 I am going to go ahead and call the sure I will April 9th, 2024 regular governing board meeting to order. We do not have a quorum at this time. Hopefully we will get another delegate in before we need to take any action. I'm calling for for additions or changes to the agenda. There are a couple of there's one addition that I want to make. It's about the main meeting. I just want to talk about the officer's election for the main meeting. And the other thing I want to do is I want to move the finance update which I see I left off the agenda. But you have treasurer's report at 6.15. Yes, I have treasurer's report. So we're going to do that immediately next so that Bonnie doesn't have to stay through all the other stuff. So does anybody have any objections to these changes to the agenda? Okay, I'm not seeing any objections. So the first thing I'm going to say is just next month is our required election of officers. That's the treasurer, the clerk, the vice chair, and the chair positions. So we need to think about if you're willing to stand for any of those positions or if you're willing to continue wherever we are. But we won't do anything with that until May. I just wanted to remind people that it is next month at the regular board meeting. And so the next thing will be the treasurer's report. And why don't you go ahead with that, Geneal and David and Bonnie. Okay. So I just kind of want to give you an overview of where we are and what we're doing and what we're doing to plan ahead. Currently, as of today, we have about $3.8 million in cash. We have about $6.6 million of prepaid costs, which basically is our inventory and our prepaid make ready. We have approximately $9 million in already construction and progress and sites. So that gives us an asset base of about $19.7 million. We are paying our bills on a weekly basis. So our liabilities are basically zero, which is a great place to be. Year to date, we're looking at about approximately $58,000 in customer broadband revenue. And the other exciting piece is since we've moved our cash accounts around, we have about $44,000 in investment earnings. So those are all really positive. Out of the 863,000 that we've received from the towns, we have spent currently about 201,000 of that allocated to the towns that we're working in. So we're in a good place and we have taken the steps to project our cash flow through the end of 24 to see what our sustainability is going to be. And in looking at completing RS01, 02, and CL03, we still are projected to be in a positive cash flow at the end of 24. And should we put a hold or stay on construction while we're waiting for a bead, we have enough funds to carry the operations administration of CB fiber. So I feel with everything going on and the possibilities that are around the corner in 25 that we're in a good spot cash flow wise and on track. You're on mute, Siobhan. Still on mute. Siobhan, you've been on mute all this time. That's funny. I'm sitting there telling David to go ahead and he's on mute. I, go ahead, David. So I was curious, did we get the $863,000 from VCBB this week? We did get the, we got an agreement that was signed, right, Siobhan? You signed an agreement on Friday night. Yep, I signed it. I got noticed that it was finished, I think today. It was documents completed today, I think. And what is that document? Where did the $863,000 is that associated with that document? Yes, that's the amendment document for the grant amendment that releases those funds. The matching funds. This is a town match. The town match. Okay. Thank you. And since I'm still talking, the $431,000 or maybe that's not the exact number, you know what I mean, Janiel. Where do we stand on that money that the VCBB said they were holding in reserve for us? Yep. Bonnie drafted for us a request, an invoice, and we'll be sending that to Rob Fish. We're going to keep it simple. We're just going to ask for the disbursement with an outline of the funds that have been disbursed and received and follow the method that we've done in the past. Do we know if they're amenable to that or are they thinking differently? We don't know. They had, Alexi is new, right? So all of these conversations that happened were before Alexi came on. And so he had originally asked for some sort of backup, but we think that following the procedure that we followed in the past with a simple accounting and a request will suffice here because that is what suffice in the past. So we intend to follow the past procedure and not only send it to Alexi, but make it to Rob because he has a history here and then copy Christine and Alexi on that request. And I think Lucy Rogers, who's the person I negotiated with to do all this stuff, she's around somewhere, right? She's employed by the state, but she's not involved in VCBB. If she has the institutional memory, should we need somebody to remember what transpired? Because I gave you the emails and everything we had, but some of that was conversational too. Yeah, that's a good point. We could call on Lucy Rogers if necessary. She does still have the same state email address, so we know how to find her if necessary. And in two, Darry, I did use almost the exact wording that you submitted in the proposal for the amendment to substantiate that 413,000. So we do have that amendment that I believe did go to Rob Fish as well. That's exactly right, Bonnie. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, this hopefully this moves through without a problem because they really did commit to it. Right. And I'll stop talking now. Does anybody else have any comments or questions? No, I'm not seeing any. Okay, Bonnie, you can go ahead and leave. You don't need to hang out unless you want to. I mean, you're welcome to say. Have a good night, everybody. Thanks. Bye. Okay, so that was the Treasurer's report that we moved up. So next is public comment. We still do not have a quorum. I'm not seeing any public comment. We are still one shy of a quorum. We're going to skip prior meeting minutes. We don't have a Jeremy Matt, which if we had a Jeremy Matt, we'd have a quorum. Just saying. So then I guess construction materials, warehousing, update, and outlook. We are in the process. We're in the process of we do have two active crews. We're finishing up in CLO 3. We have gone live in four DAs in CLO 1, CLO 2, RSO 1, and RSO 2, and we're finishing up in CLO 3. So construction is continuing with two crews. We are in the process of transitioning our warehousing and inventory management to any K broadband. We gave straight-line broadband a 90-day notice. That 90-day notice expires on May 20. So we are speaking with straight-line broadband tomorrow to discuss the transition. They've already started looking at the materials and how to palletize some things, and we're talking about how to transition the in-person management of the warehouse, as well as the finale updating so that we have a clean audit going into the future. So making sure that finale is optimized, as well as the management of the materials. Lucas, do you want to add anything to that update? The only thing I'll add is I talked to Patrick this morning from inner TC about getting splicing done on Gould Hill, which was one of the last, I believe, CLO 2 pockets that we were waiting on. Construction's done, so we're now pushing to get the splicing testing done because we had a lot of interest right there. We had nine, 10, 11 orders already. David Healy, go ahead, your hands up. Did Patrick say when it was going to get done? He put the request in, but no, we did not have a date yet. So hopefully he does maybe by now, but I haven't heard differently. Is there anything more on construction update? David, your hands still up. With the arrival of Ted, we now have quorum, so we can act if we need to. Yay, Ted, thank you. And the next thing is operations update. Let's go with operations update. We have really good news here. The number that we achieved, so I actually would love for Lucas to deliver this news. Yeah, so as of late this morning, we've found out we have hit 200 paying customers, so that went fast. That went fast with the arrival of more drop crews. We're able to really move along a lot faster now, so that momentum should be keeping up right on through the rest of the backlog, and hopefully within CLO 3 as well as we get to open that up. We can keep moving that and get everybody online, so that's exciting. Yeah, we're doing incredibly well. Thanks to Weightsfield. They've really delivered, and also a progress we've made in our procedure for drops. We got some feedback thanks, Jeremy Hansen, for your feedback. We have implemented a procedure where we will let the customer know when we're preparing for a drop in preparation for a later install. So for those of you who aren't aware, the installation of CV fiber comes in two steps. You have to prepare it through a drop process, and then Weightsfield comes back later for the installation itself. The procedure was that folks would just go and do the drop. They would get ahead of the drops, and we got some feedback. It is expected in the industry that we would just go out and do the ready work. But then because we're a very rural area, there's a higher expectation of privacy. So Weightsfield has decided to implement our request, which is to let the customer know when we're doing the drop, and that's the right thing to do. John Russell, your hands up. Go ahead. John Russell, you're muted. Do you know when was that decision made? Last week, we brought it to their attention, and they immediately that same day said, hey, we'll let the crews know that we're going to do this. They said that they had expected that they would do this previously as part of the process, but I know in the industry it wasn't standard, and also it wasn't being done routinely by our crews. So this is brand new. Okay, because there was an install last week in which the people just showed up here on Holt's Road and started pulling fiber down to somebody's house, thinking they weren't even home. They were home, and they were able to pull it through the conduit, but they would have left just leaving the fiber all coiled up next to the pole, except that I happened to drive by and said, hey, what's going on? So I hope that they will actually start doing it, because nobody was set up for them to be there. Okay, that's good to know. Yeah, we did discuss it again today on our operations call. We are understanding that they're being reminded, the crews are being reminded that this is important to us to notify the customer. Well, again, we don't notify, but we knock on the door. So drops do not get planned ahead. It's just knock on the door, hey, this is what we're doing. Okay, well, apropos of that, they did knock on the door, but they knocked on the door, which can't be heard from inside the house, because it's in a porch, and they were just going to leave this stuff next to the pole. And like I said, though, I did stop by, but nobody was ready. Nobody was ready for them. A great crew, no problem with the crew. They're wonderful people. Josh and I didn't get the other person's name, but they were great. They did the job beautifully, etc., etc. But like I said, nobody was ready. So just walking up to somebody's house, they may not be home. Well, so that's why they do it that way, because there's nothing to be ready for. All they have to do is be outside. There's no inside work at that time. There was inside work. They pulled it through the conduit into the cellar. That's a different scenario than usual then. Okay. Usually the conduits on the outside of the house, where they place the ONT. So that's a little bit different, yeah. Everybody should have known that this was inside because somebody had visited and seen that the pole would have been from in the cellar. So I'm just saying that there needs to be more communication before you get there. Can you tell us the name of the customer or a set? No, don't tell us the name. Send the name to Olivia. Olivia Nose. Olivia Nose. I know exactly. Yeah, John, I know exactly who you're talking about. And this was addressed. Yeah, there was a follow-up appointment. Yeah, I had it addressed immediately as soon as you told me. You're always great, Olivia. Thank you. Okay. All right, I'm going to move on to Jeremy Hansen. Go ahead, Jeremy. So very good news about the 200 customers and such. I was just wondering, if we were to clear the backlog tomorrow, how many more does that add? I mean, of the people who want service and who are ready to give it to them. Okay. I don't have those numbers. Olivia, do you happen to have those numbers handy? I'm trying to think about who would have those numbers. It's about 200. Yeah, I think it's about 200. I think David Healy is correct. Cool. Thank you. John Fisher. Just somewhere to John, I had on Eclipse Day, a truck come up the driveway looking to do an installation. They've been doing drops for a while now and leaving coils next to poles. And that's fine. Like you said, not indoor work. But I was a little surprised to have somebody just unannounced come up the driveway and say, okay, we're here to do your installation for your conduit, which I don't have. So it was listed as potentially going to be a conduit site, but I've since had somebody come out and we've talked about it. We found an aerial route that'll work better. And so I just said, try the next place. But just wanted to note that another case of where there was no forewarning or call ahead or anything like that. Well, that's the first I've heard of an installation drop-in. Usually they will not waste their time if it's not scheduled 10 o'clock on Tuesday. So that's interesting. Okay. Good to know there. Yeah, the process just to clarify, the processes, there's two processes. There's the drops process and that is not scheduled. And it previously wasn't being announced, but it is going to be being announced now. And then there's the second, which is the installation. And that is always scheduled or should be always scheduled. So those are two very different processes and they both have to occur. John Russell. Well, I had the same problem as Tom in which they just showed up thinking that I had a conduit that would have been 600 feet long. And I'd already talked to somebody and we'd already decided that it would come from the pole aerially weeks before. So they just showed up and were dragging the fiber from the wrong pole thinking that there was a conduit starting there, which wasn't. Luckily I came home. It's like they're just doing all their work, but they don't know really what they're supposed to do. I think there needs to be something more than just their iPads. And actually when they came to do the install, they just showed up. Knock, knock, knock on the door. Here we are. They couldn't tell whether I was home or not because my garage door was shut, but they did come to the door and I let them in. They did a great job. Everything's fine. But like I said, I just think there needs to be more communication between the home owner and the people from Eustis. I guess it's just Eustis that's doing the installs and Eustis is only doing the drops themselves. Waitesfield does the actual installation of the electronics. What we've always understood, we're highly organized and scheduled. If that's not the case, then we definitely want to know about that. We need to have some conversations with them. Well, this will be the first I've heard of it. But it was Eustis that did the install here. They did the drop and then they did the install. The electronics and everything? Yeah. They did it right, but Eustis on the truck. That's news to all of us, I think. Okay. Yeah. We'll talk to Eustis. Cool. Thank you, John. Olivia, go ahead. I wanted to address a comment that David Healy left in the sidebar. It's something that we're thinking of updating. Right now we have site survey door hangers, which is another prerequisite that is unannounced. But we're thinking of putting a special section for technician notes and a phone number if there are special requests for the customer to reach out. Because that time period between a site survey and a drop is really, you know, it's like the open window. And I'm thinking that the door hangers should be updated at this point. Also indicating whether your drop is aerial or conduit or you have the option of doing aerial instead of conduit, which is kind of like a 2B classification at this point. So again, we've been doing this a little bit now, and we're getting a little bit more mature in terms of, you know, the process. So just want to let you know that on the marketing front, we're making updates accordingly. Any other comments, questions? Okay, we're going to go to the marketing update and outlook. I will start with, it's been a busy month otherwise. Two stores, snowstorms, a solar eclipse, a couple of months seasons. I want to first start by expressing gratitude to John Reed, who represented CB fiber beautifully at the Woodbury Pie Breakfast. It was the first of the two snowstorms. I couldn't attend, Janelle couldn't attend. They actually postponed it from a Saturday to a Sunday, which was actually really smart because the attendance was greater. But even with the photo snow, John spoke to a handful of folks there, auctioned off insulation, a free insulation that we will be doing on behalf of CB fiber. And he had all of our marketing collateral in advance. So that event, really from a brand awareness perspective, we couldn't have asked for anything, anything better. In terms of our digital marketing, we have a new page on our website. Now that we have paying customers, we want to make sure that our marketing material is not so salesy, but we want to educate and retain and inform customers as well. So I've been working hand in hand with Weitzfield and taking some of the material from their website to make sure it's consistent on ours and essentially applying our brand components. So there's two downloadable assets on that connectivity tips page. We have an optimization guide and a voicemail user guide. Again, this will be, this is meant as a hub for more materials to come, but it's a really good starting point. So if any customers have questions, we'll be developing a Q&A that is specific to them and not for the pre-registration folks, which is a whole different section. In terms of conduit, Weitzfield doesn't have a specific date, but we're hoping to get conduit and or rotting installations started in a couple of weeks. Now that will help lead to an influx in terms of our numbers, but it also means that they need to send out an email to notify everybody who needs conduit to get started on that. The tricky part is, of course, there's people that want to do conduit on their own. They need references to contract or specifications. I know NNK is doing a separate program to help with that, but I'm actually interested to see out of those folks for conduit who will actually move forward with conduit and who will shy away from being a CB fiber customer because of that. We just don't have enough information right now to know how many will be retained as customers and who will actually back out from CB fiber because of that information. This is just something that I want to start keeping track of as we move from the spring to summer season. The other thing that I'm working on right now, actually, this is new as of this morning. I've been working with Siobhan and Janiel. We're going to be doing a quarterly town update moving forward. Now that we're in April, Cube One is done. Similar to our annual report, we'll be sending out a PDF to all of our town clerks just with some key stats and milestones and progress information, posting it on our website as a press release and sharing it on all of our social media on front porch form as well. Again, we don't want to be too salesy for all the folks who don't have CB fiber in their outlook for the next year, but we want to make sure that we're keeping people informed of our progress. RD, why don't you go ahead? You're muted. Here you are, RD. I'm sorry. Can you put your comment in the chat? I can mute participants, but I can't unmute them. That's weird. We're just waiting for RD to comment here. Nope, go ahead. All right. I'm going to circle back to the minutes, meeting minutes approval because we have a quorum now. We haven't lost anybody, right, Tom? So, Sybil, do you have a motion for me? You're muted. I could have a motion for you. I would just move to approve the minutes for the March 12, 2024 governing board meeting as drafted. Unless Alan Gilbert, you know, you made some corrections. Do I have a second? I don't remember seeing the minutes. Has anybody seen the minutes from March? Maybe we don't have them. I thought I saw them. Well, I send them to you and Jeremy. Oh, that Jeremy didn't get them out. Yeah. I did a search of my Jeremy file, and there was nothing in there from March. All right. So, never mind. We don't have these minutes yet. All right. So, we're going to move on to the next item. Thank you, RD. And why don't you go ahead and talk about the Board Resource Hub, Olivia, please, and the HR update. I'll start with the Board Resource Hub. So, if you haven't received, I sent out a link last week. It is a password protected page on our website that I would ask that we keep internally. Nothing, you know, nothing too confidential in there, but I do want to make sure that, you know, it is meant for delegates in order to stay informed of any resources that, to anything essentially that we're publishing to help keep our delegates informed, it will be saved on that page. It just helps instead of searching through your emails for attachments, everything will be uploaded into there. In addition, it will help with onboarding and training. And also, our recent HR meeting, we had a couple weeks back, we have links to all of the resources along with the video. So, if you haven't had a chance to look at that, it's all saved on that page. So, again, just to have one single source of truth, that was my goal with launching the page. And also, as we perhaps transitioned with new people coming into new delegate seats, new committees, this will help in that onboarding process. So, that was the goal of launching that page. Also, I want to add here, if you haven't done the training yet, you need to do the training. We are legally required for you to do the training. And I need you to sign the piece of paper that says, I did the training so that we've got that on file. This is all just, this is all grant, procedure, dotting eyes and crossing T's, and also helping our culture and our organization be cool. Because we're where it's at, man. Anyway, so I just wanted to add that on top of that. Did you have something else, Olivia or Janelle, that you wanted to add to the HR thing? No. Yep. Okay. Privacy policy, Alan, do you want to make a motion? Maybe give us a background there. I know you're working on it. Got it, got it, got it. Sure. So, the privacy policy is up for approval. And in a minute, I'll make a motion for that. Basically, here's what's happened as quickly as I can. We had a privacy policy overview developed last year and that has been enforced, still is enforced, as I speak. And we knew that we would have to be developing a full policy rather than just an overview. But we knew we had to coordinate things in our policy with things that were in WCVT's policy. So, Janelle sat down with the WCVT people and started working. And also, I think you consulted with some people at NECade broadband and had some other ideas that you wanted to add. And Maple as well. So, what you have in front of you or what was sent to you is a new revised, full CV fiber privacy policy. There is a separate Wagefield Champlain Valley telecom policy as well. And if you read our policy, you'll notice that we reference that people, our customers have to look not only at our policy, but also at the WCVT policy because that applies to them as well. It would have been really hard, we felt, to put the two together. So, it seemed to make more sense to have two separate ones, but with the reference that they're tied together. So, basically what we did was we just went through and added all the language that you really need to have a full privacy policy. We only had sort of a very broad overview before. And once you have in front of you, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. But otherwise, I'll make a motion that the governing board adopt the new CV fiber privacy policy. Do I have a second? Second. David. Okay. Motion made by Alan Gilbert, seconded by David Healy. Do we have any discussion of the privacy policy motion approval that we have before us? Anybody have any questions or things they'd like to address? I am not seeing any. Do I have any objections to the motion? Again, not seeing any. Do I have any abstentions? And the motion passes. Thank you, everybody. Privacy policy. Finally, yes, right. Thanks, Janiel. It's a lot of work, I know. Yeah, absolutely. So, the next thing up is the drops and line extension fee schedule, not policy. Janiel, why don't you go ahead with that? Sure. So, we originally had a schedule, I'm using the term, to charge the customer $1 per foot after the drop poll to the point of connection at the house or business. And that was confusing in its understanding for our customers. People didn't know what that meant. Where's the takeoff poll? How many feet is it? Is it more than 400 feet? They couldn't tell. The definition of the takeoff poll was confusing. And further, we found that when Weitzfield was going out, they were applying a different kind of policy or schedule. And that is that they weren't charging the customer. They weren't charging the customer. We weren't charging the customer. So, the process on the ground, because of practical reasons, was to simply have one flat rate, essentially, for the regardless of the length for the drop. And so, we decided to make our policy or our schedule match what was actually practical and feasible on the ground. And so, we took out that dollar per foot after 400 feet from the takeoff poll and made it a flat rate drop fee. So, that is what our new line extension policy is. It's more predictable to the customer. It's more equitable to the customer. It means that the customer doesn't have to go out and measure and potentially not take service because of confusion or try to figure out what a takeoff poll is. And very importantly, it is consistent with what Weitzfield was already doing and what makes practical sense on the ground. So, that is our policy. What we're calling a line extension drops fee schedule. And we need a motion on this, I think. We do. Yeah, okay. All right. John Morris, your hand is up. Go ahead. I noticed in the fee schedule that it says that it doesn't include any conduit. My understanding before was that we were considering including conduit, but we're not right now. Not yet. We are doing an analysis of that. We don't have the numbers yet to make an informed decision on that, like what it will cost us. We are doing the analysis. In fact, David Manix, David Healy, Tom Fisher have done some significant looking into it and have consulted with Weitzfield. And we are going to look at possibly covering conduit in the future, but we're not quite there yet with the numbers that we have available to us. So, at this point, we're just covering both aerial and underground, but not covering the cost of actually burying the service. That is correct. Thank you. Tom Fisher. I move that we accept this fee schedule as drafted. Second. Was that that seconded? That was Christopher. Christopher, thank you, Christopher. It was moved by Tom Fisher, seconded by Christopher Schenck to adopt the fee schedule as drafted. Do we have any discussion or comments or questions? Any interpretive dance numbers about the fee schedule? Okay. No. All right. This is pretty incredible, Siobhan. This is great. Yes. Yes, it is awesome. All right. So do I have any objections? Do I see any objections to this fee schedule as proposed and moved? Not seeing any objections. Do I have any abstentions? Not seeing any abstentions. Yay, it passes. The fee schedule passes. This is important work. Thank you. Thank you all so much. The next item is NKCB Fiber and Executive Committee Authority. Janiel, why don't you just go ahead with that? Yeah. Okay. So we were talking about how we make decisions at CV Fiber. These are related. So we believe that the Executive Committee being the heads of the various committees and intergrally really involved in the day to day with CV Fiber might be better positioned to make some of the major decisions at CV Fiber rather than requiring a vote of the board. For instance, the two motions we just passed for the line extension fee schedule and the privacy policy perhaps could be in the hands of the Executive Committee rather than the full governing board. So we need to consider that. We are now talking with NK Broadband about working together whether what a merger might look like if a merger is possible and what authority and governance would apply if we were to become one CUD. So I believe that in having this conversation about decision making, Executive Committee Authority versus Board Authority for various decisions, we need to get through the governance with NK to see what the future looks like with our CUD and with potentially a joint CUD before we make any decisions internally about changing how we make decisions within CV Fiber. So we are going to not change our current structure decision making immediately, but we are currently talking with NK Broadband about potentially merging and what that would look like. And that is a whole series of questions that we're looking at from various points of view, including finance, construction, operations, communications, governance. So we will get through that conversation and we have subgroups set up between CV Fiber and NK Broadband to discuss these things. We've hired a consultant to help work through the process and a merger legislation is sitting in front of the house now in the Vermont legislature. It has already passed the Senate. This would make a merger much more feasible, which would allow CUDs to join and position themselves for many opportunities and efficiencies, not only funding opportunities as we go into BEAD to strengthen us in this competitive process, but also to share resources in a way that would allow us to control the construction and operations in a more efficient way. Jeremy, Jerry, go ahead. Thanks. Yeah, I have, I think, and let me know, please correct me wherever I misstate here. I think the main driver for this has been the BEAD grant and the ability to compete for BEAD. And my question is, why is it not that the VCBB is the applicant for the BEAD grant for all CUDs? Why is that burden on the individual? They have more employees than we do. I don't understand why the burden is on the CUDs to make the application. I can answer that. It is structural. It's how BEAD is structured. So they are a grantee and we would be subgrantees. So the state of Vermont was awarded 229 million under BEAD. And now it becomes a competitive process. And the CUDs then are or not just the CUDs, but also other providers can come in and put an application in to be a subgrantee to that greater grant that was given to Vermont as a whole. David Haley has his hand up and he's done a lot of work with this. I apologize for backseat driving, but that didn't really didn't answer my question. I realize that the state has gotten so much money, but I still don't understand why the VCBB isn't the one that is doing this for the public entities that are CUDs in Vermont. There are oversight. I don't understand why they're not doing that for everyone and making the individual CUDs basically compete with each other for these funds. It seems that it doesn't jive with the purpose of the publicly backed CUD model. And I'll stop there, but it's a question. Yeah, I can take a look at it. Okay. So BEAD is entirely different than the VCBB's VCBB's Act 71 responsibilities. So it's a federal program. And what VCB did in applying for the money had to develop the procedures by which you would fairly allocate or distribute the money based on who could serve as the eligible locations most effectively and most cost effectively and effectively. So it became sort of, even though what you're saying is absolutely correct that that's who we answer to, but because of the way the law is written and the rules are written, they're between a rock and a hard place about playing favorites to the CUDs. So it really does become a competitive advantage kind of situation and applying for the money. But what I was also going to add in talking to Krista recently, the NEC broadband applied for a USDA rural reconnect loan. In their loan, they included 500 addresses in CV fiber. The loan amount they're getting would ask for is for $14 million, I think. So there's some good, you know, they got the grant, they are, once she told me, they are one of the first to apply for the money. And it's a first in, first out in terms of when they run out of money, there's no more money, but they got their application in day two, I think. And so unless there's some problems with their grant application, which it could be, there's some good news for CV fiber and that. Kerry, does that answer your question? I mean, VCBB can't favor CUDs over another, say CCI. Yeah, I think I've got it. Thank you. Because of the lobbyists. That's the short answer. Anybody else have any comments on that? Oh, my God. Are we done? That was the last item on my agenda that I'm looking at. Oh, John Reed. All right. Thank goodness you saved us, John. Go ahead. So is there a motion or a proposal here in terms of streamlining? No, not yet. Not yet. Yeah, this was more informative. Oh, that was the other thing I wanted to mention. We are having a special executive committee meeting on Thursday with NEK to discuss stuff. So that's a special meeting that I called. It's been warned. It's been warned. Has it been warned? Yes. It'll be warned shortly. Yeah, it got warned. So that's happening. So this is all happening very quickly. We have to get all of these decisions worked out. We have to answer all of these questions to figure out if this is even feasible in order to apply for the BED money. So this is all happening a little fast and we're probably going to have more special meetings coming up as things shake out. So if you have more questions, go ahead, John. I have a couple of comments. One is, you know, as CB Fiber moves more to an operational organization, in general, I support moving decision making more to executive committee and to staff. And if there's something, especially with discussions on NEK, you have to hear about that. Speaking generally, I think that that's an idea that would be better driven by the board and not the executive committee or by staff. And lastly, the privacy policy and changing pricing, you know, are two things that I would think you'd want to have full board vote on. If nothing else, they have thumb prints on it. There's nothing urgent about either of those two things. And so those to me do not see what good examples of something that you want to leave in the hands of an executive committee just for PR purposes, if nothing else. Those are my observations. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. I don't know if I should address anything right now. I think it's pretty mature to try and address. We will definitely take that. We're definitely taking that into consideration. Absolutely. You're not wrong. There's a lot. There's so many questions. I'm tired. Chaniel, are you tired? You look tired. I'm tired. I'm a little tired. It's okay. It's okay. We can make, we'll get through. We'll get through this. Simon is tired too. Simon says we're at the end of the agenda and that it's time to go. Does anybody have anything else they want to talk about or anything they want to say? Alan, your hands up. I did have a question about something I ran into about the CCI reconfiguration that's happening. Apparently the PUC had received a, what would you call it, has intervener status by itself and sent to the PUC comments about why they were, I believe, opposed to what the CCI, what CCI and its possible partner takeover company might be doing. What the PUC told NEK was that they are not going to accept multiple opinions from the different CUDs. The CUD should get together and make up one single opinion about how they feel about the case. I was sort of surprised about that because it seems to me somebody should have figured out somewhere in CUD land that there should be one voice speaking and not all the different CUDs, but I guess NEK went ahead and I believe had an attorney to put in a pretty well-developed series of questions for the CCI thing. I'm just trying to figure out how this is all playing out because it seems at times there is cooperation, there isn't cooperation, and one government entity says you guys have to do all this stuff together. Another government entity says you have to do it separately. It gets pretty confusing after a while. Okay, so I can answer that. CCI is looking at possibly being bought out and we, CV Fiber together with EC Fiber and a couple other CUDs, filed an intervention motion using our council. Vecuda also filed an intervention motion and NEK Broadband and a couple other CUDs filed a third intervention motion, and NEKs included a discovery request. So the PUC came back with an order last week and said, hey CUDs, you guys should all work together, talk to each other. So we met on this this morning, Vecuda met on this, and we're having the three attorneys talk to each other and talk to us and decide if there are sufficiently identical issues that we should all act as one CUD or if it would be beneficial for us to continue as separate entities because just because we're a CUD, all CUDs does not mean that we have identical interests with CCI and or whoever buys CCI. So we don't want to make that assumption right now. We want to cooperate with the PUC's order, which was work together, but at the same time we must preserve that we might be differently situated. So there might actually be some people who very much want to work with a CCI or a new CCI or whatever. In fact, I guess some are already at least in the southern part of the state. Yeah, and David just put it in the chat. That's right. And so you can't assume that their interests are identical to our interests or if there's RDOF, CCI in some CUDs and not in others, there's just potentially different interests that we need to be aware of. So we are getting the three lawyers together to determine what is the best way to proceed. And those attorneys were representing three different groups of CUDs. Is there a timeline for how long the PUC review is going to take? I mean, this sounds like it could get very complicated very quickly. Yeah, well, we're meeting this week with the lawyers on Friday. So we're going to move quickly. They're very well maybe. I think there is maybe a couple of week response time. Every order is appealable. We can object to it. And we're moving quickly to identify whether we want to object to it. We haven't taken any formal stance on it as of yet. Great. Thank you. Thank you for staying on that, Alan. I appreciate that because that has fallen off my radar. My radar has a very low range on it. Tom Fisher, go ahead. Speaking of Public Service Department RFPs, I saw one recently came up for the VCBB broadband equity access bead program support. I'm wondering, has anybody looked at that? Is there anything that CD fiber should be taking consideration there of, I don't know, if we have to want to weigh into whoever is providing support or anything like that? It's, no, this is VCBB asking for equity support. I'm sorry, could you summarize what the RFP was? So the title underneath it says the Vermont Community Broadband Board seeks proposals for contracts to support implementation of the bead program. Okay. Yes. So I sat on the digital equity core team and we had VCBB had Vernon Berg group do a digital equity plan which was adopted. And so now it must be implemented. Part of what Vicuda is doing is requesting that we put together study groups so that a deeper look can be had at what we need for long term equity in Vermont, not just implementing the bead program, which of course must happen. The digital equity plan must be implemented. And that's what the RFP is for. But also how best to implement equity plans going forward, especially since the ACP went away. So we have a couple of things going there. Yes, the VCBB absolutely plays a role. Vicuda plays a role in that we are attempting to influence how the plan is implemented, not just through B, but through equity generally through the state of Vermont. Was there a question in there? Did I answer it? There was and you answered it. Thank you. Okay. Anything else? All right. I am going to go ahead and adjourn us at 6.59 p.m.