 Thank you. Good morning. Welcome back to day two of Forest Asia. It was a fantastic day yesterday. We had 2,000 people here. We had, as we just heard, 3,000 more online. We had 4,000 tweets and 2 million people possibly reached by that. And not only did we have a very inspiring youth session, we also had 12 countries represented at ministerial level and we had the President of the Republic of Indonesia with us. That was a very exciting day and I'm looking forward to continue that today. What I want to do now is to briefly give you some quotes from yesterday. I will then make an announcement and then look forward to today's deliberations. Some things we heard yesterday was that President Yuriyono talked about governments in Southeast Asia continue to develop regional strategies on adaptive capacities and low carbon economies. He also urged businesses across the ASEAN region to commit to sustainable land use and investment practices. We listened to the Minister of Environment and Water Resources from Singapore Vivian Balakrishnan who talked about unsustainable expansion and poor governance as key problems that we have to deal with. I would like to recall Pawan Sudkar who moderated our first plenary panel. He asked the question, how do we move from perverse incentives such as fossil fuel subsidies to much needed positive incentives like finance for small holders and communities? We also heard, I also have a quote from Mark Burrows who we will hear more about from today and he said there's 23 trillion dollars out there looking for a home. Doesn't sound too difficult to find but and these funds can redefine how we approach sustainable development. Now take compare that with the aspirations of a green climate fund of 0.1 trillion dollars per year. It's interesting to think about the potentials here. So those were some quotes from yesterday. Before I turn to day two I want to make an announcement. It's actually a little launch that I would do here from the podium and that has to do with one of the objectives of this conference which is commitments to research. Now research is done to answer questions but we need to be careful about what those questions are otherwise we may end up with lots of answers to questions that are not relevant or maybe even questions we don't really know and of course conferences like this negotiation processes and other fora are very important to define those questions but we think that this is not enough. We also need to reach out more broadly to the public use modern technologies and offer the opportunity to formulate those research questions on forestry on landscapes on sustainable land use that we are discussing. So to do that we are now building on our initiative that we call evidence-based forestry and within that initiative we're launching a call for the 20 most important questions in forestry. 20 questions that need research and I don't have any powerpoint fortunately but I will show you how to find this 20 questions website and to do that we actually made up an acronym a new acronym that you have never seen before it looks like this it's not coming on the screen it is t20q the 20 most important questions in forestry google that follow the instructions and we look forward to yours and many many others suggestions to the most important questions in forestry that was my announcement and I can I can hand this out later if you didn't if you if you need to memorize if you couldn't memorize it now day two today we're going to dig a little bit deeper in some of the key questions we will look at climate change what are the impacts what are the possibilities to deal with climate change we will have Dr. Parchawri from the IPCC deliver a keynote and second we will look at how do we mobilize finance for smarter land uses and we will have Mark Burroughs tell us more about that we will also have five themes that will as was announced by by my by the speaker before me five themes of the conference that each will have a high level panel these themes are governance sustainable investments climate change landscapes for food and biodiversity and communities and equitable development five themes these will tie together the topics that we have dealt with so far and lead us towards a closing plenary at the end of today that's what's going to happen today it's great to see you all here again and I will now leave to our emcee to announce the prominent speakers in this session I'll leave that to you actually but I know that we have some very prominent speakers coming up just now thank you very much thank you Dr. Peter Holmgren it is an honor to welcome his Excellency Minister Manuel Pugav Veda Minister of Environment Peru thank you good morning thank you very much I feel pleased and very honored to be here with you in this Forest Summit Asia let me say that after I've heard the numbers of 2000 people here 3000 more in live live stream and I don't remember how many people through tweets I'm completely afraid but I will try to make my reflections around the topic of forest climate change the climate debate the debate of development and the COP20 so I'm going to move around these four topics and let me say that we are in a special time we are in a time in which we should take decisions we are we are in a time in which through this kind of sessions we are building momentum we're building momentum because we are short on time to take decisions and we have a goal we need to have by the end of the next year an agreement a new agreement that deal with the climate change consequences that can bring to the new generations hope that can bring new kind of measures to deal and to address the consequence of the climate change so let me give this speech this plenary speech talking around seven or around seven questions or seven topics seven items the first one the climate debate as a development dialogue and the question is how much do the forest is already part of the development debate we are in a time in which in many countries even in the developed countries we are living economic finance and ideological crisis we are in a time in which we are discussing new ways to orientate our development the world development so this is the time in which we can raise topics or issues a sustainable development the topic of sustainable development has been developed by around 25 years it was in 1987 that through our common future the report raised the topic of sustainable development 20 years after that this is the momentum of that topic this is the time in which we can through that focus through that topic we can develop new ideas new visions new ways to orientate our development in many of our countries so how much the forest it is part of that I think that not too much or not too enough so how can we move to that in the UN system there is a debate of the post 2015 ODMs or new ODMs and as part of the ODMs we are discussing the SDGs the sustainable development goals so what it is important is try to identify how much the forest should be part of that discussion what are the kind what kind of indicators we need to include in the SDG debate to be part of what we are going to measure in the future how much we can bring the forest to this discussion and how much we are building in that debate that kind of considerations also in this debate of development we are talking about green economy and what does it mean that green economy means that we are going to rethink the way in which we are measuring our growing we need to include into the GDP more nature consideration we need to include in the GDP the natural infrastructure issue and we need to develop our economy with low carbon emissions so the forest plays a very important role in that green economy discussion and many of our countries are currently discussing the green economy or the green growing because as it has been a mandate of the Rio plus 20 document the future we want every country based on its own reality needs to create the basis for the green economy policy many countries in Latin America Chile Colombia Mexico has already developed the green economy policy Peru is working on that but we need to include more forestry consideration into the green economy mostly mostly based on what it is a reality the reality is that in many of our countries in Latin America the the biggest biggest source of greenhouse emission it is deforestation and land use change so if we want to have a very clear policy to deal with that problem we need to include in our green economy discussion the consideration of the forest and also we have this discussion of the tip the economic of ecosystem and biodiversity in which we should recognize that for the development we don't need only artificial or human infrastructure what we need to consider it is the natural infrastructure how can we consider as part of the policies to creating growth in our countries the natural infrastructure so what I think is that we need to put closer the forestry discussion in all this big debate the post-2015 debate the SDGs the tip the green economy among many others so it is a very big challenge and should be our goal to bring the forest to this discussion this is my first point my second point it is what is the situation of the climate debate now and let me say that we have already developed that diagnosis probably dr. Pachaudi is going to say us what has the IPCC has already identified we know that the current trend is moving us over the two degrees threshold and we know what are the consequences of that or what will be the consequences of that we have already identified the objective we need a new agreement we need an agreement that can deal or can address that problem we need to take into consideration that everybody has responsibility on this issue we also have received the mandates we are close to be 20 more than 20 years discussing the climate change topic since 92 we're close to celebrating the COP 20 and we are putting as a goal to have in the 21st COP an agreement and we recognize that there are some milestones to fulfill with that mandate and to reach the objective to have that agreement we have the next bond meeting in June we have the September the secretary general summit in September we have the COP 20 in Lima in December we have the COP 21st in Paris so if that is as clear as I'm describing why we are not taking decisions what is failing why we are still thinking that we are in the same road that we had had in Copenhagen how can we change that and for me there are some important topics that or issues that can deal with that situation first we need to integrate the discussion currently we are discussing finance in an isolated way red mitigation adaptation but we are not integrating the discussion to try to bring solution second we should be very clear that we are not going to repeat Kyoto Kyoto had their time and now we are going to have a bottom up agreement in which everybody can recognize their own responsibilities everybody needs to take measures everybody needs to take domestic actions so it's not going to be as it had been Kyoto we are going to have a different kind of an agreement third what we need to recognize is that there are many actors different sectors and different countries that are doing things and that countries and that sectors and that actors are seeking for recognition we need to recognize the role of the business sector we need to recognize the rights of indigenous peoples we need to recognize what civil society is currently doing and it's very difficult to bring what it is already done into an agreement but that is the challenge what we need to put in the agreement is stories success stories the business sector is trying to say to us please recognize that things are moving we are not in a year zero we are in a time in which the business sector and different actors are bringing solution and also the forestry sector and also we can recognize that the only way to bring solution is through recognizing the realities the different realities so we need to reinterpret that cvdr common but different responsibilities we need to to to recognize that we should include that principle but in a new way in a new way in which everybody has their own responsibility so that is important in the current climate debate let me move to the my third reflection the forestry issue for me the forestry topic it is still the younger brother of the climate debate because the forest consideration in the climate debate has been developed mostly as a mechanism not as an objective so how can we bring the forestry as an objective so let me in this third point moving from the domestic reality to the international debate first we need to strengthen in policies forestry policies and in that sense what we need to create is competitiveness around the forest we need to create condition to have competitiveness around the forestry sector secondly second for that we need to have enough information we need to monitor our forest the reality the quality the health of our forest also we need to solve the land use problem and the land use problem it is related to incentive it is related to this big discussion of property rights concessions tenures and many other topics and fourthly what we need is to deal with the decentralization processes in many countries in countries in peru the contradiction between the national policies and the regional policies is creating a lot of conflicts so what we need to do is to recognize that probably in the local sector it's going to take better decision but framed by a national policies and we need to create the conditions to fit both of them decentralization it is part in an important part of the discussions around policies my second point it is rights titling and tenure around this idea to strengthen in the forestry sector and around of that what we need to recognize is rights of settlers and mostly of indigenous peoples taking into consideration that currently because the forestry markets of carbon people are losing trust and confidence around that mechanism people are thinking that that can create conditions to lose their lands that that are not recognizing the rights over the land and over the forest so as part of the safeguard that we need to develop we should recognize that rights of the people who live there also we need to create ways to solve conflicts because there are a lot of conflict over the forest not only because rights but also because economic activities when we live in countries as in peru or the or in the amazon basin in which currently the new big threat it is the illegal mining that is creating destruction of the forest what we need to do is to create conditions to solve that over that conflict based on the overlap of different rights for oil for mining for forest for tourism among many others and in that sense the landscape focus can help a lot also we need to revise our legal system because when we try to develop forest based on our legal system we will find a lot of problems we need to create some new ways for the good management of the forest but we need to go deeply in the legal system discussion as part of what we need to do to create that good management and finally what we need to create is rules enforceable rules we need to have ways to enforce the rules because part of the problem regarding rights titling and tenure it is the lack of enforcement of the rule my third point in this three reflect a third reflection it is around the incentive how can we bring the private sector the business sector to manage the forest what kind of incentive can we create to bring the business sector to the forest how much this initiative of unilever is a good example of how the private sector can play a more active role regarding the forest how much this initiative of this oil palm company in Indonesia or in Malaysia sorry I don't remember can help to look at new ways to bring the business sector into the forest but on the other hand regarding incentive what we need to do is to address the problem of the value of the carbon bonds around the forest the current price are creating lack of interest the current price of the bonds of the carbon is creating this incentive to have the business sector and investor more close to try to the forestry sector and we need to recognize and use the consumers to have the companies using the supply chain as part of what it is the solution to protect the forest as a landscape so and finally regarding the incentive what we need to do is to try to put together all the pieces country as in Peru has a lot of projects a lot of initiative but we are not looking that as a big or as a one piece project or program we are looking the forest in an isolated way we are looking the forest just through project through program through cooperation but what we need to create is good conditions and in that sense what we are doing fulfilling the mandate of Warsaw to prepare the national contribution can help a lot my first reflection is how much can we build based on mandate toward an agreement as you know Warsaw had as an advantage that solve many of the discussions around red not everything but some of the discussion has been already addressed and has been already solved so we have some mandates but we need to go deeply to some points first how can we bring the forest discussion into the fine the finance discussion so how can we build through this mandate of results based finance in a realistic way what are the measures that we are going to take to fulfill with the results based finance to have a fit between our goals and the money because there are a lot of untrust between who are going to put the money and who should do the homework so what we need is to create some kind of indicator what that really it means results based finance how can we fit the finance with what it is our own objective and for that also it is obviously very important the capitalization of the green climate fund but the capitalization of the ECF is going to be a political signal but it is not going to be enough it's going to be to bring more trust in this discussion but it's not going to be enough and in the final discussion the big debate it is what we are going to count just public and public new funds or yes the typical fund for the assistance for development or we are going to account private resources or how much the public funds can create leverage to private funds how much the new bonds market can bring more money to deal with what we need to do so that is one important point bring the forest closer to the financial discussion the second point it is in a mandate it is also a mandate we need to identify locally the focal points the focal entities who is going to play that role and probably what we are going to have in many of our many countries it is the discussion between finance minister agriculture ministers environmental ministers among many others so how can we build new entities how can we build new ways to coordinate among these different entities we need to have a very strong focal point but for that we need to sing in a new way to create good condition to have a very strong focal point in that sense also one mandate is to create a national forest monitoring system but for that we need to have our own methodologies in the world there are a lot of different methodologies there are competence between the different sectors companies universities that are used to offering different kinds of methodologies to monitoring the forest but the challenge of the countries is to try to receive that but based on that to build their own methodology to monitoring their forest because when we see in many countries that different kinds of methodologies that critics of one to the other we recognize that we need to create our own based on that experience but it is important to have a very trustable system to monitoring the forest and finally there is a mandate to work around drivers of deforestation and drivers of deforestation means to understand the forest as a landscape that is what c4 is currently doing is look the forest as an ecosystem look the reality of forest not only around the tree but around the people around the landscape around the reality around the agriculture agriculture issues is bringing all the discussion to try to identify drivers of deforestation my fifth reflection it is around the securities and let me say the importance that the global canopy canopy group document has in this discussion it is about securities on the amazon because climate change when we talk about securities in this case and this is a very important document we are talking about water security energy security food security and health security and when we discuss the security around the tropical forest we are able to bring new actors ministry of defense ministry of health ministry of agriculture different actors that are not necessarily working in the topic so it is a way not only to recognize what would be the consequences of the climate change over the tropical forest but it is the way to create links between the different sectors and the different actors so the topic of securities surely could be a good way to move this discussion and to raise it in our local and economic consideration i think that the securities it is an important way to create more awareness of the role of the forest my sixth point it is what it is really a suggestion i know i don't have the answer but if we have into consideration that we are talking about the sdg why and i give to see for that challenge we don't discuss an fdg forestry development goals what do we want to measure what kind of indicator do we want to include in this discussion what do we think are clearly the indicators are going to show us that we are improving our management the management of our forest i think that we are on the time in which we can do that we can develop an fdg let me tell you what happened to me some weeks ago we were discussing with the business sector in peru around the campaign that we are developing as part of the cop 20 and one of the guys who was there told us when we discussed about growing or the economic performance of a country it is very clear the indicators gdp excuse me that i don't know i don't know how can i say in english balanza de pagos and two or three indicators when we talk about the social sector we are used to say to talking around the line of poverty nutrition among others but when we talk about environment or when we talk about forest we really don't know exactly what we need to show what we need to measure what we need to prove so it is important to have indicators and probably try to have fdgs it could be a good way to move forward in this discussion so because i'm taking too much time let me move to my last reflection really let me say what we are doing as part of the organization of the cop 20 what we are doing as the next host country of the cop 20 first let me say that we are very confident we have we are we know that we are able to do something we know that we are able to move this discussion toward an agreement we know that it is a big challenge it is difficult it's complex but based on the latin america position but also based in the partnership with country as the southeast asia countries we can do something and for that what is clear is that we need to have an output and for lima the output should be must be to have a very strong draft agreement to be signed in paris and for that we need to move in the formal process recognizing the role of the adp but also in the non-formal process so we can take advantage of the september summit that wants to bring political will to the negotiation process try to bring the leaders of the world to offer and put on the table what they are able to offer to the world so we have that the adp we have the september summit we have meetings as this in which we are discussing the forest sector so based on that we can deal with our objective to reach an agreement by the end of december but that is not the only objective that we are seeking the second objective it is trying to bring some content to adaptation we are used to talking about adaptation but not necessarily with a clear content what does it mean resilience in adaptation what are the roles of the forest in adaptation what it is our agenda as developing country to recognize what does adaptation mean and how much we can put the adaptation discussion into national contribution and into the final agreement so that is our second goal and for that we have received some mandate we need to revise the guidelines that are the base for the national adaptation plans naps so that is one of our mission the third objective is trying to move the finance discussion into an improvement into some results and as i've already told to you the capitalization of the green climate fund it is important and for that also our fourth mandate is to bring information that is going to be part of the national determined contribution and we think that the balance between finance and national the indices is a good way to create trust to have developed country putting money on the table and to have developing countries identifying their own action not only for mitigation but also for adaptation we are ready to organize the we are moving quickly we are doing what are we're doing our biggest effort to have the countries on the table taking decision by the end of this year so let me finish saying again how please i am to be here how please i am that even though this is a discussion around forest in south east asia i think it is very important to have this region of the world as part of the discussion to try to raise the forest discussion and to not continue to be the younger brother of the debate we need to have political decision political solution to the forest as part not only of the climate debate but the development debate thank you very much