 Sarkaribu, Sarkaribu, welcome back. Vase is still wine in the morning. My name is Brian Sarko, and I'm so excited. This is a fast interview of the day, or a fast guest as well. But before we get too far, let's make an interaction on our socials, and that includes Facebook, Instagram, and on Twitter at wine2fa for underscore channel on the ground, with a blue check mark, with a blue verification, right? Yeah, that's how you can find us on the hashtag Thursday, Vibes still ask wine in the morning at Brian Sarko 101, that's Mines, on all social media, including TikTok. We have a TikTok account if you want to know who's the best dancer at wine2fa for channel. You should be on our TikTok videos, which is wine2fa for channel, yes? Go and follow us, we have amazing TikToks right there. Also today, you just never know who will be dancing as well. My lovely studio with us is a fast guest. She's an amazing, beautiful, gorgeous lady. She's going to tell us about her journey in music. When did she start? What are some of the highs and lows? And how does it feel being an artist, especially in today's music industry? Are there things that have changed? Is there anything that she's also tried to do that's maybe adding value to the industry as well? We'll know in just a bit. We're going to talk to Shania, I almost said Shania Twin or Shania Twin, but no, this is Shania B2, I'm confusing. The American R&B, Shania Twin, but good morning, Shania. Good morning to you too. How are you feeling? I'm good, thank you. I'm fantastic, thank you for asking. Hey, things are moving too fast in this city. But welcome. Thank you. So tell us a little bit about yourself. How did you get to the music? Did it begin from a place of passion? Or did you go to school to learn music? What attracted you towards the musical part of art? At first, I started writing music back in 2013, while still in primary school. Though at that time, I was not presentable in the R&B, but in the R&B. So writing music, I perfected my skills throughout, up to the point I released my first single, 2019. I recorded my first single, I released it in 2020. Okay. So were you influenced maybe to do music because of what you were going through? Amma is because you are talented as a singer, and then you also tell us, did you start training as a vocalist as well? Amma U.S. is just a natural gift, and it started picking up, you know. When I was a kid, I used to sing in churches. Oh, you used to sing at church? Like praise and worship? In Sunday school? Yes, on Sunday. I used to sing a lot. So after my mom passed in 2011, we moved to Nairobi. Thank you. Thank you, we moved to Nairobi. Where I grew up in Nairobi, that's when I feel like I can discover, I can sing and write. Okay. At the time, my mom passed, she had a relationship that close with my other siblings, elder siblings. How many siblings are you and your family? We are 10, but one is late. 10? Oh my goodness. Sorry for the late. Yeah, 10. 10 is a lot. We are 10, I'm the last one. Same dad, same mother. Oh my goodness. We are 10 children. I'm the youngest, and my mom is the dad. Ladies, how many? Ladies and how many? Six ladies, they were four boys, but one is late. Sorry for that. Thank you. So you are like the ninth kid or the eighth? The 10th, the last one. When the last one, wow, wow, wow, that was so beautiful. Yes, so beautiful. So dad took over when mom passed down? When my mom died in 2011, we moved to Nairobi. So I had to live with these siblings of mine. They were very close because me growing up, actually, they were very close to each other and that deep. What happened? Because we have a very huge gap between us. Like, the only person I know who is close to me is my sister. Which is your sister? My sister. But when we moved to Nairobi, it was like eight to eight years, so there was a huge gap between me and my parents. Like, they are married, they have kids, they are older than me. So moving to Nairobi, I felt lonely. First of all, because I was used to my mom so much. I was used to living with my mom and my sister-in-law in Nairobi. So we moved to Nairobi. Living with these other siblings wasn't that easy. Because I don't know them that much. They are my siblings, but they are my siblings now. So I felt lonely. And in the process of feeling lonely, in 2013, I started writing songs. Like, I could express what I feel in writing. Slowly, slowly, like, sometimes I used to talk to my mom in songs. After she passed away? So I just could write, Mom, how are you doing? Evil. And sorry, I got emotional. Pola, pola, pola, pola, pola, pola, easy, easy, easy. So at that time, when I discovered I can write songs, so I used to write songs. And then my elder sister-in-law wrote songs. Like, when I was on a schedule, she wrote songs like they are, as in Sifan, as in Zautoto. So who was telling you that? My elder sister-in-law wrote songs. She's my biggest supporter. Oh, she's your biggest critic and also your biggest supporter. She's the director. She told me, like, this is strong, this is good. You know, and I love it about her. Okay. So at that time, so my songs are also that good. Okay. So when I remember like these songs now, but I gave up, I gave it a break from 2013. I wrote songs like that in 2016. 2016, when I was like, why should I? Three years ago. I was in high school back then, with my best friend there. So when I was in high school, she told me that she had a friend of mine. I liked her. Oh, she was in Form 4, and I was in Form 2. So I wrote this song in English, and then she told me that she wrote songs. What was the name of the song? It was rolling in my mind. Okay. And I said, you can write songs. And she told me that she was very motivated. Right. And she gave me the confidence. So I kind of let her go. Then I transferred school to Macuene from Gong Road to Macuene. Okay. Moving from Nairobi now to Macuene. So I feel like he really strengthened in terms of writing. Because I went to this school, near a local school, and on the part of, like most of the kids, they are campers. Okay. And they are the kids' kids. We were like two. And we were campers. No, not campers. We were all campers. So I felt like I was in Nairobi, and I was eliminated, blah, blah, blah. Oh, that was the perception of Macuene. So then at that time... But I really thought, you know, people from Nairobi were the coolest. Yeah. From my school. But when you do some things, you know what I mean? I love wearing these anklets. Yeah. Like you show to your functionables, you know. So, I thought that these things, because of NMKC, when you are not talking, these things, like you are from a witchcraft background. Wow, wow. But then you got over it. Yeah, I got over it, like within a term. Right. It took me some time, but I got over it. All right. Now, tell us now how your music started being polished. Like, when did you now first get a signing? And where did you get the money to actually start recording now professionally? Because you said your sister was always criticizing and telling you, he's a buyer, he's a poor. Now, at what points did you get polish? Did you go to training? Did you train vocals? No. Any lessons? None. I used to train myself. Like, I could see an artist by, like, Namfatiliya. And I see the way they sing, the way they perform. Like, for example, like... Like, Bane Samdi. I loved Bane Samdi before Acha songs. Like, she's my best. No, she's gorgeous. And Nadia Mokami. She's amazing. Uh-huh. So I was like, I want to write songs. They rhyme me. I need to know how to rhyme this song. This lyrics. So, even... Kind of like, from 3, I was like... Poli poli. My second release. Mkata li, I actually performed 3. Most of the songs... You mentioned the song is? Mkata? Mkata. Oh, Mkata. Mkata was my first release. Does it mean anything? The name? Mkata, yeah. Mpuike. Like... Oh. Mpuike on my pins. Pinsuhili. In short, Desperate. Yeah, in English. Yeah. So, that song was dedicated to you. Was it an experience you had gone through? I was just trying to write music. Like, rhyming. Oh, okay. Then I wrote that song. Like, Technopana, Duneini, the rest. Or, not only Jinamoja, yeah. Okay, are there like maybe versions and styles of writing music? Because I understand, like you said, rhyming is also among them. There's people that do imagery. They try to paint pictures with the words. Like, playing around with what, like, which I believe is a very key component in some writing. Are there maybe things that you consider while writing lyrics? Mmm, the rhyming. The way the song rhymes. Uh-huh. At the, like, So, you're called Ushairi. At the middle and at the end. Oh, his left story is a Mizani. Mizani said you're Mishororo, something like that. Poetry. Like, me wanna for a tillage, so now I'm writing my songs. Okay. Is my song sounding? Like, I feel like when it's rhyming, it's more understandable and it's easy to catch up with. And I love. Right. Because rhyming is really sweet, because you're trying to, like, for example, you're ending with a ha at the end. So this chorus also ends with a ha at the end. I'm screaming. So music is really interesting. But now, as well, now you're writing process. How do you get into that vibe, into that zone where you're now projecting your thoughts, your mind, your emotions, usually what are some of the high-pitched moments for you that you get? Like, if you can't write, if you can't sing, that's when I'm at optimum to write lyrics. Me, I don't decide, I don't decide with time. Like, you can't write this month. I'm at time of the day. At the middle of the night. Me, at the middle of the night, I write something. You can try, you'll try and make for us something, like a freestyle. You do vocals as well. Like the runs, riff riffs and what don't? Not, I don't know much about that. But I just think the only thing I didn't sing it. Yeah, because the runs are like, you know, doing ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I practice on that too. I do practice on that because it helps with the vocals when recording in the studio. Yeah. That's why I said runs and riff riffs. So you'll try and do for us something freestyle to a stand. Now, talk about your latest song, the one that has been played a lot, especially when you're doing media tours. What is it called and what is the story behind it? My latest release, nature, Do Me. Do Me is a love song by Nile Ndika 2021 and I recorded it in 2021, but released it this year. So Do Me is just a love song. It was inspired by the love. The love I felt at some point. You just felt. It's not something that, like you were loved literally. No, I just, I feel like, like, I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I was like As if they said something to me. Like, you were in a relationship and it worked and you're feeling loved. No, I imagine when I was writing that song, I had broken up with my ex. So, it wasn't. It wasn't even about that. But time they were break up with my ex, there was this guy, and by, like, I took a relationship but he was so close and, mmm, I was like, I've met him at a lot of times. So I feel like he inspires that song because I wrote it actually at the Kimjua So in other words it's a dedication, half, half dedication, half to you Which is amazing So for how can people get you your music as you continue? Shenebito, YouTube, Shenebito, Sheneanasco, Instagram, Shenebito, Facebook Everywhere else, Boomplay, Spotify, TikTok, Shenebito Now since you mentioned social media, the digital space has really disrupted the music scene Right now you can be big on TikTok, you can be big on iTunes, Spotify, Deezer and the rest including Taito, owned by Jay-Z Have you made use of such digital platforms? Yeah, the moment I learned about them I started distributing my songs And also using TikTok because TikTok nowadays is like one of the best platforms to get your music heard So you have a manager, management team that does that or you're now still a one-man show? I'm still me You're still you But I think it can be really hard especially when you become a big brand I can imagine like a person for example like Bahati, Dana B, you mentioned Vanessa Like walking, like a standard loan, it can be really hard It's not easy, true So how do you do that? How do you strike balance between I want to upload on iTunes and still go back to YouTube and still keep feedback on Facebook and on Insta And still go do TikTok as an artist Do you have like assistance, help? Yeah, with my like those people that are close to me, my friends And my producer, producer Kay on the beat Like PM Insider San when it comes to easy beat too He's also a manager So sometimes when I go to the kitchen and I ask him to give me a key Even if he's not there, there's also a guy called DJ Infra PM Insider San when it comes to distribution in Alifunza How to distribute my music to iTunes, Spotify, Boom Play He's all about Interesting Also you tell us about your experience in being in the Kenyan music industry And also some of the big artists that you look up to Especially the ones that are overseas And I talked to us about how to shoot a video A video song Or a music video in other words Because I think it was once or twice I passed somewhere that somebody was saying Hey, how can you do that? I was like, hey bro, come on But anyway, story for another day How do you conceptualize a video From concept to a script Now writing the script Now bringing the live action into a music A combination of now edited out films that are running Or cutting some cutters How do you do that? First of all, when I'm recording a song I don't get a studio record I have an idea of what I want So when I'm going to shoot this video I have an idea of what exactly I want in that video So is it written down? It's not an idea and you tell the director Maybe they will just Write a script and shoot the video Alright So how do you now get into action? Because I've seen The one that they wanted me to attend So they did so many texts They did the same texts with different clothes They went to another outfit And then they switched to another set They changed the set They switched down smooth So all that action just for one scene That will run like two seconds That's a lot of work How's yours? For example, in the song Do Me How did you do the choreography? Do Me Do Me You know what I'm saying But it is the same thing as you said There are a lot of shots So that they can have a choice If there is an opportunity Which one is the best So you cannot just shoot at once It's perfect You just repeat through the scenes Maybe if they want Like Do Me The second verse Cannot be The script of the first verse Cannot be the same as the second So Lazy Mo What is it talking about first of all? Let's understand what it's talking about Then to do it The location that is perfect for it I love to share your location Like when you're going to shoot Lazy Mo is the location that is perfect for it Lazy Mo Let the love be felt Within the video I love it We're going to do a video of Karibina and Sidhu Anyways, story for another day But tell us about the industry The Kenyan music industry There's a lot of things that are happening there We've seen Kenyan complain Oh, Sidhu, MCSK Oh, Leipi Pesadanyana For Leipi When it comes to making money Especially Kenyan industry Are you making money yourself? Not yet Why not? Why not yet? I believe it's in the process Hey man What could be possibly wrong? Because everybody who starts something At least when your parent is like You want to do music So you're going to make money, right? Okay, let me give you a start on money Go record your first to your second video But then from there You can start making money Out of the videos you've made What do you think is the problem In the Kenyan music industry? And could you be maybe among the people That will bring solutions? Yeah, I'm maybe the one Yeah, amen What are some of the issues that you think Need to be addressed so that Artists can be recognized They can be paid well They can be booked for gigs Even you as well When it comes to MCSK I can't talk much about it Because you're a user Oh, you've not even registered Okay So I don't know much about it But Boom Play Spotify It just needs a good marketing To any one person And you cannot just earn with one song Or two songs I feel like there's more to it You have to record a good video A good audio If I need marketing visibility Like these interviews We'll go to interviews I believe it a jeep But I can't talk much Because I don't know much about The earning part I started earning But I believe soon Okay, good Talk about a competition For some of the people That you compete with Competition Yes, every business Is a competition And competition is what keeps you in check Even as an artist There's people you look at And they're like, wow Even me too As a media personality I have people that I look at And I'm like one day I want to be there as well But I have to go through the process So for some of the people That keep you in check I need to do something like them To be there I'm looking up to them Not competing with them, right? You can compete them in your head See, I must compete now In real life Like, oh I won't let her draw You're competing with them I admire them I admire them a lot Because of her journey I know she's a big artist And one day a baby I prayed for her For your collaboration With water Now there is One of the people I want to inspire When it comes to Kenyan music industry Like, when it comes to her journey I don't know Even before But in your first hand of her So I don't know I don't know She's one of the most amazing Artists that I know Okay Who else? Some See, she's competing She's super amazing I'm like And when she's competing I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know So Maybe we look up To them But not competing with them We want to be like them But we are not competing with them But anyone at your level Because you know this Levels as well Akina Adasa Ah, Adasa is good Akina Adasa She's also an amazing Amazing artist And Maybe we look up To her Compete Right Who else? Adasa There should be like 10 Fari Atman See When she's competing Mix Water See, she's competing She is I feel like Why she is? She is See, she's amazing She's Nemsuri As in She's writing She's writing And She feels like she's on stage I'm like Like I can compete Okay So you can fit His feature Latino Who's who's that? Is it Latino? Then The new artist Is there Alright Who else? We are like But he does gospel So we cannot compete Alright We are like Kim John He does He does all the dance All the music Okay Okay, that's fine What about airplay? You know As an artist Thank God I'm not one But it's good to be an artist Because music is the universal language And If you want to get to the hearts Of people who went in church Even the Bible says I don't know is it? David used to play a harp Right And on that song I had those A song that David played And it pleased the Lord anyways Music is the universal language And Being an artist You want to be marketable You know When somebody meets you They're like I like the brand I like the personality I like what you stand for But then later on You tell us what We'd like people to know you for In the industry Have you received enough Airplay Especially when it comes to radio And TV Because then Again that goes back to Distribution Do you feel like Artists in Kenya Getting enough airplay And radio, TV Even podcasts as well Even DJs at the club No Not that much Like See you can only complain To people They don't know the journey But I feel like They're valuing They're outsiders more No Outsiders like The Nigerians Like Yes Nigerians Like the Tanzanians Right But I feel like Guy I feel like I have to chase with his story Like I'm an upcoming artist You can't say to me DJs shouldn't chase me Like this song This is my song I tell them to stop And tell them to mix And they won't You feel me I make M4 to Mendo Mungalash Like Sometimes we even beg Yeah You make that effort like this Hit song Because the hit song The Nigerians And the hits are not from Kenya And the Tanzanians I don't know why Right And I feel like We have good music I listen to it Yeah At Fortilewistana Like Legzel I listen to EP Like An amazing EP Yeah Legzel The one who was Was signed to Ortele Browns Like it's an amazing EP I listen to the album I listen to Ben Sol Yeah It's an amazing album But they're getting airplay That people have mentioned Legzel Not yet that much You feel like he's not getting enough Yeah Legzel I feel like he's a big artist He's not getting much But Ben Sol Yeah Ben Sol is a part of it Yeah And Romano Do you feel like When you attach yourself To a big brand Like the Ben Sol you mentioned Ben Sol Ketambu In fact he used to sing along I remember some point He featured on Heart of the Bund On a certain song That was still amazing Do you feel like As an artist in Kenya You have to attach yourself To people that are already established To maybe hold your hand Or you need a shout Or even from a big Radio producer Or TV producer Or even a music producer For you to You know get that traction In this space As compared to Like just being A one man A one man show Like you are Maybe Do you feel like it's necessary Like the producers Maybe the big producers And the TV producers And radio producers But when it comes to Recording like Recording producer I feel like Come on I'm Kali The song will Ita hit Ita gongon anela Like kuna songon aske Gamal naske O producer ni mkali Atakama ni amkali ni mkali Anela But it could be Like TV Producers And radio producers And I feel like You need to attach yourself You need to communicate And join You know maybe Are you going to Interviews Yeah Yeah plays Yeah Good We had mentioned about Doomy This is the Doomy video Yeah Alright In total how many videos Two so far But I didn't issue A video Oh yeah What happened Financial Financial issues Don't worry Talk to us about this I feel like It's an amazing video You look different In the video as well So what is the concept Behind this video And what's going on Concept everything I feel like Is that a story Because I see this Gentleman on a bicycle And then There you go And then you hug him So what is this story Is it a love story It's a love story Like I'm singing to this guy The way I minimally is Aha Okay Okay Okay So What are you telling him I'm watching him Like He's a Vixen so Oh he's a Vixen Okay And then He's afraid to tell us first He's afraid to tell us first Because To To engage in something Like we are communicating With this love of yours When you remember When you want to feel Aha Right Okay Oh why was this video done It was done On the top On the top Okay How much did the producer Charge And video director Who's also the video director For this Video director K. Bram K. Bram from Marima Pictures Aha He's an amazing director Aha When I was working on this song Aha So Actually If the video was sponsored by Marima Pictures Okay Sponsored Okay Then I went to the location Okay The Vixen And Yeah The The cash Transport And everything Okay Because I'm based in Nairobi Oh So you had to travel to Costa Hmm So who are some of the people That were supportive In this Marima Pictures First of all Aha The director Marima Okay Director K. Bram My sister Phyllis Okay Shout out to her My friend there My BFF Okay And My producer K. On the beach Okay Hmm Who did the audio mastery K. K. On the beach Yeah Okay Right So As we close it up on this I'm not forged the other song though But you'll still talk about it And the story behind it How much did this cost now To put out all these edits When it comes to location Yeah Hmm This is your other song I got 10 10K When it comes to location Vixen Even But Shooting Which was sponsored by Burima So Okay This is also another song Hmm It really looks good though It looks good So This was my first video You also look different As well In the video Because of the makeup maybe Aha So what is the concept What is the storyline Polepole The inspiration The song is called Polepole Aha So who is it dedicated to Polepole Was it a self-education Was it an event That happened to you Polepole is actually So close to my heart You can hear it Aha Because this song When I moved to Makueni Yeah From Nairobi The song wasn't actually The verses are the same But the chorus is the same Okay So It's a diss track at first Hmm It was a diss track Hmm When they come back It's like Polepole Two Polepole Polepole Two Polepole Polepole Two Yeah So Like I was telling them When they come back I'm moving on Right Hmm But if you have time To record We have to change the verses Aha Because it's like It's a diss track It's something like a love song Aha So I wrote the song To kind of studio Aha I could be a big I could be a producer Then here to make the beat There To kind of care The verses Hmm When was this out? Hmm It was out 2021 But I recorded the song 2022 I recorded and I released it 2021 And the video was shot 2021 Okay Yeah Right I can see you have your friend There you're talking So I don't know if you can just Take us through Oh, that's your sister Or not your friend So how this event's unfolding I see you're speaking to this At the Ponson And then there's a guy there Then there's you There you are This story Aha The script was written by Uboomba Uboomba's magic Ah The script The story talks about Who, them Like There's these people Who have a relationship They love each other They love each other Oh So I'm trying to tell them What about my haters Hmm I'm trying to tell them I don't know who they are I'm moving on We are good And the business is doing well Yeah So we are good Yeah Okay And there's a gentleman Right there Some That's the Uboomba now Pineapple That is even the guy now Oh So he's part of everything Yeah Nice You know, sometimes people just don't know It's like when you're on a TV show But you're still the producer Because at the same time You're a host Also on radio it happens Interesting Interesting So are we Are we going to see A lot of collabo's Maybe from you Are there people on the list Are there people that you're reaching out Even in the DMs You're trying to make calls Nini nini Hopefully soon Yeah I don't know if it's going to happen But there's a song Like I feel like Yeah It should be Super amazing But he had mentioned stories of Established artists Charging Yeah So you'll definitely Have to pay him Yeah You can't just go to somebody And be like You can't find a song Right But you're an artist Why not support another You know We are also in the business You're charging another Another businessman To do business with you A big brand A big brand When they are to like Could get funny songs Maybe And as a kubalif They are willing But I feel like Como apreciate Is good Right Yeah True Because that can be really hard I can only imagine You know The struggles you have to go through As an upcoming artist You're not being played You don't have so many people That give you feedback And here you are You have to pay somebody To just even feature On that track Which I feel like is a bad thing What happened to people loving each other And embracing You know Arts I feel like as we are Loving each other And releasing music And doing what we love best We also In the business industry So Who is he Like I told you He says he doesn't know how to approach At the same time He doesn't know how to interview And they They They try These organizations Are not paying you I assure Because you're using your time Big time You're coming To me I'm a dog I'm a dog So sometimes I feel like When I make an effort To have children They're not paying me Right They're not paying me To appreciate Right But then There's also been an outburst Or an outbreak I love the Mion Dogwa I'm still Almost But then I'll do a tiktok Of the Mion Dogwa challenge When I was there The way they come up With dancing styles Nowadays there's a lot of Things are evolving very fast Tomorrow There'll be somebody else Trending with the dancing style The next day There's a song That also goes With the dancing style Now how do you keep up With these trends Especially on tiktok now When I'm on dog course You can Then there's Waka Denali And then there's Brooklyn Boys Would you love to do I collab with Brooklyn Boys I don't know If you've ever heard of them Have you heard of them I've met them They're amazing artists Yeah Maybe in the future Okay I would really like To work with them In the future Now how do you keep up The dancing trends In music There are so many So many Like the dancing trends The dancing moves The tiktok challenges The what are they called The reflexes And the remixes For you How do you keep up Because I know it can be pressure That can be pressure A lot of pressure When you release What any pressure Because me I'm not that good Of a dancer You'll have to You'll have to sense You're in the music space I love dancing Moving But some people Dancing It's always You can move But you're not dancing The way they want it So But you believe you will grow As time goes by Yeah I believe so But I believe in practice It can be perfect Yeah, true Who are some Let's say some outside Foreign artists That you look up to You love them Yeah It could be in R&B It could be in Nigeria Let's say in Nigeria Who's the best Nigerian Ayrusta Why Ayrusta I knew Ayrusta Would feature in there He's so amazing Like Her writing Her voice Her Moves Comvidious Like Nappenda too Okay Ayrusta Who else Tewa Like I was a kid Tewa's an amazing artist What is the first song You heard about Tewa That you listened to That you listened to Don Jersey Like Don Jersey with Koro de Bello Aha Dorobuchi or something Is it Dorobuchi Yes It's called Dorobuchi That one Okay Who else Who else now from Female to male Before we get to Overseas now Melle Nigerian artist Since you said you love Nigerian Not Tanzanian even Hey, Tanzanian I mean my grown excuse Abongo Aha Who are some of the best That you love Growing up I think it's the Kiba Okay The Kiba guys Kiba is good But with time I was listening to the Diamond That's the Diamond Plant Nums I was wondering Who else is coming Who else is like They are so amazing Like Maby Maby Who else Is it I don't know What about J Melody Yeah, J Melody is amazing too But J Melody is your I feel it's your upcoming She used to write songs She used to sing with Nandi Oh Nandi Like you mentioned Nandi is also dope Nandi Nandi They are amazing Right You will tell us in Kenya Pia Overseas and then Tarudi Overseas Kula Stato Jamaica and the rest Amov Africans You can name it But me Amov Local But Pia I just listened to it I thought But Gal Riri Will feature somewhere It's amazing But you can name Amov Local Like the Nigerians Tanzanians Ugandan Kenyans But they are also amazing Artists from overseas Right What about Penayakukwanz Arti, who is that Penayakukwanz Two Two I thought you also mentioned Beyonce Temps Temps is good Temps is good as well I think they go From Indonesia Temps Tiwa Savage Ayrusta Yeah, Tiwa Savage as well Yeah They are really doing well Let's get back to Kenya When you know a rank son In terms of vocal Are you I don't know Is Nanyu Mukami Vocally perfect? I feel like Sanaipi Temps is good Hey, Sana Sana is good I told you like You cannot compare Nadia with Sanaipi Hey Sanaipi is Legend Like, she's amazing Her vocals Her writing She's amazing Jovio Jovio vocals You love Jovio Her vocals Like Kwanzaa When it comes to vocals Vocals Hey, Jovio Yeah In Kenya That's this chick She's a very good friend She She studied in the state On her tour Xenia Manasa You had her And she sang in a guitar In Rumba, Japan The chick was doing vocals For Rumba, Japan With Sauti So Yeah, she's dope In fact, she featured She featured on Cardi B's song As a co-writer That chick Xenia Maybe I know her by name But Maybe I know her by face Okay Her parents Right, she's good Yeah Please reach out I'll reach out on your behalf And see if you guys can meet Hopatakubal As we wind up hopefully What would you like People In the industry To know you for Because I understand Like you said Music evolves People grow You grow, you change You mature Apple, so you're writing Because as you grow up What do you think Kenyan people Especially in the Kenyan music scene They should know you for What you stand for What you represent Your personality In music Mm-hmm Yeah So Xenia is a singer-songwriter And maybe a poet Because And I do Afrozuk Afrozuk I got stuck there Afrozuk What does it mean Because I've heard of Afropope Afrobeat I'm yet to hear Afroma piano Mm-hmm But I'm stuck there What is Afrozuk Afrozuk it's like Afrobongo Or Afrobongo Mm-hmm So it's a mixture Of what and what Mm-hmm Afrobongo is a mixture Of what and what exactly Like Mm-hmm Zook Is a mixture Of R&B And bongo Oh, wow Mm-hmm So Afrobongo I feel like I mix And define music Because I'm Afro-Heli Because It's a mixture Of Kenya And bongo Mm-hmm So it's Afrozuk So it's a vibe R&B Type soul Mm-hmm But then It's like It's like Oh, nice I feel like It's like It's like It's like It's like Boring two genres Fusing them together And It's like It's like It's like It's like I don't want to be born. I don't want to be born because of the Swahili. I don't want to be born. I don't want to be born because of the Swahili. But can you sing along and give us some few vocals since you're a vocalist? Please do it. This is the time. As you look in the camera, you're going to play it in the background for her.