 This is St. Tech, Hawaii. Community matters here. I'm Marcia Joyner, and this is Cannabis Chronicles, a 10,000-year odyssey. So tell me, of that plant of many resources which wander far and wide, the ancient plant of food, fuel, fiber, which was cultivated for millennia. As we venture through the past 10,000 years, we will explore and discover the plant from which cannabis derives, the many uses of the plant, hemp, cannabis, ashes, cannabis in religion, cannabis in medicine, cannabis in dear old Uncle Sam. And so our odyssey begins. Today, our odyssey is not long ago and far away. It is right here in front of us. And now that we've gotten rid of the Jefferson Beauregard sessions, the third things might lighten up. So today, we are going to visit with people that we have had a long time ago, but they're back. And that is Theo and James of Camel. Good morning. Hello. Hello. First tell us what does Camel mean? Camel stands for Complementary and Alternative Medicine of Oahu. Complementary and Alternative Medicine of Oahu. So what does that mean? So we're a veteran service organization. You're veterans, both of you. Yes, both veterans. Go for a veteran. And Iraq veteran. Yes, yes. So this alternative is today this is hemp, right? Yes, of course. CBD, yes. CBD. And that's what you're... So tell me about CBD and how it comes from the hemp plant. Okay. So of course we know that the USDA program has picked up across the nation pilot programs for the United States to start producing our own hemp versus importing it, like that had been happening in the past, thanks to the 2018 farm bill, which hopefully will be approved in the next few months. But our medicine is derived from the natural botanical species called hemp or cannabis or kind of BCA, if you want to look at it in scientific terms. It's extracted, pretty much processed and bottled to come to you in your neighborhood, whether it's at your physician's office, clinician, sorry, at the clinic or at the retail storefront. So it's a really good medicine that works for a variety of chronic disease symptoms and diseases. But yeah, I mean, we're here to bring this to you, to the family of Hawaii. Okay, so with... But your focus is on veterans. Yes, yes. All right. So we don't turn people away, but our focus is on veterans. A large amount of our community actually, the homeless, physically disabled and mentally disabled, have been benefiting from CBD, whether it's wounds, anti-anxiety, the depression. The CBD's been helping a lot. Even the skin, the topicals even. Many different uses just for the CBD's. So it's very excited. We've been advocating for many, many years. It's about a decade or more. Yeah. Been on it. Even while I was active in the military, been advocating. So it's... So you mentioned being active duty. So if you use this, you don't get a dirty P test. Depending on what they test for, if they're testing for CBD levels, because they do two separate tests, and there's a TAC test. So if they're testing for CBD levels, it may elevate your CBD levels. So find out. Any advice to active duty, please find out. I would hate for anyone to get any punitive litigation. But basically, if you're not testing... Testing. Normal testing. Right. Let's say for driver's license or something. No, no, no. Absolutely. You don't get a dirty P test. No. No. Okay. No driving under the influence. No high. There's no ultimate status from the CBD. No. You don't get any high. No. No. But even with cannabis. Yeah. It's not a long-lasting high. No, it's not a high. Can you see any way right now? Yeah. People don't... Mainly don't drive with... TAC because they just go on to sleep. They don't... Exactly. They're not gonna go driving. Yeah. So tell me, how did you get started in this? Well, a while back, I guess it was around 2013, 2014, we started to notice that no one's really covering the fact that 22 veterans a day were committing suicide. The fact that over 30 overdoses a day accidental for opioid overdose was not really being talked about within the veteran community. Some media coverage for it, but it was a one-to-three-minute segment, and then it goes away. What we wanted to do is dedicate our opportunity to continue to serve duty in the American public, especially with veterans, to at least provide the private consultation, also appointment with physicians so they can get an understanding of what and how they can enter into the process coming about cannabinoid medicines and understanding what does it do for your body and what are the benefits for that. And so it's been a long journey to understand the legal ramifications of it. So some of the dangers of it. There are some things that are called psychosis. This is why we choose to stick with CBD medicines, TAC-free, solvent-free medicines. So we can provide our clientele with the safest way to try this. What do you mean, solvent-free? So when some people go to make the products, most people, like the home people, the patients, they use different types of solvents to extract the CBD from the plant itself. Okay, so I don't understand. A solvent is something that... So something like alcohol, grain alcohol. You can extract, you can put the flour into the alcohol and leave it for maybe a week, depending on how long you want the strength of the medicine to be. This is just home remedy, so don't quote me on my formulas. But in order for you to get the medicinal value from the flour of the plant, you have to provide some type of extraction technique. Oh, oh, I see, I get it, yeah. Okay, I'm just trying to think of... A lot of the other... Here on Island, we test. Everything tests seed to sell. But other out-of-state dispensaries don't always test, but they put things on market and not in turn, you don't know what you're getting. So solvent list is what we go for. So we test their all products that are tested. No solvents in any of these products. So now you are mainly interested in... Oh, everybody, anybody, but veterans. Uncle Sam writes prescriptions for opiates like that. I was under those soldiers having medications. So you understand? Absolutely. When I got out to military, I was on about nine different medications, though. Different injuries, though. There was just like neck injury, shoulders, PTSD, TBI from vehicle roll-over accidents. That's blown up a couple of times. He reminds about this story, but he was severely injured. Blown up, huh? It's one of those things where... You were in the Army? Act of duty, nine years. Good Lord. I loved it. I love helping people, and that's why I'm still active with that medicine. You were a medic in them? Yes, ma'am. You were a medic in the Army? Right, I was stationed here at School Food, actually. I used to teach combat lifesaver at HAC Discom. When I got out to military, I wanted to continue on with the helping community. And I noticed here on Island, there's a large community of disabled veterans, homeless veterans. And when I started working with them, I noticed a lot of them have mental illness, physical ailments, and they're not getting treatment because they may be other than honorable or dishonorable discharge. That doesn't mean we don't help them. And we don't know what the reasoning for those discharges are. What difference does it make? That's the point. Exactly that. At the end of the day, we're all veterans, and we're all on the same team. You're all veterans, I mean. Absolutely. What difference does it make, whether you... Exactly that. We're all brothers and sisters, so why not help each other? Yeah. When people... Well, I've probably told you this before. Since 1774, the United States has only been out of war 14 years. Wow. 14, not 14 together, 14 over the time. And yet we don't take care of the veterans. We ask young, healthy people to go to war, to die, but we don't take care of the veterans. And that's one thing we're... We really...that is so sad. That's one of the key reasons why we started our organization, Camo. Also, and you know, with the VA, they're struggling with budget concerns. They're struggling with political decisions and lack of decision-making. The understanding of how cannabinoid medicine compares to opioid medicine. So we're trying to help them understand there's medical terminology with this. There's testing already with this. There's research ongoing. We need to get them to the table. And to their credit, they have been looking at some programs. Dr. Sue Sisley, who is one of the leading researchers for cannabis or PTSD studies and how cannabis affects the veterans as far as their health outcome. She's been a very, very... A vocal advocate. You know, a vocal advocate and a leader of what we've been doing along with Yasmeen Herd and some other people, Ed Rosenthal, Martin Lee, some of the people we've worked with in the past, who bring this to the forefront. And now we got to the point where now the outcomes are being recorded by medical community, both veteran side and both civilian side. So we're trying to bring that program to a point where the civilian doctor and the veteran doctor will communicate with the patient record so that the veteran gets a better outcome and also be able to participate in their health care. Yeah. And let me tell you, this is a little off the track, but it's something I discovered with the VA. My husband is a disabled veteran. Yes. 30 years in the war. Yes. Mr. Kenan, yes. And he has PTSD along with the effects of Agent Orange. Yes. So we go through this process for PTSD, and there was a woman psychologist, psychiatrist. I don't know what... Yes. But she's the one we went to. And listening to the questions and listening to this, it occurred to me that she had no idea what a submariner goes through. She was good with ground troops. She got that one. The Marines and the Army had no idea what the Navy... Right. Coast Guard too, they leave. Yes. They had no idea. Now, he was on the submarine all those years. And they are taught to listen because everything has a different sound and everything has a different meaning. When it's quiet, you're in trouble. You are. Edit to the bottom of the ocean. Yes. To this day. Now, he retired before you were born, 1974. To this day, he can't handle silence. Hmm. I understand. You cannot... Yeah. Can't handle... And every submariner, a submariner I've met, they cannot handle the sound of silence. Right. That does not come up in the discussion with the PTSD because it looks different in the Navy, in the Coast Guard than it does in the Marines and the Army. Absolutely right. That's a very good point that you point out. Yeah. So... And so this is why advocacy groups, various service organizations who can understand, to create, you know what I mean, a forum for the veteran to come and discuss things like that, to help better assess the veteran. So that's the importance of us being in the industry and people like us being in the industry to reach out and help the veterans because a lot of people are stigmatized by medical care, whether that's on the VA side or whether that's on the civilian side of things because with the veteran, we can seek services at the VA, but also through the Veterans Choice Program, we can seek services through the civilian protocol of clinician choice. Well, that's a good thing that you can reach out, especially in a state like Hawaii where you don't have all of the facilities on each island. Yes. And then the proper consultation. When people choose to use cannabinoid medicines over whatever else they may be described or in combination with, it's really important that they understand the process to do a proper assessment, understand the legalities of THC compared to CBD when it comes to livelihood, keeping your job and not positive positive on a test that may limit your job or alleviate your job. So that's some of the things we're working through. People like Willis Barrow, Senator Mike Gabbard, Senator Brian Schatz here in the islands have been really vocal and forefront to the forefront as far as arguing for those issues for the veterans. Also, Tulsi Gabbard, these people are doing an amazing job bringing these issues to bear. And so now it's time for the veterans to step up and we have a model of veterans helping veterans to, you know, all these other veterans separate organizations that are in existence. We need to coalesce and be one voice at this point in time. Well, we need to take a break and we'll be back in 60 seconds. And then we're going to talk about all of this. We'll do. Okay? All right. All right, we'll be right back. This is Think Tech Hawaii, raising public awareness. I just walked by and I said, what's happening, guys? They told me they were making music. Welcome to Sister Power. I'm your host, Sharon Thomas Yarbrough, where we motivate, educate and power and inspire all women. We are live here every other Thursday at 4 p.m. and we welcome you to join us here at Sister Power. Aloha and thank you. Aloha. I'm Marcia. And this is Cannabis Chronicles and we're back. And we are talking to two very handsome young men. Doesn't know ladies heart today. Well, come on, when you get to be my age, it's kind of nice. So we're talking about, well, it's not cannabis. It's hemp-derived THC-free products. Yes. And they are CBDs. And so these two gentlemen are really working with the veterans. They are veterans working with and for veterans. Yes. Always. And with all of this. So tell us what we have. Okay, so these products are from a company called American Wholesale Hemp. It's an Oklahoma-based company, along with Empower Genetics and Pirate Cannaceuticals. CanTech Labs produces most of these formulas, which is an ISO 17.025 laboratory, which means that everything we produce out of there is regulated to a certain standard to let you know there's no microbials in it. There's no pesticides, no herbicides. There's no solvents. It's all organic and things like that. So I wanted to focus on the new formula we just brought out. It's called Active Duty RX. This is formulated specifically for people who have PTSD issues. It's going to reduce your anxiety. It's going to boost your libido, give you energy throughout the day. It has several different organic compounds in it to help with that. Let me see this. Yes. And so because we are a veteran centric organization. So it looks, yeah, the label. Yes. And not just for veterans in the military. First responders, active military, as far as police officers. DoD everyone. DoD. DoD firefighters, you know. So, you know, PTSD, but what about people with dementia early stages Alzheimer's? Yes. But does this help? I know you can't prescribe. But does it help at all? We've been seeing some evidence as far as research that it does reduce what they call the brain fog that comes with dementia as far as the forgetfulness. Right. It's very active in the neurology of the body. So it helps to repair the nerve endings from the CB1 to CB2 receptors. So it will help. We don't know if it's going to alleviate dementia. No. But it will help. Yes. Does it slow down the process? It'll reduce the symptoms. Along with music therapy programs like that, we have been able to combine the two to provide treatment for people who are in an elderly or in a deceased. What about just students, for instance, who are studying? Does this help? Yes. You're a student. Right. Does it help study to focus? It actually does. And I say I prefer it actually over some of my other meds because with TAC a lot of time, though it does help with more of the calming sometimes, it also takes sometimes a focus. Right. And TAC can take your thoughts. That's easier to focus on. So it would help if you're studying or working crazy hours. About a half hour before you start studying, rather than maybe a TAC product. Yes. Typical edibles. Is it? It's what? Edible, you said? It's a capsule. Oh, it's a capsule. Well, we do have edibles now that you spoke about that. Where are the edibles? Right over here. So we have some lovely macaroons made from one of the bakeries local here in the Ahana Hali marketplace. MacBaby made these for us. So they're infused with our 1,000 milligram pure cantaloupe cannabis oil. So it's maybe about 20 milligrams of CBD in these, which is very good. They're delicious. We're going to leave some of this along with your crew. We have over 70 different products from the CanTech Labs that we display from cannabis oil, from lingua oils to topicals. We have pet products, vape oils. We have our CBD water here, which is one of the things we're going to bring to the island. CBD water. Yes. It's 10 milligrams of CBD in that. For people who are into sport and athletic field, wellness is helping with muscle recovery, muscle soreness, energy, all types of things. So you're going to start to see the gamut of products pushing to the industry, and we are going to start to see a lot of products that are very, very high quality products. Wow. That's a lot of products. Yes, it is. And we still have products coming out maybe every other month. So that's our endocell. That's another maintenance formula. So it has, I believe, 300 milligrams of CBD in this one. And most of these help with certain things, but with this one, it's a very good formula for weight control and things like, yes, yes. People drink in protein drinks like that, but cannabis is the number one source of natural plant protein in nature. So 300 milligrams of that, and your workout is beautiful. You also have chocolates made by Modelly Chocolate there in Kailua. So each one of these are 15 milligrams, as you can see on the camera. Very delicious chocolates. And we're going to have a sample party when we, when we close the cameras off, we're going to have some fun here. But definitely, but yeah, we have a plethora of different things coming out. So we're going to have a little bit of a talk about the hemp program, the hemp pilot program. Now you went to the hemp conference last weekend. There are some parties. So tell us about the hemp conference. So the hemp conference was very good. It shot us to Vespucci. It shot us to the farmers union of Hawaii for putting that great conference on. They had plenty of vendors there talking about how people can get into the hemp program and what the wonderful things that hemp is going to produce from textile to tree-free papers, to bio-few, to food source, for wellness. I mean, so many different things that's gonna happen with this program. 50,000 in county. What they know. Yes, yes, and NASA just sent hemp into space to go to hemp there, so. So, and the one thing I think of hemp, and we've talked about this before, is that if we grow it here, we can have an industry. Oh, yes. So that our kids get to stay here. Right. So they can. So we're gonna bring at least 23 strains of hemp out here. But what I'm getting at is that from school they learn to be engineers and scientists and all the things that they can do with hemp. Yes, yes. So that we can have an industry where people stay home. Yes, it's a broad industry perspective and just about anybody, you don't have to have any particular skill set. You can develop that when you discover what you wanna do within the industry from being a cultivator to a processor or even sales agents are learning to do it. And to learn all of the different things that can be done. Right. And especially places where they want to stay home, but there's no industry. Right, right. Yes. And we're proud to bring this thing to market because there's so many different chronic disease symptoms and diagnoses that goes unmanaged. There's a clinical side of it, but then there's the side of it that people can do in their home. They can, you can help yourself by having these products through a regimented intake. So, let's see what else do you have here? So what is gold? So that is our 1000 milligram formula. It has CBG, which is cannabagyrol and also CBD, cannabidiol mixed in there. CBG acts on the cannabidiol to formulate a more potent, more medicinal process. It has a more medicinal effect on the body. So this is our own private line. We're probably one of the first to formulate, specifically for condition and things like that, using CBG and CBD. Gold, all right. Yes. And we have the gold. We have the silver and the emerald. The emerald is our 2500 milligram, which is our strongest formula. We can formulate stronger, but for that one, it's good for conditions that are our diagnosis. Now, how do you use it? It's a sub-level job. So that's what you put under your tongue? Yes, yes. You would simply drop it under your tongue, let it sit for maybe 20 seconds before you swallow, and you get the relief that you're looking for, for that sciatica, low back pain, things like that. It will dull that pain and relieve it. Low back? Well, I don't have. Also, glucose levels. It helps to balance glucose for diabetics. You know what I mean? Anybody can Google CBD and whatever condition you're suffering from or whatever symptom that you have, and you can read for yourself, the research that's out there, and also the information that's kind of helped you understand and be a more informed patient. And how they can help you with your healthcare outcome. So you are going to grow hemp? Yes, we would like to seek a hemp license here within the state of Hawaii to be able to produce, cultivate, and also put products to the market. So we have over 23 to 35 different land-raised strains and also USDA certified strains that we're going to be bringing to the market. Some of the people at the hemp conference are looking for different genetics. So we want to be able to bring qualified genetics here. Like I said, USDA certified for people to plant, to grow, and cultivate and process, and even to export when the law from the hemp bill passes, we'll be able to do many different things. It should pass this year. You have a different... I'm wearing my knees out praying, but you know. You've got different people in the conference. Yes, people are in place now, so we should get it through. Different younger people, veterans, you got a lot of veterans that won the election. And the key thing, the workforce development with the veterans, we have the higher force mentality in the programs, but a lot of veterans are 100% disabled and they're sitting at home, not necessarily bored, but want to be involved in something like this. So with horticulture therapy, this can quickly become something that can get veterans into a field of study and also a field of profitability through farming and other techniques. And it's fabulous. Well, I am thrilled with all of improved focus, maintain clarity. I guess all folks could do that. Hey, I'm both too, you know what I'm saying? I guess all folks could do that. It covers the gamuts of people who are suffering from different ailments. But even if you're not suffering, what would it do? Give you energy, increase your libido, just give you overall positive attitude. Now this is for animals. For animals, yes. Okay. So how do you do this? Just put it under their tongue? Yes, most animals are very perceptive to different plant-based medicines. If you've ever seen a dog go out and eat grass, that's what they're trying to do, is get a certain mineral or nutrient in their diet that will help that. That's attractive, what not. But good for hip dysplasia, dogs who have separation anxiety. You know, you can quickly alleviate a lot of things that pets that you'll notice in your, all pets have different personalities. Right. From dogs who bark a lot to dogs who maybe are displaying pain symptoms. I've got a neighbor dog group. Yeah, you have something for you. That barks. We've got something for you. Yeah, we've got something for you. Now, what is this? So this is a vaporizer. These are C-cell vaporizers. This one here is called the palm. Personally, I like the palm because of the size. It actually comes out pretty well, and it's not too heavy. So I have my own, I use it. I'm okay? Very discreet way to use your medication, yeah. Oh, so that's a battery? This is a battery. Yes. Oh. It's really nice though. It comes with a piece that screws on. So most cartridges that come with the C-cell are universal. And this piece here, you screw it on. It's a cap for the magnet piece that holds it together, and that's it. And your medication. That's it. And if you need to turn it off, there's no power button. No power button. So if you need it off, you just simply remove the cartridge, take it wherever you go. And it does it a lot of smoke, like you see in the car. People with all this stuff. Right, nah. That's medicine. It's not recreation. Yeah, it's minimal smoke, all vapor, so it's not actual smoke. So what does it do to your lungs? It's gonna dilate your bronchial tubes. That's some of the effects research have shown for people who have asthma, it's taking a place of a butyrol, or accommodation. I actually have a butyrol, one too. Yes. You do? I do have it over, I'd go grab it. No, no, that's okay. We are just about out of time, but this is exciting. There's just so much to see and do. Even massage oil, all right? Yes, we have the massage oil. Where's the massage oil? The parotid. This thing? Yes, ma'am. Oh, my. So that's 100 milligrams of CBD in that. We've been approaching a lot of the spas with that, so a lot of people are requesting that. I grow peppermint in my yard. Yes, yes, yes, yes. This is your coffee, yeah. I'll send you some. I'll send you some, yeah. Definitely. Well, we are just about out of time, but this is a real pleasure spending this time with you as always, and you will come back. Yes, yes. Before you leave, I need you to look, which camera? This one. Four? This one, right here. Okay, I need you to look into that camera, and we want you to wish everybody a happy holiday. Definitely, happy holiday. So anyway, you wanna say it, anything you want. From Camel. Camel, Aloha from Hawaii. Aloha, Mainland family. Have a safe holiday. Shout-outs to everybody that's helped Camel get to where we are. Medicate safely and know how I drive. Yes, you can drive and not get high, so yeah. And if you wanna volunteer or help out with Camel, please feel free to contact us, 808camel at gmail.com. You don't have to have some ridiculous no-priced, you just stop by. Plenty of events coming up soon, so we'd love to have you out with us. And also catch us at the Ohana Holly Marketplace, 333 Ward Avenue. We're there with Island Naturals, and also with Mac Baby. Shout-outs to Jay over at Island Zion. And I'll see you guys. Happy holiday. Thank you, Pink Tech. Aloha, and happy holiday.