 Like what what they were shown? I Think they were they were shown souls actually falling into hell All right, and then you saw people in like a river in like a lake or a sea of fire Wow, they said souls were falling to hell Like snowflakes Wow, so let's We're live mercy. Okay. Yeah, we're live now. So let's say hey friends You're walking watching behind the scenes divine it to see radio and we're doing part two on Fatima and the devotion the first five Saturdays and Okay On your mark get set go. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome to divine intimacy radio Your radio haven of brass your hermitage of the heart your monastery of the mind where we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw on the wisdom of the saints and And today we're talking about Apparitions, I want you know something really quit with Father Matthew McDonald I was about to say right have a guess right and I don't know and I never I've never sang for a guess So, you know, he's he's obviously pretty special the one thing I want to plug In and I don't know exactly when this show era I need to be Tien but There is a book coming out Father on Apparitions and that sort of thing By Father Gabriel of St. Mary Magdalene who wrote of course divine intimacy with many at which which our show is named after When by Sophia and soup press just a brief blurb on that book father because you wrote the forward or Or in it the introduction to when is that coming out because it's relevant to this topic so it's coming out the end of the June I believe June 28th of this year and 2022 2022 and it's a series of conferences that father Gabriel of St. Mary Magdalene gave at the Tresian and in Rome In 1938 and 1939 that were put together in a book And I use in my MA thesis at seminary at St. Joseph's Seminary in Dunwoody, which I wrote on discern the private revelations and what this book is on is basically Looking at the theology of St. Teresa of Abba St. John the cross when I Receive something in prayer in the form of a vision or a location How does that manifest to the person through the different faculties What's its place in the life of faith? How does one properly discern? Those visions or revelations and what's the role of the spiritual director and assisting Souls that receive something in prayer and going about that rightly One of the reasons we decided and father father Matthew really brought this up and proposed it I think is that be in our time because things are so difficult There's all kinds of private revelation popping up and people are running around and following this person or that person or they're Having, you know their own experiences. So which is not uncommon or should I say that it is common when when situations like this occur because special graces do come in the most difficult of times and So this book we're hoping it will be a light to better understand How do I embrace those things which are authentic and then how do I set aside those things which are not so? Thank you for bringing that to light father. I'm excited about that book coming to bear So so am I I'm looking forward to seeing the fruit that the word, you know brings forth from it So so we're on our part two of a show on app on the apparition at Fatima to the Lucia Francisco and Jacinta Regarding the first Saturday devotion and the reason we're focused on that is because there's a lot going on in the church about the consecration to Russia or consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and Instead of focusing on things we don't ultimately control and we can't perfectly understand We thought it would be healthier to focus on things that we can Do or participate in related to the visions And so in the first show we talked about what it was what the vision was What are the blasphemies committed against the Blessed Mother the requirements and the promises now? We're going to go to kind of a Q&A of key questions About this and you can find that the document that summarizes all of this at Apostoli va.org, but father the first question is what if I miss? The first Saturday do I have to start over? Yes, according to Sister Lucia Jesus said to her It's true my daughter that many souls begin the first Saturdays a few finish them and those who do complete them Do so in order to receive the graces that are promised thereby It would please me more if they did five with fervor and with the intention of making Reparation to the heart of your heavenly mother than if they did 15 and a tepid and indifferent matter Beautiful so we're to pray with our whole heart our whole mind our whole body all that we are It's such a beautiful thing. We always need to remember that he wants all of us He is a beautiful jealous lover that wants us to love and make a reparation and The devotion with all that we are yeah beautiful thing So what if I can't receive holy communion on a Saturday? I mean because sometimes people have to work or or whatever that you know, what if they can't receive or You know, I don't know how you do one with the other you have to attend So if you're at mass, but maybe it's they're not able to because there's a state of mortal sin State of mortis and that would be the only reason or or their circumstances in life where they're not For some reason they're not allowed to mm-hmm, right? I don't know so father. What do we what do we know about this? So sister Lucia asked Jesus about this and he said the practice of this devotion will be equally accepted on the Sunday following the first Saturday when for just reasons my priests will allow it. So what are the just reasons? Some places in the country may not have a Saturday morning mass So and that's becoming more common so the only mass they may offer is a Saturday vigil mass, okay? So if you mention that to your parish priest Then the obligation can count and he could give permission Same same with Ken law states that when you go to your pastor or you go to your parochial vicar at your parish Let's say you have to miss mass on a Sunday because of legitimate reasons It's better to go to them and check in and they could dispense you then just to miss the mass Right, and it's not an illegitimate reason would be just convenience or yeah, you know I needed to wash my car or yeah, something something silly like that Yeah, there's a special note here that says Saturday vigil masses will count with permission of your pastor But this option should only be used if you don't have a Saturday morning mass available and you know It's fascinating about this So Jesus says When for just reasons my priests Will allow it. It's in our time. I think The role of the priest is much diminished in terms of the importance of the priests with respect to Eucharist the distribution of communion just in general how priests are treated or seen and and the The priesthood of the believer which is a doctrine That the church teaches but it's totally it's very different than Then the priesthood that father Matthew Lives out But what I find here fascinating is that Jesus is saying You know divine divine graces will be distributed in a variant manner if a priest and any priest in good standing, I guess right Any priest allows it? I just I find that awesome. It's a great kind of Re-centering if you will or reorientation of a proper understanding of how even heaven Will will based on the priest's permission heaven will convey graces or withhold graces if the priest says no, it's not valid Is that a good am I tell me if I'm in the right ballpark well? Oh, you're absolutely in the in the right ballpark and in the best policy is When in doubt go to your parish priests whether it's your pastor or your political vicar and again the It can law states that Priests have the authority to dispense Pastors can dispense as well as Procure vicar's can dispense on a case-by-case basis So if you're having trouble and you're trying to do the devotion go to your pastor or go to your Procure vicar and explain To them your scenario and this could be done especially in fashion or spiritual direction Okay, beautiful, and I'm even thinking in the case of like doctors nurses Oh, yeah, that's you know folks that have to work over police officers police officers have to work on Saturday I can't get to them Saturday morning mass. Yeah, so Just knowing that they can go to their priests and speak to them and on a case-by-case basis the priest can help them You know, I think that the biggest importance is the desire to make this reparation and then following through with with just being Humble and speaking to your priest about it. So here's another question father. What if I can't go to confession on first Saturday? So sister asked Jesus about this too and Jesus said to her Yes, it can be made later on Provided that the souls are in the state of grace when they receive me on the first Saturday and that they had the intention of making reparation to the sacred heart of Mary Beautiful. So not to be overly I don't know Gosh, I can't even think of the word but Overly simplistic. Maybe it's the right word, but what does it mean to be in a state of grace? I think we talk about that a lot and assume everybody knows but given that 70% of Ordinary form attendees of mass don't believe in the Eucharist. I think a state of grace is an important Something to explain So a state of grace is an awareness that you're not Fully immortal sin. So mortal sin is an action that in the catechism it states Constitutes grave matter. So something that's very bad So the church uses the seven deadly sins or the ten commandments to gauge that Then full knowledge. So I know that I'm doing something that is very bad And then full consent of the will so I freely choose to do something that I know is very bad And if there's any doubt on that then it's not a mortal sin. Hello Hi father we can hear you you want to start the prayer. All right, you got it Name of the father and the son of the Holy Spirit in man Lord Jesus Christ sovereign king and thrown into heaven and your love and mercy establish a perimeter of protection With your precious blood around our communication devices and all technology used during this session the cameras or webcams microphones Speakers displays and all software Why five connections in the air both my router and the router of The Aval Institute and divine intimacy radio and anyone assisting the optic cables involved with the transmission of data The light waves being used to transfer data Cleanse them with your precious blood and drive from them any satanic influence Established around them a sanctuary of your mercy where Satan and any other evil spirit or human agency cannot interfere I asked father that you will block bind and rebuke and render impotent any assault of the evil one from them in any way Fathers so long as these instruments are utilized in the ministry in this ministry of divine mercy We ask that you allow them to enjoy the protection of the blessed mother st. Michael the archangel the holy angels St. John the cross st. Teresa of Abba and st. Francisco and st. Jacinta Marta and the servant of God sister Lucía de los Santos We ask this in your most holy name the name before which every knee shall bow in heaven on earth under the earth That is Jesus Christ Who is lord of all amen amen amen spirit amen? Okay, well, let's hear live through all of that. All right Oh, interesting. Okay. So for those folks who are wondering what went what happened. There was a lightning strike We're we're in a big storm right now in Alabama. So There was a lightning strike and all the power went out and all that so Right as father was explaining mortal sin Yeah, so he said a mortal sin is and So father what's great about it was I had this presence of mind to hit the studio clock and turn it off So I know exactly where we are there and you don't have to worry about it Jordan it's fine for us and then And I know exactly where you were about where you were stopped So i'm going to ask you the same question again for the sake of our editor at eta v tn And for the sake of souls apparently for the sake of souls, right? um And uh, and then you can you can jump back in so Jordan. Are we recording and all that we're good Okay, so the question I asked you father was, you know, jesus said Provide yes It can it can be made later. He's speaking of course of confession Provided the souls are in a state of grace when they receive me on the first saturday So which interesting about this is is jesus himself is indicating a person Needs to be in a state of grace which I've heard some strange arguments against before but Tell us a bit father. What does it mean to be in a state of grace? And what is the mortal sin? What is the mortal sin? Yeah, so to be in a state of grace means you're not Aware of any mortal sin That you've done in the past That's on your soul All right for something to be a mortal sin Asked me three requirements and this is found in the catechism of the catholic church So it must be grave matter Something that's very bad And the gauge that the church uses to determine that is a violation of the 10 commandments and the seven deadly sins With particular commandments not every violation of all the 10 commandments Are mortal sins but with certain commandments every violation of those commandments is a mortal sin So that's requirement number one like that's not not kill Yes, the vow shall not kill. Thou shall not commit adultery things like that any any by well, particularly thou shall not kill Thou shall not commit adultery rather there Every violation is a mortal sin Second requirement one must have full knowledge So you must know that the action that you're doing Is a very bad So there must be invincible ignorance now if if there is some Responsibility on your part that you're doing something And you choose not to know Then that's a sinful form of negligence Where you're doing something that you should know Is very bad and you choose not to form your conscience in the right way, but if it's hey father I'm sorry. I have to stop you there. We have to go to break but keep put a marker there when we come back We'll jump right into that. We'll be right back On your mark. It's it go wait reset stop Mark said go Welcome back. This is danis. Stephanie Burke with divine intimacy radio. We're talking about the five first saturday devotions In the fatima revelations with father matthew mcdonald before the break I'm sorry. I had to cut you off father You were talking about the definition or what does it mean to be in a state of mortal sin? And what'd you pick up where you left off? So we're talking about full knowledge, which is the second requirement Um for an action to be mortal sin So I must have beaten visibly ignorant So through no fault of my own Um, I'm not aware that an action I did is very bad You know is a great matter now You don't want to fall into a scrupulosity and that's something that some people Struggle with and it's a cross So if you don't have a hundred percent Certainty that an action that you did is very bad. It's not a mortal sin Okay, then the third requirement is full consent of the will so I must freely choose To do an action that I know is very bad okay, so again, if a circumstance comes up beyond my control or if I'm under Such great pressure that I I can't freely and rationally choose to do To do something or I Irrationally choose to do something that I know is very bad That's not a sin. Okay, so for an for an action to be immortal sin It must have all three of those requirements 100 percent If not, it's not a mortal sin. Okay, nonetheless It's good to bring to the priest the confession nonetheless Very good. Absolutely. Very good. So I know Stephanie's got our next question in line So the question is it takes me 15 minutes to pray five decades of the rosary, which that's a fast rosary, by the way Does that count as my 15 minutes with mary according to the requirements? new It's important that If we pray the rosary We spend time in mental prayer And mental prayer opens us up to the action of God in our prayer, which is known as contemplation So if we're speeding Gonzalez with the rosary, it's important that we give Our lady another 15 minutes Sister Lucia wrote to her mother in 1927 the 15 minutes of meditation Is what can it seems to me give you difficulty, but it's quite easy Who after all cannot contemplate the mysteries of the rosary who cannot spend 15 minutes these holy thoughts Near the most tender of mothers So again, sometimes if we tend to pray a fast rosary or we don't have time to Really take time to open ourselves to mental prayer and rosary We could take an additional time or maybe Open our bibles. We open sacred scripture. We focus in on A passage from the gospel or scripture that deals with the rose with the mystery of the rosary That we're praying and we can choose any mystery we want and we spend 15 to 20 minutes Or if we're praying a rosary and we're taking our time Um, and the Lord begins to speak to us in that mystery It's important that we sit with the Lord's action in that mystery. We're attentive to it and we yield to it You know, uh, I wrote a book about this with conny rossini. You did. It's a great book It's called the contemplative rosary. And so if you If you I and I would actually strongly recommend and I hadn't planned on doing this But just as he was describing it. I'm thinking that was to the book, you know Uh, the contemplative rosary You can get it at e w t n's religious catalogs. Sophia Institute press But if you want to really have a deep dive on the rosary during this time Use that book There's also an app for that and it's a beautiful app. Yeah, I have the contemplative rosary. It's c dot Rosary and you can find it through your app store. So really beautiful sacred art has all the meditations and the scripture Meditations the extension of the prayers and everything. So father just so I don't miss the That we're perfectly clear on this It's I've got to do the decades of the rosary But uh, is it 15 minutes more? Then let's say a healthy rosary time in a separate time of meditation or is it Being slow in the rosary and what am I in a meditative way? Yeah, it's it could be both And okay, so I so let's say I'm used to praying the rosary in my car Yeah um And again, I'm speedy Gonzalez then maybe Later in the day when I have more time to pray and to spend before the lord Turn to our lady and then offer that time of mental prayer To her choosing one of the mysteries of the rosary that are related to the day so Some some people pray the joyful mysteries on saturday. Some people pray the the glorious Some people pray 20 mysteries in a day or 15 So choose one of those mysteries and just sit with it and say lord i'm offering this time to make reparation for the sins committed against the mac at heart of mary and and See what what our lady reveals to you During that time of prayer and what our lord reveals to you during that time of prayer in the Contemplative rosary book to aid you with that so it has the The the the intention of the meditation to which virtue you want it as the scripture reading It has a clausular recommendation for a way to pray To remind yourself of the mystery at the apex of the rosary And then it has seven meditations on each rosary at the at the end At the end of each so It's really it'll really help you to dig in and to you know The other thing you can do is use a kind of Ignatian method of putting yourself in the scene Of the rosary and considering what the blessed mother is trying to reveal to you or are leading you to Understand about the lord and that sort of thing. So I this has been a great walk through father I think my prayer is and I'm I'm going to do it again because you know, even as I Went through this today and of course read this article before because actually I didn't write it But I posted this morning of unapostly via word Is I realized that I my disposition of heart Uh, wasn't quite there and I I doubt You know that I read that I don't recall Taking all these things into into account and really doing this with a very deliberate Intention and the 15 minutes of meditation and and all of that. So This has been great for me personally. I'm gonna I'm gonna go Do it again, but maybe right for the first time right and you have you done it yet I have not done it. And so I I started with the intention On april second, which was my birthday you started The intention of the first Okay, so you did so you already did your first of the first five, right? That's great. Yeah, and you're gonna finish it in our on our israel Pilgrimage. Yes that I was actually looking at that and I thought well the june day We'll hit when we're in israel god be praised. Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah, maybe we'll be at the church of the dormitant The lord's always in the detail So I'm not going to put it. I'm not going to put it past him to Set something up so beautiful or something even more spectacular than that So folks if you come in on the the second half of this broadcast or this podcast broadcast or podcast that rhymes And you want to get the first one you can always head out to spiritualdirection.com and All of these are posted All of our shows are posted out there eventually But the article that we've referenced and kind of the guide sheet if you will For this has been on the blog. It's on the blog Of our community website apostoleva.org fadema and the devotion of Fight for saturdays And I pray that you'll do this. I mean I think One of the things about our time That is challenging is Many people are speculating about many things that are outside of their control Which really in the ultimate don't really matter It's a grand waste of time in many ways. It is because in the end so much Well, when it's outside of our control it's outside of our control It's a distraction from prayer and from staying in the present moment I I truly believe that that is a complete distraction And it's a it's where the serpent's tail is it's like instead of focusing on this consecration Of russia to the immaculate heart and all the graces that can come and the beauty of prayer and our own need for purification and In our own need to be truly To truly abide with the lord and to go to our lady You know, it's like, oh no go look over here and speculate about something that that we don't know Right, we won't know until the other side Of of this life. And so why does it matter? I I really think it's like oh go look over there and be critical and you mentioned the serpent I do think it's demonic distraction. I do too. Go look at this. Go look at this prophet Go look at this one. You know this one who's saying this You know people always ask me just because by nature of my role Oh, did did you see this prophecy? Do you do you read this? My answer is always no No, I focus on what I know and you know, the my favorite answer which is is totally sincere true important is The church In in her normative reality gives you all that you need For your salvation. You don't need any more knowledge Any other special information? father Anything to add to that With private revelations, especially fatima fatima is one of the few private revelations that's received the highest endorsement of the church So with private revelations, we give them human faith not divine faith all right and that's that's spoken about and Pope Benedict the 16th when he was Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger's theological commentary on the third secret of fatima and we believe prudently as proper to proper piety But because fatima has been elevated To such a degree again, you don't need to believe in it to get into heaven But because the church has endorsed it in such a way you'd be foolish to ignore it and again our our lady Knows our hearts And even though her heart is move is wounded by our sins She is the mother of jesus the mother church our mother and she Will take whatever we give In good faith in love despite it being imperfect And give it to her son And the son and jesus will use it In miraculous ways perfectly stated perfectly stated in a perfect ending to the show So actually i'd like to end with this Okay, you want to read that as the end? Yes, because this is what sister lucia later wrote to her godmother. All right So we'll end with this It seems to me my dear godmother that we are fortunate to be able to give our our dear heavenly mother this proof of love For we know that she desires it to be offered to her As for myself I avow that i am never so happy as when first saturday arrives Isn't it true that our greatest happiness is to belong entirely to jesus and mary and to love them and them alone without reserve We see this so clearly in the lives of the saints They were happy because they loved and we dear godmother we must seek to love as they did Not only to enjoy jesus, which is the least important Because if we do not enjoy him here below we will enjoy him up above But to give jesus and mary the consolation for being loved And that in exchange for this love They might be able to save many souls and that's it for divine intimacy radio god bless so and We're way we're way over. We can't do that. Sorry. That's okay because we were at 13 at the break. So we look 13 13