 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this. Who gon' burn it to the tape? Boss talk, who your girlfriend fave? Boss talk, we gon' do it how you want. Boss talk, yeah, everybody on. Check it, check it, check it. This is Unique Hustlers, your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica, what's going on? Yeah, man, my dad, we're all going with you. Hey, man, you talkin' that talk. You know, I'm tryin' to figure it out. I'm workin' on that thing, man. You know, my path toward gettin' better every episode. Man, we got a special guest in the house today, y'all. Guess what, y'all? Y'all don't be knowin' what I'm gon' do because y'all don't know me like that. You can't pick me. Look, man, I got people in places that y'all probably ain't never been in your life. Boy, y'all better ride with me and not collide with me. You know what I'm sayin'? Check it, man, Ro Tarantino is in the building. What's goin' on, brother? Man, what's poppin' with your boss talk? Save, man, you on boss talk 101, what a boss is talk. Yes, sir. Save, man. Real boss talk, real move like a boss. Big baby. Big baby. Yeah, man. Save, man, we got a lot to get into, man. Say, yeah, yeah, you been from down home, man, down there in Mount Pleasant, man. Just, let's get the people a little spew, a little splash on, you know, just how you started out in the music. Cause really when we talk, we therapeutically wanna, you know, register to somebody so they can get some help, some kids. People, you know, everybody wanna be a rapper, bro. Man, I was rapping when rapping wasn't cool, so, you know, I know everybody wanna be a rapper, now it's cause it's cool, you know what I'm sayin'? It wasn't cool to be a rapper when I was rapping. It was like, all these niggas rap. He rap, oh, okay, yeah. Oh, really? I was rapping since then, so, yeah. And how old were you at that time? Man, I was about, I started, got on the stage with pops, put me on the stage, a little rap. I had a battle rap at first, I was a rap battle. You know what I'm sayin'? Mm-hmm. You show up and spit that fire. I used to show up and spit fire. We had to talk about some of the nastiest things. This wasn't making no hit records or no hit singles. We had to go in from the gutter, from the heart, from what you got on, and really try to embarrass you. So, you know, I was doin' that then. I was about 12 or 13 when I started doin' that, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, yeah, I've been hearin' about you, man. Like I said, I keep my ear to the streets, so I've been hearin' about you, man. I'm very moved by what you move on, what you move in with, the way you spin lyrics. A lot of people, I ain't able to even get to that level. I'ma be honest with you. You can tell you articulate very well. Absolutely. But you say your dad put you on stage at that time. Was he in music as well? Yeah, he used to be a DJ, you know what I'm sayin'? He was a DJ, you know. He was a DJ and had a club back in the day. What was it, T90's pops? I don't know. I just know he was musically inclined, so he know one thing. He gonna put Big Tino on their ass when they was, you know what I'm sayin'? Excuse my friend. Yes, sir. He was gonna put me in the mix and put me in the water. You know what I'm talkin' about? So yeah, he was musically inclined and actually I think his daddy was a booking agent, wasn't it? Yeah, he used to bring blues singles to each Texas. Oh wow. So you have it in your blood? Yup. Yes, ma'am. That's cool. So that's 12. So when was the first time you actually started takin' it seriously? Serious? Cause I know at 12 you probably wasn't takin' it serious. You just doin' somethin'. Nah, I was just battle-rappin' in China, you know what I'm sayin'? Figure out what I wanted to do and actually I started takin' it serious when we start formin' a group called PVP. PVP, shout out! Shout out to all my PVP members, Pleasantville players, you know what I'm talkin' about? That's what they stand for. Mount Pleasant stand up, put your hands up here. Yeah, so that's when we started kinda takin' it serious. It was an adolescent series, but we knew we wanted to do music. Like, we ain't had no platform or no, matter of fact, shout out to D-Money cause I used to record at his studio in the house up there by the high school. So that's when we kinda started takin' it serious. Like it was an adolescent series, but we knew we was tryin' to do music. And how old were you then? I was like 15. 15, so I was 12. Okay, that's not that long. Okay, so when did the group, when did you go solo? Well, I was actually been in two groups. That group, it was like I said, it was more, cause I'm still in that group, you know what I'm sayin'? That's tatted on me, so, you know what I'm sayin'? Pleasantville players, it's where we from. Cause we was really more, honestly, we was like players, like meaning, you know what I'm sayin'? We was just young kids, havin' a, you know, doin' our thing out here in the streets. I was goin' to school, actually. My cousin and them had graduated. They was a little older, so, and I was real short. I was a small one, so I was just a little player. I had all the people rockin' with me, like I just had a little swag. I used to play ball at the time, so it was all just kinda, it kinda revolved around each other. It was, you know, I was like, I'm 15, so I was about, I think about in ninth grade, but I kept getting kicked outta school, so we ain't gonna go through all that. But I had a team of people around me, they really was doin' it. They was money-recorded. My brother Scram, when I met him, I met his mama first, cause I got kicked out and I turned to school, and she was the teacher. She was tryin' to help me, cause I ain't had no support system. No support system, cause Pops was in jail, and I think my mama's in jail at the time, too. So, you know, it was just a lot goin' on. So who were you being raised by? My granny, and myself, you know what I'm sayin'? The streets, shout to the streets, you know what I'm sayin'? I got in and got out, but yeah, the streets gave me, you know what I'm sayin'? Gave me a few pointers, slapped my hand, bumped my head, you know how I go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know how you catch good. I'm in the street. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, I was square, nigga. I'da ended up at Pilgrim Pride, something like that. Workin' like hell. I worked before, I worked one job. Tryin' to figure it out with them damn gloves on, cold in there, all them chickens comin' through. Yeah, I ain't doin' that, though. Yeah, I was in there, nigga. Chickens everywhere, nigga. Shout out to everybody. Yeah, nigga, I went through there, my hands was froze, nigga, but they let me get on that forklift, nigga, and I ain't never looked back, nigga. Yes, sir. Yeah, man, once I got on that forklift, baby, it was over. Mr. Forklift, boss talk, man. Listen, man, look here, man. Left, ain't went back, forklift, and I'm out. Shout out to you, man, for me. That's being me. But boy, I know about that factor over there, cause a lot of people eat from Oboe Pilgrim. He died Richard Hale down there. Oboe Pilgrim, boy, yeah, he shoulda did more for our people down there while he was usin' them up, yeah. Yeah, shout out to y'all that y'all hear me. I'm on both top, one on one. Shout out to everybody that said Pilgrim Pride, man. We comin' up, nigga, we got a microphone down there. You know what I'm talkin' about? Shout out to everybody that said Pilgrim Pride, man. Yeah, man. So what's the, what's up with, I heard you had a song with Walker Flocker back in the day. Yeah, I had a song. What's that playing, man? Nah, I had a, it's still a dope. Nah, he was up down. One of them niggas. Well, yeah, show him who he was up there. Man, look, man, I met the nigga. We was at the Palms Hotel, now in Vegas, man. I traveled, man. I messin' around, man. Yeah, I see your wall, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody be trippin' on the wall, man. The wall just tells it all, nigga. We think that's a lot of money bein' spent traveling and dealing with different parties and different, even some of them in the store here. So, you know, you just never know, man, what's gonna go down. So you got to... I see you boosin', yeah, I see you big time. But you see all y'all pictures, yours will be up there pretty soon, bro. You see the pictures, we gon' do this whole store in pictures, man. Yeah, you know it. So you see the pictures over there behind my counter and up on the wall there everywhere, and we got more. So yours will be one of them up here. The whole store gon' be number of pictures of all our guests, man. Yeah, that's dope, man. So we always flip and turn out like different than everybody else, man. That's dope, man. You creative, though. I see why you call unique, fast, that's definitely unique. Man, that's very unique. Yeah, that's very unique. Man, what's up with that hard living? I heard you should have pushed that one a little harder, too. They say that's the hardest one. We redid it, you know what I'm saying? We redid it, and we finna push it, we finna put the house on it, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah? Yeah, we redid it. We had some little saxophones and some more instruments. Yeah. Yeah, it sound totally different now, so yeah. Yeah, man. We gon' push that. Everybody be tapping in with that because a lot of people say they got a story, but is it worth hearing, you know what I'm saying? That hard living, man, like I said, you went through some things growing up. Yes, sir. You just expressed the fact that your pops was locked up, your mom was locked up, you was at your grandma house. Hey, man, you black. For real. Shout out to my granny, man. You know what I'm saying? Say you black. My granny was coming to my game and literally I never forget it with kidney stones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't even walk up the stairs. But she was there. And she was there. Man, that's love. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to not all, you know, everybody, you know, the thing I look at more than anything, man, is we have a tendency. We have a tendency to think about, you know, things that when we look at things, you know, okay, we played a blame game a lot, but a lot of times we don't blame it to the right sources. Facts. There's a deep or rooted issues in our genealogy. Absolutely. So therefore the people who came up and you see them go through issues, whether it be your father, whether it be your mother, whether it be your uncle, your auntie, cousin, you know already the background that everybody had to come up through. So at the end of the day, you have to learn how to forgive in order to grow. Absolutely. You know, and that's the biggest thing I see when I look at our people, man, is that there was no reparation for our people. None. So at the end of the day, we didn't ever get no counseling, no help for the stuff that we went through. All of our ancestors, those 400 years of going through hardship and being whooped and raped and stripped from their families. And now we wonder why we're going through hell now. Somebody better wake up and realize, man, we gotta forgive and we gotta try to put our people back together. And that's what this platform is about, bringing our people back together, man. So, you know, when we look out here and we see the person sitting in front of us, we gonna love them to death with some God and we gonna turn around and bless them and whenever they got a project, we gonna put that thing out. We gonna wear the t-shirt, you know what I'm saying? We gonna make the t-shirt. We bought all the stuff to make the t-shirt. Shout out to my wife when spent all my damn money. You know what I'm saying? Buying stuff to come in boxes that I don't know what's in there, but you know, I'm trying to figure it out now with her. So shout out to the official Miss Jamaica. Yeah, shout out to the official Miss Jamaica, man. Like you said, it's just all by design though. See, I'm a little bit more seasoned, a little bit more established, a little bit more enlightened, should I say. Oh, your song, show it. So yeah, I don't never, I don't never pass blame or what, none of them are older. I used to pass a little blame and my daddy wasn't there, my mama wasn't there, but they was just trying to, they was just trying to do the best they could to provide for us. Yeah, yeah, my dad, I can tell you the same story, except for mine, my dad was drunk, fighting my mommy every, hell, he needed to be locked up the way he was fighting up through that dammer. Every Friday and Saturday and Sunday if that nigga come, he gonna get to bed and this nigga gonna burn all the money up. Down there done hauled pup wood all week, took that little over $300, $400 and messed it off and my mama wasn't trying to hear it and he could not whoop her, so it was going down. He had to feel the rap. Oh yeah, yeah, when he come home, nigga, we rocked that whole little trailer. Yeah. Everybody in the whole rock. You know what I'm saying? She shot at him one time, one day. She barely missed that nigga by that way. I still got the trailer, nigga. I'll never let that go down in the country. Niggas don't know, you can't buy that one right there. You could never buy that spot because at the end of the day, that spot, man, that's the only place, that's the only place my mom and dad ever live together and nobody else ever live there, no other woman know what I mean? As far as with my father, so it's still the middle, man. But I understand how I live and I understand around me, is it around me? Yeah, yeah, I understand. You know what I'm saying? I get it. My niggas ain't gonna get it. Right. You know, yeah, they'll say they get it because they hear a beat. Yeah. They don't get it. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You tapped in, you tapped in with me then. You heard me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the things you say, let me know. You don't wanna check to that because I ain't even seen you. That one. Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no. I'm gonna hustle him, man. Come on now. I ain't gonna say it. No, no, it's some things that, like I said, the hard living, that's the one, man, though it go hard, man. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of, I'm sorry. No, go ahead, go ahead, I'm just listening. You know I'm going in. Go ahead, go ahead. You know, I just, I'm so real with what I become, the spirit, it just reach across the table and grab him and say, come here. Yeah. It ain't me. It ain't me. I feel it and I can't even, I can't even shake it. Like I'm right here with you. Yeah, yeah, it's a good feeling, man. To see, you know, that God is blessing. See, you used to, you could get no recognition in the country for hip hop and all that. Now you got you, you got Ro Tarantino, Smooty, Smitty Hawkins, you got a bunch of them that I, and what's that other boy named Seaco P, Wallop P, all of them be coming to the spot. You know, I'm highlighting the ones that I've been rocking with because you guys, man, y'all stick out to me. You know what I'm saying? You know, I know you, you know, you watching what's going on. So what's the next move for the next project or the project you running right now? Cause I want to hear about how you trying to, you know, the summer for the hit, nigga, the mask is off. Yeah, it's off. It's mask off, man, mask off, man. Niggas getting shots now, dying in a few days. Some of them living. Yeah, let's tell it, I really going down. They ain't taking that shot. They got, they on their own with that. But yeah. Yeah, niggas dying, they taking shots. Some niggas making it through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The niggas ain't taking them though. They chilling. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm the nigga who ain't taking them. They ain't taking those shots, but yeah, man, we got the, we got the single big baby that's going crazy right now. Man, I listen to that thing. That thing got that beat behind it too. And then you hit, you riding that cadence too, boy. Yeah, I appreciate you, man. So he tapping in for real, yeah. But man, I just want to put the city on the map, man. Let everybody know that you don't got to be from a big city to do big things. You know what I'm saying? I'm from a little small Mount Pleasant, but I'm going to put the city on the map, big baby. Yeah, man, how did you, how did you go down in Atlanta? It went great, man. It went great. You niggas frequent in Atlanta, nigga. They didn't ever even stop for Corona. You got to the right place. They nigga down there, they wide open. Hey, I was one of them guys. Three months before Cologne. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they niggas is down there party and they ain't no party stop, man. They did the all-star down in that hill. Chucky Trill got killed down there doing the all-star, man. I hated that. And Trilly Pope and them drove up here the next day and did interviews. The Houston cats came up. Shout out to Trilly Pope. Shout out to B Banks, man. I hope you guys doing good down there, man. We miss you. We love you. We're about to pull up on you, nigga. So don't even trip. We coming. Yeah, but nah, man, we just, you know, we just, we just know in Atlanta, man, they live over a little bit different. You know, I was at a video still frequent. Them niggas did a, what did they do with Gucci and Jesus? They popped that all off. It was packed at the club right after that. The first one. You nigga, that's crazy, isn't it? That was good for the culture. At first I was like, nah, but that was good for the culture. No, no, that was great for the culture. I loved it for the culture. Shout out to them boys. I met Gucci a few times, man. And I never met Jesus, but I definitely don't rock with Gucci on a few occasions, man. Standup guy, real stumped down guy. I thought we were gonna have to scrap with him one time, but hell, he straightened up. That's the old good new Gucci. Shout out to the new Gucci. I see. Big Gucci, man. Shout out to the new Gucci. Man, that nigga a boss, man. If it wasn't for him at Atlanta, I don't feel like they would never be in the situation they in. He put so much, he put so much of his self into that whole scenario. Really, the nigga like Jesus down there, the nigga gave his life for y'all niggas in Atlanta. Shout out to the new Gucci. That's some real, that's some real tough guy, but listen, y'all better listen, man, cause Gucci, man, he put some fire up under a jet and took it from Atlanta to the top. Well, you know, I'm sharp and sharp. Yeah, it's a lot of artist that's, when he said all my children on that song, he put a lot of people in for sure. Yeah, it ain't my trap house, man. That's all Texas need to do, man. Texas need to do. I think I'ma be the Texas Gucci, man. I think I'ma be the Texas Gucci, man. You gotta help a lot of people though. That's what I like about him. You know, he helped a lot of those guys, man. He did it with, he would go to the hood when other niggas that gave up on the hood. Absolutely. So that's what I respect in Gucci, man. I never forget the way that he, you know, after he faced that murder charge, he came back and he still put his heart into his music and he still put out albums and he still ran around and even though he was going through his whatever, y'all can call it bipolar, crazy, whatever, the niggas still were helping people. They always called the ones crazy. They really got the most sense. Like Kanye as well. Y'all know y'all like, man, Kanye, yeah, nigga. But Kanye got plenty of sense too, nigga. We black, nigga. If a nigga make it out, niggas ain't no sense in hating on each other. Let love each other through it, man. Man, them facts, man. Them big facts, man. They always, really they just got so much sense that they want them to be quiet and try to give them something to share them with. You know what I'm saying? They free thinking, man. When you free, they get mad about that, man. Absolutely. So, man, thank you, man. I tell you, man. You're just a breath of fresh air, man, to see a brother, your likeness come from down in the country, man, and that. You know, I got another thing I want to talk to you about, but I'm gonna let my wife ask you a few questions because she gonna have something different that I'm ever gonna think of. Yeah, most definitely. No, I wanted to say, if you could look back at yourself at 12 because you've been in this business for a while and you know all the ups and downs and the things you've learned, how could you advise a 12-year-old who wanted to be you right now? How can you advise him to be better, quicker? Because a lot of times, like, you know, people always say, if I knew then what I know now, I would have gotten a lot further. Right. So how could you advise him? I could advise him by telling him to read. Read, read, read. Read, read, read some more. I agree with that, too. You know what I'm saying? School, understand what God is, learn about God, obey your parents, even though you don't want to listen to them because most of them gonna be sending you up for the next level, because it's like this, what I learned. If you don't be ready for life when you get to a certain age, your parents failed you at the end of the day. Now, not blaming nobody, but that's what it is. So we should listen to our parents, basically, instead of thinking we know it all, because everybody thinks they know it all between 12 to 17, 12 to 18, you know, until you get 19 and then you don't get the same treatment that you was getting when you was 12. And it get hard and you have to become a man for real. So all I could advise him was learn, research, talk less and listen more, you know what I'm saying? Talk less and listen more. And just be respectful, man, respect or take you a long way. Like, you'll have somebody that'll come get you and take you under they wing just by sending you high respect for you all. Right, that's true. You know what I'm saying? So stay teachable. That's one thing my old man always taught me. No matter what you know, no matter how much you think you know, just stay teachable. That's so true because people don't like the hard headed people. People who think that they know it all. And that's what a lot of these young people think they know it all. Fat, they think they know it all. And they don't know a wise man knows that he knows nothing at all. Well, the Bible said if any man thinks himself to be wise, let him become a fool, let him be wise. You gotta become a fool in order to be wise. That means you have to forget about all the foolishness that you've been dealing with and start all over again. He said, if you can't come to me like a little child, don't build them not to come to me, you know what I'm saying? Oh, a dirty rag. Yeah, you've got to change, man. A lot of times people not willing to let go. Absolutely. And let God, you know? So at the end of the day, I think our path is pretty much already written. But at the end of the day, we just got to have faith and walk toward it, you know? You gotta keep doing your music consistently. If I could add anything, it'd be to make sure to get you one of these little things so that them people right there would have it. So you could always have your content and it could be pretty much where basically everything is being capitalized and captured and you do a documentary at the end so that people can see the movement because God can take you from strength to strength. You wish you had some of that information. Always do your BTS, you know what I'm saying? You're right, you're absolutely right. That's what my new management was just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Atlanta, we actually had a little, it's dead over there. Oh, yeah? Yeah, so what? Yeah, we got a definitely, yeah. Almost like a Ronan. Okay, yeah, yeah, you gotta have that thing going. So we're working on that camera, you know what I'm saying? That camera that we're trying to get, that we gon' get, it's not a cheap camera. Man, I get the cheap one. I ain't gon' like that one right there. It's the best one, these are expensive. This one right here? No, that one. That little bitty one on me. That's the one right there. How much is that right there? About $300, $400. Okay, we got a little, that might have been what we was talking about getting when we was like, uh-huh. See, you gotta, I've been doing this a long time and I've seen that thing whooped these boys before too. Absolutely. It's just about how you use it and how you conduct your business. You know, that one when it first came out, it was of course $8,000, right? It's been a long time now and it's used 4K footage. So, you don't have to go out there and just stretch yourself out there like that. What's the name of it? Oh, that's the G7. G7. Yeah, yeah, that's the G7. The Lumix. Lumix. Lumix G7. Yes, sir. Appreciate it. Yeah, that's the one. And then I'll tell you what lens to get as well. Absolutely. And that whole kid around here. Because the lens is what matters too. The lens is what matters a lot. And so that is just for video recording? No, you can do pictures too. But what is it more permanent for videos? That's okay. It's about using it. It's about learning it. It's about spending time with it like you do with, I don't know. Your phone. Your phone, yeah, yeah. Rolling the blunt, hell. You can roll it with one hand, just, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like if you want something, then you'll dive into it and understand it better. You know what I mean? But that's the whole thing. Research, research, research. And do it just like you do your music. Stay into it until you learn it to where you know every single thing about it. To where your aperture, your ISO, your depth of field, all that stuff gonna be popping. You know what I'm saying? I've taken young boys all over the country having recordings done for me and teaching them. And then now some of them work for different Lamborghini or some of them work for high profile places. Cause I took them and took them to Beverly Hills and they would get out of line, 18, 17 year old. But you spend time with a man and you give and God bless you. Absolutely. You know? Yeah, bless you. And abundance. Yeah, so you gotta give. I started doing that years ago. I could go story for story with you on that kind of stuff. Cause that's what we're supposed to do. We put here to help others and show them the way. And then we pass on. That's it. God bless you. God bless you to be a blessing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always feel like that. So let's get deeper into your path. There was a few things I was gonna call. I know you, do you know Trio talk, no Pio talk? Nah, I heard of him. I'm about to call this boy up cause he didn't put you on the list. I wanted to ask him about that online. And you had a few things to say. I looked at your comments. Yeah, yeah. Just being 100 though. If you mention anything, it is texting. You don't mention real time. We forget to it. I wanna know. You gotta be biased somewhere. I wanna know what happened. Let's just find out. Yeah, I'm hell on wheels. You didn't know that. I like that. We need them kind of wheels running around us. Yeah, cause that way we get down to the bottom of it. Yeah, to the meat. Hello? Yo, what up with it? What up with it, Trio talk? Shit, shit, that crib was good. Man, we got you online, man. You sitting here, you on, you on, hey, you are in the midst of a boss talk one on one interview. I'm sitting here with that boy, Ro Tarantino. And he come up to do the interview with me. Well, good with it. Big Tino done checked in, you know what's going on. Yeah, man. So Tino, hey, I had, I asked him about the list. You come out with a few lists. Just like the boy I asked, I asked Sean Cotten yesterday how he felt about being number one on the gatekeeper list with a mogul media and he answered me real good. So I got this young man in here. And now it's cause you niggas making me list. See, I ain't made no list yet, nigga. But when I do, y'all in trouble, man. You feel it? But you list making niggas, man. I'll say something about that. Wait a minute. What did you say? Cause you said, I read it. Let me see. I said, I made a song about that. When the niggas going around here making these little lists and shit. Obviously the niggas they want to see their homeboys win. Okay, well, let's talk about that for a minute. So Trio talk. So what goes into making a list and how does a cat like Ro get missed in that list if he feel like it? Cause I got checked about your list too, nigga. You got me in trouble with that other dude. What was his name? Corey Dunn, the Dunn. He, nigga, y'all forgot me on the list. And I remember calling you and I was like, I don't know who this nigga is, but nigga put that nigga on that damn list. So how does the process go? And how does Tarantino, Ro Tarantino get missed? I'm looking at it. Fan, like the fan support. Fan support? The numbers. The numbers? Just the presence, the social media presence. The consistency. Yeah. And all that kind of stuff. Like at the time, Ro had put out nothing in a while. He just had been pushing, he just thought push the single about a couple of months. Where has been about, he's been pushing the single about about six months now? Yeah. About six months. When did that list get made? Six months ago? Nah, I got made in September. Oh, it was longer than six months. Yeah, yeah. So that's how, see? See now, now you see? I had hard livin' still and I had songs playing on all the radio stations. And I had major fan support. I got people that contacted me about the list. I didn't see the list. My fans, they me, how you on that on this list? Ah, I guess that's they partners or something. No, I didn't pay no attention. I see the list. So did you not think the smoothie poster been on that list? The smoothie poster been on that list. Man, it's supposed to be on that list. Okay. Man, it's supposed to be on that list. Okay. Man, it's supposed to be on that list. Okay, and who else, who else was on there? Give me the name on the list. Hey, a lot of them forgot. So who do you think that should not have been on the list? I can't remember who was on there. I don't know who's on the list. I know you got that damn list over there, Trill. Hey, Trill, tell me, who was on the damn list? Boy, I'm a hell of an interviewer, boy. I know, that's why. Piping up here. Let's see who on the list. Because we put a kicker nigga off and put a roll on that damn thing, right? Yeah, I got 100,000 views on YouTube on how I live. We had number one, we got Megan and Stallion. Okay, now come on now. We got Don Toliver, number two. Don Toliver, number three. Sauce Walker. Mode three, number four. Mode three, number four. Lil German, number five. Okay. And Yellow Beesie, number six. Okay. Peso, Peso, number seven. Trap boy, Fredy, number eight. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. Number nine. That's a stiff competition. And the loaded. Number 11, Toby. Number 12, Audi 300. Number 13, and Chandler, number 14, B-King. 15, number seven, 16. That's a hell of a list, man. 17, baby, youngin'. 18, K Breezy, 19, Rizzo Rizzo. 20, Lil CJ. Casino, 21. K-Twon fame. 22, Luce Ace. 23, Lil' Running Mother L. 24, Trudy Pope. And 25, Puget Brothers. Woo! When did you do that list? Cause the one I was talking about, you did 13. You were 13, that's a whole other list right there. That must've been the whole Texas. This is the first list I did. This is top 25 most problems. Oh, that's the top 20. Okay. No, the other one was just strictly for East Texas. East Texas. That's the other one for East Texas. That's the one I got cussed out about. That's the one we talking about. Cause I know everybody on that list supposed to be on that list. That 13. Yeah, that damn list he just gave was a bad boy. That was a hard list. Okay. Yeah. That was a hard list, right? So you have the one with the 13 on there? Yeah, but see, my whole thing would be, if he wanted for me making the list, wouldn't nobody from East Texas be on it. Oh, I get it. Yeah. He the only one making the list. You know what I'm saying? If I didn't do it, then wouldn't nobody be on it. That's right. Well, you know like- But you can't leave out being techno though. When I've been working since before the quarter game, I was working, I was getting paid for shows from Napa Doche. They would shout out D Henry, man, for paying me my first thousand dollars to come do a show without walk a flock on the sun. Mr. Fuck, how you feeling? Can't remember, got a band to do a show before it was even quarter game. Then we came back- What month was that? This was a few years, about four, it was four, five years ago. Okay, so- So I already been getting paid and went up down. Now I'm back up again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Grind, so what I mean, the consistency. Now let's talk about the music though. My music, and I ain't gonna ever say this arrogantly, I'm gonna say this confidently. And humbly. And humbly, my music is better than half them people that was on their Texas All Around list, musically, talent-wise, I've heard them out recently. Let me say this right now, Tarantino, ain't that a damn rapper gonna come in here and tell me his music sucks? Of course. Not a damn number's got to match up. And the numbers have to match what you say. But let me say this too. Because the internet and the damn people tell you what it is. No, not true. Not true. What matters is a bag, a bag and co-signs metal. So if I don't got co-signs that ain't got no bag, I'm just like the nigga that can't rap. Cause talent don't matter no more really. I get it. I've heard that a lot. But the thing is, how can I calculate Rose's bag? I can calculate your damn bag. You can calculate my bag by how I can move. I can't move with no bag. No, no, no, I'm just saying far as the way that they look at the music industry and they make these lists. They don't know how much money you making per show. They're looking at the way the impact is on the internet. No, I mean that's what I was about to say. I mean the numbers. And the show. And the show. Like I see a lot of people you have a like, they have me and a thing that I'm talking about. But they do a show and they don't got a number. Feed the people at the show. Yup. So he look at how many people it's turned up at a show. Okay. But there's people who, man, you know, but there's people who buy them views though. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, it's a bunch of nigga buy them. Everybody in the industry buy views. Everybody in the industry is, the industry is ran off a machine. How can you calculate the real numbers from a machine? You can't. As you go on tour and you go around, it's turning the real numbers because everything is, nothing is on real time. But if you going around meaning with that bag behind you and that push, it's gonna turn into real time because nobody can tell what's real until the fans actually either like you or you don't, that's how niggas flop. Don't that make sense? Or you going to a show. Or you going to a show. Or you going to a show. Yeah. But you can't tell me people ain't buying both views though. I know, I know plenty of people die. Oh, you put that out yesterday. I reposted it too, that you put that damn views out. Some people got 2.5 million views and can't do a show nowhere. Can't do a show. That's facts. I had niggas, I done had niggas in here then pull the cover over my damn mind. I'm over here dumb as hell. I saw it too. That's facts. You can't do anything. I didn't realize a nigga that bought all the damn numbers. Well, no, I ain't lying, am I lying? No, you ain't lying. Cause it's a business man. The talent don't matter. That's why that's hot. That's what makes what you saying so permanent. It's not about your talent. It's about your business. It's about the business and the people who are around you. A lot of people just hype. A lot of artists just all hype. They might can get 150 people to come out. That don't mean they're better than the niggas who can't get 10 people to come out. Lyrically, talent, I'm a business man. I ain't just an artist. I've been in the music a long time, but I just got into the business the last two or three years. So I understand it way different now. My music is just a bonus. Well, I just definitely, I hope- The music is just a bonus. And that's the generation that we're in because back then, people were just trying to be artists. They weren't trying to know all around. I mean, talent don't matter before or the end should go, but when it comes to- But now it's changed. It's changed. Oh, okay, talent, that's how you come up with your list. Talent does matter. Yeah. Now, talent, talent do fact in there. Yeah. Cause I think- Cause he have the 13- My wife is asking for that damn 13 people list. You wanna hear it? I still wanna hear it. I'm seeing who I'm gonna listen to. Hold on, man. I'm gonna pull out the 13. He takes the list, you hear? Oh. If I'm not spicy. Cause I know our listeners wanna know. Right here. I wanna know, I can't remember. You got it. You say I would crazy on the list. Lou say eight. Lou say eight? You know him? See, you don't know him. He down there. Who? HB. 903, you got Addy 300. Got SOS on site. You got Floody. You got Smitty. You got Kendall, KD. KDAK flame. You got T-rated done. Do you know these people? I know two or three of them. You got Shook for Gee. You got The Punching Brothers. And you got- Punching Brothers made that up. The Punching Brothers must be- Who the hell is The Punching Brothers? They made both lists. Yeah, that's- Joseph and Smooty? Yeah, Joseph and Smooty. Oh, they brought- Oh, Joseph and Smooty. Joseph is the same one we invited to one of our parties. I know Joseph. That, you know what I'm saying? We had a lot of different things that- Don't, don't, Joseph, what you pop? Joseph and Smooty? Yeah, so we know Joseph. We know Smooty. They're supposed to be in the list? Yeah, they're supposed to be on the list. Well, it's a lot of them people that just start rapping. They just start rapping. So I'ma say this as far as- Cause we ain't talking about them. I don't want nobody to feel no type of way. Shout out to everybody that made that list. But everybody on that list, no big- I don't went from swag boy rope, to rope, to ROE, Mr. Real over everything, to rope Tarantino. So my grind speak for itself. My grind of the years I've been grinding and making pretty legible music. I got a song called Relationship Goes with Sergeant B and Bo King. That's hotter than some of them people music owner. Cause I ain't never heard of them. When did you do that song? Did the song two, three years ago? See, but that's what, but the thing is, if this list is going off, what's going on Currit? Well, currently, when was the list made? I remember the list made. Let's see what we can remember. The list was made 29 weeks ago. 29 weeks ago. 29 weeks ago. I ain't good at, too good at the man. The weeks nigga got us all the way through. Anybody can tell us what he's doing. I go into my DM and look at where I didn't accept this nigga's. I'm just trying to know if big baby was out there cause big baby on seven radio stations right now getting paid. Big baby wasn't out there. Big baby wasn't out there, man. We wouldn't have missed you. Okay, yeah, y'all wouldn't have missed. But that whole, I live in though. You gotta, hold on, let's go back. I'm glad you said that. That's like seven months ago, I think. They're like. Look, yeah, I forgot you good at that. Yeah, she good at that. I got it calculated. She good at that. So I dropped big baby six months ago. So you just missed it. But look, hold on, hold on, let me go back. Let me go back. And I like that. I like what you're saying. Let me go back. Okay, I just dropped big baby. But I dropped a project called Broke Package with Dreams. Where hard living, lit and relationship goes. That's here. Lit was on three or four radio stations. Signed by the coalition DJ, signed by a few DJs out of here. Man, this stuff is built off relationships. If you don't have a relationship with some people, you won't make they list. I think, I think a lot of times you Cause it ain't based on talent. My list ain't built off no relationship. I'm just saying, I'm saying most of the time. Most of the time. So you don't hear people talking by road. Like I heard them sometime, but not a lot. Like as much as I heard them. I know KD Flame when I was Mama Scott. KD Flame used to call us and tell them my music was fine. I don't know him like that. But he's fine too. I think he's from Marshall or somewhere. But my point is he's from a new diamond. Oh, a new diamond. Okay, okay. Well, whoever is out here in this music, he's fine too. He's precious. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I like this man. You niggas, it's time. Hey, you didn't want to be on there. I'm gonna make me a damn list. You ain't about this to me. Show me. I'm gonna show. I'm gonna make my list. But you know what my list. Nigga, I'm gonna make me a list. My list. I feel like my list. When I make a list, this shit make nobody mad. Yeah, nah, nah. Like, okay, you don't see me now. I'm gonna show you. I like it. You see me now. So they should let you know. Yeah, you on Boss Talk 101, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Just to confirm what you see. And then they had a song called Big Baby, nigga. Just to confirm what you see. Yeah, nigga, we on. And we got an album just from the drop call, Lake Bloomer with 10 bangers on there. Well, we gonna see what the response gonna be. And that's the whole gang. Hey, hey, hey. And as he, what I told him, I told him about a hard living. Yeah, he said hard living. She's still beyond now. It is, but see, that's what, I'm glad you said that. Now he said that. Now listen, I'm glad he said that cause this bring me to the statement back to the other statement. If hard living been out for three years, two or three years, how can I not make that list? As you fuck with it. Nah, I ain't never stopped pushing it. You stopped pushing it. I ain't stopped pushing it. You stopped pushing it. Nah, I ain't stopped pushing it. I ain't stopped pushing it. I never stopped pushing hard living. It's been going up on YouTube. Well, how do you know if he's pushing it? Yeah, how you know if I'm pushing it? I just, cause all I've been seeing is Big Baby. I ain't been seeing it cause this bring me to the statement. He redone it. He's saying he's just redone it. I had no stand. I shot a video and everything too. Drone World started hip hop and everything. Not the YouTube heatseekers, but I don't know. Yeah, yeah. So that's all I'm saying. How can I miss any list if I was doing this before the list was created? That's all I'm saying. But don't you know that things feel so out road? Nah, well, your head don't feel so out. Never. Never. So you think that is okay? It's like right now you think y'all gonna make me lose my mind. It's cool. But it ain't gonna make that list though. T.I. was a hard rapper, but T.I. ain't done anything. T.I. ain't been doing nothing right now. Cause they have them laws on him. He up there a lot of time, them laws on him. Oh, so this a new wave list? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's like, it's like damn, they're like. Make sure y'all say, make sure you be specific about it then. 20 years down there. Yeah. Huh? You said what? I said, I know you've been rapping for about 10 or 20 years down there. How I rap for about 10 to 20? No, you've been rapping a long time. Nah, I've been rapping for about, 8 to 10 years. It's serious about five or six. Like with quarter down, that don't count. And the reason why it don't count, cause I was in a group, you didn't get to hear me so low. You feel me? Pull up on you right now. Them songs are still finna get reintroduced to the world. They can tell you after they do. I mean, so you can't never take away from certain things and say we gonna create something new and leave out what's not just old, but still in the mix, still grinding, still putting pressure on everything. Still on the radio stations. While the radio stations ain't saying they old. While the radio stations ain't playing, I'm still playing hard living. While the radio stations play playing, that's my little baby, we flyer than y'all. We stepped out in the mall, we shooting, we ball. That's my little baby, that's my little baby. That don't count, it don't matter no more. Man, I tell you man, Trio talk, when you do, show me how to do a listening. I don't do a listening, I don't wanna mess it up, you got a little list coming Friday. You got a little list coming Friday? What is it about? What's the title of that list? Well, you're in local media, some bad niggas with DVDs. Oh my little list, I wanna hear the title. Social media platform. Oh, I supposed to be on that list, niggas. I supposed to be on the top of that list. I got the best looking podcast and nothing. I ain't gonna make it, I don't got no social media platform. I'ma get over here and talk crazy man. It's like bloggers and YouTube pages. You know, you ain't no graphic or anything. Yeah, this is where I'ma be on the top of it. You got the most cameras in the entire niggas in the world. There's more pictures with... No, no, no, no, no, no, but I just came in. I ain't gonna be mad at your drill if I don't make the list. I'ma still rock with you, nigga. I ain't gonna be mad, I'ma work harder, nigga, because I'm gonna go, hey, my numbers is moving up and I'ma be like, you know what, I didn't make it this time, but then I'ma call you, I'll probably send you and your lady out to eat or something. Oh, you trying to bribe him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna see you trying to bribe him. Yeah, I'm coming to East Texas, we're going to J.B. Pittsburgh, I'll link over there, and he was praying, they're gonna feed you and your lady. Hey, come with me, man, come with me, man. Y'all are sick. Don't forget about me, too, man, yeah. I just love the fact that you guys, man, what's going on in East Texas is because of you guys like you. Y'all are the people that I see that make it worthwhile, man. East Texas never got the shine that it's getting right now, man, because of you guys putting that work in. You got a blogger down there now, somebody who putting out information every single day. I watched this guy work, and this guy's putting out stuff every single day, trying to make sure people notice what's going on with East Texas. So, hey, Trio, Trio talking no peal talk, man, when I do get you back up here, we gotta try to bless you, man. I always bless everybody, man. Right. Why is XO calling me right now? What is up with this, man? They're watching your show, man, they see what's going on, man. Yeah, man. Everybody want to call in now. XO, XO, I don't know if XO may be XO, Hot 2, XO, I don't know a lot of them. Hold on, XO, you called in the middle of boss talk, XO. XO? Okay. Yeah, you called in the middle. How you doing? We got you on here with Rowe Tarantino. Say what's up to Rowe. Get out there, Rowe. That's how long I've been grinding toward you. XO should have been on any list that XO go harder than some of them niggas. Some of them, man. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I got you right here. Hey, I got Trill Talk, No Pill Talk on here, who came out with a list for East Texas, man, and y'all two wasn't on it, and Rowe was upset, and I called Trill Talk because I'm friends with Trill Talk. I just wanted to, I wasn't upset. He wasn't upset. I was just passionate about my music, not social media, not, because I'm friends with somebody, not because I put a bag in them and stuff, but I'm passionate about my music. So hold up, hold up, let me make sure I'm on. I do music, that nigga got his shirt on, so I do music. I just shot the patchwork studio, just spend 10 bands on dropping my album. I do music. Oh, man. I don't do friendships, I don't do partnerships, I don't do loans, I don't get no, I don't be in nobody's face cause so they can put me on, I do music. I'm an artist. Well, this is good stuff here. I never would have seen this coming, man. This is very energetic. I want to be honest with you, I came up here thinking I was going to do a little show like I do with other people. This nigga done got his shirt off, he don't point. I don't believe nothing, I'm not fooling with you because that's his dad, it's just your dad. Oh, your uncle. That's my pops right there. Oh, yeah, you niggas running game on me, man. You niggas got, you niggas slick, man. We got to know if you keep running or not. Oh, okay. Yes, sir sir, we got enough to keep the seat off of us. So when somebody's talking or something like that. What, what, what is he talking about? Now, see, he can't hear anything, you don't look near him. He said, pop what? Pop jump. I was like, what's that pop know, baby? What's that, the X? But it's East Texas family union around this whole, man. These Texas drill clans, you hear it? Yeah, now, hey man, chill talk, man. You got to keep, you got to keep bringing them lists out, man, because I'm going to be calling you a lot. This was fun to me. Look at this was a good, thank you so much for answering. I will be calling you. You come out on the damn list. I'm going to go off on you, nigga. If you don't put me on, I want to be number one on the list, nigga. I don't give a damn about you and D mogul. You put yourself in number one and put me in number two. If you don't do that, then I know it's real. You should be number one on your own damn list, nigga. I never take it personal. I ain't never on none of them lists. Exo, so she never take exo, but you on my top of my list, nigga, if you need me, you call me. You should have been on this year ago, that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. I never take it personal. If that wasn't making this one, nobody from East Texas would be on no list. Oh, oh, yeah, see, you're right. If he hadn't made it, nobody wouldn't even have been on this. I'm just having time to show and kind of put the East Texas order on. He ain't putting no East Texas, nigga, but we don't have no East Texas order. But we do it real time, so we gonna bring it in. I like it, man. I like it, the fact that we do have something. He's bringing light to East Texas, period. Period, I like that. You see what I mean? No matter who is on there, he's bringing light to East Texas. My thing is, my whole point is East Texas got something to say, and they gonna hear that shit. Facts. Yeah, which is true. Nobody can disagree. Big facts. That's true. Yeah, XO, so you don't pay no attention to the list, but you show and know how to hop on songs and kill verses and explode on Balls Talk 101, you explode it. Yeah. As an artist, you will host too, but once they come out and you ain't on that, you can't take none personal, man. And it's been, there's no time for people on the list because of the relationships. You don't know why people want this or that. Yeah, well, see if they want it or not. You never say why. You never say that. Industry 101 facts. I don't know why, man. Nothing to do with everything. I know what I'm saying. Yes. I know what I'm saying. No list ain't gonna make or break me, you know, so I don't take your personal. Yes. Already. What you gonna do, XO, if you don't get on the list. Come up in here and go on. No, I gotta show it to you. Dead keys, dead keys, go on. Keep going and go on, so you're gonna make another hit single. Yeah, I can see what's happening. Why you enrolling, why you ain't doing nothing with them? We got some coming. We got some coming. Y'all got some coming. I just left the studio with them. Boy, that's what's up. Boy, that's what's up. You got the right nigga on there. This nigga here boy, you having a good time up here? You know, came by Boss Talks, this nigga here boy. Big Boss Talks. I have to come over here. Man, bro. Yeah. So, hey trio, man. Thank you for taking our call, man. We love what you're doing, man. You keep putting pressure on them lists. I'm gonna be looking for my name on that damn list. I don't wanna be at the bottom. I wanna be at the damn bottom. I spent all of my microphones cost $500 a piece. I got five cameras in here. Nigga do not put me on the bottom of that list. I'ma tell your mama on you, nigga. You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. Bob London interview, Boss Talks is the truth, man. No trust. Say, man, we gonna finish this interview up, man. We love y'all, man. XO, I'll hit you up after I'm done, okay? Hey, I need to interview some both of y'all. It's so in and wrong. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wanna interview both of y'all? Most definitely. So, trio talk, say he wanna interview you both of y'all. Most definitely. Call you. I'll be right now. Uh-oh, yeah. He's a dollar right now. I see the number, man. I'm gonna send a message to you right now. Okay, you got a number already? I'll put a message on IG. Okay, you gonna message on IG. That's what's up, man. IG right now. Well, y'all gonna set it up, man. That's how East Texas do it, man. We in the building. Trio talk. Man, that's what's up, man. That's what this all about. See, I'm gonna put it together. See, when I was down there, I can't really tell you what I used to do down there, but I bought all the niggas together. You know what I'm saying? It was bad, but I bought them all together. You know what I'm talking about? Everybody gotta come together when I come through, nigga, because I'm doing it better than everybody when I do it. So the same thing applies when we doing this boss talk 101 platform. We bring our people together, man. We love our people down there, man. Real talk, nigga. I came, this store wouldn't be here if it wasn't for East Texas, but this store. Shout out to Apple and Dangerfield, man, for selling them purses for me for so many years, man. Yeah, nigga. There were my purses, nigga. Shout out to all the people that stumped down for me in Carthage, man. My little cousin, R.I.P. DeKevyn, that was selling all them tennis shoes, man. We ain't gonna say where we got them from, but we gotta fill out the truck, you know. Shout out, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to all my people, man. All the people down there in Marshall, all the people in Mount Pleasant, Dangerfield, Hughes Springs, niggas, Orr City, niggas. Shout out to all them niggas, man. Marshall, Texas, man. Pittsburgh, Kielgo, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Suffer Springs, they in there, too. Everybody that supported E.C.O. when he was opening up them unique fashions all over Dallas, and in East Texas, in Marshall, in the Atlanta cast kind of shot out. You know what I'm saying? Right there by the cast kind of bank. You see, boy, E.C.O. Yeah, right down the street from his house. But that's just a little history, man. And that's what it's all about, man. Us holding each other up when we fall. Facts. You know what I'm saying? So what's up for Ro Tarentino on this top three, man? We do a top three segment here. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive, any genre. You gotta give me three artists. I don't want five. I don't want four. I don't want two. I want three artists. Top three artists of all time. This is your top three. From Ro Tarentino. Man, that's kind of hard. Everybody knew to say, hey, man. Listen, man, if it don't matter, you could be listen to Michael Jackson. I don't give a... It can be blue. It can be blue. It can be asphalt. It can be anything. I gotta say, I gotta say Pimp C for one. Woo! That's about it. Pimp C for one. Do you watch this show? No. Man, come on, man. No disrespect to nobody. You know what I'm talking about? No, no, no, why Pimp C? Go ahead and say why. I'm gonna say why. Go on. I'm gonna say because of that famous quote. You know what I'm saying? What he said, if you niggas come to Gilly, know how much money we could eat when all the niggas would be from there. Oh, knock it down. You hear me? Sure, am I surround? I'm up, yeah. Yes, sir. That was when he told them niggas there and everybody would be from the Houston, had the wave and if the niggas could have came together and knew how much money they could have had and how much they could have ate, like coming up as a youngster and understanding the game. I was like, I knew what he meant, but I know what he means so much now as I'm more mature and more become my own man. It's like, that's, that's. He had a lot of time. Well, a lot of this is designed to separate us. That's right. It's all designed, anything, success breeds jealousy. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And when you understand that, you understand how important it is to help somebody else or to be that vessel that connect things. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Connect to it. So I'm gonna say Pimp C for that matter. Pimp C first. Number two. And then Tupac, now that I understand his, I didn't like his music at all when I was young. I was like, this nigga need to, I don't know what this is. Yeah. Respect him so much more now. After you went and listened to it again. Well, now that I'm more mature. I understand what his message is. I understand what he was telling us about the, the government and all this crazy stuff. Like, yeah, it sound crazy, but it's so true and so legit. Yeah, yeah. So he was so enlightened in the head of his time. That's everybody says that. He was so, definitely enlightened. Yes, to know he was 25, I was older when he died, but yeah. Yeah, boy, shout out to that boy to say UGK. Pimp C by himself. Number three. Number three, man. Number three. You said dead or alive? Yes. Man, I don't wanna step on no toes with this, man. Man, say it. Let it out. That boy at mode three was so hard, man. My co-host would love you for that, cause he said that. I'm just being honest, musically, it's a lot of stuff I don't condone in that he was on with musically and singing and harmony. You can see right now the harmonies and the rap is in together. So you gotta be able to be melodic and be a good rapper, too. Wow. And ultimately, I mean, he was hard. I can respect you as long as you was listened to, like I told my friend. I don't wanna be listened to him, though. That's the key. No cap. No disrespect. You never listened to him? I listened to him. What the hell are you gonna say the best if you ain't listened to him, bro? Nah, I didn't say he was the best. No, his top three, he didn't say that. It doesn't have to be the best. You didn't listen to him. Nah, let me say, I do listen to, I have listened to some of his stuff, but he is not. You could have been here wanting two of them. Yeah, but he hard, though. He hard, cause he can, see, he can really sing, too. Yeah. We sing that. You know what I'm saying? He can really, he can really sing, sing. That last one was Bobby Billions, boy, I said. Oh, man, yeah, he hard. I don't condone it, none of the extras, but he hard, and again, I might've left a lot of people out, but I just came the most three, cause he gone right now. And it's crazy, cause he getting so much shine that he gone and he was kind of this hard when he was here. But it's like, he done, that makes me think you are worth more dead than you are alive. Even with Nipsey, it was the same way. Like I went, we went to Nipsey's shop before everybody was putting roads out there. We met his parents and his father and his family there. We went out there and rock with him when he was living. We didn't go up there after he was dead. I met Black Sam there. That's how I built, I met Nipsey at Palm's hotel. You know, that's why I be at, man. That's my thing. Niggas know me from Palm. Big boss. Yeah, I be at the Palm, right? You know what I'm saying? Me and my wife been going there since old Sam. I think they closed that thing down. They been pumping right back up when this everything pop over. But anyway, yeah, yeah, that's where, that's where a lot of the stuff went down. Man, I didn't even realize the three people I named was dead. Yeah, but that's cool. That's fine. I mean, that's crazy. It's gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay. I know, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? One thing I can tell you is the one that you picked number one. Yeah, UGK, man, you know what it is, man. The one that you picked number two. Yeah, Tupac is hard. Tupac is hard. Hey, you know what it's crazy? Mow through your mom, you're a Tupac. Man. Is that crazy? Ned, I started like, how? How? Not his music. He predicted his own situation. Yeah, okay. He talked about his own situation. He, you know, he was real flamboyant with certain things that, I don't know if they was, I've been hearing about this Gemini thing, a lot of people. There's Tupac a Gemini? I don't know. I don't know. No, he don't know. June 16, 1971. Okay, okay. Mama gave birth to a hell-raising heavenly son. But see the doctor. Yeah. But June, June is from here. June 16. That's Gemini. Isn't June. June 16. June 16, man. No, he ain't a Gemini, but God knows. Calc so something, man. Yeah, he was there. No matter what he was, I know he was born June 16. That song was not to be played with. We gotta find out what that is. She's from the find out. I ain't think she's been born. June 16. I mean, he in Gemini, Camo 3 was me. What's Gemini? Ah, look at this. You don't tap it in. I don't know. You don't tap it in. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I like the way you, I like the way your energy is. I knew it already, man. Sometimes you know already before you even deal with something like we deal with. We know already, you know that, you know the energy. Right. We talked on the phone, man. Absolutely. Real stumped down, real, real credible. I seen your music. I seen the wave. Like I said, I didn't tap in soon enough but God know what he doing. I tapped in when he needed me to. Absolutely. You know, I like, I like what you're doing, man. And where you come from, man and making the waves that you're doing. I see great things in you, man. I can tell that this thing is, your passion got to stay there though. And I know it will, you know. Your passion got, your energy got to stay there. You got to, when you enter these stages in these rooms and ain't talking about on the stage when you're rapping. I'm talking about talking and dealing with these people, man. You got to be on your A game. And I think what you said earlier about reading more. Yeah. That's so important, man. Very important. I like your advice to the kids. I don't know what you said. Yeah, that was good. See, because I heard this and I didn't take it for, I didn't take it serious but to about what like a year, about two, three years ago. They say, if you want to keep something from a black man putting in the book. I've always heard that. And I didn't like that. So I had to go find out what was in these books. And I even do audio books. Oh, I go find and deal with the people who have read all these books that'll be willing to give you the information. Because sometimes you don't have to read. You can just go find out who has read this and follow them. Get they message. But today we are in such better condition whereas information-wise. Yes, like the internet, right? Reading, right. Reading a book can be boring. People fall asleep and don't get what you're saying. You can go on YouTube and actually have somebody explain the book. Yes. So you don't have to actually go and read the book for yourself. YouTube is such a great platform that you can find out everything. You can learn anything. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And there's so many teachers on there about the same topic. So if you don't resonate with one person, you just keep searching. You'll find somebody that- That you can resonate with. Exactly. Absolutely. And you also gonna find out that basically, you know, you keep Googling stuff. They gonna tell you a damn nick by the phone. You know what I'm saying? Y'all been leaving a damn Google. You ain't lying. Let's mess it with symptoms and all that. Don't do that. Yeah, don't do that. You just thank you for the die tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. Say it, man. Say it, man. This is the way. He too chaffed in, man. You ain't lying. I have one last question for you. Okay. I know you said you were in two groups before when you started. Yeah. You are talented. Why you did the group thing? Why didn't you go solo from the beginning? Man. I don't give you the whole real reason. I'ma give you some of it though. Why? Nah, cause I don't wanna expose nobody. But I'ma say it like this right here. You don't have to call no names. Some people wanna have leverage over you so they get other artists and other people to be around you. So if you leave them, they have other options. You know what I'm saying? So ultimately, the group that was formed around me, it's called quarter gang, HQ quarter gang, shout to everybody in the group. Y'all already know how we rockin', how we movin'. But I didn't go solo cause I felt like I needed a, we felt like we didn't have the support system. So as we picked these, handpicked these guys that we felt like was the hardest in the city and the best fit for our situation and all of them was family at that. It was like, it really helped me though. Because I wasn't this musically inclined. Like I was, I hadn't tapped into it yet. Let me say that. But different people around me helped me tap into it. You know what I'm saying? I tapped into the streets from my nigga, Dunvo and JV, you know what I'm saying? I was in the street but not with certain things. So I tapped into that side with them. I tapped into my harmony side for my brother, Zilla. Shout out to my brother Huncho too. He put me, I was already on the pimping shit though. You know what I'm saying? But he put me a little bit farther into it. Like, what they better do, what you gon' tell them to do, they gon' do what you tell them to do. And that's just like the world right now. Like the girls shaking, they gon' do what you tell them to do. Subcultures, they don't know it. But they gon' do it. Because most people like being told what to do. So it was just like I picked up some from everybody in the group. Do you feel me? And that's how you get big Tino. You know what I'm saying? Ro Tarantino, see, the Tarantino come from Quentin. Shout to Quentin Tarantino. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't just take it from him but I'm directing my own movement. So that's where you see the Tarantino come in. Ro Tarantino, my name Cadero. So you get the Ro from Cadero and Tarantino for me directing my own musical movement, my own everything I'm doing, I direct it. Like I direct it the whole living video. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Juan Vizsles. I wrote him a whole script. Juan Vizsles, shout out to you, nigga. I don't see your phone. Yeah. Yeah, but I wrote the whole script. You're nigga, I'm boss talk today. Yeah, we on boss talk today and we talking boss talk for real today. Yeah, man. But that's the reason why I asked that question because a lot of people who maybe wanted to start but don't have the confidence to go on their own. So they prefer to start in a group to build themselves up. Hell, you talking about that new addition story. No, no, no, no, but then I see you go from one group to the next. Normally people normally leave from that one group and go solo. Well, I was solo. So it was a nice time lapse within that. When I, like I said, the first group that I went was in the rap group, I'm still with them. I'm still my family. Like them other people, they still my family too but we all took different, we don't really hang out as much no more. I hang with everybody in that first group still right to today, my sister, my brother Scram, my brother D Money, my brother Courtney. You know what I'm saying? I still hang with Dunvaux sometimes. So everybody a little back here in jail, like everybody that was in that first group, we still see each other at least once a week. Let me ask you a question. And I can say this title on my own. So I'm always be a pleasant for your player. I don't know how much money you have but just hybrid that you get a million dollars. What are you gonna do? I'm gonna invest before I do anything. Yeah. I'm not gonna buy my mom or my house because my house ain't that much. You know what I'm saying? What would you invest in? Real estate, truck driving. I'm also like, I don't know. I always said my first million that I was gonna put a youth center back in my city but I understand now I ain't gonna, I can't go broke. I can't go put my whole first million back into the city. Well that's what, yeah. I'm gonna invest it. I'm gonna invest like half of it, half a million. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get some more. I don't wanna tell everybody my ideals but people got some money. It doesn't even be real with you. If you want it, then you need to write it out and act like you gonna get it. Oh I already did that. I just don't be, another thing I learned people steal your ideas. That's right. Some people got the money already and they'll wanna know what your mind said that with it. So you know what I'm saying? What you gonna do with it? I'm like, I ain't 100% know what to do. But for the most part, I have a very thorough- You gotta write the vision and make it plain. Yes, I got a business partner too who already got, helped me with half of the vision. You know what I'm saying? And to be honest, like I said, it's so many things that you can invest in. Invest into some crypto. Like man, it's just, I wouldn't splurge. I'm not going to spend it all on chains and cars. I'm not doing that. Now I might do that after I'm 10 million up. Okay. You know what I'm saying? 10, 20 million up. But I've been gonna help so many people that I have a jeweler making me jewelry for free. You know what I'm saying? I'm just being real like. I like it. I like it. I just asked you a question just to understand where you was heading with it on all sides, man. Like I said, you're very, very, very energetic. I believe your heart is in the right place. And that's the most important thing. Thanks, I appreciate it. Like I said, you got a whole brand going here, you know? You on TikTok? Yeah. Yes, sir. But he said it's social media presence is not that hard right now. Why? Well, you know, a lot of people, well, it's really hard. I was being funny since I got excluded from not having social media. No, no, no. You gotta trust your father. Trust him. Let me say something about that and this is why we talk about it. Sometimes you do know those lists is to create controversy, right? Correct. We talking about him right now, right? Yeah. He's the talk of this show in a sense. Yeah. I'm a businessman. I'm not a rapper. Yeah. I'm an artist who know the business. Yeah. I don't know everything. I know enough to get me on this show to create marketing. I ain't on no damn list. If you're gonna come out with a list and it's gonna be controversy. You're gonna be on there, trust me. You ain't gonna... You know what? If that nigga don't put me on the list, nigga, I am the list, nigga. You don't do my... I ain't controversy. In fact, that's what I see. I am the list. Because look, controversy sells, man. Yeah. And that's another reason why I probably didn't make no list because I ain't talking about killing niggas. I ain't talking about shit that people want you to talk about. I'm talking about my life. It might not be interesting to you, but it's gonna be interesting to the world once they hear it. It's interesting. I make worldly music. It's interesting to me. I don't make music for my partner. I don't make music for my city. I don't make music for my team. I make worldly music. I make music that can get people through the day. I make music that people can relate to. I make music that if you're going through something, you might be like, damn, I try to make music to get you through the day. I also talk about what I'm actually doing. I don't talk about no fiber gas. And I'm not finna say things that I'm not doing. I just don't believe in it. That's why my name is Mr. Reelove Everything, Kedura, R.L.E. Everybody don't stand for that. So you can make, like I got a gun and I'll it, but I ain't totally glizzy looking for ops. I don't have no ops. You don't have no ops? I don't have no ops. I sure am glad you don't because you can't be up around me with your ops. I don't have no damn ops. I don't know nobody know. Yeah, I don't have no ops. I got some secret ops though. You know what I'm saying? Some secret ops, people that sit around and you know what I'm saying? And try to talk about, see I'm covered though. So I ain't even get them no credit card. I'm covered in the blood. So anything you want to do to me, God gonna make a way where somebody come in and Ving talk to you or you get yourself hurt. You ain't gonna be able to see me, aren't they, if you're coming with good. God turn it to good. God gonna turn it to good. Every time, I always like to try to bless everybody that's really talented to come through here. You know that, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna have to come back to town and we're gonna have to really, you know what I'm saying? Hang out, you know, y'all even let Big Boss Talk come on that video shoot, I love getting out here. I would like to invite Big Boss Talk to my album, to my album release man, next on the May 29th, it's gonna be at the Cajun Divist Center. It's gonna be crazy. It's in a little town called Dangerfield. Help your man stop, you don't make me get, you don't make me get. You don't make me get, I don't make because you live in Path. That shit was over there the other day. You know maybe they got back in the neighborhood, I'm telling you, if something was over there the other day, one of the big money niggas over there, yeah, who was that over there the other day doing the concert? Oh, oh. That big money niggas over there. What you talking about, pops? I think you talking about that the trail round. Yeah, boo boo. Boothie? No, it wasn't, it was like, it was one of them, you had to look, who that took a picture with somebody the other day? They was on Instagram stunting with the nigga too. From Caucasus? The nigga was in Douglasville, that's why he was there. He wasn't in Dangerfield, he was in Douglasville. I didn't know what you're talking about, it was a trail ride or something like that. Yeah, it was one of them rappers down there performing, they done put that money up for that boy, put it, get that boy that bag. Yeah, for sure. How's them trail rides, man? I don't go to them. I've never been the one in my life. Me neither. Really? Nah, I don't do, man, that's too open, too much open field and drinks are on the limit, that's too many drinks and all that's gonna create problems, man. Some people be telling me, oh no, it's a grown folks thing. I'm like, I hear that a lot of young people be going and acting the fool. Yes. And some of them grown folks be acting the fool. Anybody going to act the fool if you consume too much alcohol? Too much alcohol. And you stayed there too long, with no security? Yeah. Like you might have security, but if you have a trail ride, if I throw a trail ride, I'ma have police all around there. They can say, there's gonna be police on the outside for you to come in. It's gonna be police on the inside when you come in and it's gonna be gated. And it's gonna be, they're gonna get strictly searched. Cause I don't know if they get searched or not. I don't really know how they work, but for the most part, nah, I don't like, I just be, I just be trying to stay out the way, man. Cause I got, cause I feel like what guy got for me, you know, everybody came, everybody came to be a part of that. So if I understand that, then I need to understand, I need to move different. That's true. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to East Texas. Shout out to HD, he's HD. Hold on. Tell me what it is, big baby. Roll up, less chill, big baby. Try, try to get a meal, big baby. So you can catch me in the field, big baby. Little Nick Drip South, big baby. Big, big, Tully, I'ma drive, big baby. Hey man, this been another great segment of Bones Talk. 101, that's how I wanted to go out. Cause I can do that. This is my show, nigga. I do what I wanna do, oh yeah. You do what you want when you're back to me. Howl at your boy, it's a unique hustle.