 Welcome to the ITU studio in Geneva for the occasion of the Global Symposium for Regulators GSR 2018. I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio today by Mr Guido Glushka, who is co-director of the Institute for Security and Safety, ISS, at the Brandenburg Institute of Applied Sciences. Mr Glushka, thank you very much indeed for joining us in the studio today. Yes, thank you very much for the invitation. Now I'd like to start off by talking a little bit about your part of a panel discussion this morning. Your conversations this morning, perhaps you could share with us a little bit. I know there was very much focusing on AI and IoT and cybersecurity. Why is this global dialogue important? So this global dialogue is important because it's an international development. The whole societies worldwide are affected by what happened in the process of digitalization. All IoT devices are globally used, are globally connected. And the thing we have to think about is triad, which is on the one hand IoT device producing big data. This data is used by AI and AI is producing or making decisions and making predictions on what we have on and how IoT devices are reacting. So this whole triad is by today done internationally by companies who are producing this data or collecting this data by devices which are produced worldwide and they have to interconnect. That's an international approach. And in terms of cybersecurity, what should governments and regulators be focusing on? So the Russian president said a while ago, whoever wins in AI will rule the world. So I think this sentence frames the discussion a little bit. So we need of course discussions by regulators, by nation states, how far this goes if military civil use is part of this discussion and part of this use of AI. And so from that perspective, we need to more just take a whole approach on the discussion in AI, IoT and big data. And what about consumers and just the general public itself, civil society? In terms of the fact that we are adopting more and more technologies that our houses are becoming more and more connected, what should we be most concerned about? What should we be worrying about? And what should we be looking forward to? So I would say the most relevant part is education. So knowing if you buy a device, what is it doing? How does it influence me? Does it watch to what I'm doing or not? So it's really easy to buy something which is cheap, but not knowing what this device is doing is one of the major concern. And where the data is going to, who's collecting my data, who's analysing my data. And that is by today a very complex business model, driven by industry, not by nation states. I mean, it's quite a sort of dark environment at the moment, perhaps where people are most concerned about, and say obviously the eavesdropping element, but there is this trade-off essentially where if I can just talk to my speaker and say play me something that I'd like to hear or something along those lines, of course there's something very nice about that as well, if it gets it right. But perhaps we should be more concerned along those lines and thinking a little bit more, as you say, about who might be listening into our conversations and our demands and our requests. Yes, and the question is what is the responsibility of technology providers, what is the responsibility of us, of everybody of us, when buying something, when using something, when even placing a device into my home. And I would say there are a lot of beneficial elements in it, but also you can see that as a risk or as a chance. But it's on your decision and your responsibility, how to use it and whom to give the data to. Is regulation the answer though? Because in terms of, for example, we've just had all sorts of new regulations put in about collecting information when we're tapping on a website or the way that people are emailing us. But nowadays we're so much inundated with choices here that perhaps a lot of us are just literally going okay, accept, accept, accept, whereas before we might not even been accepting, but now we're pressing accept just to get to that information. Yes, so from that point of view I would say regulation could help. It's definitely not the answer. It could help protect people from probably companies, business from inner-dequart behavior of websites, of devices on the one hand. On the other hand, it's a business-driven element. IoT is not developed or the whole cybersecurity is not developed by nation states. It's developed by industry. So a nation state looks typically to the nation states and their interest. And I'm pretty sure that regulation is not the answer because then you have national interests and what we need is an international focus, international interest. What is the interest of all the people in the world, of society? They're probably related to UN sustainability goals. What about a more positive end to this discussion? What about a warmer globe? Perhaps have you discovered some of the more positive elements in your research? So what I'm thinking is that there is a couple of dialogues started. The IT dialogue is a very important element in that. As far as I know at UN there will be again a start of UNGGE or a cybersecurity dialogue end of this year. And I would say we have to think globally and there have to be initiatives which help people to understand how to deal with these new technologies and how to use it. So should we be optimistic for the future then? Yeah, we should be optimistic and responsible when using that. Well, thank you very much indeed for being with us in the studio and sharing these insights with us. We look forward to catching up with you hopefully again at another GSR and wish you the very best of luck with the rest of your research. Thanks a lot. Thank you. And do tune in to all of our other social media at ITU YouTube channels and ITU SoundCloud channel as well. And we look forward to being able to respond to your questions as well on ITU social media. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks very much.