 George Bruno with the 21 Report. We're at the 21 Summit in Orlando, Florida. The year is 2020. And I'm talking to Mr. Steve Brule from Studio Brule. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, how did it go on the stage in there? I think it went okay. It's hard to tell like how because I don't have a lot of stage experience, so to me it feels one way But it might appear different to people in the audience. Yeah, but I feel probably went as well as it could be. Yeah, what did you talk about? I talked about the role of feminism in a coming one-world government and what we can do about it. What men should do about it. Wow. Yeah, let's talk about it. Just wrap it up and just like a real short kind of thing. Well, feminism plays a key role and its role is in controlling men, keeping men from being competitors, from being a threat to those who want to have a one-world government. So the the powerful of the world could never have dehumanized men to the degree that feminism has been able to do in the last 50 years. So that's one of the reasons why they fund them, but there's a lot more to it than that. They're super powerful, but possibly trillions of dollars a year into feminist organizations or thousands of them around the world all well-funded, as is the United Nations is a radical feminist organization as well. So the question comes is why would the super wealthy who want a one-world government have for 50, 60 years at least and more in history? But why would they put that much money into feminism that openly hates men? The wealthy are wealthy because they do not, they have a nose for where the levers of power are, very, very keenly knowledge of where the levers of power are and they never waste their money. They spend their money and invest their money very wisely and they feel that supporting and growing feminism is a good investment to the tune of probably trillions of dollars a year. There's a reason for that. So I get into that detail. In the talk quite deeply. So feminism isn't just about a women's right to vote, higher wages. It goes beyond that. Yeah, it really has nothing to do with those issues, you know. Because those were brought up. Yeah all the time. They're always brought up, but that's really just to keep us off balance, right? Be always on the aggression. Like if men are always or the society is always having to defend itself from one thing or another then you can never really get around to promoting or advancing the the issues you want to advance. You're always defending. But it goes back even to the 1848 convention at Seneca Falls where officially feminism in the West started. They created a declaration of sentiments and they didn't even weren't even concerned about the vote and the convention included a black man, I'm trying to remember his name, Frederick Douglass, and he was an anti-abolitionist and he made an impassioned speech at the last day of the convention to include the right to vote. The women at the conference weren't interested. And it was only included because of his impassioned speech. They didn't really think it was a big deal. And the reason is that at that point in history the wealthy and powerful white women of the time already had their say in society through their, the men in their lives, their husbands and brothers. So they didn't really, they weren't concerned with the right to vote. And that's the same thing happened in Britain. The women weren't concerned with the right to vote. That was an attack on, added on issue. Interesting. Yeah. By training. I'll go ahead. Sorry, I was just gonna add one thing is that what they were concerned about and the biggest assertion they make at the convention is that women have been oppressed by men through all of time. And that's with us today. That's their real focus to identify themselves as victims, victims who always need to be compensated. Okay, they established themselves in the permanent status of victims as a very outright. Interesting. There's a power in that. And we did a video on that in the Femango file called Victim Mentality Disorder. And talking about feminism as a victim mentality disorder. Anything that divides people or puts people into categories just rubs me the wrong way. Like the two-party system in the United States just drives me crazy. But this thing to declare people victims, certain demographic victims, which only means that the other demographic is perpetrator. Right. Villains. The villains. Yeah. Villains and victims. Right. That's identity politics. That's what the Democrats are up to. It's identity politics. So you are worthy or unworthy depending on your identity, not by your behavior. And that's a stark difference between Republicans and Democrats or conservatives and liberals. Conservatives have a tendency to value people according to their behavior or devalue people according to their behavior. So that's empowering in a sense because you have control over your behavior. Liberals tend to identify certain classes of people as victims and certain as villains. But their classes they identify, you're born that way. You can't change it. You can't change from a white man. Well, feminists think you can. But you can't. You're born a white man or a black man or whatever. And so you have no power over taking yourself out of that victim class. It's disempowering. I don't know if I answered your question. You did. You did. I heard you say that you're training your chemist. How does a chemist, like what a leap, going from an expert in elements to becoming known for dealing with feminism and the social issues. How do you make that leap? Was there a personal experience that has driven you? Is it just interest? I never went into chemistry to become a chemist. My motivation to go into chemistry in the first place was to learn something that could build a base of knowledge from. And at the time, I was 17 or 18 years old, when I started university, I thought that if you want to understand the world, you should start at the smallest level and build up your knowledge from there. So it made sense to me at the time to study chemistry, the behavior of atoms and molecules upon which everything is built. I ended up getting a job. I was good at chemistry. So I worked in the industry for 22 years. 22 years. Yeah, 22 years, yeah. Before I went private business and other ventures. But I was always interested in the truth. And that's what drove me to study chemistry has been driving my interest in everything that I've done in my life. Stuff that was true and stuff that wasn't sort of faddish and go out of fashion. But to answer your question personally, I did go through the family court system and things like that. And I was aware of the power of feminism to being used to put men down. For example, in 1984, laws in Canada and the U.S., I think, too, they implemented this affirmative action program. And we were all sitting in research group in Dow Chemical. I was at Dow Chemical at the time. And the vice president of Dow Chemical came in and announced that for the foreseeable future, they would be hiring and promoting women and minorities in favor of men. And I thought, well, at the time, I thought, okay, that's kind of ridiculous. It's not a way to run a business. Hiring and promoting according to gender. I thought, as one of these corporate programs that would come and go, and we'd see the end of it in six months or two years at the most. And so I kind of shrugged it off, right? But it just got stronger and stronger and stronger throughout my career. And here's the ironic thing. The vice president of research who gave us this news in 1984, interesting year, by the way. That was a woman. It was a female vice president near the top of the hierarchy of Dow Chemical, a global corporation with, I don't know, maybe 50 or 100,000 employees. I don't know the numbers. But she got to vice president level without any help from affirmative action or laws to specifically advantage women over men. And yet she was delivering us this message, telling all the men there that, well, you think you're going to have a career, but basically only if no women apply, you're going to have a successful career. If there are no women, female applicants, you will have a chance to a promotion or a job and so on and so on. And so it went on and on from there. What really got me into this was the protest at the University of Toronto with Warren Ferrell spoke there. At the time I was doing a short documentary for a film festival on divorce men and their lives after divorce. And I interviewed Warren Ferrell and he invited me to his talk. I said, I'm really tired, but I will come to it. I had a four-hour drive to go. I show up at the talk with my partner there who was helping with the film. And there's a bunch of people gathering around. It looked like I thought it was a lineup. I thought, oh, a university talk at 7 o'clock at night on a Friday. I thought I was going to be the only person in the audience, basically, right? Everybody's out drinking and partying. But there was a protest on. So I went back to my car and got the camera out and I decided I'd film the protest. And that turned into, that was viral almost right away. Yeah. So it got me interested in following the whole men's movement, yeah, which got Janice Fumengo involved. And then I met Janice and we started having talks over dinner with her husband, her now husband there. And so I proposed to Janice that we start the Fumengo file and discuss ideological feminism and how it's taken over the university systems. And so one thing went to another and we've been at it now for eight years. Wow, eight years. Amazing. What do you think are the milestones in those eight years? The protests were big because the protests were dramatic to put on film. The milestones other than the protests, the international conferences on men's issues that I've attended, one of them, and Janice has attended, I've attended two of them, one in London, England, and one in not Chicago, but Detroit. Those were very important milestones. Yeah, after that I'd say it's kind of just a gradual continuing process. I would say this. So every time we think that, okay, I can't get any worse than this, it's almost days before the feminist prove us wrong how more ridiculous they can get about things. And some of the important things are like the elimination of due process on university campuses for men, boys are men who are accused of sexual assault, like the Rolling Stones UVA case. Those are terrible. They're very, very illuminating to the power of feminism and the riskiness of young men trying to follow their natural instincts to date and approach women, but it's extraordinarily risky now. And that relates to the presumption of innocence that you talked about. Yes, yes. The universities today, the campuses are almost devoid of presumption of innocence. And even our culture in general is almost devoid of presumption of innocence. I mean, just take the California laws, I think, where I think there's no means, no or something like this or yes means yes or whatever. I don't know the exact things. But basically, and this is going to be only like he said, she said, a young man accused of rape virtually has to prove his own innocence. Because if she even hints that she's no longer interested in sex in the five seconds before you're done, that's a rape case. There was a case of three young teenagers at a party, and one boy was 15, one boy was 18, and the girl was 17. And she asked the two boys to have sex with her, both of them, in a room. And the 18-year-old boy had sex with her, and then she had the 15-year-old, the 15-year-olds of a minor. She had him start the sex, and then about two minutes before he was done, she said, I think I should go home now. Not nothing in any kind of emotional way, no trauma, no nothing. Just casually said, I think I should go home now. And the young boy continued for, I think it's two minutes, or it might be a little bit less, I think. And she then told her parents and that got into the community that she had sex with the two boys, she accused him of rape. And the boy was convicted in a court of law in California. So here's a minor who legally is raped by a woman of a majority age, and he goes to jail for rape on the basis of that. She didn't say stop. She didn't say try to stop him. She didn't say anything on it. He was supposed to have the presence of mind at 15-years-old to interpret, I think I should go home now as stop, get off. It's not reasonable. I don't think that, and the law is supposed to have some like a reasonable man's, a reasonable person's presumption in these things. That's not reasonable. But that's not even the worst of cases. At this point, sexual relations or dating for men on campuses is extremely risky, extremely risky. I did a workshop here and some of the guys were talking about, should we videotape, video record ourselves? And some guys were literally talking about having body cameras in the same way that police officers do to prove. Protect yourself. That's a problem. Well, you get into wiretapping laws and you need a person's consent if you're recording them, that kind of thing. But do you think body cameras and video would be a reasonable solution to protect oneself? It's an emergency solution for sure because the real solution is to reinstate presumption of innocence so that people can't just accuse you of something and then you have to prove yourself innocent. As soon as you have to prove yourself innocent, then you're subject to destruction by the most charismatic person in the room. The most charismatic person is going to persuade the judge or jury. But with the presumption of innocence, and it's the reason that presumption of innocence is there in the first place, is so that an innocent person who has no charisma, for instance, or is not a good speaker, is not destroyed by a charismatic person who may have an ulterior motive for destroying that person. They may be up for the same political position. They may be up for the same job. We're seeing men being kicked out of their jobs and being replaced by women on pure accusations. Pure accusations. There was a politician in the UK who stepped out of politics. He was accused of, I think, pinching a woman's butt or something like this, and he decided to fold. And of course, a female politician took his place. So there's ulterior motives, and our culture is sticking his head in the sands, thinking that you put these unfair practices, abilities in place, like that an accusation is treated like a conviction, and you think that people aren't going to use that, that women are not going to use that in pursuit of their own careers and goals. They absolutely will. And they are. And you talk about these things at the YouTube channel called Studio Brulee. That's right. Janice Fimengo is a prominent presenter on Studio Brulee through the Fimengo files. We have 125 episodes of that. Most of it, but not all. Most of it is dealing with the domination of ideological feminism and its effects on the university system. A lot of it is that. And it's about the stuff that's coming out of universities by ideological feminists, some of the craziest stuff. But she also deals with some contemporary issues in society that we see through the news. She dealt with the Kavanaugh Circus, the Kavanaugh Circus there, with I forget the woman's name who was accusing him. And we do a bunch of other stuff as well. There's live streams. I run a series now called The Red Zone. And I forget all the other stuff. There's a lot of videos on there. There's probably 600 videos on the channel now. Substantial. Yeah, yeah. That's something that's a great body of work. Yeah, thank you. And we've covered conferences and lectures by prominent speakers like Janice, for instance. And Paul Elim's been on our channel a few times through the conference centers and various other formats. Will you talk about the 21 convention at all on Studio Brulee? Absolutely. I already have. Oh, fantastic. In fact, Anthony and I, I think about two weeks ago maybe, we had a live stream talking specifically about the upcoming conference. And then as the material comes out, I'll be talking about it some more as well. Oh, fantastic. Did anyone in particular grab your attention, any speaker during this week? Yeah, yeah, there was a couple. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see near as many of those talks as I would like because at the last minute I switched my topic here. Not exactly last minute, but I had planned to talk about here, myself, about alternatives to a traditional marriage for men to pursue their natural urges to reproduce, and I'm of the opinion that traditional marriage is not a good format for that, but that there are other ways to satisfy and pursue your natural urge for reproduction without going into traditional marriage and without even living together and things like that. And I argue in that other presentation, which will be at the International Conference on Men's Issues in November, I agree in that those ways are better for men today, but I was going to present that here, but because of the upcoming election and the importance of it, I think this is a particularly important election because this stands, Trump is one of the few powerful voices in the world that stands in opposition to globalization, to globalism, which globalists want to usher in a one-world government, which was I felt more urgent topic. So I spent the last two weeks getting that together and I finished it here this morning. Wow. Getting the slides ready to go, so for that reason I spent a fair bit of time in my room here at the conference making sure I was ready to go. But I did see Elliott Hulse and he's certainly very interesting and I asked him to attend my talk because our two talks, when I was listening to him, I was hearing parts of what I was going to say in a different way. He's got a very different angle on it, but we're kind of in sync in many ways. So his talk was very interesting, his first one, he gave three here. And the other one was a fellow that I don't remember his name, but he's a fitness guy. He was a, what do you call it, a fitness model or something like that. And he talked about workout strategies and actually he explained a lot of stuff really, really well and it's well enough that I'm changing how I work out as a result. Was it Jay Vincent about the high-intensity training? High-intensity training, yes, yes, yes. The way he talked about the physiology, if he hadn't explained the physiology part of it, I probably would have dismissed what he had to say. But he's right about the physiology, he's right. So that makes me pay attention to his suggestions on how to work out and I'm going to change my view of my way of working out as a result. Yeah, I think he works out twice a week for 30, once a week. But there's a reason why it works for him. Like the average person like me, I'm not that advanced enough to be able to get that. I can't go into the whole talk, but basically for him, he's at a very fit level. That he can get a very intense workout in, enough to trigger these fast twitch muscles and muscle growth. He talks about it like digging a trench to ram your muscles down and then they have to rebuild out of it. You have to be already very strong in order to be able to dig that big a trench in one workout a week. That's what he explains it like. So I think once a week is not going to be enough for me, because I'm not that strong and not that advanced. I'm going to probably do two to three workouts a week, but I'm going to do them shorter and more intense like his suggestions. He really explains it well. So if you're going to want to look at that, I think you have the name right. Did you say his name again? Jay Vincent. Jay Vincent. I highly recommend if you're interested and you're not getting results in your workouts, take a look at what Jay Vincent has to say. Very well done. Yeah. He's an impressive young man. He is. And strong. Yes. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, yeah. Steve Brule from the YouTube channel Studio Brule. I encourage you to check that out. And how often do you upload to the channel? It's very variable. You know, I've been out of the channel for the last three weeks probably because of preparing for stuff like this. But usually there's at least a couple of uploads a week. Okay. I do a live stream and that's sort of coffee with Steve. And I just go over the news items and stuff that come across my desk and talk about them in terms of how I view the issues that are coming across in that particular time. And then we do the Femengo file usually comes out once every week or two. We're a little slow on that lately. And then the red zone series comes out periodically. It's difficult to say because I had weeks where five videos come out. Yeah. And we have two, three weeks where nothing comes out. Yeah. You know. Well, it's an interesting channel. And it's it's worth finding and subscribing to Steve. I think you are an important voice, not just for the men's community, but in the world. Well, thank you very much. And thank you very much for coming on the show today. Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.