 Welcome to JSATV, the newsroom for tech and telecom professionals. I'm Jamie Scato-Cutia here at International Telecoms Week with my friend Nigel Bailiff. He is the CEO of Aquacoms. Nigel, thank you for joining us here on JSATV. No problem. Very pleased to be here. Now, when you're talking Aquacoms, it's really two separate networks where you've got AE Connect and then the Celtics Connect. Yeah, that's right. Right now we have two cables which we combine to make one network and in fact we're planning on adding two further cables this year so we'll be, you know, the entire network is designed to carry traffic from North America to Europe and the more dense we can get connected into the European mainland, the better. So we're building a couple of cables at a second Celtics Connect which will just take a diverse route to get our customers traffic over onto mainland of the UK and then from the northeast of the UK over to Denmark, which is actually a hotspot for, you know, internet connectivity and data centers. It sure is. So what makes these cables really unique to the marketplace? Well, I think the Atlantic, if you know the Atlantic market for submarine telecoms then it's had a very strange history. So around about 15, 16, 17 years ago, there were seven or eight cables all built at the same time and this was the dot-com boom time. So there was a disruption in the market. A lot of cables came onto the market at much reduced rates because through bankruptcy and low price acquisitions, they disrupted the pricing model. And what that meant is no cables been built across the Atlantic for about the last 15 years until Aquacom's, HiBurnia Express and now recently Mireya came along. And so the model around the rest of the world is typically every five years, two new cables to meet up with the demand. The Atlantic is the busiest market in the world. And so we've seen nothing for 17 years and now three very, very high capacity cables, 180, 190 terabits of capacity, which is almost enough to carry all of the capacity of all of the older cables. So the high tech nature of these cables, the fact that we've spread them around across the Atlantic base and you've now got one landing in Ireland, one landing in the UK, one landing in Spain and potentially one landing over the top into Scandinavia means that you have this diverse path of connectivity between the big powerhouse economic and areas of North America and Northern Europe. Yeah. So looking at that, well, not landscape, seascape. Yeah, seascape. And you mentioned Mireya, which is Microsoft, Facebook's joint cable. What type of network operators are attracted to these networks? Exactly those guys. So, you know, we have Facebook, Microsoft and all of the other, you know, internet content players and the tiers below that, the tiers two and three in that space and the carriers. So we run a model of precisely a carrier's carrier. It's, you know, we supply services to people who take those services and add them on to endpoints or take them to end user customers. We don't, you know, play in IP services. We don't play in the packet networks. We simply provide connectivity across the oceans between two continents. We put our capital into the water and then look at 20 or 30 year returns on that. So the people who are facilitating or defining where the new connectivity goes are indeed those big players, the big five internet content players and, you know, Mireya, as you mentioned, I mean, that's actually Tilexius, you know, Telefonica's capital ownership arm. You know, Hibernia is now owned by GTT and we're actually a bit unusual because we're the only independent. So we're the only ones owned purely by, you know, capital funds, long-term infrastructure funds, which means if we talk to people dense inside Europe, you know, metro network providers, it's kind of an easier conversation because we're not trying to do the same thing as them. We're not trying to sell to enterprises in Düsseldorf. We're just carrying them across the ocean. So we have a kind of clean relationship with all the whole market, really. Yeah, that's a nice sort of neutral zone to be playing from. Yeah. So I like to ask this question when I have CEOs such like yourself sitting in my little hot seat over here, looking into your crystal ball. What do you see going on in the next year for Aquacomps? Well, I mean, we've announced that we're going to build Celtics Connect 2 and North Sea Connect. I think that furthering that entire push into densely connecting the end of this enormous cable that comes into Ireland down into mainland Europe in several ways to get diversity and resilience for the customers that trust us to carry the services across the Atlantic, along with the stuff over on the on the eastern seaboard, you know, trying to potentially position our cable in some of the more neutral carrier data centers, 1025 Connect, NGFX, to not necessarily to avoid Manhattan because Manhattan is a place where we will deliver some traffic, too. But it's really to try and make a mesh with all the other cables, provide resilience, provide connectivity and and and just enhance the end points of our cable. Well, I'm sure Dan and Gil, respectively, would be very excited to hear this and and many of us, especially along the east coast, very exciting news. So for our viewers who want to learn more, where can they go? They can go to our website, www.aquacomps.com. Lots of good information there, resources. We're a very open company. You know, we'll tell you everything that we're doing. We'll tell you about our performance and good or bad and and we'll, you know, be happy to carry you from North America to to Europe. Well, thank you, Nigel, for joining us and being so gracious with your time and insight. Thank you, viewers, for tuning in to JSA TV. Happy networking.