 All right, everyone. But specifically you are still hanging out with us right here on Y in the morning. And you can plug in a hashtag Y in the morning everywhere on all our social media platforms. That's on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as well as at Y254 channel. And you can stream us on www.kbc.com. Don't see your .KE4 slash Y254. Now joining me right at live in studio is a lady and a gentleman. We're going to take a look at the current state of the political affairs in our country, including, you know, our matters of security and as well as, of course, we saw the end or the weighting of C.S. nominees that actually came to a close last week on Saturday. We're also going to take a look at that and many other issues as well. So joining me live in studio with us is on my immediate right is Shez Violet. I'm going to let you introduce yourself before I get to our next guest. I've served in several leadership positions when I was in the University of Nairobi. I served as a Women's Students Welfare Association Publicity Chair. And I also served as Miss University of Nairobi in the year 2019-2020. Yeah, that's just about the introduction. Great quote, a comprehensive one as well. Good morning. Thank you for being here. All right, I'm Mr. Eric. Yes, Edward. All right, thank you. My name is Edward Gilaga, I'm the current President of Bukiloa Nainchi and also the CEO of Vision 2030 Youth. I'm happy to be here at Y254KBC, the number one station in Kenya, and looking forward to having a very active and positive discussion with the current political scene and ensure that the Mwana Nainchi is represented here fully. Right, let's start off on that note, the Mwana Nainchi being represented fully. We have seen the President who actually came in and he disbanded the special service unit. Of course, there's a lot of extra-judicial killings that happen that are still even happening behind the scenes. Do you think that his regime is the one to clear it out? It's going to be a game back and forth and then at the end you're just going to still witness the same extra-judicial killings. Do you think his call to action is going to bring an end to that? I think like we had this discussion before we went live on air, where I mentioned to you, now I can also talk to the public, is that everything that you're seeing had a beginning. So we have to look at it also at a historical perspective. During the colonial period, we had special units formed by the Queen's government at that time and the governor who was ruling the country, who were assassinating and taking out anybody who was against the colonial government, say Mao Mao's, anybody who brought some form of rebellion. Even Joe Mokinata, our first president, was a target of those special units. So therefore we inherited these units from the colonial master and inherently we have followed up onto these units through Joe Mokinata's government, through Mao's regime, through Kibaki's regime, and now finally through Huru Mokinata's regime. So it's a breath of fresh air and a renaissance because the law enforcement are people who are supposed to protect as provided for in the constitution and never before has independence been given to the law enforcement. The law enforcement, they have a commission within the constitution which is independent and the directorate of investigation, criminal investigation, is also an independent office that should not be used by politicians because even during the colonial times it was used for agitation against the colonial rule. So we are saying the constitution of Kenya provides for Mao 90 to have freedom of association, freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and other freedoms provided for. So we in this matter are moving forward, we support as Bungalow Nainchi, they move by His Excellency William Samoy Ruto and also the deputy president, regard the who has been very vocal in him being a victim. And we know even people like Dennis Itumbi and these are just the big people. But I can tell you that unit has been misused. It's a unit that can fight al-Shabab. It's a unit that can fight terrorists. It's a unit that it's well equipped. But where politicians and people in governance misuse it, that is what William Ruto is against. So that our country can be free of fear or intimidation. Absolutely. Before we even get to the comeback of Meguna, let me get back to you also Violet because I know you relate to that a lot. Do you feel like a Valentine's Day, do you feel like it's going to be a game changer when it comes to matter security? I think that the president has the people of the country's best interest at heart. And I believe that what Edward has said is true. And I think that separating politicians from some of these state corporations that we have is a good thing so that we do not have politicians influencing things that they're not supposed to be influencing. They are supposed to be serving in different positions and looking at the interests of the people of this nation and not the other way around. The coming back of Meguna, has it some sort of brought a new flavor to the times even when it comes to matters, you know, the leadership of the Luonians? Because I remember in an interview he mentioned that, you know, he's going to streamline the leadership of Luonians and, you know, having a vibe for the woman, do you feel like he has a point? He has a very good point. The people of Luonians need him. What is going to happen is that it's going to take quite some time for that to happen. But I believe that Meguna is somebody who has seen the gaps and he is ready to fill them with whatever he's bringing. Luonians needs liberation. For quite a long time we've had, it's like a one-party state. The only reigning party that we've had there is ODM. And when, for example, when we were, we had our nominations, for example, in Kisumo County, we had Raela Molodinga do a six-piece call, which I believe was not such a good thing, because I think that the people of this country need to be given a chance to select and choose their own leaders, not pinpointing leaders and forcing them on people, which is something that is making the leaders who have been elected in Luonians not to bring development to the people. Because at the end of the day, if you come from a certain party, at the end of the day, if you have the endorsement of Raela, then you are going, you're going to be elected, which is something that should not be happening. The people of Luonians need leadership that they have chosen for themselves. For example, right now, ODM did not have any young person. Any young person take any seat. And that is quite unfortunate. And since we are talking today about youth and politics, that is quite unfortunate because it was a party that was not supporting the young people. Do you feel like it never supported young people? I mean, it was clear. Well, I got first hand experience from it, because I was vying in April, nominations I was vying as Kisumo County woman rep. I was not able to afford the nomination fees, which was 150,000. I think in such a situation, if a party should be able to have some waivers for young people, for women, so that we support them in leadership. And you find that for that reason, they selected their own person who was supposed to represent the party in the general elections. And, you know, MDG, which is the party that I vied for, was in Azimio Laomoja. And you find that we were not able to go to any rallies of Azimio Laomoja because we were considered as Madua Dua, people who were against Ra'ila. While in the real sense, we were in the Azimio Laomoja coalition, we were supporting Baba, and we walked through that county to look for votes for him. Miguna Miguna, for example, endorsed me and said that he did, he endorsed you. He posted me on his Twitter and asked the people of Kisumo to vote for me, because the people of Kisumo truly need that change of leadership. If you look at the person that I was vying against, this is somebody, Ruth Odinga was a former deputy governor, she was a minister. These are people who have been in the leadership system, who are supposed to leave space for other people. So that is what I believe Miguna is preaching, and that is what I believe Lua Nyanza needs. All right. Let me throw it back to you, Edward. Even with his coming back to the country, of course, there's a lot of conversations around it, and I'm sure he's going to raise or literally shake up the political scene in the Lua Nyanza. Do you feel like he's going to create that revolution that the Lua Nyanza needed? And if at all, is the environment going to be conducive for him? Because I know the opposition leader Ra'ila Odinga has been, he has been like the god of the Lua Nyanza, but then he didn't make it. Do you feel like Miguna Miguna has the right sound to take up that seat? I think on the backdrop of an injustice, Miguna Miguna is a Kenyan citizen, and it has taken him four years to just get that recognition as a Kenyan. So he comes with a lot of energy. And this energy will be directed towards one Ra'ila Molo Odinga and his entrant, because Miguna has been able to be consistent with his intentions, with his fight for justice, especially of the Lua Nyanza. And he was doing it every other day on social media, and that's how powerful social media can be. And he was active in Kenyan politics until the end. And he said, Baba will not be the president. And his prophecy has come to pass. Now, he also prophesied that he'll come back to Kenya. And he did come back to Kenya on the 20th, on the Mashuja Day, and entered Kenya like a Mashuja. And indeed that has propelled him, despite what people may think in the political divide, or maybe in the side of Azimeo, it has really propelled him among the young people. Because him and William Ruto and the current government, you can see they have all come from a struggle and a bitter fight with the opposition leader and the former president, Urumwe Gai Kenyatta. And therefore, because of that, and they defeated them in the battlefield. You know, when you win a battle and a war in the field, and your soldiers are slaughtered, you have nowhere to speak. And even me, like a president of Bungalow Nainchi, the elected, the sworn-in president of Bungalow Nainchi, was very surprised to see that Rayla Odinga came to Bungalow Nainchi to meet Bungalow Nainchi's opposition without including the president of Bungalow Nainchi. I, Edward Gizaiga, worked for Rayla Odinga. I was an advisor for Rayla Odinga before. But the problem, like my sister raised, is that no matter how hard you try to help, you cannot, because there are so many vested interests. And that is why we are saying for Muguna to come, it is a breath of fresh air for Bungalow Nainchi, because this is someone who we are going to invite to Bungalow Nainchi. And we're also going to write to the political registrar office to say that Bungalow Nainchi is an independent, non-political, non-partisan organization and institution. And therefore, it has to be kept independent. It is the people's parliament, not a political party. So we reject any move. We hear even Calonzo Musioka is making moves to come to Bungalow Nainchi. If they do not pass through the correct elected Bungalow Nainchi leadership, we are going to reject it. And this is actually a breach of the constitution where the opposition has been given opposition leadership. They have minority in the parliament. They have majority in Nairobi county. So for them to come and interfere with the mindset and the brains of young people who are there, who are Bungalow Nainchi, who are mama, who are Bungalow Nainchi, we are not going to accept. Because that is bringing political partisanship into a neutral organization like Bungalow Nainchi that fights not for a political party or a political individual, but for the Muguna Nainchi. And therefore, we are saying and we're calling on the government to assist Bungalow Nainchi, to stop Bungalow Nainchi being a place where politicians can come and try and bring divisions. Bungalow Nainchi has got all the tribes in Kenya. Last time we were even shocked. We looked at the list of the people who came with the Raila Molo Odinga. We can see all of them were from one region. We start with Babu Wino. We go to Jalango. And these are leaders who came there. Where are other leaders from other parts of the country? So therefore, Bungalow Nainchi is not a place for political parties. It is a place for us. Like now, I can give you an example. We are the only city authority among others who have petitioned parliament on the Saudi Arabia issue. Just yesterday, the BBC did an interview of a website or an application that Google has allowed where they are trading with women, African women, like it's a dating site, where men come and say they want that one. That is slavery. That is what Bungalow Nainchi is supposed to be fighting for. Not fighting for political survival for others. We have many issues. We want to sit down with government politely without castigating them. This government has only been there 34 days. So Bungalow Nainchi is not part of the threats that have been thrown to the government and insults. Those are people that belong to a political party, one political side. And we are not going to accept that continue as Bungalow Nainchi because we believe the Mwanainchi requires right now fertilizer seeds in the machinery. The water people require to be given licenses, training for road safety. The women need their rights, their political rights, like I was telling my sister, starts now. Because this is the moment of renaissance in this country when the new takes over from the old. And we are ready as Bungalow Nainchi to take over the mantle from the old regime to a new regime. And we are happy that the government of the day is conscious about this matter. Exactly. And Valentine had mentioned that, you know, the current leadership is actually being met by a little bit of resistance. I remember there was a time President Ruto visited the Lonyangza region. And actually some of the leaders that turned up were actually just quite a handful. Is it because they are suffering from the trauma that, you know, their leader did not win? Or maybe they are angry? Maybe it's because of lack of unity among the leaders in that area? Of course, you know, William Ruto, like I said, my sister said here, thank you very much. She mentioned that it's taken a long time of the people of Lonyangza to accept that the presidency went. And it's with William Ruto. And William Ruto has made pledges for Lonyangza, like any other part of the nation, to provide for them the services that they require, and has also opened his arms to work with the leaders of these areas. So it is normal reaction because it's an opposition area where you'll hear a bit of noise. But I do hope and pray that the lures and the young men and the young women will now see this as an opportunity to reorganize, re-strategize, so that come 2027, we can have new leaders. And not just in Lonyangza, even in my area where I come from, Mount Kenya. We want to ensure that any dynastic, any linkages of lineage, you know, leadership in Africa has suffered because of lineage. Your father was someone, so you have the right. Or your sister is someone, so you have the right. So I believe that Lonyangza has reached a moment. And a moment is here today. So it presents to them to work with the current government, like you can see the ICT Minister Ovalo, one of the prominent leaders who stood with the Kenya Kwanzaa and his prophecy also came to pass. So it's time that the leadership of Lonyangza, and we were very embarrassed and shocked that the governor of Huma Bay would not be part of that meeting. It's not nationalist. Right. It is really partisan. And that partisan politics should end. Let it be in parliament when you're debating and when you're passing policy. But let it not drop into the Mwana Inchi. Because the Mwana Inchi in Lonyangza is the same one in Karatina, in Mombasa. Struggling to earn a living, struggling how they're going to pay their rent and other issues of life, like health. And this is what we want like the opposition parties to do. Don't fight the government for the sake of fighting and blackmailing and propaganda. Fight the government in issues that they have done wrong or which their policies have not implemented. Yes. Let me come back to you, Valentin. Do you feel like the current regime has favored a lot of women? And in as much as when it comes to matters of empowerment, women are fully represented from where you sit in your experience. Since the current government coming, do you feel like it has created that sort of like given women more power, you know, it has made them, it has not disenfranchised them as compared to even like the previous regime? Well, if we look at, if we compare what is happening now in terms to in terms with women empowerment and what was happening, let me say 20 years ago, I think Africa and Kenya has really improved a lot when it comes to women empowerment. Let's take, for example, the seat that I was running for, the woman county representative position. This is a position that was created as a result of affirmative action, which means that this is a position that is supposed to empower women. I got it very easy for me because I was not running against any man, which made it a little bit more easier because we know men are more, you know, financially stable and all of that when it comes to politics. So as a country we are trying, but we are not there yet because even if you look at the parliament, the two third gender rule, we still have to do a lot of nominations to get there. When we look at where people are just voting in the August elections, we didn't meet the two third general. They had to do the nominations and all of that. So we still need to do a lot more work. And another thing is that these organizations that we have that are supporting women in politics, they also need to create spaces for young women in politics. Because if you look at my case, of course, we were running all women, we were all women, but you find that I was running against big fish, like you said. Now, if we had organizations that came in, if I'd had organizations that came in to support me, then I believe I would have taken the seat. But you find that a lot of young women, especially in this country, we do not have enough empowerment. It's still a lot of work that needs to be done. And just to add on to what he was saying, you know, the ground is still hostile in Ruonianza when it comes to what the new regime that we have. People are still not coming to terms, like I said before, with the fact that we have a new president who is not the president that the people of Ruonianza are expected. Now, I like what the crop of leaders, some leaders are doing in Ruonianza. If you talk about Miguna-Miguna, we also have several other leaders from Kisumu like Ranguma-Auta and other leaders who are trying it to push the new agenda so that we have change in that region of this country, so that we do away with the dynasties, like he was saying. I mean, the dynasties thing is so bad that if you look at the people who went to, who are nominated to Iyala the other time, you find that they are daughters of who is who, sons of who is who. If you look at the county assemblies of Kisumu, in Kisumu County, we have someone from Busea County representing the people of Kisumu. It's like, you know, and I'm there, there were several youths who died, who could have been nominated. But these people are not being given a chance. People are being taken from, you know, relatives of who is who. So those are the things that we need to do away with. Those are the things that very many leaders in Ruonianza are coming up to fight against. Because if we don't fight against it, then we are not going to have development. We keep on recycling leaders, recycling leaders all the time. For example, me, you know, leaders that we have, the governors in Ruonianza, these are people that I started hearing about when I was still very young. These are people who started politics before I was born. And these are things that need to change. So we are not saying that we do away with them fully. We are saying that even if they are there, we also need to have a mixture of new blood, a mixture of fresh minds, a mixture of new ideas that we can have so that we have development in Ruonianza. Great. Now let's switch gears a little bit, Edward. I said the vetting of the nominated CES came to a close on Saturday. And previously, the most predominant issue was we had a medical injury who had, you know, assault allegations that previously they have been dropped. We also had Aisha Jumah who was facing graft allegations as well. And then when they charges were dropped from both parties, it raised a lot of eyebrows and a lot of question marks even to steal the reigning, you know, the DPP, Nudin Harji. Do you feel like it was the right move to actually do that? And does it have any meaning as well in terms of even the integrity of our current leaders as well moving forward from now on that we have the new regime? Okay. Justice delayed is justice denied. And of course, I don't know why today we are coming from this backdrop of again going back to the past regime. And you can clearly see there was a witch hunt of these politicians which was played out in the media and in the courts of law where because Aisha Jumah went against the supposedly powers that put her in there, her political party at that moment, she was then blackmailed and, you know, set aside for destruction, political assassination, and many others as well. So it clearly, if you know tomorrow you're going for an interview and you know very well that the case that was brought before the courts of law was not justified, did not have evidence that was supposed to be there. You go to the DPP and you apply and you tell the DPP, this I'm going, you know, this has to be checked into it. And the DPP has the power as an independent office. And I like the way the DPP is also now currently operating because he's operating under independent office. The DPP was number one in saying the way the DCI carried out its investigations was surely. And you remember the big fight between Nordin Harji and Kenoti, former DCI leader. All the time fighting because of evidence in court. They are told to bring evidence. The case comes without evidence. You hear again DCI is going to court without the DPP, those push and shove. But once again, the people who are being denied justice that time, even the DPP, the heavy hand of the executive, the internal minister, security, the president, state house, what, deep state, what, all that was denying the voice to the DPP's office. So the DPP's office was being strangled under all this pressure. But now because the regime has changed and a friendlier regime has come in because even that regime that is there today was in the same struggle the DPP was. So you can see it's not favoritism, it's just justice has been served. However, some of the cases are being reviewed. They have not all been dropped. You can even see for the deputy president, it was withdrawn because those insufficient evidence and our trumped up charges because you have the DCI investigating, you have the police, then you have the judges who have been threatened. You remember William Samoe Ruto, one of his pledges was to add the court of appeal judges who had been denied by the previous regime. I think the previous regime was just in bad books with everybody. And anybody, unfortunately, including Rayla Amol Odinga was associated with it. So you can see how things are happening today because this current regime is now putting into place the injustices. Like my sister was saying, the things that had happened in the past that were anti, like to bring down the Mwana'inchi to ensure the youth don't grow in politics. I remember at once his excellency Uru Kenyatta coming on television and saying the youth Nuaizi insulted the youth and the same youth in that bandwagon are the ones who voted for him. So it's a breath of fresh air. We have a hustler government. We believe that the opportunity is there for young people now, like my sister, myself, and many others to take the mantles of leadership in whatever level they are, in the community level, in wherever they are, and not to be misused by the politicians. All right. On page number four of the People Daily, I'll just highlight for you. There's a story where yesterday we saw the deputy president, Regady Gashago, actually calling Kalonzo Waipa Party Leader, Kalonzo Msiokon, on board. And he literally is like the current representation of the Kamba community. And he said that he wanted to take as meal and part of the leadership so that in the time to liberate part of the negative politics that have been happening in that area. And he asked the people of Kambani to guide the leader in the correct political direction, saying that Kambani was so much in need of government support and should have no business in opposition. Do you think it's a positive move that's also going to actually bring the Kamba community on board? And as much as when it comes to leadership and politics is fully represented? Most definitely. Kambas, like the Wavin and Dettie, the governor of Machakos, the governor Mutula, and the governor Malome, have all said they are going to work with the current regime. And this is why they are working with them because of development, of because election and political competition is only once in five years. So now we just have to focus on positivity. So indeed it is a positive move. But again, you had Deputy President Ghashogwa saying that he's not very sure because after that yesterday in the church service what he mentioned, he said Kalonzo Mosioka came for the Masudjadi and they thought they were now together or talking or discussions are ongoing in terms of development, in terms of the people. But shockingly to see him yesterday in Homa Bay again, was it? And saying that they are going to form a shadow cabinet, they are going to fight the government. Opposition again. Opposition and Kalonzo is there. So you wonder, this early Mr. Kalonzo, you're already building politics into a government that's 34 days old. And we've also heard as Bungalow Nainchi that you're planning to come to Bungalow Nainchi, i.e. illegally, i.e. to hold an illegal procession where Nainchi is sitting trying to figure out how they are going to sort the issues of unemployment, where we are trying to figure out the issues of hunger and drought. Bungalow Nainchi is a national organization that is in all 47 counties. And therefore, when politicians begin to start taking advantage of our sittings, because you know, Bungalow Nainchi is an active organization that is provided for in the Constitution, in the rights to participation, in the rights to public participation, in the rights to association, and others. So we are enshrined within the Constitution of Kenya and we are non-partisan. So we are pleading with our elders. Please stay away from Bungalow Nainchi. You have your political parties where you can take your issues. You have your elected leaders who are in parliament, who are in the Senate, who can represent your issues, but do not tamper with the peace and sustainability of Bungalow Nainchi because that is the people's parliament, not the national parliament, and not a political party's playground. Right. Valentine, do you feel like, you know, he is afraid to betray Baba since, you know, he's been strongly affiliated. I remember even before we went to election, he had also had talks with, you know, the Kenya Kwanzaa leadership system, but he ended up again choosing that different direction, which literally didn't lead him to come to government as well. Do you feel like he's afraid to betray Baba? Well, I think he could be afraid, because even where I come from, it is politically correct to agree with everything that Baba says. It is politically correct to support everything that he does. It is politically correct to, you know, do his, you know, do according to what he says, but I also think that I appreciate his position. If he wants to be in the position, in the opposition team, I think we need a very strong opposition that can oversight the existing government. So if we can have him on that other side, over-citing in a way that is right, in a way that is not, you know, leaning onto their own personal interest, in a way that is considering the monarchy, the common monarchy, then it is just okay for him to be on that side and give a very strong oversight so that the government can do its best. You know, we can also just not leave the government relaxed. They need those noises. They need a lot of those opposition so that they can keep doing good work and working for the monarchy. So for me, it's okay. Whatever side chooses, that's just okay, as long as they consider the interests of the people and not their own personal interests. The problem with several leaders in this country is that we do most things just to satisfy our own interests, which is something that is not supposed to be happening. A leader is supposed to represent the interest of the people that they are representing. So let them stay in opposition and of a side, no problem. All right. In addition to that, the president issued a directive to have a new appointment of IEBC bosses, and we saw yesterday still Kalonzo Musioka condemning it, saying that he should involve Asmua leaders to form that government, that committee as well. As much as our Fula Chabukati is exiting, how are they actually going to come on board since they're also repelling against the president's directive? And he's the president. He's the one to decide how everything goes, and they're already meeting with a lot of resistance. How are they going to actually pocket themselves to a point they're going to come down, sit down, and then have a conversation with the president and say, yes now, please include us? I think you've already answered that question, because that is how they are supposed to do it. Well, the president is the president, and he's going to make several decisions without having to involve the opposition team. And I think that the team in opposition should look at the correct way to handle these things. If they feel that showing a lot of resistance and making a lot of noise is going to help them, then they can go that direction. But then again, I believe that the president is also against the handshake government. So I believe that they should go about it the mature way and try to talk the president into involving them. But that is not really necessary, because if it's the president's duty to appoint IBC official, then we let him do that. If we come next elections, I'm just hoping that we are going to still have credible elections with no hitches of stealing votes and all of that. But in the meantime, like I said, let them do what they can do. Let them do what they feel is right, but they should do it the right way. Edward, what do you think is the formula they can use to come on board? Because they're meeting it with a lot of resistance, and it seems like it's going to take them quite a long time before they come to terms that, you know, here is Ruto and he is the president. If you were to help them, what would you advise them to do so that they become part and parcel of this current government? I don't think there's any advice you would give them, because they have already made up predetermination that they want to spoil anything. And I want to air my sentiments also in the IBC matter. Obviously, even the entire IBC after the chairman leaves should be taken out of it. We don't want any new IBC, I mean, we don't want the current. All of them should just go. And we choose new ones, because even the four who ran to Serena during the bomber's time. Clearly, if you read, you saw the full report by the Supreme Court, I mean, they should be in jail. You know, that was subverting the will of the people and trying to bring a coup d'etat through the back door. So you can clearly see that the IBC requires reforms and the president is within his power view and within his power mandate to call for that. However, if you want to have constructive dialogue, that is not the way to go about it. You don't go to television, you don't go to media and make a statement on the roadside. That was very low of Kalonzo Musioka, because he knows where he can get his excellency. He's at state house. He knows he has a chief of staff. He knows he has a staff that he has employed state house controller, people that Kalonzo Musioka can reach out to if he wants a meeting with the president so that they can begin this discussion. And once again, I say these roadside discussions, this interference with Moana Inchi, trying to bring political instability, trying to bring hostility at a moment when we're supposed to focus on economic regrowth and economic renaissance, like bringing back the economy back to its feet, not forgetting that we had COVID-19. So when are these leaders from Kalonzo and the others going to bring a debate? If Raila Odinga or Kalonzo is coming to bungalow 92 meters, to tell us that this is our socio-economic program, this is what we wanted to implement there. So here it is to you. We want you to start looking at it. But they're not bringing that. They're making us turn out to be an opposition of government. Yet we are the same people who are asking government, we want to be part of you, like what Kalonzo is doing. He's saying we want to be part of the process. And yet at the same time, he's throwing stones to the government. So this is a high level of hypocrisy. And we as young leaders, and I believe my sister is one of them and many out there that we're talking to today, kindly run away from those leaders and stay away from them. Look at leaders, focus on which minister is coming in next. Focus on your career. Focus on the things that really matter to your life so that you can find a solution to your problems as the government of the day works to bring solutions to you. And I want to echo the issue of opposition. Opposition is there to oversight government. The same opposition that was there during Jubilee is the same opposition that gave a handshake to the national, to the regime that we were losing 820 billion per year in corruption. Right? So the same regime that brought us the BBI is the same regime that brought us all these machinations. Yet the focus on the economy was pushed aside. The focus on the drought. If the former regime, which was the handshake regime focused on the drought because the signs were there, we were being told there was no rain for the next two, three years would not be suffering this soon. And that is why you see the current government is thinking about building a hundred dams. People are laughing about it and saying it's not possible. It is very possible because you will take out the money from infrastructure that does not require high labor like roads and other high expensive infrastructures, which they use a lot of machinery, but bring infrastructure that will include high human resource base so that it employs more people and has more effect like a dam. If we have dams in Turukana, we can do irrigation and those people will not need food aid. Right? So we're saying we are not just saying that we are supporting the government. No, we are saying we are going to hold them accountable to what they promised us, but we're not going to hold them accountable because an opposition party or another ulterior motive is being planted within the youth to bring revolt against the government. Right. And I remember the deputy president, Regali Gashago, also mentioned that he felt that the position leader, Raila Odinga, used around 50 billion kind of shillings to pump into his campaign, to pump into the BBI that failed. And then also there was another 200 billion that was also pumped into the whole campaign, the Asmio campaign. And now there's no money in government at all. And yesterday we saw the president saying that everybody must pay tax. Do you feel like we are going to actually pay for the evils that were done by the previous regime that is in another language? No, no, no, no. I mean, as a Boogaloo Ninety are watching very close and we know that the former regime is very guilty of a lot of corruption and a lot of misuse. And anywhere those cases come up, we will be there to support the Moana Inchi against any actions taken against the former regime because it was full of impunity. It ran the government with a hard hand and yet it was also involved in many things that were illegal. Right. So therefore we as the Moana Inchi say that we are not going to bear the burden. We can only forgive those who stole if they return that money to the coffers so that we as Moana Inchi don't have to suffer. And the issue about the tax, indeed right now I remember when William Samoyeruto came in, he had a meeting. The first first meetings was with K.R.A. and K.R.A.'s Director General Omboro promised and assured that they are going to change the regime of enforcement because you see K.R.A. is supposed not to be an authority. It's supposed to be a service. It's supposed to be Kenya revenue services. It is offering you a service. When it's collecting tax, it is not its tax, it's not its money, it's your money. So there's like Kenya Police Service, Utumishikwa Wote. So K.R.A.'s Director General actually I applaud him for that, which is a change of policy. And you can see even the customer service week recently. K.R.A. was in the forefront of saying that they are going to sit down with people and talk to them of the importance of paying that tax. But what we want to tell the current regime is please manage those resources that are collected by K.R.A. properly. And K.R.A. also keep track of the money that you're collecting. We hear that there are some loopholes also in K.R.A. where money is lost that has been collected. We are talking about Central Bank of Kenya. We are asking the current governor of Central Bank to come with initiatives that will enable the hustler and the muanainchi to grow. For example, look at the digital lenders. These digital lenders have taken advantage of the muanainchi. You borrowed 500 shillings. They are now telling you to pay 10,000 shillings. Under you, governor of Central Bank, this has happened. So we are saying because we do understand the regime that was there before was very dark and black and dark and was very hard. So maybe the governor at that time, he didn't have the powers to put policies that favor the muanainchi. We are calling on that. And the other major issue that we want to call upon because I know time is moving very fast with this new regime is the issue of our women in Saudi Arabia. We know very well that in Saudi Arabia, our women, just the other day, we were at the airport to receive the body of Margaret Wargoro, who might, Governor Sonko, whom we want to thank a lot for he raised the transport from there, all the bills that were being charged there, and he brought the body of the deceased up to here. But we want to ask the government to investigate the agents, especially even that one case of Margaret Wargoro, because that one case will show the rot and the corruption that has been there in the labor ministry, in the national employment authority. Even to an extent, but we're not blaming the Secretary-General of Koto, whom we respect because he's fighting also for these girls, but he also sits in the in the governing council of the ILO International Labor Organization. And the International Labor Organization in 2011 passed an Article 189 for the recognition of domestic workers as workers as any worker globally. We are asking the government of Kenya to address the plight by ratifying and domesticating Article 189 of the International Labor Organization of Labor Laws, so that our women, our girls who are going to Saudi Arabia can avade going into traps of slavery, going into traps of prostitution and sexual abuse and sex trade that we can even see currently we've seen even in Google, there's apps in Google ads that are selling the selling of people of our domestic workers. But at the same time, we also want to say that the government has to continue working with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia because the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has also provided for the much needed employment of all cadres, all job descriptions of Kenyans. We hear even the other day there is an engineer who's who's engineering the underground system who's in charge in Saudi Arabia in Riyadh. So we do also want to take recognition of our international treaties and international we're not fighting any Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. We're there to work with them because they're the third in in remissions, like foreign remissions that come from diaspora and that is commendable. You're lost and final remarks are Valentine as we come to a close. Going way forward what should we look up to even from even an individual leadership perspective as well? Well I'd just like to say that you know Africa's biggest world is in the power of its youth. You realize that young people form 75% of the population in this country. We form the majority and we are the excluded majority. Young people are only being misused. They're only being used to throw stones. During politics you'll hear a lot of Vijana Tielala. During politics you'll hear a lot of older leaders just using these young people as a bridge to get to where they want to get while leaving them behind and actually not doing anything later to support or to deliver to them. Like for example when we had the Azumio rally in Kisumu sometime this year. We have a minute. We had a lot of leaders coming up in front and you know they always started their conversations with Vijana Tielala because a lot of these rallies are attended by young people. Yeah now when a young person comes up to the stage to speak up then they are not even being given an opportunity to speak. What does that tell you? It tells you that young people are being used. We are being misled and if we do not stand up for ourselves if we do not come out and fight for these positions just like others are fighting for them for themselves if we do not come out and also secure the leadership positions get us at the table then we are going nowhere as a country. If you look at the CSS who are selected I don't see any youth. They are still going to be several positions and I promise you that they are going to be very few youths and that is a very sad state of affairs. If you look at other countries they have young people leading them and they have very strong people who are actually delivering. Young people have brilliant minds. We have brilliant ideas that we are willing to bring on to the table and to bring them to life and to deliver to the people. So mine is just to be an inspiration to several young people out there. I didn't tell you but I am 22 years of age and this should be a plea to all the young people there who want to come out for several positions of leadership to come out and come out and fight for these positions come out and speak up come out and speak on issues that affect you so that we make sure that in this government that we have we are considered we are cared about and we have our interests delivered. Thank you. Your final remarks. Thank you very much for this opportunity once again. We don't take it for granted reaching out to the audience and the public out there. In bungalow 90 we are inviting all bungalow 90s to be ready. We are going to have a tour around the country to all bungalow 90 chapters and we are going to launch our charter very soon. This charter is the charter that will be used nationally by all bungalow 90 so that when they want to have their elections when they want to put in place their county leadership their word leadership their sub county leadership they can use the charter to guide them and also we want to say that bungalow 90 is at the forefront working with the county assemblies because we do know from the past happenings is that public participation has been a mirad to many 19 and because of perhaps some of the bills and some of the acts that have been passed may not be money friendly or have hidden agendas and therefore they are not brought out into the public you just hear there was a public participation but there is none so we are going to work with a young they're called Kenya young members of county assembly association and Kenya young parliamentarians association we're also going to work with the speakers of county assemblies so that we can ensure that bungalow 90 now moves a step higher apart from just being the normal people who are gathering in the corners in the gardens in the parks around the nation can also now begin to pass influential public interest matters which can start at that bungalow 90 level to be taken on to the county assembly and subsequently to the national level and also to the senate so that the laws that are only being passed are not being passed by interest groups alone for example if it's pharmaceutical companies when they want law to be passed for their favor they look for lobbies they look for people and they pass them now we as one inch have recognized that secret and in bungalow 90 will be in the forefront not making noise but objectively working towards the recognition of our dreams and aspirations and i'm very proud of my sister and we want to tell her to join bungalow 90 and start the women league because right now in bungalow 90 we've opened up bungalow 90 for women's league i know for a very long time we've had only us male bungalow 90 leaders who have been there and in every book even us we have a woman rep in our bungalow 90 who's going to be accompanying me and also the other leaders so that we ensure that the women's league especially the young women right we want to see your visions and your aspirations and your and your right to participation explored to the limit because at 22 years old as she has said and i know we're giving a lot of attention she deserves william ruto his excellency the president i'm talking to you gashagwa as your government comes into place consider a young lady like this who's only 22 years of age got 80 000 voters woman rep in kisumu county look for what she can do sir and i'm sure she can help the women in kisumu county the women in luon yanza and many others across the country to be a good example and we pray that the youth stay away from alcohol stay away from drug abuse prostitution and things that will put you in danger be wise start a business join a circle join a cbo join a self-help group don't worry about the harsh times we have now of economy it's normal going it's a pendulum it goes left and it goes right so now we're facing the right side of drought right side of decline the right side of everything that of lack but soon and very soon because we have a god in heaven we're going to see the rains come back we're going to see our economy fruition but that will come also if you put hard work into it as young people and participate and hold your leaders accounting all right thank you very much thank you so much uh edward agitaig president of bungalow nine inch for your time and your sentiments as well and remarks and also a volunteer at you know on young we also wish you the best of luck as you take upon this journey it's tough and you're young so we wish you the very best we'll be rooting out for you thank you very much all right you're welcome and just let you know that the views expressed in this discussion do not exactly represent the views of y254 tv but individual views of our guests right here just let you know and as we take a break right about that ensure that you continue to chat with us on the hashtag why in the morning everyone all our social media platforms and minds is a brian so corner one we take a break we'll be back with the mcm segment right here don't change the channel