 Good afternoon and welcome back to the program. Of course, the show continues until 3 o'clock right about now. We discuss how sports can be used to give back to the society and empower community. Joining us is WBC Super Lightweight Champion Judy Waguthi. Of course, closer to me, Judy. Nihaji? Pwa, sir. Long time. Kafisa. And at the middle, of course, is a pupil, a closet pupil at Kilimani Primary School. She tells me that she's an upcoming boxer. She wants to emulate Judy Orzarika. She's called Rose Magdalene. Nizani pigangumi? Yes. Sure? Yes. Dutapi man after show. Amma live kwa kamera? Live, say, say. And of course, Christine Anyangu is the professional teacher. Christine, good to have you on board. How are you? Thank you. I'm fine. Thank you. Of course. Let's speak about sports and CSR. Judy, you run an initiative called Ro Sugar Warriors. What is it about? Ro Sugar Warriors, it's about just empowering young girls. I started the initiative last year and I thought of creating a safe space for girls, like tuna patana, we talk, we train, and we just talk freely, because I was like, at their age, they just need someone to talk to, to have fun, and to forget about problems at home or the transitioning of them from young girls to their adolescent stage. Yes. So that's what we have been working on. It started as a fun thing and now, normally, na kusa future champions, beta wagudi. Aha, nice. So Rose Magdalene is among those pupils that attend the initiative. We are not going to do that. We are going to do that. At least I will say that. I will say that I am a young girl. So, what is the initiative called? Umelan. Umelan wikuniengi. Kamagani? Kusu. Boksi. When you never defend wikuniengi. And when you start a camp, you benefit from it, what is the initiative called? Kusawa. Na, inawa sa idea. Tumeisha. Napia life skills, kamaen, manafuun. Sozo kwa klasiit, kilimani primer. Napia unatendi initiative every Saturday. Una manegi aje kumaltitaz. Kwa sababu trafanya KCP. Na strike wangu kumutianum zazia seme. Uli concentrate sana kwa roshu gawarias. Nivi puna manegi ndo ubalans, eko education napia. Napia ina idea. Na stia tukwatch na trenda, trizina wik mandi wenezina Friday. So on this zia nikapata, I have almost 10 candidates wako klasiit. Na naka puti tina in the picture as a teacher. And I was like, let's not only be boksi, nga tia niki tisha in the mix, awe na was idea wikia, where they feel wakochini kwa subject zaw. So now, this zia we just train once in a week. Only on Saturday at 4. So that helps them to jagol between education and sport. So tina, your professional input, how has it been of much help to the kids who attend the initiative? Thank you. I think we've gone at least a step ahead. And it's helping them a lot, especially in the classwork. It's not easy, but we need to try and try and try. So we've been trying at least to balance the education part and the boxing part. And that's why I've been helping them around. So specifically, what do you teach them? Like all subjects. Our primary teacher teaches all subjects. So any subject that they have a problem with, I teach. But specifically in school, I teach English, social studies and seari. So the additional teaching you impact on them is a plus because the same, they also get to be offered in their respective schools. Isn't it the case? Yeah, sure. How do you ensure that there's no repetition? No repetition of what we are doing. It's about revision, not necessarily going on with the syllabus. We revise what they have learnt. So at least if they had a problem with it, they will understand better by then. Judy, what informed the idea? It looks like you know a nice initiative, brilliant, very noble. What really made you think about it? Actually, the idea came when I was hitting rock bottom. Last year, it was a tough year for me in my career. And I moved around a lot in social media of TV, trying to ask for help. And then after that, I was like, I need to go back. I need to bounce back. I need not to end the story. Because the only thing actually for now, what people remember me is crying on national TV. By then it did trend, especially on Twitter. So after that, I hit rock bottom, then I was like, the people were supposed to support me they did. And then one day my husband asked me like, you are criticizing them but you are on the same. You are not doing anything. You do something for the society. And that's when I was like, okay, I think I'll start to train boxing, kids boxing. And it was a bit tricky because when the few friends I talked to, they were like, to start that initiative in Kibira, it's tricky because Kibira kumeda briefcase CBO. Was it coming? And they're not doing anything. So I was like, I'll be another CBO briefcase. Then I was like, maybe I tried to be a bit special. Then I was like, that's when I targeted the girls. Because with the boys, it's very easy. Or if I say me, it's boys and girls, but the boys will overpower the outcome. So I was like, let me specialize on the girls and I know the life in the hood. And I was like, we have a moment of having fun, enjoying, forgetting your problems. There is not much I can do for them but I'm like, let me create a safe space for them. And we have two, three hours. You forget Mashida's at home, Kelele's at home. And then you come and do boxing. We have tea or yoghurt. We talk, then we'll end at home. So after a while, it moved on well. The whole of last year was alone. I was doing it alone. Then I was like, actually it has an impact. I need to expand it more. So that's when I talked to Tina. She's like family. I've been together for a few years. I talked to her and the first thing I started with, naku na Mshara. Apanivoluntari. Disclaimu mapeema. She was just jumping into the area and we're doing well. I would say we're doing well. Manda, sasa u kukwe initiative? Was that the support? Yes. Kiwi pi? Kwa kila kwa yana taka. Nava ambia na naseman iko misao, Itaon nesaya nanda na burus, urudi ma Feen sechele. Sasa sai wa na kuna kwa TV? Sejue. Kwa vene uliu Exponisa na onekwa, atend roh sugar warriors. Isponzi hii wa likuwa aje? Alise mati, onye za piga kuwing umimikiwa... Nene, meku uliuizas indi yo? Umimikiwa umimikiwa aje. Edbuni nisha nikawane. wu kajarebu ku box na hika pigam tu ama ni hewa tu me li pigam tu alafsasa shule naia wali mua na sema aji kusu we ku attendi iyo initiative ya roshu gawarius hawa wajwe hawa wajwe wana fawa wajwe lakini naiza wambia didis kia so Tina wajwe kia kia wajwe m'kajarebu 12-13 yaw magdaapaa wajwe kwa wajwe wajwe nisha wajwe wajwe nisha wajwe wajwe We do some local churches that are up on a hill, but a short court does not decide when to give up I don't know, washing the church, doing what. Kut is equally good. Yes, it's equally good but they have petty excuses not to attend the classes. So the excuses are never genuine? Ya, so sometimes you just have to pressure them and tell them this is for your own good. So you really need to attend this. The first week was, the number that turned out was not that good. The second week, at least they tried to come. But nowadays everyone wants to come, you see. So I think it's much progress to be with the girls and to interact with them and to teach them. So how many are they in a class? It varies, nowadays it varies because we have like 25 girls and then the class 8 girls are like 10. So sometimes even the class 7 comes. When the class 6, so we just do the tuition together with them. So sometimes it's like 15, 16, they come. Judy, I know the background of slums. Sometimes it's quite difficult to ensure that the initiative you pioneer gets into one of those success stories. But you determined, focused and committed towards breaking that jinx, defying all odds to ensure the same comes to pass. How has it been like in terms of the idea getting embraced by the locals, especially in Kibra, where you said there are a lot of brief case community based organizations? We are still struggling but the good thing are the kids are on board. So the parents are coming on board slowly. I would say they are coming on board slowly. Last year it was a bit tricky but this year I am seeing the results. When we launched the Sibiu last Sunday, half of them were the parents and they actually came. I went to do actually to invite them and the ladies came and they were impressed and shocked like, and then after that I did an exhibition because when I talk people usually think like, ah, why is it beginner? So to finish the event I did an exhibition with another professional boxer for three rounds and I guess that was the icing on the top like actually they can do it. So they mistake your small bodied nature to a person who can't fight. Even when we were doing door to door we were like, ah, you can do boxing, you can do boxing. So when we came to Mazarika we were like, ah, here I am a bodied instructor. So we were like, what's the matter with me? We were like, what's the matter with me? We were like, ah, I'm going to get a belt. So I think what you need to do next time is to see what the links are. After Sunday I think we'll have more positive parents and also with the guys I usually tell them our slogan is usually like don't let puvati define you, atrochu gawori as it all about let the talent and your character define you. Zifkiri mamboja mta mamboja nini and I actually tell them my story like at your age, mtuwa ngeni ambiantapa nendege it was, I would say like a dream. Get out of here. How did it happen? So I'm happy with the positive results I'm seeing. So Magdakani kwa li make it. Sasa, una raga kwa kwa kwa nani? Una raga kwa kwa majudi. Sofa mazuizi me kwa jumi piganapiganu kwa ono neneza kwa strung. Piawe ono jua tosema, kwa ono neneza piganapiganu? Veni mazazu wa li kushuku. Moe zi nishu. Sibi piganapiganu. Uko kibra ma kwa shule. Kwa tu? Una piganana kiranana. Laki misiku piganana ilia kumiza mtu. E. Imi takini chokoza piganana, chokoza na nampida. Na chokoza na. So una rawa kwa professional boxer. Kamakina Konje, Zarika, Judiapa. U kwa shua iwa goal, ita kwa achieved. Yes. What do you seek to do? To ensure that your objective comes to pass. Na je kitambutake kwa kitu, sa isu kwa klazit. U kita kwa pato over 400 marks. Uta work hard, utasoma kwa bidi. Susu na ta kwa boxer. Nini na utafanya? Tenda kwa na pato mii chadu de na tomya. Tina, I know a teacher you have your own school where you offer professional service and this one is just a passion now that you decide you grew up together and you've been friends for a while and that's why you ran and you never hesitated coming to her rescue when she requested for your aid even on pro bono basis. In terms of the way forward and the future of this initiative, where do you see it? I see this like it's gonna explode like all over the world even that Sunday after the launching of the boxing I actually texted her and I told her this is gonna be boom I told you that and then she was just laughing and I was like yes it's gonna be okay and it's gonna be like a big thing let's just now tell the world that we are here to stay and then the parents also came out actually the parents when they knew that even the classwork is there now they started like okay kama ni masomu hacha wa nde kama ni masomu hacha wa nde kama ni masomu hacha wa nde so na pata toto ana tolewa at least yo Saturday ana kuja and then tu mejaribia ku kibira yote iju e kuna kitu inafa ni kama ni in Akibera so it's gonna be something big na sasa yo masomu imekwa plus for example for her who is a class 8 preparing to sit for KCP exams has it been of added advantage to her even in her respective school of Kilimani primary kwa sababu what you teach them they get told the same at their respective schools and that now there are chances of even doing better yeah it has helped a lot like you know I don't only teach classwork so we teach even life skills I even teach them life skills when we came they could even communicate like in English there is a day I was communicating with them in English you know too what to amta I got to like ah teacher yo then I gave them composition they never brought the composition and they were like you English then I was like you know what you have to do it you really have to do it because tell me next time you will be out there the way you went out to fight in Spain and wherever so you will go there you were interviewed by Muzung or something like that how will you respond then by the end of the day everyone started speaking in English they had no option of course they were seeing like so it's really doing good and I think it's making an impact on their life me too I am from Kibera I am a teacher they were like I was like yes I was like in fact I used to stay down there even the library you are still a simple boy after you library I used to go there when I was in high school so I was like if I made it why not you to work hard you really have to get up from your comfort zone and say that I am not defined by where I come from I will make it so you did several slums within the Nairobi county why did you opt for Kibera because I understand there is Madare where such cases are rampant and kids also want to get subjected to such noble initiative Mukuru Kwa Ruben Mukuru Kwanjenga and Kibera and maybe going forward in the future you look forward spreading your wings a little bit further to other slums as well I stay in Jamuhuri so Kibera kwa po nyumu o ni karibu I grew up in Dandora I grew up in Dandora so I was like kutek 2 matatu skwenda Dandora then back home I have a small kid and I took her to dinner on the table and I met her somewhere and I was like it's still giving back to community so I was like that's how I came up with Kibera and I went to door to door places I didn't know in Jamuhuri but Kibera so I was like door to door and then it went well and for the future I don't know it's one thing at a time let me not talk big gate of ambitious ambitious because I still have that mentality of a boxer boxers we are just tuna semanga tuna kwa na telefocus it's like one thing about you get done with this one before you think on we focus on one thing training, eating, sleeping and beating visualizing when you tapiga your opponent so it's something I'm trying to transition with to spread my mind like to do other things and I think I would I would say let me take it one at a time and not be too ambitious or talk too big Magda marafiki zako na kwa na se maji kusui initiative na piya shule unanume imuksidiasana malimtina na kufunza piya unanenda shule unanufunza imuksidiasana akademikali unanume imuksidiasana unanute apafum vizur jumimi na kuletea success card na naizakupatiya present dakupatiya present wikipata 400 wikipata kitu na yu success nikuwa na pesa yu success kuwa na pesa success card ikuwa na pesa? nilazma kitabu na niski akaisiti kitabu na niski akaisiti so I know this is one of the most difficult interview to do if it was one on one with Magdalene she would have given me hard time so let's wrap Tina you are parting short in terms of the expectation what do you promise the kids? I want to promise them like first I want to ask them to continue working hard in school in the part of boxing they continue doing their best and also I want to tell them like hard work pays so they should work hard and I promise them to be there for them any time they need me they always be like wapitiya Christine wapitiya Tina so they have duty to communicate any time they need me and I will always be there for them to support them to talk to them to offer emotional support you know sometimes they come from home and they are like mamali nichiapa so in a video you offer consolation in a video you are part of life mamaki nichiapa ali kwa na correct to cash out another day I remember you shedding tears on a national television when your efforts to get a sponsor that could have helped you secure an opportunity to defend your title were fruitless and at some point at the end of last day I think we caught up at the Lavington every fitness gym where you said you are contemplating quitting boxing I don't know do you still hold on to the same position or there looks like some light at the end of the tunnel ahead I would say I no longer have the hunger to be in the ring when I train these girls that's where my my love has switched to Anapiga Anapiga zia poa Anapiga rite poa me nye mombia pakata me piga pakata poa and I'm like I think it's my turn to nurture the better wagudi like where reached so you ring now that you fail to defend it what happens actually in October last year the WBC president just wrote us an email and was like I'm sorry guys first of October I will declare the belt vacant and it was declared vacant so I still have the belt at home but it has no value but maybe we thought when ambasadamina muhammed got appointed for sports because she's a lady just like yourself maybe the plight of women sportsmen especially yourself the likes of atumazarika will be addressed yourself you made some approach to your governor who is also a lady Kirinaga county governor how was it like kuli endaji ekwani I would say it was an embarrassment we actually we met Amina we went me and Zarika we presented the belt and she had just started picked the office so we were like to come but she does it and she was like I will take over where things left and I'm sure there will be changes but we are yet to see the changes I was introduced to my governor in Kirinaga the fight actually was supposed to happen in Kirinaga there I went I had a meeting with the with the seers of gender we are taking it over we are our child the budget I came back I came back to Nairobi I was like go and put up the budget I put up the budget I went back and they were like don't worry Kirinaga county will be your sponsor so I went to Nairobi and I came here training camp wukapiga zoez wukapiga zoez it kapata opponent the president Canada was a Kamara Jessica Kamara of the WBC approved it was on even the date it was scheduled it was supposed to be 23rd August in Kirinaga county and uh and they just went mute on me out of nowhere I'm calling and answered calls and answered texts and three days to 23rd August I got an SMS from the seers a little patient we are working on it and that was it up to now I guess they are still working on it let's assume the middle people didn't push her father but it's okay you are doing very well right now you are happy it's sad I lost the belt but what I'm doing I'm happy I found peace I forgot I moved on I would say I moved on now that you did part of peace I moved on you need to take that take it to another level from where she left are you sure? yes wow we've been talking about sports and corporate social responsibility sports can be used to empower community give back to the society the initiatives that can be run through sports to ensure that you know kids the upcoming sportsmen and women are mentored are given proper opportunity to learn on the life skills and it's been a pleasure having Judy Wakudu is the WBC silver light weight champion Rose Magdalina student pupil at Kilimani primary school teacher trying to ensure these kids get what it takes to be successful in the future always a pleasure having you Judy asante kukuja we are happy na shkuru sana rose piawe asante kukuja ime kwa aji kukuoka tv for the first time but off mic unhandle mea Tina thank you for coming through always a pleasure coming up next with the fans on fan favorite segment where we shall discuss international football though there is a few fixtures happening only bundesliga league happening this particular weekend after the outbreak of corona virus but of course other headlines will be shaping up our conversation don't go stay tuned