 to the to the so your AT&T account is not an heirloom it's not an heirloom you can't pass it down no it's not heirloom gear it's not heirloom gear it's epic not heirloom yeah that epic consider you couldn't use it for Pokemon Pokemon doesn't even use that much data it just uses more battery than data yeah it does but I've been it's been worked the apps been working a lot better for me since I've been back but I'm like I'm never gonna level up I'm only stupid level eight still Eileen and I wasted so much time okay Eileen has an iPhone 6 plus mm-hmm s iPhone 6 s plus I have an iPhone 6 so mine is an older generation and a smaller phone same and Eileen gets LTE more often than I do oh that's weird yeah is it the antennas I mean the battery obviously lasts longer too but yeah I'm wondering about that because there are a couple of times this weekend where she was able to get LTE and I could only either get 4g or sometimes no service I was like how's that happen yeah anyway I need to level I was thinking I was going to put bodega's harness on and strap my phone to her and then just take her out to go play fetch and have her run to have her run around and catch my eggs yeah yeah I actually have mine on when I run with Sawyer that's smart but I'm also running so it's not like Sawyer really has anything to do with it yeah can't you just take it out of the paint store and have them put in the paint shaker it's bodega's birthday I have to go distance though I'm not sure if the paint shaker register you can put it on a merry-go-round I might do it oh I could put on a lazy Susan there's a Chinese restaurant happy birthday bodega oh yeah sushi boat take it to sushi you just let this ride thanks yeah you know no all right I'm about ready to do this show are you about ready to do this show y'all yeah cool it works you got yeah give you control you should be good right all right here we go daily tech news show oh I should press record daily tech news show is powered now I you left daily tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support this is the daily tech news for Monday July 25th 2016 I'm Tom married joining me today Veronica Belmont in the house welcome back from your travels thank you I did we were just talking before the show you didn't catch a lot of Pokemon in Italy because of the data plan I know and there it was riddled with Pokemon it was unbelievable the the number it's healthy with Pokemon there since Roman times and we just now are discovering them ancient ancient Pokemon yes all right that is not the last we'll hear about Pokemon go but the next reference of it will be regarding financials so those of you who are done hearing about Pokemon go it won't be talking about the game so much that because you know what it always happens Veronica I don't want to get too far tangent here at the top but there's always a topic that gets a lot of coverage and the people who are really into it appreciate that coverage right but but it is a legitimate topic and gets covered for a while and but people who aren't as into it get tired of it and they get angry I experienced it myself when I don't care about so we understand but at the same time like I remember running into it for the first time when I was interning at morning edition at National Public Radio and Nina Totenberg came in and was pitching a story about Yugoslavia and the war happening in Serbia and Croatia and one of the producers like I'm just so tired of Serbia it's exactly the same yeah it's not exactly the same that was the joke yeah but anyway so anyway that's just all a long way of saying we feel your pain but we also you know we got we got to try to cover the things that are big so let's do that starting with our top stories and we were we were right well we weren't right I as and I talked about the rumors Verizon announcing that they would buy Yahoo and Monday morning Verizon communications announced it has agreed to buy Yahoo's core internet operations for $4.83 billion in cash so a little more than what they paid for AOL Yahoo will integrate with AOL under the supervision of Marnie Walden she's the EVP and president of the product innovation and new business organization Myer Marisa Myer to the rest of you said in a memo to Yahoo staff that she is planning to stay now we'll see how long that lasts after this acquisition is completed of course it's subject to regulatory approval and such Yahoo's remaining assets are estimated to be worth $41 billion and what's left after Verizon buys the core business is a 15% stake in Alibaba 35.5% stake in Yahoo Japan some cash the non-core patent portfolio it's not that Yahoo doesn't take any patents to Verizon but they only take the patents that apply to its core business other patents that they own will stay with the holding company and that company will be rebranded because Verizon is buying the name Yahoo as well. Wow so they're so they're gonna stay Yahoo or how is the naming gonna work? Well Verizon will get the name Yahoo but the company that's left holding stock and patents will no longer be called Yahoo even though technically that is Yahoo right Yahoo is just selling a part of itself to Verizon but one part of that is the rights to use the name Yahoo. Yeah this is pretty crazy I mean especially since Verizon acquired AOL of course which was you know Yahoo's biggest competitor and so now Verizon has Yahoo and AOL and the ad business there is just obscene. I mean this is gonna be really big for Verizon as well as all the media stuff that it controls now as well. Now one of the things we've talked about for years especially in regards to net neutrality conversations is the idea that Verizon and AT&T and Comcast don't want to be done pipes. This is Verizon executing on that like saying well it kind of looks like we're gonna be stuck being done pipes on the internet side of things so let's diversify and now Verizon is shaping up to be a competitor with Facebook and Google because of what you just said. It's going to be an ad tech company with a ton of content like imagine TechCrunch and Huffington Post gracing the front page of Yahoo suddenly Yahoo starts to feel a little more vibrant. You know Marissa Mayer staying there is kind of surprising. I feel annoyed now that I didn't watch her Bloomberg interview with Emily Chang earlier today because I feel like that would have been in more enlightening but I feel like her her talents could probably be better used elsewhere. I don't know. I hope she lands somewhere really great. Well it's interesting. I feel like she kind of has to say I'm gonna stick around through the transition. Yeah it's a vote of confidence. Yeah exactly. Whether she then wants to become CEO somewhere else with this sort of mixed record now she never turned around Yahoo but it didn't get precipitously worse although it's value declined. So most people look on her reign as largely a failure but it's not an abject failure. So maybe another company would say well she was in an impossible situation. Let's give her another chance. Does she want to do that though or would she say well you know what I left Google because I couldn't move up in the ranks there the way I wanted to. Maybe in Verizon I can get to a rank that is more appropriate for me even if it's not a CEO position. Maybe she could continue to run the Yahoo division for instance. Although Tim Armstrong's there running AOL so we assume that he's gonna take over both. Yeah I think that's something about she was gonna stay in you know the she was gonna do the product side of stuff but who's to say I just you know it was Yahoo was a tough ship to sail and even for me now it's hard to say that it was a failure on her part because I don't know if she was ever set up for success. Yeah I think Leona said in a chart room really well it didn't get better it didn't get worse it was static not dynamic and people wanted dynamic so people who want dynamic can call it a failure because they didn't achieve that but but yeah it's it's it's not it's it's a tough position to be in and maybe it would be good for Marissa Meyer to be able to have a large role in Verizon on the product side like you said somehow it'd be interesting to see what she does. And now for your Pokemon news of the day in a press release after the close of business on Friday Nintendo said that despite Pokemon go success the financial impact of Nintendo's 32% stake in the Pokemon company game would be limited therefore Nintendo did not change its guidance of an annual net profit of 35 billion yen in the current fiscal year up from the 16.5 billion yen it earned last year. Nintendo's stocks sank 18% on Monday the maximum allowed by the Tokyo Stock Exchange and the largest for the company since 1990 but we do have to remember too but they had been up like tremendously after the success of Pokemon go but it seems as though investors just didn't realize what small stake Nintendo actually had in the game. Yeah I mean they poured a lot into taking the gym of Nintendo's stock price and leveling it up only to find that they were susceptible to a larger monster. Look I think what happened here I'll let you'll see a lot of headlines out there saying stockholders realize Nintendo doesn't own Pokemon right and sell stock it's not exactly what happened to be fair to people a lot of folks thought that Pokemon go was such a success that Nintendo would revise its earnings upwards and what Nintendo is saying is we figured it would be a success we included that in our guidance and nothing we're getting from the Pokemon company or Niantic shows us that our guidance is wrong so we nailed it we predicted just how successful it was going to be and that's why people are selling they're like ah we thought we thought the profit guidance would go up if it's not then it's we think it's overvalued but like you said it's still Nintendo stock still worth more than it was. Yeah and I think that's that's great but I have seen reports today that the daily active users for Pokemon go is starting to level out so maybe we're on the you know the downward trend now or at least the the maintainable level of usage so that was that do we have money on that he was the he's you know Mitsula our resident odds maker for the Diamond Club and Chat Realm he yeah I didn't put any money on it but he would have he would have given you odds I can't remember exactly what they were Android police notes the rollout of two new features the Google Maps for Android a Wi-Fi only option that will only use downloaded maps when you're on a cellular data connection and a feature that seems to be rolling out slowly based on your account so you may not see it yet but once you see it it should work on every logged in instance of Google Maps that you have and then a second feature which kind of appeared and then disappeared it allowed for customizable mass transit delay notifications to show up so if you're using the mass transit option you could say like tell me if the Anjuda is late again so I'm gonna get notifications all the time and run down my battery apparently but yeah it would it would give you those kind of notifications that one showed up for a user the slider didn't work and then when they relaunch the app it went away I you know related unrelated I was thrilled by how well offline Google Maps worked on mobile while I was away it was a game changer being able to have downloaded those maps before we left because Wi-Fi was so unreliable and I didn't want to use data so it's nice to be able to get around did you ever because what this solves is the I want to have my connection on my cellular data connection on but I don't want to now I can't use maps because I don't want maps to use that connection yeah and I've got offline maps would would you have used this or were you like well I just turned cellular data off while I use the maps yeah I think I think I just preferred having cellular data off completely while using the maps because I wasn't using it for anything else at the same time though if I needed to keep my phone on in case you know my husband and I were separated for some reason and needed to get in touch with each other then that would have been definitely beneficial I remember using a third-party app that only had downloaded apps but still could use your GPS and that had really that was really helpful when I was going around Italy myself because I could still tell where I was but I could keep my data off I definitely would have used this on Google Maps they didn't you couldn't download the offline maps on Google Maps yet when I was there last time so that already is a revelation my turn right yes it is yes the Wall Street Journal says it sources say Apple has chosen longtime veteran Bob Mansfield to head its electric vehicle project often referred to as project Titan Mansfield led hardware and engineering for the early iPads the iMac and the MacBook Air yeah he's often some people call him the blue-collar Apple guy you know because he's the engineer he's the man he's the mechanic guy he's he doesn't appear in the in the sense of feeling like an elite in the way that maybe Steve Jobs or Tim Cook have in the past and he also is not an automotive expert yeah it is an interesting choice what there it's what seems to be happening is they're saying Bob is really good at talking to engineers and getting them to execute on a vision it's not like he was particularly a tablet guy either so this may be a good choice if he can rely on the expertise of the automotive people and say all right let's make this happen cars seem like such a different animal though I mean like though I guess jumping from from desktop PC to to laptops to iPads to motor vehicles is maybe not that crazy these days considering how high-tech they are and how connected they are but there's still a lot more going on there like a lot more going on there that well yeah it's it's not I can follow you down that road like oh phones to tablets to in in dash system right that part makes sense to me but the part that the in dash system is controlling is so much different right a phone an iPad a laptop they're all basically controlling processors that display things on screens and allow for connectivity with the internet the car has an engine and brakes and hydraulics and an electric vehicle so I guess the charging part of that is just a more complex version of what you do in your devices but I don't I don't have any clue how much that impacts that platform and how much he can say like you guys just make sure that that car works well and I'll make sure that our team has an interface that can manage it very well yeah I mean the the job of being of heading a big project like that like you said is is being an expert delegator and so if that's what his specialty is if he can manage the overall vision of the product and be able to find the right people to do the things he needs to do then that's you know that's great he's an engineer so you know again I don't know how far that translates but he can speak to the mind of an engineer and I would assume that he is closer to being able to talk to an automotive engineer and then he would be to a salesperson or someone in an entirely different discipline so yeah researchers at the MIT computer science and artificial intelligence lab and Israel's Weitzman Institute of Science have developed 3d movie tech for theaters that does not require glasses yeah a complex set of lenses and mirrors can address all the viewing angles in the theater the trick is that you know where the theater seats are right so with a TV you have to figure out every angle that might possibly view it with a theater you're like okay these are the angles we can build for that the theater seats aren't going to move so they don't have to split the signal as many times that means you don't get the dimming effect that means they can support a higher resolution only only problem right now only ready for a very small theater prototype is the size of a letter size notepad oh tiny that's right that's also that letter size notepad needs 50 sets of mirrors and lenses but oh the researchers believe they can scale it up so okay not ready for the market yet that would be game changer for me I loathe wearing the glasses and they're always filthy they're always filthy I have my own pair you know but they only work in certain theaters right you have to have like six pairs depending on what theater you're going to I know you're on one I took my my real D Star Wars collectible 3d glasses to the wrong theater one time I was like these don't work I know I bring them to every theater just in case you know I like messed up and it's the right kind but I've never invested in the prescription versions because I know that it's a never you never know what you're gonna get you have to be very particular about which 3d theaters you go to anyway I'm excited that's gonna be great would probably get it from like another 10 years or something whatever I've stopped caring about 3d at all and I lean my wife actively does not want to see the 3d movies always makes me sick does it everything makes her sick she's just like I just know it doesn't look as good it's it's weird I have to put on the glasses she doesn't like wearing the glasses either and so I wonder how much of a change this would be it's okay it takes away all of those problems with having to wear wear something which maybe make it better but still some people don't like the the 3d effect and get nausea etc yeah well I'm excited for the future what a time to be alive yeah I'm I don't know I'm interested to see once it gets to theater size screens what this looks like my turn I you're a Paul is teaming up with Intel security Kaspersky Kaspersky I've never been able to see Kaspersky Kaspersky labs and the Dutch national police to create no more ransom org the site will help victims of ransomware connect with police and get advice on and help with data recovery yeah so right ransomware is becoming a huge problem bigger issue one of the things the site is gonna do is say of the the known ransomware that's out there we have decryption software for some of it not for everything but but you might want to check there and find out oh okay I can actually download this software decrypt my hard drive and never have to pay anybody so so that's good and just being able to connect with the police and say you know we fell a victim to this what can we do is is helpful as well yeah I mean this is there's a really great episode of reply all all about ransomware and about a couple of people's experience with their data being held ransom by what they assumed I think what they figured out were Russians but you never know really always whenever they say it was Russians or it was Chinese I tend to doubt it not because I don't think it could be true it might but everyone always uses Russian and Chinese IP addresses and everyone is is not everyone lots of people are very quick to point figures that the Russians in the Chinese so it's really hard to know when it's actually people in those countries which does happen and when it's just somebody assuming that because they did legit talk to someone who used to work at one of those like buildings where they're all just in there and that's all they do all day is is ransom off data yeah and that's totally for real right it's not yeah it's not it's not like that doesn't happen it's one of those things where like enough truth starts to build up a lot more fiction on top of it yes yeah but anyway very cool thing if especially if you're in Europe I can take advantage of the police aspect of this no more ransom org thanks to all those who submit things to our subreddit and vote on them you guys rock it helps us put the stories together if you haven't dived in go to daily tech news show dot reddit com and join film man 132 a you tiger fan Steve I owe the lazy one not that lazy submitted things in the subreddit Motang is in their drew CPU and more at daily tech news show dot reddit com that concludes our top stories I don't mean to insult the main story of the day when I don't call it a top story since we go those at the top of the show but this one's pretty interesting soft banks gonna roll out a hundred pepper robots in Taiwan later this year some insurance companies are taking them on some banks are taking them on these are all enterprise rollouts you can't get one in your home yet although you can in Japan which is interesting the car for essay shops are gonna put two of them in and help people who come into the shop looking for for things soft bank hopes to rent out 60 robots a month by the first half of 2017 Fox cons per robot company is in charge of sales and maintenance in Taiwan and says pepper is available for lease on a two-year contract at twenty six thousand eight hundred eighty eight dollars Taiwanese that's about eight hundred thirty six dollars sixty seven cents a month what was that gasp the gasp was you said you said paro paro and paro is paro is the baby seal robot that helps people in hospitals and it's my favorite robot well and that's a great point that you love a robot already you're particularly qualified to talk about this today but also it's not like pepper is the only one peppers getting a lot of attention because soft banks behind it and it's out there ahead of some of these others but hattachi has their own called emu three that one's coming in 2018 obviously Honda had as a mo for years although it came in for some criticism because it didn't prove to be very helpful in Fukushima and a lot of people thought it would be but Honda is actually working with soft bank to take some of the artificial intelligence used to develop pepper and put it into products with sensors and cameras that converse with drivers so that the pepper personality would be in your Honda and you would feel a friendship with your car like Michael Knight well this is exciting because it's you know this is this kind of fits in with a lot of stuff we've been talking about recently about artificial intelligence and natural language processing and and computers being able to to talk to people in a convincing way you know not maybe not necessarily touring test passing but close enough that you can actually get some stuff done which is great but now we're starting to see some of the physical realizations of this kind of technology out there in the real world and to me it makes a whole lot of sense that this is going into kind of the customer service realm and and kind of interfacing with people too in ways that regular humans might not necessarily want to and with pepper is ability to kind of sense mood swings and and shifting emotions in humans it could actually be really beneficial for for that kind of industry now I know you're into the bots like chat bot type things this is sort of an extension of that where you basically take bot functionality and you put it in a physical robot that that's exactly what I just said yeah I mean that's a hundred percent but but you can't get that kind of emotional sensing that you get in pepper with a bot right so well no I mean there are some ways that you can you can do you know being able to read text and get a sense of the emotion that the person is typing you know that's something that's even hard for humans to do but there are ways that you can kind of parse sentence structure and word choice and you know speed at which text is inputted and and all sorts of different variables for for figuring that stuff out so but the robot does have the physical robots do have the added benefit of being able to see the person and you know you could do anything from temperature testing you know if someone's if the skin on a person like if their temperature goes up you know that's a that's a sign of potential anger or frustration or elevated blood pressure there's so many different ways that robots can kind of interface with us in meat space and figure out what we need from them which is like the biggest problem that chat bots also have to deal with this figuring out what the person wants so what about this you're chatting with your banks bot and you're and it's having a hard time figuring out what you want or maybe I don't even know why but but at some point in the conversation that seems natural the bot says well why don't you come into the branch and let's talk and you can go to the bank branch and sit down with pepper or emu or or a panda bot and and then start talking in person to the chat bot that you were chatting with but it can now read your facial expressions and start to take contextual cues you get the satisfaction of feeling like you're getting one-on-one reaction more than just through the text message like that seems like a really fascinating merger of these two spaces yeah it is fascinating you know it's it's kind of like when you call customer service line and you have to talk to the the intelligent agent on the other end of the phone which is just a voice that's a phone tree you know those are programmed to understand what you're saying like they can tell but you know if you just start screaming at it they really should just say you know I'm gonna get you a person I'm gonna get you a human right about now and tell that kind of stuff but they could get you a pep or bot I really think that the cuter we make robots the better it will be for their ultimate survival I think that you know if we're not throwing like like pepper across the room well peppers probably pretty heavy if I remember correctly you know it's like if you're getting angry on the with the bot on the phone and then it says why don't you come in and then you come in and it's like got this like super niatani large eyed panda and you just the anger just melts out of you yeah that would be great and problem resolved you know pepper is actually going to be working as a cashier in select pizza locations in Asia Pacific another situation where you could chat with the bot over the internet to order your pizza see at this point though why not just give me a touch interface why do I need to talk to anything if I'm in person ordering something easier did you watch you got to watch the video because I was thinking the same thing and the pepper even has a tablet now I was like well I could just reach over and touch but it does seem so much nicer to just say like yes I would like okay it's a pizza hut so yes I would like a 12 inch pepperoni pizza and pepper just suddenly checks it without touching the screen the screen just checks and you're like oh yeah no I see that pepper got it right I didn't have to reach over I didn't have to find anything I just said what I wanted and it happened that's so why did pepper need to be there for you for it to record your your input because then I don't have to touch anything it's just you can just talk to it though if it's Alexa if you're just talking to yeah I mean that's essentially what it's doing the screen is just showing me visual confirmation that's all mmm yeah I tell Alexa to add blueberries to the shopping list and then I'm like wait did I already add blueberries and I would like to see the shopping list and Alexa sadly is not smart enough to tell me dude you already added blue yeah that's the thing I wish you would do I really wish Alexa would say you already have that yeah dummy TX Jeb Texas Jeb in the in the chat room says what if they just gave the IVR voice a high-pitched cute voice now that IVR is the the intelligence that you're speaking to in a phone tree by the way I couldn't remember what what the acronym was there but the no I think I would make it worse if it was like press one if you would like to check your account balance press to if you want I'd be like what if we gave you free HBO oh gosh gosh yeah flashbacks right yeah oh yeah major no seriously I do think this is fascinating though I think it and what's great about it is it's real this isn't like our 3d movie earlier a prototype that's really fascinating but being developed these things are rolling out and they're rolling out now outside of Japan and and soft banks on the leading edge here that doesn't mean they're necessarily going to win though I think we're going to see a lot more of these heading out my final question is are they really useful like if I go into a shop and I see this am I really going to want to interact with it or is it more of a gimmick yeah I don't know but I do have to say that if it is if they are going to cutify even even beyond what how cute pepper already is think they probably go Pikachu and not not Panda because pandas are from China Tom but Pikachu Pikachu is pretty popular in Japan because you are not from Japan they are imaginary you with your reason yeah I maybe that's Nintendo's next thing right maybe that'll do it problem solves to be solved Japan's problems finally thank you on Nintendo's problems I can't it's on us oh what am I doing all right all right we do our pick of the day I'm going to make our pick of the day text message by Nate Langston we we we are just friends Nate and I and Veronica's friends with Nate as well and I think he does a great job on the show text message which you can find at techpodcast.co.uk you should check it out he very nicely lets me create a little promo that we tell the text message crowd what we've been talking about on DTNS and so in response here's a little of what you'll be able to find on text message if you listen to this week's episode what you got for us Nate thanks Tom and hey remember last week Japanese company softbank bought ARM well ARM is the UK's biggest tech company and our brand new post Brexit government just came out and said it was great Britain was selling it off to the Japanese it's been highly controversial over here so we went into some local detail about the whole thing plus what you get if you cross Japanese technology robotic limbs and grown men dressed to schoolgirls let's just say you'll find out in a special feature as part of this week's show that's all available right now on text message at textmessage.com or simply techpodcast.uk back to you Tom thank you Nate he described someone who has a television as a hat in that episode oh you might want to check that out okay thank you folks let's get to our messages of the day again those of you who get tired of a topic after a few days this will probably be the last day we talk about DRM and tractors but we had a couple of really good points here Colt E I'm sorry he says the E is silent and then I just screwed it up Colt in extreme summer temperature South Dakota said I feel that some of your e-mailers sold the American farmers a little short the generation that wants to fix these machines is already here I'm a farmer with degrees in physics mathematics and a master's in computer science I spend my days out in the field and nights coding I have before and currently am troubleshooting issues with my John dear equipment and an auto track machine a right to repair a lot would make my endeavors much easier and less time-consuming in repairing electronic issues with sensors or switches I would rather find the 30 cent switch that is bad then replace the $2,000 assembly John dear I feel has the best margins is in the business farmers always joke we pay more just for the green paint you said it right nothing runs up your bill like a deer that's amazing and then could you read the next one from Dan sure Dan writes in the late 60s a friend of the family started making head changers quote to let farmers mix the brand of combine and cutting heads hopefully I'm saying that right so they could use the best combination for their fields or share with neighbors with DRM or whatever they're calling it in the mix it will essentially lock someone into one brand of farm equipment and at some point it's entirely possible for them to license the use of these interchangeable pieces only to one farmer or a limited set of machinery sorry Ken I'd love to let you borrow my head for your combine but I'm already registered it with my combine and my sons but if you're willing to pay the $500 seasonal license extension I'll add you ha ha oh and Dan wrote to his Nebraska State rep to yeah and she said it was no longer in consideration but if it comes back up I will definitely take your opinion into account which felt like a formal but hey at least he he got heard thank you Veronica Belmont for joining us today sword and laser of course co-hosted by Veronica and myself have you figured the book pick out for the next month yet I think it's gonna be the last wish which is the first in it's a short story it's a mmm it's it's the Witcher novel the first Witcher novel it's the first but it's a collection of short stories that are tied together with a narrative thread yeah but you get to yeah and I'm really excited about it so that that should be fun the last wish okay cool check it out sword and laser dot com anything else to tell folks about yet I got a job I haven't announced it yet but that's why I'm gonna be out on Monday next Monday because it'll be my first day but hopefully the week after I'll be able to tell you guys more about it I'm very excited very excited for you too thank you thank you everyone who supports the show you can find out how to support us at daily tech news show dot com slash support if you'd like to get updates ahead of time when we're thinking about changing things or or adding special features or if you want to join our analysts slack with a bunch of other people in the daily tech news show audience you can find information about that at patreon dot com slash DTNS don't forget about our tech views post from Mike range that happens every Saturday it was a 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Yeah. Oh man. Bots bots bots bots bots bots bots bots bots bots bots see what the titles are. What do we got Roger. Let's see pepper bots. Oh nobody's really voted yet. Get in there and vote. Roger can't can't speak. That always happens again. I know. Don't speak. Yeah. Oh there you are. Can you hear that. Yeah. We definitely heard that. That's from the homeless garbage. All right. He means someone left a bunch of garbage in front of us. Yes I should jump to conclusions although my jumping is usually pretty spot on. All right. At the top is what about Bob. Oh Bob Bob. Pepper bots like Pokemon use will go. I think so. I think that's the joke. If we have to say I think that's the joke we probably shouldn't pick it. It's a good good soft bank peppering Taiwan with bots. See for numbers soft bank Honda wait that doesn't even make soft. Oh soft banking on Honda. Peppering the world with robots. Not like they're banking on Honda though. How's that peppering the world with robots. I kind of like that. Which one did you kind of like peppering the world with robots. Yeah that's cute. It's a little kick without being too overwhelming like pepper. Yeah. Not too hot. Just a little kick. Yeah I voted for it. You voted for it. Oh I'm a little loath to do any of the yahoo ones because we've been doing yahoo. We did yahoo in the title. Last week. Cute IVR survival of the cutest bots. Actually a cute robot would not lower my my anger level. What about getting some votes though. Who is Bob. Where did Bob come. What's it. What joke was that. Is it the Microsoft. Oh OK. No that's not whatever Apple guy. Bob Mansfield. Maybe that's like but that's not a major story. I could run the vehicle department. That's funny. Oh I thought it was Michael. We never mentioned Microsoft Bob though. I know that's why you wrote what about Bob. In regards to what. It doesn't make any sense. Well I think we're going with peppering the world with robots. So I think the old robots. Done. I don't have any good Pokemon. I don't know how to get Pokemon. You have to walk. I don't know how to get the good ones. You have to walk around a lot. You just have to. Have you seen that little case attached to the guy made so when you put your finger sliding it on track. Yeah it keeps it keeps it going straight. Texas Jeb thinks he has uncracked the code to getting me to mention him on the show somehow which apparently is true because I just did it again. Yeah he has. See more evidence. The code has been cracked. All the way from the Vatican. All the way from the Vatican. From the Jubilee door. Did you get a t-shirt or anything? Like a Pope doll or something. I did buy a present for my friend but I can't I don't want to say what it is because I'll give it away. I ordered these old pope action figures. I bought USB drives for everyone. Last time I went to the Vatican. The only time I went to the Vatican. Yeah wait what you say they have USB drives. Yeah I bought Vatican USB drives. That's funny. They will forgive your data's sins. I would wonder if I brought a jug of water that he blests and then I mean I know you it's hard to you can't carry liquids on board with you but you can pack it in his baggage right? Yeah. What is it water? You're just packing water. You don't need water anywhere. I feel like there was you could purchase small amounts of holy water not not a big jug. Well no that's a whole thing. You just bring like a water cooler sized jug of water and he blessed that and therefore you have enough for you to get back because it's that easy to get the pope to bless stuff for you. It's just that easy. Maybe for you Roger not for me. They wouldn't let me anywhere near him. Unbelievable. Did they point it to you and say heretic? Is that what they're saying? I thought they were telling me I was in the wrong line. I want to see a Pirates of the Caribbean right at the Vatican. But on a gondola. I'm hungry. Pirates of the Egiatic. Did you not eat before the show? I did. I have a salad. Oh, you gotta put some protein in there. I don't have any protein. Beans are a good source of protein. Salmon. Oh, right. You don't like smoked salmon. Forgot. Well, you baby. What about pescatarian? Who doesn't like? I'm a vegetarian who occasionally shrimp at crustaceans. That's right. Do you just not like any kind of fish or do you just not like certain kinds of fish? I don't like fish. Sometimes I'll eat like if it's like fried enough, I'll eat it. So do let me do like fish fingers, that kind of thing. Yeah, like fried fish fingers. Yeah. Fried, fried, fried, may not have fish in it. It's just be clear. That's fine. Well, self safe, self way. Safely sells these really nice breaded tilapia fillets. Yeah, breaded. Yeah, Trader Joe's has some good ones too. Yeah. Really good. I mean, they take 30 minutes to cook, but 20 minutes to cook. I always want to like fish and then I eat it and I'm just like, I don't want this. I really, you know why? I'm forcing myself to eat this right now. I don't like it. You are descended from an ancient line of people that have an aversion to sea life. It's probably because you were shipped, your, your crane ancestors were shipwrecked by a giant squid. No, I'm actually doing it all wrong because my ancestors are like, don't eat crustaceans. What are you doing? You can't eat bottom feeders. And I'm like, oh, that's not the majority of them. Not the majority. I don't know, guys. I don't like fish. I'm sorry. What do you want for me? Trampark fish, which makes them great. Do you like lobster? Yeah. Crab? Yeah. Cray fish, go like find the dolphin. Well, there is a dolphin fish. I like tuna. Well, that's good. You make yourself a tuna fish sandwich. I do like tuna. I do have tuna in the house. I do like tuna. God, I'm, but it's so bad for the world. I don't, I don't. It's bad for the world. No, just get the one. Because tuna is over fished. Certain tuna is over fished. The yellow fin are the ones that they actually raise in pens. I'll eat the, the fish. There's that app that tells you which fish are okay. There's one from the Monterey Bay Aquarium is pretty good. Yeah, I had that card. They had a card that I got at the Monterey Bay Aquarium. You got a match to silhouette of the fish. But that's the thing when they, they fillet it for you. You actually don't know what you're getting because you don't have the fish. I know, they lie sometimes. They lie a lot. They lie a lot. They lie. Like I would, I think I'd be able to tell tuna for most other fish because tuna is so specific tasting. It's a meaty fish. But like other fish, like I don't, I don't know. Like we're roughy from cod. Your sea bass from your, you know, whatever's. It's not even a bass. From your, your skate. From your, yeah, from your garbage fish. Mackerel, I don't know. I don't know the difference. Mackerel isn't garbage fish. Whatever. There's a big market for it. But I mean, I'm not sure, man. Sabashiyaki is really good. It's oily though. I don't like it. It's strong tasting. Yeah, it's oily. I like it though. But I like fish. So there you go. I kind of like, I kind of like, um, yeah, I like really like flaky, like super flaky white fish, like, like a tilapia. So tilapia, halibut, cod is either or. Very mild, super mild cod. I have a hard time sometimes with cod. So then if cod is like too much, then halibut, what else is in that range is, uh, not skate. Halibut I can do. A sandap is pretty good for that. Sandap I actually kind of like. You're reminding me of fishes that I haven't hated in the past. It's because they're all bottom feeders. You like bottom feeders is what that's the thing. Veronica's next book. Fishes I haven't hated. If the whiter that, the whiter the fish, the more likely it's going to be a bottom feeder. I do like, I like Texas Jeb says black and cat fish. I do like black and cat fish, especially. You like a lot of fish. It's all, because it's all kind of the same though. Catfish is another fish that doesn't get served in restaurants as often or at least higher end restaurants. I don't like catfish. She like filet of fish. Filet of fish is just as a Malcolm of leftover fish parts. No, I've never, I've never been into, which is funny, because I'm actually a very adventurous eater, but with fish, I've never been like, I like the blandest and most boring, not fish tasting fish that I can find. I've never found a shark to be very white. It's a pretty healthy food. It's not a fish. Oh, I'm sorry. It's probably really hungry. Every time I go to an aquarium, I get hungry. And I only like shrimp if they don't have their heads on and all their little poop veins have been cleaned away. It's not their pooping. That's just their. That is their pooping vein. That's their poop shoot. That's what it is. Anyway, I did eat fish in China. G peg. I ate a lot. I ate a lot of things in China that were. I'm sure you did. Do you eat chicken? I had chicken. I had chicken balls, chicken testicles. Yes, those are favorite. I had frog ovaries. I had all sorts of all sorts of things. Yeah, it's a cuisine based on. It's a Chinese cuisine is based on necessity. Just remember that. No, it's true. You make it delicious. Yeah. You make what you have delicious. You make it edible. Yeah. There's a lot of that stuff. Goulash and all those crazy things come from. Pickling. That's a good sign of people. Super spicy. Yeah, a lot of like, you know, make things tasty by just adding an unbelievable amount of. Well, I had donkey feet. Isn't that just hooves? Yeah, I had like the chicken feet. There's not a lot there, but you know. But the hooves are just like a giant fingernail. Like you might as well just eat your own fingernails. Oh, I have a list. Oh, I have a list. Hold on. Let me pull up my list. It's what's interesting. You brought up spicy because wasabi was actually added to Japanese food as a way to clean the food. Like it was there as an antiseptic to kill any bacteria over the ages. People just got used to the flavor and they liked it. Okay, so you're ready for my full list? Yeah. All right. It was camel foot. Sorry. Camel foot. So that makes sense. Yeah. Pig's ear. Oh, my mom used to get that all the time. C-Cucumber, which was kind of vaguely horrifying. Yeah. Jen tried to eat that with chopsticks because she had no success. And they said, don't eat that with chopsticks. I had a lot of different kinds of intestine. Also pretty common. If you eat sausage, you've eaten an intestine. Yeah. Duck web. The webbing from a duck's foot. Okay. I typically like the feet. Kind of like a chicken feet. Oh, here it is. It was just donkey meat. It wasn't a special part of the donkey. It was just donkey. Was it gamey at all? Was it what? Gamey? Was it gamey? I don't remember it being gamey. It smelled like it kind of tastes like its own turd. That's how you do that. That's how I generally say if it's gamey or not. The chicken testicle we already covered, or I guess rooster testicle. Frog, which is normal in many places. Stinky tofu, which was like, oh my god. Oh, that's huge in Taiwan. That's like an art form. Just the most unbelievably bad smell. It doesn't taste so bad. Just the, you know, it's called stinky tofu. I mean, that is what it's called. It's a thing. Very common, though. Very, you know, a delicacy. It is. People spend a lot of money on it. But the worst by far, for me as a Westerner, was the mung bean juice. What are you talking about? How's that bad? The smell. Are you kidding? I used to have to chuck that down in kindergarten class. I bet. Yeah, it was. I hated it. I did. I didn't have bird nest soup as well. Captain Kepper. You said it was healthy for me. Yeah. Yeah, the mung bean juice is supposed to fix a lot of things, the alia, but it was difficult for me. I'm a super, super smeller. Did it fix anything? I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, this is, you know, this is a Western perspective. You know, I place no judgments on these things. Many of it to me was very delicious. But yeah, it was, those were unusual to me coming from, coming from, I was on a food tour. That's what I was there to do, was try new things. And I'm glad I did. But now I don't need anything. Yeah. I eat pizza. We need a bone. I try, I'm trying to avoid cheese now. It's not food. Why? Horrible, horrible fate. But I'm not lactose intolerant where I eat cheese and I get sick, but I found out that I have a gene associated with mild lactose intolerance. So I'm like, huh, that's weird. So I just didn't eat cheese for a couple days and I felt better. And I was like, oh, so it's low level. I barely even know. When you, when you say like you feel better, were you just like run down or did you just feel? I don't want to go into too many details, but certain things worked better. And also, yeah, and a little bit less run down and stuff too. I was super allergic to milk. And when I was a kid, so I was on soy milk. My sister doesn't drink milk. And neither is my dad. We don't drink milk, but cheese. We eat cheese. Well, you know, it's funny. It's like any, anything, any milk product above, above non or low fat milk will make me kind of like, bloated. I only drink whole milk. Yeah, I can't. I never get bloated from eating cheese or milk or anything. Whole milk will make me bloated. I cannot drink it. That's much healthier for you. And there's a fantastic ice cream place near our house that does vegan ice cream made out of coconut milk. And it's delicious. I like coconut sorbet. That's kind of this is I got to the Thai restaurant. They make this wonderful coconut rice like it's just rice, but it's sweet with coconut milk. And it's amazing. Like you think it's this dessert? No, it's your, it's your rice. It's like, oh yeah. I had coconut rice from Burma Superstar. Another Jay Martin says the older the cheese, the less lactose. And I like older cheeses. I wonder if that's and butter, but it doesn't have any lactose. Put butter on everything. Thank you. Goodbye. I do that. You should get a, you should get a, have you tried Indian pizza? I have, but I wonder if we mean the same thing. Like it's a pizza, but like Tiki Masala pizza. Chicken Tiki. Okay. Yeah. That's from an Indian restaurant. They also serve Indian food, which I also get so fatty. Oh, she is so much cheese. She is, I can't imagine a life without cheese. I'm not going to cut it out entirely. It's probably due to an action that exists at all. I know. Like most things. Like humans. I wasn't an accident, Tom. I carried to you. No, the entire human race was though. Oops. I created what? Oh, well, uh, let's give them a purpose. What you do? No, I'm saying humanity. Oh, oh. You did what in, in a day? All right. Thank you all for watching. We are done for today. We will be back tomorrow with Patrick Beja. After Patrick, I'm on Philius Club tomorrow. I'm on Philius Club tomorrow morning. Cool. We will solve all of politics. Sweet. All of it. Yeah. And then we'll come and do GTNS in the afternoon. Perfect. We will solve, solve all of tech news. Exactly.