 I see all the breakfasts and plus TV, you just take a look at, you know, the security concerns and all that's been happening shortly after the elections, the fact that it's been renewed attack in some parts of the country. Now, gunmen suspected to be Boko Haram terrorists attacked the Dhuban community in Hongo, local government area of Adama, were state-killing three unsettling the blaze houses and shops cutting away food items as well. Just yesterday, also, no fewer than 10 persons were murdered in Kiwasi village in Usar, council of Tarabah state, where suspected headsmen were responsible for that attack. Now confirming the development of council, Ketika community chairman, Moussa said the attackers invaded the community in the early hours of yesterday. The onslaught came barely two days after scores were slaughtered in Garni back village in Kolo, council by unknown gunmen. This has been shocked that has been expressed. I mean, it feels like, you know, that's said every other time. Governors or the president would be very shocked by, you know, the renewed attack. Governor Darius Ishiaku has expressed his shock as well. According to the chairman, his directed security apparatus to go after, you know, the killers. Now for the want of time, so it's important to note that apart from Tarabah state, Adama, Kogi is also another hotspot amongst others that we can mention. But this morning, we have our guests this morning, Edgar joining us to make sense of all of this Augustin Edgar, who is a security expert. Augustin, thank you so much for being part of the show. Good morning, it's my pleasure. Yes, I'd like to ask you, what are your thoughts on the recently renewed attacks? Now, prior to the election, we had also noticed that there seem to have been a break, you know, from all of the attacks from Bandit, Hetzman, Boko Haram, whatever attacks that you have for them, it totally, you know, went down. And some people had alluded that it probably would have been, you know, the issue of the redesigned and the cash cashless policy, the narrow note and what have you could have been responsible for the fact that we didn't have these attacks. Now, shortly after the election, we seem to be having these attacks. And a lot of Nigerians have lost their lives in the course of this. So I ask you again, what do you make of this renewed attacks in our polity? All right, I think they don't want to be feel, they don't want to feel defeated because from the global... Well, we seem to have a disconnect. Probably like to show your thoughts about the, you know, the attacks that have actually emerged, you know, shortly after the elections in different parts of the country. And, you know, also looking at the fact that there's a cofew that's also being imposed, however, you know, in some local government over the recent killings that we're having in Nigeria, not necessarily the entire country, but in some parts. But you can also take out the fact that crime and criminality is also on the high. And not to say that we want to wake up to a country where, of course, that would be the wish of everyone where crime and criminality does not exist. But then we don't, I mean, perfection is an illusion. But then again, we're asking what could have been responsible for the period of quiet and calm that we had experienced prior to the elections? Edgar, can you hear me? I think there are two things that were responsible for for the inactivity of those groups. First, before the elections, there were a lot of redeployment of security forces in all areas, in all the communities, on our streets, they were there. There was an increased surveillance on their own parts that they couldn't. Also, there was this cash crunch during that period. People didn't have enough cash to move around. And also there was this tough and surge going on. And so at that time, I think they were very low key. But after the elections, we see that some of those things have been lifted off. The police have returned to their various duty posts and duty stations. We still have a few inflow of cash in the system so they can, they have money to really go around. Totally. In the global index of most terrorized nations, we saw that Nigeria has moved from the fourth position to the eighth position or six to eight from the analysis that we got globally. And they don't want to feel defeated, as much as we also know that some of their hierarchy have been dismantled to some extent. Now they are preaching in some sudden factions, little factions that have been broken or spread across throughout the region, as you can see. They don't have a centralized formation like before. And some of them, of course, they know that they need funding to carry out their operations and even to survive. And we see that funding too have been made difficult by the government. So like I said in the last program, they go through, they try to make their own funding by inflicting some of these violence in the community, creating fear and what they can take. First, for their own survival, they were just after in one of the houses, they broke in the two-foot. You can see that it is a matter of survival now. They are there to survive mostly before they can have a fit, even though that is a situation of survival on their factions. And so they are preaching indiscriminately. That is responsible. That doesn't mean that the Nigerian military force is not making progress. They have made frantic efforts. They have made a very good progress so far. And we think that within those regions, where they have these violence like every state government should reinforce their security and to protect lives and property. Well, so would you agree with the redesign, I mean the policy of the central bank of Nigeria where you have the narrow redesign and the fact that some of the reasons for this policy had been believed. For instance, one of the reasons for that policy is to reduce the unbanked population. I can't categorically say that the unbanked population has reduced or you already have a lot of people who are going to be unbanked following the aftermath of that particular policy. But then again, tackling security was one of it. So do you think that that particular policy has had a serious effect on the attacks of this criminal element? And then maybe what we're seeing now is more like the aftermath of it? Yes, of course. In a way to tackle insecurity is a 360-degree approach. And of course, we know that funding plays a very key role in funding all these terror attacks. And of course, in most terror attacks on most criminal war, the banks play a lot of role to enable their operations. And so it was a very, very wonderful one from the government initiating some of this cashless policy from the central bank to try to make things a little bit difficult for the society. And of course, for those who depend on some of these infrastructures to commit crime, I would not say that it has helped to some extent. But then the central bank have to find a way that criminal elements will not stop. There's no way criminality can be stopped. We can only be reduced. So us returning back, the nation returning back to the normal operations, like having the cash flow, is definitely not going to increase insecurity. But as they have their policies well instituted, like the minimum balance, the minimum withdrawal per day, of course those checks really help us to keep in check of insecurity in our nation. But I'd like to ask you then, what then is responsible for these renewed attacks? I mean, it wasn't what we saw shortly after that policy was introduced. And if you have alluded to the fact that, you know, the economy was crippled, then exactly what is responsible for these renewed attacks? Well, I was hoping that Edgar would actually respond to, you know, what are the consents? I mean, what could be responsible for the renewed attack? I mean, prior to the reintroduction of the CBN policy where Nigerians or Nigeria's economy was suspected to go cashless. Edgar, if you can hear me now, my question to you is, what then is responsible for the renewed attacks by these bandits? Some people say Headsmen, others would say Boko Haram, but however you look at this, you know, persons who have become a threat to national security. So exactly what then is responsible for the renewed attacks when we look at months back, this was not the case. First of all is a survivor. These groups want to survive. That is first thing, survivor. Secondly, they are trying to get funding for their operations. And so, Edgar, hear me? Well, so maybe we'll probably have to have this conversation tomorrow. Okay. We need to hear your thoughts and we'll probably just have orders on board. We would have to move this conversation to tomorrow. It's unfortunate that the network has been very unfriendly with us this morning on the show. We apologize sincerely on behalf of the service providers and what have you. And we hope that we have this conversation tomorrow. Edgar, thank you so much for being part of the show this morning. He's a security expert and analyst who joined us this morning from Ibado. We take a break when we return. We'll be looking at another conversation. Hopefully the network is favorable, cash withdrawal, limit, especially the fact that governors have been urged to embrace digital transfers. What exactly could be the problem with that? Stay with us.