year. Guys, we're going to move on to our next game. The next game we're going to be talking about is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers versus the Atlanta Falcons. The Falcons tried to make it interesting there for a little bit. You know, they kept it kind of close throughout a lot of the game, but the Buccaneers came out on top 30 to 17 in this one. First thing I want to talk about, we brought it up a second ago. I'm going to bring it up now. When Rob Gronkowski is healthy, he's in that elite tier of tight end for me. He is in that must start. There is nobody besides Travis Kelsey, George Kittle, Marke Andrews that I'm starting over a healthy Rob Gronkowski. He's a touchdown machine. Tom Brady looks straight to him in the red zone. That's what he does. And he's a monster out on that field. I mean, just look at his stat line from today. Four exceptions, 58 yards in two touchdowns. There's not much else you can ask for from a tight end. And Gronk has shown us this time and time again throughout the season. JL, I know Josh agrees with me. He said it over there. JL, do you think Gronk belongs in that elite tier of tight end or he's healthy up there with Marke Andrews, George Kittle, Travis Kelsey? Absolutely. If he's healthy, then him and Tom have that relationship. He's absolutely in that top tier. I would put him probably closer to the bottom of the top tier, but for the rest of the season, I might take Gronk over Waller. Oh, you have to at this point. You have to. With the injury concerns Waller has. Yeah. Yeah. He's been on the field. He hasn't really produced that besides out that first game. He really hasn't done a whole lot. Yeah. I think I still take Kittle over, over Gronk, but that's probably the Linus for me. That's what I was going to ask. What about Mark Andrews? Well, Jay asked what I was going to ask. What about Marke Andrews? Sorry, Simon. It's tough. That is tough. I think I would think I would still take Mark Andrews. Yeah. It's very close, but for me, Mark Andrews is higher on the food chain and the passing game in Baltimore than Gronk is. You know, they still Antonio Brown, even though he's out a couple of games is expected to come back for the end of the season. So. Gronk is higher on the touchdown food chain though. Like Andrews is higher on the target food chain. Gronk, when it comes to the touchdown food chain in Tampa Bay, he might be number one. Like as far as a great zone targets. Well, it's just that they're going to get so many more touchdowns to Tampa Bay is going to get. That's a good point. That's a very good point. That's just the facts of the matter here. You know, they're super close though. They're super close. Simon, I like that you said it earlier. He said if Gronk, Gronk play Gronk good, like that, that was, that's how you say it. You plug him in no matter what. If he's healthy, he's in your lineup. Do not make the mistake of putting them on your bench. Even if you have a Chelsea, Gronk probably belongs in your flex. That's the reason Mark Andrews is ahead of Gronk because he's shown that he stays on the field more than Gronk has. So if I had to choose one for the rest of the season, it's Mark Andrews. Guys, there was another receiving option though. We say Gronk good, but you know who else was really good in this game? Chris Godwin can catch the damn ball. That guy is an electric wide receiver. I had him criminally underrated. I believe probably because of my love for Mike Evans, but Chris Godwin is, is unreal. Going into next season. So we're approaching the end of this season and I'm curious how these receivers are going to stack up next year. JL, who will you be drafting first? Is it Chris Godwin or is it Mike Evans going into the next football season? Assuming Tom Brady's back. It's Godwin. Yeah. Is it Godwin for all of you guys? Isn't Godwin real fast? Godwin's on the franchise tag. Am I wrong? I think you're right. I'm thinking like this is Godwin's like, I think he did. I think maybe, I don't know. I can't remember exactly. No, no, no. But what was the question Simon? Who will you be drafting first? Chris Godwin or Mike Evans? And just so you guys know, it's not in this game. But prior to this game, their total points on the season in a PPR league is 180.8 for Chris Godwin and 180.5 for Mike Evans. They're separate. They've gotten there very differently. It's going to go up after this week, but you are correct. He's a free agent after this season. Okay. So let's just say for the question, let's just say, they're both on Tampa Bay. It's Chris Godwin. I'm taking, I'm taking whoever false. I would take Chris Godwin first, but the way I play, I would go for the value because it's too hard to tell with the guys. I think Chris Godwin is the more valuable wide receiver, but draft capital matters. Yeah. I'm with you guys. I think this will be the first year where I ranked Chris Godwin ahead of Mike Evans. He's shown enough this year and he's steady in that offense. Evans still had a good game though. I mean seven catches, 99 yard, you know, you can't complain with that whatsoever. It wasn't a typical Mike Evans. Let's disappear fall off the face of the earth with three catches for 30 yards type of game. Yeah. You guys had a touchdown and they both have fantastic games. I think you hit the nail on the head earlier, Josh. There's a lot more passing offense to go around in this offense and we were joking. They can't support four receivers with Antonio Brownback, but hell they can support three with Chris Godwin, Mike Evans and Rob Gronkowski all having great fantasy days on the Atlanta side of the ball. Our MVP for the day was not who we expected. It was Russell Gage who came away with a big game. Russell Gage in this game had 12 targets, 11 receptions for 130 yards. No touchdowns, but he ends with 16.5 fan dual fantasy points. The 12 targets is what really stands out to me though. And this Atlanta offense looked better than it has in the previous four or five weeks. Not great, but better. They were moving a little bit. Josh, do you have interest in Russell Gage rest of season? So we talked about Devontae Parker earlier. Who would you rather roster? Devontae Parker or Russell Gage rest of season? That's a great question. That is a tricky one. That's a really tricky one. Look at Russell Gage has been really good coming off the buy since Calvin Ridley has been out there. Russell Gage has been healthy. Russell Gage has been pretty darn consistent outside two games where he completely disappeared, which is a little scary. That's the biggest thing that scares everyone off of Russell Gage. Two games he completely disappeared outside of that. He's been fantastic. He's been a great PPR wide receiver. Who would I rather have? I think it depends on if you need a wide receiver going into next week because again, Russell Gage is going to be flying next week and Devontae Parker will not be. I think Devontae Parker is a little bit safer and probably has a little bit more upside when it comes down to it's all lean Devontae Parker. Jail, what about you? You agreed that that was a tough question. Would you lean Russell Gage or would you lean Devontae Parker? I'm going to go with Gage. Last three weeks, we had eight targets for Gage. Seven targets for Gage and 12 targets for Gage. That's pretty decent. Devontae Parker, we still only have a single game with him being back now. Typically what we've seen in the season when he has been playing, he's been around that line between seven and 10 targets per game. This game, he only had five targets, which is a little bit lower. I think I would lean Gage. I think he's going to probably have more opportunity, but it's close. It's very close. Jay, break the tie. Gage or Devontae Parker? I'm going to go Gage too. And for the exact reason that Jail said over the past three games, he's averaging nine targets per game. No less than five catches. He does have a touchdown. So I don't trust either of these guys, but give me the guy who's consistently getting targets. Yeah. The other thing I wanted to bring up about this game was the running back. So Mike Davis did have the better fantasy day compared to Cordero Patterson. But don't worry. Just don't just look at the final score. Look at the box. Look at the carries. Look at how it broke down. Cordero Patterson is still the lead back here. Nothing switched. There wasn't a random changing of the guard midseason for these guys. Mike Davis, what had four carries, I believe it was for 32 yards. But Patterson had 13 carries for 78 yards. Four targets for Mike Davis. Five targets for Patterson. The touchdown went Mike Davis's way this week though. That's going to happen. And that was the difference maker. Patterson is still the lead back here in my mind though. Josh, do you have any concerns for Patterson rest of season? No, Patterson looked really good today. He looked good. He's just fine. Don't you worry about his lackluster fantasy performance today? He looked good on the field and he's still the guy that the Falcons need him. The Falcons still need him. And who would have thought at the beginning of the season, we would be saying an 11.1 fantasy point game from Cordero Patterson was a lackluster game from him. Right. You know what I mean? Like if you would have told me he scored 11 in a game preseason, I would have been like, what a week. Oh, wow. Good job, Cordero. Yeah. Yeah. It's the way the narrative shifts throughout the season. Look at you. Last thing I wanted to bring up here, we already talked about it though. Kyle Pitts yet again showing that we can't consider him in that top tier of tight end. He's just not there anymore. It's the way this way an offense is moving without Calvin Ridley. It's just Kyle Pitts can't be the focal point of the receiving game and Russell Gage isn't doing enough to take the attention off of him. In fact, Kyle Pitts is probably a reason Russell Gage is able to get targeted so much. Yeah. He's focusing on Kyle Pitts in that offense. Unless you guys have anything else to add there, we are going to move on to our next game for the day. The Los Angeles Chargers versus the Cincinnati Bengals. The Chargers beaten up on the Bengals with a final score of 41 to 22. Yeah. The Bengals were two and a half point favorites going into this game. The Chargers absolutely. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The Ravens just tied it up. They're doing the Ravens thing again. They're doing the Ravens thing? I'm sorry. I'm sorry for interrupting you. They just scored a touch down. Josh, we were saying right before the show, the Ravens have got to be the most exciting. The Steelers were winning 20 to 13. There's 20 seconds left. The Ravens just scored a touch down. The tie down. Oh my. Josh, your points on are off right now. They're going, but not for long. Do you know who scored the touch down JL? Did you see it? No, I did not. Who was it? It's Sammy Watkins. Sammy Watkins, baby. Let's go. Free beer with Sammy Watkins. Free beer with Sammy Watkins. Go ahead, JL. I'm sorry to interrupt it. No, that's okay. It was worthy. It was a worthy interruption. But yes, the Bengals were favorite at going into this game. They absolutely did not win. Chargers cover the spread and then some, the over under was set at 49 and a half. Chargers alone almost scored that many points. This game was wild. There was a ton of turnovers. Ridiculous amount of turnovers. Starting the Chargers side of this ball. Justin Herbert. He was the QB3 going into this week. He's currently QB3 on the week. He had a fantastic game. I lost my notes. Oh, here we go. 26 completions on 35 attempts. 317 yards. Three touchdowns. One interception and a carry for six yards, as well as a two point conversion. Justin Herbert play fantastic. And so let me ask you guys this. Justin Herbert next going into next season. Where should Justin Herbert be drafted as QB what? We'll start with you, Simon. Why'd you have to start with me? Let me pull up a list of guys. I'm still drafting Lamar ahead of them. I'm still drafting Patrick Mahomes ahead of them, but I think that's when the conversation starts. I think as early as three and at the latest, probably six, you know, Kyler Murray ahead of them as well. So I'll say Justin Herbert at four. Josh Allen too. You got to. Yeah, I'd say Josh Allen. Right. I think the conversation like starts with those two guys. Know what I mean? I wouldn't fault someone for taking Herbert over Allen, but I think Lamar Mahomes Murray are ahead of him. You guys put Allen ahead of him for sure. But I think in that four or five, six ranges where you start talking about Justin Herbert. Yeah, I'm not saying for sure either. I think yeah, I think he's part of this tier now. He's part of this tier. Part of this top tier. I like it. Lamar Jack and Patrick Mahomes. Josh Allen Kyler Murray. So much crap for how much I dove in on Justin Herbert after his one game last year. Whenever Tyra Taylor got injured, but it is working out. He is looking really good. Are you okay over there? I just saw what happened with the Ravens game. I, yeah, I, you know, don't worry about it. Actually, what I don't actually know what happened. Oh, yeah. A version attempt we went for two. We didn't get it. Yes. Ah, boomerang. All right, moving on. Austin Eckler didn't have the best game. Didn't have a typical Austin Eckler game. Two costly fumbles, but he did have 14 carries, 59 yards in touchdown and five receptions for 45 yards. It's just, it's not the best week for Austin Eckler. It's fine. He's still got you 15.4 points in any sort of PPR format. Ken Allen, last I checked, he's wide receiver six on the week. He had five receptions on eight targets for 34 yards and two touchdowns, excellent touchdowns. I thought he had a passing touchdown too. I've not seen that. It was a two point conversion. It was a two point conversion. Okay. Two Justin Herbert. That makes sense. Two Herbert, two point conversion. It was sick. It was sick. Yeah, but Ken Allen, continuing to produce for you as always, continuing to be a value of fantasy. Mike Williams. We saw a little bit of a comeback week here. Mike Williams, last I checked, he was wide receiver 17 on the week. Five receptions on seven targets for 110 yards. Jay, can we see a resurgence of Mike Williams late in the season here? Resurgence. Yes. I don't think he's ever going to get back to that, you know, top five, top 10 status that hopefully most people realize that that was unsustainable. But I do think if, you know, he continues to produce like this, you could plug him in as your wide receiver too. I'm going to feel pretty comfortable, especially as good as Justin Herbert throwing the ball right now. So yeah, I do, I believe it. I think there, you know, he did have an injury that they claims he wasn't nagging on, but obviously it was, he wasn't producing. It's a knee injury, I believe. Yeah, I believe you're right. I do. I think that this is going to be, you know, I still think Ken Allen is the alpha in this offense, you know, even though five catches, but he got those two touchdowns. But I think Mike Williams could have a nice stretcher on. Josh, what do you think? Could we see a late season resurgence from Mike Williams? Yeah, I mean, we just talked about and hyped up Justin Herbert. We love Justin Herbert, right? So he's with the right quarterback to be able to have a resurgence. I think he announced the number one in this offense still. He's the safety blanket for Justin Herbert. But Mike Williams, it maybe is a little bit more of a big play threat. So I still feel good about having him in my fantasy lineup every week. Yeah. Yeah. Simon, how about you? Could we see a late season resurgence? I mean, I think this offense looked better at the beginning of the season when Mike Williams was heavily involved. Now they've got Ken Allen involved if they are realizing that they can get the ball moving. It opens up the field a little bit more with Mike Williams, more involved down the stretch as we approach the playoffs. I think they're going to do it. I expect a resurgence from Mike Williams these last couple of weeks of the season. I'm not calling for number two overall receiver like we saw at the beginning of the year, but a top 15 guy over the last couple of weeks of the season is well within the realm of outcomes, especially with how good this charges offense looks when they're using Mike. And look at these matchups. He's playing the New York Giants, Kansas City Chiefs, Houston Texans. Juicy. You've seen matchups. Beautiful. Yeah. So on the bangle side of this ball, Burrow did dislocate his pinky, I believe, in this game. He played through it, but not the best game from Burrow. 24 completions on 40 attempts, 300 yards in the touchdown, and two interceptions. He did have a rushing touchdown, which certainly helped, but he also had a fumble. So a little bit of back and forth for Joe Burrow. Definitely contributed to this, the wild number of turnovers here. And we'll have to keep an eye on the injury going forward. Joe Mixon followed up that a monstrous week last week, with sort of a not very impressive week this week. 19 carries for 54 yards and a touchdown, almost no receiving work and a fumble, a really bad fumble. Simon, are you worried at all for Joe Mixon going forward? Is this just a down week? We still saw 19 carries. So the volume's still there. How are you feeling about Joe Mixon? You said it. 19 carries, the volume's still there. And he's still, like, this game doesn't make me think he's not one of the best running backs in the NFL from a talent perspective. We've seen it all season. He's still got 19 carries, even on a down week for him. And even the announcers were saying it throughout the game. They kept saying things like at the beginning, like, oh, like he would have a bad run. They'd be like, this is the kind of running back that wears you down though over the course of a game. Like, they would make excuses for the bad runs. But that's because we've come to expect these blow-up games from Joe Mixon. And there's more of them coming. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think there's time to take. What is interesting is that we saw second week in a row where T. Higgins is the lead receiver on this team, nine completions on 14 targets, 138 yards and a touchdown. Holy cow. Holy cow. Where is T. Higgins? Has your thought, has your, your evaluation of T. Higgins, your analysis of T. Higgins changed at all the rest of season after the last two weeks? Is he trending upwards? Is he still, are we still just dealing with a sort of carousel type situation? What do you think, Jay? Yeah, I was saying it last week and it proved to be the same this week. I think it's a lot closer of a 1A, 1B situation that people wanted to admit at the beginning of the year when Chase was getting all those long touchdowns. But that was unsustainable. I think that they are both high-end wide receiver twos and whoever's the one that winds up with the touchdowns is going to jump into a wide receiver one status for the week. Chase could have had a touchdown, but he had an awful, awful drop that led to one of those turnovers. So, yeah, I think that they're both high-end wide receiver twos. I think what you saw with, what you're seeing in this game, what we've seen the past couple of weeks is probably what we're going to see from them going forward. I think it's a very real scenario where T. Higgins is the target leader, the reception leader, and Jamar Chase is the one with the most fantasy points at the end of the season. Like, I think that's something that we might see going forward, like going into next year. It reminds me a bit, there are different kinds of players but Chris Godwin and Mike Evans that we were talking about. We're going to get more big blow-up games from Jamar Chase like we do from Mike Evans, but we're going to get probably some more consistent targets for T in this Bengals offense. I'm with Jay. I want both of these guys on all of my dynasty teams and the rest of season they're both good starts. And if Chase catches that long touchdown, the conversation has turned into the Cincinnati have two wide receiver ones. What a crazy, what a crazy interception that was. That was insane. That was wild. Josh, how do you feel about Jamar Chase and T. Higgins going forward? Yeah, they're pretty close. The T. Higgins is definitely close to the gap between the two. I love what I've seen out T. Higgins the last couple weeks and that touchdown catch was sick. Double coverage, I believe. Yeah, it was sick. Going forward, got to rank them pretty neck and neck. Neck and neck, high on one receiver two is like Jay said. Yeah, excellent. I'm with you. It's all I got on this game. We're going to move on to our next game, the Indianapolis Colts versus the Houston Texans. A real close from here. It's so exciting. It's so exciting. The Colts were able to pull it out by slim margin of 31 points. Did Texas couple the spread? Yeah, according to the family sports book, this was a 10 point spread. And unfortunately, it was not a 32 point spread like it should have been. 10 point per quarter spread is how it was. 10 point per quarter. And somehow they couldn't get over the 45 and a half point total with the Colts. The only ones with four points. But the Colts were close. They tried. They really tried to do it all by themselves. They absolutely did. But the Colts ended up getting the victory here. And I'm going to start with the Colts side of the ball because there's really not much to talk about on the Texan side of the ball. At Carson Wentz, he had a kind of disappointing fantasy game, but it's really, you know, it was in the back. The Texans couldn't do anything. If the other offense isn't doing anything, then obviously the Colts offense easily drove down the field with Jonathan Taylor. Didn't have to score a lot of points with Carson Wentz. He only had one touchdown. 13.12 fantasy points. Jonathan Taylor had a classic game. 32 carries. 143 yards, two touchdowns. He killed it. And then Michael Pittman had a great game as well. You know, six catches, 77 yards. Guys, I know Michael Pittman has a tough schedule coming up, but we've got to consider him an every week start at the moment, right? Jay, you've got to put Michael Pittman in your lineup every week still, right? Yeah, it depends on the format where you slot him in though. If it's three wide receivers, I think he's more of a wide receiver three than a wide receiver two. Really? And I think he's locked in as a flex play. The inconsistency we've seen from him, you know, this is Jonathan Taylor's team. So Wentz hasn't had to win the games with his arm. So that's really affected his production these past couple of weeks. You know, he did look good this week, but I can't trust him as more than a wide receiver three or a flex play. Now I do think he is somebody you should start every week, but more along the lines of a flex. I'm making you play a game then. Going forward for the rest of the season, whether of him or Tyler Lockett. Yeah, I'd go Pittman. All right. That's what I thought. Him or Brandon IU coming off a poor game. I still like IU better. Okay, fair enough. I'm going to go Pittman there myself. Him or Chase Claypool. Yeah, I guess Pittman. I'm going Pittman there because Big Ben's looks so terrible. Yeah, and Brian. I'm going Pittman over all those guys personally. Have you said Hunter Remfra? Did you say that one? Because I know Hunter Remfra. Go ahead of them. You guys love your Hunter Remfra. I'm asking Jay, not JL. I'm asking Jay on that one. Well, I liked Hunter Remfra before JL did. Obviously, we all did. We all did. Everybody did. My grandma did. Guys, there was a new player. There was a player I want. Never mind. I'll get to him later in another game. But all in all, I think you should start Michael Pittman every week. There's some discrepancy here. Right guys? And obviously we're putting Jonathan Taylor in there. Right. Yeah. Every week start. I just, I've more of a back end wide receiver, two wide receiver, three versus. Where do you guys land on this subject? JL and Simon, let's start with JL. You feel, you feeling, you more on my side. It's locked and loaded wide receiver, two or more of a wide receiver, three. All somewhere in between. I think he's a back end wide receiver to the inconsistency. I think it's been a bit overblown. It's a little bit based off recency. If you go and look at his, his performance across the season. It's really just, he's, he's been in a bad run. So I think he's a, he's a wide receiver too. He has the upside to deliver a wide receiver one week, which is exactly what I want out of those wide receiver twos, especially the back end wide receiver two, low end wide receiver threes. But he's, he's good. And he's really the only option on this team. So while Carson Wentz is going to be a little bit inconsistent and Pittman therefore is also going to be inconsistent. I'm not as worried. I'm more in line with, I'm more in line with J. I think just looking at the season as a whole is dangerous because the Colts truly did make an offensive switch to make the focal point of their offense, Jonathan Taylor. And I don't see that switching back because it's been very successful for them. That has lined up with Michael Pittman slide into these, these bad weeks. Now, am I projecting less than 10 fantasy points most weeks going forward? Like he has the past couple of weeks or around 10. No, I don't think that's going to keep on. But, um, but he's in that wide receiver three category for me. I think this is a run first team. This is a Jonathan Taylor first team as it should be. I'm an unfortunately Michael Pittman gets the brunt of that deal. Well, when it comes down to what he has to buy next week, so to start him next week, then he's got tough matches going on after that. Herms with the dagger. Yeah. We sign, we sign. Yeah. And I also have a personal one because the guy I'm playing in my home league had the Indianapolis Colts defense and he defeated me this week. Yeah. Yeah. On the Texan side of the ball. There's a lot I want to talk about over here. To raw Taylor, he got knocked out of the game. Davis Mills came in. Both of them played pretty poorly. Rex Burkhead was the leading rusher, but you didn't want him in your fantasy lineup. And the one guy we feel okay on the Texans offense, putting our line up was pretty disappointing himself Brandon cooks three catches, 38 yards, one carry for 16 yards. I think, I think we have to get, start getting a little bit worried about Brandon cooks going forward. He's fine. You can play him as in a flex play at best for me guys. What do you think here? Simon flex play. Brandon cooks. He's a flex play. You hope for the touchdown. He can do it. He's talented enough. He can take one to the house, but it is not guaranteed. Yeah. Brandon cooks just because he's the only show in town. Jail. Yep. I agree with Simon. Jay flex play. Flex play. If Davis Mills is under center, I don't even think he's a flex play. That's only if he'll get so hyper targeted though. I still, I think he'll still be worth even a flex play. And that's it. That's it. That's all we kind of talk about on the Texans. There's nothing else here. We're going to move on to our next game. Then the Philadelphia Eagles versus the New York Jets. The Eagles coming out on top 33 to eight years ago. The Eagles versus the New York Jets. The Eagles coming out on top 33 to 18 in this one. Before I hop in the game, I did want to say a real quick hello to my niece, Carly. She's tuned in every week and loves when we say hello to her. So just wanted to say hi, Carly. Thanks for tuning in. Hello. Hi, Carly. Welcome in. And before we jump into this game, guys, a couple of quick reminders. Number one, if you have not done so already, go ahead and hit the like button on this video and make sure to subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube. And you can go follow them on Twitch at FanDuel over there as well. You can find them on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter as well, all at FanDuel. They have a whole team of awesome content creators helping you win money and win your leagues. They're not all us, you know, they don't look like us, but they might have some great advice for you. So make sure you subscribe to them across all platforms. Also, guys, if you want to follow us individually, you like our takes, you like our faces, you can follow us on Twitter. Jay at GminJ. Josh at FYF. Josh Jail at FYF. John Luke and me at FYF Simon. So head on over there. You'll get an array of different kinds of content from the four different accounts, but it's far-reaching. You have all four different accounts. It will definitely be an eclectic group of content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be great. But jumping into this game, the Jets, Zach Wilson showed a little bit of flash. Two touchdowns, 226 passing yards and interception. It wasn't anything great, but it does give you a little bit of hope for Elijah Moore the rest of the season, you know, as bad as Wilson looked last week. Everybody was down on more, but he had a solid game. Six catches, 77 yards and a touchdown. So Josh, just like you play the game, it's time for us to play the game. And we're going to start with you. We'll start with Josh and go, I've got four players. We'll go down for each one. Josh, Elijah Moore or Odeckham, rest of the season? Elijah Moore. Jail. OBJ. Simon. OBJ. I'm going OBJ as well. You guys are losers. Moore or Chase Claypool, Josh? Elijah Moore. Jail. Nipple. What did you just sing? Nipple? That's what I heard. Um, okay, Claypool, um, man, I'll, I was going to say the quarterback situation, but then like what, what's really, I'll take Elijah, I'll take Elijah Moore. I'm going to go Elijah Moore there as well. Two more real quick, Jerry, Judy or Elijah Moore, Josh? Elijah Moore. I think I will go Elijah Moore on that one. Rest of season Elijah Moore, dynasty, Jerry, Judy. Just need to say that. And of course that's a question. I don't, I don't think it's of course anymore. I think there are people that'll take Elijah more of a Jerry, Judy and dynasty. Definitely not in a course in dynasty. I'm with you. I'm with you Simon. Yeah, I would go Elijah Moore as well. And then the last one coming off a disappointing game this week, Brandon, I you or Elijah Moore, rest of season, Josh? Elijah Moore. I said Elijah Moore for everyone. I didn't ask you that. So I would go, I would go Elijah Moore. I'll go IU. I've liked what IU has done in this offense and it's a, it's a much better offense than the Jets over there. It's very close, but for pretty much same reasons as Simon, I'm going to go IU. But you really, that's pretty much it for the Jets. The, just the back. You want to stay away from it's pretty ugly, especially until, until, I just had Michael Carter. Yeah, Michael Carter. I just, I just read the private chat over there. The evil side of the ball. Gardner Minshew started for Jalen Hertz. Look pretty good. 242 passing yards, two touchdowns, no turnovers, chipped in 11 yards on the ground. So the question everybody's going to be asking, is there a quarterback controversy? Can I ask my question please Simon? I think it's rude to even ask, but go ahead. You know what people are going to ask. Ask it. Ask it. Did Gardner Minshew overtake Jalen Hertz as a starter in Philadelphia? We are going to start with. Josh. I knew it. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. He didn't have to take the quarterback position in Philadelphia. But I need, I need thought I was going to say, I need thought I was going to say, but Gardner Minshew did look, he looked fantastic today. He looked great. He looked like he could run an offense. Now when Jalen Hertz is healthy, I am fully confident he will be the starting quarterback for the Eagles. However, if he has a bad game, if he has two bad games, if he doesn't look right, I think the coaching staff saw what Gardner Minshew did here and they could be like very easily just be like, hey, Minshew can do it. So this does make me a little nervous. Before we go on, this is the last minute start sit question before Jalen answers it. I want to make sure we get to this flex spot Sutton or Knox. I'm up by two and they have Kelsey. Oh, so you got to shoot for upside with this pick. So the question is, which one of these guys has more upside because Kelsey, that's a tough player to be going up against only up by two. Jay, where are you going here? Sutton or Knox? I initially thought Sutton, but since Judy's been back Sutton has done nothing. Absolutely nothing. So as much as I hate to say it, I'm going to go Knox. I just, I think he could get two touchdowns a lot easier than Courtwood Sutton could. And that's the type of game you're going to need to beat Travis Kelsey. That's exactly what I was going to say, Jay. If I had to bet which one of these players, if one of them is going to score two touchdowns, it would be on Dawson Knox. So I'm on the Knox side of this one. Josh, what do you think? Oh yeah, it's got to be Knox. It's got to be Knox for me. Jalen, are you on the Sutton side here? Are you agreeing with us on Knox? I'm going to go on the Sutton side upside. I totally see your guys' argument, but the Patriots are very good against Titan. They're very good against Titan. I'm worried about Knox this week. Sutton hasn't been playing well, but it is the Chiefs. And I'm hoping that this is a high scoring game and that Sutton gets involved and Sutton gets a touchdown or two. So I'll go Sutton. Man, that's a tough one though, Joey. Good luck. Fingers crossed. I'm cheering for you on that one. But that is, here's what I hope happens. I hope Kelsey puts up 40. You think you have no hope and then Knox puts up 50. Because I want to get given Kelsey as well. And I'm not facing Knox this week. So that would work out for everyone. Sorry about that. Jay, you were asking a very, very not rude question about Jalen Hurts, if I remember correctly. No questions are rude questions, but Jalen. Jalen Hurts, did he lose his job this week? No, it's the Jets. It's the Jets. I'm pretty sure an empty can of Coke could beat the Jets at this point. But it's still Jalen Hurts' job. So there's been three empty cans of Coke this year because, I don't know, because the Jets have three wins. That's true. That is true. The Titans, when they were at full strength too. So I can't explain that. I cannot explain that. I just feel like even if the Eagles inesplicably made the call to give the starting job to Gardner Menchie going forward, it would be for one game. And then they would be like, oh, oh, wait. Oh, that was Gardner Menchie. We missed Jalen Hurts. They plugged him back in. Like this was a one game. This was a great game from him. But I think Gardner Menchie was good at that. Coming in off a short week and he's got the moxie, right? He's in there and he's confident and he's making the throws. And just like with Ryan Fitzpatrick, sometimes it's not going to work out. This is Jalen Hurts' job. He has shown enough this year to hold on to it. No, I'm with you guys completely. I just wanted to ask the question. And I do think Josh said it perfectly though. I do think if Jalen Hurts comes back and plays poorly and plays poorly for multiple games, I would not be surprised to see them go back to Gardner Menchie. And the lateral in here saying, Menchie set the Eagles to Wumbo. Indeed he did. Wumbo. Straight to Wumbo. And then on Bray said, yeah, who else had WaveWire players that dropped 30 and 20? This was a good WaveWire week. Nice job on that one. Tony Michelle. That's phenomenal. Bray's Madison if you're able to get him. Yeah, let's not talk about Tony Michelle because I swapped him out last minute. Let's not break him up. Let's not. Another running back. Miles Sanders did have a good game. He looked, I don't understand why the Eagles don't just give him the ball every time because he looked phenomenal. 24 carries. He averaged five yards of carry. No touchdowns because Kenneth Gainwell stole his touchdown. He vultured a touchdown from him, but he still had a good game. He rushed, let's see where is it? He had 17.2 fantasy points in PPR League. So a really solid week for him. He did leave the game with a tweaked ankle ankle at the end of the game. So they are on by next week. I haven't heard any reports of anything. Hopefully it's nothing too serious. The game was pretty much out of hand when that happened anyways, but Dallas Goddard was a story on the Eagles side of the ball. Six catches, 105 yards and two touchdowns. Do you guys expect this to continue when Jalen Hertz comes back or do you think it's more of a product that Gardner Minshew was under center? Jalen? Nope, either one. Yeah. Josh. Well, when it comes down to it, he absolutely had the best game of the season by far Dallas Goddard. But Gardner Minshew is more of a pocket passer, a traditional NFL quarterback compared to Jalen Hertz. So yeah, Dallas Goddard is going to be a little bit better. It seems like Minshew also wants a safety blanket. That's typically a tight end. It's a big body you can easily go to where maybe Jalen Hertz is making some bigger throws down the field. That's why we didn't see Devonta Smith or Jalen Rager or Quest Walkins have a good game. So yeah, I do think that Minshew is better for Dallas Goddard. But Dallas Goddard hasn't been horrible. You know, he got two touchdowns this week. Six. Yeah, his targets has been around the same as when Hertz had been in. So I don't see that, you know, I just think he was able to do more with that. The two touchdowns absolutely inflated this fantasy score this week. He did get more yards. He had a season high in yardage in this game. 105 receiving yards. His first game over breaking 100 receiving yards. But I think either one is good for Goddard. Since Hertz left Goddard has been the target share lead guy in this team. And he's been a high target share compared to all tight ends of the league. So I'm not at all worried either with whoever his quarterback is. Yeah, the touchdowns will fall his way from time to time. Sometimes they won't. He's getting enough targets like Jale said that he's going to have games like this. It was inevitable. Gardner Minshew in there. Yeah, maybe that helped a little bit, but this is well within the range of outcomes with Jalen Hertz under center as well. Guys, before we move on to our next game, we had a question in here down by six full PPR facing Sutton and Agilore. I have fans. So they've got fans going up against Sutton and Agilore. Do I play CEH or Damian Harris? Thanks, Josh. You volunteered with your smile. Who are you? Who are you playing? I would be going with CEH. I don't. I could see both of these guys having disappointing games, but Damian Harris, I get that playing the rules. I believe one Monday night. Correct. So I'm a little bit more concerned about that defense compared to the Broncos defense. CEH has a little more upside for me. So and a little bit safer of a floor probably. Yep. Also, Joey, real quick, we did hit this one earlier. Three out of the four of us said Knox Jale said Sutton. We liked the touchdown upside for Knox was the big reasoning there. So that was our answer for that one. We're going to get back to this one. I agree with you, Josh, CEH for me as well. Jale, would either of you guys pick Damian Harris, or are you in agreement that it's CEH here? Agreement. Yeah. Agreement. Agreement. Agreement. We're going to move on to our next game. I don't know if there will be full agreement on this one, but this is Arizona Cardinals versus the Chicago Bears. The Cardinals put it out 33 to 22. And with how Andy Dalton plays, it should have been by a lot more than that. But I thought it was funny going through the stat line afterwards because at first you're reading it and you're like, oh, that's too bad. 26 for 41. So a little inaccurate, but 229 yards to touchdowns. Like pretty good for interceptions for Andy Dalton. So Andy Dalton is Andy Dalton. He's Andy Dalton. That's what I guess you can expect from him in these kinds of games. He did enough offensively for other pieces in his offense to have decent games, but he also did enough to make sure the Bears lost with the interceptions going on there. So my thinking is if Andy Dalton starts the rest of season, I'm honestly not super concerned for the receiving options here. I don't view it as a downgrade. It's at worst a lateral move from Justin Fields to these guys because Andy Dalton can get them to the ball. He just makes some weird decisions sometimes. Jay, do you view Andy Dalton as a downgrade or an upgrade fantasy-wise for these receivers? No, I think honestly a little bit of an upgrade because Justin Fields is obviously more mobile than Andy Dalton is. Andy Dalton is and he's not afraid to run the ball. Andy Dalton will sling the ball, as you can see by those four interceptions. So a very slight upgrade, not anything crazy, but for the receiving options from a fantasy perspective, I would rather see Andy Dalton in the center. Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that one, guys. Also on this side of the ball, we were very excited for Mooney this week. Alan Robinson was out. Andy Dalton in. Mooney has been a target machine here, but there was another player that got the same number of targets as him this week. Joaquin Grant and Darnell Mooney both had the same number of targets in this game and Joaquin Grant did a little bit more with them. Josh, are you reading into this at all? Is Joaquin Grant a viable fantasy option with Alan Robinson out, or is Darnell Mooney still the guy you want to start? Darnell Mooney is not even a question. I have really no interest in Joaquin Grant to be completely honest with you. And I think Darnell Mooney is a... he's growing into being a stud wide receiver. Yeah. Also, Jo, we no need to apologize. We love answering questions. I'm sorry you missed our breakdown on that there. That was the only issue there. I wish... You did not apologize. You did not apologize. And if you've got more questions, bring them in. That's what we're here for. We truly love answering questions. Oh, sorry. Excuse me over there. And then the last thing on the Chicago Baris side of this ball, David Montgomery is a good running back and it's going to be a great back to have on your teams through the playoffs. I was unbelievably wrong on how they were going to use Khalil Herbert once David Montgomery got back. Montgomery is the workhorse here. Khalil Herbert will get a couple carries a game, but Montgomery is one of the few workhorse backs in the NFL. I don't know how you have them outside of your top, like 10 guys at worst going into the playoffs. Josh, where do you view David Montgomery the rest of season, a top blank running back? Let's see. So, you know, Jonathan Taylor, Austin Eckler, Joe Mixon, Najee Harris, Elijah Mitchell, Cordell Patterson, Leonard Farnette, Nick Chubb, Alvin Kamara, David Montgomery, Antonio Gibson. You know, he's right in that group. So yeah, he's a top, he's a number one running back. He's definitely a top 12 running back. He's probably in my top 10. I thought you were just saying random running back names. I'm just kind of going down a list a little bit. I wanted to figure out exactly what you're hiding by me. But yeah, he probably winds up in that 10 to 12 range for me. We're going to talk about another running back now. We're moving out of the Arizona side of the ball. The Arizona side of the ball. Jay, before this game, where did James Conner rank in PPR running backs? 14. Six. He was the sixth running back in PPR scoring, going into this week. And that will go up. He's going to pass Zeke after this week. He's going to be a top five running back on the season. James Conner with 100. Oh, that is standard. Maybe it is wrong. 10. I said the wrong thing. I had the wrong stat pulled up. Both charts pulled up and I was looking at my standard chart. He is 10. So Jay, you are closer. But he's a top 10 running back in PPR formats, number six in standard and in half PPR. James Conner still at 10 sitting right there. But he's a top 10 back. Wow. In fantasy points scored so far this season and he scored his 13th rushing touchdown. Only Jonathan Taylor has more than him so far this season. Josh, do you view James Conner as a top 10 back going into the fantasy playoffs? For me, he's behind the likes of David Montgomery and some of these other guys simply because, look, he's going to have this role when Chase Edmonds comes back. But Chase Edmonds is going to take away some of this passing work. He's going to be on the field. I think James Conner is the running back to have in fantasy over Chase Edmonds. Don't get me wrong. But again, Chase Edmonds is going to take away relevance, especially in PPR leads for me. So he's probably closer to Saquon Barkley than he is David Montgomery for me. Jail, do you view, or do you downgrade James Conner from like a locked and loaded RB1 down to like RB2 status with Chase Edmonds coming back or how does that affect James Conner? I think we have to see. Yeah, James Conner is currently in the top 12. Like you said, he's running back 10 on the season. That has largely come on the back of touchdowns. He has had an obscene number of touchdowns. I think like every single game except one since week three, he's had at least one touchdown. That's ridiculous. It's absurd. But I do see Edmonds getting more involved in this offense enough to certainly knock James Conner down a couple spots. So I view him as a running back to going forward. Yeah. And we don't expect Edmonds back until at least next week and probably two weeks. So there's not much of the season left. Yeah. I'm probably a little bit higher on him than I think you guys are. The big reason being, I don't think it's a big deal if he gets knocked down from 20 carries a game to 16 carries a game or 15 carries a game. He makes his money with the touchdowns. It's not necessarily an efficiency thing with James Conner. Edmonds is going to be primarily the receiving back in this offense. I'm fine with James Conner. But James Conner has been making a kind of a living, not a living. He's been, he was good before, but the last four weeks they played, he's been very involved in the passing game, which I think he could lose. That's what concerns me. Just it lowers the ceiling, right? Yeah, exactly. It just, he's not that back end RB one. He's more of a high end RB two. And then Brian wants to know, is Edmonds going to be relevant anymore? So we were talking about Conner here. Is there any chance Edmonds is going to be relevant the rest of season? Jay? Josh hit the nail on the head and he's going to get his work through the passing game. So I think he could be a back end RB two simply in PPR leagues in standard leagues. I don't want any part of them, but you could do a lot worse as your RB two or flex play than Chase Edmonds once he is back. Yeah. Also OB one in here, man, you had a loaded bench at the beginning of the season. It sounds like you did not keep it though. James Conner, two of a Hubbard, Michael Carter and Alexander Madison week one. You did a great job drafting those guys, but man, sometimes it can be hard to hold on to players that aren't contributing if you need wins now. So I had no shame in having these guys off of your team this time of the year. That is going to be it for this game though. The next game we are talking about the first four PM game that we're bringing up is the Washington football team versus the Las Vegas Raiders in Washington pulled out the win 17 to 15 over the Raiders today. Another upset, another upset here. Raiders were one and a half point favorites going into this game according to FanDuel Sportsbook. The over under set at 47 and a half. So very, very easily the under here. We had some very interesting game. I think a lot of people have been very hyped on Derek Carr and this Raiders team. They didn't quite perform against a seemingly easy Washington football team defense. On the Raiders side of this ball, Derek Carr had a pretty underwhelming game 28 completions on 38 attempts for 249 yards and then two carries for 24 yards. No score, no touchdowns, no passing touchdowns, 12.36 points in your standard fantasy scoring for quarterbacks. Josh Jacobs had a very good game. He's been playing crazy well. He's running back three on the week in PPR leagues. So I have a question for you guys. Josh Jacobs, he was drafted pretty low coming into the season. Josh, I know you've been high on Josh Jacobs. I know I was high on Josh Jacobs talent. Who would you rather have rest of season going forward PPR? Josh Jacobs or Elijah Mitchell? Elijah Mitchell. Yeah, Elijah Mitchell. Just because I don't trust the Raiders to not all of a sudden start getting Kenny and Drake involved again and he loses that passing work, which he got a lot of value from today. So. All right, Josh Jacobs or take one Barkley? No, that's a good question. That's a good question. That sucks. Why did you say that one out loud? I'll leave Josh Jacobs at this point myself. It's no hesitation. It's Josh Jacobs. That hurts my feelings, but I trust me. I just died a little inside having to say that. It's a giant spin. I'm sorry. So unanimous Josh Jacobs on that one. What about Josh Jacobs or who are just talking about James Connor? Oh, I hate that question. I hate that question. It's really like goes into what you believe about Chase Edmonds when he comes back. Do you think he really takes away the entire passing game from James Connor? If so, I feel like I lean Josh Jacobs. If not, I feel like I have to go James Connor with that high powered Arizona passing game. So. I'll go. I think I lean James Connor as well. I go Connor because of the better offense. Like you were saying, Josh. All right. I think I want to go Josh Jacobs on that one. That one's close to that one. Like I'm, I was going to be upset if we all said James Connor because I didn't think that was deserving of a sweep. Yeah. So, uh, the other news in this Raiders offense Hunter Renfrow, he's been wildly consistent PPR leagues. Uh, so I had another question for you guys. Another game here. How many weeks has Hunter Renfrow had less than 10 points PPR? Josh, why don't we start with you resident Hunter Renfrow hater? How many? How many weeks? How many weeks has Renfrow had under 10 points in PPR? In his life. This season. This season. Oh, just this season. In the history of football. I'm going to say probably not two. He's probably had two. What do you think? Josh. I mean, Simon. Geez. I'll say. Hmm. I'll say one. I'll say one week. One week. Simon. Simon stole my answer. I'm going to say one. One. Josh nailed it right. Hey. Mixed against Denver. But I know all about him. Yeah. My answer. A wide receiver 21 going into this week in PPR. He scored a solid 19.2 points. BPR. He had nine rock solutions on 10 targets for 102 yards this week against Washington. Hunter Renfrow. It's consistent. I'm telling you. So out of the other wide receivers in this office, in this Raiders offense, you have Brian Edwards. You have Zay Jones. You got to Sean Jackson. Are there any of these guys who are interesting to you going forward in the right matchup? What do you think, Jay? Nope. Don't want any, but any part of this passing offense other than Hunter Renfrow. Like you, you're basically, you're hoping to get a touchdown. If anybody, Deshaun Jackson might be the guy, but I really am outside of the most desperate situations. I want no part of any of them. You believe the same thing, Simon. You're down there making faces. I'm just saying, like Deshaun Jackson is always a Hail Mary playing fantasy. I don't care what team he's on, what he's been doing. You can plug him in and hope for a 70 yard touchdown any given week. But unless you're throwing a Deshaun Jackson, Hail Mary. Nope. All right. Moving on to the Washington side of this ball. I know we were worried about Antonio Gibson and his shin injury earlier on in the season. And so I wanted to ask you guys how you're feeling about Antonio Gibson now. He had an incredible game this week. Let's see when we pull up this number. He had 23 carries for 88 yards, five receptions and six targets, 23 yards and a touchdown. Are you at all concerned about Antonio Gibson and his shin injury now? Let's start with you, Josh. Yeah. We have to have that conversation, don't we? Because we were very concerned about that for pretty much the entire year, right? But the last four weeks, ever since they came off there by, it seems like the team is ready to give him this workload now. And I guess I'm bought in. He's getting the catches the last couple of weeks in that flying over JD McKessick a little bit. Week 10, 24 carries. Week 11, 19 carries. Week 12, 29 carries. Week 13, 23 carries. I'm with you, Josh. You gotta, you kind of feel comfortable putting him in your lineup at this point. It's been so frustrating because I was fully bought in going into the year. They convinced me not to be bought in. And then as soon as they convinced me, they're like, just kidding. He is the guy you thought he was. 23 carries a game. Like, like I feel like Washington's just been toying with me because Gibson's looking like what we expected going into the season. This like truly potential top five kind of back, like a top five, top 10 running back in the NFL. But yeah, I'm in, I'm in. Didn't take much to convince me back. And like you said earlier, JL, there's not much of the season left after this week. There's in most leagues, one regular season and then potentially three playoff games. So the volume he's getting, the way he's playing, he's locked and loaded in every lineup that I have him. Yeah, I'm with you guys. It's the second week in a row that we saw Terry McClaren scored under 10 PPR fantasy points. How about Terry McClaren? Are you guys at all worried about Terry McClaren going forward? No, I think this is more or less what he's done the entire season. He's had some disappointing games here and there. But again, his upside is that he's obviously the most talented receiver on this team, maybe the most talented player. You got to keep him in your fantasy lineup. They're playoff schedule going. So the playoff schedule going forward fantasy playoff schedule is week 14 Dallas week 15 Philly week 16 Dallas week 17 Philly. It was pretty interesting, pretty funny. So, you know, it's not, those aren't necessarily the easiest past defenses. So something to consider there. Then the only other person I want to bring up on this team is Logan Thomas. Logan Thomas finally came back. He's been balling out this week. He had three complete three receptions on five targets, 48 yards in a touchdown. Unfortunately, he was ruled out for the remainder of the game, the knee injury. So we'll have to keep an eye on that. Yeah. He'll be really disappointing if he's out the rest of the season. He was looking to be lined up to be like a sneaky kind of league winning type play at tight end with the way he can get involved in this offense, but fingers crossed that he comes back healthy. Yep. Guys, we're going to move on to our next game. Now the next game, Josh, I know the wound is fresh. You're going to make me talk about this, huh? Baltimore Ravens versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. And you know what? I love that they went for it at the end of the game. They said one play, let's win it or lose it. I know it didn't work out, but I love that coaching. I love that decision. You love it when it works. Yeah. As a Ravens fan, I just know how this works. I mean, we were away. This is, that's a lot of the time when you're in a CA team, go for it. Go for two there. And when it comes down to it, I know how Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh's relationship works. I'm sure John Hart, Lamar made the decision is like, look, John Harbaugh is just like Lamar, are you ready to go? Can you do this? And I guess he thought he was ready, but I heard it was a drop that kind of, it kind of came down to I did miss the end of the game, but this game. They should have won the game. I saw it. They should have won the game. It's really disappointing, but it's okay. Get out of here. He's even waiting for us to talk about this. He just pressed enter as soon as he was just waiting for it. So the Ravens were four point favorites coming into this game, according to the Fandall Sportsbook. It was like 44 point over under, which obviously they did not go over. It was 39 total points. The Steelers pulled out the win. Lamar Jackson, he, he had a fine game. This is not what you want to see out of Lamar Jackson, though, if he's your fantasy quarterback where he's throwing for one touchdown, only getting 55 rushing yards, 253 passing yards. Again, he's going to need more production if you're going to feel great about having him because again, you're expecting a lead production every week from Lamar Jackson. We just have not gotten a lot that the last few weeks. Let's start there, guys. Jay, I want to come to you. Are you at all concerned about Lamar Jackson's performance this last few weeks? He's been pretty disappointing, but you got to keep putting him in your quarterback position, right? Yeah. I mean, there's no chance that you're benching Lamar Jackson outside of a one QB league that you somehow wound up with Lamar Jackson and Justin Herbert or something like that, which is highly unlikely, but yeah, it is disappointing. I have Lamar Jackson in a lot of leagues and he's costing me games. You're expecting, you know, at baseline, you know, two touchdowns, 60, 70 yards on the ground, and he's just not doing it right now. He's not playing awful. He's just not making those plays to elevate the team, you know, and some of it's not his fault, like the drop, you know, they should have won this game. There was a couple other drops. You know, is it that the rushing game, you know, having guys like Devonta Freeman, although he played well, you know, let Devonta Freeman run free and, you know, keep it, keep a spy on Lamar Jackson. You're starting him, but there's definitely concerned that he's not going to be that superstar quarterback fantasy wise that can lead you to a championship. Any, any disagreements or jail? You still feel okay though? I still feel fine. You still put him in your lineup. Yeah. Yeah, you have to. You have to. The rushing floor gives him so much upside. You throw him in your lineups, but, you know, he, the turnovers are absolutely concerning and there's something you got to kind of be aware of. Same thing, Simon. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you guys. I think the turnovers are a fixable problem as well. So I'm not too concerned about it. It does seem like his lack of production a little bit in the passing game has leaked over to the wide receiver in tight end position a little bit. I'm not nervous about Mark Andrews. We're not even going to talk about him. We were, we've talked about him earlier in the show. He's going to lead tight end, but Marquis Hollywood Brown, you know, again, a little bit of a streak of disappointing games here where he did miss a game two weeks ago. But again, are you like, I'm still ranking Marquis Brown. Let me ask you guys a question. Is it Marquis Brown or Michael Pittman going forward? Simon, I want to ask you first. Marquis Brown. All right. For me. You too. You too, Joe. Yeah. It's Marquis Brown. You too. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. you could do a heck of a lot worse. Yeah, he's right in that range. Maybe maybe a high end running back three. But again, I think for most teams, especially in this landscape of running backs, you got to be starting him. Does anyone disagree? Is anyone kind of still a little bit nervous for DeWant to Freeman? No? Nope. All right, I like that we're all high. Now on the Pittsburgh high. Yes, we are. On the Pittsburgh Steelers side of the ball, Ben Ralfelsberger, you know, he had a fine game. I don't think you ever really feel comfortable having him as you're starting quarterback in fantasy, maybe in a super flex league. Najee Harris was good, getting 21 carries, 71 yards. He got his five catches that he gets. He got to plug him in there every week. Deontay Johnson guys, Deontay Johnson. Deontay Johnson is a wide receiver one, especially in PBR leagues. Tell me if you disagree. Someone, someone argue with me. I can't. I can't. I cannot. You can't. You can't. He had a fantastic game, getting eight catches, 11 targets, 105 yards and two touchdowns. Now I am concerned about Chase Claypool a little bit. I know JL, you and me, we're pretty high on Chase Claypool. Yeah, we like what we've seen from him. But again, he had another disappointing game this week. I think at best he's a flex play, right, JL? Yeah. Yeah. At this point, probably not. You know what? You say a little higher? He's a flex play. He's probably a flex play. But I would happily throw him in that wide receiver three slot every week. I think he's consistent enough. He's not blowing your socks off, but he's getting points. What if you don't have socks on? If you don't have socks on, then he's blowing whatever. Pat Fryermuth, three catches, 26 yards, but he did get that two point conversion. As long as he gets a touchdown, you're going to be happy. And he's getting enough targets. He's in the glove. He's in the glove. He's in the glove. Right, Simon, in the glove. I hope he can remove himself from the glove a little next year, but this year he is. Very hard to remove yourself from the glove. It's so sticky. It's so sticky. This was a great game when it comes down to it. The Ravens did it to us again. They, you know, you watch, you wait till the end and it's going to go one way or the other. Like first football games, right guys? The most exciting team in the NFL. One team is going to win and one team is going to lose by the end. Yes. And if the Ravens are playing, they'll be one of those teams for sure. Yes, absolutely. They will play. They will score points, maybe, and they will win or lose. If they score more points than the other team, they will win. That is fair. That's mind blowing. Guys, we are going to move on to our next game, the San Francisco 49ers versus the Seattle Seahawks. And this was a fun game to watch. There was all sorts of weird stuff going on in this game. There was the fake punt with the direct snap to Travis Homer for what, a 73 yard touchdown or something like that. It was 70 plus yards. Sweet front flip into the end zone. Oh my gosh, that was awesome. And then the Seahawks had a safety to tie the game at 23. This was just a, or at 25, this was just a bizarre, bizarre game or 23. I was right the first time my brain stopped working on me after that. But put a fun game to watch nonetheless. We'll start on the San Francisco side of this ball. Jimmy Garoppolo did not have his best game. He threw two touchdowns, but he also threw 10 or 10. He also threw two interceptions as well. JL, do you think there's any chance we see Trey Lance as the starter with Jimmy Garoppolo healthy rest of season going down the stretch here? Do you think Jimmy G's got this locked out for the rest of the year? Well, and the way you phrase that question, yes, there is a chance. That chance is extremely low. I don't think that we'll see that. What about going into next year, J? Do you think Trey Lance is going to be the answer here? Do you think they're going to resign Jimmy or do you think Trey Lance is going to be the answer going forward? I think Trey Lance will be starting next year. I think Jimmy Garoppolo will be under center for another team next year. Maybe the Steelers. Please don't send Aaron Rodgers there. Just anything but Aaron Rodgers. George Kittle did George Kittle things. 981 receiving yards, two receiving touchdowns. I saw someone in there earlier saying that they played Kittle this week. Leonard Fournette the week before and Jonathan Taylor the week before that. You got Kittle so hard this week. I'm so sorry about that, but that is a rough stretch. That's fantasy football. That's fantasy football. Outside of that, not too much on the 49er side of the ball. I kind of expected with Debo Samuel out for Brandon Nayuk to step up and kind of continue that upward trajectory that we've been seeing, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Josh, how are you viewing Brandon Nayuk rest of season? How am I viewing Brandon Nayuk the rest of the season? Now, we really expected a good game here with Debo Samuel out, but Debo Samuel, he's been playing a little running back lately, hasn't he? Yes. I like Brandon Nayuk. He got six targets today, three catches, 55 yards. It's not horrible. Most teams are probably throwing him as a flex. I'd rather have Marquis Brown, Michael Pittman, that kind of range of wide receiver over him. He gets type over top, but he's probably a high and wide receiver's three still. Gail, we're moving to the other side of the ball, and I want to play a game with you real quick. So Tyler Lock, he got the touchdown today. We saw Dwayne Asker get a touchdown, but the guy everyone wanted to see get a touchdown, DK Metcalf did not get in the end zone. So we're going to go with who would you rather have for the rest of the season? So going into playoffs, we'll start with a name we've talked about a lot. DK Metcalf or Michael Pittman, Jr.? Metcalf. Metcalf. DK Metcalf or Jaylin Waddle? PPR. PPR. Waddle. Waddle. Jay, I'm curious, where do you stand on this one? Is it Waddle or is it DK Metcalf? It's got to be Waddle. Yeah. It's strange as that sounds to say. Yeah. It's got to be Waddle. Josh, do you agree with him? Yes. Let's do one more. Someone that has been struggling recently. We just talked about him a little bit. Marquis Brown or DK Metcalf, rest of season, JL? Oh, God. I don't like that one. I don't like that one either. I think I would still go DK Metcalf, but that one sucks. I'm going to make Josh and Jay answer it because you guys both like audibly groaned when I said it. Josh, is it DK Metcalf or Marquis Brown? Marquis Brown. Marquis Brown. Jaylin Waddle. Hey, Josh. I got to go Marquis Brown. Honestly. Bars in the truck saying Metcalf, but sorry. Go ahead, Jay. Yeah. I mean, it's a toss up, but I do think that the Ravens offense is going to turn this around. And I just, I don't trust the Seattle offense. One thing. Shout out to Russell Wilson, who looked, he looked pretty good today. All in all. Right. So that was the next thing I was going to bring up is based on what we've been seeing recently from him. This was a much better game for Russell Wilson. The last thing I did want to bring up for the Seahawks before I move on to our last game though is, um, a running back that made his first appearance for them. Adrian Peterson at 11 carries for 16 yards in one rushing touchdown. Jay, is there anything here with Adrian Peterson? Can you add him? Can you start him? If you're going to start a Seahawks running back. Is it, is it AD? No. No. No. No. No, no, no. Anyone have an answer besides no for any of those? I don't feel shot. Penny got 10 cares. We're shot. Penny did get 10. He's, but I think maybe the answers were not starting any of those of guys real quickly. We're going to move on to our last game. The Jacksonville Jaguars versus the Los Angeles Rams. Again, another close one. I think the Jaguars might have covered the spread, but I'm not positive losing this game seven to 37. They didn't. I'm lying. Yeah. So we don't have much time left. So I'm just going to go into something real quick. That's really been grinding my gears. Do it. Do it. Urban Meyer. What are you doing? What are you doing? Urban Meyer. James Robinson is the best offensive player on your team. We're not playing football with leather helmets. He fumbled the ball. Aaron Donald, arguably the best defensive player in the league, stripped the ball from him. Big whoop. It happens. You're in a game that you have no business being a part of. And you bench James Robinson for 85 year old Carlos Hyde. What are you doing? Get Urban Meyer out of here. You won't use the misca Chinalt the proper way. Just go back to the bar dancing with girls. Jay, we have nothing else to say about this game. That was awesome. That was such a great rant. I can't believe you started it with what grind your gears and then that came out because that was beauty right there. That was so good. Brian said I bought a new soundbar just to hear it. Yeah. Well worth the investment at that point. Guys, that is going to be the last game we're talking about today. We are going into Sunday night football. I know everyone wants to go watch that before we leave though a couple of reminders. 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