 فشرف بالشتغالي بالعلم ولا تبغي به ما عشت يا دا دا دا لا وياله من شراف عظيمي الحمد لله رب العالمين له الحمد الحسن والثناء الجميل وشد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له يقول الحق وهو يهد السبيل وشد أن سيدنا ونبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وأصحابه والتابعين لهم بإحسان إلى يوم الدين أما بعد إن شاء الله وتعالى as we promised last lesson we're going to be taking بإذن الله الكريم نماديج أمثلة من سير آئمة السنة في عدم تكفير البعض المعينين لتخل في شروط التكفير في حقهم we're going to take examples of some of the leading scholars in Islam that they didn't place takfir on particular individuals because the conditions were not there because we've taken what the conditions are some of these conditions they could not find it on a particular individual so they didn't place takfir on them the first example the first example is موقف الإمامي أحمد بن حنبل the position that إمامي أحمد رحمه الله he took from the خلافاء from the leaders الذين كانوا يقولون بخلق القرآن those who were saying that the Quran is created and they were three leaders they were three leaders من خلافاء العباسيين the Abbasid dynasty there were three of them who were saying this the first one is المأمون and the second one is المؤتصم and the last one which is الواتق these three they got affected by بمدهب المعتزلة they got affected by the methodology of the معتزلة and they took this false methodology and this false belief and they called the people these leaders they called the people to this belief and they tested them on it so it wasn't just it wasn't just you had to believe it but you were getting tested they were coming to you they were asking you what's your position regarding the Quran and anyone who did not respond by referring to the Quran as created he would be imprisoned he would be lashed and some of them would be killed or some of them got killed يعني مأمو أحمد رحمه الله he was from those أئمة he was from those علماء who ثابت على قولي أهل السنة he kept steadfast on the statement of the علماء on the statement of أهل السنة والجماعة يعني مأمو أحمد he stuck to the view of أهل السنة والجماعة which is that أن القرآن كلام الله that the Quran is the speech of Allah ليس بمخلوق and it is not created and because of that ألماء محمد رحمه الله تعرض بسبب ذلك because of that he went through her يمدود إبتلاع عظيم great calamity in the Muhammad and he received from that statement of his which is that the Quran is the speech of Allah and it's not created he received from that جلد he got lashed and he got imprisoned for a very long time until ألماء محمد كاد أن يموت بسبب ذلك he was about to die from that ألماء محمد was about to die from the lashing and from the beating and from the he was about to die from it واشتوه هراء in this period of time it got known as it got referred to as المحنة the scholars they refer to this period as the محنة if you want to see more in details regarding what happened and how and the details of it then you can go to the Kitab حلية الأولياء وطبقات الأصفية طبقات الأصبهاني رحمه الله ninth volume page 193 to 206 or you can go to Kitab نهاية ونهاية بأبو كثير fourth volume page 393 to 405 or you can go to سيرا علامي نبالات بأمام الدهبي you can go to the eleventh volume eleventh volume page 238 to 265 you'll find so much details and so much explanation and discussion regarding what had taken place وانمام محمد رحمه الله he was steadfast at this period of time this time which تعلمة refer to as وقت الفتنة ومحنة وانمام محمد رحمه الله he did not place تكفير on the خلفاء on the leaders on this statement which they said that the Quran is what the Quran is مخلوخ وانمام محمد didn't do and they didn't just believe it no وإكره الناس على ذلك they were forcing the people onto it وانمام محمد رحمه الله is from the scholars who transmitted consents that anyone who says that the Quran is created is a kafir and there is a consents on this issue you can find it in the كتاب الرجع على الجهمية بأمام الدهبي رحمه الله إن شاء الله سبحانه وتعالى السنة والجماعة بأبو قاسم أن لا لكائي أن أصم جميع الفتاة بأشيخه الإسلام إبنو تيميا أن النونية of إبنو القيم رحمه الله علماء are by consents and they are in agreement that what that saying the Quran is مخلوق that the Quran is created بإجماع عمة السنة it is kafir but Ahmed رحمه الله he didn't do تكفير of these people these leaders why لتأولهم because they had one of the conditions one of the conditions were missing for تكفير which is that they shouldn't have interpretation لتخلف الشروط التكفير في حقهم one of the conditions of تكفير was missing interpretation was present they had an interpretation of all of that و لأنهم لبس عليهم لبس عليهم أهل البداع that the innovators the innovators are the ones who brought these interpretation to them and they mixed the matter up for them so the truth didn't become clear to the leaders رادة الإمام أحمد رحمه الله he forgave those who did what they did to him and he made dua for them الإمام أحمد said كل ما ذكرني في حلن ففي حلن الإمام أحمد said everybody who mentioned me is what في حلن is free إن شاء الله تعالى he won't be held accountable for anything إلا مبتدعا لكسة الإنبيتة إلا مبتدعا لكسة الإنبيتة و قد جعلت أبا إسحاق and I have made أبو إسحاق أبو إسحاق يا إزهور المعتصم and I have made أبو إسحاق من دليدة المعتصم في حلن I am freed as well و رأيت الله يقول I had Allah say رأيسوا الله say و ليعفوا و ليصفحوا ألا تحبوا لأي يغفر الله لأقول forgive and forget do you not love for Allah to forgive you و أمر النبي الله commanding the Prophet ﷺ و أمر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم the Prophet commanded sorry أبا بكرم the Prophet commanded أبو بكر to what بالعفري في قصة مصطحي in the story pertaining to مصطح because مصطح was from those people who were the tell-bearers who carried on the news pertaining to عائشة okay and this is مصطح was under the who مصطح was under the wing of who أبو بكر أبو بكر was taking care أبو بكر was taking care of who مصطح أبو بكر was taking care of what مصطح so the Prophet said to أبو بكر forgive مصطح even though he was a tell-bearer of what happened forgive him and carry on giving him the provision that you would give him أبو عبد الله so all of this ابن كثير is bringing the beginning and the end he said powerful statement he said he said وما ينفعوك what would it benefit you ويعدب الله when Allah punishes أخاك يا مسلم أخاك يا المسلم الله punishes your Muslim برده في سبيلك because of you what would it benefit you what would you gain from it that if Allah punishes a Muslim person because of you what would you benefit from it personally there's nothing البداية والهيبن كثير brings in the 14th volume page 404 up to 405 إمام الدهبي brings in the seer عنامي نوبلاء 11th volume page 261 so what do you see from this the fact that إمام محمد said ما ينفعوك أيو عبد الله أخاك المسلم أخاك المسلم who's referring to أخاك المسلم المعتصم شاهدت المعتصم what would it benefit you for Allah to punish your Muslim brother for you are you there so this is a clear indication this is the dhalil which is واضح that إمام محمد رحمه الله لم يكفره he didn't do تكفير on them أيو with me مع ما أظهروه من القفر even that they broke our clique أقفر they came with things which were clique وما فعلوه من الضل and the oppression and the wrongdoings that they came with he did not do تكفير on them he did not do تكفير on them مجمع الفتاة if you look at the 23rd volume page 348 to 349 شيخ الإسلامي بلوتيمي says ومع هذا even then فالذين كانوا من ولاة الأمور يقولون بالجهمية إن القرآن مخلوق وإن الله لا يرى في الآخرة he said even though these leaders who are saying the statement of the جهمية that the Quran is created and that Allah will not be seen the day of judgment وغير ذلك can other than that ويدعون الناس and they call the people إلى ذلك تلعماتا ويمتحنونهم and they test the people on that ويعقبونهم and they punish them based on that إذن يجيبونهم when they don't obey them in it ويكفرون من لن يجيبهم and they even place تكفير on those who don't obey them حتى إنهم كانوا إلى أمسك الأسيرة to the extent that if they grabbed a captive لم يطلقون they will not let him go حتى يقر بقول الجهمية until he said the statement of the jahmiah which is إن القرآن مخلوق وغير ذلك can other than that ولا يولون متولين ولا يعطون رسقة they do not take allegiance to the one who they should take allegiance as and they do not give provision from the bayt al-mal the muslim treasury they don't take money and they don't give it to these people إلا لمن يقول except the person who says that the Quran is created ومع هذا even then فالإمام محمد رحمه الله ترحب عليهم وستغفر لهم and he asked Allah's forgiveness for them لعلمه because he knew بأنهم لم يبيل لهم he knows that إمام محمد knew that it wasn't clarified to them أنهم مكذبون للرسول and these individuals who have told them this are disbelievers of the messenger ولا جاحدون لما جاء به and that they are stubborn hard headed individuals pertaining to that which a prophet came with ولكن تأولوا فأخطأوا رادة إمام محمد believed that these leaders interpretation was put in front of them so they took that interpretation and they got it wrong وقلدوا and they blind followed blind followed من قال لهم ذلك those who said that statement to them they didn't believe it بأن إمام محمد رحمه الله he can see one of the conditions that he needs to be absent is there in front of him there's a condition which is أدم تأويل السائق the person can't have a what an understandable interpretation which is there the second example is موقف الشيخ الإسلام ابلوتيمية من مخالفه ابلوتيمية in regards to his opponents ابلوتيمية فرحمه الله as example in this matter as well he did not do takfir on from people who came with clicker cover because it was clear to إمام ابلوتيمية رحمه الله that these individuals the proof hasn't been established on them look what he said الشيخ الإسلام ابلوتيمية he said هذا مع أني دائما ابلوتيمية and this even that though I always ومن جالسني يعلم ذلك مني and anyone who sits with me knows this of me أني من أعظم الناس نهي عن أن ينسب معين إلى تكفيل وتفسيق ومعصية that I am from the greatest people who prohibit أو تكفيل to be stipulated to a particular individual أو even تفسيق that is a faser أو even to say he's a wrong doer I am the fatherest and I am one of the greatest people who know to prevent people from that to me إلا إلا علم أنه قد قامت عليه الحجة الرسالية except if it's known that the message has been established on this person and the proof has been brought to them التي من خالفها that proof whoever opposes it كان كافيرا تاراتا sometimes he might become a catholic for leaving it وفاسقا أخرى and sometimes he may even become a faser you see وعاصيا أخرى and sometimes he may be even a sinner وإني أقرر I am here establishing أن الله قد غفر لهذه الأمة خطائها إبن تيمي said so look some people are in a position what they are going against may lead them to what or it may lead them to what معصية وفسق are you with me so the proof needs to be established شيخ رسم إبن تيمي he says and I also establish أن الله قد غفر لهذه الأمة خطائها الله قد غفر لهذه الأمة for its mistakes وذلك يعموا these mistakes encompass في المسائل الخبارية القولية والمسائل العملية الله قد غفر سبحانه وتعالى matters which are خبارية قولية عقيدا related mistakes and Allah also forgives matters which are related or we all together فكيف سبحانه وتعالى ربنا لا تؤخذنا إن سينة أو أخباءنا أن الحديث سعيم مصر which says فعلت I have done that it encompasses everything whether it be عقيدا related matter or whether it be a fix related matter الله forgives سبحانه وتعالى ويقول إبن تيمي says that he says in another place رحمه الله ولي هذا كان ولي هذا كنت أقول للجهمية من الحلولية والنفات إبن تيمي says من الحلولية like those who believe that Allah سبحانه وتعالى He now is inside His creation ونفات and the ones who are negated الذين نفع أن الله تعالى فوق العرش those who have negated that Allah is above His throne لما وقعت محنتهم when the calamity came and the problem again أنا أن لو فقتكم كنت كافرة when the calamity came إبن تيمي إبن تيمي he is tired when the calamity happened that they were prison in Him and He said to them in one of the debates إبن تيمي said to them in one of the debates أنا لو فقتكم if I agree with you today or what you guys believe كنت كافرة I am a disbeliever أنا إبن تيمي will be a kafir لأني أعلم أن قولكم كفر because I know your statement is kufr وانتم عندي لا تكفروا but you guys to me are not going to you guys are not going to become kafir لأنكم جوهل because you are ignorant are you with me you guys are ignorant وكان هذا خطابا لعلمائهم وقضائهم وقضاتهم وشيوخهم إبن تيمي said this was an addressing to their what their scholars he is talking to who their scholars he is talking to their judges and their mashayikh وأمرائهم أنا ليدز وأصل جهلهم يعني تأصل of their doubt was what شبوهات عقلية but was in front of them were rational doubts doubts that came from logic and thinking like that حصلت لرؤوسهم في قصور من معرفة المنقول الصحيح والمعقول الصحيح صريح الموافق له so that is the time of what أصول الشيخ الإسلام إبن تيمي said إنه يكتاب شرح العقيد يكتب شرح العقيد الأصفحانية شيخ الإسلام إبن تيمي said ثم الفلاسفة والباطنية هم كفار كفرون ضاهم عند المسلمين he said the philosophy of the philosophers and the باطنية they are كفار and the كفر is created the Muslims then the إبن تيمي but لا يعرفوا كفرهم their كفر is not known من لم يعرف حقيقة قولهم their كفر is not known is not known unless you know the reality of this statement and what it really implies and what it really means وقد يقول and it could sometimes happen قد تشبت ببعض أقوالهم it could happen that some people may hold on to their statements the philosophers in the باطنية statements some people may hold on to their statements من لم يعرف أنه كفر who do not know it's كفر فيقول and they become معضورة اللي جهله they then become excuse for the ignorance he said this in his شرح العقيدة للصفحانية page 211 so شيخ الإسلام إبن has a lot of examples like that رحمه الله تعالى و now going to give the third example of شيخ الإسلام إبن تيمي شيخ الإسلام محمد من عبد الوهاب here we find محمد عبد الوهاب distinguishing between what بين الحكم المطرق والحكم الوعيلي رحمه الله تعالى شيخ الإسلام محمد من عبد الوهاب what does he say وإذا كنا لانوا كفروا إبن تيمي محمد عبد الوهاب we don't do takfir on من عبد الصلامة the one who worships an idol من عبد الصلامة الذي على قبة عبد القادر who worships the shrine عبد القادر والجلاني وصلامة الذي على قبري أحمد البدوي and also the idol which is on the grave of أحمد البدوي وامتاليه ما and the likes of these لأجلي جهلي because of the ignorance وعدم من ينبه هم and because they have no one to bring it to their attention فكيف أنوا كفروا ومن لم يشيخ بالله how can then we become those who do takfir on people who haven't even done shirk إذا إذا لم يهاجر إلينا ولم يكفر ولم يقاتل and how can we do takfir on somebody because they haven't migrated to us or they haven't they haven't made takfir and they haven't fought with us سبحانكه هذا أبوه تعالى العظيم محمد عبد الوهاب يكفي بعمل صحيح and this is great accusation يكفي بعمل صحيح كيف يجيبه ومن يشيخ وتفسيل المساعدة ولم تردوا س Savage ومن يشيخ ومن يشيخ ومن يفكوا ومن يكفي ومن يشيخ ومن يجيبوا ومن يكفي ومن يكفي ومن يكفي ومن يكفي ومن يكفي ومن يكفي إذا كانت تكلمة أنه إذا كانت تفضل إلى شرق أكبر فأنا أعرف أنه لا يؤذر إذا كانت تفضل إلى شرق أكبر لا يستطيع التسكول وقد تتبعه في مجموعة مؤلفات الشغم محمد الرسائل الشخصية ثلاثة فيوليم 33 وكذلك إذا كنت تريد ثلاثة فيوليم 58 عبدالوهام محمد عبدالوهام يقول ما ذو كير عليكم هذا الذي يكلم لكم عني رغادي أني أكفر بالعلومي أني فقط لا يستطيع أن أكفر من الناس أني أكفر من الناس أني أكفر من الناس فهذا من بهتان العداء هذه are the false accusations of the enemies وذلك قولوا أني أقولوا and this is their statement which is that I say من تبع دين الله ورسوله وهو الساكن في بلده أنه ما يقفي حتى يجيع عندي one of their lies against me is that anyone who follows the religion of Islam who follows the religion of the Prophet ﷺ and he lives in his own land that if he doesn't come to me and if he doesn't reside with me that he is a kafir they made this against me فهذا أيضا من المهتان that's also from their false forged allegations against us إنما المراد التباع دين الله ورسوله what I intend by my statement is that الله is religion and the process of religion is followed في أي أرض إن كانت it can be wherever in the world at once ولكن نكفر من أقرب دين الله but we make takfir on the person who affirms the religion of Allah and the messenger ثم عاداه but he shows enmity towards it وصد الناس عنه and then he blocks the people from the religion of Allah he becomes an obstacle from the people entering the religion وكذلك من عبد الأوثان and we also make takfir on the world who worship idols بعدما عرفه أنه دين للمشركين after he comes to know that this is the religion of the pagans وزينة للناسي and a beautification وزينه للناسي and he beautifies it for the people فهذا الذي أكفره this is the one I place takfir on وكل عالم على وجه الأرض يكفروا هؤلاء and any scholar on the face of this earth will also do takfir of those people إلا غجلا except a man معالدا who is stubborn and hard headed or ignorant or who is ignorant he was also أسرحبه الله from the questions that were put to him he said when he was asked about مسائل في التكفير he said إني أكفروا البوسيري بقوله I place takfir on Bousiri for his statement يا أكرم الخلق بوسيري برده فجوابي فيها my response to that statement is the ones who have said I make takfir on Bousiri for his statement يا أكرم الخلق my response to this is سبحانكه هذا أبوثان العظيم exalted Allah this is a what it's a forged allegation against me أي ده is the statement we don't deny that but do we make takfir on Bousiri we don't make takfir on him so these are statements which are مبثوثون في كتبه if you look at sheikh of islam محمل عبدالله you find all of that scattered in his works رحمه الله that Imam محمل عبدالله that he doesn't do takfir unless the conditions of takfir are present even though he might make takfir on this مسألة على what in what form he might say كفر المطلق when it comes to تعيل شخص which is معينة a particular individual if the short is not there to him he will not make takfir on them