 Hanna Smith. Eric Hilbertson. Steven Everett. Benjamin Cheney. Anybody who's not been here before, we are advisory to the development review board. We will listen to the applications and move them forward to the administrative approval for the next developing motion to approve the agenda. First application, 15 Berry Street. Eric Hulbertson. Eric Hulbertson. I recuse myself from the next. Eric Hilbertson. Go ahead and close the documents. No significant changes other than from last time we spoke except for the ramp which this is all the old stuff. So basically I've been working with mostly mostly Chris Lombra in an effort to get this ramp on this building. And so major basically coming from the left of the stairs running out to the road. Yeah, it would be below the windows as I should have drawn those windows in. That's a great point, Seth. But it will run basically in this photograph from those stairs. It would run from here out to Berry Street. It's going to use the existing well we're going to tune up the existing stairs but everything existing stays. Yeah, if you look at it in plan from somewhere in one of these drawings you can see it's kind of got a little little jog in it. You can come up the ramp and it kind of wiggles to the right and then left onto the platform. Trying to keep the ramp as tight to the building as possible but that project out to get on to that sort of landing that those stairs come up requires a little wiggle. Uncovered ramp. Chris seems fine with this. I guess there will still be three spaces kind of right in front of that. One of those could be designated as a handicapped spot. Nobody's brought that up but I don't see why that couldn't be created. Does the existing this overhang all that stays exactly the same. Bush goes. That vent moves a little bit. I'm not entirely certain what it is. Yeah, it's got to move. Yeah. So clearly it's concrete up to up to here and then it's likely just a pressure treated wooden deck. Concrete from there's like a nine feet of concrete that comes from the sidewalk using the sidewalk as a sort of a level place from which to take off on the wheelchair and then it comes up nine ten feet creates the sort of foundation for the ramp to take off from and then the ramp will pitch up and likely be supported mid span with one helical anchor. Correct. Chris, these drawings yeah. These all went through Chris and this is what he seemed to. Well this is a good question. It does actually. But close enough. We went. Yeah. Yeah. In an effort to sort of say okay. We're doing our absolute best to make this work and there's no other place to go. Yes. The concrete should be a a section that shows that. I guess the best we're going to see it is maybe in this. It pitches up. It's level as it comes off from the sidewalk. Pitches up for five six feet in this level. Yeah. You can see it there. Yeah. And then so is that it's less than 30 feet from level to level. Just barely. To be able to to meet that requirement. That. So far there's no proposal for that. I mean there is existing a whole bunch of like Christmas lights that run around there that they use. They seem fine with that. But if they get into it I guess we would come back and ask for more if they felt like they wanted more. But at the moment nobody's requested more exterior lighting. Yeah. That's a good thought. Yeah. Yeah. So we're below at this point it's less than 30 inches from ground. So the idea was just less stuff. So that we needed the barrier or the four inch barrier to get us down below 30 inches. Does that make sense? There is a toe kick on here to prevent the wheelchair from slipping off. Yes. But it was not seemingly not required to have. You could still pass there. As far as the child falling on the cliff. There's been zero discussion about that. Not nobody has mentioned any concern about that. Yeah. I think we'll probably have to do something like that. They don't intend to get in there very often or ever. But I think it would be foolish not to make it possible. When and when. That bulkhead is buried. This photograph I took three weeks ago. Maybe even two weeks ago. Yeah. Where there are there are some lights there. Yeah. I assume they're there and lit up. I bet they're there for the parking lot. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Although I was curious about what you were talking about. They will lose at least. I think they'll lose one. That's why you know that I tried to keep the ramp over the green there except for that little jog there. And in that jog space was a place where one part would go. So I think they I mean it's awkward parking there anyhow. People do park there. But it is awkward. The ramp is not going to make it radically more awkward. Yeah. They probably will. I mean you know part of like in doing this will be tuning up that whole front stair. So if they're looking really at Yeah. Yeah. Don't know. I have no so I mean I'm not able to speak very much for the for buddies. If I haven't had basically any communication with the buddies people there sort of excited for this project but are waiting to see that it could actually happen before they're really getting too far ahead. So I can't as far as how the restaurant is going to interact with any of this. I don't have any. This is a project that may not even happen this year. It's more of a just sort of like what's the feasibility and can we do this. Right. That's been. Yeah. Yeah. We'd have to dive into that and see what's going on there. They elect to put up an on him but I think it's nice to say hey if you want to do this. It seems inevitable. I will say it is nice that Tom McCartle has made an effort to allow to help with the city sidewalk which is far from compliance to be put in the wheelchair ramp and some little bit of flexibility on the one and a quarter inch per foot make an effort to get old building that was never designed to have a ramp and reservation reconstruction of the refrigerator style projects. Do I get this one? That was my understanding. My brother is out of town. I'm Richard Powell. He left me a couple of notes that I'll read for the committee. May I proceed? Go ahead. Paintboarder fence. Karen meaning Karen Blossom's fence along the driveway is painted on her side but not mine. It is according to my brother a motley mess which I took care of which I look out of my kitchen window chosen a very dull greenish gray that lets the fence disappear to the degree that it will and lets me focus on the pretty hill behind it. Karen has given me permission. There are two photos and two paintouts of the color and package that I submitted. Should I hold on that topic before I proceed to the next? Two install stove pipe to the near first floor wall. I'm installing a wood stove in my rear northwest first floor room. I have gotten bids from two local companies including my package. The one that best describes what they will use and do. It will basically be designed to code. The package includes a plan to show the location and two annotated photos. I believe it is. I don't know as well as you may know my brother's historic preservation has worked on a lot of old buildings including the Mount Vernon Treasury building. He won't mess it up sir. Right here. Thank you very much. Is that it? Appreciate it. Thank you. And if you're trying to get to sleep some night and can't bother on the history channel's history of paint. That's the application for 8 Lincoln Street in the Brewer and Bobby Rome site. Well, so do you have the documents? Are they all sent? So it's an oval sign and it's going to be flat and with the colors on it of the logo. It's going to be lighted from both sides with two little light fixtures which are there attached to the bracket. I mean I'm not here to talk about that but yeah, but I think other signs on the street are lighted so I didn't see any problem with that. My neighbor across the street has lights on her sign. Oh, thank you. There's a typo on the sign. We caught that and we fixed it so Adventurous isn't spelled correctly but we did catch that and we will fix that. It won't be spelled that way on the sign. Yes. The graphic designer was horrified when we caught that. Um I don't have a photograph but it's right next to the doorway so the doorway is here and it's right on the I don't think I have a photograph but let me check my photos because I might actually I do have a couple photos of the building straight on which I can find one. There was for the shoe horn. The shoe horn had a sign there so we're taking down the existing bracket because it's a little short. That sign was a circle and ours is going to be an oval and it also didn't have lights on it so here's a better picture of where it is and there's another picture if you slide this way. I'm sorry so there's the sign right there and then there's another picture of the sign. I mean we proposed just to put the sign where the other bracket is unless there's a reason not to put it there. The square base Yeah we haven't ordered that yet so we can Yeah I understand what you're saying Yeah Yes I agree. I didn't look at that and I don't think the designer to be there but we can go back to the drawing board on the bracket. It's still there. Yeah Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Yeah Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Mm-hmm No, he was going to order, well, I mean, the sign maker is someone local, but he was going to order the bracket. So we haven't ordered the bracket yet. Yeah. You're right. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. I will do that. For sure. Congratulations on opening the store. Thank you. The sign in the street comes alive. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. It's been really fun. It's been, this is week three. Everybody that comes in is just happy that we're reopened. LED, I believe, yeah, but I'll double check that as well. I do have the sign, the light specs on my phone, so let me just check here. LED. Good. There's specs on the lights here. Okay. Okay. I agree with that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Although it's going to look like that, but if we're going to change the bracket, you know, because that bracket won't work, I'll have to probably come back, right? No. With the new bracket. No? Okay. As long as it looks similar to the brackets there now, that should be fine. Okay. What I think is nice about this bracket that might not work as well with the brackets there is that this is a tube which will contain the wires inside the tube. Yes. Right. For the lighting. Whereas the other bracket that's existing there is solid, so you don't have the ability to run the wires through the tube. Right. So, I'm sure. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the main piece holding up the sign on the existing is a piece of solid, probably three-eighths by two. And so what's nice is this one allows the wires to be inside the two-thousand square tube. Yeah. Yeah. That I think is even a thin, just a thin piece of metal. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's not even a tube. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's a solid. This piece is the tube. Right. That holds the wire. Where is that bracket? It can fabricate the bracket. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All I guess I was saying is in considering your, I like the bracket choice here. You're going to put a wiring on it because it contains the wires in the last minute. So you can continue with your bracket search that will work for this situation. That's a nice direction. A little cleaner. Yes. We're considering how to support your lights. That's good. Fishing one in. Yeah. It looks, yeah. I think from the picture. Let me just see if we can tell. I don't know. I'd have to find out. It does only here, but it's a drawing. So it doesn't really show what that is that connects. I will have to check if you bracket ring, wire ring. Yeah. Oh, that's the wiring through the middle. That's a bracket ring. Yeah. So I think. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Because it looks like that. It's going to be able to swing. If your lights can't further out, it's going to be part of the sign. It's going to blow us hard enough that it's going to swing a sign like that. So if the lights are out, towards the end, you've got to put it down. Sign this. They do provide a top view of that sign bracket view. Side view of lighted. So the lights are pretty. Looks like the lights are pretty far away. I'm sure they fell out for that. Yeah. For another requirement, it shows the two. Yes. Right. Right. This side view shows that too. Yes. On the top of the page. Reservation. This is a professional sign. Should I do it as well? Okay. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. I was considering what it would mean to make like basically like a rule and an old reward kind of thing, but I spoke with John a little bit about it, that could live in his awesome little meeting with Montailler Museum, who would have like photographs of like historical buildings in Montailler and those sort of things that have changed and why like design review is important in how it's sort of felt. The other sort of proposal is that if we can generate something like this that would live in the museum, we can roll it out and it could be in here for meetings or when anybody comes to the meeting where they sort of see the light. Yeah. Exactly. That's a really good discussion about getting public information out there in the examples. I mean one of the best things that's involved, certainly you would appreciate this. Yes, he and I have been discussing this. I will be otherwise engaged, but I did have a brief conversation with Jamie Duncan about it. Yeah. Does anybody from the audience have anything they want to ask or offer? Okay.