 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a troke of the town I'm getting the sisters, I'm hooking them down I'm reaching the smiles in the frowns again I thought that we were clearing the frowns You thought I was gone? No Oh, yeah, it's me, HD Bindo from the 9-0s I love the energy of the energy Okay So, first of all, HD Bindo Yes That is very neat Okay, thank you So walk us through how you got this name What is your name? Okay, okay So HD comes from My name is Jarius Henry Why would you say your full name? Bro, I love that I'm cool You know what I'm saying? Right? So, boom I ended up on Facebook, I switched my name to Harrius Denry because random people would add me and they would just talk to me, they knew me and it was just kind of weird So I switched to Harrius Denry So that's where the HD comes from And then the Bindo comes from this might be like 2012 I said, fuck the new artist title HD Bindo Right? And I needed a Twitter name So I just put HD Bindo because of that And then just for search purposes that's why I stuck But the Bindo really is because for me, I had to believe this shit before any of this happened You know what I'm saying? Like at this point in my journey, you know what I mean? Like I'm signed to rock and people are paying attention but like for me to even get here it started with me in my bedroom like I had to believe this shit Right You get what I'm saying? So that's what that Bindo needs So it's like an affirmation Yeah So how did you start with me? Especially in your bedroom Yeah So for me, my first introduction I would say was 50 cent Like that was the thing that the person that made me want to grab I was just stealing my brother's CD and shit like that Why have you been just asking about me? Because I mean as a kid And it's just like Fuck that It's a lot more fun than being a little shanky You know what I'm saying? Exactly, as a kid But So yeah I would take the CDs and I would be listening to them from 50 to camera all these people But 50 was my first introduction that made me want to rap And then from there was Wayne Wayne was like the reason like made me want to like play with words You know what I'm saying? And then cold Once I found cold it was like I want to get more introspective And I was like But that's the like holy breath that kind of started my journey I think that it's crazy that you would say like exactly three artists too because on this car you see is that we have to summarize who the big It's getting fortunate now You know what I mean? We're in tune That's all that is We're here It's the New York It's the Brooklyn What Brooklyn are you from? The Brooklyn Where do you think I'm from? Then why don't you? No That's That is the other side for me Where are you from? I'm from the side Okay Where do you from? I don't know where you from Exactly I'm from the nanos Maybe Okay What you mean? They do it They do it I'm from East Flatbush I'm from the place of all the Grenadians and nations You know what I'm saying? My family's Grenadians My family's Grenadians We're here We're here We're here You know everybody in Grenada is related to each other My cousins I feel like that way about all the Grenadians Like Barbados My cousins That's nice So what are you other than Grenadians? Oh that's my father's side of Jamaican Okay One thing about Jamaicans they are loud loud Oh Good time When I went to Yesapakwe or Liberty I wanted to find a Jamaican flow I was so mad My friends wanted to keep listening to Soka I'm like I want to go to Jamaican to be better than one concrete You didn't get that? No We just chipping down the road So Who else are some of your musical influences outside of your movie? Outside of that I mean definitely you know somebody like Hove for sure Beyond that people like Jack Johnson I love the album Okay Between the two I like writing That's the major thing Like me as an artist I'm big on writing So like I just appreciate people that write really good songs And that's one of the reasons I mean I know you said Outside of the Hove and Reve That's one of the reasons why 50 is Such a like More like In terms of writing 50 is a very underrated writer like songwriter You know what I'm saying So that's something that I always take to write What's the first song you ever wrote? Wow First song I ever wrote Well they came on I It was probably this song called Paper Chasing It was a bad song It was a bad song It wasn't filling it How old was it? It's a 11 It's a bad song It's nowhere on it Did you record it? Yeah I was recording music I was recording on like At that point I was probably recording on my little laptop Had this little like netbook You know Okay Yeah And I was recording off of that And I would be recording at my homie CJ's house Like That's kind of how we used to teach So you would record long time This would be Yeah When I was not My girlfriend's mom Right He was at like This exhibit Something like that We showcased my work But she asked me What I wanted to be And I told her I wanted to be a writer I felt crazy I'm like a lot Like I thought I was like You know what I mean I think that that's Something that has changed Like I feel like back then Yeah Like If you said you wanted to be A rapper Everybody's looking at you like What Right If you said you wanted to be Like some type of content creator It was like Okay but what are the odds I feel like now Everybody in here Wants to be a rapper Yeah I mean We have the place now Where you could be Whatever you want Because it's like You just gotta go get your audience And it's like Easier than it ever was If you find an audience Definitely I mean I'd be writing poetry I look at the rappers' poems In itself You know what I'm saying Like One thing that I'd be doing I'd be going to little cafes And I'd be reciting My rhymes But like as poems You know what I mean Just put the beat away You ever watch What is that That poetry game No You never seen what Kanye did All falls down That shit was so good Kanye does all falls down DMX does this crazy poem About the industry This fight Fuck that That's not like I like being at concerts But I don't like listening To live Live music Yes, I can't I like it to sound How it does on the track Like You're like the feeling Of like Bates If I'm there Right, okay If you're watching it on my TV I feel like I could just real quick The song Copy, copy I think we should at least Try that poetry game Okay Try listening to Kanye on it Okay It's just a different experience Okay Okay So do you write all your music? Yeah, for sure Every day Every day Love that Every day Would you ever have a little target? No, that's not really my Flames Okay So I'm interested in your writing process Because as you said Like You were Well, first of all You were listening to very skilled grabbers And I feel like It's one thing for you To be able to put words together But it's a whole other thing For you to be using like Literary devices And that's what you do Like you and me With all the liberation And metaphor So what is your writing process like? For me like So when I get a beat You know what I mean I'll Essentially just Press record And just Come up with flow Just find pockets Are you saying words? Or is it like a moment? Nah, just moments Like I'm just Putting little flows together Trying to figure out What the pocket would be Okay And then Through that process Is usually I'll Find a hook Through that And once I find a hook Then it's like Okay, I know what I'm talking about Versus kind of Come out a little bit easier Once I know what the Not rest of the record is Okay, so subject matter It still matters to you Yeah, yeah, for sure Cause I definitely feel like There's a lot of the time With music these days Where it's like The song is called One thing And they're talking about Everything A through Z Right, right, right But I feel like When you look at somebody Like Wayne Or Jay-Z Like If the song is called Coke in the 80s Everything is going To be revolved around hope Yeah, no 100% every single thing Yeah But like that's important You know Like I feel like that In itself is a skill Yeah You know When you're approaching a record You kind of want to showcase Your skill Absolutely Like that's kind of What we're doing as well Right So I try to make sure That's important So what do you feel like Is your great strong Skills as a rapper Flows Lyrics And beat selection Flows, lyrics Beat selection Yeah What do you think is The most important From the days Beat selection Because it's music Music is about feeling You know what I'm saying Things that you're saying Don't get me wrong As a writer You know That almost sounds crazy As a writer to be Not saying lyrics Are the most important But I say beat selection Because As I said Music is about feeling And what you're saying Is extremely important But in order for that To connect People got to feel it Right You know what I'm saying If people are not feeling That music You could be saying The most profound thing But it's just a matter Okay cool So Beat selection I really Proud of myself For picking Beats that compliment me So how do you pick it I don't know This beat is for me I'm about to eat this up I'm just picky You know what I'm saying I'm a very picky person I'm very okay With being patient You know what I'm saying I don't I'm a verloid Okay So I'm cool With being patient So you know Really Being in the studio It might be a time I remember I was going through B-packed from A whole hour or so No beats No beats But it was just like If I'm not feeling it You know what I mean I'm not even forcing it You know what I mean It's about feeling That's what this music Starts from Feeling So if I'm expecting people To feel something I ain't feeling people Can I expect from you Okay so trying to put An insult word Is what about the Beat to graduate It will be Does this So me as a producer Right A lot of the times Yeah I come from the place Like okay Do I wish I would have made this beat You know what I'm saying Like if I hear some shit I'm like Damn I wish I would have made that Or I feel How the fuck Did you do this If that If those two things Go off in my head Then I'm Already wrapped into the beat If I listen to the beat And I'm kind of like Okay I can already see How this is done Or You know what I mean Like it doesn't really Impress me in that way That's fine But then at that point You know what I mean That the bosses Were wrapping that Whatever So who are Three of your favorite producers Right now Disney Bank Oh it is Best I see you got the feature too You know what I'm saying This is He's making me Very proud Like every time This sends me songs It's just like Wow this is incredible Now that Hit boy I feel like You're somebody Incredible And somebody that I feel like It doesn't get The The widespread love But somebody like Plus He's from My girls camp I would love to ask What's your name He made Humble for Kendrick I was Formation for Beyonce Like Plus is somebody I feel like Obviously He's Seasoning this You know what I mean It has Credits and all these things But I feel like The name Is just something that Needs a lot more respect Plus is incredible So how do you feel about Producer tags then Because You've been the producer Like Even like You decided to tell me that Plus Producer tags But it's like If a hit boy Have producer Or if a hit maker Have producer We would have heard it And we would have known Right So how important Do you feel like Producer tags are I mean definitely in terms of Branding Like that's all the Producer tag is Is branding And I feel like If you want people To Recognize you And your work You have to Make sure your brand Is Okay with Being in the background Right A lot of times producers Are very okay with They choose that Role for a reason You know what I mean Like a lot of producers Be nice Like come up with melodies All that shit But this is like I'm choosing this role For a reason So I think Plus it's in that space You're right Do you have a producer tag? No I don't I don't It's just more Like I always kept My beat making Very low key I do it out of necessity You know what I'm saying I'm like Me From Making my cover art to Oh wow So you're very hands on Yeah very Very hands on And friend I will say Shout out to Cole Cause he did the Cover art for What can they say But for a lot of The work that I've done You know we edited Videos Making cover art Mixed in songs All that stuff Anything that Requires Releasing music Today I can do it But I've done that Just so that Like I understand everybody's Job So now when I go Experts We can actually have A conversation I'm not going to people Like All right here just Do some magic You know what I mean Like I can Just put the language And when somebody Comes to me It's like Yo this is going to Take this It's like All right well I understand what this Really does Take You get what I'm saying So I think That's important If you want to be An artist Especially today No You got to look at yourself As a media I've been doing all day So You got to start Looking at yourself Like that And part of Being ahead of a Company Is understanding Everybody's job You know what I'm saying You don't need to Be the best Everybody's job Go higher the best But You just need to know You know what I mean People can't do Shit to me You know Would you produce A song for yourself At this stage In your career Or do you feel like I'm just No no no For sure I've been Making beats I haven't done it in a minute But I just got back into The groove of that For the last Two weeks It's been Everybody's nice What should style of producing Like what could be It's A lot of it Is just real bouncy You know what I'm saying It all depends on What my mood is You know what I mean Sometimes I might Start with some Samples It could Just vary off Into whatever The mood is Exactly Now earlier You did mention Rock Nation So What's your relationship With Rock Nation Oh yeah I'm signed over You know Me and Luis Remember The Rock The fellas We love that Yeah Thank you We love that So How did you With Rock Nation What's past So honestly That's just Off of The work That we put in This year You know what I'm saying Like me And this Locked in Top of this year And put together This is like Okay This is something Right You know what I mean They seen exactly What we were trying to build And they understood How big We're trying to take this You know what I mean Because for me The music isn't just About You know Having something big Within the city You know that This is going to be Something big For the city But we're trying To take this global You know Like that's the focus Maybe it's as big As it possibly can At Rock is with them Is this a management Okay So what's the difference Between the two So management obviously Just comes with Specific management Things You know what I mean I think working with the Label is about Having a specific vision And plan From A to B I think management Comes from a place of Alright We're just here To set up plays Okay Signed to the label Is right here To set up the brand Like I was saying The full picture Now How has your career Changed Since you made this It's just been A lot more eyes I feel like That's the biggest thing You know People When they hear Rock Nation With my name It's like Okay cool People are a lot more Willing to listen And I feel like With that It's dope Because We know what we've got Like the same reason Why Rock was even excited To attach their name To what we're doing It's always dope To see people Real-time Like really Rock For the reason For So And first of all You were last Didn't know you were last I didn't know I was going last But that was dope Okay Was it edited that way Or did you like Find out the deal In reporting I went last as well Okay So how did that feel Was there some pressure there No I mean I feel like The biggest thing Is just Making sure that You get it out the way That you attend it That's the biggest pressure With any of Those situations It's not a matter of What people have been going to be But you It's a matter of How I feel walking away from it Now Walking away from it Which you said I'm going to mess it up What you said You can't talk to me at 100 mil That's what you said You said You can talk to me now Maybe You can't talk to me at 100 mil Realistic So What three things Are you buying at first When you touch that Wow Well give me a boat Okay I'm going to get a plane Okay Yeah I'm saying And I'm going to get Like A really really really cool Dog A dog Yeah A really cool dog A cool ass dog Like What type of Like I'm probably like a Sheepoo I want like a Sheepoo That's a Sheepoo And a And a food Yeah That's Sheepoo And I'm going to name my dog Cheerio Okay So Why can't you Get a Sheepoo now I can But you said I'm at 100 mil That's what I'm doing I don't know Yeah but like What's happening Like this is You clearly I could go get a boat today Right Technically Like if there's a will There's a way I could go get a boat today Um Like no See look You already No I could go get a boat today Okay no Let me tell you what I think The difference is Um I think that You probably Could go get a boat today I break you Probably Could go get a plane today I break you Right I didn't know The Sheepoo You never know I'm talking about this I suppose Nah I'm talking about this at all But I just I don't understand why You can't believe This is a part of the 100 million You know what I mean A boat plane Cheerio Cheerio Alright I'm not going to be the Today So How does my nation feel to you Like do you guys Feel like a family Or do you feel like It's just like More of a language Nah I think that's Like they believe in Okay The legacy Like that's Me getting into music Wasn't For some like I just want to be here for One album One song Like it's about the legacy Of music You know what I mean Everybody that I Looked at They have Longevity You know what I'm saying So Rock believes in the legacy I feel like With that You naturally Happen In the long You get what I'm saying So it feels a lot More of a family Okay Have you met JT yet That's the big question Da No Okay are you excited to Do you plan on it I mean I feel like When that's supposed to Have finished one after this We got to see you at the Rock Nation brunch That's what You got to be at the Rock Nation brunch You know With the waffles Come on All of that Hosted with J That's what we got to do Now Did you mean Jada kids During the filming Of the cycle Oh yeah Not for sure Jada was Obviously you know Growing up in New York Jada kids not stopped Right You remember when Jada was doing The voice over to the NTA's Okay Let me say I went to school at Albany I got to it Last year So when I came back I wasn't on the trains As much as my car So when I was here I was driving everywhere There was no way I needed to go On the trains So when I came back And I lived here Jada and I started Listening to the train I'm like What the hell This is fire I think it's funny That's hilarious But Point of the matter is Jada kids in the state Were in the New York Colts You know what I'm saying So to meet him I was like Okay this is fire Right But he was Real funny And he just Real inviting me That place was Warm And I was Cool with it Okay Is he the same Jada that we see On TV Jada is a hundred percent J like funny Jada like And do he really Like that Jada be laughing like that That's mad crazy That's mad crazy So I know that you've been In a room with a couple Of OGs at this point Because you went to Hip-Hop Awards So we'll get to that So what's the best piece Of advice that you've got In front of one of the OGs And in my beam so far Wow So This was years ago Okay I met Jada Who was an amateur Okay I was just in like 2015 And So at this point I was Jada's festival In Copenhagen Or the Czech Republic Right I did a festival out there And he was just like Yo you're going to go back To Brooklyn And Like you're going to talk About your experiences Okay And this is just Your life At this point Like when you get a lot of People you're going to talk About your experiences And you're going to realize Some people are going to Think that you're lying Or you're bragging Which is like Those are just People that just Don't understand That we just So why do you feel like That is the most important Because honestly I was expecting to say Something about like Financial literacy Something like that But that was real interesting That you feel like that Like that's the thing that you So Yeah Because I felt like that In this shit In this music shit Especially like You need that People around you That you can express yourself To You know what I'm saying Like it's a lot like Realistically Like But If you just need People around you That you can express yourself To So I feel like If The people around me About I feel like I'm speaking to them And it's like I think it's looking at me Like this And you just Keep talking about it Yeah You can't have that But it's not That helping the environment You know So like that's something That just always Stucks in It's like You got to make sure That Wherever you stand It got to be helped That's so interesting So who's surrounded Well Who are you surrounded I don't know I'm an American I'll ever be You know It's like It's It's a whole team Of People To Feel me but Yeah People And you got it through So in the You got it through So in the So in the You got it through So in the So in the So in the So in the So in the So in the So in the So in the So in the So in the the hip-hop awards that you were at, tell us about that. That was a fire experience, more so because I've been watching awards. My mom really liked the competition like that, so she always used to watch that shit growing up, and then we'd just be watching the awards after. So to be on an award show was like, oh shit. You know, my mom's actually watched that shit too, so it was a fire moment just in that. And then to see how it all goes down, the filming of it, all of that was just like, oh, okay, this is cool, you know? So what shocked you the most about being here? Wow, how much of a movie set it feels like. You know what I'm saying, everything feels like it came out of action. I think we're on screen. It feels just like this. It just feels like a snap of a finger, but when you're there, it's definitely a lot more of a production, even respect, the work that goes into all of this. It's so much movie pieces, you know? So I think that's the good part. So on the Joe Biden podcast, they were talking about how they felt like the hip hop awards was real Atlanta this year. So you've been from New York. Did you get that vibe while you were out there? Like, did you feel like it was very much Atlanta base? I mean, not, because I mean, I was excited to see Bhutan perform like, they ended this year. That Joe's hosts been, Bhutan performed, they ended with Bhutan, but live records, but so many people from New York went to Bhutan. But yeah, it didn't feel like she was good at Atlanta, but for me, how I like it was real, really. So it felt like that. That is my, so I love how I like it. How are you people? I'm excited. Really? Exactly. So how do you feel about the girls overall since you brought her up? Are you feeling the girls right now? Yeah, I'm 100% I feel like it's a lot of fire music coming up in one minute. Tia Vren, she got some fire. Tia Vren? Tia Vren, I think that's the name. She got some fire, P-E-T, that's the name of the record. But yeah, it's a lot of fire, it's shit. You know what I mean? Tracing Dad, she's on my project. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the first time I heard her actually. Word, yeah, she got a record called Daddy, that's crazy as well. It's a lot of dope women that's overgrown with women. I'm not gonna lie, I think the women are dusting the men right now. They are, we gotta keep up. I think that the women are dusting the off. I agree. Like as a whole, as a whole. I think we look at women as a whole, we look at men as a whole. Especially, maybe I'm from New York, so I'm watching the New York girls, I think they are smoking. I mean, I look at it like, the first correction is an over-correction, always. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that is necessary. I feel because in terms of women in abundance, being in hip-hop, it's always been like, kind of like I, this couple of women, but like now it's so many women that's actually prominent in the hip-hop. So I feel like that's, it's supposed to be like that. Especially, you know what I mean, coming from women, come from, this is necessary. Are you talking about the drill scene right now? Yeah, you do. Okay, so we can fill in out of the drill scene right now. Women amen. Okay, Kendrick B.L.A., I think she's super funny. Yeah. I'm still crazy. I think Big Bang still go, like, I think so, too. I'm having a little busy shit, and he love girls. Okay, wow, that's an interesting name I feel like when you say like, oh, you fill in right now, like this thing don't really come up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, like I, I feel like it's real quick. Shout out to you all. That's right. So being from Brooklyn, I just wanna ask you this real quick. Yeah. I feel like the Brooklyn drill, Bronx drill thing, like that's a thing. So who do you think got the better drill right now? Bronx drill or Brooklyn drill? I'm from Brooklyn, like, you know what I'm saying? I really feel like the energy is New York. That's the major thing. Like even when the Bronx drill scene was starting to emerge, you know? That separation was happening, but I really feel like, they just really gotta look at what New York is doing, you know what I mean? As a whole, like, especially how, you know, like a couple of weeks ago when they were suckin' my life, New York is in last, you know what I'm saying? Yo, that's on the last card. Come on, now, like, I'm in tune, yo. I told you, right? But like, how you saying that? Like, I feel like even at that separation, you know, like, all right, what's the difference? Bronx, you know, we, what's the difference? It's better, it's like, now we, New York is, there's a movement happening in New York, and I feel like we gotta celebrate that, because it's been a minute that we had this much, you know? So we gotta get back to the new thing a little later. But back to the division, do you feel like New York is still being held back? Why is that? Because like, you know, a lot of people will say like, the reason New York isn't where Atlanta is right now is because like, Atlanta, they stick together, like, when they goin' through somethin', we don't know up here, like, they be at a beach with themselves, and they feel like us, we don't really look to each other, or like, our DJs aren't playin' all New York music the way you go if you go to California, they play all Kendrick, like, do you feel like that's still a thing, or do you feel like everybody's, I feel like, at least in what we're doin', you know what I mean? I feel like the biggest thing is being the change that you wanna see, and how me and my side is movin', like, we're very much, like, I, everybody's in tune with each other, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, me and Benz, it's Fergie, you know, Niko, Kyle, there's so many people that's made music on our side that we all support each other, we all look to each other, so, I think, even if that's not the conversation in New York right now, it will be so. That's the performance. I love that. So, we're gonna lighten it a little bit, play a little game, rapid-fire fight games. I like games. Okay, I like games too, they be mad at me here, I always wanna play a game. Okay, so we're gonna play a game of rapid-fire questions, let the people know you will look to that, okay? Okay. There's no tapin' out, every question must be answered. Okay. All right. What's your favorite Jay-Z song? I don't know. Oh, man. Where I'm from. Who's your favorite rapper from Brooklyn? Jay. Like, who do you hate, Jay? Who didn't mean to say it? Well, all right, Benz. Okay. How many push-ups can you do on a roll? If you about to tell me to do some, it's not how you do it. Not how you do it, not how you do it. Oh, that just sounded like you're lying. Oh, I think so? You better do it. I'm not lying, no, I'm not doing it. What TV show can you watch over and over again? Who? My wife and kids. That is my favorite TV show of the time. What's your favorite song by you? Wow. Damn. Mad Man right now. Okay. Who's the last person you've pulled? What was your first cell phone? The little, shit, it was a Nokia drink. It wasn't a flip joint, it was, you know, it was just- The slot? Nah, it wasn't even a slot, just the button's right on the joint. It's thick? Not even super thick, it was just like a little small phone, button's right on it, it was blue and it had a little gray antenna. Okay, so what's one song you love that everybody hates? Ooh, that I love. Come back to that one. Oh, that's not really how I would wrap a party party party party. Oh, that's rapid, that's good. You're not even going that fast. Listen, just chill, go to the front. Which fan of yours are you closest to? Love or cousin? What's your favorite thing to watch on YouTube? Random, popular, anything. Okay, and last one, give us an unpopular opinion about anything. Unpopular opinion about anything. The seafood spots have the best wings. Like if a spot is known for seafood, they wing this one out. I don't think I've ever had a winged seafood spot in my life. Look, I just put you on. You're gonna be in the next seafood spot. Yo, make it the wing. That, okay, bitches, watch. I learned about Ocean King. Ocean, okay, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to get into that. So, do you watch the JVP Jump on the Top? Yes, I do. You like your regular watch, right? Yeah. All right, so I saw you post about hearts. Right. And playing the song, I just sleep well. How did that feel? That was cool, that was very, very cool. So, you know, hearts, me and her spoke of, because Alex goes over there. Okay. You know, we know him, so, Ericsson, who shoots my video. Wait, you said Ericsson? When the cameras come up, I'm gonna actually say the same Ericsson. See, I wasn't even gonna say that on here, but like, as I said it, I said Alex, and I was like, I can't say Alex and not mention Eve, but he is. So, that's the same Ericsson. Okay. So, that's how me and Parks link, you know what I mean? And I played with the project, it was probably maybe like a month or so after, you know what I mean? Like, all his reports, so that was dope. That's great. But it felt really dope. So, did you just see like any, like spicing your streams on that? I didn't really pay too close attention to the numbers, but I'll be honest, I'm a feeling guy. You know what I mean? I pay attention to the numbers in the sense of like, okay, I just need to know, did it go up, did it go down? Like, that type of shit, but like, for me, it's, you get the feeling. I feel like as an artist, you kind of know when people is rocking with you, you know when it's quite, you know. Okay. You got to pay attention. So, when you're picking your song, like this is going to be my single. You feel like you use that intuition, like, you know. Oh, yeah, one million percent. Are you always right? I would like to think so. I mean, I wouldn't be able to tell if I was wrong about, I mean, the decisions, you know what I mean? And it's like, I feel like however they land it, wherever they land up, that's the biggest thing in this journey, you know, is choosing the decisions that make the most sense for that moment and taking what you can and learning from that, making yourself better. That's what we represent. Lab, like, it's learning to become better that's my own team. Okay. Well, that's actually my mission. Word? Lab. Lab? Yeah. So, let's talk about performing. You have a whole lot of energy on stage. I watch you are rolling loud. So, how did that feel to perform at Rollin' Loud? Rollin' Loud was amazing. I was like, one of them feeling is that, okay. You do a lot of this work-forward, these types of learning things. I mean, obviously it's for any of these special stuff in front of people, but definitely on those sets of stages, it comes with a lot of weight. So, that was the final moment in that, being able to make those connections with a couple of people out there was a quiet moment. Did you feel nervous? Well, do you feel nervous when you're performing? Well, now, performing is probably the most comfortable. I mean, you know what I'm saying? That's when I let all this shit go. It doesn't even matter what happens up there. Really? I'm feeling good. That's interesting. I did score 20 years, literally. Every single time I stepped on that stage, I had P-Bright before, I was like, yeah. And I feel like it's so much harder as a performer, cause you're rapping your layers in your life. You're not even using the backing track. So, it's like, you're rapping, you be jumping around, you be running from side to side, like. Yeah, that's Tom, yeah. I feel how you do that. I feel like I'm being able to have a good ass Tom. That's really what it is. But I mean, I feel like, naturally, I can't say I've never had nerves before on a show or something like that. I've never had that, but I think even in those, once I'm up there in front of people, it's like, okay, it's in your ear now, like, what's up? How do you prepare for those type of shows? I've been doing shows for like so long that the preparation is a lot in listening to the songs, you know what I mean, beforehand, but it's really allowing myself to be my most comfortable. You know what I mean? That quiet as much noise in your head as possible, that's the best way to do it. Like if you see me before a show, I'm probably gonna be super quiet, like maybe like five minutes before, you know what I mean? I'm like, I gotta take that time, just quiet all this shit. Once you're up there, just you. So what about physically? Because I would imagine it's not easy to jump up and down, like you don't even just be like hopping, like you need to be there. So how do you prepare to say all the lyrics? And I know you said to listen for like, say all the lyrics at the same time given all that energy and running and jumping. As I said, since it's like me, just my most comfortable, it just fit, like I'm just going. You know what I'm saying? You said what? Adrenaline condo. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was just about to say. It's like, it's almost like being blacked out, like I'm not, but it's like that same feeling. Not at all. Now wait a Instagram, right? I was looking and I said, no, it's nothing crazy. I was like, what's on Instagram? No, I saw that you were outside advertising for your show at Metalhead. Yeah. Right. And I thought that that concept was so lit to get like just regular people to be like, yeah, like I'm popping out to the show. Who's I deal with that? That's honest. That's what we do. So when I went on tour with Portugal to men, I was in 2017, right? And what I used to do would just be, I would go in the line, me and my drum and dirt, we would just be in the line just essentially trying to scalp tickets from people. But you know, obviously we're performing, but we'd just be up there trying to get tickets and the whole thing was like once we get on stage, it's like, oh, I'm gonna die trying to take it. So we just used to do dumb shit like that all the time. So now I was just putting it on. So I know you said that your very hands want everything on the music side. How many hands are on are you in like your imaging and your marketing? Oh, very, very many hands on. I mean, like my biggest thing is being able to get product out. Okay. Like today, tomorrow, whenever I can get this music out, I can get everything around what it takes to put out a song in this day and age, put out a project, put out anything new to do it in this day and age would do it in house. Okay, so how has being, okay, how's being signed changed that for you? Because I would imagine like as an independent, are you do whatever you want and win everyone, but now that you're signed, like you have some parameters. Right, right. I think those processes are, like it makes things a little bit, like things take a little more time, but the part of that is making sure that things connect. You get what I'm saying? Like taking that time to all right, hold on, if we look at it from all different angles before we just don't, because I think that's the biggest thing with being independent is how you just go, go, go. Which is good, like, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but the other end of that is taking that, that extra three minutes and looking at it, but all right, we can amplify this in this way, in order to make sure that things explode. Now with that mindset, it sounds like a lot of trial and error would be involved, right? I feel like the, yeah, I think naturally putting out anything, any sort of content is trial and error. That's all we're doing every day. We putting out shit on Instagram. That pigeon got 50 likes, this one got 200, you know what I'm saying? Like everything's trial and error in this day and age. So how do you deal with the failures? That's, I feel like that's the exciting part because, you know, my whole thing is lab, right? Learning to become better, so it's time to learn. Oh, shit, that was a little hard for me to go like that. It went like this, okay, cool. Well, how do we know how to approach it for the next time? That's the exciting part, you know? Like, when it's time to start playing it, we get excited. Got it. Now, I saw a video of you on YouTube and it was on DoubleFL, so that my wife should be on the 2020 pressure class. And then you weren't. So how do you deal with that? Like, do you feel like that was one of those learning experiences? No, I mean, I feel like in those situations, like the idea of trying to get people to like, I need you to believe in this. For me, again, my name is A.C. Bender. Like it started from you believing in it. You know what I'm saying? So anything that is me, like, I need you to believe. It already started here, so like, that's external shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, people gonna catch it when they supposed to. Yeah, and you actually said that in the video. I was gonna bring that up. Even in the video, it was like, you know, y'all want me to try to convince y'all and like, if you don't like it or you don't. That's what we want. And I think that's very bold of you to have like, as a, well, you're not a new artist because you've been doing it a long time, but you just newly got introduced to a larger audience. So for you to just now have stepped into that position and just feel like, if you fuck with me, you fuck with me, not if you're not. Like, that's so bold of you. I mean, it's just the reality, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't ever running from the real, you know what I mean? This shit don't stop what I'm doing, you know? Like, everybody doing whatever they doing, it don't stop what I'm doing. I'm a doing it regardless. First of all, it's so funny to me that you say stop. But that's just mad, you know what I'm saying? You said it earlier and I was like, wow. I ain't even know this stuff. I know what you just put that on. You was like, it's not gonna stop what I'm doing. Yo, why you put that on? Now, you feel like that attitude came from you being from New York and being from Brooklyn, or you feel like it came from personal experience, isn't it? Yeah, I feel like it's just resilience. You know, I said, I was non, right? Like, I told her that I wanted to be a rapper at night. So to have that mindset at that age and still be at it is very much like, I know what I did for her, you know? Where did you get your confidence from? Well, God. Oh, there's no inspiration, nothing else. It's God. There you go, God did. Are you the only child? Nah, I got a brother. I got a brother on my mom's side and I got siblings on my dad's side. Okay, because I asked that because I feel like a lot of the time when people tend to be that confident is from the home. Like, your parents or whoever you do upgrade always telling you like, you're this and you're great and you're beautiful and you can do better. I mean, my mom gave me the space to kind of just be me. You know, like, she didn't really put too much which things it was like, all right, as long as you were doing good in school and I ain't really tripping on what you're doing. So with that, I feel like I was able to just find myself. Okay, so did she give you that same space when you decided that rapping was what you wanted to do full time? At first it was naturally kind of like, man, you are a rapper. My mom from the Caribbean, you get what I'm saying? So you feel me like, what are you doing? But it was one of the things like she knew she couldn't really fight against it because the mindset that I had was determined like, and I'm like, I'm a little defiant. I ain't going to lie. You feel me? So she kind of just didn't really go against it too much and especially once I started going to Europe and shit like that, it was like, all right. Somebody gives the fuck enough for you to get out there. So she kind of backed off at that point. That shit was the same as you? Nah, I don't really, I was gonna ask you how you feel about that. You should be talking about bitches and homies. That's crazy. Oh my God, talk about very civilized things. You know what I'm saying? Talk about my life. I think that there's a very civilized way of talking about bitches and homies. I just be talking about my life. Anyway, like, my mom was just not listening. And that's your life then? My life is very civilized, so I'm trying to tell you. Okay, so why you don't want your mother to listen to that civilization? Because my mom, she liked Johnny Cash, you know what I'm saying? My mom, like, country music, country music, you know what I'm saying? That's what my mom was saying. So do you play your music at all? Nah, I played my mom a song, Mad Longer, I made a song for her. Nah, that's not it. Yeah, I played that for her. Who do you play your music for? Me. So like, okay, to see reactions, to read the book? Definitely my manager, you. Okay. And play it for people like this, you know what I'm saying? People around us, for sure. Okay. Now I feel like, who? Zay. Okay. So just, your answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Now I feel like in 2022, we touched on this a little bit, how like, anybody can be anything they want to be. So I feel like a lot of the time, people rap either because they see the money, or because like they just feel like, all right, I feel like rapping. So do you feel like, well no, you said you were doing this and she was not. So clearly you have a love for it. But do you feel like there's a separation in artists that do it because, like for the love, I was, well, versus, you know, the other side? Yeah, I mean, I feel like the separation is just gonna be the resilience, you know? Cause naturally with anything that you're doing, it's like, just gonna come with some bumps and bruises. And, you know, what happens, what you do after you get them bumps and bruises, that's really the way we tell it. Where you're actually at with this shit. You feel me, and that's the biggest difference. You wanna see some people that's like, I am here to get in and get out, and that's fine. And you don't have people that's in it for the love of all, that's fine for you, you know what I mean? It's all a matter of what you want out of this shit. Cause life is for you. Yeah. And give what you want. Now you being a rapper from Brooklyn, with that mindset, do you feel like you're the best out? I got a song called Best Out. I do see the best out. Oh, okay. I didn't know you did that much research, you know what I'm saying? That's the best out? You didn't see the best out? Uncle, I'll see, you got that. She's making fun. She got it, okay. Yeah, no one, that was the same. You know what I'm saying? Best Out is, you know, I made that record from the real place, from a very, very real place. Like, I made that beat that was, I had a different hook to it, and I was like, okay, we're gonna go with this. It's like, I feel like this could be bigger, this could be more of a statement. And, you know, once I came up with that tone and that hookup, which is, that's the thing I'm most proud of in that record is the tone and the hookup. Okay, got it. Now, with you feeling like you're the best out, what do you think makes you the best out of it? This is neat. You feel me? It's exactly like, it's something of like, even in the music that I just made, right? This project, what can they say? It comes from this place of back against the wall, what you're going through. You know what I'm saying? For me, I feel like there's plenty of people that get to this situation. It's like, all right, what, the world did this? And, oh, y'all gotta get this. Where we come from is, oh, all right, that's what y'all doing? That. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cool, like, we get to it. That's what we come from. So, it's a matter of the resilience is different, you know what I mean? But the after is very different. So, 100 million for the afterboard. I think the worth of this view is visible. For sure. If it's Sesame Street, it's visible. Yeah, let's go with that. So, do you see yourself doing anything outside of music? Oh, yeah, for sure. What are you running your tool? So, you know, I really, you know, as I said, I started this shit looking at 50, right? What 50 is doing in terms of TV in general, which is amazing. And that's definitely a path that at some point we're gonna explore. Okay. You know what I'm saying? What type of, well, if you wanna get it out right now, what type of TV do you wanna get into? Like, you're trying to go in 50 route with the crumb? Nah, it's a lot of stories, you know what I'm saying? I definitely would say, you know, I'm from the non, you know what I'm saying? So, it's a lot of stories that we can tell from there. But also, you know, every day we just be outside, laughing, like, it's just a lot of shit that we can talk to, you know, exactly, exactly. So, it's gonna be a lot of things. So, outside of TV, if you see yourself going into anything else or just music, TV. Definitely those things, like, as my major priority, but, you know, eventually, we want black furniture, you know what I'm saying? Okay. We're going anything for you to... Global. Period. Now, speaking about your main priority, what can they say? Yes. Drop? What is your second one? It's been beautiful, like, the thing about this project, we wanted to make something that was, like, bright side and something that people can just loop. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, this is him. I can get it and I can go spread it to a bunch of people and they can all get it. And that's been the biggest response. Like, seeing people be like, oh, yo, this is, I can run this project, can I stop it? Yeah. That's been cool. So, I feel really good about how people react to music. Mamba has been to stand out right now. Yeah. And another freaking up behind. Okay. Which, like... Now, how do you all about picking your track list? Like, how many songs did you have to pick out from? It wasn't too many that we picked from, like, we had a lot of records that's kind of outside of this project, but this project was very specific. There might have been, like, one or two records that I was gonna put on here that I decided not to play. It was very intentional. Okay. It was a very intentional project. I was gonna ask about intention because when you go into writing your song, or picking a track list, or deciding what's the message for this specific song, this specific album, do you, like, what is the intention? That's the question. What is the intention? It's most, like, in terms of the music, it starts with what do you want people to feel, or, like, what do you feel as being? In that moment, you know what I'm saying? If I play a beat, this what is that beat saying to me? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because if the communication is all between me and the music, then communication's gonna be all between me and the beat. Right. This shit is just communication. You know what I'm saying? And it's like having your friends and shit like that. It could be just one little thing, and now y'all have all been communication just because, oh, you didn't ask me. You feel me? Like, that's how I look at the approach to music. All the communication has to be aligned. Got it. Now, what made you lock in with Earl and the Beat? That was just something that I really wanted to do because Earl was just a name that, you know, was just been around. I was just curious how much shit that he's been doing for Yachty. Like, he's just been killing it. So, I kind of just reached out and was surprised that he was even down to work, you know what I mean? And we went down to Atlanta, put up some records, and it was four records on that project. Now, as somebody that has worked with predominantly one producer, right? But then you've also worked with most producers on the project. What do you feel like is more beneficial for artists to lock in with one producer or to explore different sounds on one project? I feel like locking in with a producer allows people to be brought into a world. You know, and I feel like, especially with music these days, there's so much coming out. Once you can bring people into a world, you can kind of stop people for a little bit. All right, look, this is where you're at right now, and then you're transported. So, I feel like that's the benefit of working with one producer. That was a really good way to explain it. I definitely feel that way. When I wrote that question, I was thinking more about how Nas. I feel like Nas was, I mean, he's Nas, so he's always gonna be successful. But like, before him and Hit Boy got together, I feel like he was kind of searching for, like, where does Nas fit in present day? And I feel like once him and Hit Boy got together, it was kind of- Yeah, it is. It's so easy that everything about it was just like, that's the sound. Definitely a world. Yeah. It's really, really interesting. So, what's next for HV Bindle? Oh, wow. It's a lot of music. A lot of music. That's the name of the game that we have right now. I have a lot of records that I'm excited about. Okay. So I just wanna keep this music coming, but obviously pushing the records that's out right now. I feel like Mamba is an incredible record that has flow and potential. It's one of those records that I truly believe is gonna be something for the city. You know, like, on a major level. So, we just wanna make sure that we get it to that place. So, we're gonna be pushing that record the whole time, but keeping these records coming. I'm still recording these records. Go straight, Mom, we know. First one. Oh, yeah. Any collabs with records? You know what I mean? A whole project. What can they say out now? What can they say? What can they say? So, any collabs in a way? Oh, yeah. Eventually, you know what I mean? That's in the works and things like that, but right now, the records that I got is mainly with the people, you know, I'm here down for it. So, it is down there, of course. Mm-hmm. We got a special record. I'll give you the exclusive. So, what's the final scene? It's me, this, and down here. Ooh! This is a special record. That's just hard. Isn't that a nice snap in? It's a special record. Okay. It's good. What can we expect a full length project? See, that's the thing. Right now, I'm in this space of building up the equity. You know what I mean? I think people will be excited for that full length project, you know? So, we're gonna be using these bite-sized projects and build up that anticipation, but we got a lot of new stuff. Just know that. Got it. All right, so some people I'm gonna respond to. You can find me everywhere. A. Stephen Dope. A. Stephen Dope from the Narno's. Everything things dope. Everything lab. Everything PG is violation. It's lab. It's the rock. You bastards. The bastards takes me out of the chocolate. I'm Laura Kaye, so pretend I'm real.