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Yeah.- Yeah, 因為我其實就是發給你們很久了然後,呃,我現在有這個項目- I want to get some feedback然後其實這是關於台灣的年輕人所以呃,這個也是我已經算是努力的一陣子一個progressive process- That's right.- I'm discovering myself and what I should do kind of for Taiwan to going forward所以呃, maybe I'll just share with you some of the things- Yeah, of course, because I have the website here- Oh, perfect, ok, thank you呃,那可能會, I just kind of give you a history- Yeah, of course, of course,- It's kind of a progression呃,我的公司叫TalonBasket呃,現在我們是一個for profit company- But I like to believe we're a very social mission driven- Sure, sure, sure呃, so really today- I think the mission for what we're trying to do- is to empower sustainable economic growth- as global human capital那,其實我當初十三、四年前創業的時候,我就是- Just really have a simple idea就是那時候在大學就是,誒,看到一個- Alibaba.com- That's right, yeah- Oh, ok, thank you, you read it, yes呃,因為那時候其實阿姨爸爸也台大四、五年然後就說,誒,其實呃,因為我小時候是看我爸就是他是做生意嘛然後就常出國我就就說,誒,最近是對這種- Global culture- Fascinated- That's right- And I moved to the US- I was 16- But anyway, long story short- I just have this fascination on global culture-那我就覺得說網路是一個可以- Connect the world of vehicles- 這是我那時候其實- I'm not an engineer- I'm really just kind of- have this idea, right- But, long story short呃, we did a lot of different things- 但現在我就是大概今年又開始- 真正做一個新的這個平台的 business- Then, yeah- I really have this new mission- on connecting the world again- In a very different context- 那其實呃,過去以來我活其實這個- 關島- 對,我有看到- 對- 想說- 為什麼會有關島- I'll bring you to呃,其實也蠻rand因為其實我當初最開始為什麼有這個名字是那時候創業是有一些大概在Boston的時候然後那個時候就有一些那個印度的夥伴- 那時候大概2008年07年- 那時候- IT外包還有點- popular- I'm not an engineer- 所以我需要一個 co-founder- 就找到一些印度人- 在印度- 然後那時候就開始我的 journey of this- global travel- 那那個時候其實本來- 有一個 simple idea for Taiwan- 本來就是幫美國的公司- 去 hire engineers in India- Sure- So we build this recruiting website- 然後後來我就很 excited- 我就搬到舊金山上- OK, this is gonna work- 因為那時候就- 剛好也是 some kind of crisis- 所以我想說很多公司可能要 cut costs- 對- 結果我搬到稀古之後發現- Nobody do that- People- Just use the link startup- And then just iterate the process所以那時候其實- 就跟以前都不一樣- 而且是一次100個工程師- 是是是- 後來發現那也不是 trend- 結果我那時候就開始好吧- 那我為了要賺錢- 我就開始就做- 我一直會做的就是做一些行銷- I'm always like a marketer- So- I started this mini agency- 其實我自己是自由經驗- 但是- 我沒有意義- 開始一個市場的公司- 但最後我開始進行公司- 那為什麼會關到- 因為第一年我就做這個- 所謂的社交媒體市場的時候就- 很懷疑- 因為我接不到什麼課- 然後就- 就一個人在那邊亂做這樣- 結果- 最後我真的要休息- 當我開始去看- 政府的社交媒體- 在美國的時候- 所以我的第一次- 我跟美國聯邦聯邦聯邦聯邦- 那個時候是- 你知道那時候是歐巴馬- 這個人在美國- 社交媒體- 變成了一條路- 所以很多- 那時候美國的- 國際政府想了解- 怎麼是做這種- 兩邊聯邦- 所以我就開始- OK- 就標到一個案子- 然後就幫他做企劃- Awesome- 然後就說- 這是真的好- 所以我就開始做那個- 我就做另一個社交媒體- 結果就放光- 結果關到的時候- 觀光局也是想要做一個這種- 交流- 對- 但他是針對8派市場- 因為大部分去觀導遊客- 都是在台灣、日本- 所以我就說- OK- 然後我再次想- 因為是2 for 2- 我就飛到觀導- 然後我就開始這個很長的旅程- 工作在那裡- 過去10年- 對- 但是因為那裡- 我就開始學習- 學習這個 idea of- 社交媒體的- 社交媒體的- 社會和管理- 然後我真的開始- 很多旅遊工作- 和觀光局工作- 過去10年- 那大概也是在這幾年- 我就開始覺得說- OK- 我開始變成- 旅遊成員- 至少可以養的活動- 肯定- 一個小小生意- 6- 對- 幾個人- 真是- 但是- 但是我感覺- 這是我的原本的目標- 為社交媒體- 因為我本來就是想要- 比較像平台的東西- 然後- 同一時間的話- 我們做很多旅遊的這種- 發展- 所以我本來是- 非常普通的旅遊- 比較遠的海洋- 在馬尼西亞- 或者是去- 爬爬紐基尼- 旅遊- 北京- 所以- 我就開始跟那邊很多的大學生- 就是說- 這是一種旅遊發展- 但是就是- 做一些訓練- 提供如何使用社交媒體- 去提供自己的旅遊- 因為他們可能要就是有- 旅遊是一個- 一個很好的旅遊- 為那些國家的旅遊- 所以- 所以我就去教這些東西- 就跟一些協會跟NGO配合- And so the process- 然後他們就說- 其實很多這些學生- 他們想要找的就是 like- Intention- 對- 所以我就說- OK- But obviously you know- It's quite hard for you to get an Intention- Over the seas- Especially from like- 像印度或是菲律賓- 所以- 我說你有沒有興趣就做 online- 因為其實我們自己也都是- 做很多 online- 約會- 演劇- 對 我們本來工作是很- 非常- 所以說那有沒有可能- 就是Virtual Intention的概念- 其實- 那時候是去年開始- 然後就覺得說- 欸這其實可以喔- 就是- Maybe I can design something- OK 平寬- 對對對- 就是這些Emergency mind- 他們是不錯- 那我也就是很習慣這種反應- 就過去幾年都是- Very virtual working- 所以我會說- OK- Why don't I think about this as a- 想要創造- Virtual Workspace for Intention- 然後後來就- 其實那是 pre-COVID- And then- And then it just happened to be this year- when we launched the platform- COVID happened- So the school shut down- 然後就開始- Becoming quite a hard trend- 所以就這樣慢慢- Yeah, we were built for this- 呵呵呵- 超前部- 有一點- OK- 那那個時候其實就是- 但後來我也開始- 就比較探索說- What is the meaning of doing all this- Right- 那就我就開始想- 欸其實這個- Use on employment- Is quite a rising issue- That's right- 嗯- And how can I- So my platform- Really was this idea- Creating the digital workforce- for the future- But social innovation- This is this one- 也算是- 因為我們發現其實- 如果我們用自行技術- 那其實- 他們可以做很多不同的事情- 沒錯- 他們可以幫助很多人- 那是對的- 還有一件事是說- 開始點- 但可以做一些- 資料的資料- 在技術上- 而且真的- 要有資料- 就有不同的- 表現、學習- 所以就漸漸開始覺得- 欸這可能會是一個- 一個新的方向- 對- 那其實我們也就覺得說- 基本上就是- 也要利用資料增加- 那當然現在來說- 可能就是- 這是新的方向- 正在互相討厭- 然後在自行技術上- 還有全球- 其實也很難- 其實是在自行技術上- 所以- 那我就覺得說- 有一個這樣的- 一個領域可以接觸- 那- 那我們也是想說就是- 但後來也是就做做做- 就是我們開始這條路- 就很簡單地- 創造自行技術- 但後來我們就發現- 除了這個技術- 要做好- 我們需要訓練- 所以我們開始這條- 訓練程式- 在週末- 因為就說- 當然我們沒有那麼多資訊- 要繼續提供資訊- 所以我們做什麼- 就是我們邀請一些- 更多的體驗- 來訓練- 就說- 學長自己- 學長自己- 所以就變成了- 還有什麼- 其實就是- 就是- 因為我們的社群- 很全球- 也有很多文化- 所以就變成了- 變成了- 一個很有趣的地方- 讓人們分享- 以不同的角度- 我們就一起工作- 基本上是一件事- 所以就是- 就是蠻有意義的- 那接下來就想說- 可以成為一個比較長期的- 這種- 差不多像是- 技術- 技術- 組織- 某種程式- 但- 要用技術去探索- 那這些是我們- 所有的大學- 我們做了- 公司- 公司- 例如- 營館和網絡- 所以大概- 過去8個月- 我們是17個學校- 從不同的國家- 和教育不同的學生- 這就是我們設計的- 這是我們設計的- 我們的團隊是非常重要的- 所以這也是我- 我現在在思考- 因為我現在在台灣- 我兩年後回來- 總之我不想- 給你這個工序- 沒關係- 沒關係- 就是說- 我從來沒有- 因為是我的外國朋友- 學生的工作在中國- 所以我們就沒有在廈門- 廈門- 喔 廈門- 他在外國- 在外國廈門- 對 對- 因為我那時候是兩年前- 本來他跟他搬到廈門- 不好意思- 因為她是專業設計- 所以她要搬到菲拉- 她是創業的導致- 無論如何- 我一定會給妳搬回來- 所以我就搬回來- 不好意思- 不會要把它追回來- 我就是- 去廈門- 搬來搬去- 後來要在那邊開公司- 聽起來很像電影劇- 對 對- 但我其實還沒有進去- 現在大陸沒有很多那種- 什麼兩岸的那種- 對 對 對- 然後我就後來就是那個- 新年代的年輕人- 但是之後後來我還沒有進去- 北京大學- 他們只是在公司- 但我從來沒有- 被大家講屬性- 對 對 在廈門- 對- 然後後來- 後來也因為機緣- 反正大陸那邊也被開了- 但是- 但是後來也是- 因為分手就搬回臺- 結果我就兩年- 這兩年大概就- 以前都是大概一半時間- 在舊金山一半在臺灣- 現在就是風灘在臺灣- 然後這兩年- 尤其是這幾年- 我都沒有旅行過十多個月- 是我的長時間在臺灣- 過去二十多年- 所以我就覺得說- 怎麼能讓臺灣- 新的國際社會- 從臺灣來的- 因為我覺得臺灣本來就是一個- 它是一個- 無人的地方- 它是個非常- 非常有趣的地方- 沒錯- 怎麼能讓臺灣- 從臺灣來的- 非常有趣的社會- 其實在臺灣- 人們都想到- 我們可以做到- 雖然我們沒有國際的概念- 但是- 我可以讓臺灣- 建立一個- 非常有趣的國家- 如果我們能成為- 或是我們能成為- 沒錯- 對,所以我也是想說- 怎麼樣讓- 當然我現在在想- 就是我可以讓臺灣- 建立一個國際社會- 讓臺灣- 成為一個國際社會- 現在我的國際社會- 在澳洲- 我們有二位- 建立一個國際社會- 所以我們開始- 建立一個國際社會- 臺灣的領導人- 他是一個- 建立一個國際社會- 建立一個國際社會- 他住在馬來西亞- 我住在臺北- 他住在臺北- 跟我一起- 貨品在韓國- 但他住在北京- 他就在加拿大- 她住在馬來西亞- 所以她住在- 賣點- 賣點- 非常印度特斯特- 對,所以我住在- 還有在亞洲- 很好- 還有我們有- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些- 建立一些School is still doesn't have that much in the structure anyway for initiating all of thisSo essentially, in the future, we're thinking to build this kind ofintention program in cloud, whereessentially we're trying to provide like a Google gradeintention, not for any businessThere is a system down to the bottom對對對那, I'll show you a quick videoif you might find it interestingand I'll show you some actual systemto get some feedback這個是我們學生自己做的It's a really nice loadThank you非常有便攜度這個字This is a digital talent company of global citizensWhat we do iswe strive to provide economic opportunityfor global workforceto empower them to the power of digitaland we have a community of global talentswho come together to promote global culturesand we do so to advance the sustainable developmentof global communitiesThank you very much所以想說也透過這些教學慣屬於一些sustainable knowledgefor the future workforceSo these projectsSo at the moment, I'm working on late generationI'm working on deciding socialSo a lot of what I do with hope is forsustainable focus to connect with the spiritual ideasWhere is America?Do you know why you're staying here?This is a phase-old research, isn't it?It's a job hereIt's a really importantI'm working on developing a marketing strategyfor makerhardsso that they can enter Amazon hereSo I joined the talent marketcommunity because I wanted to apply my careerto the knowledge that I've appliedin my university degreeto real-blood experiencebecause I'm just graduatingand I'm working on my ownexperience in real lifeSo I'm just going withhow fast can you come into the teamto work,experience in real lifeI joined the talent market communitybecause I was in need of internshipand behind the release of COVID-19in the end of 2020was the hardest gamebecause of this, I'm just having a chancefor not taking up internshipsor impression agentsI joined the talent market communitybecause I wanted to be ableto implement the skillsI was learning in the classroomand for internshipand also being alone at this timeI think my favourite thingabout talent basketis working with an international teamMy favourite thing isI get to work with clientsin real lifeMy favourite thing abouttalent basketis that everybody isreally friendlyand really easy to talk toMy favourite thingabout talent basketis how easy it wasto apply the quick response timeTo believe in yourselfand constantly work hardthe TV communitywould be yourif you strive to learn and growSo join our communityto see how much you can transformgo to talentmask.comand apply for internshipsWe have many many opportunitiesmeeting for youYeah, so that's kind of astudent videoThat's pretty goodYeah, even we realizethey really need this very realwork situationThat's kind ofhow does itsimply apply for a companyThis company might not have the capacityor management resourceto train and develop those internsSo we basically create those layersofintention management for the companySo for the sponsoring companythey don'twe structure the program for themand we recruit the best studentsand in some way wecoach the students through the processSo it's really aand we design our virtual internshipon a three month basisSo it's really a kind ofa microintention learningand it's part timeSo if a student wantthey can take multiple jobsat the same timeand then there's likea peer coaching system to designdesign for slash chiefsYeahYeahSo this is our actual system但現在還是蠻protype就是就是So the entire time commitment它是就是要 commit 多少時間大概就十五小時一個禮拜Oh that's a light weight對對對所以還算還行但是So we typically put a team of threetogether in a projectSo there's two team membersin one we call town captainwhich is kind of like aproject leader但他也是學生但他可能要就是it's kind of a little bit likegamificationthey have to earn the statusto be a leader in the projectand then eventuallywe're starting to paysome of the town captain tooso managing the projectSo basically the team of threeneed to be first formedbefore you actually deployor as soon as one personcomes you deployYeah we assemble the full teamfirst of exampleright now we havesome of these are current projectwe're recruitingSo let's take the mostYeah that's actually the townand its companySo they sponsored a project with thisSo they wanted to findkind of like a digital sales peoplein EuropeSo then they camethis is the internalammingSo this is the applicantrightand thenSo we have all these studentsapplyYeah so right nowlet's seesome of themnot have theirgood profile completedYeah then they will applyand then this is likekind of their digital resumewe can check out theirprofileso these studentsfrom MelbourneokYeah然後他就這邊會有寫他的levelSo if you sayoh他現在是new user那他是可以晉級的So eventually they will havelike different levelof you know becoming likeamazing our communityIt will be really nice對就是看他做多少事情之後他可以那個那So yeah對晉級對對算是unlock the accomplishmentsI think對就是看說表現like the actual performanceyou know on the jobor like some of the learningthat's gone throughSo in terms of the hireI know it's dash was kind of crappybut yeahWe basically have thiscount on captainor the otherSo the assignedproject managerand he's responsibleto recruit his teamSo像現在這個就是this guy's got pickrightSo he's assigned to be a TCThat's what we call itAnd then he will go outto finish his recruitingAnd then once after thatwe recommend to the clientAnd then they have toapprove the teambefore they can callSo you do like basiccurational workby the clienthas to find a sayThey dobut you knowthat's one of the challengessometimes client is likewell you guystake care of itbecause they still look at itmore likewell I'm outsourcing a portionof my work to youso they don'tnecessary sometimeslook at itbecause this is very good to domentorshipslikewhat we hope they dobut that's what we got to dobetter upon the clientin the face point of viewwe wanted to create this verykind of checklist basedproject guidelinesso I'm just kind of justoh you knowlike week oneI need to do thisrightactually you knowalignment对对对so it's like a guidelinejust so wethe big focus next yearbecause weone is for studentrightthey can followthe work testtwo is kind of a clientwell this is the best waywe feelyou can train aglobal and virtual teamthere's a more structured wayto do thatright对所以大概然后现在这个so these are kind oftownsso now we have likeaboutwith 1100 students那其实很多就像像like you saidindoindo对就是一些emerging Asia对然后就是这些说那也有像在日本的就是也有一些这样的对吧the sunyeah but yeahthis person hasn'tfeel the profileso we gotta do a better jobon getting the studentsofday-to-daysoyesbut我那我也想请你这样就说likefor Taiwanrightso eventuallywejust love toreally get morehow many studentsinvolvedon thisbecause i thinkthis could bea good opportunityforTaiwanese studentstotobe exposedbuti thinki'm runningto several challengesso one isjust feel likeTaiwanese usein generalarewell this conceptintensiveit'sit'si feel like in Taiwanit's a little bithow do you saypeople definingin very different waysi guessyeahbut because we runa quite successfuloh reallyit shouldportalincluding thepublic sectorandprivate sectoras welland communityservices as wellandevery yearwe recruitthirtyintentsand they areactuallymulti remoteandbut theyinstead of workingon community engagementthey work onthe experience designfor thevariousgovernment runservices and so onand they have thisseem thebalkongrightlike medium write-upsand so they alsotake placeto mentorthe next batchnext yearif they wantand some of themwell one of themhas been promotedto full-timehereyeahas a fellowcolleagueand so I thinkthe Taiwanese youthactuallyis very well suitedfor remotethe working internshipbut they really needto understandthe purposelike theif you sayyou know this is justto earn a quick buckno nobody is interestedbut if you sayyou knowmei ga yihang chen shigei bian dao qingby bai wai rinis well suitedand then they'reactuallyover-possibleyeahthey'remuch moreproposableyesI guess the problemis becausewellwhenhow I got startedit was actuallyso a lot of thesestudentsfor where I sitis becauseI was doinga lot of tourismdevelopment workso these studentsof kind of funtraveland hospitality schoolsthat's rightso in theorythis is justsometimes it'sbegallwell I don't want toI see all of themjust be a lowerit herethis is whatI'm an academic speakerI'm supposed to be downat themid to bottom levelofstudent gradesof the linear scalethat's rightthat's rightI'm at middle school dropoutsoyou got somethingyeahokayyeahbut you know what I meanyeahso at leastjust atit's on the traditionalacademic definitionthey are less high-performingsure surethenthen we have thisand this seem to be a layerwe focus on right nowyeahthis is almost现在的系统I feel like we're not designingthis currentprogram for the verytop studentsmaybe you'rechecking reallymotivatedand you knowso smart studentswe expandedthat programwhich is just atwo months programso even moremacker than yourswowbut they're full-timeor a patternjust like 15hours per weekso they wereremoteand then in thefema3in the remoteremoteI can't believe itI can't believe itso it kind ofindifferently inventedbut why can they're justwalking your officeorwalking someyeah becausebecause they'reover the placethey're over Taiwanso while most of thecentral government agenciesare in Taipeifor exampleif they want towork on theTaijongshi showif you casethey probably have tointerview people inTaijongshigot itin which caseof course the people aroundthe central Taiwanwill be more interestedin working on that casebut we do haveof course aget togetherlike sureand pizzaand things like thatbut most of the timethey work remoteso we also havethis worse placeand things like thatyeah butthe point is thatthis works pretty wellso that we alsowork on the3t.org.twwhich is thistraining talenttransformation thingwhich recruitsI think hundredscan I take a pictureof this websitethese are all public websites anywayso what we'retrying to do hereis not necessarilythe academicallyinclined likedream in Pythonpeoplebut ratherif for examplethere are interested in digital engagementthey actually maythere will bearound the sameageand interestspacebut wework withlike freshgraduated undergradmostlyfor this programso like the peoplein the portfolioof undergradand thenthey can just clickthis weirdbrainway controllikebut do they have toand thenthen choosewhat kind ofwork they wantto enroll inand this is team of fiveand they work witha kind of localactually just likethe tourism bearing oneactually a localcommunitycommunity saythat want to increaseis this aboutlet's sayit's the digital meansand so onso for theshewess in shall partI think it's almostcompletely the samebut this is liketwo weeks ofintensive trainingon-siteand thenteam of fiveand goes onto do six monthsof internshipoh interestingso they have todo works offline toonot just totally onlineso they have to dolocal engagementthe initial trainingis of coursein the four officesand thenonce they startthe training programthat depends ontheir community needsrightso if theyare deployed tofor exampletransformthe shewess in shallfor a particular townor somethingor a town or somethingof course they'llhave to make tripsto that towngot itgot itnow one of my biggestgoto is to figure outa way to paythe zinternsI don't knoware they likethese zinternsarenampay or paythese arepayed for six months ofworkif they finishthe internshipof coursedon't drop adsthen we pay themaround one typefor the workfor six monthsyeah for six monthsand the trainingis freeand they getcertificateso it's a prettygood dealso the problemfor our designright nowfor this programiswellso basicallythe internhave to worknampayfor atleastwith the six monthsin our systemand then they getadventsand then we startedkind offigure out a wayto pay themnow we pay themat the endat the end of the internshipoh okayso not unlikeyour programohthat's why we reallykind of justso it's as wellbut then this ideaof nampayrightat leastfor a whileyeahthe internsomethingat leastand i thinkevery interngoodyou knowdepends on who you talk toso they allmight seeis the same waybutit's verya controversialsometimesaspect about internsor depends onhow you positionright rightbecausethat's whymention the mentorshipisperhaps the most importantlikeif these are the peoplethat you will payto attend a lecturetoyeahbecause you have to payfor these educationrightexactlyso thenit sounds a good dealbecause you'rebasically payingzero dollarsbut still getpretty good mentorshiprightfor these folksbut if youwe don't have thisthen it soundslike exploiting thatbecause you'reso we gotreally highlighteducationasexceptasexceptwell yeahbecause that's alsokind of new to usobviously we werejust shaping that upfor the past three monthsto be a morestructuredprogramfor trainingfor interview但之前可能你开始没有没有想那么多就就说oh this isbecause we havethis verymotivatedI would saystudents fromtheyou know Indiaor something他们有些是愿意justI'm willing tobecause Ibecauseactually working foroversea companyputting on their resumemeans a lotyeahso for themby defaultthey aremore okaydoinggrowingnot payand I'm surethen we havesome tiny studentdoing that toobut by and largeI feel like大家快快快那我还是觉得I think they have除非是说你可以证明他的公共利益非常高and in which casethis is just公益活动rightyeah but if this ismostly forlike one businessthen of coursenatural questionasked byactually someapplicants hereis to sayyou knowwhat stopsthoseparticularly in businessfromyou know justkeep rejecting usrightso for everythree monthsthey have afresh batchofyellow liversyeah becausebecause they seethis isI'm actually doingwork forcommercial companyfor a private companyand whyso unlikeworking for the governmentto seeyou gota比較obviouslyit's for public goodsrightso for usas a platformit's a little bitharder to tell themwell you got to workfor freefor moshifor likethree to six monthshere theyactuallytheir outside trainingis alsoon business sectorcompaniesis not likethese are suddenlystate-owned enterprisesor not like Beijingso that's what they dothat's righteverything nationalizedthat's right郭靖明to and all thatright soso if you're interestedin for example外商rightbecause it will lookgood on their resumethey'll probably sayyou knowI've spent six monthsin the外商and then they pay me十萬元if I finish mysix monthsso this十萬 is standard acrossis standard acrossall the different businesses所以就所有的不管是star or smallthat's rightthat's rightso to be a小英it also meansthat they have toput somesomethingyou knowsaying thatI have tooffer mentorshipI have to mentora reasonablelike deployment strategyand things like I saidso it tend to beand I'll be honestit tend to bekind ofmedium to largeenterpriseswhile this programis designed formedium to smallenterprisesbecause for small enterprisesyou knowfor a batch oflife studentsto get themsufficient mentorshipisn't actuallythat easyso we don't have tomenpower torightso we'rewe're sayingyou knowmaybeashangquantheget your communitytogetherbending togetheris one of the bestwith the localsocialinterpreteracting askind of acaptainon the business sideshangquancan thenwork withthe five peoplehere on theinternshipso we're stilltuning this programto belookskind ofvery muchoveryeahbecause right nowa lot of ourintenters to sponsornot even likemissize businessthey're likealmost microenterprisesthat's rightsoa lot of the actuallyngosor他们本身自己也没有很多budgetso the ideaof having theseyou knowsort of likeaffordable teamfor themis a goodgood plus但是就是说but they kind ofgoes both waysthen justobviously then但过来讲他的mentorshipto the capacity就没有那么好是 是 是所以变成说we have to trainso i thinkwe'rein a similar situationbut obviouslyyou have a lotof bigger names herebut isure sure sure surebut i thinkthere's a lot ofcomplementarylearningsbecausefor examplewe don't havean english websitethere you goi don't have ageniusit's rightit's likecomplementarybut is this openfor onlyTaiwan studentsright orat this momentyesbecause this programwas designedbecause wekind of anticipatedwhen securingthis budgetthat there will bea rise in useemployment becauseof covidbut because we'retoo successfulin countering covidthere's no useof covidso this is a new programthis is ageniusactually literally前兩天才開始this is a brand new programand we're still tuning init's the first year toothat's rightthat's rightso can my companybe one of a companyto sponsorbecome sign its yearrightand alsobecoming its year導師if you want那這十萬塊是是誰會sponsor是你目前在第一年是我們已經變了預算因為本來是要舊金顏事業是對所以預算到底就別下去所以是要moneyif you need moneyif you need moneyif you need moneyif you need moneyif you need moneyif you need moneyoki am my taiwan branchfor the past few yearsso we're good yeahthat's rightthat's rightso i understandyou're a美商自以成國自以成國對因為我們是which makes you awhitesumi guessyeahbut we are technicallyrightandandbecauseso luckilyour maincooper businesswas quite effectiveearly in a yearthen the whole ideamoment pick upright and thenand then things have been in taiwanso i started to havethis bigger office spacei rented out this yearsoin the future the idea isonce covid is freeso hopefully we'll have thisphysical work spacebut more creativefor global internto come into taiwanto really becomelike a culture hubso they canjustsure也是一樣來and thenfound time to timethen後來我就說but they ended upwe have the spaceand then也出真的沒有那麼多internalizeand thenso we ended upgiving the space outto somesome of the social venturesin taiwan too就現在有一個ngio也是做just a bit of education relatedit's called bright sideso we've beenjust kind ofhelping it outthenso overallyeahso iyeahi'm thinkingjustsojust将来就是想要都在 taiwan做一点justsojust on incubationand then不管是talentororhelphelphelpyeahany of thisyeahbutsureyeah我我有看到之前你有幫那個suresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresuresure因为我今年才kino他们的那个CDO IQ哦在哪对所以我就觉得说今年台湾在一个很好的position就是说对我们来讲我们已经in the futurerightpost covid对所以我们可以来plan说大家有疫苗之后会长什么样子我们这边可以sendproto typeright所以wellwellbring this up因为呃就是我们有一个台湾GoCar.com也是呃这些金卡池有人呃做出来的哦对我朋友最近才来的对对对那因为我们最近呃有relax他的呃不要说relaxexplant呃他的scope就是呃他不想说如果你有start up呃成功卖给上市贵公司的经验或者自己IPO了对那你就automaticallyqualify那你就可以来台湾然后而且想要健保等下在这个最最安全的地方you knowmy friend just broughtlike a bunch of呃他他他runs a crypto company呃but he was one of athird product manager at youtubeso you know Steve Chenand those guys对对对所以他最近来了那Steve Chen是第一张第一个拿起来的对对对因为他们这是一个game的然后后来他最近带了一桶阿库的就是some otherother startup foundersall in San Franciscoand some investor heresoI was just chatting with himtwo days ago呃causecause he wanted to also就对他们来说台湾是因为他也是ABC啦但是就说他就以前会就是just a very short time然后来玩这样过年对对对so now I'm kind of tellingwell you need to spend some timein a local communityto really呃get to know Taiwanand I think a lot of themwanna do somethingonce they learn more about就是台湾这边的双框啊对对对对yeah所以就说我是觉得至少digital engagement这一边提大使势也许可以考虑engage那然后当然我们一直都有internally像我们的GENCY刚刚讲每年30个也是呃请那个纪念书他们本来就一个职场体验网我刚刚show给你看的还都是纪念书的the program那那边也可以考虑engage那如果现在讲的是国外的intern过来的话那我觉得很多go card对都是一个很好的想法因为他们本来就是work for themselfgo card的the whole point of go card就他不用work forKaiwanese company啊okto come to workthey just come toto live hereand this is three yearsthis is three yearsand also they can reapplyone three years is upand on their fifth yearthey can apply for naturalizationwithout giving up their passportactually the feedback from my friendhe almost feel likethe qualification is too low for thisi know他就觉得说oh this is a little就是我知道因为我们现在是比较i think thethe cause is to welcome我们的概念就是说大家都可以说i'm also a taiwanesei think that's greatbecause i honestly havemy advisor beingso he retired fromMcKenzie for the past 21 years但他其实一直以来就是团队的人he has ARC now in taiwanright所以我就觉得发现at least i seethere's a new energy comingthere's a flow oftalents and captoesand given the trade warsand i also think likebecause hong kong andsingapore are very island stateso because of covidthey're really challengedfrom theirjust sort ofbe locked outfrom the international connection所以我觉得台湾to methere's a taiwan 3.0 comingthat's right第三次经济期that's rightthat's rightyou're very nonchallengedwell i think this is our decadethis is our decadebecause i thinki thinki don't know covidjust maybejust meant to bebut it isto see a butterfly effectjust kind of likemess everythingit really isit really isright所以所以我觉得有两个比较实际的一个就是T-Dash那边ok看对那另外一个就是整个国家community因为现在国发会的地方创生已经有一点转向变成要投资青年在地方with their workto their community那这个跟你刚说的那个local impact其实是一样的那而且但是国发会同时又主导那个Bilingual Nations那所以这两个其实有一个 synergy就是说我们怎么样子去确保说如果一个local community要做international outreach的话它可以work with not onlyinterns from Taiwanbut alsointerns all across the worldor at least in the Pacificright所以我觉得那这个community对国发会是很有 leverage对因为它大概有多少人已经拿到这个这边有讲啊就是在10月底153现在应该快要破2000了哇对所以其实真的因为我们去年可能200张的Weeding发的出来So you know a few years agoI bought a bunch on SpinnerFound in San Francisco那个时候大概2017吧我们去的北京上台Oh no 上台北京深圳香港然后台湾本来Nobody wants to comeWhy Taiwan?We want to go to Singapore right?I'm like noYou got to come here for a teaYeah所以他们不就把人骗过来Bubble teaSorry对不起对不起啊对不起啊后来呢我们也去国发会那时候忘记Foreign womenAnyways然后They literally were trying to hand us a visaThat's rightIt's just likeWe're doing a go-kartAnd there was like one case studyOne guy was likeHey I got this in Taiwan然后那时候And the guys were likeWell I think they were literally trying to hand us a visa right thereWe're likeYeah we're a little behindBut you know但是我觉得现在这个大家都想赖对对对 已经两千多人这真的是很难看YeahAnd you know the other thingBecause I'm working with the bomb government然后最近我就一直有Nani那个Ted talk那个Digital management因为就是Part of our tourism workBecome a slight public health work nowTrue to try toDesigning那我觉得那些美国的比较小的地方政府就很刷过了因为就是They just don't haveAll the agency working thereAnd they don't have thatPersonal digital input structure对对对对所以就这也是蛮Challenged但是You knowHopefully the vaccine is going to workBut yeah对对对So I've been referencing some of the videos that you didTo show thisSome of the government that I work withHave you heard anything about thisThe digital passport thingHillsHills passCommon pass所以之后台湾也会装那个嘛就是人家进来之后会有这个Digital screening我有听说但是那个是就是为了服务自己因为它有点有点BioNTRO的Saint所以我没有involve into it但是我有听说Got it就是至少就是说你在现在外面说要自己厨师那个就是RTPCR是那但是现在就发现forgery很多其实最近的问题是这个就值得来回遭了对所以就有时候有一些就是Accredited institution可以用Digital的方式交换的嘛我想会不会是非常Welcome特别是在Vaccinated people上面Brandi进来还是要测一次And that bodyRight right rightWell that's the next year's challengeYeah that's the next year's challengeYeahBut I think we're in a pretty good placeYeahYou know, plenty of physical vaccinesSoYeahYeahWow所以这个TI think这个两个真的T是Nokar我指的是我可以比较那这个我如果想要成为就是企业的话就是赠紧的对啊就填了好会有专人跟你来So I can refer to our YouTube videoHi我们这个放到YouTube上OK好真的OK OKI'll buy the same thingYou're programYou're program等一下好T当然是这个3T.org.cw好这我一定会Yeah I'm definitely want to apply是然后gocard.com.community那个是完全明显的但是这个网站已经有点Semi-official就是我们都给出这个网站这样所以你觉得这边就是You guys actively trying to create some eventsor some engagement programThat's right exactlyFor this productRightFor Taiwan Go Card as a product嗯YeahWe're going to go as far as就是如果有专业在LINE用Go Card的话它好比像说在地的一些生活上面啊或者有点像是你知道就是Visa的那种concierge service这样这个我们没有在想WowIt's almost like a full suitYeah I've been helping my friendfor this quarantine deliveryExactly yesNo because what they think isInstead of thinking of this a two-week quarantineWhy don't we make it an experienceYeahYou'll see it likeTaiwanese cultureExactly例如14天可以engage你的这个Yeah我们我自己就有一个亲人那他从美国来14天的期间他就已经考到了居家招服务员的那个B市的的征兆Oh damn然后一出去之后他一时期他就变成一个这个这个居家服务员Oh that's awesomeYeahSo a lot of thoseYou know remote stuffYou can do it during the quarantineIt's not like you have anything else to doRightSo yeahYou really want to make an experienceRightThat two weeksRightIntensive training programProperty intenseWell I think it's important to set a goalLike one of my friendsI want to get into a better shapeAfter 14 daysAfter a dayWe can walk outGoJust a little quietYeahSo if you have any badgeYou can unlockDuring the 14 daysYeahWhat's still moving pretty slowlyBecause it's just bootstrappingSo it's justYeah but with a lot of cool ideaBut14 days captainOr somethingYeahChallengment 20 minutesSo this isYou oversee the program不是我是幫忙 promote那這個其實是就像你剛剛講的就是 Steve 他們其實這是一個完全 open sourceBottom up對那我看覺得裡面有一些字眼可以改我就直接改因為是在 GitHub 上所以我就直接改就可以所以像我有建議他們 body-wideQualify 放在這個因為大家才會知道這個How low the bar is是That's itI knowThis goal cardSounds really complicated其實是蠻容易的I would love toI meanI'm not officially promotingBut I think yeahI'll talk to MattMy friend MattHe just got itAnd he has likeHe almost got 10 peopleOn board with us alreadyYeahSaying out no doiDoiAnd they don't want to leaveIncrease the basic transmission rateMakes this website go viralYeah okayBut I think the ultimate visionIs to have more talentsThat's exactly what I wantAnd more people are sayingI'm also TaiwaneseOkayWell I thank you for your time todayI know I only have body-minuteI got itI don't want to go over itYou're like in an empty houseSureYeahThank youThank you我們對Internship program其實是Saying在然後剛剛講到青年樹也是少林So they all heard meI guessThat's rightThat's rightNow you're readyYeahOkaySo this is your emailYeah you can email me directlyWowIt's very open我發現這個可能就是一個很open的狀態But in this one card我們把牆壁都拆掉Because I was passed by a midnight我想說為什麼為什麼沒有 gates down就說就不用 gateLet's go to the governmentI don't knowWowIt's very impressiveYeah我台灣 is certainly very progressive right nowSo that's that's really proud of itBengal mask and allOkay well I'll justThank you so much謝謝謝謝欸對了喔不能可以跟他拍一張照嗎I gotta brag about itOf course