 you're a gaslighter. I've been speaking to you since 2017 and all these other activists have been bullshitting them and now we've got the proof. They are screaming suffering to death in that chamber and you've been out here gaslighting everyone defending the most evil thing on earth nearly. How can you prove that that's from air? Because I put the cameras in myself. How did you do that? Have you seen this? Did you watch it? What is it? Yeah well we've talked about that. I don't know why that's not here. Do you reckon that's here? It's supposed to be here. Because you've had a lot to say about this you said they don't scream and I remember I've talked to you about four times here. Yep you've just been around the back haven't you? I know you can hear on what you're screaming. The building you went to and that's hilarious that's not the cause. So you can't hear them screaming from the gas chamber over here? What a horrific way to die to drown in gas like in a dark. It's not even in your chambers. Yeah no you're a gaslighter. You're a gaslighter. You don't need to defend them man. Like you don't get paid to defend them. You're only security bro. Unless you really love the pilgrims. No I don't. This is their chamber. Do you know how I know? Well because I put the cameras in myself. Do you think I'll take someone else to do it? How did you do that? Oh it's not your chamber though eh? I thought it'd be quite important just to maybe we just do a minute of silence so we can just the right there. The gas chamber is just over there so a lot of the screams that you're hearing did come out of that chamber you've seen the footage. They will try to say it's not but they are horrifying loud screams so I thought we could just reflect. There's been a lot of history here at this particular slaughterhouse. The reason it's been so notorious is partly because of the screams that you can hear from this public walkway and for years and years particularly the guards here which this isn't they're not fully responsible and accountable for this but particularly the guards here have been saying that those screams are not what you think they are. They're just the pigs in the leverage fighting. One of the guards said that the pigs are having sex or something like that so really really disgusting gas lighting and I was absolutely convinced that what was going on there was exactly the same as what was going on in every other gas chamber on earth and now the evidence has come out from inside this chamber and this is just a small snippet of what's in there. You told me that they fall asleep and that those screams are them them having sex with each other you've told me all these things like and all the activists here that you're crying for the screams you got nothing to cry about. This has been a long time in the making and took a lot of risks to get this and I thought it was really important because they can always say it only happens in other countries or that's not here in the UK. Our gas concentrations are much better whatever they try to say they'll try to say anything and now they're just denying it's their slaughterhouse but they won't be able to deny that for much longer. Have you been inside of there? I've worked in them I was on a building maintenance here when they made that chamber and you're saying that's not it? That's not it. That doesn't not go like that. What does yours look like then? I want a guardian's head and stuff. You can get it on YouTube it's in the Guardian. How can you prove that? I've done my due diligence. You know the Guardian reported on it. Do you think the Guardian report on something without having evidence? They've got lawyers and everything you know that they could get sued yeah they've got enough proof I've delivered them the proof I haven't just got this. No but what have you delivered them? And that's under your business but you'll find out soon but I'm just saying why defend them? They are screaming suffering to death in that that chamber and you've been out here gaslighting everyone defending the most evil thing on earth nearly. What you're looking at is probably one of the most horrific slaughter methods on earth. I think what the industry are going to push for is for this to kind of be phased out and basically use a different kind of gas so the animals will still be having their right to life violated. Even the industry are calling for a phase out they know it's bad but you come out here doing more than you need to by telling everyone that this isn't bad. Oh no no they're not screaming in there this gas change is good actually. If the levels are okay. That's enough gas. You know if it isn't the right level of gas. If they get in there that's where they're going to be frail. I think the levels might be off in Australia that's why they're screaming here the levels are I know what the level is here 90% minimum. I've had that gas in my eyes. It's horrible gas. I'm up that gas in my lungs. And how does it feel? So it feels not good for you but it's the pigs there they're not screaming in there. I would just say just back off defending that horrible because you don't need to you're here for security you're not here to defend animal abuse. We are fighting for the rights of these animals and once the animals have rights you can't treat them like this or any other imaginable way for profit so they'll be protected. That will be the focus of the campaigning you can always use these kind of these horrible scenes to show what the result is of animals not having these kind of rights. How do you defend this? Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. What is your opinion of this? You said it hurt you it doesn't hurt the pigs. If somebody said to me we'd rather the pigs not bump here. Yeah I'd say yeah. Okay that's a good start but why are you telling us they're not screaming in there? Why are you telling them it doesn't harm the pigs? Screams. That's a miscematics issue. Why are you being silly? They're terrified making a screeching sound for their lives in there. Okay okay and you're telling me that you can't hear it from that wall. That everyone's crying because they're all soft and I don't know they're just weird and the vegans are weird. They've got some pigs. I'd like to know where you got in when it was operational for a stunt. Hey bro that's all beside the point. The point main point is why are you saying that this isn't bad for them? These pigs here are going into this chamber here. The security are still maintaining this isn't their chamber but they've got a surprise coming anyway. I don't know why the security try to defend or say this isn't their chamber. It's an easy way out but that chamber footage does not exist anywhere else in the world. I just so happen to have it in my hands but uh we'll see. If it's not their chamber they consume me for defamation that'll be fun. Anyone with half a conscience can look at this and say it's disgusting and if you don't you don't have a conscience or you're trying to defend the indefensible. Trying to defend the corporate JBS pilgrim pride owned by JBS massive conglomerate multinational bunch of scumbags and you're trying to defend them trying to defend that. So I think the stock of their lives coming. Don't worry. The reason I'm bringing up Dan is because uh me and Dan did this together. I just uh want to thank Dan because uh it's pretty gutsy what Dan did with me um we'll talk a little bit more about how that happened and how that come about but we're going to keep that quiet if you could respect that privacy for now and I know you'll want to know how the f*** we f*** did that and I'm sure they're f***ing just like they they don't understand either because they really want to know too and that's why I don't want them to know just yet. They'll find out when the documentary's out. They won't be able to hide behind this. The thing about the UK is that the UK claims to be the best welfare in the world the pinnacle of animal welfare well it's not it's not at all and this footage here is is like you can see the suffering you can see the fear these animals know what's going on they smell the blood they smell the fear the the the vocalize to each other and panic ensues and this is what we can hear now so this footage is vital it's vital to get out there and we all need to share this footage. Everyone in Manchester has got to know this what's going on in here. Anyone who thinks the security guard is getting paid by the pork industry the way they defend it like I mean like underhanded you should just back off it mate because soon it's going to be you're going to be a laughing stock if you keep saying that or you just look like a really bad person I don't think you're a bad person but what you're doing now is defending the indefensible and you don't need to it's not part of your pay grade they don't pay you to defend them they don't go hey mate here you're unless they are are they paying you to be a mouthpiece? I don't work in that box anymore yeah but you've been here for 20 years you've been taught I've been I've been speaking to you since 2017 yeah and all these other activists you've been bullshitting them and now we've got the proof but that's on your conscience she's never bullshitting us he doesn't need to he's probably curious whether this is actually it stick your head in the top have a look the other guy doesn't even work her anymore I don't know why he's so defensive just say it's f***ed up they're just going to deny deny deny deny when the docs released they'll probably still try to deny it what matters is what the people think actually so of course the company's going to deny and I don't know why the security guards are the company should they shouldn't defend the company they should just do security that's it but even the company representatives said we don't know for that to ours so we can't comment but well you will know mate after all these years I've been coming here and like since 2017 he's gaslit us gaslit like he said the screams aren't coming from the chamber yeah and he hasn't worked here for two years but he's here he's they've called him back here today just to do a little bit more gaslighting hey sweetie in literally a couple of hours these animals will be in what you just see sick disgusting shame on this company man eh shame on it you've got to do your job but I understand I'm not laughing against workers or anything because you've got to make money it's fine but shame on this company it's disgusting mate don't look back in history at this man and they're going to say what the f*** are we doing disgusting off they go to this gas chamber here in this footage what you see in the back of our truck there is what happens when animals don't have rights they can be treated like produce products um they have no like the only they only had basic welfare and that's it which doesn't protect their their interests this is what happens with the welfare movement gas chambers this is what it's done but if animals have rights they wouldn't they wouldn't be able to allow to violate the rights and put them in a gas chamber free range or not this company does a lot of free range and that's what they got to look forward to sick I thought I'd give some context to Manchester pigs they just for people who don't know uh here they have uh each truck has 300 pigs per truck that equates to 3 000 pigs per day and in a year that equates to half a million pigs so to put pilgrims into context I did have some involvement with it because they do own about a third of the pigs in Britain um they're associated with the the second largest food company in the world this is probably the best you can get um huge funding and high-end produce going into places like waitre is in a country as pointed out we hear it all the time with some of the best welfare in the world so isn't that just such a depressing thought that this is the best that we can do for pigs I asked when I was in the industry why there weren't cameras within the chambers and I was categorically told that it would be too awful um and it could be used against us and something would then have to be done to change it you say you've got all the flutters I mean actually what avail will that come I mean so I've managed it to big yeah I don't have to prove it to you anyway Steve it's about pilgrims anyway you know what I mean I'm asking you to stop gas lighting activists because you don't know what you're talking about that's what I'm asking you to do because it's because it's uh you don't have to do that and you've been doing it for years so let's say bulls*** do you know what gas light means it just means you're trying to deny reality to people's face yeah and then now we've got footage and you're still trying really retire from like gas lighting that's what I'm saying it's obviously f***ed up and even the industry themselves know it's f***ed up there's a huge push all around the world they know it's f***ed up but you are saying here it's not f***ed up you're doing the devil's work you know about if you say you've got all this flutters and this and the other yeah and what what avail is it going to come to what's it going to ever do that's a different question as to uh the the question I'm asking is it's f***ed up why are you saying it's not I just don't get why they're still fighting why Steve just won't just lay down and let it rest he should just say it's but it's f***ed up man I'll just work here you know I mean just so it's f***ed up I just work here exactly it's not about Steve anyway it's about the corporation anyway but still I just it's something about him because we've been going so long and ever since I ever spoke to him man first conversation the activists come around from around the side crying oh the I don't know why they're crying it's just the pigs in the laryx you know it's always tried to belittle people and you know I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge and recognize the sacrifices that activists make every day everybody here you know putting yourselves in very challenging very uncomfortable situations and often incredibly dangerous like I'm so impressed by you guys getting in there the security loops I had to jump through to work in there as somebody who was actually meant to be there and the fact that you got in is incredibly impressive and the footage is is so excellent and speaks for itself so yeah thank you if you look at any social justice movements it's only three percent of the population that create the change and it's only the activists sorry that's quite off putting and it's only the activists that create the change and Martin Luther King said it's one of his famous quotes that there's no inevitability that good will prevail and it's down to you guys so I just want to say a huge thank you to all the activists that come here whether you come regular whether you come occasionally for me I'm so proud to be with you guys and you guys make this a better world so thank you thank you to you all think of how much that footage affects you and then take it out and have it affect others as well but focus on the rights of the pigs all right not on let's make it better for them which they've been trying to do for since the welfare movement began and nothing's changed they need fundamental rights the same that you would ask for basic rights for human beings they should get no less I'll give you all premiere invites to the documentary all right and then uh Steve will be eating his words Steve if you're wrong all right you have to go vegan forever and I want you standing out the front with a sign saying band gas chambers all right and you can come to the premiere Steve all right come to the premiere