 Almost the same for me. I don't like to work out When exercise so like some gyms are really warm I can't those exercises the cool you down those are the ones Older the more you work if I can exercise in a room that's just constantly like at 63 degrees I'd be fine. Well, some gyms are like that the gym I go to is not air-conditioned 63 degrees. Yeah, I'll just go swimming in a cool pool, right? Yeah, maybe maybe swimming is the answer might be Or cryogenic tanks all we are saying is give cryogenic tanks a chance Freezing is here if you want it Uh, hey Patrick Beja and I are cooking something up So we are we tell them Patrick or should we just leave it there? Oh, no. Oh that thing. Yes. No, let's wait until it's Done yet still cooking It's just a repackaging well now you're starting to give hints. Yeah That's already good. Yeah, but I don't want people to be left overs I should add leftovers to the recipe book Just leftovers just take it out of the fridge reheat. That's your recipe That would be a great recipe order pizza stick in the fridge Rogers delicious leftovers Well, that is that I can tell JF Dubot the author and graphic designer has Agreed to help us make the layout of the recipe book Nice, I didn't tell any of you guys that tell just now I knew how to cook things You probably do I I'm with you I know how to cook a few things really well and everything else not at all and I actually You know if I'm being honest was that my corner store this morning being like can we get more of the cheddar frozen burritos? Because the like black bean ones are not that good and he was like, okay, Patrick just Submit, you know your wife's grandma's sister's recipe and That's that's the secret family recipe your great aunt-in-law Yes, yeah, what do you said make sure make sure she gets on on board. Yeah, well Justin Submitted like a grandma what a recipe from his grandma, right or an aunt. I can't remember that You know one of my grandma's was not a good cook. So there wouldn't be anything From her side, but one of my mother's mother was a great cook Which is why my mother's a really good cook and I don't know what happened to me my grandma Yeah Grandma just delicious Can I can I submit just a dish I like yeah from a recipe that is like or like a restaurant that I enjoy If you know what the ingredients are and you know what the prep is take one Option add 15 miles Yeah, I'm just gonna add some like mummofuku ramen recipes and be like those are my favorites. Here we go. You guys ready? Yeah Three Do you enjoy hearing the tech news delivered by smart informed people me too learn more about how you can support this show at daily tech News show comm slash support This is the daily tech news for Tuesday July 17th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm scooter Lane and Wow, I didn't expect that one even though you said before that you would from uncharacteristically Warm Finland. I'm Patrick Beja Putting the hell in Helsinki, huh? Yeah, really. It's like 30 degrees which is like I looked it up 86 and let me tell you Finland is not used to that kind of weather warmer in Finland than it is in Los Angeles interesting Don't you find that interesting producer Roger Chang? Yes, I find it mildly interesting as I would well We're gonna talk about an interesting article from courts as a matter of fact about problems that reformed and Released past criminals from people have served their time paid their debt to society are having with sharing services Particularly Airbnb, but let's start with a few tech things you should know Samsung announced a completed fabrication functional testing and Validation of a prototype 8 gigabit LPDDR5 module capable of iterates up to 6.4 gigabits per second per pin The LPDDR5 standard itself has yet to be completed and the JED E see which is the solid state technology association only first announced work on DDR5 Last year with the specification due at some point this year TLDR if you prefer faster memory with shorter battery life come into phones LPDDR5 I think I'll wait for LPDDR6 though. That's just like you The world's longest running Successful digital banking network and Pessa is in talks with the if you if you opium government to expend into that country According to Reuters sources Safricoms and Pessa has around 20 million active users in Kenya Transforming the economy as it allows people easier access to financial services and liquid telecom and telecom Egypt announced the signing of a memorandum of understanding to complete Africa's terrestrial fiber network not running out into the ocean they've got those going on but this one will go only over land all The way from Cape Town to Cairo liquid telecom will link its network from Sudan into telecom Egypt's network through a new cross-border connection completing the one Africa broadband network project that has been underway for more than 10 years It's Safari calm by the way, not Safari calm Let's talk a little bit more about patent wars. Yay IBM is seeking a hundred and sixty seven million dollars in a lawsuit against Groupon Which IBM accuses of using patented technology without IBM's authorization an attorney Representing IBM told the jury in federal court in Delaware that Groupon infringed patents Describing fundamental e-commerce technology that had already been licensed to Amazon Facebook and Google for between $20 million and $50 million per company Groupon argues that IBM was Overreading the scope of its patents and claiming or ownership of building blocks of the internet Yeah, one of the arguments Groupon's making is we're doing this on the web These patents from prodigy years don't apply to the web and IBM didn't invent the web So they shouldn't apply so I'm not sure that's the way patents really work But two of the patents are from the Prodigy online service era. They expired in 2015 So what IBM is going after is the Groupon use of them up until 2015 They're not trying to assert expired patents They're saying you were using them when they were not expired and so you owe us money for that But basically IBM makes about 2% of its revenue from patent enforcement and it's high margin I mean other than legal costs for enforcing it. They don't have to spend a lot of money on that Well, and I'm not going to speculate if if the two are related But we do know that Groupon is looking to sell itself and has been for a while so one might wonder if You're going to defend yourself in court because what else are you going to do? But you're also possibly hoping to get an influx of money in order to make this whole thing go away U.s. Representative Mike Kaufman of Colorado has introduced the 21st century Internet Act Which would ban blocking throttling paid prioritization and place internet regulation Firmly under the jurisdiction of the FCC not the FTC the bill would modify the Communications Act of 1934 with a new Title 8 for the Internet the rules are similar in the bill to the 2015 open Internet guidelines that were recently removed by the FCC That would include handling cases of zero rating on a case-by-case basis It also specifically bars the FCC from rate regulation and does not classify ISPs as common carriers However Kaufman's efforts are up against Tennessee representative Marsha Blackburn's ISP favored legislation that would prevent any net neutrality rules from being reinstated Representative Kaufman from Colorado however said he will also sign off on the Congressional Review Act movement That wants to reverse the FCC order to remove the open Internet guidelines that act passed the Senate 52 to 47 in May But is about 45 votes short in the house so three things going on one is a vote to overturn the FCC's recent removal of net neutrality and Kaufman's on board for that, but it looks like they're not going to get the votes in the house Second is a bill from Marsha Blackburn that is basically written by the ISP is to say Let's make it the law that you can't put those old rules back into place and then Kaufman's legislation Which would take those 2015 rules with some modifications and make them the law of the land So you don't have this constantly changing Set of rules based on who's in charge of the FCC So I think for somebody who's like alright That's a lot of details as a person who favors net neutrality Who do I side with here Tom? If you are against net neutrality You should favor Marsha Blackburn her rule will say no more yet. Just can't do it anymore We're gonna make it the law of the land that yet can't put net neutrality rules in place And that would give you stability if you are for net neutrality You probably want the overturning That passed in the senate but doesn't have the votes in the house because that would just revert things to the way they were Before agit pies FCC came into being And and put them back as they were in 2015 Then the one that I prefer is representative Kaufman's which says let's stop the ping-pong game And let's make some sensible net neutrality regulations in place Now there are people who argue that Kaufman's rules aren't exactly the same as the 2015 ones and they might Allow some internet interconnection shenanigans and a few other things, but it's the best of these three options according to what I think Let's move on to walmart versus amazon walmart We'll use microsoft's cloud technology for purchase and sales data sharing with vendors that two companies announced a five-year deal Today walmart plans to deploy microsoft's machine learning and artificial intelligence and other services to not only help employees But also cut costs as it invests in growing sales online walmart is is is investing aggressively Because it needs to better compete with amazon And satya nadella in a statement about the the five-year deal Pretty much said the same. Yeah, we got to compete with amazon This is the way that we're we're going to do it with the two companies working together Wonder twins activate walmart and microsoft. How about that? I wonder what other options they realistically had I guess maybe google Yeah, in fact, there was something in one of the articles I read about walmart being tied up with google But worried about some of their advertising practices and their data collection data privacy practices Oh, that's actually really interesting Because now that well in this vertical you have amazon obviously who is getting into retail So other retailers well, they might you know go to aws for their cloud Needs, but it I'm sure they would feel a little bit better if they had someone else for that and in that case clearly google is an option but Certain things come with that and microsoft is the alternative which it probably wouldn't have been if Satya nadella if we didn't get the satya mania So again, it seems like nadella had a clear vision of the future and it's coming to pass at least microsoft is in the game in that category and It's benefiting them and don't forget walmart owns flipkart in india now So they're they're up against amazon in india as well With an endemic flipkart is from india And so partnering with microsoft there helps them combat amazon again without having to bring google into that market Netflix subscribers reached a hundred and thirty million worldwide last quarter But that was one million fewer than expected netflix added 4.47 million subscribers internationally below the expected 4.97 millions and Added 670 000 subscribers in the u.s Below the 1.19 million expected Netflix said it had over forecasted quarterly fluctuations in the pace of new customers Netflix reported q2 revenue of 3.91 billion dollars up 40 percent year over year and earnings per share of 85 cents versus 15 cents in the year ago quarter Yeah, a lot of headlines are overblowing this you know just saying uh netflix is done. They're over uh, and and they're not Nobody said that There are no there are headlines who say that netflix is done. Yeah, I have read that headline over the past 24 hours So i'm that's why i'm saying don't believe that But they are growing slower than they expected And certainly growing slower over time. I think it's four quarters in a row now of slowing growth But they're still growing So it's just that they're they're hitting saturation a little faster because I think for consumers It's good news. We're getting more competition out of amazon and hulu It's odd that netflix would be overestimating Uh In succession quarter after quarter which read hasty and said, yeah, we've done this before this happened before It's you know, not the end of the world. Don't worry. Everything's fine Um, you would think especially because netflix has been such a darling of of you know This new kind of cord cutting life and and with a lot of original content and and a lot of subscriber growth Uh, nobody is accusing netflix of yeah going away or being done But you'd think that they'd almost just say Let's just undercut ourselves so that each quarter we come out ahead. But I know there's more to it than that I wonder if the recent price increases also have something to do with it because That it's not the super cheap Option that you get without even thinking about it and as people get 4k tv's the price is even higher than the hd Uh subscription so that might play into it as well And uh, regardless if they are reaching kind of a ceiling slowly Because I guess everyone who wants netflix already has it Either they're gonna have to produce different things Or start chasing, uh Countries and communities that are coming online now We mentioned india in the case of walmart earlier with flipkart I wouldn't be surprised if just like we've seen Chinese and korean shows invade the service, uh in the last couple of years We we would start seeing chinese and indian and other countries shows fairly soon Well, and netflix is launching some of their first big originals in india. Uh, that was part of their earnings So so you're you're right on target there They are they are targeting those markets where they have the highest potential of growth And you're also I think you're absolutely right about the price sensitivity. Netflix underestimates how sensitive their customers are at a price And every time they have a price increase it tends to impact the next earnings quarter And then they act surprised like oh, I didn't really expect subscriber growth to slow so much. So Um, I think there might be something to that I mean that said we talk about netflix like have we reached saturation? They added 4.47 million subscribers internationally. Yes, it's it's slowing in the us We're under a million in the last quarter, but the growth is still Quite high. It was internal forecast that they they missed. Uh, I don't I don't think we've gotten this Yeah, no, they missed they miss analyst expectations too. It wasn't just internal But it's it's high. It's high growth either way, right? So it's your point still stands uh sacred games is the company's first original indian series launched just over a week ago and According to netflix already has great success, but then you have to rely on netflix's word for that stuff But oh, I just saw it in the trending thing in netflix earlier today. Yeah All right, boomberg has an article about whim whim Which combines multiple transit options into a monthly subscription Sometimes known in the biz as mobility as a service 49 euros a month gets you unlimited bus travel short rental bike rides and discounts on taxi rides and rental cars But you don't have to switch around with a bunch of different apps. It's all done in one Part of what makes it possible is helsinki where it launched Makes mobility as a service part of its legislation strategy. They've been doing that since 2011 That helps kind of set the groundwork public transit operators offer apis They offer mobile tickets that makes it easier to combine them into an app Whim right now has 45 000 users. Some of them just use it because it's easy They don't actually pay for the monthly subscription They just know that all the transit passes will be in there about 5100 people do pay for that monthly subscription And they need 60 000 users in order to get the bulk discounts that would make them able to become profitable They're also operating in birmingham uk and antwerp belgium Now patrick, I know you haven't used whim, but you know helsinki Yeah, it's I mean it's a Medium-sized city. It's not small, but I can absolutely see how these kinds of services would be successful One of the people bloomberg talked to In the article was saying that they had a car and they got rid of it. Another one was considering getting rid of it You can't do that in every kind of city Helsinki is is relatively small in its center You can go everywhere walking anyway if you live close enough to the center. It's also very orderly Speed in the city center is often restricted to 30 kilometers per hour, which is I don't know two miles per hours Not that slow, but but yeah Speed into the city center. Yeah, exactly and they also have a lot of obviously transport Transportation services the bikes and the other things must be coming now They are legislating this fairly heavily uber was Forbidden I think until the beginning of the year or maybe it's going to come back next year But definitely the the thing that is attractive in all of this if your city infrastructure supports it and many do Get one app one, you know, I had never thought of this until now But the convenience factor is in is huge In paris we also have the bikes share the shared bikes although they seem to be going away We have cars etc etc And for each of those you need a different car the different app a different subscription I think that would push Subscription quite a bit if you only had one app Yeah, absolutely. I I agree. I I look at google maps kind of as a a manual version of this, right? At least in in a lot of the towns that I end up in They include uber and lyft In the google map directions options. So I can say, okay, I need to get here What's my transit option? What's my uber and lyft time and an estimated cost? What about walking? What about driving if it could say if I could say I need to get from here to there And it could say oh Well, if you want to get there fastest use this combination of transit options If you want to get there cheapest use this combination of transit options We have it all in there. So you don't have to worry about getting a pass or anything We'll just prop up the proper, you know QR code when you need it that sounds wonderful. Just having it all together like that Don't you agree? Absolutely. I was nodding in Total agreement I heard you. I heard you nodding Side note bmw combining its ride hailing and car share service into one in seattle right now too So this may be a trend that we'll see. I mean uber and lyft also getting bike services And adding them Into their options. You you're going to see more of this consolidation. I think this is a trend That's big. Yeah, and isn't it uh volts wagon who announced a few days ago that they were basically becoming a transportation company with scooters And and rental cars and everything. So, yeah, yes Speaking of scooter We have something to talk with sarah about to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com This is a problematic, uh A nickname of mine because we're not actually about to talk about scooters. No, that's true That's just what we decided to call me hannah kuzlowska actually wrote an article for quarts About air b&b grappling with how to treat people with criminal Convictions, uh, essentially sarah it with with a few examples, uh, including a person that that wrote an editorial in the usa today This article talks about how there are people who have been convicted maybe 16 years ago Serve their time and are reformed But they can't get an air b&b rental because they do background checks on people who apply to rent an air b&b Yeah, this particular person that was the subject of the quarts article, but You know, it's it's a larger subject overall had written an op-ed in usa today last month About being denied booking an air b&b. It was in washington dc He was there for It was a you know pro gun control rally of of sorts And he said it was because they ran a standard background check on him that flagged him Because he served 10 years in prison for a felony back in the day. He's now a free citizen Uh consider himself a social justice activist active in the community Abilitation for others etc. So it highlights an interesting conundrum for air b&b specifically certainly not the only company that's grappling with this but air b&b is Kind of an interesting use case because even though not everybody who air b&b is their place out anymore Truly lives in that place a little bit of a gray area That was what the whole premise of air b&b was is i'm going to go out of town for a week I'd like to make some money. I want someone to live in my house and use all my stuff and be in my kitchen and and and be in my space it's a very it's a it's a It's an intimate kind of a Relationship that you have with a stranger you want to make sure that you vet them properly air b&b has some rules So if a person is on a sex offender registry They're banned if you have a conviction for murder rape terrorism child molestation Results in a permanent ban on the platform as well However, less serious crimes such as This is how air b&b defines them felony burglary felony larceny Results in a band of 14 years from the date that you were convicted So if you were convicted a long time ago, it's been 14 years since then should not necessarily be an issue Lesser offenses yet fraud property damage get you banned for seven years from the date of conviction And then there are minor offenses such as marijuana possession Some people might consider that a big offense air b&b says that Disorderly conduct air b&b is not going to ban users However, a host can refuse a booking if they don't feel right about it And I think that air b&b Is smart to let a host do that because again, this is somebody that's in your space. This is your home You don't want somebody, you know Doing anything that's going to make you uncomfortable And the problem with that is there is a Credit check that is run So even if air b&b itself doesn't throw you out for offenses that it says you can't be involved in this platform anymore The host can then be like Still don't feel right about this don't want them here But you said credit check do you mean background check, right? Yeah, exactly Yeah, but but part of that is tied to credit because a lot of that information is is But I think it's the background check that's particularly interesting because yeah, if somebody's credit check fails like I don't know if they'll pay then maybe that's that's a different than like Oh, they're they're fine otherwise, but they were convicted for something a long time ago Maybe I don't want them staying is is prejudice. Exactly. Now, there's a there's there's a there's an interesting question here Yeah, is air b&b right to air on the side of caution about this One might say well, yeah, I mean you just you just don't want somebody, you know Hurting your property in any way or or making you unsafe because there is a transaction sharing economy quality to all of this air b&b is also not alone in how they have to deal with these things um This actual year uber introduced at annual background checks on its drivers But back in 2016 just a couple of years ago the company relaxed rules on hiring drivers who had minor convictions Which is something that air b&b is trying to deal with as well these companies do want to grow And it doesn't always make sense to just say oh anybody who's ever had an issue in the past Shouldn't be part of the platform because that would potentially Negate growth right task rabbit same thing uses a case-by-case approach Conducting criminal background checks for what it says is it's $60,000 60,000 rather vetted workers and says if her previous criminal conviction is flagged as part of those Checks a member of our team will perform an individualized assessment of each instance. So that's task rabbit saying well Okay, so if somebody gets flagged Let's look into it a little bit more rather than throwing somebody out because again A lot of task rabbits are you know people who are looking to make a little bit extra money on the side And it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what might have happened a decade or two ago I guess my question to all of you is Well, how do we feel about this because I think that for And this is a sort of a hot button issue to me because I I I really do care about rehabilitation and I you know, I believe in in uh in a lot of the Organizations that are involved with people who are currently incarcerated or formerly incarcerated who have a lot to contribute to society and And you know have changed and you know That's a whole other conversation that I don't want to get too far into right now, but Does air b&b have to just say well better safe than sorry Oh, it's it's really super difficult because the thing is everyone feels Right and to an extent everyone is right in the in that context air b&b is doing what they should be doing I think as you very well put a host Is having someone into their personal space so you want to be better safe than sorry But in those each individual case you feel like well Better safe than sorry, but then you have to look at the Aggregate and the overall situation that this creates On a societal level And and maybe that's my european, you know, socialistic tendencies that creep back up But it is true. You have to look at what it does to the common space that you share and Someone that has been incarcerated supposedly has paid their debt to society and sure it's never going to be a perfect Situation after that because they will always carry that if on top of their status They also can't you know go to air b&b's or work for ubers or work for task rabbit It starts becoming an additional unreasonable weight So I think there is something that I wouldn't say Let's start legislating on all of this right now But I think it needs to be looked at and in those situations sometimes The solution is to get a disinterested party or as disinterested as possible to weigh in and that can often be the government But I mean the point is this should is a situation that should be looked at carefully because it can have consequences I think the only thing I want to add to our conversation because you guys made all the good all the points basically is We wanted to feel safe And so we pushed that responsibility out on things like background checks. That's not the only way But it was like, hey, wait a minute. How do I know this person is safe? I You you can't just let anybody drive an uber rented air b&b background checks were an easy answer Turns out not a very good predictor for who's actually a risk Uh, and and that's the problem here is that actually the people who have served time There's a lot of studies about this are less likely to commit other crimes just because they've aged out of it It's it's people in their their teens and twenties that generally cause most of the crime doesn't mean they won't But it's not a good predictor of it. And so it has these unforeseen consequences like this I'll I'll add one thing Um, if we can get background checks on the hosts Uh, can I go to the place of the person that's been convicted for pot possession? That would be a pretty good indicator I'm just, you know, get might get some perks in that apartment. You never know illegal perks except in certain states Interesting interesting tactic Patrick You might have some legs Uh, yeah, it's it's listen. It's uh, it this is a this is a very complex topic But I think it's you know, it's where it's worth bringing up The idea that somebody might not be hired for a job because of a past infraction whatever it may be That's one thing But you have a variety of services that again contribute to the overall economy in globally That's you know, it it opens up the topic that much more Yeah, and the easy answers to fake news harassment back, you know, is not always the best answer Yeah, exactly. Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit You you you you you you submit topics like this All sorts of topics and more and we love you for it submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show Dot reddit.com. We are also on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show What's in the mailbag these days, sarah? Oh, glad you asked John had some feedback on our insta paper going independent story yesterday And boy, did we get a lot of feedback. In fact, real quick I want to thank Dominic, Jeff, Chris, Mark, Randy, Alex, Steve, Yaro, Ian, Matt And anybody else I missed because we got a lot of feedback. So thanks for the email But we'll go with johns. He says I try to keep up with the number of different blogs and online news sources But I scan the feed at different times than when I actually want to read articles So if I go through my feed lead or other stories to see if something I'd like to read more closely later on is there I'll send it to pocket pocket was an insta paper competitive that we talked about yesterday as well And since some of those articles can be pretty large I usually wait until i'm on wi-fi to download my pocket cue to my phone to save mobile data I also use pocket to curate things I'd like to remember and then read again such as news stories How to's interviews and the like Yeah, there are definitely a few of you out there. Thanks for writing in Thanks to everybody for writing in and also thanks to patrick beijer for being with us this fine Tuesday or Tuesday night where you are patrick What's going on in Helsinki besides probably needing some air conditioning? Yeah, that would be nice. Um, well, I just recorded an episode of the phileas club With our good friend brian brushwood That episode so the phileas club for those who don't know It's a show where we get different people from different countries different backgrounds to talk about the news and that is What we usually do but on some special episodes we cover one topic and on that one We covered the libertarianism that was a fascinating one-hour conversation And if you are curious about that school of thought you might want to listen and you might Realize that some of the things that you thought you would completely disagree with you actually Might think are good ideas. So there you go. Go check it out. It's on just Go to frenchspin.com and you'll find it there excellent Prime brushwood is a magician though. So maybe he pulled a trick on you Uh-huh I don't know apparently I've been used as an example in this episode. 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I'm sorry Yes, yes, I've heard of edibles roger. Tell us more. Oh, no already done destroyed. Oh, no Rogers having a bad enough day All right, well, I'm having a hot enough day. So I'm going to retire To my bed. Oh, please. I thought you were going to retire from podcasting. I was very worried there Just be back next week. Yeah Oh, oh, no. Yes. Let's do that. I'll retire And that's going to be super exciting and like make the headlines and then I'll I'll unretire Yeah, that's like when john oliver did that and I was said to everybody Hey, that show's over and then it was like, no, it was just a joke Next tuesday, we have no idea who our our co-host will be because patrick reyes retired. I guess we'll have to find somebody All right, well It was nice working with you all You've had a great career patrick. I've had a great career. Thank you so much for the support The listeners were wonderful. I'd like to thank my parents My wife and my newborn son for their Also support We're really going to miss you buddy. Yeah It's been a great run Okay, that sounds a little bit too morbid now. I'm unretiring. I'll do it. I'll do it. Cancel Be replaced but we'll try All right, all right We'll see how you're come back to her Yeah, jay-z did it you can't Uh, what do we got to call this show there air b&b on the side of caution Like air on the side of caution. Okay. That's good. I got it. Uh, there's also putting the hell in Helsinki Yeah Was that in the show, okay Yeah, okay. Oh no, that was at the top because there's much Yeah, all right Um ping pong neutrality All right, I'm I'm I do like the air b&b on the side of caution I'm I'm cool with that one. Yeah, I can go with that Maybe they can come up with the Delancey Street of air b&b Well, you know I don't know what the What the workforce would be do we explain what Delancey Street is for people? Yeah, yeah Is a non-profit organization in st base in san francisco that try uh that assists Uh former convicts back to the mainstream job market Uh in a couple of ways one they run a restaurant Called Delancey Street Cafe, which is really good really good and they was a wait staff, you know kitchen staff But they also have movers and they move like, you know, like a moving company your style As well as running Delancey Street Christmas trees where during, you know, right the run up to Christmas They sell Christmas trees from these lots That they put up around the city And all that money goes back into the program and they're very strict Like they're very much of once you're part of this program you got to buy by the rules if you don't you're out So it's um, it's also i've not used the moving company. Although tom has But i've definitely dined at Delancey Street cafe many a times it's right down on the you know near the bay bridge down on the water. It's it's it's lovely and um It is a well respected organization Not just because you know, everybody's, you know, minding their peace and cues, but it yeah, as you mentioned roger It's you know, it's it's a tight ship and um, I think I don't know. I've never heard any dissenting opinion But in in general anybody who's familiar with the organization is like that's really cool Yeah, you know, I think it does help dispel some of the myths around people who do carry um You know a conviction for stuff I mean, you know a lot of these convictions aren't even these are for relatively petty things or petty crimes if you actually Sometimes sometimes and and that's something we didn't we didn't really get into but you know the sex offenders registry Uh sometimes in some states includes public urination Which is you know, it's technically expo indecent exposure Which which means you know Some of you are probably fine Renting to a 40 year old person who once urinated in public and got caught when they were 18, right? But are you okay with renting to someone who's background check comes back as being on the sex offenders? Right. Yeah. That could be the same person. You don't know I mean people pee outside my house all the time I don't like it. I don't want to look at it, but I'm not defending public urination We're not but at the same time. It's like A lot of us have been there. We'll just leave it a thought I had a classmate who's who had a family member Basically charged with intent to sell because they had a joint in their pocket. Mm-hmm. Like it was essentially Well, yeah back in the 90s. That was a very common like the the the crackdown was pretty strict I think people forget now that we have legalization Uh happening in a lot of places That was really harsh and so you know, there's a lot of people You know that that have these some would say like You know, oh overbearing judgments Made on their transgression speaking of marijuana legalization and I really should know more about this But I I know that yes in california. It's legal, but federally. It's not and you know, there's there are lots of um On-demand marijuana services that people partake in I was under the impression that you needed a medical marijuana license Which is not necessarily hard to get you get it for pain or stress or a variety of things But uh, some folks I was talking to over the weekend said the company ease Is just marijuana delivery for anybody as long as you're over 18 and I said well, that's the new law The new law that just went into effect in california. Really? Yeah, you don't need a you can smoke recreationally Well, I knew that but I thought that you just needed A lot you needed Well, if you did that it wouldn't be recreational. It would be medical marijuana Medical is what it used to be up until the new law went into it. I'm just behind Wow, this is way easier than I thought it was You should look up you should look me john It's new. I mean, I know but I guess I just I still you know, I'm of the mind that's like There's so many people who are still like oh Pot is scary and you know, it's a drug Like you'd never be able to just do it This is my defense of pedantry is for the longest time You know, we had the medical marijuana rules in california and people said well, it's basically legal You just have to get medical and so basically legal became marijuana is legal in in california And then when it actually became legal I think it became confusing because like I thought it already was legal You just need the medical thing and you still need the medical thing Like no it actually finally became legal for real. Yeah, it's yeah, I mean I I I'm I was I honestly was sort of like over the weekend. I was like, yeah, okay. That's there's no way. That's true But it is apparently and I just because you know the proposition passed Yeah, well, which I knew but somehow I thought it was like, oh, it just means dispensaries or like, you know Yeah, we already have that. Yeah, exactly Hey, you know what I wanted to mention since we're doing our little good day internet post show and we get so many emails now about Good day internet topics that don't necessarily belong in dTNS But we get so many of them that you know, I'd like to start highlighting a few Especially for folks that are um for that are, you know, watching and listening day after day gardener von holt Says hey scoots. That's me Tom and great expectations. Is that Roger? That's me. Okay. That's Roger In the post show you were talking about unique names This was yesterday's post show and the idea that maybe in the future That you know, someone named sarah lane, you can't legally name her that you're gonna have to name her sarah lane One two three four five or you know, whatever it is so that we can actually have unique identifiers and people don't get Mistaken for each other He says pretty sure even without my middle name, which is adams I'm the only person with my name in the entire world gardener von holt Pretty much and the exception that makes the rule. I can't think of any friend. I have that could say the same thing I don't know man. I think there's probably another one Gardener von holt with his middle name There are adams, but are there other other with his middle name? I just feel like there's there's gotta be another one and whoever that is needs to come forward You guys should have you know The lunch at delancey street cafe, or I don't know You know a documentary about all the gardener von holt I mean, I guess gardener is somewhat unusual von holt is not But gardener adams rarer than other names. Yeah. Yeah Anyway something that you want if anyone knows another gardener von holt, please come forward Will the real gardener von holt, please stand up And three of them do That's me wherever two or three gardener von holts are gathered Called a von holt-ing But yeah, so I'll I'll try to um, you know, we we don't have uh Unlimited time, but I'll try to highlight a few more at the mailbag gdi specific Um feedbacks or questions or comments Because we're getting so many more of them, which is great. And I don't want you guys to think that they're going unnoticed Yeah, and uh, don't forget what I mentioned on yesterday's show If you're someone who likes to see the youtube video portion of this some of good day internet shows up on the video Uh, you you can you can get a homemade spliced together Frankenstein of goodness thanks to creative asked arts Who who puts these together just of his own goodwill and posts it in the comments for each episode on patreon That's all him. He just did it. So thank him if you use that Thank you. Thank you And now toto And now toto. Oh, so um We also On yesterday's show um in our post show. I was like, well, I mean, yes I love toto and I talk about toto all the time and it's become a little bit of like a wink wink So I love toto all that much, but really who knows any song besides africa and rosanna, which are wonderful songs and we got a Email that I had stirred 99 You did an option. But then we got an email Ah, yes. Yes. We got an email from mike who said what about love isn't always on time And my first reaction was that's not toto mike. It's called hold the line hold hold the line, right exactly. Um, And I I googled it and I was like, oh, I love that song Didn't even realize it was toto. I honestly didn't so thank you for keeping me honest Now I know that I love three songs and it makes my love for toto that much greater and rest of you It's it's just not something that I think of as like a Oh, yeah, I know that song Hold the line Just stop we'll get a takedown That's too good too close to the reel. All right. Yeah, I know it's hard to believe toto wasn't in my studio Wait, wait, wait, hold on Uh, hey speaking of hold on hold the line video folks. We'll be back tomorrow with more video audio folks stick around Bye video folks see you tomorrow