 to put some holes everything which is forbidden offline is forbidden online to put some holes to make sure that everything which is forbidden offline is forbidden online and everything which is accepted offline is accepted online sentence simple words not easy to do but mandatory to do they want to organize this space to make sure that competition will allow everyone to be able to innovate and to expand themselves that has become a wealth driver yeah that's one of the big things and you know so we are talking about regulating data a lot privacy and so on so that's so digitization which has been with us for much longer is not really the new thing no kid on the lot it's the it's the value of data and the concern about the privacy of data and so on so that's what we are talking about when you regulate somehow you give the people you know some keys about what should happen and what shouldn't happen you give them the rules and so when they see that there is a rule but there is regulation they are wondering why it's happening and then you know it's going to follow by having people saying okay if there is regulation is because you know there is something I shouldn't do and they're going to ask for this thing that was in regulation so actually the reverse way it's going to come from the people at the end of the day bank is saying Europe is late and the commissioner is saying Europe is doing things that needs to do more what do you think are the priorities you know for European innovation especially in the tech world we have an incredible amount of very interesting things to do next so so we need a you know a frame to do it but once we have the frame I really believe that in France in particular because you see what I can talk about we have a lot of very very interesting things to do at the initial level we didn't dare maybe you know not enough but if I take the case of Renault I mean I really really believe that we can transform Renault as a real digital company right I mean today obviously you know cars it's it's meat all right but but I really believe we can because there is a lot a lot of data that can be that can be coming from those cars from the people using the cars and from all that data is a totally different animal to regulate than you know a traditional because it's a non-rival good as we call it it's you know who should only you know can be put we can't even put you know quantity constraints on data because data the value of data has to do with how it's used and it can be duplicated and so on so it's a it's a totally different world at least for an economy is to be looking at that my concern is that when you don't when you are entering this totally new business you have to be flexible and I don't see the way the way you see it Mr. Breton that that somehow the system in Europe is very flexible it has taken a long time to get there for obvious reasons I'm not criticizing because Europe Europe is a collection of countries it's not like United States or China single countries so there are a lot more challenges in Europe. I have a very optimistic view again you know for the French for the French technology they are because I mean frankly today and tomorrow AI is just about mathematics right and we are one of the best people best you know country in mathematics in general we can count that with the middle the field middles you know that we are getting but anyway so I really believe that our engineers and we talked about education before you know and we said that it's not very good but I don't know but I mean what I see actually is that it's pretty good all the engineers that I see you know coming to my way or that I'm hiring you know in both sides of the the Atlantic and when there are French engineers I see that they are very good so I really believe that our education system produces some very good people to do specifically AI. I've been working quite a bit on the DMA and trying to understand you know what's behind it and the theory behind the DMA and so on and it's clear that the DMA has got some very good components and has got some aspects now which I find a little bit more iffy and whether or not it's and very lots it's going to depend on the implementation okay so I think we you know so we are speaking about the regulation of platforms in particular I think Europe has set up some regulatory framework but regulatory framework live I mean they are not just rules they have to be managed and so on and I think that lots of what's going to happen in the next 10 years is going to depend on the way in which we we manage those those regulations and that's going to be a really interesting right to follow.