 Now I'm going to open the slack board meeting So I'm calling the meeting to order at 705 and the meeting hearing was closed at 705 All right So do we have any additions to the slack board meeting? How you had an addition yes? We have a request from a local farmer for a letter of recommendation in a connection with a funding request that they are Asking for it like us to consider that Yeah, the letter of support letter of support. Yes, okay So we'll put that in there and We have the minutes to review from August 21st. I move to approve them it or you've moved to approve the minutes Any further discussion I Know if no one is going to say anything then we can move forward well, but if people want to discuss the minutes we have the opportunity Yes, the minute kicker does a good job too bad we're losing All those in favor, please say I I The eyes appear to have they do have The next thing is public comment, I believe and do we have any public comment? we do not and The next is consideration of the Lincoln tax engagement letter I imagine that's our usual letter There are ten properties which the letter proposes moving forward on the collection of delinquent taxes for and I I move to approve the delinquent tax collection Engagement letter. I'll second it and to authorize the chair to sign it We have a motion. We have a second. Is there any further discussion? Actually, actually, I'm sorry Let me amend the motion if I may we are actually There's no approval of the letter. We're merely authorizing the delinquent tax collector Michelle palace to sign the letter From the attorney. Yeah And I'm just gonna mention that it looks like the cost be probably slightly more than a thousand dollars per per household or first per property that actually goes to tax sale for that would include the title search and Developing all records and copying and all that sort of thing for the attorney in the attorney's time to do that Yes, Mr. Is that um, is that born by the town or is that tacked on to the good question? It's tacked on to the expense of the sale The problem that happens is if you don't get a bidder For the property is then the town number one has to buy the property Because they've got so much money And then you might get stuck with piece of crap like a trail, which is what we were concerned with before but and you know You will recruit your money on most of the properties because people will pay the taxes plus the penalty plus the expenses Okay, so it's me before they make this report by the buyer of the property. Yes in theory Well, yeah, we're the before the buyer of the property Yeah, I mean most of the time that people will pay off their taxes and expenses No, no, it's good question. It's just that the properties that we have to bid on is we may have to suck it up I just buy you know, this is principle And the worst properties for the town again would be a landless mobile home. Yes, and that can happen one why No, what I don't remember is if The attorney simply issues a formal tax sale I'm sorry a 30 day demand letter the taxpayer Which is a small fraction of the thousand dollars or so in charge of going all the way to the sale and the person pays right away Do they have to pay for that hundred dollars or so to I think so? I mean, that's my I think that That's probably the penalties and interests go towards that when you think that that's a good way of looking at it Oh, that's right. You don't think it's a separate line. I don't think so, but I've never seen it before Usually they're equates incorporated There's a total car. I'm not sure I'm not either So if it goes to tax sale, yes, the the town is not on the hook for it If it stops short of a tax sale, it sounds like we're not quite certain what happens But in any case there's an 8% penalty and then an interest rate of 1% 1.5% 1% per month or something Yeah, so it's like 12% But those costs they have to maybe absorb Well, they may have to come out of that money that you were taking it Because they're still gonna have to pay that We still are we are still there in the cost and less I go to sale we assume But we're not really because the 8% penalty in the more But what happens in many cases like probably two-thirds of people will redeem their property will pay the taxes and pay the penalty And it won't that won't incur any substantial cost except for maybe the first the hundred dollars for the letter Right, so we're the town the town was a money on that Can I just ask a question this is Deb Yeah Has the delinquent tax pay collector reached out to these people and told them that they are on a select board agenda And that the next step is going to be that they're going to go to tax sale I mean you just said two-thirds on average are going to pay up as soon as they find out it's gone that serious Have they been notified by the town that it's going to the level of serious now They're going to be notified the first Lawyer in other words, yes. Yeah Gina the town excuse me Gina the town reached out to these taxpayers already, right They received monthly statements. Correct. They received they received a statement monthly from the delinquent tax collector They know they owe the money Yeah, they're no notified monthly so every month they get a bill because their interest is assessed every month So they get a bill for every month their taxes plus plus penalty plus interest Yeah, but we're no longer we're no longer contacting people and trying to work out payment programs with them the way that Oh, yeah No, we are Well, it gets to a point where you often you every month I mean anyone can pick up the phone and contact the delinquent tax collector to reach out to discuss any options that may be available Well, we haven't shut the door on making schedule payments No, we we're still considerate and sensitive to people's need as far as setting up the schedule payments We we've always done that has to go both ways It does I mean they have to help themselves and you know what by us not moving forward with the tax sale We're not helping these folks at all Because what happens is unless you're going to forgive all their taxes They're going to end up paying more penalty and interest the longer they go and if they can't afford to taxes in the first place Then how are they going to afford the penalties and interest if it continues to grow? So most these people are aware a lot of these people do this every year. Oh, yeah So they they're fully aware of what the process is And they and many times people from my own experience in dealing with this in the past past life Um People know they owe the money and they just are waiting for someone to say you have to pay Oh, there's habitual offenders on there. I can tell you that right now, right? Yeah I mean, there's always a few people it might be caught by surprise, but I'm not sure there is on this list No Any more questions? Okay So We're done with the tax engagement letter. Would you read the motion since see if I go So I don't think we need a motion on that. Yeah, we just need her to authorize or send a letter We need to yeah, will you read the motion since I think a little bit and see what it ended up To authorize delinquent tax collector palace to sign the delinquent tax engagement letter from the attorney Yes, there's also a signature line for the chair on that letter as well Oh, yeah, okay So Yeah, yeah, yeah All right, so we have a motion we have a second And all those are favorably sale. Hi. Hi Guys appear to have it they do have it um, okay So the next item on the agenda is consideration of the housing foundation incorporated mortgage discharge sandy pines Now I've signed this already because it had to be notarized And they couldn't we couldn't do it at the meeting. So I came in today To sign it. Okay. So now we're going to authorize you to sign it Okay, I move to authorize the select board chair to sign the letter of mortgage discharge Uh, regarding the housing foundation Loan funded by the revolving loan fund comma Which was paid off in september 2022 Some very specific language in the select board annotated agenda for this motion that was provided by the town attorney Oh, you mean the pardon quotes? Yes, okay. Yes. Yes Just we don't we don't want any issues because he will get a copy of this motion with Yeah, this as well as well. Thank you, Gina. I Nobody seconded my original motion. So I withdraw it and Now move to approve discharge of the housing foundation ink mortgage dated march 18 1998 And recorded at book 61 pages 497 to 503 of the east montpellier land records And dieter you can find that in the memo I'll second that Okay, we have a second zoi zoi any further discussion No, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Hi Okay So we're done with that Well, there's one other item with this just to note that the next step and it was just it was mentioned during the hearing for arpa Is that this is all connected to the revolving loan fund and in doing the annual reporting this year I was told by the state that we we were long in Non-compliance with this because we really haven't been doing anything with this revolving loan fund So our two options are to either return the fund to the state Or the board can choose to Assign these funds to down street. So it's not necessarily just to clarify some words used during the arpa It's not that we're kind of hiring down street to manage our revolving loan fund. We are We would be assigning the fund to down street We it would no long it's no it would no longer be our funds So your next meeting is next monday and I have spoken with down street and have them tentatively scheduled to attend that Actually, they're they're definitely going to attend but attend that meeting to speak with you But in speaking with cassie bell at the state If if the board did not want to transfer the funds or assign the funds to down street Then really there's one other option, which is the funds then go back to the state Yeah, I remember the discussion last year Okay No, did you say earlier gina that They could be earmarked for east Montpelier projects even if they become down street money So last when it was in 2022 when um Rebecca Schrader spoke with the board about this I Down street. I cannot speak to specifically what down street can and cannot do I believe what Rebecca had mentioned and again down street will clarify all of this next week is that they can For a period of time target the funds in east Montpelier Montpelier But certainly at some point the funds will just go into the overall down street buckets But again, they will provide that information to us next week Thank you Okay, I have an administrative point when we switched from the hearing to the meeting I did not stop the recording and restart the recording So it's all going to be one long continuous recording And I think at this point the least bad thing to do is to just keep it that way rather than to start Stop the recording now and restart it Everyone agreed right. I agree. Yeah, it's okay. Gina was nodding. Okay. Very good. Yeah Okay, so I think that we've um Discussed The down street option Uh, so we have a meeting on the 18th. Yeah Yes, yeah Yeah, somehow we kind of missed that they were one week in between so But it kind of worked out with the hearing being tonight Yep, which ended up being less involved than I expected it to be. Um, I tried to keep the agenda thin this evening because of that Fin's okay. Yeah, which I thin is okay. Yeah, the weight watchers meeting. Okay Tonight, okay Um, so the next item is a Lister's airs and emissions which I think we were looking for An explanation of that item on our last agenda. Yes so It's explained right here. I think right Those that's a Email I sent to Gina and she put in your memo, but if you want any more clarification I came to the meeting to do that Oh, I'm just do you want an overview click over you know, it's written down here for the public to hear okay, um We mentioned in our original request for the air on emission that um We needed to change the value by $10,500 Yeah, because we had in error omitted 6.46 acres that happened because a subdivision was done. There were two New lots created. There were three plus acres each And we removed them from the total acreage But they didn't actually transferred to the new owners until after April 1st So we should have left them there until the 2024 tax year So it's not like those 6.64 acres got taxed to somebody else. They were just not getting taxed at all So we got to put them back on Okay, well that helps understand. Yeah Close enough So I think we have to Emotion have a motion on it Right Yes, and you need to sign it I need to sign it or We all need to sign You have a stack of documents that's in front of you requiring signature and this actually has Signature lines for multiple select board members Okay Yep So we approve the errors and emission certificate is provided by the the town listers for 2023 Yeah, okay. Yeah We have to sign all three To approve the errors and emission certificate That's presented tonight. It's a nice meeting. Well, I have to have the number. I mean, right? It's a pvr-4261e and that's just a that's just a cop. That's just a form name. Yeah That's exactly what I said Right here Are we having discussion now or what were you? I don't know. I was reading it probably Sorry, you know why you did such a good job you take it So, okay, the software member, don't be stupid Oh, well, you don't act like a software member. He's a freshman member. I would say fresh. Oh, she's a fresh person Oh I think you're a classmate So you made the motion No, I did not You the car made the motion. No. No, I made a motion John re-iterated the motion In greater detail. So who's second your motion? It's a shit out of me. Oh, geez. How about if I second it? Yeah, that'd be great Okay, we have a motion we have a second now we have to have discussion Does anybody want to discuss any further? I appreciate the clarification. It was unclear why we were being asked to Approve an error or emission last time now it's clear and I'm ready to approve this Okay All those in favor, please say aye. Aye The eyes appear to have they do have it now. I want to have to sign three copies So I'll make sure we do it before we okay All right, okay Okay, we got the error as a mission done consideration of town office cleaning quote What is this quote? I'm looking Cleaning checklist So to sum it up Quickly right now. We're paying $100 per week for cleaning services So we reached out to get another quote as a comparison and just found A company that's out of Montpelier Lamco cleaning and their quote came in at $80 per week Jean who we met with with lamco came to the office toward the office. I participated in that Feel very comfortable with her ability. She ironically enough worked for the town way back when So we're inclined to move forward with this quote Do we have any information on the quality of work that they do at other places? Um, do not but felt very comfortable with her professionalism and um, you know, I think, you know I know chair Gardner has commented to me on The Kind of the state of or lack thereof of some of the cleanliness of the office lately So I think it's worth trying someone else anyway to see what's the level of service that we receive And unlike with the current cleaner This person the current cleaner was not hired with a very clear contract. This person will be Um, and it will have a term on it and include stipulations as well that we can it's our it'll be our standard contract That i'm trying to employ with everyone that we hire now Um, so if we are unhappy we can make a change whenever we want to Nice that was my question that was just answered by the town administrator So I would therefore like to make a motion to accept this contract Um, I believe you are Authorizing the town administrator to draft a contract with lamb co-cleaning service. That's exactly and accept the quote Yeah, we don't we don't have to borrow it Um, we're we're authorizing her to draft the contract or do we want to wait until she um, I I will authorize the town administrator to draft the contract and under these terms Move ahead and sign it and get get the stuff on the road. Yeah, sounds good. Yeah cleaning on the road. Okay So you made the motion. I'll second it. You're second now. Yes, I have to start Or we should have this yeah, I'm wondering what the term you're envisioning of the contract is Gina Well in the past I mean I will I'll probably do a year term on it But our standard contract with that which I've received from jim part barlow same contract We used on the cemetery services as well Always gives us an opportunity to cancel the contract at any time Um, the only reason I want to do a year contract is what we've tipped what we tip Well Our lawn maintenance services for example are on a three-year contract But in this case I would like to do just a year and then you know It's something that I'd like to get on a cycle with all vendors that we renew a contract on an annual basis Uh-huh. Okay. Thank you Uh, so all those in favor, please say hi. Hi The eyes appear to have it. They do have it Okay town garage project update Really have much of an update as much as to discuss next step. I know carl had reached out the vlct So I wanted to just have an open dialogue about next steps here And I just had a question about the wetlands determination that hasn't happened yet, correct Now she wasn't going to get us on her schedule until I think in october so we're Are we on the schedule? Last I heard yes Okay, I don't have a specific date yet, but okay All right, I do have some information on wetlands Following up on my questions about the supreme court decision about what the epa is authorized to do and now the new epa rule that's been proposed I had john groveman who is a vermont natural? vnrc vermont natural resources council water program chair staff member and a lawyer I had him on my show radio show last week and took the opportunity ahead of time to bless you to ask him this very question and he told me that the not to worry about it basically that from an environmentalists perspective that the Wetland delineation in the state of vermont is done to vermont standards, which are separate from the federal standards So the supreme court decision is not going to affect that The standard made vermont standards may also be more stringent than the epa strand standards in the first place. That's what I understand Yeah, yeah But uh as far as do you want me to talk about the Correspondents with the league of the leasing types. Okay. Yeah, okay. So yeah, as jeena mentioned And as we talked about last week, um, you know, I was curious about Whether we could uh, just go ahead with the town garage administration With our two road commissioners who are a select board chair and our our town administrator our road foreman town employee plus a member of the energy committee who's shown interest in um, in getting together and and giving input on this and would we have to designate The this collection of people a committee Uh, that means that whenever two of those people are together talking about The town garage issues and they would have to call a meeting take minutes, etc. Etc. You want it because it would be a quorum, right? Just for two If it's a four person committee, yeah Yeah, we could we could commit a point a fifth person to the committee I suppose so that any two could talk and that fifth person could just be a placeholder So that was a question that was a question and The vlct lawyers town lawyers They always, um Try to be very conservative to Provide advice to towns that would protect them and they said, uh, yeah Go ahead and do it with a committee But on the other hand when I pushed back and said how difficult it would be then The response was it's hard to determine where the line between informal groups taking on tasks and official subcommittees is Because no court has interpreted yet Um, we always take the more conservative approach when guiding our members of gray areas Uh, I think keeping it to town employees who can randomly solicit input from others would not trigger the open meeting law So perhaps directing the town administrator to lead the project with specific tasks And then a sense of whose input the select board expects them to solicit would be appropriate So she also said I do know many towns commonly appointed committee that might meet once or twice a month to work on these capital projects Yeah, but the committee does have to have a one right me right what we're doing is we're talking about having informal get-togethers Right, so if so, it's a gray area. So if we So what we could do is we could have a committee that would meet It could even be in um in connection with our select board meetings, perhaps Uh, just I don't know but in any case we could have a committee If we wanted to but we could also just appoint gena to lead the process As a town employee and then she can confer with whomever she wants and doing that right That was kind of my concern Was being stretched too thin trying to do that. That's what I was trying to avoid Oh, okay. Well, um, we have a rope foreman. What would you think about appointing? Yeah, Guthrie could do it For myself or whatever. Well, you're not a town. Well, you're not a town employee in the same sense Oh, right. Not in the same sense. Guthrie's probably about as equally thin as I am at this point. Um So I think this is the this is kind of the problem where we have what where we are right now We have a very limited staff So can we do the garage project very large project Do we have capacity to do the garage project? Yeah, we do we just need a kid There's no choice. What's that? There's no choice with the opportunity. Yeah But that would be by gena and Guthrie Raoul as far as leading the project Which is so would a committee be Workable or a good thing What what I I mean, I think we need Somebody who can work on this on a day-to-day basis who doesn't wait Around for the next committee meeting in two weeks to give an answer to a contractor But maybe we only have one We only have the engineer looking at the wetlands project at the moment And then we have to work with kathy gent to do the rfb, right? So it isn't like we have multiple Entities coming at us here. We do only have one but at one point we will Eventually, yeah, it is multiple when you consider that the energy committee I mean, we've already had from we're going to build a metal structure to now potentially would now I mean, it's it's it's not cut and dry. So One option would be to hire a project manager that can then my my main concern is just trying to coordinate and get the answer from this person and get the answer just the Just gathering that all the answers and questions from everybody is going to be very time consuming So we we don't even have a clearly defined what type of structure we're going to build so Like I said, I I thought we were going to be building a metal structure and that kind of blew up with now considering so it's When I have spoken with Kathleen jen this lack of scope is even difficult for her to balance Well, I think a couple of us should meet with Kathleen jen if you don't have the time and you and I can Yeah, I just I just want to say that at this point nobody's given up the idea of building a metal build And we would what I would suggest that I did look at the the request for proposals that that Kathleen put together as a draft It should stay stayed in there that we're looking for people to provide us with guidance on They should have some background and do a metal build is it and hopefully Uh Wood structures and let us know which would be more appropriate to construct Um, and then we have to of course we have people who want us to construct a wooden building because it's more Maybe more energy efficient and it doesn't utilize as much natural resources and and and just constructing it but on the other hand They could be damaged quite quickly By having constant moisture in it, which is what they get from the right and it's a lot more Cost costly to design and actually to build to than a metal structure. So and I know that from That's absolutely true. And um So I think that needs to be specified in that rfp That we need people that have experience in that and we're going to be looking for guidance from the architect And the engineering firm to let us know which one they would feel would be the most appropriate to be constructed But I think that you know, jean is saying she's too busy and I've got three years too I think you and I could meet with kathleen jen If everyone's comfortable with that And after we have I would be happy to participate in that meeting. It's more of the long term Oversight of this is more of what kind of I'm speaking with they're speaking about it's You know with what the lct is talking about someone leading this you're talking about someone Kind of project managing and overseeing this effort. That's Not necessarily talking about participating in a meeting in a meeting But don't we have to find out if we can even build the building then? I think I think we've kicked around the ideas with the new information from tonight And we don't have to make a decision on it. So I'm satisfied with the discussion And I just think that at this point we have to find out if we can even build there and that's the point That's what we're trying to do with a wetlands determination And that's the first step we can't do anything until we decide until we know that So let's cross the other bridges as we get to them And I don't think you really need a project manager until you hire on an architect and actually start getting designs and figure out that you're going to build something That's basically what you're saying, but we're not even we're near that yet. So we could meet as a committee Or or is another as an informal group While we work on the RFP and getting that out to um people and Anyway, I don't have a few more questions about the RFP, but we can discuss that with Kathleen But we can't put the RFP out until we just decide we can build the building there, right? We have to wait for the wetlands. Yeah, but I'm more than willing to meet with Kathleen If um, you know, jean is too busy. Yeah, and the select board will be approving the RFP It will be a public document before it goes out. Yeah, of course. It's not just to get it. Yeah put together Right. I think john's had some great ideas. I feel myself We can meet with her if jean is too busy, then we can deal with it And I felt like the last meeting we had Where we talked with the energy committee folks. I felt that um They came up with you know ideas about constructing a more energy efficient building or a building that had a less impact On on the environment, but the thing is they didn't give us any cost Analysis between, you know, one might be cost a lot less to build but might cost a little bit more on the tail end Another one might cost a lot less or more and then be left. I don't know. It's just they I suggested to them that If you have want to recommend something to us Then give us the pros and cons What and they kind of turned it back to us. I said, well, you guys should look into that. Well, no You guys come up with the idea. You're the energy committee. You the people have the expertise in that Some of you are architects. So we've had that background do some research do some research and let us know We don't we haven't given them enough information to ask. We haven't asked them a specific question How big is the building going to be for example? Well, we have it. It's in the rp Yeah, well, they haven't been given the rp. Have they? No, but the point was they just asked a bunch of questions and when I asked them back You know, what are the pros and cons of this they go? Well, you need to look into it Well, I think that we can get I think that number one step Let's figure out the wetlands thing number two step is rfp We can work on that incorporate our ideas and get it out the door. Right. That's my Let's get feedback from from andy and or the the energy committee on the rfp before we We will yeah, we will but we can we can put that together Yeah, but jenus saying she's too busy and so it's got three I can reach out to got three to get some actual dimensions together. Yeah, and then we can put that together So I think we can do it. All right, so That's the town garage update. Did you have anything else jenna on that? I think there are some dimensions already in the draft of the rfp, but yeah Okay, yeah, I just wanted to make sure they were and I you're saying they are so that sounds good So the next item on our agenda is the july 2023 stored damage fema update. I see we've got some sheets in here With Basically giving you a copy of the damage inventory As it stands right now There are four specific locations that will be That will be required or they'll have a site inspection Um, I don't think the site inspection is going to happen this week I'm trying to get some clarity on with the our fema representative about that. I think it will be next week um I'm meeting with our fema representative tomorrow The kind of just to discuss next steps, but we went fema representative myself and guthrey Spent an hour plus going through the damage inventory and discussing all of this last week I have a question about how to interpret this. I think um, if I look at rows see Oh, the those aren't row numbers row letters if I look at the horn and the moon items, um, which are in the second third, sorry third fourth fifth Uh six White row Those are 90 to 95 complete. Um, could you explain what that means? That means they're 90 95 complete It means the majority of the work has been done in a lot of these cases all that is left to complete is the top layer Um, basically finishing off the road um I gotta tell you I live on horn and the moon road and I was going to take the opportunity if if it came up tonight to ask how much more work is intended to be done on horn and the moon because there are some Dicey places still and one place where the two cars cannot pass each other, you know, and so we were wondering if there was If it had been intentional that basically you just made it passable for now and you're planning to come back and finish it up Correct. Yeah, and that this is typical and speaking with the fema Is that that final kind of 10 percent? That's what that is. It's it's finishing off the top layer of the roads It's the majority of the damage has kind of been repaired And this is essentially finishing off And a lot of the delay in some of this is lack of material Yeah, there's one place where The guard rail was left hanging in mid-air and now the guard rail is gone. So that still has to be replaced I don't know if that's yeah, absolutely guard rail is another thing in that 10 percent I've got a question that's sort of on the topic, but um What I've heard from some other towns are doing with fema damage is they hire contractors But they don't pay them until the fema money comes in. I'm hoping that we're not doing that We have not hired any contractors That's why I thought but I don't think it's a good practice to make contractors wait for the money Especially I I don't think Guthrie nor I would be supportive of that that type of right, but I know what an adjacent town is That's every contractor's Waiting for money and they're not going to get paid until next week And you you you don't get paid until all of these that are 100 and it can take quite a while to get to the 100 Yeah, that there's a lot that still gets done in that in that 10 percent Oh, no, I'm not worried about that one little bit. I understand that completely I just thought that if we hired any outside contractors, I want to make sure they got paid Yeah, I don't want to know absolutely now we have Making people wait for six months to get paid What the heck And these contractors are going to go they're doing other jobs just so they can afford to keep going They couldn't even finish the job to the town because town never paid them That's what's going on right now. So it sounds like we're on a better trajectory. So I'm happy with that We didn't hire anybody anyway. We're just doing town employees are going to get reimbursed The town's going to get reimbursed for the money that we bought funded for the what we've done Yeah, this is normal Right, but making people wait for the money for six months with the 90 percent No, no, I know that. Yeah All right So is there any other with a lot of these percentages You're also looking at the percent complete is also kind of based on cost as well How much more do you have to spend? And when you've already put a significant amount of material and roads the material that is left including things like guardrails Is not a significant amount of the of the funds yet to be spent I'm not concerned about that We completed these percentages in discussion with the FEMA representative with Guthrie walking him through and in fact I was pulling out my phone and the computer and showing him pictures of some of these roads and discussing what had been done So a lot of these were percentages were completed based on guidance with our film representative Well, thank you for doing all that work because I know it's been a tremendous amount of work that was added onto your plate So, you know the difference between the b and the c category b is the emergency work or temporary fix work And then c is more of the kind of long term Yeah Thank you. It's pretty impressive on on the FEMA crew. Yeah, I attend the meeting. There's there was Pat Yeah, they they they're serious. They They document everything and they have a mitigation person and yeah, yeah, yeah, and two or three people that are field workers. It was I was impressed with FEMA It's Money looks like it's I mean you have to validate everything. Yeah. Yeah, I know Were they there to validate things only or were they there also to provide technical assistance? I think They were really there Answering questions to provide support FEMA doesn't technically provide any technical assistance from uh How do you repair the road? How do you I mean they're they're telling us what we need to have done and Guthrie's already been He's in regular communication with jaren board, which is our stream alteration engineer That we that works in our area Guthrie's had him out to a number of these sites already We just have to start getting all the the data to back up some of this And we we may have to engage chase and chase to actually put the pen to paper As it relates to meeting some of the requirements from FEMA with the hydrological studies and you know You name it of all of all the roads and the damage but But yeah, so Really the the people that were all in attendance. You had the site inspection team. You had some people that were dealing with environmental concerns Um, it's just kind of all the the pieces and parts in the boxes We will need to be checking through this process Good, thank you Okay in terms of uh of people getting paid for doing this work for us And the expense warrant that we'll be signing tonight. There's over 20 000 dollars of checks that we're cutting to people who have Provided services or goods to us in connection with FEMA work Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that all the contractors were getting paid if we hired many and we have not Yeah Luckily have not our road crew has been able to perform this work I think the only thing we did was we did rent an excavator for A period to help support them in the work But um, and that was all for horn of the moon by the way to um, but uh But that's uh, that's the only thing we have done other than getting material and having our road crew actually performing the work Okay, and some of these projects will probably Are going to take a while a while to complete because you're going to have to do hydraulic studies of the rivers and streams And and have size out box culverts and things like that that need to go in there And then they have to be constructed and put in place. So that's amazing. Well, it's only one There's only one place to center circle. I think so that's the only one that's not going to be fixed for you Center circle and Sodom pond will likely be the most complicated Sodom pond is going to be complicated because we don't yet know what historical Um implications may be on that stone culvert Um Sodom pond or excuse me sander circle jaren has already told us preliminarily Um, he believes that we'll need a 14 foot. I believe arch culvert um in that area Or for that and sander circle and Sodom pond will be too that we will likely hire contractors to perform that work And we didn't manage to blow out the stone culvert in in this storm Probably never will Yeah, probably never will no It's a good culvert Keep in mind that Sparrow or that uh, Sodom pond actually it is still there. So the culvert is there It's just the water went all around it Yeah, yeah, oh well Okay ridges like that too Okay, so thank you for the FEMA update um There isn't much left you want to discuss the Oh, how about town administrator report? We have the letter But I just want to get the town's sure administrator report out of the way Um, it's pretty it's pretty short and sweet. Um There was a curb cut that you all approved at the last meeting that set that's in that stack of stuff that Requires signatures. I kind of sticky noted everything. Um, put post-it notes on it to let you know what to do there But that curb cut permit just needs to be signed. It was already approved Um, I'm going to give you a zoning update at the next meeting Um And then the only other thing I had were the january meeting dates just to go ahead and get those nailed down Um, obviously the first monday of January is january 1st, which I don't know that we want to meet on new year's day So i'm proposing january 8th and january 22nd as dates for those meetings, so We don't necessarily have to decide on that tonight the board can check their schedules and we can go from there But just wanted to point that out Or you know december 31st instead of january 1st get it out of the way ahead of time Yeah I'll be here Um anything else, yeah No, that's it since we're meeting next week. Like I said my I expected a uh lengthier hearing for arpa. So I tried to keep the select board meeting Then Classy was difficult when i'm trying to schedule people like downstream You will be meeting with the funding request study committee next Meeting as well. It's difficult to schedule people when we have a hearing. Um, when I don't know Timing so yeah, exactly. Yeah, you don't know when we're going to get done Yep Okay So, um that took care of the town and ministry report. We still have warrants to sign a bunch of other stuff to sign We have the letter of support to look at for anabelle acres. Yep So this letter So this is the one This isn't the one that you signed So I can give the background So eric and olivia anderson owned andabelle acres on horn and the moon road and jacob's road And i'm not jacob. So standard circle And they are applying for a regional economic development grant To expand their farm and offerings to the construction of a new seedling house and workshop space And they would like a letter of support from the town I was contacted Last week by them They were putting in their grant application today And they weren't certain at the time whether They could afford to wait on the letter of support until after we had time to address it at the meeting here so I offered to Work with sef and get a letter to them today signed by Him and me as individuals not on behalf of the town But noting that we were select board chair and vice chair, but we're not doing that on behalf of the town And um told them that we would consider this at the meeting tonight So in case it helps their application to get in something tomorrow Signed by the select board on behalf of the town that we can get it to them and it simply says that Signed by south gardener in this draft. We're supporting andabelle acres application They are active members of the community here through past membership on the local school board Allowing their unused fields to be hayed by a local organic dairy operation And offering the community opportunities to enjoy their land They have shown a commitment to bring the beauty of their farmland and flowers to the community through a variety of workshop Sons that pick mix and pick your own And we we support their efforts So, uh, if it's all right with you all them will authorize sef to decide Yeah, so I just made sure that when carl sent the letter in The original first letter the first letter first letter that he clarified That he we weren't doing on behalf of slight board. I mean Is this a procedural thing and I'm sure everyone would support the letter But I want to be clear that we weren't doing it. We shouldn't endorse it as What's that? I agree. No, we no we can't We can but it wasn't brought to the whole board. It's not so we signed it. We three signed it just from us And I just wanted to make sure that carl notified everyone That it was just from us. Yeah, yeah, but this is like does two people Speak on behalf of the whole flock. Yeah, so that that was it So does anyone want to look at that said authorize Seth to sign this one, which is on behalf of the town, right? So there's two separate letters Yeah, parallel to the separate letters. Exactly. We just want to get something in to help the people out Before the deadline. Okay, and but we want to make sure this was part of the file Which is supportive of all So I didn't make copies of this the do you want to see this? Yeah And zoe, I don't know Yeah, right Zoey, are you okay with hearing the letter read aloud as I did? Yeah, yeah, okay Yeah Okay, so I moved to authorize the chair to sign the letter of support for anterbell acres As drafted on behalf of the select force And when you're second, I'll second you will any further discussion. No, all those in favor, please say aye. All right. All right Okay Um, now we have warrants And I think that's it and we have to sign all these things Okay, so I was just doing that Now this Okay, how about the warrants? Let's get this going On on the January meeting dates. Can we just by the way just to authorize Gina to add the revised dates the 8th and the 22nd to our calendar Just by consensus any objections? No, that's fine with me. I mean that might work out better. Yeah, true. Yeah Uh This is why I'm for the sign the word What's that I can sign them after we should let everybody go. Well, that's a good point. Yeah, that's true close the meeting but Yeah, and then we do we have to sign the warrants and this thing we have to sign this errors and I'm Why don't we leave the meeting open because sometimes when people look over them the warrants They have questions. Oh, that's the expenditure for okay. I'm signing now. We're going to sign it. Sure. Yeah But there's a bunch of this is three places to sign What? I'm only saying that's what it says right there. Yeah We're more than six So we can sign it tomorrow I told you, you know, try to watch your back. Oh, we sign it on the back side On the back, yeah, no, this doesn't say town clerk This is signature select board. Oh, right there right there. Perfect. Okay. This is advanced select board in here Where do we sign this darn document? Three places. That's all I can that's all I saw This is what happens when the town administrator's not in the room. That's true Even though she's breathing down our backs right over there Even on the television screen, even though she clearly commented or clearly noted where to sign Oh And just to let you know Go ahead If you didn't see it on front porch forum Michelle Rosie and patricia are all at the town clerk town treasurer conference for the next couple days So the front office is actually closed So obviously I will be there and listers will be there and the note on the door will state that You can go to the back door to to get to us, but um the front door will be will be locked I hope you're feeling well enough to To come in I'm kind of glad to be in there alone. So I'll do without a mask. I have not tested yet tonight But I am as soon as this ends to make sure to check it. I am feeling better. Just still not a hundred percent I wanted to say I'd like to borrow the copy of uh the town's copy of robert's rules of order until next meeting. Is that okay with you? Remember, there's a No, I could kill us. I don't have an ego. Okay, so Remember the um Curve cut has to be signed. I found it. Yeah I think everything did you sign it? The curb cut I already signed the curve. I'll just pass it back to me because I haven't signed it He's like this. So that's the curve that's been up. Yeah in three places on the On the other Sign it. I haven't signed it yet, but he doesn't want it back I was looking for sass I'm tired out now Someone's my bedtime Oh three documents to be signed. Okay, this is one. Oh, no. Wee wee. Oh, no. Wee wee. That's french Deb, this is how they are I'm gonna say I feel like they should have to hold up their signature on the you know So I can see it in the camera before I before I log off You are signing the back of the arrow to mission form. Yes. Yes. Yeah, we've already signed that Yes, I'm looking for where to sign this Barlow letter whatever the hell it is I guess is Okay, that's signed this is Curb cut is signed but you have to sign this one I signed that And the warrants I signed Oh, this is a good copy. That's much just be a copy right because we've already signed this Yeah, this is a good copy. Yeah So three documents to be signed. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think you could sign Oh, okay This one gets paper clip together Yeah, okay before we turn if you sign that one white white paper clip it together, too I One question. What about the e charger out here? Did we we were going to do something with that? We never did right? The charger. Yeah. Yeah, that's That's on me Then I need to contact the electrician again. He hasn't gotten back to me And I thought there was some deal we were working out with wash electric Uh, that it's ours So yeah, but they were going to do the install or something. No It's up to us That's wet What's that wait a minute what statistic are you talking about the the um chargers out there that they're not very No, those don't work. Yeah. That's why we we wanted to replace it with a uh, I've done one They don't work at all. You know, it's funny. I've looked at some different places But they've had those charges as you can see where people beat on them. I think because Killing it the Tesla one we can't talk about that after the meeting. Yeah, we we no we can't Business This is other business Anyway, I just wanted to know I see the same one over there. Nobody using it. Yeah, just so Yeah, I don't want to let your car. Yeah We probably be going somewhere else. Yeah, probably sitting at home and charging Okay, I move we adjourn You know what I'll second that We don't wait. We have to talk about it. Yeah, let's just