 I have a motion to approve the minutes of February 14th, 2018. One second. Any discussion? I didn't have anything. If you have anything on the last minute, we could follow this particular signifier saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Discussion agenda 2.1, Supervisory Board reorganization. Currently on the chair, Carries the Vice Chair, and Matthew as the clerk. I cannot continue. I've reached the term limit. And since it's not Russia, I can't change all the limits. So for reorganization, I cannot be considered the chair, but with entertaining motions for the new chair of the executive committee. I'll nominate the group. Okay. One second. One second. Carries. Any other nominations? Then I'll instruct the secretary to... You can do it either way. I will just book them. I don't need to remember what that language is. Oh, I'll tell you what it is. You can instruct the secretary to cast one ballot. One ballot. One ballot. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed abstentions? Typically I would ask, but all the boards have heard that you're interested in Matthew. Yeah. For vice chair. May I just give you a... I think you're doing this for the executive, but then there'll be a recommendation. This is just a recommendation. This is a recommendation. I didn't hear you say that word. Recommendations. Okay. Chris is running in at this point. So our recommendation for vice chair. I'm happy to hear we'll continue. As we've watched in the left. Is there a second for Carrie? Can you as vice chair? Second. Any discussion? We're voting for vice chair. And Carrie. Recommendation to the full board. We're making a recommendation that Carrie be voted as vice chair. Are there any other? This may be more spaceful. We'll go to that. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed abstentions? And Matthew was the clerk so we need a new clerk. The requirement of the clerk essentially is when we go in an executive session, take the notes that require when we come out and there's occasional signatures required on when we don't take out the notes. I can't remember when we've seen the signature but on some documents. Occasionally required. Occasionally just checking on a bank statement or something. I think it happens twice a year. Twice a year, yeah. So or is there a nomination for a clerk or someone willing to step forward? I'll do it temporarily until I find I can do it. You know, I decided this. What do I want? No. Why don't you accept it? I should just not do it. Is there anyone else? A second for Dorothy? Okay, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed abstentions? So the recommendation can either be made as a slate or individually, I think typically the recommendation is we do it as a slate. But the executive committee recommends Matthew, Chair, are you going to do the work here? What will happen at the very beginning of the issue? And then the treasurer needs to be added to that slate. Yeah, then we've always done merit, honestly, is that treasurer. So Mary Ontsby was elected as the callous on treasurer as well as U32 at town meeting. And she mentioned, I think, she's interested in continuing. And she's always done it. She's been doing it since Florence passed away and she's been doing it for 20 something years. So yes, she's our second treasurer ever. Is that the recommendation? I just want to make her pass the slate. The issue of board needs to be added to the slate. Would that make sense, Bill? Sure, why not? Yeah, Mary Ontsby. True. Mary Ontsby as a paraphrase. And I'll second that. Can I get your name? I'm sorry. Oh, Chris, meet that. And that is from Mary. And if anybody knows the spelling of the last word. O-R-M-S-B-Y. Thank you. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed abstentions? Have we completed our recommendations? I think so. I think so. One thing I should have asked you, Stephen, up in the agenda of revisions, I have a question for you. What's it pertain to? Calendaring for the SU committees. I don't know if you want to tackle that under calendar. Sure. I don't think it's an agenda. We'll just add it by discussion. Okay. Anything else under reorganization? So 2.2 school calendar. It's on page five of your packet. Okay. It's just because that's pertinent to this discussion. Is what you have pertinent before the discussion? Yes. Before the discussion on page five, you'll see the calendar that has been put together with the Central Vermont Career Center. You might think of that as very tech. So you will see that calendar. This is for the school year right now that I'm talking about for next school year. We have to have 175 days in common with the Central Vermont Career Center. This has 179 in common. The only data that's not is Friday, February 8th. We are taking a School Development Staff Development Day and we've tried that in other years. We stopped doing that this year and found that it's better to use it at the beginning of the year. You'll also see that our last scheduled day is the 14th of June and then the next five days would be held there to the 21st as contingencies for snow days. And the graduation would be on the 14th of June. Having it later is definitely helping. This year is really key that we're a week later. We would be looking for a waiver this year and we have one day left to go that we don't have to ask for a waiver for the seniors. If we have another snow day, I'll be writing a letter to the Secretary, to the State Board asking for a waiver on the number of days that we're in attendance. Even though we have 180, we must have 175. It pretty much is the same pattern as this year. At some point, and we can talk more about this in the future and that's why I put my piece in my report about how we use time, how we're calendaring. I don't think it really works for... And I think I can speak for the leadership team because we've had a lot of discussions about it. It's not working for a proficiency-based learning environment that we're moving into. It's an aquarium calendar and Chittenden County a couple of years ago tried to change it so there were quarters and then chunks of break, like a week or two weeks of break in between. There wasn't acceptance of that community-wise because people are so set with this type of calendar and how they structure their lives outside of school. But this is not the best calendar for kids for learning. Other states have changed their calendars to try to do that. Not New England, not the Northeast but if we were in the Southeast or Southwest you would see changes in calendar. Is there any corresponding change in student performance? Is there a change in the calendar? I've not got to look for any of that research. I don't know either way. That would be the selling point. I think. In terms of... Well, we would still be bound to the tech center. That tech center. Maybe. No, we don't. What I mean is if their students were doing better too they might, unless they're bound to an aquarium calendar for some technical reason. We're bound to that the five supervisory unions that flow in the very tech have to have the same hundred. My point is I wonder whether their educational delivery service or what they deliver needs the calendar that they have now or whether they would be amenable to more of a quarterly system to sell. I don't think... I think you'd have no argument in the superintendents. You'd have no argument from them. It's the cultural piece and the reason I bring this up is when we think about school start time and other work that we're doing there are other things by just besides just starting looking at start time that affect learning. Longer school days. Definitely can... It doesn't mean that you have to go change master agreements because things can be staggered so don't... There are many ways to do different things in the way we're doing it but looking at it in different time in different ways of our use of time and it's becoming more and more of an issue as we try to improve learning for kids. Given the weather issues we had this year do we run into problem with having graduation to the high school before snow days as opposed to after it? Do we run into a problem with... because if you have to make a way with this it's probably because high school seniors have been running after it, right? So does it make sense to need that back a week? You'd have to... I don't think we'd want some falling from U32. That would be an issue, right? Well, in recent years... In recent years it hasn't until this year we're that close but it is one of the pieces that's in there when we're thinking about what we're trying to do is trying to make that date. I mean, just... Well, so... it's my impression there's going to... with school start time, school day, some in-service possible if you look at the list that Bill put in his report I think for this entire year calendar and school start time issues around us, I suspect are going to be ongoing through the year looking to make possible changes in a multitude of ways so that could include a different date for graduation in prep for the agendas... the prep for my last agenda sort of getting door open saying if they run on a lane duct here. But school start time in and of itself in the school day, I suspect is going to be a pretty... in itself is a cultural shift and it's going to take some outreach if the committee recommends going that way some community involvement, some discussion. So the discussion was around is it better... and Bill, you can... if you want, but is it better to look at a big comprehensive practice of change and do it all at once? Or is it better to take smaller bites and then there's advantages or disadvantages of both? I think it's fair to say that the school calendar and how it affects student learning outcomes is a logical discussion this year because of the school start time and whether everything's proposed together or not it would make sense to explore all that in a comprehensive to the start time calendar when in service days are going to be and do we make adjustments there do we make graduation later all those things. And I think all of them will require a lot of discussion and a lot of community involvement next spring the issue board doesn't vote to make all kinds of changes and the community is not well aware of it. So I'm not trying to squelch discussion but I would say it's preliminary to get too dumb into this tonight other than I think the intent was to make and we can talk about some more but it's to make the executive committee aware that this will likely be a topic that will be explored further. I'm just wanting to reason I wanted to bring it all up really with the school start time starting to initiate their work I had probably about three of the principles maybe three that I can think of that may have been more frankly forgotten I can think of the three by name that I can remember from a long time if we're really going to go after time usage we need to think about some other things as well so that's why I put together what I did in my report for you so you understand that so it may potentially lead to a change of the charge to the school start time conceivably could be an avenue to approach it and explore things other than just that again it's more to think about so as we move ahead we'll have some ideas we're not trying to resolve it the only, can I just add something from the board board inspector so I just wanted to let all of you know we're going to put and I think I said this everybody's local board member just going to say it again here tonight we have a coded calendar we had out for those of you that were here I had some feedback that since because we had put that out everybody had scheduled themselves and then when things changed that was too much you can't don't have the changes and have the calendar and so this year we tried not having the calendar and that made more chaos so I'm going to put out a calendar and I'm going to put out with all the committees I hand you do this as the membership of each committee some of them are just school quality I think everybody everyone has a member down on it and hopefully that will become an SU committee that would need to be a charge and a motion made to the next SU board meeting it's currently EU32 but the people that have been there and they're still on that committee have said hey the third Thursday of the month is the time we want to meet every other month so we'll try to calendar that some of these like policy right now is in conflict with the Berlin meeting but we'll do a doodle poll with the people that are on it and then get that on the calendar so people can see that we're going into the negotiations here and that's one of the reasons is that we're going to have to really know for when negotiations for the folks that are on negotiations and the school start time right now doesn't have a pattern it has a deliver pattern because we're trying to have the forums in such a way and then get some survey information to the end of May so we're going to try to do all that but I wanted you to see that folks are on here and say the change in local meetings last night Romney took the second Thursday of the month is their monthly meeting so we don't have conflicts between local meetings and what we're going to have to really look at is for the Washington for this committee the executive committee to look for a time and I think we've learned I feel we've learned that meeting just as we are this month the week before the full board meeting is more productive for us than the meet an hour before the full board meeting I don't see a lot in that so what I don't know for this group is if there can be I need some feedback from all of you is it better because we'll have carousel meetings I'm assuming still on the same pattern that we did this past year and I want to be clear I'm making that assumption but that it's September October February and June March we have an SU meeting is it necessarily a carousel meeting or not I don't know Stephen it's the same with December we have a budget meeting in December but for the SU but it's not necessarily a carousel meeting and if that's the case it's looking at when the months we don't have that do we have the executive committee on the fourth Wednesday and once that we do have a carousel do we have it the Wednesday before the third Wednesday and I would appreciate feedback from this group or thoughts or other ideas well I can say from my perspective of building agendas the way that we've evolved so I won't talk specific days but pulling it away from the same day as the full board meeting I thought was good doing it a week before the full board meeting I think is good because then the chair and the superintendent have a framework of the agenda they're going to talk about and talk about it as the executive committee a week ahead of time for those of you who've been here we just come in it's like a draft and sometimes it's like forget it there's no way you're going to be able to do that or things have changed legislature takes a vote so we've got to drop that so we can fit in this new thing so I've found it to be very effective and if we had useful conversation on some important stuff we can't if we're not backed up against the executive committee meeting and we're kind of rushing and cramming stuff in so I don't know that so like for me when there's an SQ board meeting the executive committee would meet the week before and then you're just saying on the months when there wasn't one that would be my recommendation that's what I'm working on okay but I just want to check with everybody if that works I think it makes a lot of sense to having that meeting an hour or half an hour before the hearing itself makes for a long night and it's kind of it's not a great meeting yeah I always thought that it would help us return just something putting something together to put in front of the SU and I like it much better meeting on a different day night whatever it can be a week before it can be anything for me so what Bill suggested for now we're okay with I mean we might have to tweak those off but I'll get a calendar and then Crystal do what she's always been doing which is sending you digital appliances and whatever device you like and if you can keep yourself calendar okay two, three board goals here isn't so the work is pretty much done it went out in the packet the last supervisor board packet had a list of potential goals I want to say it was maybe like eight or ten we just broached it at the last SU meeting to say over the next month look at these we're going to dedicate a chunk of time in the next two SU meetings to really fine tune what the two, three, four goals might be for the supervisory board excuse me, executive committee moving forward I think the main reason we have it on today is to talk about how we're going to do that what's the format how do we want to set up a question go ahead I was just going to say that this list was culled from various sources like board minutes and recommendations and various reports and so on but I think I just want to check the views here we basically talked about we bring this forward as we did at SU board last time as a framework but also we're going to ask people to come to the ideas they have for this may not be an exhaustive list maybe people have other thoughts on things they want to focus on and I hope that came across and I might suggest that you may open the discussion that way to say this is not intended to be an exhaustive this is a beginning there may be something that's not on here that's important to show up there's no reason why it can't be added and included in the discussion sorry go ahead what I'm trying to do is set up the discussion about the alignment might be too strong word or the wrong word but there's maybe some sort of linkage between the SU and the local goals it doesn't mean there shouldn't be and can't be local goals how do we do that work together and how do we support work together it has to be done really I think we should that autonomy so I guess I'm saying this out loud so people will vet it but basically there has to be some kind of introduction of why we're trying to set some goals which may be self-evident to some but not to everyone but just saying that it helps to work with it will be a bit longer our progress more effectively provides clarity to the leadership team and so on and so forth this is a list that we a kind of a suggestive list that we came up with everyone has seen it but then at that point we probably solicit or people have questions about these so we're going to put this I'm looking back at the three superintendents report I think it's the last version we're going to put this out again it's already gone out it was in the last packet I'm just saying when we send out the packet I think we need it we can put in the piece about please bring your ideas to the Kansas list but one of the things that the last version did was it categorized governance, engagement implementation plan so if new things get suggested they may or may not fit into these categories I know the school start time didn't quite fit into these but there's something oh we had it other I guess I'm not going into the process that we're going to use I don't know what your thoughts are about that but do we want vague and barely coalescing do we want to try to have one for each group or something like that they're all important goals from each of these categories yeah Bill, could you get you made me a copy of this I don't have it that'd be great yeah I'm not really sure because when I look at engaging our community there's a category and there's two bullets under it one is community engagement and a sort of desire to do some professional development for board members and community engagement and the second one is a communication plan essentially developing one I would assume, auditing our current meetings this isn't been creating a plan that does seem to me like one goal besides, it's not like each bullet is it's own thing necessarily and I certainly think that all the schools could buy into the same thing I think it's important for all of them so that is a good thing for our alternative governance structure is combining our goals that particular goal that's the other thing I'd like to say in the intro the sort of ideal outcome is that all the boards would adopt in common at least a core set of goals if individual boards have other things they want to focus on or look at or do as well that's obviously fine but just so that there's harmony across the system and I think you're right Dorothy, I think that anything we can do to demonstrate you know sort of our working together is important right now one of the the netball we benefit from that's all our communities I agree with that if we can I have wondered if we can we should put some thought into how maybe we can engender we can actually encourage some more community engagement I just think about things like yet we built that very strong community people with simple little tricks maybe we could do that here because that's one of the problems we kind of face as people are not engaged quite enough often enough until there's a crisis yeah and that's understandable everybody's lives are busy but maybe there's some things that we can do that we kind of enable that a little bit more and in a fun kind of way I'm not sure so there's some good training that's being offered here in April to start to look at that we've got some good experts in our community when I think of Susan Clark and the folks with public public access group and some of the work that I've been doing through my doctor I want to bring us back to our discussion though the discussion right now is do we want to pull specific goals from each category and I would say no because in my mind those are just grouped to make it easier to digest them it's not to suggest it's not even to suggest that they all could come from one area I think that's just informationally easier to digest I don't know how others feel but I wouldn't be inclined to say let's pick one from each so one of the things I wanted to bring back was one of the there's many attributes of good goals but one of the ones that stays in my mind all the time is duality is it doable so if you're going to think about goals as a group success breeds success so what we had some good successes we had good successes around the student learning outcomes we had successes around the monitoring first year doing it we did what the goal was for that we had some successes around we could start to look for those other pieces what I wanted to ask and when we think about it like any of those categories or another one what's our duality and where do we have time to do that and talking about who does what so we could make a really we could have this great goal that we really want to get done but we can't either resource it either in time or personnel support to make sure it happens and when I say that I mean board members as well so not just school personnel but just thinking about what can we do in any structure we could have a different structure we could redo the board means and things like that to make it happen or subcommittees but I want to throw because for me the place I'd like to get to is most of the boards but not all the boards have a yearly work calendar and they say this is what we're going to do and we use that to drive the agendas and that usually drives the work that gets done and so when we start to think about this I start to think in that same realm of what's the calendar look like with the meetings either subcommittee meetings or issues and I'm not trying to say our current structure has to limit us I just want us to kind of think about that and do ability realistic so again it goes to the meeting next week how is this going to be presented and how are we going to how is this going to be managed how is this going to be presented how is this going to be run at the meeting because I don't know what you could have meant I don't know I think you're you know I I'm going to presume that whoever is the chair at the meeting at the meeting I just don't want to be presumptuous so so yeah let me just kind of read this and get your reaction and then I'll come back to the one that I think has been formed which I think Steve was just alluding to is how are we going to actually solicit and then possibly settle on you know candidate goal if you will so introduce the topic talk about the importance that's good for the system our preference that goals be harmonized across boards and then the origin of this list kind of where it came from then describe the process to the SE awards saying that the purpose of the discussion that night is to solicit ideas from board members on other things that should be considered and then potentially to decide on some number of goals discretion and the objective for that night is to decide on those goals at which point the executive committee will then do some work in consultation with the district to work on finalizing the language of those goals over April and May essentially that with the goal of getting those out in the packet for our June carousel meeting and then voting for those goals in place at that meeting at that point we open the floor for people to suggest goals that should be on the list if they have something in mind then this is part of coming back to you which is figuring out what we do then and then at the end we want to vote essentially on the curriculum well I think what gender wise we have discussed was having so it would be accelerating your plan isn't that why we were talking about having local boards able to convene was it for board goals no we're at 46 can you ever mind forget what I just said so what would be how would you window down numbers for tonight is for goals I mean I know you've seen there have been 46 of well marketing preferences as the dots I've got plenty of I've got plenty of dots and I think it works well what the sense of the group is so I don't know if anybody has a better idea but it's easy I mean do we want to do we want to break down into categories and so we need to go from each of these different categories or just leave it wide open so you know the group says I want to just concentrate on goals from this particular category and I'm going from the categories of the three that this is here or is there a sense that this group would like to work on goals from different topic areas because they're all important and rather than concentrate on one goal or multiple goals in one area it's not a wide open process actually if you can say whatever full board is the whole that's what we do goal wise as opposed to say if people want to come into these categories and I'm not often going to have some just I guess what I would what I would suggest maybe is that we we leave it open but that we talk about that before sending people this with their dots and say look if you feel like more governance is the thing that you think we should be just spending 100% of our time on and there's three things in there that you think you know should be our top three priorities and put them there but just think about that because we're putting all of our A's in one task essentially. I mean that's smart and you know what what we could do to facilitate that they would break them into their groups and then you can vote how you want but it would make them easier to separate those categories of the categories a little bit so I mean I don't know it's not an expense but do we want to have I don't know it's common in the voting way where you vote for one and it falls out over time then you have a second choice and it goes so that you're so that you're getting as because a lot of people can put up a lot of goals and if you have one goal that has four but then a lot of others are three, two, two, one, one you know four is not an overwhelming number of votes from the whole group do you want to have like the second round I mean like having different color dots so it would be your first choice the yellow would be your second choice and blue would be your third choice and you get three dots you know they didn't what kind of page is that it's like it was the old days it's how meaning I would suggest maybe that we can see how the first round goes and if it seems like there's six that are evenly spread then we can do a second but maybe the three or four just emerging immediately is like the obvious and that's probably the best way to do it the quickest well it depends on how much conversation about each goal that there is in other words if we just put up the words and say nothing you might get one set of responses but if a few sentences or something was talked about where this could go that might how much time do we have for this Stephen we decide should the best one say like what takes what time does it take there has been there are some words that are going to me after the issue meeting do we know we well I think Narnia sounds like you're sure from last night right Chris but I don't know anyone that has to meet right now besides of that so typically we go 5 30 to 7 conceivably if we went 5 30 to 7 30 we'd have 2 hours instead of an hour and a half so I mean that's what we're doing is building the agenda now as you reorganization shouldn't take any more than 2 or 3 minutes I don't anticipate there's never been new world candidates so I mean I'm just looking so we're 5 minutes on that school calendar 10 15 minutes because it's just it's going to be this I'm at the SU board I mean I wouldn't recommend allowing it to get into a discussion the kind of way I'm a child here go ahead and just perhaps it's filled here's some things that we're going to think about and talk about over the next year school start time length of the school day different ways to configure but we just want people to be aware of that so conceivably those first two things well in the beginning 5 10 20 minutes takes us through 2.2 so then how much time do you want to spend super intent and evaluations going to take 15 minutes who knows on the act 46 update 2 5 6 won't be on the full board and 2 7 is not going to be on the supervisor board I don't think that was the plan so that's around us so 30 45 minutes between board goals and act 46 if we want an hour and a half you'd have 45 minutes for those two things if we went 2 hours then you'd have an hour 15 minutes for those two things okay so here's my suggestion not again I'm just brainstorming here I'm also floating this because all of you come from district boards so my sense of this would be to try to suggest that the SU board limit discussion so that we're not we don't get into a free ranging conversation about what the goals mean or don't mean because the whole point of April and May is to give space for that deliberate process to unfold I'm planning to visit every district board again in that period so if every district board sets aside 20 minutes or something on one of those two agendas and discuss we can have conversations if people have questions you know we each board and incorporate that into how we're drafting or awarding the goals and then bring that back in June so my I guess my preference would be to try to manage the process so that the conversation doesn't start to get philosophical about you know you shouldn't be worried this way or that way or what does this exactly mean but really just identify what people think are the primary topics and I would think simplify little discussion allocate 30 minutes and you're thinking small groups Matthew to break out my observation is we get into deeper discussions when they're small groups and there's reluctance and I've been told this by some board members when we're in the whole group to have a deep discussion to have a discussion at all actually Chris I've been told that way well I guess because I'm thinking it's not really a time for a deep discussion I guess I was thinking that's fine I was just trying to give you the kind of explanation I think the goal should be clear into what it means because they're going to prioritize and if it means something different and it only comes out later as it's all I didn't know this was what it meant so at least have enough of a discussion that people know what they're holding on I think if people have a question or they want to clarify something then I think we should definitely do that because there were one of the things that I didn't even go two ways but I think the first way I'll suggest is to say we're going to break us up into three or four groups or maybe six groups and you two groups we want you to look at this you can put other goals down besides the area but look at board governance what might you write as a goal and come with your group and give us at least one goal and you've got other things in your group go ahead and put them on the chart paper this other group engaging communities what might you say that goal is you've got some resource documents here given to you if you have other things put them on there because that way you won't have as many global choices if you want many global choices you can take the small groups write down whatever goals that you as a group think would be pertinent and hear the resource documents but you might have some repeats going on that would be kind of weird like hey we see a bunch everyone's got a governance goal and the executive committee you guys try to massage that into a common goal so I think you can go either way with that but that just takes time that won't work in 30 minutes that's a 45 minute that's a 45 minute activity yeah I mean I guess my again sort of floating this to the group my inclination with this my personal inclination with this is that it's more important almost that we have goals and then we get them exactly right this year anyway I feel like because we haven't had really articulated goals in at least a couple of years and so rather than kind of spend a tremendous amount of time sort of sorting through that we have many goals we can choose from I think that are valid and that have some rationale behind choosing them and we can create a process for next year that is maybe more deliberative and allows for more time starting our leader for example on our calendar given that we only have two meetings and that in essence to accomplish this I'm a little wary of I don't want to accomplish what the goal will be for the board next year that's right we're only talking about one year goals what about limiting say you've talked about various goals and I like the point that you made is most important to have a goal not necessarily which one but choose it's got to matter it has to matter what I'm saying is shorten the choice to maybe three, four goals to the group's work on rather than have it really open ended where people will be coming up with goals that may be good but it's hard to focus when you have too many I guess that's one suggesting that we start with this list we say people have other suggestions they think are critical to add but we don't want that to be open ended or just a wide open discussion we'd like to entertain if there's another three or four things like that we're just missing and then we immediately can have a little bit of discussion but then we basically immediately move to the prioritization process where people are voting and saying well this seems to be the most important thing and then we identify the top three to five of those and then again in April and May in conversation we can tease out or something comes up in that conversation but they were not deciding on anything really at this meeting we're not deciding on goals but in conversation and do you want to start from a pretty format list from the February or the January I mean just literally up there so people can vote I mean those are things we need to get on and I don't need to know today so much time back to the February the way this was rolled out was here's the list that the Executive Committee has put together we expect all of you over the next month to go through this if there are things that are important that aren't on here at the March meeting we expect you to come prepared to say this should be on and this can be made clear in the board tactic that goes out at the end of this week for those of you that haven't had a chance yet please make sure to do so in my mind a lot of the discussion and what potentially would happen in small groups should be or should be less necessary for me small groups are brainstorming we've eliminated the brainstorming and there's a short list and then to that short list so this is just my there's some more that might be added but we're asking people to show up at next week's meeting with a pretty good idea of what their priorities are on a pace what they see and then there can be some short discussion like Matt said I'm clarifying or these two goals look like the same thing should we put them together or I never thought about that anyone that Rick suggested can we talk a little bit about it I think that's what you're saying you manage that and then you go up and put your stickers what we're asking is board members to come with a pretty clear idea of if what they see there represents their three or four important goals or is there something else that you don't see there that needs to be added for everyone to consider I would go so far as to even say have people I would go so far as to Chris but I would say that they can physically be honest we actually save a lot of time there will still be a few new things that come up to me but that that puts a little imperative on us to do their homework and it's a thought that the board packets are going to be put together I don't know if they're packets but I think where I heard Rick I heard you say something a little different so they're almost up there on a chart paper but Rick says hey our priority is to purchase a central Vermont Civic Center so we go on the ice rink you know that please don't want it or don't need another facility but you know that you would say that and say hey make sure it's on the chart paper that's exactly what I said and it gets some thinking a little bit if they actually respond and get it in here you can be prepared instead of him writing it before the fact that is exactly what I was saying yeah I guess what I mean I agree with what you were both saying and I think that the just to reiterate I think what I'm looking at is the expedience here because we only have the two as the meeting that's remaining this year to complete this process I don't want the board's decision to do what they want to do this would be my suggestion that we try to move expediently to finalize this if we feel like a more proper process we're going to involve more brainstorming and discussion and kind of you know earlier engagement on developing a topic then we should build that into our schedule for next year so we can get started in December to do whatever it is and start working on that I just think that now we're at a point where it can seem smart I think the next one is going to give us the answer to that question for next year we'll find out how much people are feeling but a couple of processes are they well they feel like it was too short I think your approach is good so we have a consensus on the format yeah I think it won't be small groups I think Matthew will manage the discussion I think the introduction will help clarify the process some brief discussion needed people put the stickers up we have three or four just leave out that's very clear that's the way people think and that's what gets discussed at the local board meetings I think what Matthew is suggesting being built in is what makes sense because then it gives the districts the local boards two meetings to chew on it a little bit and chew on specific language or gee it sounded good at the full board meeting but we really don't know if we want to spend any time at all on that so then in June everyone comes back with two additional meetings and hopefully some clarity in the full board meeting so there will be two more full board meetings there will be only one more two local board meetings okay that's where the difficulty arises because they'll be speaking in isolation only if Matthew goes to all the board meetings he can do it I think this can distribute information I'm hoping I can get at least one more person to go with otherwise it's going to be all these positive discussions and then come back in June that's where you're not going to have cross-pollination where people may be talking about the same goal in a really different place I guess that's notionally in my head I'm getting every meeting in April maybe one other person bill obviously is attending them all if there are questions like that that come up we asked the district boards to put them on their agendas from May to sort through any questions if there's a way to just have a repository of okay these are what can come in and four goals set out and people just will comment is this what we think this means it's a little tough because again trying to think through the opening of any issues and have to think about boards can't use electronic means to have a discussion so they can't use Google Docs or something like that a bulletin board weighs around that I suggest we don't overthink it I think there's representatives right here so if you have a conversation you're going to be working on here the end of April and the end of May and you can come back and give feedback and say I anticipate that being on the executive committee being part of our agendas for April and May just because we can go yeah I would make one last thing and just that when we get to the end of that discussion next Wednesday I just want to ask everybody how comfortable are you with this we debated how do you want us to do this differently last year can we do it like this so we can dig down the details they may be fine with it yeah I guess I probably have more incline to suggest if people think about that as we work our way through the process April and May to the June meeting I think it's a great idea maybe premature at this meeting to kind of ask people to comment a process that hasn't quite yet unfolded that's fine whatever you think we kind of get to that end point I think we're a good enough point where we know what's going to happen next week so this is going to be a notice from Crystal going on to board members with a pack like that email that she usually has that cover if you have goals in mind get them in we'll get one board like a bull so that people are aware okay alright 2.4 presentation a super evaluation summary part just needs a couple minutes next Wednesday's meeting a presentation of the evaluation so I just want to check with you all the wrong same page my thought was to include the written report in the packet so all the board members have that they can look at that I'll make the point well if you'd like me to present the summary I'm happy to do that on Wednesday I would start by making the point that it's somewhat unusual certainly in my experience to have summary presentation in open sessions just so people can recognize that I think that's important I would just prepare a few slides just to give you an overview and answer any questions it's not really meant to to reconduct the survey the evaluation is basically what it is at this point but if people want to dig into the content of it we may want to move into executive session we'll touchy so I just want to say that it went fine two years ago and that's basically what happened so how does that sound I think the plan was basically the same format as last time so less than five minutes of presentation then after that okay Act 46 update so Matthew can you handle this yeah essentially I don't think there should be any reason to have to discuss the hearing or process because the email went out every district board meaning except for E32 I didn't get to this month because they strangely don't have the day after town meetings and you can sort of get my bearings before you guys were meeting so I don't know if we'll need to discuss that too much but what we Scott and Flor and I had felt that we sort of gave a point where we felt like due diligence probably required us to at least consider providing better answers to the secretary's questions about our efficiency study and our sped study because they were very direct and very specific and we did not have answers ready at that meeting so we worked on drafting something with Bill and Chris to try to kind of update where we are with all those recommendations and the idea was that we were going to finalize that draft hopefully tomorrow or by Monday we'll go out with the packet we can talk about it at the SU board meeting and then if there's a sense that we want to communicate that to AOE as an indented to our proposal in response to those questions the district boards could we can recess some of the district boards can basically vote to do that we didn't feel like it was our place to communicate anything further to AOE on behalf of the boards without explicit approval to do so which is why we precorded handling it like that so that's kind of what the substance of that it's essentially just saying here's this is what happened with the sped study and here's the status and essentially just basically that thank you for reminding me of my work I'm going to do that for you you've been very gracious about it I know what else is on your plate I just need to do that for you now so it'll be the packet it should be it needs to be in the packet I haven't seen anything but I'm not anticipating that it's going to be controversial it's just one of the questions was how many of the recommendations have you implemented from the efficiency study so I don't know and you already gave me a I mean it's not a lot of work but it's going through and the hardest one was actually going back to the sped study because you know all the efficiency study had a nice list well the sped task force study that was done in 2011 everything's embedded within the narrative so it's kind of like okay go pull it it's very ineffectively laid out but still the point of this upcoming meeting is to say here we are for the group of three to say here's the questions that we couldn't answer that we asked here's what we're recommending the answers to those be any brief discussion break up into the district recess going to the district the district says hopefully yup that's fine that's what we agree the answer should be we come back we decide all the districts have said yes that's what we want to go forward then those answers can go forward to you no no and like I said basically how many of the efficiency study recommendations have you done I said you just count 16, 22 we never hit a number so I don't see it as a controversial it's just reporting the number that have been there and the other question wasn't same thing as sure what have you done so when does this fall after the goals and time frame just because it sounds like we should do the goals first because people are dying tentatively though okay that's where is the agenda now basically almost goals evaluation and what I would do is write agendas for the years you know it sounds like Cal's there isn't anything else so it would be a one agenda item for some boards without going back I can't remember everybody but it would be you know you're going to convene your local board you'll do this recess to finish the SU board and then reconvene to do whatever other business you have so again if you tour at the end tentatively I'll budget around 30 minutes but just when you go through the process of recessing convening and everyone moves around just to alright so for the March two five six two six supervisory board agenda I think we've set our agenda I mean the discussion agenda we reward we do school we do the calendar there's a reward of five calendar we figured only five and then we do the board goals where we're looking 30 maybe as long 30 minutes superintendent evaluation 15 minutes so we're looking at 15 30 an hour and then if at 46 is 30 minutes an hour and a half so we're probably looking closer to two hours potentially although if the board goals and at 46 go quicker I mean probably what I recommend is the way we typically do it have the local boards we'll have to warn at 530 annually I'll try to look at the timing and get that set for the recess and then if anyone, if it looks like I'm just going to keep using last name and note at least we have that other resolution to talk about then you and I can work on that but to say hey the first part we're going to be doing the first part at 46 in the cafeteria then the second part will move to room 912 I'm just picking one out of the air then we'll be there at 7 ish so is that okay for that at 46 part I love that so then on the agenda we're also going to have a policy no that's just for here that's just for here I want to report to you about part of the field superintendent what about the school quality does that need to be on the agenda that does because it's not I think it will be an easy thing to do yes it's really the SU board the school quality committee and how to organize the monitoring of the monitoring reports I can't remember if we actually have the charge what if what if we under what will be 2-1 the union board re-organization we've tacked it on so first executive committee recommends a slate of officers and the executive committee recommends that this U-32 committee move to an SU committee we already have a I just don't I don't anyone say anything against it again I got the matching provider the lead in to say this has been a U-32 but all the boards have it just seems like it's done its course as a high school and now it should be moved to the entire district line to supervise the union line so we'll add it under review okay and not to add to our agenda too much but we're about school start time we believe they have their form on Monday they might have no progress report we don't even know if that's going to be well they're on so maybe so I was wondering if we're going to be raising all these calendar items and then it came up like do we maybe want to think about having the school start time committee become a school time committee that wouldn't have to look at all these different questions but I think that given where that committee is in its process this would not be the meeting to do that we could say maybe we'll think about this down the line maybe at the gym meeting maybe later I don't know maybe a serious time on in June to there's supposed to be a report back in June there's still much going on like that but they're listed under reports to the board so if they wanted to typically they don't necessarily do a report but we ask board members if you've got any questions and they could do a one or two because they're in that list so they'll have an opportunity to clarify you're talking about having let me say a school time committee talking about calendar starting time length of the day how do we organize the week so we get teachers in the professional development we think they need all these things that maybe a committee we definitely have to give them where that's a significant increase in their task list that we definitely need to be kind of counted out it's not going to make sense to let them do their forms over the next few months all right so I think the agenda is pretty well set so let's go to 2.7 Supervisory Union Board Policy Development and for that I'll get to build his superintendent superintendent report which wasn't in the packet it was e-mailed was it e-mailed today? today or yesterday that's a separate so I just wanted to bring out first the policy committee deserves a round of applause or celebration and really gave it a place where all required policies for the first time in my tenure that were staying within a five year review period which is tremendous and some of the question of the policy committee is what's next in the efficiency study we had a recommendation and it was under government so I believe this is a board piece because this not all was sitting here but this group was very clear to me and along with the SU board saying bill go work on anything that has in the operations governance to the boards and so what I'm asking about is that for that group the policy in trying to think about calendaring out their work for the next 12 months is thinking about I can tell the recommended policies but what other pieces do we need to work on in the non-required and if you remember Vermont school board association there's required to consider and then there's considered so I may not have the actual names correct but there's kind of those three levels they're required or either required in federal or state statute so we have to have them so those were in pretty good place with we have two more to finish this spring and then we'll be there though the other ones are how much you know might really essential question is how much you know buying and do we want to give to other policies and and I leave that just as I said stop right there maybe that's maybe the first thing the committee should probably do is go through those come up work through a list of what they see is the highest priorities bring it right back to the bring it back to a carousel or bring it back to the boards I mean I don't know if that makes sense but the group let's see if they agree how many there must be a myriad of policies that are not the same amongst the five schools and U-32 so can we find a way to group them into like things and maybe some district one policies it'll take a while I guess it'll change but I think that helps us in proving that we're pre-K through 12 people interested in those all the kids in one household and I'm sure there are policies in Calis that do or do not exist in Worcester and vice-president oh yes I can tell you I trip over them all the time maybe maybe I don't know where these policies all reside but maybe each elementary school or each school board needs to have a list of their policies and then someone or a few people not necessarily the policy committee try to coordinate them and then give it to the policy committee but seems to me there must be a way to begin to get it coordinated it might be a summer intern I don't think that was done not since five years we've only done the requirements since I've been here because it's been such a monumentous task that it's one that is trying to make something doable so it's like let's just go after the required policies right now so we're there so now it's going it's looking beyond that yeah memory it was Linda Bofre music but it was probably almost eight or ten years ago so what's happened is things have changed really really going back to the efficiency study wasn't one of the recommendations to come up with a single set of policies so I'm totally in favor of moving in that direction and maybe the next step is to go through the recommended right because we've done the required now the next level logically would be recommended as doable I think it's kind of silly to have nested Sarah I mean I love that in a general sense but I think it's silly to say that we're going to have a single set of policies because you know there are differences in towns and they may want to have policies that are unique to their circumstance well not saying they can't I was just saying there should be some policies that can be uniform well a lot of them yeah I guess one policy would be if there's going to be a deviation like there ought to be a rationale for that or sort of like a stated reason or you know preferably speaking like if it's a deviation or is it a no it's a wrong wrong choices I mean I'm not sure I tend to have to justify something they felt was important to them you know but you know we can yeah I mean to me it's a kind of I guess it's worth apparently there's some discussion to be had about it you know so I mean having the realism of having served on the policy committee and wanting to capitalize on the momentum that the policy committee has generated perhaps what we could ask them to do is look at the recommended policies look at the recommended policies that are the same and the recommended policies that are different so the ones that are already the same conceivably we can just tackle and bring those through and make them current right same to ones that are already in existence in local schools or same as to what what do you mean all the schools have this policy and it's the same but it should have been reviewed two years ago it's written the same bring it forward so you're saying there are none of those I don't know well that's what I'm saying I don't want to say others are going to do work before the policy committee does and you can all disagree with me but that means nothing gets done so I want it to be so we ask the policy committee if they're the same and it's allocated bring that same policy just like ones have come to the SU board we say that policy committee says this policy is the same in all the schools just needs to be had a reading so that we can say we've reviewed it within that specified time and then look at the ones that are different and allow the policy committee to say these three policies are different we've talked about it in the policy committee we can't come up with any rationale on why they're different and we'd like to propose that we tackle the, you know, here's the language that we think should go but at that point maybe you've referred to the board and why are they different why are you each board should have an active rep policy committee so I don't want to see a bill shake his head so I probably shouldn't move because I'm not shaking the mood again please don't move in I'll speak when I my sense is that the policy committee was given to something of a charge four years ago self-developed self-developed self-developed charge to review all the required policies and make sure that they were one long uniform yes within two policies of completing that self-imposed charge so there's some question about what is the policy committee supposed to be doing so it seems like a charge for the policy committee is appropriate mm-hmm and who is the chair of the policy committee there is none that's kind of odd actually there should be but there isn't one I'm just going to all sit down it seems to me it seems pretty bearable we go I like the idea of looking we'll try to look at all the policies that are out there, what we commonly have and if they're different we're probably going to have some policies in there that are different but the same policies that different work I mean I bet most towns we could propose something that was common looking at all of them and then put it in front of the town so would you be willing to change it's been style over self since the differences I've just been I'm feeling this this is probably going to be pretty easy 99% of cases not a lot of stuff and where I would see the difference I could see maybe one town or a town that might have a policy that the others just don't have for whatever reason it might be based on the I wouldn't see a problem with that I might see a problem that's why I wanted to ask you a conversation about it I guess it depends a little bit on the type of policy but I think that the policies that we have in place are expressions of our collective point of view and intent with how school should be run and how education should be delivered so would say one thing about the policy that we're going to support and people shouldn't have asked what we do and that is to be part of our curriculum I mean, you know, I would be appalled if it's supervising you to say no you cannot have a new program in policy and you cannot make a partner curriculum yeah, I understand you I guess I would just want to I don't know, I mean is the maple sugaring, you know done at the expense of any other thing that's like sort of considered to be critical and you can probably say that for every individually cultural thing that any school develops and say, well, you know, it's spaghetti dinners, I'm trying to match you to be all stunning and that's not a great idea so we're going to just watch your policy of going to and it actually does incorporate, you know, kids go out they measure things they see how this process works so it does incorporate educational aspects but, you know this is not a place where we actually have an opportunity to kind of represent the individual individually in the towns and it really probably has a lot of impact that's something we want to do you know, what people don't like myself included in many others here is that white vanilla not based on the reality of the situation but rather we just want everything to work the same that's not good and situations I mean, I see it at stake but situations change from place to place you know, I understand I kind of with champion, it's a larger discussion than we can possibly have I'm a champion of differentiation and individuality but if it doesn't happen in a context that we know actually what the things we want to have in common and that are to some extent inviolable but we don't know what those are and then individualization and sort of customization is happening just sort of on its own on a mad-hot basis and no one, you know it's up to us to do whatever we want then I think it has the potential to sort of throw a wrench in the years of maybe what we might all want if we actually say that So, to me this the discussion becomes a policy procedure so we'll use the maple sugar thing as an example it's great that Robert Lee does a maple sugar thing and it's important so maybe the SU should have a policy that we all have and I'm making this up it's not the specifics aren't for discussion but we value the natural Vermont environment and we want our students to have an appreciation for the natural environment and schools are expected to integrate into their curriculum you know, outdoor interaction with the natural environment, I don't know and what Romney does so that's the policy Romney's procedures on that policy are we run a sugar house and the students tap the trees and boom boom boom and East Montpelier builds bird's nest puts them in the trees so the policy is across the SU how each the procedures in each community use reflects their individual thing so that's one side of it but to go back to what Chris was saying earlier I think a lot of these if we just ask the policy committee you know take a look at these policies and how many of them are essentially the same thing and there's just a few words different or paragraphs or in different order whatever it is and let's take the easy ones get those and if we can agree to clean those up so they're the same and it just simplifies things that makes it easier makes it more understandable to do those easy ones and then just continue to work from there I agree I guess what I was the question I'm asking is does the policy committee need a charge and if they do should you try to develop one for the community it needs to review the next stage policies or it's you know take a look at some of these questions so we could put it on one of the executive committee I'm probably mindful of time we could add it to an executive agenda with sufficient time I don't think this needs to be answered tonight that was not my point raising it was to get to the discussion that we have going going but I think by the end of the year there's going to need to be a because next year this goes into the calendar and I was talking about it earlier I'll see a lot of work for the policy committee when does that you're trying to see when do you want to do something that Stephen suggested to go with the nail jump on let's use a five year let's make sure that review them within five years so does that the question would be those are obviously staggered you only do so many years so we're going to have more rolling that game Chris does it and I have it but what happens procedureally is that the more policies that are the same the simpler the process is so the policy committee can say this policy is the same across the entire issue it's been five years it's time to review the legislature has said we need to strike paragraph D it's in the law so we're striking paragraph D when it comes to the full board policy committee says we've reviewed the law we've made the recommended changes we recommend that this policy be approved we do a read we do the second read approve it doesn't require the old way we're going to the policy committee we're back to the districts districts had it for a while came back to the policy committee the policy committee member alright I think we've had a chance to talk so what I'm going to say is we added to an agenda in April or May with sufficient time to have a full discussion with the thought of essentially the agenda item what should be charged for the policy committee okay do we have any board orders there should be some no I don't look well what I'm going to do then I'm going to jump to 4.3 while Bill's away if no one objects and go through the financial report on page 7 because Lori's here and they'll usually defer to her anyways so I'll give you the highlights obviously we've changed some of the revenue and expenses for things that pass through here like the state play students and the special education so those didn't affect the fund balance but where I wanted to kind of share some of the good news with you if you look down at the revenues you'll see in March of 2018 there is a projected surplus for purchase discount of $9,575 and what that is is by paying our bus contract according to an earlier term and then we do get additional revenue back for that so the total is $9,500 so far so good more of those kind of things okay so interest income is another way we have generated a projected $7,000 more an interest income than what we were planning on so we've had good cash flow management here and then the benefits you've probably heard about at your school where we pay benefits for district employees and the schools pay us back so that's a wash so no new revenue there because really you'll see the expense down below do you see that? and you've probably had those at your school for shared staff and the other piece that Bill and I talked about updating was back in October 2015 the Act 46 study committee costs were projected to come out of our budget but we had been keeping a $5,000 reserve and based on the last consultant that was hired we are projecting to need $6,000 to cover the cost for that so all total I don't know the vendor name yeah the last facilitation round yes I don't have their name right here in front of me but I can look it up so all total with that additional revenue that is the good news in that spending the fund balance went up $575 from last month and so it's a 2.4% it had been 2.2% we haven't even begun to close down the year yet so obviously I'm hoping the good news continues one of the areas Bill asked me to note over to the left down there is that I haven't shown any savings from the job coaching that we're planning to roll into a future year but it's currently projected at $42,000 for the job coaching budget that we had this year we had a budget of $80,000 and we have about $42,000 that looks like we're going to carry it into next year that means because we didn't hire someone or the principals are working on a plan for its use for next year and so it's like training and professional development as well as some staff Chris if I can interrupt from the floor there's a priority for the executive committee but what we heard this year was there was difficulty implementing in just a straight order so they did it differently and the executive group is working collectively on how they want to make a recommendation to go forward so we're going to just stand it and talk about it okay so sorry about that so we were just covering about coaching and professional development and I would tell you that we're more on track this year we're looking at doing something a little bit we want to have one job or two job coaches we're going to be using it fractionally though but we aren't trying to fill those things so then if you turn the page you will see I'm just going to touch on the highlights because some of you are new we have the office equipment and technology fund where we've tried to budget that over time we don't need to spike our budget for servers etc you'll see the current projected balance is 141,981 at this time you'll see where we're starting to save for the financial system we've been talking about so this year we put away 100,000 and we do have 100,000 in next year's budget as well under the capital fund last month you gave me some feedback and I tried to put that in you'll see over on the notes on the right that we've put in 10,200 for carpet replacement this year the painting project which looks absolutely fabulous and the floor deserves a big kudos for volunteering their time but we've actually paid out 13,000 for that and it's not totally done yet there's still some more work to be done in here etc for a couple more thousand so those are the two big projects in our planned capital budget for this year and last but not least you just asked me to note down below under administrative agent fiscal fee what would those funds be used for and then staff time so did I touch on the notes you gave me for feedback was that clear enough for everybody okay I think Phil just identified that I'll talk to Ann Carr tomorrow because you didn't have a warrant tonight and there was one dated February 21st so I will follow up unfortunately you need to double up next month so if you could put that in minutes I would suggest that you put in minutes that the warrant updated February 21st was not here actually on the 28th I just got it next to me where it was February 28th warrant is here okay so we don't have to do two next month okay I was trying to put it on as a two but we don't have a single month so I think that was the financial update thank you so board orders are going around I'll jump back up to three two do we have any resignations do we have any approval non-renewal for teachers not for teachers I would like to talk to you again executive session this entire group so 3-3 we'll hold 3-3 to Leigh Ann for executive session I'm anticipating it's a personnel matter 4.1 superintendent report Bill's already given a chunk of it I don't know if anyone has any questions or if there's anything additional you wanted to highlight in your report no I mean you've all heard me about kids and kids have been doing I've just been elated I don't know if anyone's heard your views particularly like the U32 yeah I mean I said just really proud I mean Kari I know you were there that night really with Lucy in the way she said this is us it's not the board it's not the adults it's the kids and we have really respect everyone has a diversity of opinion and we know that in our student body and we'll respect that and that was shown yesterday at U32 in a really nice way and they for those who did participate they did and for those who didn't they were in class I got a feedback from Steve last night too he was equally proud on how the students managed it and essentially self they managed the entire class he said they couldn't have been handled with more dignity and more respect regardless of where you fell each group respected the other and they were just everyone kind of got to have their say and their input and participation and it was handled marvelously from Steve as I said at the Cowell's Board this is a reflection of our whole supervisory union education that the students were that well informed and did as you said they're respectful it's really respectful I've been saying you haven't heard me at the Board yet but since U32 I've been saying I was ready to hand Lucy a mic with the other girls name that I showed Shannon a degree right there like you guys have got it you met her mission were you there when another student just came and spoke to the Board for an abolition it was really eloquent yesterday was a really passionate read of a poem and I wish I could remember the girls name but I can't and she did just a tremendous job and but just you know it's showing evidence of our mission being I can't say this correctly but becoming real and I'll say that so the word I had in my head did now since partly these times of driving this this is where the education's showing up it's you know this has caused an effect deviation I think the kids have many thoughts of reacting this way it's good but I've seen it go other ways as well without respecting other's opinion that's the real key to me with our kids is that they're being extremely respectful of each other and know they have a diversity of opinion and that's fine with them and to me is so powerful it's not that they're saying I have an opinion and I want to voice over you it's no I have an opinion and you have an opinion and it's fine if we're different and we should talk about it but we don't need to we need to be respectful of it they've heard me work around doing that from Congress we've seen where it leads it's a lesson it's a lesson in life but it's good to prepare it this way because it's a good job okay moving on to 4.2 that's a lesson in the impact of what we've just heard we need to continue direct with reports on page 6 there's nothing to any questions it seems to me to be organized around standard eye tests that are being given in work groups forgetting them there are a few things that are coming to the federal legislation in Vermont Vermont is probably one of the few states in the nation that if you've heard any of this the nationwide talk it's like the new rule it's pronounced as a by the elementary and secondary school act that things have gotten aren't as restrictive as they were under no child left behind Vermont has never went for a race for the top application because of this it's not as restrictive for us because we not because we didn't go for it but when you went for a race for the top and your state had it you had a lot more regulation put on top of you as a state and with the elementary, secondary and secondary school act it took a great deal that off because we didn't do the first step for the race to the top we're still having to step up because there's more regulation than there was with just no child left behind we were around this table today talking about how things are being tightened a sampling in the assessment side is that Vermont had to identify two other measures two other measures that would be accountability and one had to be a climate measure and so most states had this but Vermont will have a unified climate server that goes out to students and staff and it won't be you can add to it but you have to carry the main questions we have to add a physical fitness we're already doing it and this issue is not a big deal because we're already doing fitness Graham is a local assessment but that is now universal across the state and physical fitness will be a piece of accountability whether you feel that's where it is so there are some pieces those are new assessments and all of you saw the results from our integrated field review there are pieces there that we weren't used to before being assessed every year there will be a quantitative assessment from data that we already sent to the state and then what you saw last year with the integrated field review I've been in three years with a quantitative piece of that as well it means there's there will be a lot more restrictions on use of federal funds and we know they're lowering they're also lowering at the same time and a lot more I think oddity is probably the best word would you say Gloria ensuring that they're being used correctly so there will be a lot more required back office support to make sure and documentation and record keeping of that I think we're trying not to push that on unfunded okay any questions of the directors so I'm going to go back to 3-1 and approve board orders so I'll make a motion and then we'll approve board orders with a total of $411,000 and $29 $26 4-1-1-8-2-9 and 96 okay thank you second discussion those in favor of approving the board order and the amount of as mentioned I think I might say no I propose extensions thank you then I propose at 7-12 we move into executive session to discuss a personnel matter and we you said you'd like Gloria so for everyone else we would ask you to feel free to pack your stuff if I don't