 Okay, I think we're, we are all here. Right. Okay, cool. So I am going to call the meeting to order general business and appearances. Would anybody like to make a comment? Yes, Jack. Just a reminder, since people are appearing electronically. We all need to identify him or herself. Thank you so much for that reminder, Jack. I appreciate that. I'm going to call on. Counselors wanted time. Donna. Oh, you are muted. Right. Jennifer. Jennifer Morton here. Kerry Brown. Erie Brown district three. Jack McCullough. Jack McCullough district two. Present. Casey. I want to see present. Lauren Hurrell. Lauren Hurrell present. Okay, great. All right. Thank you for that. And all right. Any general. Business any comments folks would like to make, by the way, Bill or Jack, is there anyone present. In person there. Okay. No. Okay. And anyone wish to make a comment. Oh, Donna, go ahead. I just want to brag. DPW have done great. They've been at my condos at seven a.m. with a water leak. And it's been great. They put me in touch with a private vendor. Perfect customer service. Great. Thank you. Anyone else. Okay. It's on your consent agenda, but just the adjustment in the fixed portion of the water rate. Just we do acknowledge that we calculated that wrong. And when I put that slight reduction on to get it correct. Great. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. And. Okay. So on to, oh, yes, Jack, go ahead. Okay. Oh, but you need to review the agenda first. I suppose we do. It's not listed, but, uh, any adjustments to the agenda folks would like to make. They not seeing any, we will consider the agenda approved. And so we're on to the consent agenda. And Jack, you've made a motion. To move to approve the consent agenda. And is there a second. Yep. There's a motion and a second further discussion. Please say aye. Aye. And opposed. Okay. So the consent agenda passes. And, uh, Allegations. Of open meeting law violation. Um, this is something that we had. Did receive some advice on from our. Lawyer. Um, and. So actually Bill, do you want to address anything about this? And I know Jack has done some work on this. So I'll pray. But. You know, if you go through, we got a lot of correspondence, but there's really only two parts to the allegation. One is that our two minute rule. Is a violation of the open meeting law that it doesn't consistent. And the second is that an illegal meeting was held. Unwarned outside of city hall during the regular. Um, meeting and that it was held with chief Pete. So those are the two specific allegations that we need to respond to in a timely fashion. And I think our attorney, um, provided us some guidance about how to respond. And I haven't. I think Jack has a draft of something. Um, Jack, do you want to go ahead? Sure. Are we going to talk about it legal advice and executive session or in full session? Um, I. I think Jack's agenda. I mean, thank Jack. Well, I haven't seen what he has to say. So I'm assuming that he's going to propose a resolution that reflects the legal advice. I mean, it's pretty straightforward conclusion in my mind, but you might want to hear what he proposes. Um, I think that's a good question. If you want to discuss it in executive session or open session, certainly that's your prerogative. Is that okay? Let's maybe hear from Jack. I just think sometimes when you're trying to contemplate what direction to go, that's part of your executive session. That's all, but if the group doesn't want it, fine. Well, yeah, let's at least start with the Jack's. Uh, resolution and then we'll go from there. Yeah, I wasn't planning on discussing the legal advice, but I think that's important. And I think what I would like to say is that as I. Stated during council reports. At our meeting Wednesday night, it's clear to me that the open meetings law while it's intended to. Make sure that the meetings of public bodies are open and people have their own rules of conduct. So we're going to express their opinion. As long as order is maintained. Public comment shall be subject subject to reasonable rules established by the chair. Our rules of conduct at. City council meetings were established at a. Put a duly warned meeting of the city council. And we followed the procedure set forth in the. We followed the procedure set forth in the city council. We followed the procedure set forth in the city council. Including giving the complainant. Ample warning that he was in violation of the rules. And. Steps contemplated by our rules, including. Up to including. Removing him from the meeting. Would. If. He did not get for his conduct to the rules. Can I just. I just wanted to comment on all of that. It's going to be clear the allegation. Was simply that the two minute rule in and of itself. Doesn't. Meet the open meeting law. So it's great that we can go over. Everything else that happened, but that isn't part of the complaint that we're responding to. Just so we're all clear. Okay. Good. Good point. I think that's great. I think that. We didn't do. Anything wrong, but. Specifically, I would. I move that we. Find that. Our two minute limit. Does not violate the open meetings law. Second. Hey, any further discussion on that? Okay. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And I have. Any further discussion. Okay. Hang on one second. And anybody opposed. Okay. Just want to make sure. Okay. Thank you. That passes. Go ahead, Jack. And I also move that we find that. No. Public meeting outside of. Access to the public was, was conducted. Pursuant to his. Second ground for complaint. I'll second. Further discussion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. And opposed. Okay. Great. Thank you. So that. That passes and. That, that is everything. So with that, we will adjourn the meeting. Five 10. Thank you, everybody. And we'll see you in the. Next week or so.