 So we have a big picture out of parade that we have. Oh. Say, I think I found out how many people read that, and we had a recent shipwreck. And they covered the hands of the other shipwreck almost every one of them said they'd read this story. This is Mr. Warren. Mr. President of Detroit. Oh, you're good. You look as good or better than your pictures. It's a pleasure to meet you, Mr. President. Thank you very much. Mr. President, how did you do? Fine. Real nice to meet you. Thank you very much. Mr. President, I'm so happy to see you. You say a builder of thousands of homes and it gives you more than a day of fishing? Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Alright. Thank you. Mr. President, Mr. Barry Zorthiam is a great company, a great company here at Washington. I'll break the camera with Mr. President. Mr. President, let me have a seat and everybody sit down. Excuse me. Do you? Vice President South County is not using it. A few comments about these gentlemen. I just wanted to tell you that I've been using the Deco Blue Pencil. You left the fuel around in the office that I've been able to use successfully. First, as you probably heard, we've gotten ourselves out of that terrible financial mess I found. And I will solicit all your help because I am sick and tired of doing without it. Every president has tried to get it at the national level. They'll never control the budget at this level unless the president has my night in veto. The law is ruling and then they tie that thing to the bill that you can't veto. This is automatically a high veto. The governor knows 943 such items in the eight years that I was governor without one of them being overwritten. And as you know, I brought it up in the Republican Governors Conference in Chicago a few weeks ago. And then once the national governors get together again in February here, I think I'll bring it up again and try to get the national conference on record too. I think they have been in the past, but this will... I guess about 40 out of them have it in the United States. So we want to kind of keep doing a weekend on that story to give you a little more of a hand at that. There's a very interesting little psychology in that. In our own state, I don't know if I'm saying the budget over the two thirds of the budget. But when you veto something, I line out in veto. If the same two thirds votes to override your veto, they will be written. But as I said, never once, when they have to face that particular item all by itself, do they ever have a nerve to vote on it? If they can hide it in something, they do it. We're going to keep working on that. We thought maybe at the start of this session with you that everybody would go around, everybody would quickly indicate who they are and the organization they represent. So you have a little idea of the breadth of the group. And then if I may face it, I will summarize what's happened prior to your being here and then let you and the group have a discussion. I know the breadth of the group because I've read all your names and your abbreviations here. But I can't put the faces with the name. Do you want to start in? I'm Virgil Becking with the Supreme Mayor of the Knights of Columbus. Mr. President, I'm Pete Gallagher, Executive Director of the New York State Federation of Catholic School of Parents. I'm Herb Titus with the Christian Broadcasting Network. Marilyn Mundy, President of Citizens for Educational Freedom. Lendi Fiori, Superintendent of Catholic Schools in the Archdiocese of Washington. I'm Dick Damon, I'm Legislative Director of the Moral Majority. I'm Brother Jack Myers, the President of the National Catholic Educational Association. I made a question for the Governor of Indiana and for the Accelerator of Christian Education, and I appreciate your government. And it's good to see you again. We were governors together a number of years. I'm Paul Irak of Coalition for Catholic. I'm Kirby DeCote, Louisiana Federation of Citizens for Educational Freedom. Greg Butler, National Pro-Family Coalition. Frank Monahan, US Catholic Conference, and I'm also sitting here for Bob Smith, Executive Director of the Council for American Catholic Education. All the wrong answers from the United States Catholic Conference. Bill Billings, the National Christian Action Coalition. Mr. President, I'm Bob Dugan with the National Association of Evangelicals. Don Howard with the Accelerator of Christian Education. We're going to be there. Good to see you. Anathan Mbunski with the Buddhist Israel of America. I'm Dennis College, with the Jesuit Secondary Education Association. Glad to have you all here. I know the last time we met was in many of us in the meeting of this kind. It was September 16th and two months later to the day. We had a vote in the Senate, which was a disappointing vote. But at least in one way represented an accomplishment of us for the first time. We had an up-and-down vote and we know where the bodies are. If I could just take a few minutes and then I'd like to hear your own suggestions and hear from you. We do not accept that vote as the final word on tuition tax credits. We're determined to keep after this. I think we must be careful and not perceptively just to get a vote to go again and risk another defeat. I think we ought to take some action to see if the next one won't be successful. And on that score, I wonder if, while it is necessary to lobby the Congress, I wonder if it isn't also necessary for a very stepped up campaign at the grassroots level. I have often said don't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. And I think that we have a case out there. I don't know whether you're aware of this, but as far back as 1945, Polo was taken by the American people and 57% of them believed in tuition tax credits. Now the most recent poll today is 67%. Now support this idea. Here in Washington, you're up against one of the most powerful and sophisticated lobbying machines, the National Education Association. And very frankly, I don't mind saying my own view on them. It is that it's not just tuition tax credits they're against. I think that their goal has been for a number of years. The elimination of schools like yours and the elimination of the local system. They want a national school system. And I don't think it'd be right that little Willie's mother would have to go to Congress instead of going to the principal of the local school. But the, I think we've got to work at the federal level but also with the Supreme Court decision on that Minnesota ruling. I think this is a time also to step up the action at the state level. And if we get the number of states that are already moving on that, that has a powerful effect at the federal level. But we're going to try and we're going to keep working on this. And could I suggest, you probably already thought of these and are using them, but could I suggest two things or two ideas that I think we should be selling to the people of this country. One, I believe the Americans are basically fair. And I think again, we should emphasize the fact that we're talking about people who are paying double. They're not utilizing the one school system they're paying for. And they're not complaining about that. They are financing another school system. But on top of that, appealing to people's pocket books, the idea that the NEA has succeeded in planting an idea among the people and certainly here in Congress that some way this would represent taking money from the public school system. Well, it wouldn't. But the idea that could defeat that, looking something with something, is that if the people have called their attention, that if your schools close because of financial hardship, this is going to dump an additional burden on the local schools. But it is not going to increase the number of people who are financing that schools with their taxes, because they're already financing the schools with those taxes. And this is one that I think we should hit the people with very hard that what would be the situation in public education if suddenly thousands and thousands of students were turned over to that system and with no additional revenues to support them. And with that, I'll turn to you for ideas and suggestions. Mr. President, in Louisiana, for the sound to get a little less. I just wanted to say something and then I'm not going to take any more questions or anything. I've got to get aboard and go to Indianapolis. But I just wanted to say something about this supposed break-off of negotiations in start and call to your attention that the Soviet Union, this was a regular adjournment that was scheduled to take place. And the Soviet Union in departing simply said that they were not prepared at this time to set a date for resumption of meetings. But I thought also that it might be a pretty good time to state our own position on this and why we're going to continue attempting these negotiations. It was just 30 years ago today on December 8, 1953 that President Dwight Eisenhower made a speech on this very subject of nuclear weapons. And in that speech he said to the making of these fateful decisions, the United States pledges before you its determination to help solve the fearful atomic dilemma, to devote its entire heart, mind to find a way by which the miraculous inventiveness of man shall not be dedicated to his death, but consecrated to his life. And this administration endorses this view completely and this is what we are dedicated to. It also sounds very tough and final. Well, other than in this one, I think if they're pretty careful about their choice of words and all they said in this one was that they were not prepared at this time to set a date for when they would come back. I am very hopeful they will. I think this is more encouraging than a walk out and simply saying they won't be back. He is taking that up with the ministers right there now and I would support such a thing. I think that it would be. And that would sort of answer your question too. I think there's some preparation. There's been no indication from them of any desire for such a meeting. But Senator or Secretary Schulz meets Gromyko in Stockholm at that meeting. And we have not been out of touch. We have kept in communications at a number of levels. President, we'd better get on the way. Moving the Marines away from the airport in Beirut. There has been some talk for a long time about a change in assignments there and that still goes on. Thank you, sir. Would you like them to approve that, changing their position in Beirut? It is a move that is done in a dovetailed in with the Lebanese military force and I don't know what the military problems are or what they might be resolving right now.